That's a term I never use but it felt so proper in this situation so I left pretty much the same comment, Blade is a real one and then scrolled down to see the exact same term already used. Must be true then.
Funny enough it actually happened occasionally last time Liliana of the Veil was in standard too. Back then with Zealous Conscripts since they both released in the same block.
Ahhh...dopplegang. always the best. For future against the odds, can i push on delmy-balloonman tokens? Feel like you might scratch the panharmonicon itch paying one to make 80 rabbits.
This video is evidence we need Back to Nature in standard. Imagine you pop off and do the thing, pass the turn, and the opponent untaps and blows up all the enchantments on board. Good luck recovering from that
Seth, please. I was already having too much fun using Doppelgang to play my opponents’ decks, this ramps it up so much I might spend all my time playing it.
Buried in the Garden seems like a nice addition. Saw it in another Standard Bant Control list that also wanted to copy stuff. Ramp and removal. I wonder how Three Blind Mice would fare as well. It can certainly present lethal or stabilize in no time once you get a copying spell. Invasion of Arcavios can tutor from GY, deck, or sidedeck, and can also be copied.
I don't know if it's possible but a super duper flawless victory with your opponent having no permanents, no cards in hand, and no cards in library would be historic levels of trolling and probably make Arena history. That might require a paid actor though lol
Amusingly, I believe there is a deck designed to do that to *itself*, to pass on nothing, or almost nothing except a single Tormod's Crypt in the graveyard, having not just put everything into their graveyard, but exiled it all, themselves, there's even turn 1 versions using stuff like Dark Ritual and Demonic Consultation/Spoils of the Vault to name a card that isn't in the deck to exile the entire deck on the spot.
Second game against Blade, could have confiscated the Overlord of the Hauntwoods (the one with only 1 counter left). Take extra damage from Hare Apparent but block one of the others, then attack next turn to gain an Everywhere (so you get the land while still mitigating some damage) before using Sunfall. Hell, the turn after that you should have Doppel x=2 for Overlord (which enters as a creature, even if you copy the non-creature version), and you present lethal (as you have Get Lost for their Overlord that's about to turn). They did end up being great content plays at least.
I had a deck running Confiscate, Annex, and Copy Enchantment in original Ravnica standard. Simic with enchantress cards and Thran Golem, no interaction other than Confiscate and Annex though. Other cards: Utopia Sprawl, Silhana Ledgewalker, One With Nature, Shielding Plax and Privileged Position. It was a budget deck running all basics because I was young and broke. I think I took it to one LGS standard night and got demolished. Still love the deck to this day though.
Woah; more than Confiscating the opponent's stuff, I think the real highlight this week is just how damn powerful it is if you can get a token copy of Caretaker's Talent! 1 mana draw a card repeatably after getting the first; then 1 mana draw a bunch of cards on subsequent turns. Crazy!
Mirror room/Fractured Realm *really* makes this deck go beyond craziness, but you have to go low on the payoffs or the dreaded greg error will say *NOPE* to you pretty fast.
Hi Seth, great video. Just one thing, I get the impression from the way you played that you think Dopplegang cannot target the same permanent more than once. It can :) maybe I read you wrong, but I thought I would put this out there
I’m not so sure about that. The rules say “115.3. The same target can’t be chosen multiple times for any one instance of the word “target” on a spell or ability.” and Doppelgang only uses the t-word once.
Panharmonicon and Dopplegang may be mechanically pretty different, but there's some sort of...I don't know, shared essence between the two, and it makes sense that Seth loves both of them.
At 13:39 making all bats instead of two lizards saves you for at least a turn through the cut down, then you can use confiscate and you might have been in that game
I think hare apparent is a great any number card if the strat is go wide but I would argue slime against humanity is pretty good for the protection from graveyard hate and still being able to scale as you cast them.
You've gotta try Mossborn hydra scapeshift with the lands that instantly sack themselves upon entering. Nothing feels better than hitting your opponent for a quarter of a million trample damage. Note: I did use Kami of whispered hopes with bristly bill to double the counters on my creatures like 17 times.
I probably shouldn't make fun of Seth when he's sick, but uh.... gonna do it anyways! 6:11 "Pick of the Senotay Hearth. Or is it Heath? Senotay Heath!" Oh Seth 😂 'Creosote' (pronounced kree - uh - sowt) is the black residue in chimneys that is leftover byproduct of woodfires.
I think he was misreading it as cenote, which is pronounced something like se-no-tay, and is a word in a different card name (Cenote Scout) so I can understand why you might mix them up if you’re not looking too closely.
on top of them sitting through getting flawless'd. Hare Apparent gave me ideas for a deck with Enduring Vitality and Virtue of Loyalty. big shout outs to Blade
Confiscating an ultimate Liliana after Doppelganging four copies of their Resplendent Angel is maybe the most brutally demoralizing turn I have ever seen.
Video #4 of asking Seth to brew & post *Kaito Tribal* - hope it happens next week! Also, yes Seth; Double trouble when two *Tinybones* show up. Started testing the brew last Thursday. It's.....promissing...
My unpopular opinion is that, if there’s this much ramp available, they need to bring back land destruction. Maybe it’s just “destroy target land if 2 or more lands entered under that opponent’s control”
8:40 misplay. Should have doppelganger haunt wood, the double land and confiscate. Steal his 3 untapped lands. Generate 3 everything lands and 3 double lands for 12 total mana generated for 11 mana spent. Then doppel gain again for 3 stealing the entire rest of his deck :) gg
Did you know that Valgavoth plus fall of Thran lets you prevent your opponent getting their lands back while also getting to play their lands over time? Ofc, using val as a combo piece rather than just... winning with it is kinda silly.
Spoiler warning I think on the turn that your blocked with the stolen Hare Apparent I would've taken the hit and doppelganged the Overlord and Hare Apparent to make 12 more blockers rather than go for the board wipe. Maybe it's greedy, but I see more upside and more fun to that play imo
Shoutout to blade for not scooping, that was amazing to watch!
Yeah, Blade is the real hero this week.
@@MTGGoldfish no lanawar elf or glimpls for ramp faster?
@patrickpersianni5314 what would you cut for it tho?
I need to find someone that loves me as much as Seth loves Dopplegang. 🤣
Came here to make a joke about asking what happens to seth when dopplegang rotates
I wonder if panharmonicon is feeling worried yet
@@LoonerFlightSeths going to use a dopplegang on a panharmonicon one of these days, it’s his destiny
We all do....
That's not possible 😂
Blade is such a real one for not scooping and quitting. If anyone has a reason to do it, its blade.
That's a term I never use but it felt so proper in this situation so I left pretty much the same comment, Blade is a real one and then scrolled down to see the exact same term already used. Must be true then.
Blade the real MVP
stealing and ultimating someones Lili at them is hella disrespect and im here for it. thats some Crim level petty right there, Seth
Funny enough it actually happened occasionally last time Liliana of the Veil was in standard too. Back then with Zealous Conscripts since they both released in the same block.
My man is addicted to finding ways to get Flawless Victories
This might be my favorite one since we get to keep all the permanents rather than just blowing them up.
Blade was an OG for letting that play out. Good sport.
That paradise may be unreachable for me. Savor it in my place! - Blade
4:08 "Bear with me" is he really? You never show him in videos, we deserve more Bear.
Dude, I thought the same 😂thing
Leveling up the Caretakers talent to copy it and draw was pretty genius. Ive never would have thought of that
Oh man. Seth... You shouldn't have said Kellan tribal could be a thing. Now you've GOT to try it.
You made this? No, no. Seth made this.
Confiscate on lands, also known as a "Louisiana Purchase"
Thank you Blade 🙏
Confinscate? Oh Seth....Seth Seth Seth, master of the mispronunciations. I love ya Brother.
Hey Stone Rain!
@MTGGoldfish I hope you are feeling better Brother.
That Selesnya token deck gave me an idea:
Can you make a transformative sideboard with just 15 Hare Apparents?
I was kind of assuming that's what he did.
Creosote Heath? No. Senotee Heath!
That has to be top 5 of his worst pronunciations ever.
That caretakers tech was monster value
4:07 I'd hope Bear is still with you. Also hope you're feeling better too.
Seth, my man, I need you to do this forever please, never stop uploading!
A classic against the odds archetype
This is one of the best deck names ever made and it's not close.
agreed
Ahhh...dopplegang. always the best.
For future against the odds, can i push on delmy-balloonman tokens? Feel like you might scratch the panharmonicon itch paying one to make 80 rabbits.
your deck ideas are so entertaining all the time 🎉
Every day Seth plays Doppelgang is a good day.
4:16 "Marauding Bright Pliest" 🤣
"Confinscate"
This video is evidence we need Back to Nature in standard. Imagine you pop off and do the thing, pass the turn, and the opponent untaps and blows up all the enchantments on board. Good luck recovering from that
I see Spelunking and Doppelgang, I smash Like.
Doppelgang is just the gift that keeps on giving
Big fan of your decks with Spelunking + Doppelgang! Crafted your Hedge Shredder and Fecund decks, definitely gonna craft & play this one too! Thanks!
Seth, please. I was already having too much fun using Doppelgang to play my opponents’ decks, this ramps it up so much I might spend all my time playing it.
Stealing that and ulting might be one of the best plays I've seen of against the odds!!! That game was wild😁😁😁😁
Damn I love the card Doppelgang!
My most viewed videos from the channel are with this card^^
Blade is a real one, letting people have their fun and do their thing when you know you lost is dope.
Amazing video, this is really classic ato material
Buried in the Garden seems like a nice addition. Saw it in another Standard Bant Control list that also wanted to copy stuff. Ramp and removal.
I wonder how Three Blind Mice would fare as well. It can certainly present lethal or stabilize in no time once you get a copying spell.
Invasion of Arcavios can tutor from GY, deck, or sidedeck, and can also be copied.
I don't know if it's possible but a super duper flawless victory with your opponent having no permanents, no cards in hand, and no cards in library would be historic levels of trolling and probably make Arena history. That might require a paid actor though lol
Amusingly, I believe there is a deck designed to do that to *itself*, to pass on nothing, or almost nothing except a single Tormod's Crypt in the graveyard, having not just put everything into their graveyard, but exiled it all, themselves, there's even turn 1 versions using stuff like Dark Ritual and Demonic Consultation/Spoils of the Vault to name a card that isn't in the deck to exile the entire deck on the spot.
Second game against Blade, could have confiscated the Overlord of the Hauntwoods (the one with only 1 counter left). Take extra damage from Hare Apparent but block one of the others, then attack next turn to gain an Everywhere (so you get the land while still mitigating some damage) before using Sunfall.
Hell, the turn after that you should have Doppel x=2 for Overlord (which enters as a creature, even if you copy the non-creature version), and you present lethal (as you have Get Lost for their Overlord that's about to turn).
They did end up being great content plays at least.
I had a deck running Confiscate, Annex, and Copy Enchantment in original Ravnica standard. Simic with enchantress cards and Thran Golem, no interaction other than Confiscate and Annex though. Other cards: Utopia Sprawl, Silhana Ledgewalker, One With Nature, Shielding Plax and Privileged Position. It was a budget deck running all basics because I was young and broke. I think I took it to one LGS standard night and got demolished. Still love the deck to this day though.
@22:05 why not play the plains instead of the forest? I'm seriously confused as to why you wouldn't want to leave the option open for Get Lost.
The scooping is very understandable haha
Woah; more than Confiscating the opponent's stuff, I think the real highlight this week is just how damn powerful it is if you can get a token copy of Caretaker's Talent! 1 mana draw a card repeatably after getting the first; then 1 mana draw a bunch of cards on subsequent turns. Crazy!
I was waiting for Extravagant Replication to do something really silly! :D
Mirror room/Fractured Realm *really* makes this deck go beyond craziness, but you have to go low on the payoffs or the dreaded greg error will say *NOPE* to you pretty fast.
Hi Seth, great video. Just one thing, I get the impression from the way you played that you think Dopplegang cannot target the same permanent more than once. It can :) maybe I read you wrong, but I thought I would put this out there
I’m not so sure about that. The rules say “115.3. The same target can’t be chosen multiple times for any one instance of the word “target” on a spell or ability.” and Doppelgang only uses the t-word once.
Panharmonicon and Dopplegang may be mechanically pretty different, but there's some sort of...I don't know, shared essence between the two, and it makes sense that Seth loves both of them.
You asked on stream yesterday 'what instant or sorcery do you guys think represents me?' and i think at this point is HAS to be Doppelgang.
Very entertaining content Seth
49:00 that was epic af
At 13:39 making all bats instead of two lizards saves you for at least a turn through the cut down, then you can use confiscate and you might have been in that game
I think hare apparent is a great any number card if the strat is go wide but I would argue slime against humanity is pretty good for the protection from graveyard hate and still being able to scale as you cast them.
"That's fine we have a backup doppelgang" LMAO
I'm surprised this deck didn't include Doubling Season... Which is now standard legal >:D
I would love to see this in the mirror match. Everyone just confiscating each other's stuff back and forth every turn til someone mills out.
You've gotta try Mossborn hydra scapeshift with the lands that instantly sack themselves upon entering. Nothing feels better than hitting your opponent for a quarter of a million trample damage.
Note: I did use Kami of whispered hopes with bristly bill to double the counters on my creatures like 17 times.
I probably shouldn't make fun of Seth when he's sick, but uh.... gonna do it anyways!
6:11 "Pick of the Senotay Hearth. Or is it Heath? Senotay Heath!"
Oh Seth 😂
'Creosote' (pronounced kree - uh - sowt) is the black residue in chimneys that is leftover byproduct of woodfires.
I think in this case it's referring to the Creosote bush, actually
I think he was misreading it as cenote, which is pronounced something like se-no-tay, and is a word in a different card name (Cenote Scout) so I can understand why you might mix them up if you’re not looking too closely.
@@ConManAU lol that makes a bit more sense, thanks for the info :)
OMG confiscate! This was my favorite card back in Seventh Edition when I started playing.
Great Dack Fayden deck!
This was sweet. Now do this in a format with Teferi, Time Raveler so you can do it at instant speed.
There's a faerie in Foundations that let you do everything at instant speed too.
Blade was such a real one there 😂
Seth plays the sickest piles. literally
If Seth had three ping deserts in play versus Blade (not going back to look), the first Doppelgang could have been lethal
on top of them sitting through getting flawless'd. Hare Apparent gave me ideas for a deck with Enduring Vitality and Virtue of Loyalty. big shout outs to Blade
This is pretty damn fun!
Find someone who loves you as much as Seth loves Blood Moon and Doppelgang
Can you imagine if one of your doppelgang tokens targeted a hare apparent.
“Eminent Domain” is such a good name
I love a bit of "confinscate".
Confiscating an ultimate Liliana after Doppelganging four copies of their Resplendent Angel is maybe the most brutally demoralizing turn I have ever seen.
“Hehe, they scooped!” -Said by man who then scoops twice in a row.
9:29 lol opp highlighting his 5 permanents and then your ~30
Video #4 of asking Seth to brew & post *Kaito Tribal* - hope it happens next week!
Also, yes Seth; Double trouble when two *Tinybones* show up. Started testing the brew last Thursday. It's.....promissing...
The party approves of your red deck, comrade
My unpopular opinion is that, if there’s this much ramp available, they need to bring back land destruction. Maybe it’s just “destroy target land if 2 or more lands entered under that opponent’s control”
Cool deck - must have a decent 15% winrate 😂
I hate playing against theft decks, but I have to admit it's funny as hell to watch them happen to other people.
welp the one time you played modern this year was cool
Yes! More flawless victories!!
New Eminent Domain!!!
"Welcome to the team!"
Oh my, i love this so much
8:40 misplay. Should have doppelganger haunt wood, the double land and confiscate. Steal his 3 untapped lands. Generate 3 everything lands and 3 double lands for 12 total mana generated for 11 mana spent. Then doppel gain again for 3 stealing the entire rest of his deck :) gg
The fact the new TB can cast cards from previously played TB makes playing not a liability really.
that was glorious.
god I love Seth's mind
Blade is the real hero of this video.
I immediately think of DOPPLEGANG, and I were right!! 😂
Did you know that Valgavoth plus fall of Thran lets you prevent your opponent getting their lands back while also getting to play their lands over time? Ofc, using val as a combo piece rather than just... winning with it is kinda silly.
Yay, foundations makes it even harder to play in paper!
Someone needs to buy Blade a beer.
hey is the thousand years storm deck being posted? could you include the match with my 5 color jank deck? :D
"Creosote" ❌
"Sa'nodé" ✅
P 52:17 could you do a five-color any number of cards deck at some point
Get in, guys! We're playing commander in standard!
We did it, we broke dopplegang
28:35 Ah yes, classic Arena visual bugs...
Seth, it was hard watching in your game against the angel deck when you were so low on life and didn't use or copy the food you had on board at all.
Name in Eminem's Domain. You're so close.
Blade is a true homie
Shoutout to Herald of Leshrac
Spoiler warning
I think on the turn that your blocked with the stolen Hare Apparent I would've taken the hit and doppelganged the Overlord and Hare Apparent to make 12 more blockers rather than go for the board wipe. Maybe it's greedy, but I see more upside and more fun to that play imo