Scru's 100% right about Android 16's death being the final straw. It's not just that, though. For Gohan's whole life he's known that if someone dies they can just be brought back with the Dragon Balls, but 16 was entirely a machine. Cell killed the one person that can never be brought back and Gohan understood that. You add those together and that being the moment that turned him SSJ2 makes, well... *Perfect* sense.
And what makes it go further is 16’s nature was similar to Gohan 16 wasn’t a fighter for non other than 17 and 18 who he learned how to care about and the planet he figured he cared about cause he liked wildlife Gohan saw that and was like that’s me if I don’t shape up he basically watch his peaceful ideals die at that moment
@Mavolovolo-zc4lm So? Just like Goku, Gohan cares about the lives of others even if they are evil. 16s death was apart of his rage being set free, it was the literal last straw whether you agree with it or not
Coldest character in dragon ball for me is Kakarot, aka Goku when he locks in. Gohan just looks the coldest because when he's locked in is against enemies that he could easily kill. When Goku locks in is against enemies on his level, and even them feel the difference, they know if they fuck up that ''clown'' they were fighting few seconds ago will pack them up.
Man, you know it's bad when they started treating MAJIN BUU like a joke. The man who literally ATE a Final Explosion against Majin Vegeta, the man who was getting YoYo Punched by SSJ3 Goku and smiled about it... Majin Buu being cuffed the way he has been, in my opinion, might be worse than how they cuff Piccolo.
To be fair that's just because Buu is lazy like he could highkey be just as dangerous as any of the Saiyans or GODs. Also Uub is sitting in the cut always
Don't forget Android 18. She saw her brother get absorbed, saw nearly everyone on the island be as strong, if not STRONGER than her, and KNEW cell was trying to absorb her. And she stood there doing nothing
@@jerrygoodman1943 Semi-Perfect Cell: IF ONLY I REACHED MY PERFECT FORM , I'D HAVE BEATEN ALL OF YOU!! Vegeta: OH Really? Trunks: noo SPC: I'D have destroyed you without a second thought! Vegeta: .....Go onnn Trunks: nooooOOOO-
Scru, Gohan lock in is literally when Goku locks in. Look at the first Cooler movie when Goku turns super sayian for the first time, that scene is the proof that Goku is Gohan’s father.
Speaking about Gohan lowkey being a villian when he locks in made me think him getting that "Beast" mode was a perfect form for him. It reminds me of certain depictions of werewolves in movies and "Non Pure-Bloods" that have the most power and the gnarliest transformations
tbh if they gonna bring the humans to get mixed, at least them rock a few henchmen. maybe a few sergeants before the colonels and the generals show up. have them there to get hoe’d only, is crazy.
If you wanna go on a piccolo rant, carthu dojo has a video called "the road to orange piccolo" that shows his overall history. I recommend checking it out
Orange piccolo was written pretty well. On the surface it seems rushed, but every namekian ties back to the dragon balls so it makes sense that he got a big power boost from asking the dragon to release his potential. Hes literally the legendary super namekian, word to dbza.
Honestly who even cares if its well written or not at this point. DB has crossed that point a while ago. Freeza went from Namek level to God Blue level in mere 4 months just by beating up his underlings. 17 went from getting manhandled by imperfect cell to God Blue level or atleast very close to it if you wanna cope that Goku was holding back. Freaking Roshi went from struggling against Kid Goku and Tien back in DB to casually wiping the floor with Freeza soldiers and even went against a few of the handpicked warriors of other universes. Who even cares at this point anymore?? Just enjoy when the character you like gets any screentime now lmao
2:43 blame Vegeta too out there Gassing himself after coming out of hyperbolic time chamber just to let Cell hit the perfect form and slump his son For Stopping Cell😂😂😂😂😂.These Deadbeat Dads ain't gotta dodge tye allegations 😂😂
This all on Krillin & Vegeta, facts. I watched the android arc 3 months ago, Krillin never pissed me off ever like any other anime character, straight wildin
so in terms of who fault it is Its Krillin for destroying the remote Vegeta for not finishing Cell and Fighting Trunks who was trying to kill Cell 18 for not running away when 16 told her to dip kinda at fault Goku for not eating a Senzu Bean when he needed to Not at fault Piccolo gave his all Tien weak but still helped 16 and 18 escape Trunks, the anime makes it look like he's also at fault for not killing 18 when he had the chance but thats only in the anime, in the manga as soon as Cell noticed 18 he told Vegeta to stop trunks and then hit everyone with Solar Flare and absorbed 18, there was no "leave now" from Trunks to 18 they never spoke once So yea, Trunks continues to be the only person that gets shit done
Android 16's death was definitely a buildup of everything for Gohan. Throughout his life, Gohan has been in positions where he potentially had the power to stop a villain everyone else was struggling with, but he didn't because he couldn't control his power. He was the only one could really fight Raditz, but didn't know how to tap into his power, so Goku died to kill Raditz. Then later with Frieza, he had flashes of his hidden power, but again, he couldn't control it, and thereafter Krillin died. The Cell Saga was a buildup of all of this. When Android 16 dies, it's a reminder of these past incidents. It's driven home even more when Cell refers to 16 as "yet another fighter you could have saved." That really was the final straw for Gohan, especially after being told by 16 that it's not a sin to fight, which has always been Gohan's biggest drawback, his pacifism. It's great character writing.
What are you saying "gohan doesnt hesitate on the kill" that's literally why cell ended up blowing himself up as semi-perfect cell, or why super buu absorbed gotenks. Sure, its not the same reason as goku, but he definitely isnt one to just pull the trigger. Edit: i may have spoken too soon, but still, saying "thats the piccolo" is disingenuous
He meant hesitate for some sympathy reasons like Goku letting Vegeta live and giving Frieza some of his power. Gohan wasn't letting cell off, he was enjoying beating him too much and that's what cost him.
@@marcust-kq4cv the manga has piccolo do this as well, in the manga version of the tournament of power, piccolo was about to eliminate an opponent, which would cause the erasure of a universe, and piccolos hesitated, before Frieza knocked the other guy off
i feel like android 16's death wasn't the last straw, it was the warning. Cell was warning Gohan that he wasn't playing around and he WILL kill them if they don't lock in.
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Hey Scru! your reactions are always really good! I know you’re a big fan of Piccolo. I think you would appreciate Orange Piccolo a little bit more if you watch “The Road to Orange Piccolo” from Carthu’s Dojo. Very lore-rich. It’s a 10 minute video you could react to on here. But yeah, I don’t consider it an axxpull, because of the lore. Beast Gohan is still whack though. lmao
Hot take: Gohan would never have been a good replacement for Goku, goku even tried to pass the torch to gohan twice and he failed catastrophically and resulted in his friends “death” (Perfect cell, and super buu)
11:10 idk what the hell you talkin bout, that's Chi Chi's genes not Piccolo. Did we forget how Chi Chi was willing to fight Buu after seeing him delete the whole human population? Chi Chi deserves more credit cause if she had powers she'd be more raw than anyone in DBZ
I just gotta say it, I hate how people shit on Yamcha so much, like the guy is still one of the strongest humans on the planet, Plus he's a professional baseball player, so he's got a respectable job too
It was 16..16 made goahn realize sometimes you have to be violent to orotext things and people you love he did say " 16 you loved life and you were just an andriod,no more i wont watch this anymore "
Preach Bro! They be Str8 hoing Piccolo. You pointed out, that he clearly be picking up the other Z-Fighters work. Just think of how many times Piccolo came to Gohan's aid; while Goku just standing there and watching Cell pack up his ONLY son! (Goten wasn't born yet) 😅😂
Scru's 100% right about Android 16's death being the final straw. It's not just that, though. For Gohan's whole life he's known that if someone dies they can just be brought back with the Dragon Balls, but 16 was entirely a machine. Cell killed the one person that can never be brought back and Gohan understood that. You add those together and that being the moment that turned him SSJ2 makes, well... *Perfect* sense.
And what makes it go further is 16’s nature was similar to Gohan 16 wasn’t a fighter for non other than 17 and 18 who he learned how to care about and the planet he figured he cared about cause he liked wildlife Gohan saw that and was like that’s me if I don’t shape up he basically watch his peaceful ideals die at that moment
Gohan did not know him
@@Mavolovolo-zc4lmdoesn’t matter they have similar ideology he connected with gohan in those moments
@@CrishyWakeUp it was the build up not 16
@Mavolovolo-zc4lm So? Just like Goku, Gohan cares about the lives of others even if they are evil. 16s death was apart of his rage being set free, it was the literal last straw whether you agree with it or not
11:03 facts Scru, Gohan is utterly Ruthless when he turned Super Saiyan 2
Coldest character in dragon ball for me is Kakarot, aka Goku when he locks in. Gohan just looks the coldest because when he's locked in is against enemies that he could easily kill. When Goku locks in is against enemies on his level, and even them feel the difference, they know if they fuck up that ''clown'' they were fighting few seconds ago will pack them up.
Exactly
Man, you know it's bad when they started treating MAJIN BUU like a joke. The man who literally ATE a Final Explosion against Majin Vegeta, the man who was getting YoYo Punched by SSJ3 Goku and smiled about it... Majin Buu being cuffed the way he has been, in my opinion, might be worse than how they cuff Piccolo.
Majin buu, Tien, and piccolo get hoed for zero reason
@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 Bro facts! tien puts in too much work to be losing to a powered up master roshi 😭
@@devinestes5221 tien top 3 or top 5 hardest workers in dbz but gets hoed the most
To be fair that's just because Buu is lazy like he could highkey be just as dangerous as any of the Saiyans or GODs. Also Uub is sitting in the cut always
Dont forget krillin and yamcha those two were rocking with goku power and story wise just for z to make em jokes @justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569
When he said some yall just show up and get a ring is the truest shit I’ve heard😭💯
No. If you gotta blame someone, we blame Vegeta, easy.
Don't forget Android 18. She saw her brother get absorbed, saw nearly everyone on the island be as strong, if not STRONGER than her, and KNEW cell was trying to absorb her. And she stood there doing nothing
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"why. Are you. Still here?!?!?" Abridged 16
@@jerrygoodman1943 Semi-Perfect Cell: IF ONLY I REACHED MY PERFECT FORM , I'D HAVE BEATEN ALL OF YOU!!
Vegeta: OH Really?
Trunks: noo
SPC: I'D have destroyed you without a second thought!
Vegeta: .....Go onnn
Trunks: nooooOOOO-
Nahh. This is all krillins fault. All hr had to do was push a button. And no perfect cell
He JUST had 2 press a button
Just a reminder each cell junior worth like 70% of the real cell
Yea like half to 3/4,
Scru, Gohan lock in is literally when Goku locks in.
Look at the first Cooler movie when Goku turns super sayian for the first time, that scene is the proof that Goku is Gohan’s father.
I SWEAR!! Scru be adding so much hype to these videos that I be wanting to rewatch this🔥🔥😭
10:21 I've been saying that all the time ! love gohan
Speaking about Gohan lowkey being a villian when he locks in made me think him getting that "Beast" mode was a perfect form for him. It reminds me of certain depictions of werewolves in movies and "Non Pure-Bloods" that have the most power and the gnarliest transformations
The Legendary Tales of Himhan
In the defense of the Z fighters hey! atleast they showed up to the battlefield LOL. This world ending threat (again!) ain't punking the earthlings!
Also, not to mention that android 16 cant come back because he wasn't human at first like 17 and 18.
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tbh if they gonna bring the humans to get mixed, at least them rock a few henchmen. maybe a few sergeants before the colonels and the generals show up.
have them there to get hoe’d only, is crazy.
😂😂😂😂😂 he did but it didn't phase him. Hell yeah gohan is my son ❤❤❤
Piccolo was HIM on that fight man, he was just like that
If you wanna go on a piccolo rant, carthu dojo has a video called "the road to orange piccolo" that shows his overall history. I recommend checking it out
Orange piccolo was written pretty well. On the surface it seems rushed, but every namekian ties back to the dragon balls so it makes sense that he got a big power boost from asking the dragon to release his potential. Hes literally the legendary super namekian, word to dbza.
no it don't make any sense stop lying
@@nickalas666technically he was the creator of shenron. It does make sense to his arc for that relationship to come back full circle.
@@vaughn-chemoody3340 him being the creator of shenron doesn't mean he should just get random big power up for no reason
The buuld up could've been better.
Honestly who even cares if its well written or not at this point. DB has crossed that point a while ago. Freeza went from Namek level to God Blue level in mere 4 months just by beating up his underlings. 17 went from getting manhandled by imperfect cell to God Blue level or atleast very close to it if you wanna cope that Goku was holding back. Freaking Roshi went from struggling against Kid Goku and Tien back in DB to casually wiping the floor with Freeza soldiers and even went against a few of the handpicked warriors of other universes.
Who even cares at this point anymore?? Just enjoy when the character you like gets any screentime now lmao
2:43 blame Vegeta too out there Gassing himself after coming out of hyperbolic time chamber just to let Cell hit the perfect form and slump his son For Stopping Cell😂😂😂😂😂.These Deadbeat Dads ain't gotta dodge tye allegations 😂😂
gohan is HIM!!!!!!
This all on Krillin & Vegeta, facts. I watched the android arc 3 months ago, Krillin never pissed me off ever like any other anime character, straight wildin
so in terms of who fault it is
Its Krillin for destroying the remote
Vegeta for not finishing Cell and Fighting Trunks who was trying to kill Cell
18 for not running away when 16 told her to dip
kinda at fault
Goku for not eating a Senzu Bean when he needed to
Not at fault
Piccolo gave his all
Tien weak but still helped 16 and 18 escape
Trunks, the anime makes it look like he's also at fault for not killing 18 when he had the chance but thats only in the anime, in the manga as soon as Cell noticed 18 he told Vegeta to stop trunks and then hit everyone with Solar Flare and absorbed 18, there was no "leave now" from Trunks to 18 they never spoke once
So yea, Trunks continues to be the only person that gets shit done
part 2 better show how gohan is soo badass he killed 8/7 cell jr's. so crazy he killed an extra one that wasn't there
Facts my ma. Locked in Gohan is peak, and him
Goku did what a real father would and believed in his son.
Piccolo my favorite character straight g always on the frontline putting in work.
Android 16's death was definitely a buildup of everything for Gohan. Throughout his life, Gohan has been in positions where he potentially had the power to stop a villain everyone else was struggling with, but he didn't because he couldn't control his power. He was the only one could really fight Raditz, but didn't know how to tap into his power, so Goku died to kill Raditz. Then later with Frieza, he had flashes of his hidden power, but again, he couldn't control it, and thereafter Krillin died. The Cell Saga was a buildup of all of this. When Android 16 dies, it's a reminder of these past incidents. It's driven home even more when Cell refers to 16 as "yet another fighter you could have saved." That really was the final straw for Gohan, especially after being told by 16 that it's not a sin to fight, which has always been Gohan's biggest drawback, his pacifism. It's great character writing.
I will ALWAYS. ALWAYS! Blame Vegeta for perfect cell Cell can't be perfect if he's Dead
7:35 facts, this why other animes picked up on that slack. Everyone got the unique way of cooking. Dbz fighters just... lol but they still got it
Don't play with Piccolo, he was just as strong as #17 BEFORE the hyperbolic time chamber training, man was a monster
Piccolo doesn't get caught slacking, he just get hoe'd by the narrative sometimes
I’m gon NEED a part 2
Bro you're about to lose your mind when you hear the new Cordae/Wayne track that just dropped lol They both ate but God damn Wayne killed it😅
What are you saying "gohan doesnt hesitate on the kill" that's literally why cell ended up blowing himself up as semi-perfect cell, or why super buu absorbed gotenks. Sure, its not the same reason as goku, but he definitely isnt one to just pull the trigger.
Edit: i may have spoken too soon, but still, saying "thats the piccolo" is disingenuous
He meant hesitate for some sympathy reasons like Goku letting Vegeta live and giving Frieza some of his power. Gohan wasn't letting cell off, he was enjoying beating him too much and that's what cost him.
@@marcust-kq4cv the manga has piccolo do this as well, in the manga version of the tournament of power, piccolo was about to eliminate an opponent, which would cause the erasure of a universe, and piccolos hesitated, before Frieza knocked the other guy off
Lol Piccolo really Gohan Daddy brah 😂😂😂😂
i feel like android 16's death wasn't the last straw, it was the warning. Cell was warning Gohan that he wasn't playing around and he WILL kill them if they don't lock in.
The guy talking about the whole fight with the cell jrs forgot that goku was still warn out from his fight with cell 😅
Scru he is not a villian when he is locked in it's that Sayain DNA kicking in 😂.
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Piccolo came off the bench and dropped 18pts 7 rebs and 3 blks on the Cell jrs
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3:18 no cap Everyone know Piccolo is Gohan’s dad
You should react to The Kevin Bennett's Shy Guy Rap "Who I Am" Ft. Zach B, it's so much more than just another nerdcore track, it's a general song about being an introvert.
Listen, we can blame Krillin. I'm down for it. But if we are going to pick one person to blame, it better be Vegeta.
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As a Dragon Ball fan, you gotta react to FabvL's Goku song "Save The World" it's gotta be the best tribute song to Akira Toriyama! It also feels like he's talking about himself and the influences that Toriyama had on him and his work.
Hey Scru! your reactions are always really good! I know you’re a big fan of Piccolo. I think you would appreciate Orange Piccolo a little bit more if you watch “The Road to Orange Piccolo” from Carthu’s Dojo. Very lore-rich. It’s a 10 minute video you could react to on here. But yeah, I don’t consider it an axxpull, because of the lore. Beast Gohan is still whack though. lmao
Krillin could have blown up 18 and then if he wanted her so bad wished her back later after cell was dealt with
Gohan turned into a blacc guy here
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Hot take: Gohan would never have been a good replacement for Goku, goku even tried to pass the torch to gohan twice and he failed catastrophically and resulted in his friends “death” (Perfect cell, and super buu)
You're absolutely right. Gohan is a millennial.
I mean, Goku has done worse. Gohan just took it from Goku. The only reason Goku isn't replaced was simply because the wroter didn't want to either.
@@Anonymous-gq7howriter. No problem my boi
cold take 😭 u right gang
That happened because certain audiences didn't like NOT having Goku. Why do you think Vegeta, piccolo etc always gets played out lol
Gohan either dominates or he gets washed…literally no in between
But imagine this Gohan is 17 at the time of the buu series imagine anyone else other than a trunks gotten or videl maybe ubb at 17 lol
11:10 idk what the hell you talkin bout, that's Chi Chi's genes not Piccolo. Did we forget how Chi Chi was willing to fight Buu after seeing him delete the whole human population? Chi Chi deserves more credit cause if she had powers she'd be more raw than anyone in DBZ
She is stupid
She is dumb
Crazy thought but if u really think about it cell is goku son also
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Mf’s talk about piccolo being a dad like he didn’t kidnap Gohan after he killed Goku.
How is Orange Piccolo rushed ?
I just gotta say it, I hate how people shit on Yamcha so much, like the guy is still one of the strongest humans on the planet, Plus he's a professional baseball player, so he's got a respectable job too
Funny joke 😅
Don’t hate on vegeta and his arm when Goku keeps getting holes in his chest
gohan cold dont get me wrong but my nga, colder than VEGITO?? GOGETA???
Piccolo was the GOAT of DBZ im not even kidding around.
Fell off since cell arc
It was 16..16 made goahn realize sometimes you have to be violent to orotext things and people you love he did say " 16 you loved life and you were just an andriod,no more i wont watch this anymore "
Nah I don’t agree gohan be selling when he locked in here don’t kill anyone
Naah goku enraged is peak. Especially when he fought android 13
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Preach Bro! They be Str8 hoing Piccolo. You pointed out, that he clearly be picking up the other Z-Fighters work. Just think of how many times Piccolo came to Gohan's aid; while Goku just standing there and watching Cell pack up his ONLY son! (Goten wasn't born yet) 😅😂
Aint gonna lie they did vegeta bad in dragon ball z
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Nice yapping