Give Me an Answer - If There is No God, Everything Came From Nothing.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Program 1223 ................... - Creation - Religion - The Bible ..............
Recorded at The University of South Carolina - April 2023
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
#Evidence #Christianity #Jesus #apologetics
I I am ashamed to say I was once on the side of atheist. But I found him our father in heaven. Submission is important. I gave my trust to the Lord. Letting go the control of my pride and need to be right. To something beyond
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We want intelligent people to represent atheism 👍
Christians can have the rest
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@@jasonnoble7302interesting
God bless you. Hope you're enjoying your walk with God?
@@jasonnoble7302 Are atheists intelligent?😂 I don't know about that.
@@jasonnoble7302Life got ya down ay?
Nice to see civilised discussion. Cancel culture needs to see this.
I think Marcie explained himself incredibly well. I hope he turns up in more video's.
Eh arguing with a fool is in itself foolish.
@@bonnie43ukherself* you can see she's a woman biologically therefore she's a she
Exactly 💯. Marcy is very intelligent but clearly wrong. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. I'm glad brother Cliffe Knechtle addressed that Evil is finally given what it deserves in Hell so Evil doesn't win. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
The good stuff never reach us because they never make any waves 😅
I know it’s unlikely that Cliff will see this message
But I want to express my deepest gratitude for what he does.
May the Lord bless you, your family and your generations to come.
I have been drawn closer to God and I have comprehended reality in a higher level.
I dream to continue this work he’s been doing for years one day in my beloved Latin America and the United States.
Thank you Cliff ❤
I absolutely love it when Christians are articulate and speak so intellectually. Cliffe really embodies that.
I join my voice to yours. Truly grateful for you Cliff
@@advil6356the only people who think this is intellectual are hardcore Christians, no rational intelligent person would agree this guy is being intellectual, everything he discusses comes from a foundation of pure belief with no factual knowledge
@@Scott-fy7fm Is that so? Would you mind explaining to me why that is? Because I highly doubt you've watched a full video from Cliffe.
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Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
I am gonna start taking notes on his talks to teach my son. This is good stuff!! Praise God for these men's lives.
So you wish to brainwash your child as soon as possible? What about these arguments did you think was good?
God Existing is about choice. Thier are 100’s of Gods and Multiple religions and faiths to believe in. You don’t have to believe in God or you can believe any style of God or Faith it’s up to you and what makes you happy in sadness and evil. Praise whoever makes you certain of what faith matter. Their are too many hypocrites and cowards in life that can belittle your faith just because their hearts are so small and their words are daggers 🗡️ for pathetic thier humanity is.
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Facts are facts though.
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
@@Useryuic No. Either a god exists or one does not. We cannot will a being into existence.
You’re either convinced of a proposition or you’re not.
@@2l84me8 it’s all about choice. Their are 100 of Gods and multiple religions, also Atheists. I have worked in my career with more people that never believed in my faith or Catholic, or Christian. I worked with so many believed in Buda, Hinduism, and Greek mythology etc. Or people that are pure Atheists, that believe in nothing, except for Satin and Prostitution. It’s your choice anyway and Porn is not the world it’s a small cliche filled with Female hypocrites. That get a good Day job that get cash. Porn stars don’t have offices, or building they have a day gig, in one place per free vid. That’s how weak women are. 50,000 Sq ft bitch full time.
I really admire Cliffe's patience. God bless this ministry and I pray the Holy Spirit will awaken these people so they may see Jesus' glorious truth.
His patience is great. His logic is skewed.
Amen
Yes, he's very patient while lying and misrepresenting atheism.
@@grateful3300How is his logic skewed?
AND I hope they find the noodly goodness of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the true creator of the universe!
i love how proud Cliffe looks watching his son preach to the lost and see how much a man of god he has become, and its awesome to see that the people they are preaching to are willing to have a civilized discussion with them and not just argue.
I watched him looking at his son spitting facts
@@tituskiptoo1664 Give us some facts.
This young person is very intelligent and has obviously struggled with these thoughts. What and amazing discussion and well thought out questions. I really enjoyed watching this.
What intelligence? Do you mean this person uses words. Cause if you go off of the Content, this so-called "intelligent person" was nothing but nonsensical rhetorict and a bunch of emotions and reaching.
@@ExMeroMotu9you mean the religious person who has no evidence that his God exists right?
4200 religions and every single one is a minority, by your own admission if you're religious most other religious people are wrong.
The mental gymnastics is astounding. Statistically you can't know if you're right BY FAR without lying and being dishonest.
@user-so2mj8cj1e there's so much evidence for you. You just choose not to search for it. Try doing some research before you jump to conclusions.
@ExMeroMotu9 there is zero evidence. You can go up to every Christian in the entire world and ask them all for evidence and NONE would be presented and HAS NEVER been provided. Not once in all of Human history has there ever been a single bit of evidence.
@@ExMeroMotu9 what a shame that you can't recognize the intelligence in someone just because you don't agree with that person .
Stuart is definitely coming into his own. He’s improving on his argument presentation.
@tandme2342 how can it be indoctrination if it’s an open conversation.
@tandme2342 Stuart stepped back from the faith for awhile and came back. He had a period of skepticism and Cliff have him his space. After reading a lot of secular material he came back to the faith. Doesn’t sound like indoctrination to me.
He’s getting very good at speaking nonsense.
@@Silver77cyn If you don’t want to understand his position, that’s your own problem. Your thinking is embarrassing immature.
@@libtardslayer3048 It's not that I don't want to understand, it's that his argument makes no sense. We have no reason to believe everything came from an invicible despot that never reveals itslef.
I was rebellious most of my life. Most of me fought against being God's, that it was true - the Bible, etc.... I want/ed to just disappear when I die, wanted nothing of it. Something inside me felt wrong when I went to church. I made all the same arguments about the accuracy of the Bible (which we must maintain and stay diligent). Over the last 3 or 4 years I have been coming to God. He has been opening my heart. I am now 46 years old and I am now humbled before him. I had hubris and didn't want to humble myself. I also had darkness and I didn't want the light. Thank you God for showing me the path!
Most people attain knowledge and "wisdom" with age but you decided to go the other way. The bible is idiotic, ignorant and evil nonsense and there is no evidence for any of the thousands of gods man has invented. And if you think that you have found some light when falling for the idiocy that is christianity and it´s monster god then you clearly have switched the meaning of light/dark in the meaning you are trying to use them.
That's a journey ❤
Being scared of death isn't a good reason to convince others.
i always considered it hubris to insist that humans alone of all the earth's creatures are chosen of god to bear his image. that humans alone hold morality in their hearts. i consider it hubris to write a story claiming to be inspired by god.
i have great respect for christians who take jesus message of love to heart. i have more respect for people who love their neighbor without needing a heavenly reward or infernal punishment to convince them to behave that way.
Who said I was scared of death and who said because of this I am trying to convince someone of something?@@StatsHurtStupidPeople
Shoutout to Marcy (I think it was?) for great questions and dialogue. And Cliffe was awesome with his answers! 🙌❤️✝️
His answers are rubbish, when he's not outright lying and committing logical fallacies.
@@almcdermid9669What did he lie about in this video?
@@OneBoundMusic No one thinks that something came from nothing. Literally no one thinks this, but he needs it to be "true" or he loses the thread. Also, "we don't yet know, therefore God," is a false dichotomy and a non sequitur.
Would you like me to catalog the rest of his lies?
@@almcdermid9669 He never said "we don't know yet, therefore God," so there's no need to continue your lies either. "God," or any higher power at all, is the only reasonable conclusion (unless you have a better one?) to an uncaused first cause, as the requirements for this uncaused cause is fulfilled by the nature of an omnipotent deity.
After your next reply I'll reply to your first point, so that we're not in a paragraph-war.
@@OneBoundMusic ""God," or any higher power at all, is the only reasonable conclusion (unless you have a better one?) to an uncaused first cause, as the requirements for this uncaused cause is fulfilled by the nature of an omnipotent deity." - Only for people without an education in physics. There is no need for an uncaused first cause, child.
I love how Stuart always appears out of thin air
I love this exchange of discourse. Both are respectful and honest in their discourse. Great session. Great learning for us all.
Without God, life doesn't matter
Why not? Why do we need a god to find value or joy in anything?
@@2l84me8because you’re just cosmic cancer. A virus. No purpose. Murdering you isn’t wrong if you mean nothing. You’re just an accident
The meaning of life is the purpose you give it. For you, that purpose might be your version of “god”.
@@Jonas-gl9ke But why call purpose a god in that case? Why not just keep it as purpose?
@@2l84me8 The OPs purpose in life might be to serve his version of “god”.
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I used to not be a Christian but yes, Jesus is real and he is awesome. I don’t hear many Christians say that they hear his voice but I have and love to serve him. The first time I heard his voice was when I was at a Home Depot and he told me to talk to a lady that was working there. So i looked at this lady from a distance and saw that she was working quietly. And so I said to Jesus, “she seems fine, why do you want me to talk to her”? Suddenly the lady starts to complain out loud. And so I say, “yes Lord I will go”. So I went up to her and asked her, “hello, how are you doing today”? The first thing she says, “is that she has had a horrible migraine all morning”! As well she complains about other things. So I tell her, “please hear me out. I have never done this before but the Lord told me to speak to you”. As soon as I said this to her, she opened her eyes wide open and took a step back. I said to her “are you okay”? She replied and said, “yes, it’s just as soon as you said that my migraine went away”. I was in awe as well and I told her what Jesus put in my heart to tell her and she started to cry and said to me, thanks for telling me this, I was falling away from the Faith”. And we hugged and I left. What’s awesome about this is that this was just the beginning. Jesus is real and he wants to save as many as would come to him.
Awesome
You've never seen, heard or known Jesus, quit lying to yourself.
Please if you hear voices you need mental help. Religion isn't a justification to remain mentally ill.
This young man was trying to make an argument for an eternal universe based on the 1 law of thermodynamics. "Matter cannot be created nor can it be destroyed" only applies to the constant existing mass in the universe. In other words, the amount of energy and matter in the universe remains constant. Even Stephen Hawking before he died came to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning. So, the question remains, who or what created the universe. I agree with Cliffe. It is more reasonable to believe the universe was created by God rather than through some evolutionary process (random chance). Design points to a designer. Laws point to a law giver. Cause and effect.
If there is a beginning what was there "before"?
Evolution explains the diversity of life via selection pressure, not random chance. The Big Bang was an expansion of matter, not the origins of the cosmos itself. We have no reason to assume the universe was a creation, let alone by an unproven god.
You are making an argument from personal incredulity and god of the gaps fallacy.
You cannot solve a mystery by appealing to an even bigger mystery.
@@bobnewsdog there can't be a before if God was always there In the beginning. It's that simple. We just can't comprehend it.
@@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist so you don't have an actual answer. Just do what your told.
@@bobnewsdog I was never told to do anything pertaining to understanding how God was there in the beginning..??
God exists outside time, we also know that God is Alpha and Omega, we simply can't comprehend eternity but we do understand that it's forever and ever without end. Nothing cannot exist without God. There was never nothing in the beginning, it was always and will always be God.
That simple just complicated for our carnal minds to grasp. You must understand we are talking about an All-powerful being, the literal One True God. We can't fully grasp Him.
Amen!
Thank you for sharing the Good News, Cliff and Stuart! All glory to our Father, in the name of Jesus!
The Good News is that Christianity is dying; better late than never.
I've been binge watching askcliffe for past week now! It's such beautiful sight to see someone wrestling with God.
Its really easy to grasp. When you watch a movie you can pause it stop it rewind it fast forward it and replay it over again. You’ll know everything thats gonnq happen in the movie. That doesnt mean youll change the outcome of the movie tho
True
But if god is all powerfully he should be able to change it
@@overshottylerThis is true, God can. But at the same time this would violate free will so God won’t.
@@eleat exactly. I really don’t get what’s hard to get about this. You cant love unless you have freewill pick your poison. God respects us to make our own decisions.
It does mean that there is one possible set of events which can happen. No character in the movie can change the movie, otherwise the watcher couldn't be sure what will happen. When the watcher is the one who sets all of the parameters for what happens in the movie, including the nature of the characters, where is the libertarian free will of the characters to do anything other than what the watcher has set in motion? Than to obey the nature given to them by the watcher?
Cliff's patience and love for those he speaks to is amazing! Well done brother. You truly want them to understand or at least feel well-answered instead of just run over or explained away casually with a "gotcha" point.
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The pattern I notice among many of Cliff's audience is one he proposes something like "What's your better explanation to how order, design, and matter exist?" is they often change the subject. That's basically what happened here. I'm hoping that this is just them trying to make sense of holes left in their reasoning rather than refusal to examine the very real nature of the question. It's truly important that if we're going to reject God/god/the gods, we better have a good reason to other than, "The Bible has been translated so many times..." so what? If the translations are accurate (and we have every reason to believe they are), then there can be a billion translations and it's all good!
I've heard Cliffe say in hundreds of video's "I do not know", and that is an accepted answer, so why can't that answer also be accepted for the question of how order and design came about? .. btw, i dont happen to believe this planet we live on has been specifically designed and ordered for mankind, far from it, the vast majority of it is incredibly hostile to mankind.
@@bonnie43uk That's a fair question and I think this is why it makes sense.
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When Cliff answers, "I do not know" he's being asked to explain some nuance of God's behavior or nature. For example, how is it that God can exist outside of time. A 3 dimensional mind can't really comprehend the "everywhere, all the timeness" of God. But we can trust that a being capable of rising from the dead also has the power to be everywhere all the time. So when Cliff says, "I don't know" the point is he has enough evidence to trust that proposal A is true even if he can't fully explain it.
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On the other hand, the claim "I don't know" regarding how the universe exists without anyone or anything creating it is a total side step of the question. I could respect someone who says, "I don't understand every nuance of quantum physics and how gluons formed into the common sub-atomic particles we see today, but here's compelling evidence of why those particles could organize themselves into what we see today without any creator-being ordering them." Then they proceed to lay out the evidence for why their worldview is better, even if they cannot explain every facet of it to the nth-degree.
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In this video, the student doesn't even bother to address Cliff at all and just changes the topic. If you're going to say God doesn't exist, then it your burden of proof to provide at least a high level theory for how and why we see a physical, well-ordered universe. Otherwise, you should at least be honest and simply say you don't know and don't care to learn about it rather than use "I don't know" as a reason to deny God's existence.
@@sidwhiting665 I can't recall the kid claiming with certainty that "God doesn't exist", I think the vast majority of atheists take the position that they lack belief in a God, .. if and when such credible evidence is presented, I will adjust my thinking. I know that Christians find things like "a well ordered universe" as proof of God, but most astronomers don't see the Universe as proof of God. Why would a supreme God create a planet that has devastating earthquakes and tsunami's that kill tens of thousands of people, including little children and babies, or create mosquito's that infect children and babies with malaria?. I've yet to hear a credible answer to that question.
@@sidwhiting665 no, it's not his responsibility at ALL. The people advocating for a God are required to show evidence.
Your obsession with an abstract concept isn't our fault to disprove when YOU MADE IT UP. Applying abstract conceptd to come up with an objective answer. It's WILDLY intellectually dishonest.
The athiest doesn't know the answer because science isn't advanced enough YET and isn't actually making any claims, YOU ARE. The amount of warping you have to pull to make it about you is astoundingly untrustworthy and intellectually dishonest.
You God of the gaps argument is so weak, because science has yet to explain every aspect of quantum mechanics God must be in there somewhere?
You use LACK OF KNOWLEDGE to justify knowledge. Wow. Please stop. You're ridiculous.
@@sidwhiting665also the universe is eternal. The universe never claimed to be all powerful which is contradictory. The universe never claimed to be able to make a boulder it cannot lift.
The universe being eternal is WAY MORE BELIEVABLE than god since its not even REMOTELY contradictory.
Hear the word of the lord, repent, turn to the son of God, he is the Christ; Jesus.
Why does God permit animals to suffer ?
@@jasonnoble7302 How are animals suffering?? How do you know suffering is evil??😕
@@jasonnoble7302 Like a butterfly struggling to get out of its cocoon. God uses suffering to bring about a greater result. We sometimes don't like the suffering we face, but on the other side of it, we know we learned alot through it. Think of Joseph in the Bible. His brothers sold him in slavery, and he was falsely accused of evil and thrown in jail. But he was where he needed to be for God to use him to save many from famine. And he said later to his brothers, what you meant for evil, God meant for good.
Why do animals suffer? Man's sin and rebellion against God. God promises that one day the lion will lay down with the lamb. And there will be peace, and meat-eating animalsl will eat grass instead of other animals. Yes, there is alot of animals violence, and this is part of the fall of man. The first death recorded in the Bible is that God killed an animal to cloth Adam and Eve. Jesus, however, became the Perfect Sacrificial Lamb, who died once for all, so animal sacrifices are no longer required to cover sin. Jesus entered into suffering. Why did Jesus suffer so much for us?
@@jasonnoble7302focus on your ethnicity
@@jasonnoble7302 Animals have no souls, and no doubt that animals should be treated humanely and with love and respect since they were given to us by God as cattle, and companions. Humans did not just create civilization, animals played a big part in it too, but animals are not the same valued as humans.
Great dialogue. Thank you Cliffe and Stuart for demonstrating God’s grace and love for others!
colored hair means "i am not listening i am god, nothing you say will change my genius mind"
What is the term when you attribute the characteristics of an individual your perception of the characteristics of the collective?
Way to perfectly illustrate how religion breeds hateful intolerance and irrational stupidity
Sure, judge a person's ability to use logic and reasoning just for having colored hair. That's real intelligent.
continue to spread truth, in a world losing it.
How would you define “truth”?
One man was recorded thousand of years ago, claiming to be The Way, The Truth and The Life. He spoke with authority and defined truth. Not me.
@@brandonmarling6386 Truth is the extent to which a proposition conforms to reality as adjudicated by predictive power. How does “this man” you speak of define truth? What does it mean to, “speak with authority”?
@@brandonmarling6386I assume you are talking about Muhammed?
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Nah. Muhammad was a pedophile.
God bless Cliffe🙌🙏👏💯
We are in this world, it is what we were born into. Seeing the very first sunrise would've been glorious. Thank you God, Glory to You.
18:53, it's a little disheartening to see her raise a good point and just leave. people just want to hear what they want and are scared of what the truth will do to their perception of reality. I just thank God that he is actively giving people time to come around..
I thought it was a him trying to be her 😮
@@mgomez34vice versa. I had my doubts. But they/them is taking testosterone therefore the voice. And obvious wearing a binder. Sad.
@@mgomez34 No I'm talking about the woman with children
@@edgarramos3659 see my response above
@@edgarramos3659 What's sad is your transphobia.
God's power is only "limited" because He chose to limit it, in order to allow us to have a free will.
God could at any time reinstate that power and take away our free will, but since God is a God of love, he doesn't do that. He truly wants us to be genuine with our faith and love towards him.
If a man rapes and tortures a young girl, does she have the free will not to be raped?, would it not have been better if Jesus used his supernatural power to prevent the man from raping and torturing her? .. like a super hero. How cool would that be.
@@bonnie43ukGod gave us a world with freewill and it has been corrupted with sin, with that comes the ability for good and evil.
Jesus died for our sins and rose on the 3rd day to then appear to and save many.
The thing is, Jesus also told us how he views time in multiple dimensions.
2 Peter 3
The Day of the Lord
3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance
If the Lord sees a day as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day then we are still awaiting the Lord to return.
Day 1 - 0AD-1000AD
Day 2 - 1000AD-2000AD
Day 3 - 2000AD-3000AD
Jesus won the world but his mission isn't complete. The new heaven and earth is being built, awaiting the destruction of this earth through our Godless demise as a species and Gods intervention.
Revelation 21
A New Heaven and a New Earth
21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
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@@Theo_Skeptomai your comment is what an ai that only looks at reddit athiest posts would come up with, it’s kinda hilarious
@@Theo_Skeptomai you being clueless about it makes it even better
Pray for these they/them.. 😅
What methodology would you use to determine your prayers had the desired effect?
Nice way to highlight the inherent intolerance preached by Christianity
@@Scott-fy7fm
Intolerance over leftists peddling genital mutilation upon our little kids? You got that right.
It's a sad day when people dont even k ow what gender they are. Thankfully many are detransitioning and turning from the lust driven gay agenda.
Loved Marcy and Cliff. Great dialogue
Judgementalism is a sin? Hypocritical judgement is a sin. Righteous judgement is not. John 7:24 and 1 Cor. 2:15.
beautiful mind, beautiful ton of experience being shown here, GBU, may the glory back to the Lord.
Amen!!!!
Thanks for rational discourse Cliff!
It's unfortunate she asked a question and walked away not listening to Stuart has say. We shouldn't mix reality with the truth
Who is Stuart ?
That's a very weird statement, what do you mean we should not mix reality with the truth?
@@sofidofie That's Cliffe's son the other one that was talking
@@saitamaftw5385 Thanks ☺️ I watched a bit more videos and figured it out xd
@@sofidofie ahhh ok that's good glad u got that sorted out :)
Love these! I would encourage your team to pick up a few Zoom H4 sound recorders and perhaps place them on little stands in a small circle to pick up the sound of those you are talking to. You could probably get perhaps two of them and perhaps pass them around too.
Cliffe is absolutely excellent. He explains Christianity brilliantly. I would like to do this as well.
No he literally doesn't, he has no answers to any questions and just input od or religion into the blanks.
@@zippytwosauce6272
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
@@zippytwosauce6272Get the wax out of your ears and listen to him properly then. He explains Christianity with a lot of examples for people to easily understand, they might have nothing to do with the topic but definitely help to understand
@@rinaa6685 he literally explains nothing, anything he cant answer he attributes to a "god"
@@zippytwosauce6272 because surprise surprise, this “God” you’re referring to is the answer and has all the answers we don’t have, so it’s reaosnable
I love the work he is doing here. I think to help folks understand and relate better bringing the conversation back to a parent child relationship does the work.
God knows that we will go through learning experiences as He watches His children grow up. He doesn't interfere but coaches, like a good Parent. Like a Perfect Parent.
As a child we hate being told what to do!!!
We want nothing to do with our parents until we grow past our own desires.
It's all about the relationship ❤❤
We cannot find God in his creation, just like we cannot find the painter in his painting. But when you study the paintings the nature of the painter emerges and so it is with God.
Nature is brutal and horrifying to actually live in.
@@DANNdoomar You are attributing meaning to where there isn't any.
Great young man, very smart and a breath of fresh air. The wicked better hope this young man never comes to the faith. I pray, Heavenly Father that You encounter him with experience that he cannot deny.
Young man is blindly striking out, knocking over his own premises, hoping something will stick.
Hopefully he will repent and grow up one day soon.
He's asking factual questions based on scientifically proveable facts, the religious guy just responds with no sense rants that completely avoid answering the kid because there is no rational way to defend religious beliefs as rational. Religion is fine until it leads to being intolerant and attacking others as you just did.
@@Scott-fy7fm Scott, your attempt to turn the obvious import of the conversation on its head has failed miserably.
Then you attack religious people.
@@Scott-fy7fm
4 digit, 4 dimensional extremely advanced genetic code with gigabytes in the simplest cell on Earth, didn't write itself.
"According to our experimental experience only an intelligent source is capable of meeting these requirements, instructions, codes, languages, and code conventions. The fact that only one single genetic language exists indicates that one single intelligent source must have been responsible for the single genetic code of all polyphylogenetic biology. There is no other solution."
-A.E. Wilder-Smith
3x phd organic chemist
@@statutesofthelord Where did he attack anyone? Why do you people lie when it's right here in black and white?
@@tmurphy0919tmurphy, calm down, and read Scott's comment again if you don't understand yet.
I love how cliffe involuntarily does interpretive dance as he’s explaining the Existence of God. He truly puts everything he has into spreading the word of the Gospels.
No shortage of freaks in this world
Not freaks. Lost people who we have the job of to share the good news to
They hang out in the church and wear robes.
@@JaydenA007People aren’t lost for rejecting an unproven fairytale such as the bible.
@@2l84me8 The only triune God of the:
1)supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18)
2)historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.)
3)transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible has been verified, you would do well to look into it instead of prophetically fulfilling Romans 1:18
May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.
@@2l84me8 it's not our job to convince or convert that's god's role we are simply the sower of the seeds God is the one that can make it grow.
This guy always goes in to these poses like a superhero 🤣🤣🤣
Teachings about Jesus Christ should begin at an early stage of children. It's sad that many of us has a limited information about Jesus. Even I myself.
Sometimes life's challenges will lead you to knowing God.
I had it just last year by God's Grace.
I pray to keep my faith in Him now until His second coming🙏
God bless you all especially Sir Cliffe🙏❤️
Groomer
Atheist: "The Bible is translated inaccurately over time."
Also atheist: Can't give one valid example. Just assumes the Bible is inaccurate because that's the facts to a common skeptic.
They run from the truth. Atheism and LGTB are deep holes for the soul.
There’s several different translations and versions of the bible and over 1,000 different sects of christianity that all can’t agree on anything.
Notice people try to denounce scripture to justify thier sin they know is wrong? The devil is strong but God is stronger. God gives ALL a chance to except him or reject him. The one thing in the Bible that states All people of all nations of the whole world will know the name of Jesus and be given the free will to accept, repent and take God into the heart. This is true because even people interviewed in the most isolated places on the planet were asked have they heard the name Jesus and know of him and they say yes.
All the proof that is needed. I would rather follow and believe in God and Jesus who are good and just and forgiving than take the chance of going alone and face the hell in the afterlife.
This is why atheists are such depressed, suicide rates strongly increase, feeling deeply alone as they have no higher power to believe in and pray to. They feel they are just flesh and bone and wander the earth alone with no one above them.
These preachers are doing God's will to tell all to hear the name of Jesus so they can never say they were not told in the time of judgement. Save one in thousands is better than not have one in thousands to save.
@@jasonallred244 People reject your bible because there’s no proof to it. That’s why religious apologists are panicking like crazy to regain the followers that common sense has taken away from them.
Where are your sources that’s atheists are suicidal and depressed? If you can’t back up your ridiculous claims with evidence, you have no business lying about them.
Belief is not a conscious choice we make. Either we’re convinced of a proposition or we’re not. We have absolutely no control over this at all.
@@2l84me8 You have now been told the word of God. You can no longer say you have not and you have the free will to accept or reject. I am saying a prayer for you and all who are in the middle. No need to go back and forth. Ball is in your court. Make your own decision, I have done my part. Plus, i notice you are trolling me as you have a trend of replying to other topics I have posted to. That is fine. Gives me one more chance to give you a chance of accepting God and release the anger you have for the good.
Jesus Im waiting for you with open arms! Please save us all from this demonic world. I still trust in you and keep faith even through hard times.
As a single mom, things have been tough my husband passed years ago. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m struggling to support myself and my children but my faith in GOD is still strong! I lost my job at Forsyth hospital for declining the vaccine. I’ve been struggling since. I declined because of my health conditions lupus, and heart disease. Since losing my job I’ve been struggling to support my children. I’m now waitressing and I’m grateful but I’m not making nearly enough. Mandates are still in place so I can’t go back to any hospital. I’m tired of struggling.But God has provided for me through this storm. It hasn’t been easy. But I know all things are possible through Jesus. I will not fear. BUT I’m keeping FAITH. No one can stop what God has for us! Faith over fear. I know God will continue to provide.
I LOVE YOU JESUS
i just prayed for you my sister in Christ, keep the faith and keep going, the Good Lord is with you always so never forget that. i want you to know i love you and so do your other brothers and sisters in Christ, we're all in this together and more importantly, our God who loves us so much it can be beyond our comprehension, hears our prayers and gives ear to our cries
Psalm 42:2-4
My soul thirsts for God, for the living God;
When shall I come and appear before God?
My tears have been my food day and night,
While they say to me all day long, “Where is your God?”
These things I remember and I pour out my soul within me.
For I used to go along with the throng and lead them in procession to the house of God,
With the voice of joy and thanksgiving, a multitude keeping festival.
The evidence available for the good which Christian principles do is huge. It just takes a mind indoctrinated not to, to blind themselves, to not listen, and to not see far ahead. Christianity asks people to work, to struggle, to adopt self-discipline while these new secular religions arise that seem to offer a utopia without work or struggle but a vacuous catering toward perfect equity that doesn’t exist and whose only real result is conflict and destruction over scarcity. It happens over and over, and you can see it if you look at the evidence.
No, christianity insists you are poisoned and that their religion is the cure. Apologists rely on threats of enteral torture and shaming tactics to get their point across.
@@2l84me8 That is a morally critical statement, do you judge people’s beliefs and prescribe retribution or scorn based on your self-made moral ideas? Are you not poisoned but instead are morally perfect so that if your behavior continued for eternity it wouldn’t cause conflict, harm, and decay? Sins are anti-human behavior that sow distrust, self-destruction, and irresponsibility, it’s the behaviors themselves that cause the suffering and calls for justice, they are specifically laid out in context by prophets and messengers.
@@boltrooktwo No, sin is nothing more than a man made concept of fear mongering used to control superstitious primitives.
Wearing mixed fabric, eating pork, and picking up sticks on a Saturday are considered sins in the bible. Do you consider those “anti human behavior”?
Why doesn’t the bible consider slavery and genocide as sins?
I’ll tell you exactly why: the people who made up the rules to the bible had no issue with that.
You have bought into a caricature of "secular religions" perpetuated by media. The craziest, loudest people are the ones in the spotlight the most. There are millions of secular people who believe in self-discipline, struggle, and hard work. Including me. Perfect equity doesn't exist and utopias are unlikely.
We can judge these principles on their own merit without needing to appeal to any religion. If self-discipline yields positive results, why would we need a religion to tell us when we can simply observe the results ourselves?
@@2l84me8
They were escaping a global flood -->
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
This was a good one
Looking Good Cliffe 👍
Thank God for Cliff and Stuart for putting them in a position where they can help these kids.
I disagree, I think it's terrible he is trying to teach young children to turn off their rational thinking and ignore scientific knowledge in favor of placing your basic belief system in the hands of scientifically ignorant people who died thousands of years ago
How is lying to them and spewing ignorance helping?
In which way do you see them lying and spewing ignorance?
@@nick7977 First of all christianity is mostly lies and ignorance and he doesn´t even acknowledge when the facts are rammed in his face and just continues to go in a different direction and lies. When he says that everything came from nothing, which no one says but you religious and nothing in the big bang says such a thing but that is the religious position that a magic sky fairy that came from nothing magically made everything from nothing. He is claiming things about something he can´t know and no one knows cause a stupid old book of pure horseshit says so. Lies and ignorance!
Christian apologists constantly lie, cherry pick, deflect and don´t answer anything but just run in circles and continue to spew their ignorance and lies and it doesn´t matter at all how often they are corrected. Gottalieforjesus.
Spewing ignorance and lies doesn´t help anyone and I would think that anyone could agree on that.
@@nick7977 And the bible is anything but historically reliable, and has been rewritten and translated lots of times. It´s hard to mention all the lies he spews but just watch the video, it´s mostly lies and ignorance. No matter how much he squats down as to bring some more meaning to his lies, their still just lies and dishonesty. It´s actually hard to watch as there is so much bullshit but he isn´t alone and it´s the same with all apologists as they are all the same and just rehash the same old broken and long debunked ignorant bullshit. gottalieforjesus to keep the grift going and the money rolling in.
Man’s free will has nothing to do with GOD’s knowledge of what each of us will do
Amen! A simple analogy is to think of a football game that will be played a week from today. God already knows the outcome (who wins) right now. But next week the players will still take the field and play. God allows the players to exercise their own free will and play the game. Yet because God is outside of time, He knows what the outcome will be before the game begins.
Do you believe you have free will?
Or will?
That doesn’t make sense. If your god’s will is absolute and everything happens accordance to said plan, then there is no free will. Just characters acting out their prewritten roles.
@@Disciple793How do you know? What does “outside time” mean exactly?
It means operating in a higher dimension, kind of like you being stuck in 2D land trying the understand the guy in 3d.
The ‘’who created god question….’’ Is usually a mocking spirit… which deliberately ignores an uncreated holy god ..who has always been … and created the world .. and all things ..including time …and the laws of nature and science …. Yeshua stepped in to his created world ..to be the sacrifice for our rebellion…
The young lad is mocking … usually rejecting a maker with consequences… to be their own god … and do whatever suits them …
God restricted us, sets clear boundaries… One of which, Men are not to do engage in ‘bum penetration’ activities, because it’s wicked …and unnatural… logically…and diseases come from it…. However people want to do what they hunger after …. Good or bad ..including crime
I don’t understand why Atheists always confuse re-translation with re-written. Re-translation does not mean re-writing the context of scripture.
Every version of the bible was influenced by man’s hand, not an all knowing god.
@@2l84me8 That’s not true. If the Bible was influenced by the will of man only then it would be filled with errors. The are many books of the Bible that have been written by people who never even met each other that prophesied about something that was going to happen centuries down the road only for another one to confirm it hundreds of years later. Yes, the Bible was physically written by the hands of men but they’re not the authors.
@@2l84me8but all translations match in meaning though, even with the oldest translations which is close to when it was originally written
@@cogforreal5952 Not exactly. There are rewrites that have completely different wording from the hebrew version.
@@2l84me8 Different wording does not mean different contextual meaning. Please understand the difference. This is a very common mistake that Aithiests make when disputing the Bible.
The speakers give an extensive list of christian groups risking their lives snd resources to care for others. Immediately after the kid says "wouldnt you seensome observable impact?"
Even if it were observable it would still be attributed to science. Because you can't measure faith in a test tube.
as in, observable impact outside the basic understanding that giving care leads to better outcomes. we know that giving charity makes the lives of those who receive it better. how is it proof of god to say "some people behave in an empathetic way, even risking their lives to do so". because i ASSURE you, it is not only christians who do this.
I have a belief. I believe that kid will regret his hair style and tattoos.
God bless you always
Brilliant discussion.
The healing power of God is not out there its in here ❤. You could be on a battle field out there but yet enjoying the piece of God in here. Surrender and acceptance.
Cliff is like my Christian older brother. I love this guy
Love watching these guys who argue God with logic... which is good. I prefer watching the modern day prophet and apostles though. They are less apologetic.
Seems like this green haired dude is just a God hater and won’t settle for reason.
What reason is he missing ?
@@jasonnoble7302 that something can NOT come nothing. A painting without a painter makes more “sense” to this person lol. He also started to talk about how Christians do bad things, is that supposed to disprove a God or something? Simply rejecting the idea of an Almighty creator so they can live their lives according to themselves. To be their own god, as if us humans don’t need saving.
@@playstationsavage9000
Well, where did God come from ?
Answer: God is eternal
Therefore something eternal thats not God can answer this question as well
Both answers beg the question.
So, something from nothing or God isn’t a true dichotomy. Atheists can make up an answer equal to God
The other moral argument goes like this:
God is always good.
God is all powerful.
God is all loving.
God permits people to do not good things
It’s not a kind of normative good to permit People to do not good things.
So an always good God doesn’t exist.
Cliffe likes college students because they are ignorant to the objections to the arguments he makes.
I don’t see any reason to believe we need saving from an all loving God
@@jasonnoble7302you know it'd sad you sit here and try to say he likes the students bc they aren't as intelligent has he. That's just foolishness ofc you'd say something like that. You actually don't even know that to be true thats only your opinion. He cares for the young of this generation bc we are took God out our everyday time he is wishing to bring more people to God as possible especially the young bc we are the new adults of this generation. I wouldn't want to see the day atheism runs the world especially not America I couldn't live it out its just a terrible life.
You know if you actually wanted to know god you would do your best to try and have a relationship with him but since your so confident you don't need any saving let's just see how you do on the day christ comes back he's giving us all time for a reason don't waste yours if so you'll regret it.
@@playstationsavage9000You believe something can come from nothing, not nonbelievers.
We don’t need your genocidal and unproven god to exist in harmony.
My god my god is good 🙏🏼
I always love hearing the timelessness of God explained. It's such a difficult concept to grasp, but so awesome and mind-blowing when you understand it.
Given existence is necessarily temporal, how can something exist outside of time?
@@Jonas-gl9ke
Unless you are light.
At the speed of light, there is no passage of time.
@@Johnny424-vk6qe Do physicists believe that light, travelling in a vacuum, exists outside of time?
@@Jonas-gl9ke
No idea
"relative to people who aren't in motion, you are traveling just a bit slower through time. This effect has been confirmed by atomic clocks placed in airplanes as well as orbiting satellites and compared to those on the ground."
@@Johnny424-vk6qe Existence is necessarily temporal and so any attempted explanation of “God’s timelessness” really appears to be a post hoc rationalization that needs to be demonstrated. You seem to have likened “God’s timelessness” to light but I think it’s clear that time does not stop whenever light travels. If God is light, then surely this God can’t be omnipresent given light can only travel at 3x10^8 m/s. It’s also unfortunate that too much exposure to God increases the risk of melanoma.
Amen God Bless 🙏❤
when children are given words but no meaning.
Wow that was ridiculously rude and hypocritical. That kid is only trying to speak factually, the religious guy is just ranting about complete nonsense with no linear progression and no rational thinking at all.
@@Scott-fy7fm you are stupid, but its ok because you are young... you are totally excused. things will change as you gain life experience.
@@Scott-fy7fm*triggered*
@@Scott-fy7fm
"According to our experimental experience only an intelligent source is capable of meeting these requirements, instructions, codes, languages, and code conventions. The fact that only one single genetic language exists indicates that one single intelligent source must have been responsible for the single genetic code of all polyphylogenetic biology. There is no other solution."
-A.E. Wilder-Smith
3x phd organic chemist
Love how animated you are. Do you have an upload discussing Free Will, sin, accountability and God etc... somewhere?
Great show love you ❤God bless you 🙏🙏🙏☘️🌹
The patience of a saint right there. I don’t think I could listen to all of that unbelief for that long.
You mean scientific facts? Why would you be intolerant of someone who simply believes differently than you, isn't that again at the very basic concepts your religion is founded on?
@@Scott-fy7fmis god tolerant?
@@vman9347This is an amazing question and one I have been wresting with. I’m a believer in Christ, and I see now from reading Gods word, that God is loving but not tolerant of sin. He is just, and He is perfect, so it makes perfect sense that He is not tolerant of sin and evil.
@@skatermom8259
A global flood says it all.
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. I'm glad brother Cliffe Knechtle addressed that Evil is finally given what it deserves in Hell so Evil doesn't win. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
18:56 And off they run! AND 26:22 Poof! They are gone as well!!
Jesus is Lord!
Amen
# TeamDionysus
@@Theo_Skeptomaiyes
@@Theo_Skeptomai
Do you believe in half-breed ape men?
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
It's the simplest arguments that are often the most compelling, not to mention understandable. Organization in the universe points to an Organizer. Organization does not happen by accident. That, by the way, is a law of science, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, things tend toward disorganization (entropy).
"Aha! But," some will argue, "that's only for closed systems! The earth is an open system (has an influx of fresh energy)!" True. HOWEVER, that only is observable in the presence of pre-existing order, such as that provided by life. An acorn accumulates matter and energy (open system) and organizes into an oak tree eventually, but that's NOT ONLY because the seed is an open system thermodynamically, but ALSO because it contains the genetic material of the parent tree that created the acorn. Absent that genetic pattern, you could flood with energy a similar object having all the other components of an acorn all you want, and it will never organize into a tree.
A pre-existing pattern is needed for the open system to organize itself into a biosphere, or even the simplest of cells. If you disagree, show one observation or experimental result to disprove it. All such experiments that tout the 'creation' of simple proteins, always without exception start with raw materials only produced by living organisms. And again, if not, show the one that starts from totally inorganic matter available from an inorganic source. It simply does not exist.
organization points to organization. we see many self organizing structures and systems in nature. as for the 2nd law of thermodynamics: "A simple statement of the law is that heat always flows spontaneously from hotter to colder regions of matter (or 'downhill' in terms of the temperature gradient). Another statement is: "Not all heat can be converted into work in a cyclic process."
the earliest "pre-existing pattern" is physics. eventually, chemical interactions following physical laws allowed for a basic hydrophobic phospholipid bilayer to form, creating a protective layer for internal structures. RNA has been shown to be a good contender for abiogenesis.
and what do you mean inorganic matter from an inorganic source? carbon is an organic matter, "Stars produce carbon through the triple-alpha process, where three alpha particles (helium nuclei) collide and fuse within a tiny fraction of a second." is that what you wanted? life didn't come from "inorganic matter", it came from organic precursors.
Love you Cliffe god bless
Hey cliff, what happened to the 6 day creation ? You said big bang? What did you mean by big Bang?
The ending of this hurt my brain. Marcy went from critical thinking to irrational cliches and baseless claims because he didn't like there responses
No ?
How so ?
What baseless claims are you complaining about ?
Yes he got stuck on the crusades a bit there. The obvious part was the moral relativism, stealing isnt wrong as long as the other person has more than you....
@jasonnoble7302 The crusade issue was fine lots of ppl want clarity on that. But he divulge into Mormons in Utah shouldn't get sick or at least get healed quicker because there super religious. Also would try to stop cliffe from stealing backpack because it's immoral, but a completely subjective morality buy ok to steal from Bill gates because he's richer.
The student at 8:04 is talking about Leviticus chapter 18, verse 22: "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. It is an abomination."
The Hebrew word ‘yada’ means “to know”. “To know” someone in a biblical sense, and in the context of that verse, means “to have sex with them”, So, to translate Leviticus 18:22 more accurately, “A man shall not KNOW a man, like he KNOWS a woman.” that means Homosexuality is a sin.
Strong's Concordance
yada: to know
Original Word: יָדַע
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: yada
Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-dah')
Definition: to know
1a3) to know (a person carnally)
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
He even made a definitive answer for marriage , which is only between a man and a woman, and stated that those who commit sexual immorality will be judged. Being Heterosexual is natural. Homosexuality is included in a list of sexually immoral sins that God doesn't condone, among many other sins, and that all sinners will have their place in the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 21:8
But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Hebrews 13:4 - Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Matthew 19:4-6 - He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” (cross referencing Genesis 2:24).
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 says that homosexuals and other sinners will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven unless they REPENT.
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
Leviticus 18:22
Hebrew
You must not
לֹ֥א (lō)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no
lie
תִשְׁכַּ֖ב (ṯiš·kaḇ)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 7901: To lie down
with
וְאֶ֨ת־ (wə·’eṯ-)
Conjunctive waw | Preposition
Strong's 854: Nearness, near, with, by, at, among
a man
זָכָ֔ר (zā·ḵār)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 2145: Remembered, a male
as with
מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י (miš·kə·ḇê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 4904: Place of lying, a couch, act of lying
a woman;
אִשָּׁ֑ה (’iš·šāh)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female
that
הִֽוא׃ (hî)
Pronoun - third person feminine singular
Strong's 1931: He, self, the same, this, that, as, are
[is] an abomination.
תּוֹעֵבָ֖ה (tō·w·‘ê·ḇāh)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 8441: Something disgusting, an abhorrence, idolatry, an idol
Homosexuality among other forms of sexual immorality are sins against God, in a long list of many other sins (murder, extortion, etc.)
There is no blindness like those who refuse to see, there is no ignorance like those who refuse to learn, the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance can learn.
Correct, which is why those apologists really should stop spewing their nonsense as they are not only willfully ignorant but also unable/unwilling to learn.
@JB-ku7uz
Answering and pointing out idiotic nonsense isn't being close minded.
And what I posted is factually correct so nothing close minded about it.
The closed mindedness is squarely in your camp as you people can't and won't hear or learn the opposite viewpoint as each such video shows, and it's even worse as your side cannot even learn simple scientific facts and just misinterpret and misrepresent in order to further your narrative, dishonesty and lies is the way of the religious apologist.
The facts don't care about your feelings.
@JB-ku7uz No you just say that because I don't agree with your position, you have most definitely not said this to anyone in the comments that just says haleluja and amen.
What I have said is factually correct and if you had watched any apologist video and not been completely ignorant about everything you would know this, to go through each and every point of these word salad and gish gallop nonsense videos takes to long so it's easy to just say that these apologists are full of shit cause that is a fact! No matter how often the same thing is rammed down their throat they will turn around and spew the same Fing garbage.
What point do you want to pick up that the apologist said that you agree with and have evidence for?
You should be pointing your words at the apologists in such videos that make wild claims about reality and science and never ever back it up with anything, and if they do it´s like I said misinterpretation, cherry picking, dishonesty and very often just lies.
Do you want to show proof of where science says that everything came from nothing?
@JB-ku7uz Go to ca 2:05 of that video and that should be it, and now point your words at that apologist and tell him that he doesn´t have a clue about his own position or the one he thinks he is arguing against, that is to say if you know either side.
And don´t be bothering those that point out such ignorance and stupidity!
@JB-ku7uz And you then just deflect when I pointed at something as would be expected.
and pointing out ignorance and stupidity makes me sound unintelligent, that is rich and quite amusing.
Why don´t you answer my point and show just how unintelligent I am?
2:05 he goes on after just been handed basically a rebuttal to his point and he still didn´t get it and went on the dishonest/ignorant apologists rant that shows he knows nothing about either position and it is most certain that both have been explained to him countless times!
The kid was clearly not a professional but had good points and did demolished the guy and Cliff being a professional con man may have been well spoken but he just parroted a script of ignorance and bad arguments and even though the interaction wasn´t hostile that doesn´t change that fact.
Hot take but I cannot stand when people ask "who created God" because God is the answer to the original eternal force that caused our universe. The creator of our universe cannot be within space confined to matter or be limited by time. So to ask who created God is ridiculous. If someone created God then he's not God.
They are basically arguing theistic determinism aka Calvinism/Augustiniansim. What's interesting is that the atheist brings up God's knowledge of the future as a proof that God can't allow for free will and still be good- that's exactly how Calvinsts argue for Calvinism.
Creatio ex nihlo Is a theist belief.
Not only Do Christians believe everything came from nothing, they believe a character from a book spoke everything into existence.
I'd like to hear the explanation On how that was done that was so convincing To the folks that believe it.
Oh and the universe starting its initial expansion was not the universe being created.It was something that existed in one state changing into another state.
There has to be a uncaused first cause.
There is either the universe is eternal or God it eternal. Only thing is we have great evidence to suggest the universe isent eternal.
You have absolutely no evidence this god of yours exists nor created anything.
How do you know the components of the universe weren’t always eternal?
@@2l84me8 Evidence suggests that the Universe is expanding at a drastic rate. Any expansion would suggests a time when all the particles in the world were once met together. However, to reason with that is that it is illogical to claim that all the matter together into a single particle would randomly explode in the immense amount of energy that was released into an infinite amount of particles. To continue, there is no evidence that there was a universe previously that compacted into a single particle. Something would have needed to come out of nothing, which in of itself is a irrational thought.
@@cameronreed1021 What is a nothing?
Also, not all matter was present before the expansion.
@@2l84me8 Nothing is the lack of anything, and to say that not all matter was present before expansion literally means some material came out of nothing. Matter can neither be created or destroyed. To say that new matter came from the expansion would disagree with a scientific principle.
@@cameronreed1021 No, it means matter in some form is eternal. No need to shoehorn a god hypothesis. That would be unscientific.
Good answers. Much logic
Bravo for this kid to stand up & question this guy's crap
Some of his rants are stupid beyond comprehension, I understand defending religion is not really possible in a rational discussion, but he just keeps going off on strange tangents that serve no point other than avoiding actually answering any question the kid brings up
@@Scott-fy7fmthe kids is lost and so are the both of you, Jesus loves you come to Christ!
@@Scott-fy7fm he never defends religion though... this is how I know you dont pay attention or comprehend. He defends his faith in christ and backs it up with historical evidence
@@kalenmarshall8692
He flip flops the burden of proof. Asking for scientific evidence for a not God worldview then flipping to a belief stance for his.
@@jasonnoble7302 whoooooo ? Cliffe has never asked for scientific evidence are you brain dead ? Can’t be serious
The young man at the beginning of the video made great points to support Cliff’s premise. The intelligent mind that created order in universe must have existed in time outside of our understanding. He also mentioned most of the world believed in a some kind of god, and then mentioned how Christians live according to their beliefs, but don’t follow the teachings. (Hint: that’s why Jesus had to die!)
This is Pastor Cliff’s genius of forcing these students to face their own intellectual honesty and/or dishonesty. Oh, how I love to see those young minds being challenged and I believe some of them will turn to Christ because they will see that they cannot faithfully live out their worldview. 🙏🏾
It's very, very sad that with all these videos posted, these kids gather not to hear about the gosple or are genuinely curious about God or Jesus, but they are actively trying to refute with all their might that God doesnt exist.
because God wants you to live according to his will and not your own. 😥
He always minimizes Hell. Hell is God actively pouring out his wrath on sinners for all of eternity!
Hell is the consequence of improper use of our free will; separation from God. “Seek and ye shall find”.
@@NathanDJackson Hell is God's pouring out his wrath for all of eternity as punishment for sinning against a Holy Holy Holy God!
JESUS is LORD !!!
GOD!!!
JOHN 1:1
Wrong, do you even know that LORD is used for Yahweh? Jesus is not Yahweh.
Cliffe, God can do everything, and because he is a supernatural God we can not understand everything he does ( God can create a square circle but we will not get it ). God has no limitation!
Good job and respect!👏 🙏
God has No Limitations?
Can God Lie?
Can God be Unjust?
Can God commit Sin?
*NOPE! NOPE! NOPE!*
@@-D-I-V-A- Yes and no. God can not and will not go against His nature...so correct God can not lie, sin, be unjust, etc. But yeah, God can make that squared circle.
@@spacecoastz4026
No, God can't make a Square
Circle! Just like God cannot
make 2+2=5 either! Because
God cannot do the Irrational!
@@-D-I-V-A- He can make the irrational rational. Agree to disagree.
@@spacecoastz4026 Yes Brother!
This ain't nothing to really converse
about! We both going to be going up
to Heaven Brother! I Love You! And
keep spreading The Gospel to many!
Make sure we hangout soon when we
do get up in Heaven! *GOD BLESS!!*
I’m sober ten years thanks to my lord I’m not on meth or herion
Congratulate yourself, mate. You did it.
If you're going to give credit to god for you getting sober, then you should also blame god for getting hooked in the first.
Your achievements and failures are yours, for better and for worse
@@dotpivotal no I’m grateful I haven’t killed anyone yet or myself lol 😂 get it lol 😂 clown 🤡 you won’t even be buried in the ground Lol 😂
@@dotpivotal who would listen to you You got no clue lol 😂 ask why you won’t try You wish you did on the day you die will you be able to fly no you stupid enough to believe the delusional lie so that’s why all you do is cry you want to die I hold my hands high knowing Gods by my side I tried to die no lie I won’t be shy I stand with pride lol 😂 God laughs at the wicked knowing they only have a little time left you fret you live every day in regret I will bet I live like I’m all set bet you are gods dirty little pet Never know what it’s like to be kept lol 😂wait until your last breath I’ll bet you fret
@@giarose6493 It seems like you stopped to late as your brain seems to have gone.
@@skarpheinnsmundsson9741 why are you worry about my error? Why don’t you take a big look in the mirror? Lol 😂
Oooh that ooint about survival of the fittest.... That rewlly helps me. Im daving this video.
With God: Honest Hope ❤
Without God: Honest Despair 😖
It’s that simple
Thank you for speaking the Truth without getting distracted.
Nah…
Christianity is not truth
@jasonnoble7302 Jesus is! He is The Way, The Truth (where all truth is based from) and The Light. So what do you base your claim on?😆
@@AprilAnnette
The universal structure is the foundation for truth
The universal structure reveals objective values and truths by definition
The universal structure reveals its always wrong to kill children
Is it always wrong to kill children by your foundation ?
@@jasonnoble7302
Millions of years never happened.
"It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried."
"It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals."
"How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."
@@AprilAnnettethose kids were excellent. Great that you’re sticking up for them.
Christianity teaches "Love the sinner, not the sin". Everyone is "accepted" to come to Church. But "sin" is not " accepted". Alcoholics, adulters,homosexuals, the boastful, the greedy... all can be transformed by Gods Love.
Please demonstrate one thing wrong with homosexuality without using religion as a reason.
@OMGUKILLKENNY2 Certainly, its unatural and species would become extinct in one generation. (Scientific answer). Without God's moral standards, nothing is "wrong" actually. Not murder,lying,stealing.... There would only be feelings to base what is wrong or right and everything would be subjective.
@@1888CHAD8881 If the entire population became gay sure. However sitting at 6.88 billion and rising people on this planet with less then 10% being gay, our species is not at any risk of extinction. So that reasoning fails there. Would you like to try with something else?
Also I do see you understand that morality is subjective. But a subjective opinion can very much be based on rational thinking. For example I would not like to be murdered, lied to or stolen from. Thus I live in a society of like minded individuals that all share the opinion of those things being wrong, thus collectively reducing the chances of those things happening to us.
@OMGUKILLKENNY2 Not all people think rationally unfortunately, thats why laws were created to put criminals in jail.. thats why we have a military, and also a police force. Why dod you pick homosexualatity specifically out of the sins i listed?
@@1888CHAD8881 Because I have asked many religious people the same question, to name something wrong about it without using religion, and none have ever given a good answer. Thus showing the aspect of religion I hate the most. That the faithful of it are so quick to judge and condemn other people without rational reason to do so.
The arrogant kid explained it perfectly. He and the majority of the world can reject Jesus Christ. They will be granted their eternity separate from Him if that is their wish. God will not force them into Heaven.
But god will force them into hell for all eternity? Is that a better option?
@@2l84me8 God has no choice. He is perfect and must render justice for sins committed. Hell is quarantine where sinners go to be away from God, His angels and humans that accept Jesus as their savior; Jesus died in the place of every sinner that changes their mind and believes in Him (God's Word in human form).
@@phoenixgamer1565 How can your god have no choice if he’s supposed to be all powerful?
I realize the more people try to explain their god, the more weaker and illogical there god is.
@@2l84me8 If someone murdered your mother and they got arrested and went in front of the judge, what would you expect to happen? You would expect the judge to punish the criminal for murdering your mother. Usually life in prison or death sentence. In the same way, God cannot let any sinner walk away. There must be punishment rendered to the sinner. Also, God is not 'all powerful', if you mean God can do anything. God cannot do illogical things, such as make a square circle, or create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it. God also cannot lie. The list goes on.
@@phoenixgamer1565 The punishment should fit the crime and that’s not what your unproven god is doing here at all. Your book threatens people with an eternal punishment for the simple “crime” of not being convinced that jesus did some magic tricks. Your analogy fails completely because no judge gives an eternal punishment, let alone for thought crimes.
You don’t get to pretend you understand how this god functions without first demonstrating this god exists in the first place. What gives this god the right to judge, again?
Your god lies all the time. The first lie he told was to Adam and Eve when he insisted that eating from the tree of knowledge would cause him to die right there and then. Yet, he supposedly lived for another 900 years.
Meaning you’ve contradicted both yourself and your god.
Masterpiece👌🏿💯
Lies, deflection and science denial. Good work Cliffe, showing that you are clueless on reality and science.
Pastor Chris healing stream evident, that God exist
Amen. God bless you Cliffe! It's like a computer program. The creator of a computer program is more intelligent than the program. That programmer exists outside of the program itself. God exists outside of space, time, and matter to create it.
Frank Turk gave a good illustration on this. It’s like knowing the score of a football game that happened the day before. You know what the score is going to be burn it doesn’t have an affect on the free will of the players when you watch it the next day.
The logic used by the rebellious kids in this video assumes order their wv cannot cohesively explain with reality, they must borrow from Christianity's logical, orderly, reasonable, sensible Creator, they have no objective foundation of their own to base any claims they make.