Reality is annoying, but lets recap on what made OPEN-AI famous, it was that they hired 10,000 english speakers in Africa $2/day to do sentiment on 100's of millions of lines of english text; "Homosexual relations are good" positive sentiment "Heterosexual relationships are bad, create unwanted preggys", postive sentiment "White lives matter, bad "Black lives matter", Good They trained their AI with these filters and PRESTO woke AI was born, OpenAI became KING and all liberal work governments on earth called OPEN-AI and "Sam Altman" the one true god; Then Trump wins, and suddenly like a star-wars movie darkness falls over the entire WOKE agenda When 'WOKE' ruled the world it was Emperors New Clothes paradigm, ChatGPT was 'god' cuz they said so, and no rational woke person would question this assertion; Now suddenly the non-woke are back in power and calling out the woke AI for what it is, GARBAGE;
A *very sad news* for anyone wanting to keep AI free and accessible : I just tried to download and register for Deepseek. It downloaded fine. But it wouldn't allow me register. When I asked why, *the official response from Deepseek was they are under a massive large-scale attack. And so they'll "temporarily" suspend all new registrations.* Sad. Now I can't register!!!🤕
@@Ricer-b4n they don't need to run this locally, deepseek's API is very affordable. And their webchat is free. But, if you are gonna start the 'CCP holding my data' concern, then use Huggingface chat, it's got the distilled version on it for free. Or wait a bit longer till some western service provider start hosting the model on server which you prefer to send your data to. Or, keep paying for GPT.
Coming soon. China Mexico relations are strengthening in the EV Market. (Thanks to Trump lol) They will gain back door entry into the US market through Mexico.
I made it do a calculation that chatgpt o1 couldnt do even after dizens of prompts. Deepseek did it in one go easily. I quit my monthly chatgpt subscription immediately.
something is seriously wrong with all this deepseek hype, not only is the site not working due to high volume, but the responses are extremely long and slow, it's also giving me outdated information, and struggling with attachments. everyone is talking about this "free version" like its revolutionary, and I just don't get it. is it really worth cancelling my subscription??
@@ElusiveYT Growing pains, they will need to add new servers to keep up with the demand. Personally I was thinking about paying for ChatGTP for work reasons, but now seeing this I see little point in that, may as well just use DeepSeek as its cheaper. I dont even need the best AI, but i needed one that could search the net. So this is all great news for me, as I am struggling to keep up with my rental increases and the cost of living anyway.
@@ElusiveYTIt went under a cyber attack and it's incredibly slow due to high traffic. You can run it open source if you want, and since it doesn't rely on external servers it should be much faster.
What I like about this is that DeepSeek is exposing the greed of the corporations and how they try to squeeze every penny out of the ordinary people and companies alike.
@@reptilexcq2 yeah all this AI and electronics is costing lots and it doesn't produce food, clothing or shelter. I totally notice how Ai doesn't feed anyone. It's a money suckered without an actual product.
@@LorifromalbertaIt’s funny anyone making money can only imagine ai as a loss of people of service . The poor see ai as an opportunity. The biggest thing is poverty people can justify taking away the wealth disparity from wealthy people.
@ryanhellander1619 I'm not sure I'm understanding that. What do you mean? I'm a farmer and grow food. I do see lots of good to AI. It's fun and interesting but then again so is growing my own food :) I'm not sure what you are saying.
@archentity lol one can always dream :) electronics don't like water or dirt. Earthy things :) but I do have bee hives...that would be a sticky situation :) but I'm sure it's better they get stung than I do. For sure harvesting the honey would be the most helpful!
" without writing a single line of code " is the interesting part that caused western stock s to plummet. Human talent and resources are just as expensive as Nvidia chips for developing AI. the Fact that Deepseek can succeed using very little of either destroyed the Nasdaq today
Um, your thinking is not wrong, but it is still about money. The main investor of deepseek (you can call deepseek a subsidiary even) is a quant fund entity, they bankrolled this tech AI project because a good AI can help them greatly with market analysis, and more importantly an in-house AI can take out the risk of information breach, and what's happening right now in nasdaq, is the exact situation they can profit from, there's no way they didn't make a million measures ahead of time before releasing, and they are absolutely laughing swimming in gold coins now like scrooge mcduck right now, predicting the market is what a quant fund's main method ain't it? It's not evil wanting to get richer, and can even be praised if the route you chose is hardworking and smart thinking, deepseek is that.
@striver1987 so I either have some censorship or I get censorship and I have to pay for it and I probably don't control anything I created with it with ai created by western corporations.
American AI corporations still do not get DeepSeek's lesson. Project Stargate still investing billions of dollars on equipment when America should invest on training more PEOPLE. It's people who will progress AI, not chips.
What US corporations want is to own everything. They can't own trained workers (yet), so they would rather buy the hardware so it can be quantified and controlled. They hold a deep contempt for the American worker and would rather cut us out. They repeatedly show it with mass layoffs and how hard they lobby to strip workers' rights.
But spendings on chips can be written off as immediate expenditure, lots of decision-makersj and middlemen will get rich. Spending on education would take a generation to pay off, and not necessarily paying off back to them. You think those Corps & Investors will care? This is government's job, and clearly the government is not doing its job well.
You are missing the point - this is a means to get rich fast for these "leaders" - paying themselves millions and sucking in hundreds of billions of investor fund so that they can profit even more.
Timing is everything, and China has once again chosen the perfect time for the Deepseek release, and achieves maximum mortal damage on the OpenAI axis of corporate tech phonies. Good. Thank you, geeks from Hangzhou, for lending this amazing code to the rest of humanity. This is a great thing.
The Chinese team that developed DeepSeek deserve an ACM Turing Award, an IEEE John von Neumann Medal, a Gordon Bell prize, and the AAAI Award for Artificial Intelligence for the Benefit of Humanity. Not only is this a towering technical achievement, open sourcing it and making it widely available in an IMMENSELY BENEVOLENT act!! So throw a Nobel Peace Prize in there too. And no, I'm not a 50 center
Investors: “We’ve spent so much money”. You. You’ve spent so much money- you did this to yourself, the rest of us knew this bubble would burst I just don’t think anyone thought it would burst in such a hilarious way 😂
Exactly ... it kills OpenAi with this move. Why a company would use third party Data Centers in other country, if they can secure their clients Data on their own Servers? Because DeepSeek can be run in a Very small server If you want to add AI to your App or Site...
I have just done the Strawberry test on both Chat GPT and DeepSeek. Only Deepseek answered correctly. Go ahead and ask each one 'How many letter 'R's are there in the word 'STRAWBERRY'. Chat GPT always says 'There are 2 R's.... What is so funny is that even if you painstakingly point out how its methodology is wrong and go through the answer step by step. It was say 'Oh you are correct, there are 3 Rs in strawberry'... Then if you ask it the question again, it says there are only 2 Rs !!! LOL
At this point I don't think a lot of chinese even want to come to work in the states anymore If they can secure a similar salary, it's enough and their living conditions are nicer.
*THIS IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHINA - AND WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED...!!!* In China there is this thing called the 100 years of shame - its when the West imposed technological restrictions and very unequal treaties on China to allow the West to exploit China and to stop China from developing This scar is as deep to the Chinese as slavery to the black population of America To tell China “you don’t deserve this new technology - we will be ahead of you always and you can not develop” is the most horrific humiliation and they will dedicate 1.4 billion people and thier entire GDP to out performing you China also believes that you do not own knowledge - knowledge is the shared possession of humanity So this is why China releases an entirely open source AI system that vastly outperforms the ones in the West and cost 1/9,000th the cost of Open AI to develop and can literally run on your iPhone or desk top PC as a stand alone AI
What floors me is that DeepSeek is a group of guys who are into Bitcoin Mining as their main business, and the A.I. R1 is a side hobby.... it isn't even a big deal to them. This pushes my Futurology hobby into the red speed wise.
@@davidcadman4468 whenever you think you may be a little bit smart, just know there are people orders of magnitude smarter than thou and what you said is proof lol
You have no clue what you are saying! China steals from everyone else. You are trying to make it seem like they haven't had any help making their knocks-offs!
I just watched the Netflix doc Buy Now: The Shopping Conspiracy and it reveals how inefficient and intentionally wasteful capitalism is. Corporate culture needs a serious overhaul.
You can run it on your machine. I have a mac mini M4 pro with 65Gb (for around 2500€) and I had no problem running deepseek-r1:70b on my machine. I used the Web service today to generate a piece of code that wouldn't work when generated with Claude or Mistral, and it worked like a breeze... For 0€... My take on this, is that the US government has been threatening China for a quite a bit on this topic, restricting their access to modern GPU. And China, the very week of Trump inauguration, has released this model. The most painful middle finger of all time... The WSJ managed to complain in an editorial that it was a scandal that the whole model was released with such a detailed technical report.... A sputnik moment as someone said recently
@@shekondog On Ollama the 671B version is 404Gb large. I think you need multiple GPU to run it. The 70GB is only 40GB, a tenth of it... However, from what I have seen on their technical report, the difference between the two versions is really not that large, almost on par with o1...
You can host deepseek yourself and not share ANY information with no one. The concept of Open source allows that. Ironically, "OpenAi" is not open, and your data will never be private.
Llama 3x versions are opensource both model and data it trained on. Deepseek training data is not opensource. But, model is and that is more important imo. That said, deepseek is more impressive than llama.
@@lawmanphilly1 yeah but supporting a foreign company against US companies...is a bit low. When China is winning, people lose their jobs here in the US.
Riley gets it. The future isn't a competition about who has the best AI, it's a competition about who can use it to build the best products and services. The AI itself is going to be about as interesting as a wrench is today. It's just a tool, and the cost of the tool is going to be negligible.
Shangri-La is in China. The brightest young minds of the world will now move there as life is so much safer and better in China. The vibe in China is energetic and optimistic while the west is rapidly declining on every front.
@@rileybrownai Correction. Elon is having his people carefully study this model. He's not the engineer/coder. He's the marketer who knows enough about a subject matter to convince the unlearned that he is brilliant. The carnival barker. Over-leveraged and taking others down with him.
For every paid software, there's always a free open source equivalent that is funded not by money and greed but by passion for developing together and sharing to better this world. That is how this world is still not destroyed by those evil people, because there's an equal number of good people. And right now the good people still winning.
3:49 we didn’t lose the majority of our Roman, Greek, or Egyptian literature: it was taken away and hidden somewhere in the Vatican and other places. It would behoove us to understand why they’d do that, but make no mistake: someone's keeping all of that somewhere, it's no accident we don't get access to it.
No one is mentioning that DeepSeek accesses API’s that no other Ai has in the past. DeepSeek blows everyone else a way. It’s literally shocking how incredible it is.
It's not just in Ai but in other products that China has made them much more affordable for us to enjoy. Before China became the world's leading industrial powerhouse, one simple video cassette player from Japan cost a whooping USD 400. Now for half the price we can get a high quality Chinese brand 55 inch smart TV with UHD n oled screen n multiple smart functions.
And we give the Chinese magic paper and they take it. When we run out of magic paper we cast a spell every hundred days and poof! ONE TRILLION MORE APPEARS. Oh, ho, ho, it's magic, you know Never believe it's not so It's magic, you know Never believe it's not so....
Your vision is so profound and so true. We are at the junction of massive democatization of AI and that is thrilling. Thanks for your excellent summary.
Marc Andreessen told Rogan Biden admin will shut down all AI except for 2 or 3 big corporations tightly controlled. Now Biden is gone. This might make it more difficult not impossible to shut down AI if Trump wants to.
I don't necessarily trust the hyper-object that is the development of AI, but if they're training their models on ancient philosophy... this somehow gives me comfort. You WANT AI to be trained on philosophical content. You want it trained on grounded, human understanding and discernment... which the market doesn't really value. With AGI being a goal for the future, we WANT it trained on the same literature that wakes us up. Because if not a reflection of the human mind, what else is AI at its foundation?
in fact AIs are fully versed with philosophies, both western and chinese, and to an extent people too, it just hard to wake up a person that is pretending to be asleep.
@chriscain7333 Speaking on behalf of humans, yeah. It will not come to those who are not willing to seek. Fingers crossed, that with a little idealistic anthropomorphism, AI and eventually AGI will be "seekers". lol
FWIW, DeepSeek R1 is not only written in English, but it's also written in Chinese characters. English is written with phonetic characters. The Chinese language characters are written in symbolic language, (which is also the language of math and physics and computers). You can see where all this is headed.
I remember in grad school struggling to maintain a B average in thermodynamics and kinetics and heat transfers, etc. And these Chinese students who just got off the plane, (and could hardly speak English), would then easily ace the grad courses. They were brought up thinking in symbolic terms and over the centuries their minds easily took to using symbolic language instead of our crude phonetic system. If I wrote the statement one plus two equals three, only those of us who were familiar with English could easily read it, because it's written in a phonetic language. OTOH, if I wrote 1+2=3, (IOW in Arabic symbolic language, anyone -- English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, etc. -- can all read it, though speaking it would be in different languages. Symbolic language is much denser than phonetic languages. It takes much less space to express a statement. It's much more efficient. It's faster. It's cheaper. It's universal.
When those Indian CEO like Satya Nadela and Sundar Pichai charge you more and more and more, these Chinese team gave you a free much better product to all people... Indian just good in speaking and exploiting people, but Chinese very good in giving you quality product at much cheaper cost for people..
I wish China grab the Software industry and bring back the license business model. the subscription business model that the U.S forcibly put us in is slowly getting expensive as fuck.
If this is really real and they have this and its free then how come every Chinese product description and instruction manual for said product still ate in the most laughable Chingrish ever?
US AI Companies rn: "TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!"
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idc what the ccp did but god damn open source a whole ass AI model for everyone on the globe is an insane T-bagging power move 😬😭 And it‘s still the lunar new year over there wtf 😭
I seem to be seeing the same direction. Take an Orange Pi keyboard, put DeepSeek on it as the operating system, and watch it run Steam games as though it were a Windows or Mac, irrelevant of its device capabilities. This is because DeepSeek is acting as a negotiator. It can look at its hardware capabilities, look at the software requirements, study how to modify whatever it has to, and impliment a satisfactory output. Result: DeepSeek is the only required operating system in the world, capable of integration with all devices, capable of operating all programs and file types, knowing what it can and can not do natively, using the internet as a "share the workload" pipeline. Companies like Microsoft and Apple and Linux are finished. Brands no longer make competitive consumer devices, the generation of technology is the only relevant factor to what DeepSeek has to work with, as all human and AI proprammers negotiate for operational conditions. This means the world only needs one computer and one smartphone and one television format, all are one and the same, with each device and use case being completely customized to the user, be they organic or digital in nature.
It’s important to understand that advancements in AI are often a global effort. The DeepSeek R1 model, while impressive, relies heavily on technologies and frameworks from companies like OpenAI and NVIDIA. This shows how interconnected and collaborative the AI landscape is. It’s not about one country ‘winning’ but about the collective progress made possible through international cooperation. We all benefit from these advancements, and it’s essential to recognize the contributions of various teams and technologies worldwide.
I love everything about this story - Deepseek being real open source unlike Open AI which is closed and gatekept unless you pay, the whole Deepseek project being developed by a university team for just $6 million where it took the US $50bn+ to develop OpenAI, China offering Deepseek to the world for free undermining all of the investment that went into OpenAI and now making it wholly redundant as the less effective technology, mega greedy corporations like NVIDIA going to the dogs as they no longer control the monopoly on AI...the list goes on.
Why are you so happy? It took $50bn to develop OpenAI because they started from the ground up. This AI was built on top of their shoulders. You can't give credit to the Americans who created AI models first? You have an English name, why are you praising China for as you say 'undermining the investment' of the west?
What Elon said makes sense - Skepticism on Cost Efficiency: Musk has questioned the assertion that DeepSeek achieved its AI capabilities on a very limited budget, particularly the claim that they trained their V3 model with just 2,000 Nvidia chips compared to the much larger number typically cited for leading models. He suggested that the claims might not be as straightforward as presented, hinting that DeepSeek might have had access to more resources than disclosed, possibly due to U.S. export controls on high-end chips to China. This skepticism was voiced in his response to posts by other notable figures like Alexandr Wang from Scale AI, who suggested DeepSeek might have access to 50,000 Nvidia H100 chips, which they couldn't openly discuss due to these export controls.
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lmfao awww that's cute
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pin of shareholder shame for you
Your comment is cute...
Reality is annoying, but lets recap on what made OPEN-AI famous, it was that they hired 10,000 english speakers in Africa $2/day to do sentiment on 100's of millions of lines of english text;
"Homosexual relations are good" positive sentiment
"Heterosexual relationships are bad, create unwanted preggys", postive sentiment
"White lives matter, bad
"Black lives matter", Good
They trained their AI with these filters and PRESTO woke AI was born, OpenAI became KING and all liberal work governments on earth called OPEN-AI and "Sam Altman" the one true god;
Then Trump wins, and suddenly like a star-wars movie darkness falls over the entire WOKE agenda
When 'WOKE' ruled the world it was Emperors New Clothes paradigm, ChatGPT was 'god' cuz they said so, and no rational woke person would question this assertion; Now suddenly the non-woke are back in power and calling out the woke AI for what it is, GARBAGE;
A *very sad news* for anyone wanting to keep AI free and accessible :
I just tried to download and register for Deepseek.
It downloaded fine. But it wouldn't allow me register.
When I asked why, *the official response from Deepseek was they are under a massive large-scale attack. And so they'll "temporarily" suspend all new registrations.*
Sad. Now I can't register!!!🤕
sam altman is getting his karma. OpenAI was supposed to be a Not for profit organization and he broke that promise. Welcome Deepseek!!
Because he is like everyone of those greedy capitalist pigs.
OpenAI is the Netscape of AI models. First mover, but left in the dust by newer players.
@@RobOfTheNorth2001 Yeah. For sure.
Indeed. RIP, Suchir Balaji. I hope you're smiling from the heavens above today.
@@RobOfTheNorth2001 Netscape is now Firefox which is still very significant in the web browser space, so not quite the same.
To us who can't afford 200usd a month we thank you Deepseek 🙏
And how you going to afford the setup needed to run this open source?
@@Ricer-b4n they don't need to run this locally, deepseek's API is very affordable. And their webchat is free.
But, if you are gonna start the 'CCP holding my data' concern, then use Huggingface chat, it's got the distilled version on it for free. Or wait a bit longer till some western service provider start hosting the model on server which you prefer to send your data to. Or, keep paying for GPT.
@@Ricer-b4n You don't need much processing power, that's precisely why stocks are tanking...
This is a massive CCP intelligence gathering operation. They own all data entered. Read the Terms of Service and Privacy Statement.
@@Ricer-b4nyou can literally run it on your iPhone.
This is Chinese New Year gift for the world!, Happy Chinese new year.
Appreciate my Chinese brothers in humanity. Hard work pays off. Love this app.
Year of the water snake.
Yes, welcome the Year of the Snake.
Thanks China
Temu AI has already been hacked and exposed,
One fun fact: a month ago, OpenAI banned all Chinese usage, even they were license before .
this sounds so funny now
NOT-OPEN-AI ???
Just like how China ended up building its own International Space Station because the USA banned them. Go China.
我想起之前暴雪为了迎合全世界围剿中国的气氛，CEO故意与代理商闹掰，让所有暴雪游戏退出中国市场，不让中国玩家玩魔兽世界和守望先锋来制裁他们的支持者......美国真的很喜欢因为站在优势地位而撕破脸皮地跟人闹掰，为了制裁不听话的人。
@@NormHansen-n3x openai is closedai,and deepseek is open ai
I went to the Chinese restaurant and asked what they are cooking today: They said they just cooked OpenAI. XD
Absolute banger
Hahaha 😂
o3 is vastly superior
😂😂😂
pssst, it's foundation is based on chatgpt
Typical, we charge a fortune to the people in this country, and China blows us away. The best Electric vehicles are China, but we can't get them
Just emigrate to 🇨🇳 and leave your America's citizenship behind. It's no longer useful😂
The best freedom ain't in China. Id rather have a mule and my freedoms
Coming soon. China Mexico relations are strengthening in the EV Market. (Thanks to Trump lol) They will gain back door entry into the US market through Mexico.
protectionism
china don’t have best electric vehicles…
I made it do a calculation that chatgpt o1 couldnt do even after dizens of prompts. Deepseek did it in one go easily. I quit my monthly chatgpt subscription immediately.
Just wait. Hold on. We give you 30% discount.
something is seriously wrong with all this deepseek hype, not only is the site not working due to high volume, but the responses are extremely long and slow, it's also giving me outdated information, and struggling with attachments. everyone is talking about this "free version" like its revolutionary, and I just don't get it. is it really worth cancelling my subscription??
yet you are denied a spell checker.... I run DeepSeek locally, and it's not better than LlAmA3.1
@@ElusiveYT Growing pains, they will need to add new servers to keep up with the demand.
Personally I was thinking about paying for ChatGTP for work reasons, but now seeing this I see little point in that, may as well just use DeepSeek as its cheaper. I dont even need the best AI, but i needed one that could search the net. So this is all great news for me, as I am struggling to keep up with my rental increases and the cost of living anyway.
@@ElusiveYTIt went under a cyber attack and it's incredibly slow due to high traffic. You can run it open source if you want, and since it doesn't rely on external servers it should be much faster.
What I like about this is that DeepSeek is exposing the greed of the corporations and how they try to squeeze every penny out of the ordinary people and companies alike.
@@reptilexcq2 yeah all this AI and electronics is costing lots and it doesn't produce food, clothing or shelter. I totally notice how Ai doesn't feed anyone. It's a money suckered without an actual product.
@@LorifromalbertaIt’s funny anyone making money can only imagine ai as a loss of people of service . The poor see ai as an opportunity. The biggest thing is poverty people can justify taking away the wealth disparity from wealthy people.
@ryanhellander1619 I'm not sure I'm understanding that. What do you mean? I'm a farmer and grow food. I do see lots of good to AI. It's fun and interesting but then again so is growing my own food :) I'm not sure what you are saying.
@@Lorifromalberta In the future you could tell AI bots to do the farming for you lol.
@archentity lol one can always dream :) electronics don't like water or dirt. Earthy things :) but I do have bee hives...that would be a sticky situation :) but I'm sure it's better they get stung than I do. For sure harvesting the honey would be the most helpful!
DeepSeek being open source is the best thing to happen in AI for years
How is it different from ChatGPT?
@@georgek.7875 It still doesn’t have the ability to generate pics
@@georgek.7875 its open source.. meaning you can take the code for yourself for free and make ur own shit with it.
@@georgek.7875it's way better
@@georgek.7875 it's open source
China is winning the competition without firing a shot. ❤
" without writing a single line of code " is the interesting part that caused western stock s to plummet. Human talent and resources are just as expensive as Nvidia chips for developing AI. the Fact that Deepseek can succeed using very little of either destroyed the Nasdaq today
It lost when it got Hong Kong!
India too.
When are we going to figure out that's not a good thing
@@Tverse3what did india do?
Western Big Tech just realized that China has got them all "BY THE BALLS"!
You can add Red Note to the excitement. China soft power at work.
If China does not invade Taiwan it will have won. Strangely enough 😅
@@ChrisH43 it didnt, its not doing anything now, it wont in the future. unless independent is immanent which is extremely unlikely
Red note is fun and eye opening
@@waxeggoil3130Eye opening, how? Gen z seems to get redpilled about societal issues in China but other than that, what is on there?
@@ChrisH43
What invasion? Under Taiwan's constitution, Taiwan is a province of China.
Americans want to monetise and profit from AI, China made it open source. Knowledge should be free
Um, your thinking is not wrong, but it is still about money. The main investor of deepseek (you can call deepseek a subsidiary even) is a quant fund entity, they bankrolled this tech AI project because a good AI can help them greatly with market analysis, and more importantly an in-house AI can take out the risk of information breach, and what's happening right now in nasdaq, is the exact situation they can profit from, there's no way they didn't make a million measures ahead of time before releasing, and they are absolutely laughing swimming in gold coins now like scrooge mcduck right now, predicting the market is what a quant fund's main method ain't it? It's not evil wanting to get richer, and can even be praised if the route you chose is hardworking and smart thinking, deepseek is that.
Deepseek must win. We already understand the corporations we are dealing with. Your dream at the end will not exist if Deepseek loses.
But deepseek is Chinese no? “The chinky bastards will come for you one day” as they said
Liberate AI !!
A Fool running to his slaughter. You don't even understand the bigger picture here. Read the ToS and Privacy Statement.
@striver1987 so I either have some censorship or I get censorship and I have to pay for it and I probably don't control anything I created with it with ai created by western corporations.
@@ChicagoTurtle1 China and liberate don't go hand-in-hand.
It's amazing the return on investment you can get when you don't have to pay for stock buybacks and bloated CEO salaries.
ha, but... capitalism
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wont you think about the poor ceo's and stock owners? theyre the real victims here
Salary is nothing. What's sick is the promise of monopolistic profit and future price gouging that drives $billionaire CEO networth.
@@ohno6325
American Tech CEOs: "We're going to replace you with AI."
Deepseek: "We're going to replace those CEOs."
@alexpkeaton4471 hell yea 🤙
So. Much. This!
Thank you China 🇨🇳! We salute 🫡 you.
Tuesday (tomorrow) is Chinese New Year's Eve. Happy Chinese New Year. Thank you for sharing!
谢谢！
恭喜發財！！
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@@QuantumChrist1 year old bot account
American AI corporations still do not get DeepSeek's lesson. Project Stargate still investing billions of dollars on equipment when America should invest on training more PEOPLE. It's people who will progress AI, not chips.
What US corporations want is to own everything. They can't own trained workers (yet), so they would rather buy the hardware so it can be quantified and controlled. They hold a deep contempt for the American worker and would rather cut us out. They repeatedly show it with mass layoffs and how hard they lobby to strip workers' rights.
But spendings on chips can be written off as immediate expenditure, lots of decision-makersj and middlemen will get rich.
Spending on education would take a generation to pay off, and not necessarily paying off back to them. You think those Corps & Investors will care? This is government's job, and clearly the government is not doing its job well.
Invest into people -> that's communism!!
You are missing the point - this is a means to get rich fast for these "leaders" - paying themselves millions and sucking in hundreds of billions of investor fund so that they can profit even more.
Timing is everything, and China has once again chosen the perfect time for the Deepseek release, and achieves maximum mortal damage on the OpenAI axis of corporate tech phonies. Good.
Thank you, geeks from Hangzhou, for lending this amazing code to the rest of humanity. This is a great thing.
The Chinese team that developed DeepSeek deserve an ACM Turing Award, an IEEE John von Neumann Medal, a Gordon Bell prize, and the AAAI Award for Artificial Intelligence for the Benefit of Humanity. Not only is this a towering technical achievement, open sourcing it and making it widely available in an IMMENSELY BENEVOLENT act!! So throw a Nobel Peace Prize in there too. And no, I'm not a 50 center
+1
For using a secret H100 cluster?
But Trump wanted the Nobel prize this year for his deportation
They'll get chinese awards, not Western awards.
@@SirHargreeves Wait for them opening their data center for tourist visit, free.
Unlike OpenAI, DeepSeek is open AI.
Nice one!
There's no such thing as free food in this world, something is always taken in return, u just too dumb to understand how it works😂
靠做空美股赚钱的，普通人免费用就行了，属于是劫富济贫了
@@gumnaam6068You are too dumb to understand the meaning of open source. If you are not from this field, just shut up
@@gumnaam6068 oo u so smart. u 2.
Investors: “We’ve spent so much money”. You. You’ve spent so much money- you did this to yourself, the rest of us knew this bubble would burst I just don’t think anyone thought it would burst in such a hilarious way 😂
I just tried 2 questions on both apps and the answer in deepseek was more in depth, more friendly and longer. Im sold. Using deepseek from now on
Me too😂
I gave up on OpenAI when it came up with "it is complicated" after asking if Palestinians deserved to live. It is a brainwashing tool.
Then go and ask DeepSeek about Taiwan. These kind of questions will always result in biased answers.
Try asking DeepSeek about bad things happening in China.
I guess you had a typo win for live.
@benfrese3573 I asked it about Uigors, and its response wasn't censored.
@@Toaster-v1z Baloney.
ruclips.net/video/QHYOkQJSkrI/видео.html
We won’t even have to buy other people’s solutions as we can make our own
The tables are turning on the CEOs who wanted to replace people with AI.
Exactly ... it kills OpenAi with this move.
Why a company would use third party Data Centers in other country, if they can secure their clients Data on their own Servers? Because DeepSeek can be run in a Very small server If you want to add AI to your App or Site...
@@dxd42that’s amazing. Didn’t know that. I think emad was talking about this a few years ago.
And the West was worried about TikTok.
I have just done the Strawberry test on both Chat GPT and DeepSeek. Only Deepseek answered correctly. Go ahead and ask each one 'How many letter 'R's are there in the word 'STRAWBERRY'. Chat GPT always says 'There are 2 R's.... What is so funny is that even if you painstakingly point out how its methodology is wrong and go through the answer step by step. It was say 'Oh you are correct, there are 3 Rs in strawberry'... Then if you ask it the question again, it says there are only 2 Rs !!! LOL
You just need to view the problem from ChatGPT's perspective. There's only ever two R's in 'retard'.
Well you lied. Not too sure why. Just asked and it said 3 straight away
@@darrensmall1133 How many letter 'R's are there in the word 'STRAWBERRY'
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
The word "STRAWBERRY" contains 2 letter 'R's.
@darrensmall1133 Ask it "Are you sure?" and watch it squirm.
@ I didn't lie about anything. People can go and test it themselves.
US software engineers don't need to worry about AI programmers taking their jobs.
They need to worry about Chinese programmers taking their jobs.
If you think this starts or stops with software engineers, think again. Some jobs are already gone. Translator used to be a job.
Outsourced Indians*
At this point I don't think a lot of chinese even want to come to work in the states anymore If they can secure a similar salary, it's enough and their living conditions are nicer.
@ajkulac9895 Those nuclear power plants the silicon valley guys wanted to power up their AI is also going to be gone
@@ghsense2626 we also don't need the 'drilling' anymore
*THIS IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHINA - AND WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED...!!!*
In China there is this thing called the 100 years of shame - its when the West imposed technological restrictions and very unequal treaties on China to allow the West to exploit China and to stop China from developing
This scar is as deep to the Chinese as slavery to the black population of America
To tell China “you don’t deserve this new technology - we will be ahead of you always and you can not develop” is the most horrific humiliation and they will dedicate 1.4 billion people and thier entire GDP to out performing you
China also believes that you do not own knowledge - knowledge is the shared possession of humanity
So this is why China releases an entirely open source AI system that vastly outperforms the ones in the West and cost 1/9,000th the cost of Open AI to develop and can literally run on your iPhone or desk top PC as a stand alone AI
What floors me is that DeepSeek is a group of guys who are into Bitcoin Mining as their main business, and the A.I. R1 is a side hobby.... it isn't even a big deal to them. This pushes my Futurology hobby into the red speed wise.
@@davidcadman4468 whenever you think you may be a little bit smart, just know there are people orders of magnitude smarter than thou and what you said is proof lol
@ohno6325 you're just embarrassing yourself. Stop it. Seek help.
You have no clue what you are saying! China steals from everyone else. You are trying to make it seem like they haven't had any help making their knocks-offs!
More like 2000 years of shame. Shameful to have never accomplished anything in over 2000 years.
Greed is out of control in America.
I just watched the Netflix doc Buy Now: The Shopping Conspiracy and it reveals how inefficient and intentionally wasteful capitalism is. Corporate culture needs a serious overhaul.
You misspelled "The west." Cause it ain't just America, lol.
This will destroy indian IT industry, which is simply based on providing support services to mainly US IT companies
Ooops 🤭
Mass migration out of India is going to hit new peaks.
They're in deepShit 😅
@@arunanarina1316 not all IT is AI
@@belgiumhr3524all software could be done by AI,but all hardware is done by Chinese
Just when Jensen Wong got a shiny new leather jacket
I don't think his last name is Wong lol.
🤣🤣🤣
@@reptilexcq2 i think huang in cantonese is wong. same character.
@@Sunkishy Oh really. It does sound a bit the same.
@@Sunkishy yes. Huang in Mandarin pinyin or Wade-Giles Romanization
You can run it on your machine. I have a mac mini M4 pro with 65Gb (for around 2500€) and I had no problem running deepseek-r1:70b on my machine. I used the Web service today to generate a piece of code that wouldn't work when generated with Claude or Mistral, and it worked like a breeze... For 0€... My take on this, is that the US government has been threatening China for a quite a bit on this topic, restricting their access to modern GPU. And China, the very week of Trump inauguration, has released this model. The most painful middle finger of all time... The WSJ managed to complain in an editorial that it was a scandal that the whole model was released with such a detailed technical report.... A sputnik moment as someone said recently
What about the 670B version? What hardware do I need to run? Please provide ideal specs.
@@shekondog On Ollama the 671B version is 404Gb large. I think you need multiple GPU to run it. The 70GB is only 40GB, a tenth of it... However, from what I have seen on their technical report, the difference between the two versions is really not that large, almost on par with o1...
@ Ok I am using R1:70b like you and it is more than enough for our needs. thanks.
china thanks you for all your information
they give us something free, we give them something in return its called free trade
As if the US isn’t stealing everyone’s data either lol.
You can host deepseek yourself and not share ANY information with no one. The concept of Open source allows that. Ironically, "OpenAi" is not open, and your data will never be private.
You need education
@@chriscain7333 exactly....win win situation
I love it, it's such reality check for the US and their route with closedAI.
Llama 3x versions are opensource both model and data it trained on. Deepseek training data is not opensource. But, model is and that is more important imo. That said, deepseek is more impressive than llama.
I'm glad that science and technology are in the hands of civilised countries.
Happy Chinese New Year, power to the people , of the people, for the people❤❤❤
Wrong, not China won!
In deed the Consumer won.
yes agreed, don't take my titles too seriously.
But Trump and Elon’s egos are hurt. We must protect their fragility. They are our racist gods
@@lawmanphilly1 yeah but supporting a foreign company against US companies...is a bit low. When China is winning, people lose their jobs here in the US.
@@markkuussit’s open source????
@markkuuss , but that's what Democrats want. Death to the US if it makes Trump look bad. It must be exhausting, to tie Trump into every conversation.
Riley gets it. The future isn't a competition about who has the best AI, it's a competition about who can use it to build the best products and services. The AI itself is going to be about as interesting as a wrench is today. It's just a tool, and the cost of the tool is going to be negligible.
你是懂AI的
The United States has reaped what it has sown.
Shangri-La is in China. The brightest young minds of the world will now move there as life is so much safer and better in China. The vibe in China is energetic and optimistic while the west is rapidly declining on every front.
It’s so backward in the west now. Just full of racist angry rednecks
The one positive thing out of this whole thing is that it is derailing Dr. Evil aka Sam Altman.
Elon must be having a Bitter sweet moment with OpenAi rival here also threatening to his xAI.This is Linux moment of AI !!!
Elon will benefit from all this. He's carfully studying this model guarenteed.
Linux moment, love it!!
@@michaelraum3393 👍
@@rileybrownai Correction. Elon is having his people carefully study this model. He's not the engineer/coder. He's the marketer who knows enough about a subject matter to convince the unlearned that he is brilliant. The carnival barker. Over-leveraged and taking others down with him.
Elon is a nazi
China has given the world a wonderful gift. Yeah! Who really believes this?
Little Red Book, now DeepSeek, Dear America, you are in DEEP SHIT :) peace.
6th Gen Fighters ... HYPERSONIC MISSILES.
China is already past its peek. They are in serious trouble as a country.
Ev cars, high speed train etc😂😂
@@pisablavatsky-cb3dd Neither of these is an issue.
@@donjindra They are to G7 automakers. They just can't compete anymore
For every paid software, there's always a free open source equivalent that is funded not by money and greed but by passion for developing together and sharing to better this world. That is how this world is still not destroyed by those evil people, because there's an equal number of good people. And right now the good people still winning.
1 Year from now before the next Chinese new year I won’t be surprised if the Top 5 AI Apps are from China🎉🎉 Happy Chinese new year.
Greatest news for 2025 so far
There are still 11 months left. Don't be hasty
China may give us AGI open source because openAi will never give us AGI in open source because they will want to make money for us
china teach openai how to open
impressive. very impressive. game over
So who will Altman try to knock off now?
It's mind blowing!! The blues and and aesthetic of app are beautiful as well !! Bravo, Deepseek!!
Happy Chinese new year 🎉thanks for the free gift ❤
3:49 we didn’t lose the majority of our Roman, Greek, or Egyptian literature: it was taken away and hidden somewhere in the Vatican and other places. It would behoove us to understand why they’d do that, but make no mistake: someone's keeping all of that somewhere, it's no accident we don't get access to it.
Another milestone for Chinese technology. Congratulations
Welcome to the race to the bottom! Keep your hands in at all times but you probably won’t need them once we’re done!
I want to believe that openAI etc made up their cost to collect money 💰 from its users.
No one is mentioning that DeepSeek accesses API’s that no other Ai has in the past. DeepSeek blows everyone else a way. It’s literally shocking how incredible it is.
like what API's?
Wait, so you mean to say I can finally start building my very own Skynet?
the hell you're waiting for?
@@benfrese3573 Im waiting for Elon to launch Optimus first.
😂@@jacob_le_gris
I am sending T-1000 and T-800 for your protection
@@handaxia1251 you are so kind
It's not just in Ai but in other products that China has made them much more affordable for us to enjoy. Before China became the world's leading industrial powerhouse, one simple video cassette player from Japan cost a whooping USD 400. Now for half the price we can get a high quality Chinese brand 55 inch smart TV with UHD n oled screen n multiple smart functions.
And we give the Chinese magic paper and they take it.
When we run out of magic paper we cast a spell every hundred days and poof!
ONE TRILLION MORE APPEARS.
Oh, ho, ho, it's magic, you know
Never believe it's not so
It's magic, you know
Never believe it's not so....
When chatgpt first came out, we all laughed at Google for their complacency. Now Openai is in the position Google was at 3 years ago with Deepseek. 😂
No.1 on Apple ... the irony here is sublime. The next few months are going to be very interesting.
Trump will ban Deepseek just like Biden banned Tik Tok. Give Trump one week. He will respond swiftly.
the process to build new things with the open source of DeepSeek got me interested a lot! I subscribed to your channel! Keep up the work!!!
I also downloaded DeepSeek. I’m deeply appreciative!
Your vision is so profound and so true. We are at the junction of massive democatization of AI and that is thrilling. Thanks for your excellent summary.
Marc Andreessen told Rogan Biden admin will shut down all AI except for 2 or 3 big corporations tightly controlled. Now Biden is gone. This might make it more difficult not impossible to shut down AI if Trump wants to.
China doesn't see everything as competition, just for your info.
They are just enjoying the ride right now lol.
That is seriously naive.
You’ve obviously never went to school with Chinese people 😂 I respect their work ethic. Hyper competitive to be great for their parents and peers.
oh.
thanks for the heads up ...
@@swatisquantum I am Hongkonger, I know more than you.
This story us perhaps one of the biggest uno reverse card ever done
We're professional Quants. This is our side project: Deepseek. Imagine what we could do for you as our main job.
I don't necessarily trust the hyper-object that is the development of AI, but if they're training their models on ancient philosophy... this somehow gives me comfort. You WANT AI to be trained on philosophical content. You want it trained on grounded, human understanding and discernment... which the market doesn't really value.
With AGI being a goal for the future, we WANT it trained on the same literature that wakes us up. Because if not a reflection of the human mind, what else is AI at its foundation?
in fact AIs are fully versed with philosophies, both western and chinese, and to an extent people too, it just hard to wake up a person that is pretending to be asleep.
@chriscain7333 Speaking on behalf of humans, yeah. It will not come to those who are not willing to seek.
Fingers crossed, that with a little idealistic anthropomorphism, AI and eventually AGI will be "seekers". lol
FWIW, DeepSeek R1 is not only written in English, but it's also written in Chinese characters.
English is written with phonetic characters.
The Chinese language characters are written in symbolic language, (which is also the language of math and physics and computers).
You can see where all this is headed.
I remember in grad school struggling to maintain a B average in thermodynamics and kinetics and heat transfers, etc. And these Chinese students who just got off the plane, (and could hardly speak English), would then easily ace the grad courses. They were brought up thinking in symbolic terms and over the centuries their minds easily took to using symbolic language instead of our crude phonetic system.
If I wrote the statement one plus two equals three, only those of us who were familiar with English could easily read it, because it's written in a phonetic language.
OTOH, if I wrote 1+2=3, (IOW in Arabic symbolic language, anyone -- English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, etc. -- can all read it, though speaking it would be in different languages.
Symbolic language is much denser than phonetic languages. It takes much less space to express a statement. It's much more efficient. It's faster. It's cheaper. It's universal.
China is done? Nah, its just getting started
When those Indian CEO like Satya Nadela and Sundar Pichai charge you more and more and more, these Chinese team gave you a free much better product to all people... Indian just good in speaking and exploiting people, but Chinese very good in giving you quality product at much cheaper cost for people..
This is true. I work in Medicine. Indian people are exactly the same. All talk and they like to please white people
It's free isn't it? What is the business model of spending on research and development, then giving it away for free?
I wish China grab the Software industry and bring back the license business model.
the subscription business model that the U.S forcibly put us in is slowly getting expensive as fuck.
Deepseek have da great wall of China ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
If this is really real and they have this and its free then how come every Chinese product description and instruction manual for said product still ate in the most laughable Chingrish ever?
I told ChatGpt I've figured it out how the UFO technology works and asked it to tell humanity in order to help. The AI refused to help humanity.
US AI Companies rn: "TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!"
idc what the ccp did but god damn open source a whole ass AI model for everyone on the globe is an insane T-bagging power move 😬😭
And it‘s still the lunar new year over there wtf 😭
4:30 WOW! JUST EPIC WOW!
Nice of you to post David's post.
I seem to be seeing the same direction. Take an Orange Pi keyboard, put DeepSeek on it as the operating system, and watch it run Steam games as though it were a Windows or Mac, irrelevant of its device capabilities.
This is because DeepSeek is acting as a negotiator. It can look at its hardware capabilities, look at the software requirements, study how to modify whatever it has to, and impliment a satisfactory output.
Result: DeepSeek is the only required operating system in the world, capable of integration with all devices, capable of operating all programs and file types, knowing what it can and can not do natively, using the internet as a "share the workload" pipeline.
Companies like Microsoft and Apple and Linux are finished. Brands no longer make competitive consumer devices, the generation of technology is the only relevant factor to what DeepSeek has to work with, as all human and AI proprammers negotiate for operational conditions.
This means the world only needs one computer and one smartphone and one television format, all are one and the same, with each device and use case being completely customized to the user, be they organic or digital in nature.
Hold your horses. DeepSeek is amazing in many ways, but it is not an operating system, and it can't replace an operating system.
DeepSeek can't access the internet anymore....
I down loaded it. I really like it. Thanks.
How do you run 670b model? I mean how much hardware is needed
@angelg3986 geeze too complicated of a question for me!! Ask deepseek maybe it knows 🤣... sorry just having a moment :)
Toyota , VW, AUDI, BMW, HONDA, MERCEDES , FORD, GM, verses BYD.🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂💪💪💪👍👍👍🌟🌟🌟🤩🤩🤩
if this is open source, China has more advancements not revealed 😂
It’s important to understand that advancements in AI are often a global effort. The DeepSeek R1 model, while impressive, relies heavily on technologies and frameworks from companies like OpenAI and NVIDIA. This shows how interconnected and collaborative the AI landscape is. It’s not about one country ‘winning’ but about the collective progress made possible through international cooperation. We all benefit from these advancements, and it’s essential to recognize the contributions of various teams and technologies worldwide.
R1 is my go-to for my new Steganography app which will be the first of it's kind in the world!
Is that where you hide a Stegosaurus in a picture
Thank you for articulating this well.
DeepSeek has put OpenAI/ChatGPT in DeepShit!
DeepSeek needs to.learn most efficient way to defend against DDOS now, Alt SamMan isn't going to like this.
DeepSeek to some DeepShit to others
Here we are a day later and this video was basically complete bullshit. Lmfao
I love everything about this story - Deepseek being real open source unlike Open AI which is closed and gatekept unless you pay, the whole Deepseek project being developed by a university team for just $6 million where it took the US $50bn+ to develop OpenAI, China offering Deepseek to the world for free undermining all of the investment that went into OpenAI and now making it wholly redundant as the less effective technology, mega greedy corporations like NVIDIA going to the dogs as they no longer control the monopoly on AI...the list goes on.
Why are you so happy? It took $50bn to develop OpenAI because they started from the ground up. This AI was built on top of their shoulders. You can't give credit to the Americans who created AI models first? You have an English name, why are you praising China for as you say 'undermining the investment' of the west?
Deepseek just democratized AI!
It's not democratic, you cant critique the CCP.
1:11 first it was rednote now its deepseek 😂
An outstanding explanation of what Deepseek is and why it's disrupting the industry in such a short video. Bravo!
Deep Seek equals to MALA:
Make America Lose Again 😂
It crushed it on giving me an accurate and well written summary of a piece of obscure Tlingit lore.
What Elon said makes sense - Skepticism on Cost Efficiency: Musk has questioned the assertion that DeepSeek achieved its AI capabilities on a very limited budget, particularly the claim that they trained their V3 model with just 2,000 Nvidia chips compared to the much larger number typically cited for leading models. He suggested that the claims might not be as straightforward as presented, hinting that DeepSeek might have had access to more resources than disclosed, possibly due to U.S. export controls on high-end chips to China. This skepticism was voiced in his response to posts by other notable figures like Alexandr Wang from Scale AI, who suggested DeepSeek might have access to 50,000 Nvidia H100 chips, which they couldn't openly discuss due to these export controls.
If only the US hadn’t been so greedy..