[B&S] Shadow Gunner Review
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This is one of the best guides out there for anyone who wants to check out the gunner pre-release on NA/EU. Everything you need to know is covered! Great job keroppi!
I was recommended this video even though I don't play Blade & Soul
I have been thinking of getting back into Blade and soul but its been so long im afraid i wouldnt know where to start again.
I don't even know why I watched this... don't play B&S or anything...
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Thank you so much for taking the time to explain everything.... I am looking forward to playing the gunner
thanks much for posting this! looking at the skill trees for a class never really do it justice in terms of understanding the rotations and the nature of the class in general, this guide has been quite enlightening!
I am curious if in a later video you could demonstrate how sky shard works?
enjoyed every minute of this video, really complete and thorough, with a lot of skill explanation.....pls pls pls make one for fire spec (i just like how the gfx on that looks)
keroppi ty so much on your quick response and looking forward to it
Thanks a ton my dood, I've been conflicted on which gunner to pick, I like how fire looks but I prefer the right mouse usage of the shadow. I'll be going with this one.
Finally a RUclipsr who undertands what its like to be a newb and Needs step by step explanations without any weird words new Players cant know.
Thanks a lot for that 👍🏼
Dude, epic explained guide. Im a new commer and now i got the things about gunner class. Salute to this guy!
Wonderful guide for shadow. Makes more sense how the gunner works in that spec. I noticed your ping in the chinese server is about what mine shows on NA, so I shouldn't be worried about ping problems.
Nice Guide. i Like your guides allot. Keep doing this amazing Job!
Thanks for this video it was just what i needed :^) good job!
Dang, gunner seems to be more in depth than i thought. I play SF as my main and Inner Chi/Golden Dragon are the only real micro management buffs i need to worry about, but this is a whole different level. Thanks for the guide, it really cleared some things up on the class. One thing I'm curious about, though, is that percent bar in the upper left of your UI. There seems to be a soul cd timer, weapon stack counter (?), and a ring timer, but what is that to the far left?
Thanks for your cover on gunner mate and keep going ❤️
This is awesome detailed guide! Thanks dude :)
I really fell in love with this class! I once tried it in China server last week with the terrible ping. It's quite difficult to play when the skills need continuance. I don't know when it will come in Thai server. Thanks for the guide! I'll fight with that ping and play it again!!
GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR IT ,and might i ask which sould badge is for shadow? and what's for fire?
Ok, first of all THANK YOU! i mean realy thank you. I was on the edge of quiting bns before i stumbled on your channel. And damn i have learned alot from your videos. The only thing i NEED to know is the song name for you intro and outro
Could u do a video explaining which soul badge and mystic badge are good for shadow and fire gunner? Awesome video as always
Feels sooo op, nice guide :)
Great guide, finally someone talks about the abilities. But I have one more question left, could you compare gunner dps with other classes or maybe have a number for me?
Thanks for the quick response
very good guide , a question what weapon is recommended for shadow and what badges i need ?
Nice video :) as always..but 1 question do you guys have Blackwyrm in misty woods? or they removed it also
Dang..really missed that dragon, was the only thing intresting in bns to do
Hey Keroppi great video, i have one question i have a shadow gunner with 8 MSP SS and magnum badge and , what rotation is good for my ? best regards and congrats for the fantastic channel.
Thank you very much Keroppi, you have helped me a lot and your explanation is very good and detailed. You are very kind thanks again.
Keroppi a more little question: During the lightspeed only pres RMB or is better press another combination? for example 4+ rmb + f ? regards and thanks again
Ok, I do have a question and that is regarding HM skill versions. Are there any that are just absolutely crucial like the WL hm dragon call or is it mostly like skills that help but it's fine if you take a little longer to get them? Like I main a WL and I can tell you that it's a really trash class without hm skills. However, some of my alts more have skills that I would like to have but doesn't really hurt to not have them.I am really more so wondering if there are any I need to rush and do day one. Working on doing priority with it because I am marathon leveling it and then doing BT with it that weekend when it releases on the NA server.
Great guide great explainations
For Baleful and Seraph weapon. Which is better for a shadow gunner? The description for mine is still in Chinese. So am having a harder time to decide. On instincts I would go for Baleful. What would you recommend?
I love your videos man. Have you ever thought about streaming?
Hope you answer this, should I use the 3 combo thing if I don't want to lifesteal, just for dps?
Just a quick question out of curiosity. As a shadow gunner in a party with a warlock, do we to do a different rotation when we receive soul burn buff? I main a warlock previously, during soul burn, my rotation goes into rmb + 4. So am wondering when receiving soul burn as a gunner, do I need to switch any rotations. Thanks in advance for looking into my question and for the clear and wonderful videos.
keroppi thank you for the speedy reply. Appreciate it. Keep the videos coming. Enjoying all of it and subscribing to you :)
Unless you have tab up, light speed is a dps loss. The rotation outside of tab, should be rmb 4 f to empty the meter, so you don't enter light speed. Even with tab, in a party it's depending on the wl knowing sb timing and keeping up sb on the 1min cd.
awesome guide, its really helpfull, thank you very much XD
i have one question, which weapon are really reccommended for early stage ? i mean like seraph or baleful, and ofc for shadow build ^^
keroppi ah lovely, thank you for your reply, thats really help me XD
gunner also will be released in TW, and i found your videos for my training XD
keroppi yeah, Gunner released this month, at 13th
loved video
thank you ! i love you
Is there a way to reduce the cooldown of the Z ? Like in terms of badges or any other items
Great guide tho!
Ah, too bad. Thanks for the fast answer btw ^^
I really like this guide, since i didn't really know right rotation etc, so itrs really helpful. Tho, i would like to know what badge i should use on shadow gunner, since it's going to be my main on EU server, and i want to be prepared for costs of it. What badge is the best right now for gunner then?
So its a badge from Fury season, its really expensive o EU server too. I also heard that the yellow badge, from mushin is good, is that true?
Thank you for your answer btw!
Hey Keroppi is shadow gunner supposed to have subpar DPS at mid-level gear (~900AP)? So far I have to say I'm extremely disappointed in shadow gunner's DPS. My fire FM and shadow gunner have almost IDENTICAL gear, yet in training room my fire FM does at least 15-20k more DPS.
Rotation I'm using:
- 3,3,3 + F for dark mark
- V for a tiny bit of sustain damage
- Hold down RMB and spam F every 5 seconds until metre builds up
- Tab and machinegun mode
- Hold down RMB and spam F every 5 seconds until metre builds up
- C, and semi-machinegun mode but with annoying pauses since it's not really infinite focus
- Hold down RMB and spam 4 until C or Tab goes off cooldown
I seem to be having A LOT of trouble keeping focus in machinegun mode after using C (yes it's spec'd to focus regen). It doesn't seem to help with focus at all, I still run out of focus every 1-2 seconds and have to hard reload.
- Is C supposed to be completely useless unless I get the eternal soul badge?
- Am I doing something else wrong? Cause my DPS is just ridiculously subpar. Even at ~910AP I only get like ~35k dps in F2 literally standing there continuously shooting
- Even Tab + machinegun spam doesn't increase DPS much, it remains pretty much the same as regular RMB spam?
- Am I supposed to be spamming 4 + F (which cancel each other out for metre buildup) or simply hold down RMB?
My ping is ~120-200, fluctuates a lot, but RMB auto-attack is definitely faster than your "fire vs shadow in high ping" video.
hey a little question. would not be Press "3" before we hit 100 result in more dmg?
Thx for this video. But i heard that on Koreans use fire build cus of more dps is that true?
Hi .. thanks for your cover and i have a question
What the gunner will have when warlock use soul burn ?
keroppi oki thank you mr 😊
I can't contain my HYPE! It's Overflowing! I need the 13th now :D
@keroppi I see the Deadly Mark or TAB Skills got HM Books on it what skills book does it need and what do they add if we got the skills book?
and you should use Precision Shot when you want to use Tab since that will give you Abyss Mark which give you extra damage with rapid fire or delusive shots
Thanks!
how do u get those hooks icons and shadow meter to show? I havent seen those and i tried to look for them in shift + f1
So i get that gunner resets the big skills, but when you cast soulbern and/or blue buff it gives a debuff so you cant use the skills from another soulburn/ blue buff again for a little bit. Does gunner also get rid of the debuff?
Hey bro, im pretty new to BnS and after I've reached level 50 HM 8 im pretty much stuck at leveling my weapon but i dont really understand how others level up their HM levels i found it pretty hard. Whats your advice for me? and as well as gearing up?
keroppi sweet thanks bro
Can you make a video with crafting ui in cn? We just got announced big changes in crafting system. I just don't really know what to expect. Also don't want to lose gold from mats - im crafting alot of things (my daily income from crafts on 9 chars is around 150g a day (eu)).
What are your thoughts on no awakened delusive shot and just spamming rmb/4/f?
Gotcha, I'll just have to try out and see what works best for me I guess. Thanks!
Can you do a guide on PvE HM skills for shadow gunner? I know you did one for fire gunner at end of the fire gunner video. Also, which build do you recommend for a casual player who will never be able to get the endgame gear? ~930AP is as high as I can probably go. I can never even get into a BT raid since the min AP requirement on NA/EU server for BT is 950-1000AP (yes it's stupid, but people are elitists here), so MSP shield + oath legendary accessories + stage 12 baleful = the best I'll be able to get. I've used fire for a long time cause I heard it does overall more damage, but it's so RNG-dependent and feels rather clunky with the constant F spamming.
Thanks! Sorry by build I meant should I spec fire or shadow, which affects the soul badge I should unseal (I have a tradeable Primal Force, Holy Fire and Devotion from an event). Also it should be 234 raven + 15678 MSP? I'm on Yura and so far have been unlucky in finding a non-elitist guild, but that's ok I probably don't have enough time to grind gear to that high anyways, I'm happy with just getting my gunner to 900 to have some fun with it. Takes too much time to maintain 4 characters.
Any tips of beginners? Im also using the gunslinger class
Do you have a soul fighter you can maybe do a guide on ?
Can you please explain soulburn rotation? What's awakened skill for gunner? Is IT spammable as long as sb is up?
What about weapon? Gunners go Baleful or Seraph?
bit late. But just a Fyi. 3 marks giving you more damage on dark shot.. massive dps lose not using it.
Are the rules on gems different where u play? I noticed u have 2 amethyst gems in your weapon... or do i seriously need new spectacles XD
Amazing guide. Already shared to my friends. Keep it up. Any hopes for a fire build guide?
That will be awesome. I'm very excited for that! Also, with soulburn, you rather save the tab or reflux?Or both? lol. I suggest find a clanmate wl, just to visualize what to do. Nice channel, keep it up.
in bns ch i see all them play gunner flame...and i want know which one is good for PVE ??
KEro, Flame is also a beast for pvp over Shadow, at least from what I did in pvp xD
I know you have 2 videos but I'm struggling to understand the difference between fire and shadow???
For both fire and shadow.. Baleful or seraph???
Do you have lower graphics than 5? I remember seeing a weird beam of shots like a laser of shots in one of the vidros when the compulsion is at max.
keroppi ohhh thank you man, video is so informative keep it up!
keroppi sorry but uhm how does rmb cast so fast when cast time is 0.1seconds when compulsion isn't at 100
Is getting the 8 piece MSP (wind plains i think its for asia) worth getting or should I stick to 5 piece MSP and 3 piece Xanos.?
What is the bonus for 8 piece, what good does it do?
keroppi so from experience I know Cn does not have baleful seraph path. In kr seraph gives reduced cd on reflux and falling blossom. For baleful it gives 10% dmg on led shot and delusive. Which would be better? ( sry for long post)
hi may i know when is tw release the class?
Good vid and all but lets get serious.... Source for the Gif at the beginning? :D
Nvm, if anyone is interested, I found it: pa1.narvii.com/5934/74aa50aeb1dde8474e5a547a517c8eac006f094c_hq.gif
Can you pls press U(Achievement) - Character - Skills and show how to open legendary skills
Thank you, I will wait
How do you level up so fast? i'm stuck on hm level 9 and I do dailies everyday yet make slow progress
which Hongmooon skill book to get for shadow
?
when the bar almost fill up,
F->tab / F->C
OR
tab->F / C->F??
This is great too bad i mess up weapon choice, now i have to change it and need ton of money
i love my gunner over wl what sucks geting bagde only way is trove or paying over price kind wish they combine all token in one but o well
i suck at tower cant get past 30 on na server
can you do a full gearing guide?
any idea for 280-290ms player? Fire better?
Hey Keroppi, since you play on the NA servers as well, do you think it's worth it to stay as shadow gunner? 99% of people say shadow gunner is completely worthless other than the cooler RMB animation, worse in both PvE and PvP. Only reason I'm playing it is because of the animation as well as fire's animation is atrocious. But that low DPS on shadow gunner compared to fire is really starting to annoy me. I've already invested in a mystic badge + soul badge, and both BT accessories, all 4 are shadow exclusive. Is it still worth it to re-roll as fire? If it's something minor like a 5% dps loss as shadow then I'm fine, but I'm constantly seeing lower geared fire gunners doing like 25% more damage than me... sigh.
Hello! Just one question the class is rly high ping dependent or not really?
thank you for the answer sir !
i saw in ur video u have the same ping like me in game so i think i'm good
Nice guide. Im just wondering if this is still playable with 250ms? It looks like its so ping reliant. :(.
Ohhh thanks for fast reply. What do you think about fire build? Is it much better for high ping players? Can you make a guide for fire build? Thank you man.
that command skill can be reset with legandary weapon 10 stack?and even its reset,is it have any effect if u use it?
no i mean,can the command skill cooldown be reset with the legandary weapon (reset cooldown after 10 stack)
ah thanks
Command also reset focus chi on sf ?
which one have higher DPS right now? Shadow or flame?
We won't get the lvl55 Ultimate on this Gunner update on NA server... wtf
best soul badge/mystic badge?
Is this the current build as well? or has it changed
Heard that just ignoring lightspeed pulls better dps than even dealing with it?
Which build do you prefer? Shadow or Fire? :)
What's the point of HM rmb for gunner ? What does it change ?
keroppi wow thanks
what should i chouse for pvp and pve for gunner shadow or flame plz help :)
thx alot man then il go for shadow :)
can i know dude, why in kr always use fire build in both of pve and pvp ? or shadow build just too weak than the fire build, but i think that shadow build rotation more easy than fire build
can you tell me why the shadows build not strong than the fire build ? in test servers all gunners use shadows build
thanks dude
i'm a gunner at lvl 40 and i don't see any attack speed aspects on bns "im a new player" how you attack that fast ? its a item combination or if i level up i'm getting that attack speed ?
keroppi it seems i get 150 ping in the server
keroppi I can combo really fast but your attack Speed on only the rmb is much higher than mine
yeah i already use it , i saw now my ping isn't 150 its 267 .. maybe that's why haha it looks like i will never proper enjoy this game i'm from brazil and i tested 3 vpn's and none of them helped me
aquamarine gem doesnt increase the focus?the gem that give 10% focus recovery
=w=b
i dont think aquamarine tradeable in NA too
hmm does "3" rly give health? it not says anything in desription is it from some item or what?
I see thanks ;)
Pls tell me how to unlock HM skill C
I would like to know the name of the wallpaper you have as your thumbnail, please.
keroppi wait really !! I play soul worker how coukd i miss that >_
Is there a female gunslinger in soul worker ? or is it just a cross over fan art (which is epic btw)
Does gunner use full set msp or 1-5 msp , 6-8 xanos?
I'm from the future and I would say it depends but I'm leaning towards 1-5 msp and 6-8 xanos
Goddamn this shit's useful
which soul shield are you using? I could not understand it right.
where can I get this? ;-;
I play on NA. Ty for ur answer
Rip tho. Raven 7 with 3 slots
can you say dps compare with other class? like who?
mean only dps, with equal equip, like what class?
Could u pls show us the second ultimate
keroppi thank you senpai
Which skill requires Vol.2?
this seems requires super low ping to play
keroppi I'll with fire build lol
owh okay2, i'll try to go with fire build then ^_^, got an almost constant 230ms makes it seems impossible
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