Math gets confused about why dudes don’t like him when he has used his platform to gossip or talk about other battlers like surf, roc, hitman, dna and more. There are multiple blogs of him talking shit about guys and gets in his feelings as soon as his name is brought up. Don’t even bring up how he hasn’t been nearly as active as other top tiers and in his most recent battle geechi whooped him. He came in that space immediately talking about ‘daddy issues’ and ‘bitches’ and then turn around and asked surf ‘why do you hate me?’ wtf
The only people Math has talked about were the people who didnt want to battle him... Math simply wants to battle them for the sake of a battle, regardless of who makes more, who's more popular. None of that matters when you come from Math's era. Math says he can beat someone and issues a challenge and they reject the battle because hes not as popular... is lame asf.
But Surf started all that shit first. Math at first only talked about battling and that was it. It was Surf taking it out of the way (in typical fashion) by trying to trash on the man's career.
The energy in this space is anger and hate. “You new niggas need to bow down to us” Meanwhile in Surfs space it’s a lot of “We could all push this forward is we move together” Shit sorry as hell on this side , I’m out
Shout out to Math I love his show. He has great guests. Even if u don’t like Math check it out for the guests. I learned a lot about NY Hip Hop History
bro surf say these nigga names a lot and y’all act like y’all don’t hear it he downplay they names in battle rap all day everyday and y’all claim they talk about him all day com on dawg stop
Surf has not said verbs name since like two weeks ago when they were going back and forth he’s tryna push something for the culture and surf has not said math name at all even when math got in his face all those months ago ur buggin
@@jerrellclarke4508 Surf is a finesser. Pushing the culture? How? By acting like it's his idea to do midnight madness? You're dumb if you think Smack ain't involved and isn't getting any money from it.
@@jerrellclarke4508 I fuck wit surf heavy but you definitely cap. I just heard the nigga say verb name last week. Now I ain’t heard him say math name tho.
In Surf space it be a total of about 500 people about 450 are men riding Surf cotail muting speakers hehe and haha everything Surf say not letting people respond to questions ect. But people start they own space to talk they peace without interruptions and the extra stuff it becomes a sausage party? So my question how do u feel about Surf spaces!!?...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔✌️
Ur obviously bias surf is not the only one who mutes and kicks people twork does it and hustle and greedy and polo and auntie it’s clearly u don’t know what ur talking about
@@JokerMerciless13 doesn't matter if I knew or not. It happened and it was some girl shit. Mind you I like surf as well but you gotta call a spade a spade.
It's only because it's Math that people disagree with or hate this. Let it had been Surf saying the same thing these guys are saying word for word it would be praise in the comment session!!!🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣✌️
I agree with the point of you become what you continue to think about. I just think it looks like you become like the company you keep because its very easy to take on the ideology of those around you.
Math gotta hold himself accountable he be hating on these dudes cause he not praise like them I watched him bash Roc Hitman etc on his podcast for no reason
Verb always pick one target and go on a rampage about him for weeks on end we have seen it since he battles hitman literally verb need to do something to push the culture forward whatever he’s doing with yoshi is cool but he literally has not done nothing for the culture that benifits anyone else besides battle
What other rapper has done this? Most just start their own leagues. And jumps on url when their league starts falling off. Cut it out. Verb gave us all the Saint Louis people. He's done enough. If he chooses to do more that's his decision. Go back to Surf spaces and ride that wave that never existed. 😴
You do know verb is "one of" the first battle rappers to have his own league right??? Lux had lionz den, verb had Word War. Owe is Street Status. Surf finally starts a league, and now he's pushing the culture forward?😂 Verbs league brought STL into battle rap, then came the Midwest Movement, this nigga spearheaded one of the biggest movement that help get the culture to where it is now.
I just don't get all the hate directed at Surf. Like why can't he have his time to shine? Maybe at one time he didn't have his skills as sharp as they should be but right now he's on his A game. His day will come and go and then someone else will have their moment. Verb and Math just sound jealous of Surf.
@@bigdangerous5044 i don't hate no battler. I don't know these niggaz personally. Still waiting for that answer tho. If he BODIED Ice, you should at least remember a few lines. I ain't asking for all 3 rounds
@@heisenberg2966 You said that like 40 is trash or something. 40 will beat 💩 down Verb's leg. 40's pen is crazy. Plus, Surf CLEARLY didn't care about that battle. PLUS, the app has him winning lol.
@@GodOfDestructionVegeta27 You are making my point! For Surf is constantly calling other Battle Rappers “ Trash “, when he has been the one DISRESPECTING BATTLE RAP, by not taking Battles/ Some Opponents seriously, only writing and giving 2 Rounds, and Criticizing URL/Caffeine, when things DON’T GO THE WAY HE THINKS THEY SHOULD GO! I think TSU SURF is a Talented and Entertaining Person, that has DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH! Certainly Aye Verb and Math Hoffa might not be as Popular as Surf, but you can never claim that those two DISRESPECT THE CULTURE LIKE SURF DOES!
This is my thing my expert opinion is amazing but math it’s turned into a industry podcast and a history of the industry which I have no problem with at all yall touch on battle rap slightly here and there push the damn issue of battle rap on the people u have sitting infront of u and make the general convo about battle rap
Well that's the fans fault. Any time math calls out goodz, surf, roc etc... y'all say math is ice cold right now, he just fishing for a battle when he isn't even relevant. So he steps away from it, a steers his show in a different direction, and now y'all saying he has to talk about battle rap. Let me get this straight, y'all can tell him y'all don't want to see him battle (how he makes money), but then tell him he HAS to bring up battle rap on his show???🤔
@@ks_wallace2324 I fully agree ... the battles that are big good battles for math everyone saying no one wants to see math and then want him to push battle rap on his show he created on his own ... and use it to push the same platform that doesn't want to see him lol ... yeah sure even when he did his battles with the legends people hated that was him pushing battle rap in his own way with battling meth, Nicki Jams, etc so after seeing how they treated him why would he want to push battle rap for
@@14Krazh14 Ong!!! Fans be weird bro. Y'all can't downplay math everytime he wants to battle, then tell him you should push the issue of battle rap on his guest. Why should he have industry people on HIS show and bring up battle rap when battle rap acts like they hate him. Nigga I ain't supporting a culture that don't even fuck with me😂
Why???? The world is way bigger than battle rap. And battle rap dont support him, hes reaching different countries and regions with his content. Hes just growing.
Verb wants to be the man so bad but just chill brova. U made your mark but you can’t force people to fux with you. And if u didn’t want people to fux with you, u wouldn’t be in these spaces talking like you do Daily.
@@ballsdeep6548 lol when it comes to battle rap Math needs to 🤫. 30’d by T-Top, 30’d by Showoff, 30’d by Ave, 30’d by Calicoe , 30’d by Bigg K…chill Math 😂😂😂😂
You lying nigga!!!! Math beat Geechi...which is why they didn't drop it yet on RUclips. He beat Big K, lost to T Top even though he had better bars, just stumbled a lot....Beat Verb and lost to Calicoe....Killed Hollow, Dose, Suge, Hitman Holla, Dizaster, Pat Stay, ILL Will, Snake Eyez, and Real Deal. He beat Charlie Clips also. And Tha Saurus, has a debatable with Serous Jones. He's a legend in this shit. Let's not forget T Rex and Iron Soloman also. He is one of the fathers of URL....
Surf be hating to but I know why he finally respected before he went to jail he wasn’t nothing or in nobody top five he trying to keep the ones that a smoke him out the game like MOOK but he can’t back in the days he couldn’t fuck nobody he was bottom tier now he not that just the truth all battle rapper hate they hate in the bars they say
The only thing Math and verb have is common is they hate Surf. This is like when two women don’t like another woman and end up bonding because of it
Verb was on math show 2 years ago stupid
@@woke49 Goodz was on Math show too so what that mean?
LMFAO
@@appreciatelife1009 they use to fuck with each other back than duh that was stupid af to say
Ok, so now what? Was there a point to make
Verb is hilarious and he's right regarding if he would've gotten caught in that situation it would've been over but others get a pass..
They was acting like nah we wouldn’t do you like that
Shiddddddd niggas wouldn’t give Verb no benefit of the doubt
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Verb : "Smack wants to replace us...But yall aint shit!!!!" 🤣
Verb got me 😂my ass off from screamin in the background towards the end.
It’s like when some scorned baby mother’s group up and start hating on that baby father who only doing his new girl right
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Math and verb is the baby mothers lmaooo they both hate surf
Greatly put 😂
But these two grown MEN talking shit about another grown MAN...don't deflect this fuckery onto women.
@@antra21 yo babyfather dissin you too huh ?
Math gets confused about why dudes don’t like him when he has used his platform to gossip or talk about other battlers like surf, roc, hitman, dna and more. There are multiple blogs of him talking shit about guys and gets in his feelings as soon as his name is brought up. Don’t even bring up how he hasn’t been nearly as active as other top tiers and in his most recent battle geechi whooped him. He came in that space immediately talking about ‘daddy issues’ and ‘bitches’ and then turn around and asked surf ‘why do you hate me?’ wtf
The only people Math has talked about were the people who didnt want to battle him... Math simply wants to battle them for the sake of a battle, regardless of who makes more, who's more popular. None of that matters when you come from Math's era. Math says he can beat someone and issues a challenge and they reject the battle because hes not as popular... is lame asf.
Geechi didn't whoop Math. Stop cappin. That sh*t was debatable. These dudes been ducking Math for years.
But Surf started all that shit first. Math at first only talked about battling and that was it. It was Surf taking it out of the way (in typical fashion) by trying to trash on the man's career.
@@xXOriginalSin just cause people don’t want to battle math don’t mean they lame, maybe they don’t have the motivation to write three rounds for math
You lying😂 surf muted and belittled math for 30 minutes before math said you must have daddy issues.
The energy in this space is anger and hate. “You new niggas need to bow down to us”
Meanwhile in Surfs space it’s a lot of “We could all push this forward is we move together”
Shit sorry as hell on this side , I’m out
That's real shit homie 💯
realest comment made!
Facts
I am glad there is some intelligent minds out here and not stuck on the Island. Respect
Old hating niggas
Shout out to Math I love his show. He has great guests. Even if u don’t like Math check it out for the guests. I learned a lot about NY Hip Hop History
You’re not American
@@bigdangerous5044
U aren’t either😅
@@BlackConnection337 Yeah I know I’m a BlacKman in Amerikkka , That didn’t need math’s show to learn about NY hip hop
@@bigdangerous5044
Cool I did
Facts that shit is fire
bro surf say these nigga names a lot and y’all act like y’all don’t hear it he downplay they names in battle rap all day everyday and y’all claim they talk about him all day com on dawg stop
Surf has not said verbs name since like two weeks ago when they were going back and forth he’s tryna push something for the culture and surf has not said math name at all even when math got in his face all those months ago ur buggin
@@jerrellclarke4508 LMAOOO EXACTLY tf do people be talking about
@@jerrellclarke4508 Surf is a finesser. Pushing the culture? How? By acting like it's his idea to do midnight madness? You're dumb if you think Smack ain't involved and isn't getting any money from it.
@@jerrellclarke4508 I fuck wit surf heavy but you definitely cap. I just heard the nigga say verb name last week. Now I ain’t heard him say math name tho.
@@jerrellclarke4508 bro you can’t talk down on somebody and tell them how to respond and how long to respond. If it’s war it’s war.
Verb is crazy! This dude be Killin me!
He might as well bring in Cortez so they can have a weird Sausage Party and talk about Surf all day😂😂
In Surf space it be a total of about 500 people about 450 are men riding Surf cotail muting speakers hehe and haha everything Surf say not letting people respond to questions ect. But people start they own space to talk they peace without interruptions and the extra stuff it becomes a sausage party? So my question how do u feel about Surf spaces!!?...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔✌️
Ur obviously bias surf is not the only one who mutes and kicks people twork does it and hustle and greedy and polo and auntie it’s clearly u don’t know what ur talking about
they all talk...Surf will be on there talking about whoever. stop reaching. cornball
@@jerrellclarke4508 How is what I said being biased!!?🤔🤔🤔
@@jerrellclarke4508 if you enjoy surf more. Why are you listening to this vid? Take that wave back ova there.
it's crazy ppl threw the evidence of surf following trans pages under the rug... smh y'all fans in the closet our d riders
🤣🤣30:41 Verb "YALL WOULDN'T ASK ME SHIT MAN!!!"
Verb and Math really want to be liked and HATE when Surf gets the limelight.
This is really sad to see
Surf really be hurting grown men's feelings...
Both Math & Verb are older than Surf.
the truth hurt, grown men out here using Surf as a algorithm again
Surf got the most delusional fan base in all of battle rap, I thought it was Hollow but nah it’s Surf by far 😂😄
@@jeremiahwilliams7630 Nah its definitely JC fans.
@@wolf7el356 Mook fans to
If you have to approve the messenger before you listen to the message, you'll miss out on a ton of gems in life. Just my opinion 🤷🏾♂....
Facts ☝🏽
Math " maybe he had to jump a ramp to get with 60s"
Verb talking like he is invincible. He’s the easiest legend to beat…
U must be from Jersey
Rex is the easiest
Anyone can lose on any night, no one is invincible. Name one undefeated battler with a resume like his
How can you say he's the easiest to beat, when he beat most of the legends. That includes Surf lol
Disrespectful
Two grown ass men conspiring against another man😂😂
Surf always talking about other men tho🤔
Exactly bro two salty ass grown man coming together to talk about another man they both don’t like lol
@@oboogie6992 Surf be counting other mens pockets and talking shit about other niggas as well 🤔🤔
Don’t do that. Surf is on Spaces every day talking shit
@@marvingibbs9539 you know that people ignore that because it's surf😂
Verb said put that chicken down😂
NY is the hardest place to get respect-Verb👏🏽💯
That nigga said "I got one shot, one opportunity". This ain't 8 Mile fam.
Verb and Math are entertaining!!!
Boy said he 38 and he takin pics with his homies AAAYYYOOO THESE NIGGAS WILD of course they gone take surf side lol
To all saying verb keep talking about surf... understand, he is exhibiting the 48 LAWS OF POWER.. destroy your enemy completely!! Thats all!!
But he’s not destroying Surf, he’s lookn bad
@@VitoCorleone38 you entitled to your opinion i cant debate a opinion homie
Dude who came in complaining about Chess sound lame as hell🤦🏾♂️😂😂🤣
That's some snake shii
This how it is dang cass was right from jump!
What The Most High has for you is for you, nothing these men say can't stop the shining of the universe towards you 🙏🏽God's Plan
Math had to start his own shit. He was tired of getting muted on Surf shit
Are you a Surf cheerleader?. You are a boy DAMON!
I would have too, Surf couldn't let the man talk
@@thought_check8051 It's cool Math you didn't know how clubhouse worked
@@MikeMars- They both childish but it was still funny too me 🤷🏾♂️
@@JokerMerciless13 doesn't matter if I knew or not. It happened and it was some girl shit. Mind you I like surf as well but you gotta call a spade a spade.
Verb get mad and turn into Verb Tucker
No offense but verb don't even matter right now.
Lies Verb A Problem
Math :: Maybe he had to Jump a Ramp to Become 60z ....😭😭😭😭😭 Them Surf Shotz just keep coming from Math
Verb is an All Lives Matter supporter…. Stop talking
Sounds like Math is too......because some Irish man helped his great great grandfather 😂😂
It’s weird to say not cheering is a fan thing but battlers have ppl w/ them on stage and usually they try not to give the other side reactions
ISLAND GANG HOFFA GANG WHAT YALL KNOW BOUT THAT........
It's only because it's Math that people disagree with or hate this. Let it had been Surf saying the same thing these guys are saying word for word it would be praise in the comment session!!!🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣✌️
Maybe he had to Jump a ramp to become 60s 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
Hey math u ain't got barz like dat!!!
Verb funny as hell
Yall wouldn't ask me shit man verb Hella funny
Twork and drugs sound alike so prepare the same way, that’s why verb be dying like that
🤣😂
Maybe he had to jump a ramp to become a 60s lol
Verb is speaking facts! There are Black and White Kings. He goes off of how he's treated. Please let that sink in!
I agree with the point of you become what you continue to think about. I just think it looks like you become like the company you keep because its very easy to take on the ideology of those around you.
Damn Verb really in his feelings
If Drugz, Lu, Jakk, and Shine are all the same as Twork does that mean Verb can't beat any of them? lol
“Jump a ramp ‘ 🤦🏾♂️
Maybe you gotta jump a ramp to become part of the 60's LMFAO!!!
Verb hating shit krazy
Math gotta hold himself accountable he be hating on these dudes cause he not praise like them I watched him bash Roc Hitman etc on his podcast for no reason
Who’s the nigga sounding like Barney Rubble? 😂
Verb going ham!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Verb is so overrated 😂
Explain?
best resume ever.
greatest battle rap moments ever.
pls explain!?
Verb always pick one target and go on a rampage about him for weeks on end we have seen it since he battles hitman literally verb need to do something to push the culture forward whatever he’s doing with yoshi is cool but he literally has not done nothing for the culture that benifits anyone else besides battle
What other rapper has done this? Most just start their own leagues. And jumps on url when their league starts falling off. Cut it out. Verb gave us all the Saint Louis people. He's done enough. If he chooses to do more that's his decision. Go back to Surf spaces and ride that wave that never existed. 😴
@@rehn4529 Facts
You do know verb is "one of" the first battle rappers to have his own league right??? Lux had lionz den, verb had Word War. Owe is Street Status. Surf finally starts a league, and now he's pushing the culture forward?😂 Verbs league brought STL into battle rap, then came the Midwest Movement, this nigga spearheaded one of the biggest movement that help get the culture to where it is now.
If they follow you it cool.
Exactly them gon get in front of Mook talking about he didn't do nothing for NOT 1 OF US 🤣
I just don't get all the hate directed at Surf. Like why can't he have his time to shine? Maybe at one time he didn't have his skills as sharp as they should be but right now he's on his A game. His day will come and go and then someone else will have their moment. Verb and Math just sound jealous of Surf.
No
@@htxflow yes
Surf hating to
@@PopLotti2016 too
When's the last time Verb bodies somebody 🤔
Head Ice
@@bigdangerous5044 🤣 that nigga didn't body ICE.. What did Verb say that battle that made you feel he bodies ICE?
@@weontv203 Verb was average Ice was ass. That equals a body
@@weontv203 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ So head Ice won or you’re just hating VerB I’ll go with the latter
@@bigdangerous5044 i don't hate no battler. I don't know these niggaz personally. Still waiting for that answer tho. If he BODIED Ice, you should at least remember a few lines. I ain't asking for all 3 rounds
11 minutes in these fans trying hard as hell to get them to outright diss Surf😂🤣
Ah , i see why surf came at math the way he did earlier now
This may have been after that shit.
@@brandonhayes4786 good point
VERB IS CLEARLY DA FUNNIEST BATTLE RAPPER
Verb hasn’t had a good showing in years..Surf just went 9-0 in 90days against killers..dudes gotta stop hating smh
No he has stop it
He just 30d head ice
Surf lost to 40 Bars; enough said!
@@heisenberg2966 You said that like 40 is trash or something. 40 will beat 💩 down Verb's leg. 40's pen is crazy. Plus, Surf CLEARLY didn't care about that battle. PLUS, the app has him winning lol.
@@GodOfDestructionVegeta27 You are making my point! For Surf is constantly calling other Battle Rappers “ Trash “, when he has been the one DISRESPECTING BATTLE RAP, by not taking Battles/ Some Opponents seriously, only writing and giving 2 Rounds, and Criticizing URL/Caffeine, when things DON’T GO THE WAY HE THINKS THEY SHOULD GO! I think TSU SURF is a Talented and Entertaining Person, that has DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH! Certainly Aye Verb and Math Hoffa might not be as Popular as Surf, but you can never claim that those two DISRESPECT THE CULTURE LIKE SURF DOES!
Math ain't even finish fnf...FOH 😆
This home talk
i know verb not talkin bout stats , damn near 0-7 last 7 fights
This is my thing my expert opinion is amazing but math it’s turned into a industry podcast and a history of the industry which I have no problem with at all yall touch on battle rap slightly here and there push the damn issue of battle rap on the people u have sitting infront of u and make the general convo about battle rap
Well that's the fans fault. Any time math calls out goodz, surf, roc etc... y'all say math is ice cold right now, he just fishing for a battle when he isn't even relevant. So he steps away from it, a steers his show in a different direction, and now y'all saying he has to talk about battle rap. Let me get this straight, y'all can tell him y'all don't want to see him battle (how he makes money), but then tell him he HAS to bring up battle rap on his show???🤔
@@ks_wallace2324 I fully agree ... the battles that are big good battles for math everyone saying no one wants to see math and then want him to push battle rap on his show he created on his own ... and use it to push the same platform that doesn't want to see him lol ... yeah sure even when he did his battles with the legends people hated that was him pushing battle rap in his own way with battling meth, Nicki Jams, etc so after seeing how they treated him why would he want to push battle rap for
@@14Krazh14 Ong!!! Fans be weird bro. Y'all can't downplay math everytime he wants to battle, then tell him you should push the issue of battle rap on his guest. Why should he have industry people on HIS show and bring up battle rap when battle rap acts like they hate him. Nigga I ain't supporting a culture that don't even fuck with me😂
Why???? The world is way bigger than battle rap. And battle rap dont support him, hes reaching different countries and regions with his content. Hes just growing.
@@ks_wallace2324 facts
Not da 🐐🐐's. Salute Hoffa and Da Island God.. Real Rap
Yo math where thah album sun my pre order was 100$ B🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Verb wants to be the man so bad but just chill brova. U made your mark but you can’t force people to fux with you. And if u didn’t want people to fux with you, u wouldn’t be in these spaces talking like you do Daily.
I kept saying how is it all this hate goin on and Math ain't around he gotta be pulling up soon 🤣🤣 and look
You know Math will actually pull up on these niggas in person, let's not forget.
Lol didn’t Geechi RUN math outta battle rap? Hasn’t had a battle since
Nah that was t top 😂
@@ballsdeep6548 lol when it comes to battle rap Math needs to 🤫. 30’d by T-Top, 30’d by Showoff, 30’d by Ave, 30’d by Calicoe , 30’d by Bigg K…chill Math 😂😂😂😂
@@bdottelevision5654 😂😂😂
Tell them drop the battle then
You lying nigga!!!!
Math beat Geechi...which is why they didn't drop it yet on RUclips. He beat Big K, lost to T Top even though he had better bars, just stumbled a lot....Beat Verb and lost to Calicoe....Killed Hollow, Dose, Suge, Hitman Holla, Dizaster, Pat Stay, ILL Will, Snake Eyez, and Real Deal. He beat Charlie Clips also. And Tha Saurus, has a debatable with Serous Jones. He's a legend in this shit. Let's not forget T Rex and Iron Soloman also. He is one of the fathers of URL....
Surf be hating to but I know why he finally respected before he went to jail he wasn’t nothing or in nobody top five he trying to keep the ones that a smoke him out the game like MOOK but he can’t back in the days he couldn’t fuck nobody he was bottom tier now he not that just the truth all battle rapper hate they hate in the bars they say
Man these niggaz Math letting speak is weirdo’s salute to the Island 🏝 God tho
Nothing weirdo about realxone the one in the red facts
If MM does affect you why u mad. Let ppl do them. You do you. If you great as you say you are just get you bread.
These fools is jealous
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad to hear people that look like me who ain't with that pro black shit....it's all about pro human...pro good individual
weirdos
Verb talking like he’s the goat. Roc smoked him and the surf win don’t count
All you sound the same that’s lame you hit man sound the same truth be told Smfh
They sound nothing alike only their accent dummy 🤣🤣