I'm not surprised that the lower clocked Ti200 can match or beat the GF2 Ti in higher resolutions and/or 32-bit color, since it has what NVIDIA called Lightspeed Memory Architecture which greatly helped memory bandwidth efficiency. Essentially NV20 had multi-channel pipelined memory addressing, whereas NV15 had basically one large memory bus that could only do one operation at a time. It's an interesting match-up though because SGRAM has some pretty nifty performance enhancements for graphics operations, helping somewhat off-set the GF2 architecture's relative inefficiency. Fun video!
The Geforce 2 Ti was a 180-150mm die shrink, but it looks like the Kelvin architecture was always 150mm - and the Geforce 3 Ti200 was a sneaky underclock to use poorly binned chips
I wasn't a PC gamer at this point in time and the naming is pretty confusing. nVidia really love doing that don't they? Just naming cards whatever they feel like regardless of performance relative to their own cards.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Probabaly why I was always chose red or other until recently. Think the only nvidea I had back then was a riva 128 and that came with a dell.
I really liked the GF 3 TI200 and GF 4 TI4200 back in the day because they had acceptable prices and could be overclocked to the speed of their bigger and more expensive brothers the TI500 and TI4600.
Unless you oc a 1 core cpu the pc will run into a cpu bottleneck pretty fast. If you get nearly the same results no matter the resolution my guess would be that is what happening. But hard to know for sure without some overlay like riva tuner can give or a 2nd monitor for stats. Also in all my benchmarks the newest drivers always seem to perform worse, even with newer cards like geforce 6000 series, but can have added features like a temp reading etc.
@@66mhzbrain Yeah sure but the results speak for themselves and i have no way of judging how well your setup works, if you installed all the motherboard drivers and disabled all unneeded ports, what chipset it uses, if a sound card was involved etc. Just "Its a 2.6 ghz p4." isn't saying all that much. Im not saying its that, im just offering an idea. What you do with it is yours.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Ive never run into this kind of thing before, I just went modern when I read they had to change the driver to get the most out of the gf 3, they did seem to work better as you go back.
I'm not surprised that the lower clocked Ti200 can match or beat the GF2 Ti in higher resolutions and/or 32-bit color, since it has what NVIDIA called Lightspeed Memory Architecture which greatly helped memory bandwidth efficiency. Essentially NV20 had multi-channel pipelined memory addressing, whereas NV15 had basically one large memory bus that could only do one operation at a time. It's an interesting match-up though because SGRAM has some pretty nifty performance enhancements for graphics operations, helping somewhat off-set the GF2 architecture's relative inefficiency. Fun video!
Cool to know! Definately need to do this again overclocked 😁 love your vids, make more soon!
Both of these cards were really nice for their time. These values are great for a 75 or 85 hz refresh rate, which would have been common back then.
Yes they both look nice on the 75hz lcd I was using.
The Geforce 2 Ti was a 180-150mm die shrink, but it looks like the Kelvin architecture was always 150mm - and the Geforce 3 Ti200 was a sneaky underclock to use poorly binned chips
Yes, though from what I've read they overclock pretty well.
I wasn't a PC gamer at this point in time and the naming is pretty confusing. nVidia really love doing that don't they? Just naming cards whatever they feel like regardless of performance relative to their own cards.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Probabaly why I was always chose red or other until recently. Think the only nvidea I had back then was a riva 128 and that came with a dell.
I really liked the GF 3 TI200 and GF 4 TI4200 back in the day because they had acceptable prices and could be overclocked to the speed of their bigger and more expensive brothers the TI500 and TI4600.
Cool, yes I was reading they overclock really well. I might give it a go 😁
I still remember getting my geforce 3 ti200 and playing morrowind. Great times.
Cool, its a nice card 😁
Unless you oc a 1 core cpu the pc will run into a cpu bottleneck pretty fast. If you get nearly the same results no matter the resolution my guess would be that is what happening. But hard to know for sure without some overlay like riva tuner can give or a 2nd monitor for stats. Also in all my benchmarks the newest drivers always seem to perform worse, even with newer cards like geforce 6000 series, but can have added features like a temp reading etc.
Its a 2.6 ghz p4.
@@66mhzbrain Yeah sure but the results speak for themselves and i have no way of judging how well your setup works, if you installed all the motherboard drivers and disabled all unneeded ports, what chipset it uses, if a sound card was involved etc. Just "Its a 2.6 ghz p4." isn't saying all that much. Im not saying its that, im just offering an idea. What you do with it is yours.
You pretty much always want to go with the older driver set for nvidia...I use 45.23 or 56.64 for anything FX series or older.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Ive never run into this kind of thing before, I just went modern when I read they had to change the driver to get the most out of the gf 3, they did seem to work better as you go back.
Bro you are a bit late
It's never too late 😁
maybe you could be less boring
Hah, some people just cant help themselves😁 move right along!