I know this is a small detail but as a disabled person it's SO ablist that he tells the story of a woman who's in deep distress for a long time and he knows she's recovered because she's working. Is she happy? Is she functional? Have the hallucinations stopped? This man is so ablist it's disgusting.
So true! I was working for five years, but was getting worse and worse until I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for months. Just because you try to look "normal" on the outside doesn't mean you're well on the inside.
Thank you! I struggle with depression and anxiety every damn day. And those days that are so hard and all I want to do is stay under the covers, I still get up and go to work. It doesn’t make me “happy” or “recovered”. That guy sucks
There have been hundreds of medical studies done by some of the leading researchers in the country including John Hopkins and Harvard. You really should get your head out of the sand and do some research on your own. Common sense is truly a super power.
There is a local lady who sells this. She just made a live saying how she couldn't really discuss it bc of "Compliance" but she was off all her meds for her "attention" problem. 🤦♀️
@@mirandaspeegle6334 I really don't get why all these MLM's are so cloak and dagger. Why would a company not shout it from the rooftops, if it worked? All the posts on Facebook 'If you want to earn caah' etc. Message me'. No, no, just put it on the post! It's always message me for details. The psychology make me laugh where some people are then interested. I just want them to tell me, without any of the BS
As a mental health professional who is also soon graduating with a master degree in Counseling, I can also confirm that vitamins and minerals will NOT cure mental health disorders. Anti-psychotics, anti-anxiety meds, and mood stabilizers can help with symptoms. Sometimes psychotic symptoms can also stop/go away after a person “ages out” of their disorder once they are an older adult, such as with schizophrenia (I had several clients this happened to.) But such a disgrace this guy is to claim his product can “fix” symptoms of depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, and ADHD. Absolutely not. Edited for spelling
Did anyone else notice that the 3rd level is called executive? That makes you sound really important and high up when you’re actually at the bottom and losing money. So scummy!
They Always use fancy named to make people think they are special and do well even if they are losing money to make them stay in the mlm longer. How people don't notice this, it looks riduculous everyone having some fancy title.
I used to work for an auction house and at one auction there was a basket of essential oils, including a mix labeled Liquid Valium. And no, there was no indication of what was in that mix.
WOW. I have a son with cerebral palsy and a number of special needs. An acquaintance literally recommended this company to me a few weeks ago. I had never heard of it, and I told her no thanks because we worked with his doctors and therapists on his care plan. I didn't even think about it being a MLM. I just didn't really think much of it at all, because people frequently think it is their business to play doctor. It's typically best to ignore, but it gets annoying. This is horrific.
This actually scares the hell out of me. I am diagnosed with MDD and spent a week in inpatient care in 2017 due to an attempt to take my life. I am currently on anti-depressants and have had many years in therapy. I can't imagine being taken off my meds and given this stuff instead.
I have rMDD and it sucks -- it sucks feeling this way over and over for seemingly no reason, it sucks feeling nothing at all, and it ESPECIALLY sucks when people try to take advantage of us for it. Hope you're as well as you can be today. 🖤
@@s0lastsummer7 It does suck. I have rMDD as well. I am old and have had this for over a decade. If I'm on the right meds, all is pretty good. I have been through some rough patches, but the bad days are fewer and far between. I am fortunate and have a good life. My niece is now dealing with it, too. It does get better!
@@s0lastsummer7 I am sorry you deal with this, too. The pandemic has made things difficult, but I haven't reached that lowest point again. Having meds & a good support system helps. I hope you are doing well.
He might as well have had 'GRIFTER' tattooed on his forehead. Ugh. My favorite part was when he said "handicap society" when he meant something more along the lines of "mental health community." 😳 What a tool.
Yessss I’ve been waiting for this one. One of my best friends was scammed by Q sciences during her worst depressive state. She experienced terrible postpartum depression with her first baby and then got pregnant only months later with her second one. She is still struggling with her postpartum depression today but her experience with Q Sciences made it so much worse
I'm 53. Kind of wishing I'd known this info 25 years ago. So many cringey mlm parties in my past. I'm still waking up to the scams. Hopefully you will keep others from parting with their legitimately hard earned money.
They both spew a whole lot of bs. They also both spread misinformation that could be very harmful to a persons mental health. Oh and lack an understanding of science. Theres also the potential to end up a lot worse off financially due to involvement with them. Finally(maybe lol) the people who sign up are prone to delusional thinking plus sadly and often frighteningly gullible. They have a scary habit of turning from 'regular' people into obsessive zombie like creatures. Ohhh myyyy. Its a CULT!!
Same, though! Except that Scientology things even vitamins or things like Tylenol are destructive drugs. Mental disorders also don't exist in their minds.
@@katelyn_oaks Well how did they eat? Food is full of vitamins! My long post is only about Qanon and Q sciences. When i read the comment my brain skipped the scientology bit, or at least it did when i answered lmao. All 3 are CULTS. 🤪
I was invited to one of their zoom meetings today but God in his wisdom, moved on my heart to look it up on RUclips, and you popped up on my phone. I am very glad I did. You are absolutely right about the prices 😜 extremely expensive. So glad you showed up, thank you soon much beautiful 🥰 one
I'm so glad to see this company getting exposed! As a mental health counselor I'm disgusted & appalled by their claims! I hope more people start warning others about this mlm & reporting it as a scam. These health ones are the most dangerous.
As someone who has lived his whole life with adhd and over 5 yrs with severe ocd this is so infuriating to me. THERAPY, and meds, that's what helps. It angers me so much. So predatory
that dude should straight up be in jail, what he was saying was dangerous (& he'd probably be claiming that it cured someone's covid while he was at it)
Loved this one, Chelsea! I'd never heard of Q Sciences until your videos, and you're right, this one has fascinating rabbit holes. An MLM that I'm interested in learning more about is Thirty-One. I have a friend that joined that a little while ago and she pushes it hard, even asking once if I'd like to host a Facebook party to get started. Reminds me of Mary Kay's structure from what little I know of it.
I was asked to try it and it spiked my anxiety to the point I had a panic attack that lasted 7 days. I stopped using the CBD and my anxiety almost immediately started decreasing
CBD and THC can exasperate anxiety in certain people. My friend can't smoke it or have caffeine. Her anxiety spikes so much she ends up in the emergency department.
@@twistedtea4972 Although I had never really used mini CBD products before trying Q sciences, I never had the experience of anxiety with THC but I have not use that in years either so it was very unsettling and not only that the product tasted disgusting so overall really glad I got away from it..
I think pretty common, it gave me awful anxiety too. I definitely don't think you should play with specially THC without a dictor. I know people who have killed themselves. Though it seems to work grest on other people. Makes me Wonder why some get such anxiety
The speech the co founder was giving was making me more and more upset by the second until I couldn't take it anymore. Never in my life have I wanted to hurt someone so bad. It's so disturbing to hear him say all that. Ignoring proper care for mental health can absolutely ruin someone's life or take it away, I have lost most of my life to that so it's beyond upsetting to hear this. This is extremely dangerous and bipolar disorder is periodical, during 30 days it can look fine but it can completely change in 3 months time. I am just beyond in disbelief, abolish these horrific systems.
They 100% know that they are scamming people just to make money. It's so hard for me to understand how someone can scan sick people and knowingly risk their health, bipolär disorder as example is very serious.Is the money really worth it if someone dies because of you? Pure evil, if I just had his face in front of me, clearly the laws are not enough to stop him.
I am so excited for a new deep dive! Haven’t heard much about Q sciences besides what Chelsea has told us in previous videos but I love to get educated!
As a person who has been battling anxiety for 20 plus years, these companies sicken me. Proper medical care and possible medications are the only way to help with mental disorders. Keep up the good fight Chelsea!!
So you'd rather take meds that poison your body. Do you not realize that 75% of all medicines are derived from plants. Then they inject the poison...no thanks. I'll take my chances on natural supplements. At least they don't come with a list of dangerous side effects. Smh
This was an amazing deep dive! So incredibly researched and I had no idea how dangerous these claims actually were until this. Thanks for being our undercover dumpling and doing this for months (!!!!)
The fact that this man claims that his children under the age of 18 are diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder tho…Those literally don’t get diagnosed before the age of 18. It’s part of the DSM. What universe is he living in?
@@ridiculousspider I did think about that. I know schizophrenia is very rarely (but still occasionally) diagnosed before 18. Bipolar is never diagnosed before then though.
I was charged for the app and I tried to contact the corporate office to explain that I wasn’t using the product and has no interest in selling. They refused to refund my money
I’m so sorry to hear that . Q science will fall soon . Just like amway, Mary Kay and Avon and all the others . I know it’s gonna be a huge shock for so many when it does. Very terrible that these big CEO’s of these pyramid schemes just carelessly keep ruining lives.
Someone from my college invited me to a zoom meeting tonight for a "ground floor opportunity" to "work from home" (which I've already been doing for 2 years and apparently she didn't notice lol). It took going through 4 peoples' Facebooks to even discover the company name. This was a great video, and exactly what I was looking for in terms of material to bring up in the meeting to try and prevent others for falling into this trap. :D
Perfect timing. Legit got a message from a guy a 1am “hey how’s it going”, sent this link and he proceeded to talk down to me and say I’ll never have financial freedom because idk what I’m talking about. Little does he know I have no debt.
"after going on Prozac for only two weeks, she [committed suicide] as a result of the medication" it takes a minimum of four weeks of consistent consumption for SSRIs to begin to make any legitimate changes to the brain. most reputable psychiatrists will not make changes to an SSRI prescription until you hit at LEAST the 6-8 week mark because anything before that is way too soon to fully see the effects. this is very common knowledge. edit: another common thing that is important to note is that it is not at all uncommon for suicidality to result from SSRI use. not because SSRIs "break" you, but because they can sometimes lift you out of the "lethargic, staring at a wall for 8 hours" stage of depression, but not lift you far enough to escape the "self-injurious and suicidal" stage of depression. this is also very common knowledge and why close contact with a trusted therapist and loved ones are the first thing that any reputable psychiatric healthcare provider will ensure are in place before starting a new medication.
Thank you so much Chelsea for your in-depth research and fact finding. I always appreciate your deep dives (all of your content, actually), and I absolutely LOATHE companies that thrive on taking advantage of the health and finances of vulnerable individuals. The True Hope claims about that supplement regarding mental health conditions were absolutely disgusting and incredibly dangerous. In all honesty, it infuriates me and I’m spreading the word far and wide. I introduced my best friend to the anti-MLM community on RUclips recently and she’s appalled. She let me know today that she completely purged her social media of all of the “friends” who were taking advantage of her - she literally had NO IDEA that this is how these companies operate, and had fallen victim to many of them. Keep up the great work, Chelsea. We will continue tuning in. And yes! Today I’m wearing my new “Hello, I’m Spicy” t-shirt in purple. I love it and it cracks my husband the hell up.
Gotta be honest, I almost jumped out of my seat when you said Vancouver, BC because that's where I live! I have NEVER heard of this..... That's terrifying!
Earlier this year my SIL followed her Young Living upline and her entire team over to Q Sciences. She’s at her very first Q Sciences Convention as I type this 😣. She was so excited about it. She has never once tried to sell anything to me, nor tried to recruit me which I appreciate. I just hate that she is working for this company because I can tell how passionate she is about it. Thanks for doing this deep dive. I didn’t really know anything at all about them but she was so incredibly excited to start this “new adventure”. Unlike most huns I see in these videos my SIL is the most humble, kindest sweetheart which is why can’t see her being successful in this, yet she continues to stay in it so maybe she’s doing better than I think.
My SIL did the same thing! She was big into young living then followed her upline to Q Sciences! She messaged me and convinced me to join. I tried a couple products the help give me energy and nothing did what it was marketed to do. I returned everything and got my money back, canceled my ambassador membership and got my money back from that as well. The only thing is, when you email the people to cancel your membership, you have to specify that you want your fee refunded or you won't get your money back! She started promoting it and trying to recruit people before trying anything herself! I'm like yea, I'm not selling to anyone before I try it myself! And like I said, nothing worked and I wasn't gonna push sales for stuff that did do what it claimed.
Worsening of depression and even suicidal tendencies are known side effects when starting a medical therapy. That's why it is so important to closely monitor the initial period and maybe even do it in a clinical setting. It doesn't mean medication is bad in general, you might just need to switch to a different one and most side effects subside after a while. Antidepressants have saved my life several times, in fact they do so every single day.
This co-founder is so ignorant. This is a slap in the face to all medical science. Psychiatric and mental health disorders are a constant battle that requires adherence to medication and therapy, which varies from person to person. Medications can take 4-6 weeks to reach full effect. And to think people who aren’t licensed professionals are perpetuating this MLM is baffling.
Yup. I remember starting meds for MDD and GAD and it was the worst couple weeks of my life. Everything was jacked up to the max, but now I’m in a good place.
I actually live in Pleasant Grove right now and have been so curious about this MLM. Glad you're covering it! You're not wrong when you say PG is the epicenter of MLMs either. To get to the interstate, you have to drive past MLMs lining both sides of the road. 😬
i have autism and deppresion and i have an aunt with schizophrenia and bipolar and this is the absolute worst. without meds and councling i would be dead. my aunt and others like her have so much troble with taking their meds and for someone to take advantage of them is disgusting and should be illegal.
Joined last week... Had me so distracted from what I needed to be focused on. There at a "convention" in Dallas as we speak. Pitched as a $ making machine when really they just take as much $ from you as possible!
Thank you for doing the hard research and providing clear insight. So many of us are struggling with a family member who has drunk the "Kool-Aid". They think this is something new and exciting and don't understand just how very unlikely and hard it is to achieve profitability, and after all the hours they will contribute, they will essentially be working for a minimum wage. There are better opportunities out there, find them and go make it happen! Best of luck.
I was a mental health therapist for 11 years and I’m so livid at these TruHope people. What. The. Fuck?! I live near where these guys do and sadly, the ignorance of mental health issues/treatment is rampant and unbelievable. Thanks for lifting the curtain on this company.
Ah 5pm Friday and have this then Julie Jo to watch Ugh as someone with Bipolar 1 that man made me really angry. Firstly, whichever doctor put someone with Bipolar on Prozac is so in the wrong. Anti Depressants alone should NEVER be used in Bipolar or suspected Bipolar. Also, I hate hate hate taking the meds I take but I know what happens when I don't (generally sectioned in hosp with mania) but would I swap those meds for some MLM pills...erm it's a hard no from me!
This is so frustrating. Yes, nutrition is crucial to health, including mental health. Just as a good sleep habit aids your functioning, as does fresh air and exercise. And a supplement can be useful because many people with mental health problems also have executive problems due to the aforementioned problems. Meaning they can't always get all their nutrition from their food, and a supplement boosts that and can help maintain stability. But lifestyle improvements are to be used next to treatment, not replace them. You want both, you can have both. And get your supplements from reputable sources, don't overpay for crappy, low-absorption pills you pee out anyway.
A. Your hair looks fantastic here B. It makes sense that Q Sciences has the best comp plan since one is 10% more likely to make money in a straight pyramid scheme than in the average MLM
I was raised Mormon and left last year after 28 years. Feeding your kids vitamins to fix mental health issues just.. makes sense in a Mormon context. Yikes. YIKES. This is so disturbing.
Been binge watching your videos and you’re awesome for bringing awareness to these MLM’s!I have a really good friend that is Completely under Qscience spell And when I mentioned to him he should watch your videos he said all those companies will actually pay You-tubers to talk dirt about another one on their channels! He’s completely brainwashed and going in debt fast!!
This stuff makes me sick. I can’t help but think about all the families affected by the bs of mlms. how many single moms go broke trying to provide for their kids but instead get scammed and taken advantage of.
I wish I knew about you and watched this before I wasted my time joining Q. It was pitched so well to me and as someone who struggles with mental health conditions - it was obviously appealing. Then I realized how expensive it was and how I was making $0 because I don’t recruit. I am a seller and sell products I believe in. I had so much hope for these products that I joined because if y experience was as amazing as everyone else’s that I knew doing Q, I wanted to share and make money. These people KNEW I was not a recruiter but left out that there was no way to make money unless I recruit. They recently added a plan where you can make money without recruiting but I can’t sell the products because I haven’t had this life changing experience that was pitched to me. I actually was wanting to wean off of my anxiety meds but in the process of doing that and trying some Q products, I didn’t notice a damn thing other than the fact that my medicine actually worked more than I realized so I’m going back in them. Anyway - I’m so annoyed with myself and am thankful I found you so I don’t fall into this crap again. I am part of another MLM and had a bad experience with my upline but the products have actually made changes that I can see and feel, but I’ve backed off of pushing it and just stick with my returning customers and figure an extra $200-$250 a month is nice. I just had to realize I wasn’t getting rich because recruiting is icky to me.
Omg! If I knew you were doing a deep dive on true hope/q science, I would have given you my horror stories. I worked in a store that sold them AND live in Lethbridge! Hahhaah
Just found out my old upline is leaving It Works which made me super happy for her, only to then realize by decoding some things lol that she's going to Q sciences...😒😩
Since you mentioned modere I noticed that Gretchen Rossi (former rhoc housewife) who used to be with monat was repping modere products in her story the other day…
The number one rule for discovering if an MLM is 100% a pyramid is if they focus more on recruiting than on selling the product. You’ve literally become Bernie Madoff at that point? So unethical and disgusting!
Very helpful. Ty. You do a nice job of explaining things which like I said is very helpful. I attended an opportunity Call and decided recruiting isn’t for me. Phew.
Q science has swept through my island home of Guam 🇬🇺 and it’s very tragic. I see so many People hopping on the bandwagon and it’s getting nuts. I grew up in the Amway era when my parents got really into it in the 90’s and since seeing how destructive it can be I always watch out for companies like that. I’ve seen countless MLM pyramid schemes become so big here in the place I live that I roll my eyes when a new one comes up . I can smell them a mile away. I’m glad I took mental notes as a child that now I know Immediately when I see one coming up. Young living oils, Lipscense, Monat, beach body, avon, Mary kay, lemongrass skin spa, Melaluca & many others . I just can’t even believe people still get crazy about joining these companies after years of seeing others become mega hype and then fail . Idk when people will learn. I pray more will see the real life damages these MLM’s do. THANK YOU for these videos !!! Q Science is most definitely a terrible pyramid scheme. So so sad.
I grew up with my parents in Amway and feel like my childhood was stolen from me. The only time our family went on trips was for Amway conventions and me and my siblings literally stayed in the hotel room the whole time watching tv. My parents wasted so much time and Money in the stupid business that we barely did anything as a family. They’re so cult like it makes me sick and they prey on well meaning moms mostly who want to be at home with their kids. Sad stuff.
These supplements and their claims are so scary. Mental illness is so serious and needs to be treated properly by professionals. It's hard to imagine all of the individuals who took these supplements and ended up worse due to ineffective treatment.
Please look into ID Life! My daughters grandmother is one of the higher ups, and she is forever trying to recruit me! I feel like they are just sooooo shady! Love you and your channel sis! ❤❤❤❤
Every MLM claims that their products are the gold standard in the industry, yet no one has heard of them outside of their reps. Make it make sense!
I know this is a small detail but as a disabled person it's SO ablist that he tells the story of a woman who's in deep distress for a long time and he knows she's recovered because she's working. Is she happy? Is she functional? Have the hallucinations stopped? This man is so ablist it's disgusting.
Not a small detail at all. This is important and very valid.
So true! I was working for five years, but was getting worse and worse until I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for months. Just because you try to look "normal" on the outside doesn't mean you're well on the inside.
Thank you! I struggle with depression and anxiety every damn day. And those days that are so hard and all I want to do is stay under the covers, I still get up and go to work. It doesn’t make me “happy” or “recovered”. That guy sucks
There have been hundreds of medical studies done by some of the leading researchers in the country including John Hopkins and Harvard. You really should get your head out of the sand and do some research on your own. Common sense is truly a super power.
@@kathydopke8014 are these peer reviewed controlled studies? Please link some for us to read or at least tell us what to search to find them.
Telling people to come off their meds while not being their doctor is absolutely disgusting.
Disgusting and dangerous
There is a local lady who sells this. She just made a live saying how she couldn't really discuss it bc of "Compliance" but she was off all her meds for her "attention" problem. 🤦♀️
@@mirandaspeegle6334 I really don't get why all these MLM's are so cloak and dagger. Why would a company not shout it from the rooftops, if it worked? All the posts on Facebook 'If you want to earn caah' etc. Message me'. No, no, just put it on the post! It's always message me for details. The psychology make me laugh where some people are then interested. I just want them to tell me, without any of the BS
they say that for real? whoa, that's only something a doc should supervise and even then, it's extremely dangerous.
As a mental health professional who is also soon graduating with a master degree in Counseling, I can also confirm that vitamins and minerals will NOT cure mental health disorders. Anti-psychotics, anti-anxiety meds, and mood stabilizers can help with symptoms. Sometimes psychotic symptoms can also stop/go away after a person “ages out” of their disorder once they are an older adult, such as with schizophrenia (I had several clients this happened to.)
But such a disgrace this guy is to claim his product can “fix” symptoms of depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, and ADHD. Absolutely not.
Edited for spelling
Nothing was ever said about fixing. It stated it could help.
Did anyone else notice that the 3rd level is called executive? That makes you sound really important and high up when you’re actually at the bottom and losing money. So scummy!
They Always use fancy named to make people think they are special and do well even if they are losing money to make them stay in the mlm longer. How people don't notice this, it looks riduculous everyone having some fancy title.
Yes I agree. Pure scum! I hate that so many people are deceived .
Ingesting something called "True Hope" is literally the most culty sh!t I've ever heard
I used to work for an auction house and at one auction there was a basket of essential oils, including a mix labeled Liquid Valium.
And no, there was no indication of what was in that mix.
Reminds me a lot of taking your “Joy” in We Happy Few. Probably anything named like these are a bad idea, at least when it’s not approved by doctors.
I’m sitting here wondering why this rabbit hole is so interesting and disturbing. And then you say Mormons and it all makes sense to me.
WOW. I have a son with cerebral palsy and a number of special needs. An acquaintance literally recommended this company to me a few weeks ago. I had never heard of it, and I told her no thanks because we worked with his doctors and therapists on his care plan.
I didn't even think about it being a MLM. I just didn't really think much of it at all, because people frequently think it is their business to play doctor. It's typically best to ignore, but it gets annoying.
This is horrific.
This actually scares the hell out of me. I am diagnosed with MDD and spent a week in inpatient care in 2017 due to an attempt to take my life. I am currently on anti-depressants and have had many years in therapy. I can't imagine being taken off my meds and given this stuff instead.
Hope you are doing better. I can relate; having been in a similar scary place a few times. There are more of us than u might think. :)
I have rMDD and it sucks -- it sucks feeling this way over and over for seemingly no reason, it sucks feeling nothing at all, and it ESPECIALLY sucks when people try to take advantage of us for it. Hope you're as well as you can be today. 🖤
@@s0lastsummer7 It does suck. I have rMDD as well. I am old and have had this for over a decade. If I'm on the right meds, all is pretty good. I have been through some rough patches, but the bad days are fewer and far between. I am fortunate and have a good life. My niece is now dealing with it, too. It does get better!
@@wombatnumbat989 I am better now. I stay on my meds and keep my psychiatry & therapist appointments. I hope you are doing well.
@@s0lastsummer7 I am sorry you deal with this, too. The pandemic has made things difficult, but I haven't reached that lowest point again. Having meds & a good support system helps. I hope you are doing well.
All I can think is how Jessie Lee would love that dudes story telling 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He might as well have had 'GRIFTER' tattooed on his forehead. Ugh.
My favorite part was when he said "handicap society" when he meant something more along the lines of "mental health community." 😳
What a tool.
well we learned after all that facts tell and stories sell 🤣🤣🤣
Yessss I’ve been waiting for this one. One of my best friends was scammed by Q sciences during her worst depressive state. She experienced terrible postpartum depression with her first baby and then got pregnant only months later with her second one. She is still struggling with her postpartum depression today but her experience with Q Sciences made it so much worse
I’d like to thank you and Julie Jo for not scheduling your premieres at the same time lol. Because I want to watch both.
Hehe same!
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thats my girllllllll :)
I'm 53. Kind of wishing I'd known this info 25 years ago. So many cringey mlm parties in my past. I'm still waking up to the scams. Hopefully you will keep others from parting with their legitimately hard earned money.
Lowkey I always thought Qsciences was the same as Qanon, or was the overlap between Qanon and Scientology 😂
They both spew a whole lot of bs. They also both spread misinformation that could be very harmful to a persons mental health. Oh and lack an understanding of science. Theres also the potential to end up a lot worse off financially due to involvement with them.
Finally(maybe lol) the people who sign up are prone to delusional thinking plus sadly and often frighteningly gullible. They have a scary habit of turning from 'regular' people into obsessive zombie like creatures.
Ohhh myyyy. Its a CULT!!
Same, though! Except that Scientology things even vitamins or things like Tylenol are destructive drugs. Mental disorders also don't exist in their minds.
@@katelyn_oaks Scientology has no problem with vitamins lol. They have a problem with ANY thing involving psychiatry
@@snooganslestat2030 the ones I dealt with didn't. But of course, I can't speak for the millions of Scientologists. lol
@@katelyn_oaks Well how did they eat? Food is full of vitamins!
My long post is only about Qanon and Q sciences. When i read the comment my brain skipped the scientology bit, or at least it did when i answered lmao.
All 3 are CULTS. 🤪
I was invited to one of their zoom meetings today but God in his wisdom, moved on my heart to look it up on RUclips, and you popped up on my phone. I am very glad I did. You are absolutely right about the prices 😜 extremely expensive. So glad you showed up, thank you soon much beautiful 🥰 one
I'm so glad to see this company getting exposed! As a mental health counselor I'm disgusted & appalled by their claims! I hope more people start warning others about this mlm & reporting it as a scam. These health ones are the most dangerous.
As someone who has lived his whole life with adhd and over 5 yrs with severe ocd this is so infuriating to me. THERAPY, and meds, that's what helps. It angers me so much. So predatory
that dude should straight up be in jail, what he was saying was dangerous (& he'd probably be claiming that it cured someone's covid while he was at it)
Loved this one, Chelsea! I'd never heard of Q Sciences until your videos, and you're right, this one has fascinating rabbit holes.
An MLM that I'm interested in learning more about is Thirty-One. I have a friend that joined that a little while ago and she pushes it hard, even asking once if I'd like to host a Facebook party to get started. Reminds me of Mary Kay's structure from what little I know of it.
Am I the only one who felt grossed out by "suicided" ?
I was angry about that terminology. I lost my best friend to suicide. "Suicided" is just...a big yikes.
Yes!!! When he said it, it was like he didn’t even care.
They’re at conference this weekend so what perfect timing!
Aww another super spreading mlm conference! How wonderful 🙄
LITERALLY watching this in front of their HQ in Pleasant Grove Utah! Hahaha - My wax appointment is in the same big building. OMG
Love that hahah
I was asked to try it and it spiked my anxiety to the point I had a panic attack that lasted 7 days. I stopped using the CBD and my anxiety almost immediately started decreasing
CBD and THC can exasperate anxiety in certain people. My friend can't smoke it or have caffeine. Her anxiety spikes so much she ends up in the emergency department.
@@twistedtea4972 Although I had never really used mini CBD products before trying Q sciences, I never had the experience of anxiety with THC but I have not use that in years either so it was very unsettling and not only that the product tasted disgusting so overall really glad I got away from it..
@@twistedtea4972 I can’t smoke either. I get bad panic attacks
I think pretty common, it gave me awful anxiety too. I definitely don't think you should play with specially THC without a dictor. I know people who have killed themselves. Though it seems to work grest on other people. Makes me Wonder why some get such anxiety
The speech the co founder was giving was making me more and more upset by the second until I couldn't take it anymore. Never in my life have I wanted to hurt someone so bad. It's so disturbing to hear him say all that. Ignoring proper care for mental health can absolutely ruin someone's life or take it away, I have lost most of my life to that so it's beyond upsetting to hear this. This is extremely dangerous and bipolar disorder is periodical, during 30 days it can look fine but it can completely change in 3 months time. I am just beyond in disbelief, abolish these horrific systems.
They 100% know that they are scamming people just to make money. It's so hard for me to understand how someone can scan sick people and knowingly risk their health, bipolär disorder as example is very serious.Is the money really worth it if someone dies because of you? Pure evil, if I just had his face in front of me, clearly the laws are not enough to stop him.
*Woot woot got my reminder set* 😏
_Looks like it’s gonna be a spicy Friday_ 🖤
I am so excited for a new deep dive! Haven’t heard much about Q sciences besides what Chelsea has told us in previous videos but I love to get educated!
Check out the video on their compensation plan.
Any research on modere?
As a person who has been battling anxiety for 20 plus years, these companies sicken me. Proper medical care and possible medications are the only way to help with mental disorders. Keep up the good fight Chelsea!!
Right
I am curious, have you tested anything else beside medical care?
Girl, me too
Proper medical treatment including poisons with side effects a mile long? Yeah, that's real smart.....
So you'd rather take meds that poison your body. Do you not realize that 75% of all medicines are derived from plants. Then they inject the poison...no thanks. I'll take my chances on natural supplements. At least they don't come with a list of dangerous side effects. Smh
This answers all the doubts I had, thank you.
6 out of 9 children in a deeply religious household suffering from mental illness.
Well I never would have guessed.
This was an amazing deep dive! So incredibly researched and I had no idea how dangerous these claims actually were until this. Thanks for being our undercover dumpling and doing this for months (!!!!)
Excellent video, Chelsea! You really do your research and that helps so many people 💖
This is a new one to me! I LOVE when you touch on scams I haven’t heard of.
The fact that this man claims that his children under the age of 18 are diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder tho…Those literally don’t get diagnosed before the age of 18. It’s part of the DSM. What universe is he living in?
I was thinking the same thing!
What about early-onset schizophrenia? (Not defending the guy because ew..no.) Genuine question.
@@ridiculousspider I did think about that. I know schizophrenia is very rarely (but still occasionally) diagnosed before 18. Bipolar is never diagnosed before then though.
Thanks for clarifying. 💚
MLM Land
I have been waiting SO LONG for someone to cover Q Sciences! A top earner from Plexus that I know switched to Q in 2020.
I was charged for the app and I tried to contact the corporate office to explain that I wasn’t using the product and has no interest in selling. They refused to refund my money
I’m so sorry to hear that . Q science will fall soon . Just like amway, Mary Kay and Avon and all the others . I know it’s gonna be a huge shock for so many when it does. Very terrible that these big CEO’s of these pyramid schemes just carelessly keep ruining lives.
Someone from my college invited me to a zoom meeting tonight for a "ground floor opportunity" to "work from home" (which I've already been doing for 2 years and apparently she didn't notice lol). It took going through 4 peoples' Facebooks to even discover the company name. This was a great video, and exactly what I was looking for in terms of material to bring up in the meeting to try and prevent others for falling into this trap. :D
Exactly what is the trap?
@@coleandrews25 Probably the trap of claiming they have a work from home opportunity for you, when in reality it’s an MLM and not an actual job.
Perfect timing. Legit got a message from a guy a 1am “hey how’s it going”, sent this link and he proceeded to talk down to me and say I’ll never have financial freedom because idk what I’m talking about. Little does he know I have no debt.
"after going on Prozac for only two weeks, she [committed suicide] as a result of the medication" it takes a minimum of four weeks of consistent consumption for SSRIs to begin to make any legitimate changes to the brain. most reputable psychiatrists will not make changes to an SSRI prescription until you hit at LEAST the 6-8 week mark because anything before that is way too soon to fully see the effects. this is very common knowledge.
edit: another common thing that is important to note is that it is not at all uncommon for suicidality to result from SSRI use. not because SSRIs "break" you, but because they can sometimes lift you out of the "lethargic, staring at a wall for 8 hours" stage of depression, but not lift you far enough to escape the "self-injurious and suicidal" stage of depression. this is also very common knowledge and why close contact with a trusted therapist and loved ones are the first thing that any reputable psychiatric healthcare provider will ensure are in place before starting a new medication.
Jesse Lee would be clapping and screaming with that old guy’s story 🤣🤣🤣
wow ok queen of documentaries 👏
Thank you so much Chelsea for your in-depth research and fact finding. I always appreciate your deep dives (all of your content, actually), and I absolutely LOATHE companies that thrive on taking advantage of the health and finances of vulnerable individuals.
The True Hope claims about that supplement regarding mental health conditions were absolutely disgusting and incredibly dangerous. In all honesty, it infuriates me and I’m spreading the word far and wide. I introduced my best friend to the anti-MLM community on RUclips recently and she’s appalled. She let me know today that she completely purged her social media of all of the “friends” who were taking advantage of her - she literally had NO IDEA that this is how these companies operate, and had fallen victim to many of them. Keep up the great work, Chelsea. We will continue tuning in. And yes! Today I’m wearing my new “Hello, I’m Spicy” t-shirt in purple. I love it and it cracks my husband the hell up.
Amber!!! thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
mental illness doesn't go away with anything offered by an MLM. See a doctor and get the symptoms managed
Dang it! Missed the live chat. I have been loving those lately when you post new videos.
every time I hear a deep dive its always a mormon starting an MLM that's crazy to me
Mormons are used to cultish behaviors. JS
Professor CC educating us again!!! 🤓🎉
Gotta be honest, I almost jumped out of my seat when you said Vancouver, BC because that's where I live! I have NEVER heard of this..... That's terrifying!
I’ve been waiting forever for this one! My social media has bombarded with this nonsense lately. 🤔
Great job, love. It shows that you put so much effort and time into this. 😘
How exciting about Good Clean Wine sponsoring this video!!
Wow. You put a LOT of work into this video. I'm very impressed.
Thank you!!!!
Earlier this year my SIL followed her Young Living upline and her entire team over to Q Sciences. She’s at her very first Q Sciences Convention as I type this 😣. She was so excited about it. She has never once tried to sell anything to me, nor tried to recruit me which I appreciate. I just hate that she is working for this company because I can tell how passionate she is about it. Thanks for doing this deep dive. I didn’t really know anything at all about them but she was so incredibly excited to start this “new adventure”. Unlike most huns I see in these videos my SIL is the most humble, kindest sweetheart which is why can’t see her being successful in this, yet she continues to stay in it so maybe she’s doing better than I think.
@@jackyorrick5512 do you know anything about the success rates in MLMs? Apparently you don’t or else you would understand why I said what I said.
My SIL did the same thing! She was big into young living then followed her upline to Q Sciences! She messaged me and convinced me to join. I tried a couple products the help give me energy and nothing did what it was marketed to do. I returned everything and got my money back, canceled my ambassador membership and got my money back from that as well. The only thing is, when you email the people to cancel your membership, you have to specify that you want your fee refunded or you won't get your money back!
She started promoting it and trying to recruit people before trying anything herself! I'm like yea, I'm not selling to anyone before I try it myself! And like I said, nothing worked and I wasn't gonna push sales for stuff that did do what it claimed.
@@tmkmakeup1171 Just wanted to say that my wife has a receding hairline that has started regrowing from their Reform Collagen.
Worsening of depression and even suicidal tendencies are known side effects when starting a medical therapy. That's why it is so important to closely monitor the initial period and maybe even do it in a clinical setting. It doesn't mean medication is bad in general, you might just need to switch to a different one and most side effects subside after a while. Antidepressants have saved my life several times, in fact they do so every single day.
This co-founder is so ignorant. This is a slap in the face to all medical science. Psychiatric and mental health disorders are a constant battle that requires adherence to medication and therapy, which varies from person to person. Medications can take 4-6 weeks to reach full effect. And to think people who aren’t licensed professionals are perpetuating this MLM is baffling.
Right??? To use his dead wife and family trauma and medical issues to push his snake oil is sickening
Yup. I remember starting meds for MDD and GAD and it was the worst couple weeks of my life. Everything was jacked up to the max, but now I’m in a good place.
Yes! I wouldn't be here without my antidepressants either. Absolutely horrifying thinking of substituting medicine with vitamins 😱
If you have to _ask_ if something is a pyramid scheme... it's probably a pyramid scheme.
Companies like this make me so mad, with these false claims especially as a nurse.
GOD why are all these stupid freaking MLMs in my state!? So freaking embarrassing.
I actually live in Pleasant Grove right now and have been so curious about this MLM. Glad you're covering it!
You're not wrong when you say PG is the epicenter of MLMs either. To get to the interstate, you have to drive past MLMs lining both sides of the road. 😬
i have autism and deppresion and i have an aunt with schizophrenia and bipolar and this is the absolute worst. without meds and councling i would be dead. my aunt and others like her have so much troble with taking their meds and for someone to take advantage of them is disgusting and should be illegal.
My wife has never been told that these products will cure mental illness or any illness!
It's finally lunch time and I get to watch!
This is making me so angry I can't even watch it all at once. I'm literally having to step away.
Why spend all that money a month to get just $50 back... this sh*ts wild
Joined last week... Had me so distracted from what I needed to be focused on. There at a "convention" in Dallas as we speak. Pitched as a $ making machine when really they just take as much $ from you as possible!
Are you going to get out? I hope you do!
@@IAMCCSuarez I did about 2 hours ago. Thank you for your help and research!
@@daveelitz2492 not to sound cheesy but I am very very proud of you!!!!
@@IAMCCSuarez That's not cheesy. Words of Affirmation is my love language 🤣. Proud of you too lol 👊
This is the most insidious mlm I’ve ever seen- this man should be in Jail
I wish you would have made this video before I joined Q earlier in 2021. Super interesting video! Love the deep dive.
Same…except I joined after she made this (stupidly) ignoring all the red flags.
As a person with a disability and a mental health professional there are so many things wrong here!
So many high ranking people are leaving it works to go here.
Thank you for doing the hard research and providing clear insight. So many of us are struggling with a family member who has drunk the "Kool-Aid". They think this is something new and exciting and don't understand just how very unlikely and hard it is to achieve profitability, and after all the hours they will contribute, they will essentially be working for a minimum wage. There are better opportunities out there, find them and go make it happen! Best of luck.
I was a mental health therapist for 11 years and I’m so livid at these TruHope people. What. The. Fuck?! I live near where these guys do and sadly, the ignorance of mental health issues/treatment is rampant and unbelievable. Thanks for lifting the curtain on this company.
I'm doing a research paper on MLM's and I'm using your videos as part of my research 😁💝 love yew!!
Ah 5pm Friday and have this then Julie Jo to watch
Ugh as someone with Bipolar 1 that man made me really angry. Firstly, whichever doctor put someone with Bipolar on Prozac is so in the wrong. Anti Depressants alone should NEVER be used in Bipolar or suspected Bipolar. Also, I hate hate hate taking the meds I take but I know what happens when I don't (generally sectioned in hosp with mania) but would I swap those meds for some MLM pills...erm it's a hard no from me!
This is so frustrating. Yes, nutrition is crucial to health, including mental health. Just as a good sleep habit aids your functioning, as does fresh air and exercise. And a supplement can be useful because many people with mental health problems also have executive problems due to the aforementioned problems. Meaning they can't always get all their nutrition from their food, and a supplement boosts that and can help maintain stability. But lifestyle improvements are to be used next to treatment, not replace them. You want both, you can have both. And get your supplements from reputable sources, don't overpay for crappy, low-absorption pills you pee out anyway.
Omgosh I almost joined Q sciences this week something in my spirit aid hold off and I come across your video thank you ♥️
Thank god !!
Ive been wanting more info on Q science ! A bunch of girls on my Facebook are jumping on this trend and it had MLM written all over it. Eye eye eye
The biggest MLMs are the one with a CEO at the top.
We love Sherlock Chelsea going undercover!
Would love to see a video of you going after the celebrities shilling MLM products.
I have started that. I have a series called Unethical Influencers.
Love this video!!! Thank you!
It’s heartbreaking that people who are looking for a solution to something they are dealing with get sucked into these things.
So ready for this vid!!
A. Your hair looks fantastic here
B. It makes sense that Q Sciences has the best comp plan since one is 10% more likely to make money in a straight pyramid scheme than in the average MLM
I was raised Mormon and left last year after 28 years. Feeding your kids vitamins to fix mental health issues just.. makes sense in a Mormon context. Yikes. YIKES. This is so disturbing.
Been binge watching your videos and you’re awesome for bringing awareness to these MLM’s!I have a really good friend that is Completely under Qscience spell And when I mentioned to him he should watch your videos he said all those companies will actually pay You-tubers to talk dirt about another one on their channels! He’s completely brainwashed and going in debt fast!!
I sure hope your friend got out of this scammy business.
This stuff makes me sick. I can’t help but think about all the families affected by the bs of mlms. how many single moms go broke trying to provide for their kids but instead get scammed and taken advantage of.
Excited for this deep dive!!
I would love to try Good Clean Wine, but the shipping is so much. Maybe someday I’ll splurge.
I have waiting for this video👏👏👏 so excited to watch!
I wish I knew about you and watched this before I wasted my time joining Q. It was pitched so well to me and as someone who struggles with mental health conditions - it was obviously appealing. Then I realized how expensive it was and how I was making $0 because I don’t recruit. I am a seller and sell products I believe in. I had so much hope for these products that I joined because if y experience was as amazing as everyone else’s that I knew doing Q, I wanted to share and make money. These people KNEW I was not a recruiter but left out that there was no way to make money unless I recruit. They recently added a plan where you can make money without recruiting but I can’t sell the products because I haven’t had this life changing experience that was pitched to me. I actually was wanting to wean off of my anxiety meds but in the process of doing that and trying some Q products, I didn’t notice a damn thing other than the fact that my medicine actually worked more than I realized so I’m going back in them. Anyway - I’m so annoyed with myself and am thankful I found you so I don’t fall into this crap again. I am part of another MLM and had a bad experience with my upline but the products have actually made changes that I can see and feel, but I’ve backed off of pushing it and just stick with my returning customers and figure an extra $200-$250 a month is nice. I just had to realize I wasn’t getting rich because recruiting is icky to me.
I'm not even half way through..... Wow.... These people are dangerous.
Congrats on the Good Clean Wine sponsorship!!!🥳🥳🥳
Omg! If I knew you were doing a deep dive on true hope/q science, I would have given you my horror stories. I worked in a store that sold them AND live in Lethbridge! Hahhaah
Just found out my old upline is leaving It Works which made me super happy for her, only to then realize by decoding some things lol that she's going to Q sciences...😒😩
Just ordered 1 bottle of the rose with your code. Can't wait to try it.👍👍👍
Since you mentioned modere I noticed that Gretchen Rossi (former rhoc housewife) who used to be with monat was repping modere products in her story the other day…
The number one rule for discovering if an MLM is 100% a pyramid is if they focus more on recruiting than on selling the product. You’ve literally become Bernie Madoff at that point? So unethical and disgusting!
Good clean wine: "No downlines" 🤣🤣🤣
Very helpful. Ty. You do a nice job of explaining things which like I said is very helpful. I attended an opportunity Call and decided recruiting isn’t for me. Phew.
Then continue to slave away making money for other businesses OR buy a franchise for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Q science has swept through my island home of Guam 🇬🇺 and it’s very tragic. I see so many People hopping on the bandwagon and it’s getting nuts. I grew up in the Amway era when my parents got really into it in the 90’s and since seeing how destructive it can be I always watch out for companies like that. I’ve seen countless MLM pyramid schemes become so big here in the place I live that I roll my eyes when a new one comes up . I can smell them a mile away. I’m glad I took mental notes as a child that now I know
Immediately when I see one coming up. Young living oils, Lipscense, Monat, beach body, avon, Mary kay, lemongrass skin spa, Melaluca & many others . I just can’t even believe people still get crazy about joining these companies after years of seeing others become mega hype and then fail . Idk when people will learn. I pray more will see the real life damages these MLM’s do. THANK YOU for these videos !!! Q Science is most definitely a terrible pyramid scheme. So so sad.
I grew up with my parents in Amway and feel like my childhood was stolen from me. The only time our family went on trips was for Amway conventions and me and my siblings literally stayed in the hotel room the whole time watching tv. My parents wasted so much time and Money in the stupid business that we barely did anything as a family. They’re so cult like it makes me sick and they prey on well meaning moms mostly who want to be at home with their kids. Sad stuff.
Have you done a Younique deep dive?! I also need more Farmasi videos cause these huns won't leave me alone!!
These supplements and their claims are so scary. Mental illness is so serious and needs to be treated properly by professionals. It's hard to imagine all of the individuals who took these supplements and ended up worse due to ineffective treatment.
You should do a deep dive on Black Oxygen Organics. People are making their pets and kids really sick feeding them that crap.
Please look into ID Life! My daughters grandmother is one of the higher ups, and she is forever trying to recruit me! I feel like they are just sooooo shady! Love you and your channel sis! ❤❤❤❤
Oh yikes!
Yesssss! I have been waiting for this 😁
watching this again because my friend just signed on with q sciences and the messages have already started flooding in.... 🥵😔