@@tonybryk3312 I'm sorry that you can't read between the lines or understand future implications beyond what you can immediately perceive. But keep communicating with emojis and offering zero perspective!
bro even tho the dragons feel the emotions of their riders they still have their own emotion arrax was angry because he was being hunted in the other hand vhaegar was mad because a little dragon had the guts to attack her
exactly that’s how i took it and look at it. yeah they can feel their riders emotions luce was scared and animals/dragons when they are scared they are dangerous they can lash out and be aggressive so i think his dragon was scared being hunted by vhagar and attacked. vhagar in turned retaliated as now she was pissed. aemond had no intention of killing him.
Arrax was already stressed when he arrived at Storm's End. If you noticed he is not good at flying in storms. Vhagar chasing him just made things worse.
She’s old, short tempered, and doesn’t have the mood to play tease with dragons hundredfold smaller than her size. Like Visenya trained her, she intend to get the job done.
Look at Ceraxes. He mimics Daemons behaviors and follows his will hardly without command. This is best shown in Episode 3 when the Bloodwyrm responds to Daemons pain from getting shot as if he had been injured and when he raises his wing to shield Daemon, using the same motion and limb Daemon had used to move Ceraxes.
The bond between dragon and rider can indeed become that strong. The valyrians used blood sorcery and human sacrifices to create that bond with this dragon bloodline.
@@Beepbeepbeepbe they certainly do, to the point men can worship them as gods, but i believe the bond conveys such things, moving as one somewhat, at least when the dragon agrees. Think of them like cats, trainable? Yes, when they agree to be
No I don’t wonder because he didn’t. Maybe the show wanted to make Aemon seem less terrible but Aemon in the book was all too happy to kill Lucerys and did so with intent.
I like how the show has handled the blank spots in the history. Westerosi history wouldn’t know it was accident or that Arrax did fire first against Lucerys command, it’s details that could color a story greatly especially for people that already know how it plays out generally. Same with Sunfyre and King Aegon showing up to battle history WOULDNT know or care that was also not supposed to happen, or that Aemond fired on Aegon purposely. It would only say Meleys Sunfyre and Vhagar fought, which they did.
Aemond desires were not known in the books At best you can a couple if accounts of his actions at Storms End, but he never declared his true feeling or what actually happened in the air over Storms End
I feel very sad. Because its not only Lucerys that bulleyd him. Aemond was a teen with struggles and his most hated Bully was his big brother. He made fun of them when we have Rhaenyars little childs that was realy only young Kids, who dont get what they realy did. Because of her realy younger Age. I know bullying is a Thing that have no age, but they dont get it. Aegon was the only one that realy know what he did to his younger brother. Its clear that he hated Lucerys for destroying his eye, but this was realy only a fight because he claimed Vhagar. He began the war because he dont get it, that his realy enemy is his big brother.
Books weren't written as a firsthand account. Written from the perspective of maesters who only hear stories and rumors of how things went down. And stories are not always told truthfully and sometimes change over time.
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The way the show portrayed it, I don't think Vhagar disobeyed. The second the fire hit Vhagar Aemond was already yelling for Vhagar to stop, and was probably only feeling panic at what Vhagar was going to do. Viserys said that the idea they control dragons is an illusion, and I agree. I think that they are wild at heart, and Vhagar just got pissed off
Dragons can like lion cubs. I’ve seen cubs behave aggressively with adults without thinking twice. To bad for Arrax. Seems like it would have made a fine mount as an adult?
The Books are written from the Perspective of Unreliable Narrators. GRRM stated this several times in interviews. The show could not be presented that way because it would be too confusing to casual fans.
I disagree with your comment and the reel. Because he literally loses control of the dragon in the show, and it seems like Aemond didn’t actually want to kill Luke. Make it make sense.
Simple example imagine you have a full grown lion whose instinct is still wild but fully trained. Yeah you seemed to control it on others POV while you know exactly that one mistake and your pucked
What inner feelings magical connection to their rider. A dragon attacked vhagar and a natural instinct from then is to attack them back just basic predatory instinct. Even domesticated animals can't completely go against their instincts but a wild animal like lion, tiger is bound to go out of control more times than a domestic and this is dragon the most fierce of any of those creatures.
Nah, they just did what they wanted. it was like a little dog and a big dog. little dog the aggressor, big dog bites little dog in half. story old as time 😂
This is a change from the books I didn't like. Not every character has to be morally grey its OK to have some lean more to the black hat end of the spectrum. Having everything be an accident, a mix up, a misunderstanding, robs characters of agency.
I mean, Per the author himself, all the characters ARE shades of grey, there is no truly evil or truly good person in ASOIAF. So this fits more with what he details the characters are like in the first place.
Again, the book is written from the Perspective of Unreliable Narrators. What the books present (especially in this book) is often just the Narrators opinion of what they think happened. You are claiming Agency in this Book where there is NONE. There is Zero first hand knowledge of this event, it's just a retelling. GRRM has explained this many times in interviews.
Aemond said it himself at the pleasure house: "I've lost my temper". Not control, his temper. He knows Vhagar was acting according HIS emotions, he didn't lose control over her, but over himself
I love any video that starts with ‘ever wondered…’. The answer is always, ‘no’. I’ve never wondered ever in my life. Anyone who gives attention to wonder pays no heed to their blunder. Now if you’ll excuse me, I may chunder.
And now he has to live with regret that he committed the first act of war by killing his own blood by being a kinslayer, knowing that his family are not the true heirs.
His family are the true heirs according to the Law. Viserys thought being King made him above the law which is how we ended up with this situation in the first place.
I never actually thought that he did disobey Aemond. I just thought that he was a bit clumsy egging on the fight with a dragon of that size before it was really battle tested by him or trained for battle with him riding. So I look at this like a clumsy mistake. He probably wanted to scare the shit out of the kid and messed up ROYALLY. Pun definitely intended.😂
🤔 Well they could pickup on emotions but I'm sure they have their own hierarchy and behavior amongst themselves. A tarantula female is more likely to kill (and eat) a male if he runs. I had a horse who was so sweet regularly but would be ready to punt the boys into next week when she was in season. Chickens have pecking orders. So perhaps in a heated situation like this they are acting as they would naturally.
Stop comparing with the book y'all😂 Aemond choose to chase Luce, shortly after Luce departed Aemond had wanted an eye for an eye for so long Aemond had Vhagar, and Vhagar had him, so getting attacked would not only trigger Vhagar's wrath but also her desire to keep her rider safe. Luce were spooked, and not in control of himself, Arrax seem to reflect this After some time, Luce turned around with Arrax, heading towards their chaser, and had ascended from low level flight Arrax attacked Vhagar, from this position, which could be Arrax panic respond or/and the riders wish Vhagar took/gave no second chances and striked the vital spot of Arrax/Luce Once Arrax attacked, Vhagar could assume it to be a serious fight to the death If Aemond gave chase, what was his idea? Maybe Vhagar sensed his bloodlust? For it is likely Aemond meant to do more than simply scare his sisterson once the chase began, but to force Luce admit defeat and face humiliation back on land. Though shaken by the abrupt end of Luce and Arrax, I would argue that Aemond meant to have Luce hurt in some capacity based on what is seen and read between the lines of his actions. It was merely accidental that Vhagar would go for the one shot blow, and Aemond could not stop her from doing as she saw fit. Arrax would listen to Luce, and take his rider to safety above the clouds. Unfortunatly this gave Vhagar the edge she needed. She spotted her target first, not Aemond, thus she bit before Aemond could have intervene Aemond would know that his action was a serious one, one that he was responsible of, and that Luces fate was too brutal, but it also had impact for his family dynamic. He was supposed be in control of the situation and his dragon, and he failed himself. It was not supposed to go this far. And now he knows his dragon's potential to bring death
They making the show characters much more tragic…. As seen with blood & cheese / Alicent crowning her son because of miscommunication instead of hunger for power / this scene…. Don’t really know if I like it. In the Book everybody is coldblooded I think I like that more
Season 1: oh no aemond accidentally ate someone with his dragon oopsie Season 2: aemond tries to kill his brother and usurp the crown 100% on purpose no second thought Damn it’s crazy how fast the narrative can change to suit the episodes 😂😂
Cut the crap. The show made a villain out of Vhagar, by making Aemond look sad about killing Lucerys. But in the book Aemond knew exactly what he was doing by unleashing Vhagar on Luke & Arrax.
He didn't disobey ( only in the stupid TV show he did ) , In books they both were happy finishing enemy and after that finding his body and ripping out his eye!
Arrax blew fire on the nose of aemonds dragon thats why the wild dragon killed both luc and arrax … aemond was trying to stop it but now he’s forced the name kinslayer
In my opinion, both dragons got out of control because their riders were half-blood Targaryen. I believe that this is where the Valyrian tradition of incestuous marriages came from, so as not to mix blood because only the Valyrians can fully control the dragons.
Vhagar didn't disobeyed. the show makers want to balance both sides green and black. If they showed Aemon intentionally killed luk, then greens were considered totally wrong side.
If vhagar loved Laena then why was it so easy for vhagar to kill Laenas Mother Rhaenys ? I wanted to see some conflict in vhagar eyes and some struggle because vhagar still has love for Laena and she doesn't want to hurt her Mother. I was disappointed.
Dear Lord I swear even though I love this show so darn much we talk about dragons like their true and real and as if we know their feelings because we lived with them come on people let's get back to reality
Yea, if my cousin aged nephew cut my eye out because of words as kids, I'd be mad a LONG ass time as well. What kind of kid cuts another kids eye out anyway. And when Luke come in there making excuses for aggravated assault and battery his mom did not care at all and only cared he'd been called a bastard by his cousin aged uncle. You can't just cut the eyes out of people who make you mad and him not getting in any trouble for that or anything...such a spoiled brat. I'm team black but 100% understand team green
They were fighting, and Aemond was winning a 4v1 and threatening to kill Jacaerys. Unless you don’t have your own siblings, then you can understand why Lucerys did that to defend his brother. Also from the point of view of Rhaenyra’s and Daemon’s children, who are betrothed to each other, Aemond actually did steal Vaghar. He took her before any of the lords had a chance to discuss, and it was immediately after the death of Baela’s mother. To them, Vaghar was their dragon to tame and belonged to their family. Aemond knew what he was doing. He’s always had a chip on his shoulder because Luke, Jace, and Aegon always taunted him for not having a dragon. Stealing Vaghar was his way of getting back at them.
Bs. The dragons do what they want. If this is the case, daemon's dragon would have annihilated otto etc. Vhaegar just didn't take any sh** thats why she reacted
Makes no sense vhagar even catching up 😂 what is this BS any fast dragon can kill vhagar but that would be boring but factually accurate vhagar a fat slow dragon
How is this a question ? No one person remember Rhaenyra or Viserys saying the idea the we control dragons is an ilusion ? Im sure the Black team will forget this out of convinience like everything else 😂😂😂😂
Nah, not true. Aemond didn't want Lucerys to die. He didn't even want to blind Lucerys. And in the series its actually Aemond that was constantly.bullied
The Targaryens actually were able to control their dragons. Viserys was a reluctant dragon rider and thought of himself as a Dreamer. Valyrians would have gone extinct long before the Doom if they weren't able to control their dragons.
Didn't euron greyjoy come back from valyria with a magic horn that could control dragons. Targaryns should have brought some of them with them when they fled the doom of valyira.
Glad those magic horn story lines were ignored in the tv series because they are utter trash. A horn that can bring down the Wall. A horn that can control dragons. Nah!
BS! Araxx attack vagar cause he senses fear on Luke his just being a protective good boy! He didn’t attack vagar cause Luke wanna attack aemon! Pay attention of the details and stop making up BS! Arrax is simply being a protective good boy! Luke is not that stupid to even challenge or piss off vagar! Imagine having chuwawa against a massive pitbull?
Actually, the little bastard looked terrified when he took his eye lol. How old was he? Like 5? Also, he has looked terrified ever since (minus the dinner with the pig).
Sansa Stark: What do dragons eat anyway?
Daenaerys Targaryen: Whatever they want.
That little shit of a stark girl, learned nothing and assumed being sassy is acting clever
It was a good sentence. Snow series will never happen. I'm sad also about this. Let's move on.
@@n1k32h You're sad that they're not going to further butcher the GoT storyline? It's a mercy.
@raiusdaltar1483 oh yes because the got world feels such pain if a bad show is made 😂 you ok pal? Maybe just don't watch it?
@@tonybryk3312 I'm sorry that you can't read between the lines or understand future implications beyond what you can immediately perceive. But keep communicating with emojis and offering zero perspective!
bro even tho the dragons feel the emotions of their riders they still have their own emotion arrax was angry because he was being hunted in the other hand vhaegar was mad because a little dragon had the guts to attack her
Exactly! I'll bet Vhagar was like "I know this young buck didn't spit fire at me."
Aemond: "Vhagar, NO!"
Vhagar: "shut up, his little ass is mine!"
exactly that’s how i took it and look at it. yeah they can feel their riders emotions luce was scared and animals/dragons when they are scared they are dangerous they can lash out and be aggressive so i think his dragon was scared being hunted by vhagar and attacked. vhagar in turned retaliated as now she was pissed. aemond had no intention of killing him.
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"shut up one eye visenya i got this"👵
@@RAMI-m4wI love that the fandom still think of Vhagar as an old dragoness with a slight case of dementia.
Arrax was already stressed when he arrived at Storm's End. If you noticed he is not good at flying in storms. Vhagar chasing him just made things worse.
She’s old, short tempered, and doesn’t have the mood to play tease with dragons hundredfold smaller than her size. Like Visenya trained her, she intend to get the job done.
Look at Ceraxes. He mimics Daemons behaviors and follows his will hardly without command. This is best shown in Episode 3 when the Bloodwyrm responds to Daemons pain from getting shot as if he had been injured and when he raises his wing to shield Daemon, using the same motion and limb Daemon had used to move Ceraxes.
When dragons bond to their riders they can feel their pain
CAraxes
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The bond between dragon and rider can indeed become that strong. The valyrians used blood sorcery and human sacrifices to create that bond with this dragon bloodline.
Caraxes was a very aggressive dragon ever since aemond got an arrow through the neck.
Because a dragon is not a slave
The dragon did what he knew his owner wanted to do
@@karenmartin8894nah dragons have a mind of their own. If you had read the books you’d know Daenerys failed to control dragon at times
@@Beepbeepbeepbe they certainly do, to the point men can worship them as gods, but i believe the bond conveys such things, moving as one somewhat, at least when the dragon agrees. Think of them like cats, trainable? Yes, when they agree to be
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I heard this in High Valyrian.
First of all, a dragon is not a pet. A dragon is a living animal that has free will to do what they want.
As is a pet
@frijofroisdeern3783 Fair enough.
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@@frijofroisdeern3783but a pet dont have free will, if you train it good enough 😂
Dragons are imaginary dum dum
No I don’t wonder because he didn’t. Maybe the show wanted to make Aemon seem less terrible but Aemon in the book was all too happy to kill Lucerys and did so with intent.
Those words were written by a Master. He projected his own hatred onto Aemond
There's no proof of that
Yes,this is spot on,dragons feel what their rider feels. You can only bond and feel the same. You can’t control a dragon
I like how the show has handled the blank spots in the history. Westerosi history wouldn’t know it was accident or that Arrax did fire first against Lucerys command, it’s details that could color a story greatly especially for people that already know how it plays out generally. Same with Sunfyre and King Aegon showing up to battle history WOULDNT know or care that was also not supposed to happen, or that Aemond fired on Aegon purposely. It would only say Meleys Sunfyre and Vhagar fought, which they did.
Aemond desires were not known in the books
At best you can a couple if accounts of his actions at Storms End, but he never declared his true feeling or what actually happened in the air over Storms End
I feel very sad. Because its not only Lucerys that bulleyd him. Aemond was a teen with struggles and his most hated Bully was his big brother. He made fun of them when we have Rhaenyars little childs that was realy only young Kids, who dont get what they realy did. Because of her realy younger Age. I know bullying is a Thing that have no age, but they dont get it. Aegon was the only one that realy know what he did to his younger brother. Its clear that he hated Lucerys for destroying his eye, but this was realy only a fight because he claimed Vhagar. He began the war because he dont get it, that his realy enemy is his big brother.
Vhagar never disobeyed. Everyone knows that Aemond commanded the attack in the book.
Books weren't written as a firsthand account. Written from the perspective of maesters who only hear stories and rumors of how things went down. And stories are not always told truthfully and sometimes change over time.
And pais Aegon's son as a debt😍
@@robertchasteen9909 And TV series was created as a story based on this maesters stories ... 😂
Usually, takes on the lore are silly and ignorant. However, this one makes sense, and i like it. Good job!
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The way the show portrayed it, I don't think Vhagar disobeyed. The second the fire hit Vhagar Aemond was already yelling for Vhagar to stop, and was probably only feeling panic at what Vhagar was going to do. Viserys said that the idea they control dragons is an illusion, and I agree. I think that they are wild at heart, and Vhagar just got pissed off
Dragons can like lion cubs. I’ve seen cubs behave aggressively with adults without thinking twice.
To bad for Arrax. Seems like it would have made a fine mount as an adult?
Makes sense as there is a connection between the rider and his dragon .
In the books he really wanted to kill Luke……..the show changed this.
Right
The Books are written from the Perspective of Unreliable Narrators.
GRRM stated this several times in interviews.
The show could not be presented that way because it would be too confusing to casual fans.
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It is like controlling a fire. You can start it but you can't put it out. Oh and it's 200ft long.
Aemond's wrath is what started the war, the dance of the dragons. What would have happened if he had just let Lucerys go?
What did Vicerys say? The Dragons aren't slaves they do what they want
They Dragon felt his true emotions and acted as such most know this 😂😂😂
No king, this time Queen rule, great msg
Those kids could’ve benefitted from having Daemon as a father from the beginning. They should’ve eloped. 😓 Screw Viserys
Bad take
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Yeah extremely bad lol Daemon is a terrible father to his own children!!
In the books Daemon gets his revenge on Aemond by jumping off Caraxes and Superman’s his sword through Aemonds blue eye while he’s on Vaghar
Nope . They controlling the dragons it's just an a illusion .
So...yes. Vhagar disobeys because 1) the idea that anyone controls a dragon is an illusion; and 2) a dragon is not a slave.
I disagree with your comment and the reel. Because he literally loses control of the dragon in the show, and it seems like Aemond didn’t actually want to kill Luke. Make it make sense.
Aemond just wanted to scare luke,he didn't mean to kill him thats why aemonds face looked so shocked in the end
Simple example imagine you have a full grown lion whose instinct is still wild but fully trained. Yeah you seemed to control it on others POV while you know exactly that one mistake and your pucked
@Kev_4068 I feel like alligators are more fitting here, but yes, I see your point and agree. Still tho this channel isn't as bad as Our Hilts Hurt
What inner feelings magical connection to their rider. A dragon attacked vhagar and a natural instinct from then is to attack them back just basic predatory instinct. Even domesticated animals can't completely go against their instincts but a wild animal like lion, tiger is bound to go out of control more times than a domestic and this is dragon the most fierce of any of those creatures.
Nah, they just did what they wanted. it was like a little dog and a big dog. little dog the aggressor, big dog bites little dog in half. story old as time 😂
This is a change from the books I didn't like. Not every character has to be morally grey its OK to have some lean more to the black hat end of the spectrum. Having everything be an accident, a mix up, a misunderstanding, robs characters of agency.
They just wanted to have a fan war... which keeps the series engaged with fans ...like Danny and John ..
Sansa and danny fan wars do
I mean, Per the author himself, all the characters ARE shades of grey, there is no truly evil or truly good person in ASOIAF. So this fits more with what he details the characters are like in the first place.
This is better writing. Fleshes out the lore between Targaryen & dragons
Again, the book is written from the Perspective of Unreliable Narrators.
What the books present (especially in this book) is often just the Narrators opinion of what they think happened.
You are claiming Agency in this Book where there is NONE.
There is Zero first hand knowledge of this event, it's just a retelling.
GRRM has explained this many times in interviews.
@@rev0568 The Mountain felt pretty evil to me. He was burning his brother as a child for playing with his toy. I don’t see any gray there.
Even if Aemond felt himself guilty when he kills Lucerys. When he comes back to Kings Landing, he doesn't seem preoccupied more than that.
Aemond said it himself at the pleasure house: "I've lost my temper". Not control, his temper. He knows Vhagar was acting according HIS emotions, he didn't lose control over her, but over himself
They are bonded together
I love any video that starts with ‘ever wondered…’. The answer is always, ‘no’. I’ve never wondered ever in my life. Anyone who gives attention to wonder pays no heed to their blunder. Now if you’ll excuse me, I may chunder.
And now he has to live with regret that he committed the first act of war by killing his own blood by being a kinslayer, knowing that his family are not the true heirs.
His family are the true heirs according to the Law.
Viserys thought being King made him above the law which is how we ended up with this situation in the first place.
I never actually thought that he did disobey Aemond. I just thought that he was a bit clumsy egging on the fight with a dragon of that size before it was really battle tested by him or trained for battle with him riding. So I look at this like a clumsy mistake. He probably wanted to scare the shit out of the kid and messed up ROYALLY. Pun definitely intended.😂
Spot on! 🎯
So in the books its told in the point of view of the misters so we dont know exactly what went on
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The episode clearly shows aemond commanding vhagar to stop and obey, making this question pointless.
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🤔 Well they could pickup on emotions but I'm sure they have their own hierarchy and behavior amongst themselves. A tarantula female is more likely to kill (and eat) a male if he runs. I had a horse who was so sweet regularly but would be ready to punt the boys into next week when she was in season. Chickens have pecking orders. So perhaps in a heated situation like this they are acting as they would naturally.
Stop comparing with the book y'all😂
Aemond choose to chase Luce, shortly after Luce departed
Aemond had wanted an eye for an eye for so long
Aemond had Vhagar, and Vhagar had him, so getting attacked would not only trigger Vhagar's wrath but also her desire to keep her rider safe.
Luce were spooked, and not in control of himself, Arrax seem to reflect this
After some time, Luce turned around with Arrax, heading towards their chaser, and had ascended from low level flight
Arrax attacked Vhagar, from this position, which could be Arrax panic respond or/and the riders wish
Vhagar took/gave no second chances and striked the vital spot of Arrax/Luce
Once Arrax attacked, Vhagar could assume it to be a serious fight to the death
If Aemond gave chase, what was his idea? Maybe Vhagar sensed his bloodlust?
For it is likely Aemond meant to do more than simply scare his sisterson once the chase began, but to force Luce admit defeat and face humiliation back on land.
Though shaken by the abrupt end of Luce and Arrax, I would argue that Aemond meant to have Luce hurt in some capacity based on what is seen and read between the lines of his actions. It was merely accidental that Vhagar would go for the one shot blow, and Aemond could not stop her from doing as she saw fit.
Arrax would listen to Luce, and take his rider to safety above the clouds. Unfortunatly this gave Vhagar the edge she needed. She spotted her target first, not Aemond, thus she bit before Aemond could have intervene
Aemond would know that his action was a serious one, one that he was responsible of, and that Luces fate was too brutal, but it also had impact for his family dynamic. He was supposed be in control of the situation and his dragon, and he failed himself. It was not supposed to go this far. And now he knows his dragon's potential to bring death
The dragons both said “you know u want this”
Even IF the dragons had been pets, pets disobey too sometimes. Every creature with a brain of its own can't be controlled to a hundred percent.
They mirror the riders emotions if you’re pissed off so is your dragon
They making the show characters much more tragic…. As seen with blood & cheese / Alicent crowning her son because of miscommunication instead of hunger for power / this scene…. Don’t really know if I like it. In the Book everybody is coldblooded I think I like that more
yea sure that's why aemon got scared shitless when vhagar killed luc
This makes 100% sense
Martin didn't make the dragons intelligent, magical or immortal like they should be, he wrote them as stupid and weak. It's actually quite shameful.
Really
Season 1: oh no aemond accidentally ate someone with his dragon oopsie
Season 2: aemond tries to kill his brother and usurp the crown 100% on purpose no second thought
Damn it’s crazy how fast the narrative can change to suit the episodes 😂😂
Dragons are weapons and emotions are their charger
Its a book adapation, in the books he intentionally killed lucerys, unintnetional in the shownfor shock factir
This is the point where vhagar lose to ceraxes becasue their rider connection way different. Daemon connected well with ceraxes not like Aemond
Cut the crap. The show made a villain out of Vhagar, by making Aemond look sad about killing Lucerys. But in the book Aemond knew exactly what he was doing by unleashing Vhagar on Luke & Arrax.
This is why you don't play childish games on the backs of dragons. People die because they are grave and serious even when we are puny and false
😂when reliazation of it was just story....and you are giving justification and logics for the characters in it.
He might off been playing But she wasnt.
All this is Visery’s fault, that eye issue was never truly settled😂
He didn't disobey ( only in the stupid TV show he did ) , In books they both were happy finishing enemy and after that finding his body and ripping out his eye!
"Fed up from the constant bullying" is hilarious as he was the bully 😂
“They are intelligent creatures”
GRRM: “They’re big dumb animals” 😂😂😂
Without riders they're truly are 😂😂
Arrax blew fire on the nose of aemonds dragon thats why the wild dragon killed both luc and arrax … aemond was trying to stop it but now he’s forced the name kinslayer
In my opinion, both dragons got out of control because their riders were half-blood Targaryen. I believe that this is where the Valyrian tradition of incestuous marriages came from, so as not to mix blood because only the Valyrians can fully control the dragons.
Vhagar didn't disobeyed. the show makers want to balance both sides green and black. If they showed Aemon intentionally killed luk, then greens were considered totally wrong side.
revenge for what ? the boy bullied him his entire childhood and took his eye what else would he want revenge for ?
Didn’t he get a dragon for that eye 👁️?…revenge for what…
If vhagar loved Laena then why was it so easy for vhagar to kill Laenas Mother Rhaenys ? I wanted to see some conflict in vhagar eyes and some struggle because vhagar still has love for Laena and she doesn't want to hurt her Mother. I was disappointed.
Dear Lord I swear even though I love this show so darn much we talk about dragons like their true and real and as if we know their feelings because we lived with them come on people let's get back to reality
What revenge was Lucerys seeking?
Vhagar looks more like a reptile than dragon 😂😂
Yea, if my cousin aged nephew cut my eye out because of words as kids, I'd be mad a LONG ass time as well. What kind of kid cuts another kids eye out anyway. And when Luke come in there making excuses for aggravated assault and battery his mom did not care at all and only cared he'd been called a bastard by his cousin aged uncle. You can't just cut the eyes out of people who make you mad and him not getting in any trouble for that or anything...such a spoiled brat. I'm team black but 100% understand team green
They were fighting, and Aemond was winning a 4v1 and threatening to kill Jacaerys. Unless you don’t have your own siblings, then you can understand why Lucerys did that to defend his brother. Also from the point of view of Rhaenyra’s and Daemon’s children, who are betrothed to each other, Aemond actually did steal Vaghar. He took her before any of the lords had a chance to discuss, and it was immediately after the death of Baela’s mother. To them, Vaghar was their dragon to tame and belonged to their family. Aemond knew what he was doing. He’s always had a chip on his shoulder because Luke, Jace, and Aegon always taunted him for not having a dragon. Stealing Vaghar was his way of getting back at them.
@@cosmantur2683you can't steal dragons😂😂
Am I the only one that doesn't realize that aemond started what happened to his eye
So technically they are pets?
Because that never happened in the book
This scene was crazy asf rip newphew
That ain't true, a dragon is not a slave, the dragons were beyond their control at that moment.
Cyrax is the most intelligent one for that
aemond didnt attack first arrax did he blew fire and pissed the dragon off lol not aemond's fault
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Bs. The dragons do what they want. If this is the case, daemon's dragon would have annihilated otto etc.
Vhaegar just didn't take any sh** thats why she reacted
Makes no sense vhagar even catching up 😂 what is this BS any fast dragon can kill vhagar but that would be boring but factually accurate vhagar a fat slow dragon
Aemond was bullied not luce.
Vhagar is slow as a turtle.. any army can shoot it down with scorpions..
Vhagar is a war dragon.
a dragon is not a slave
How is this a question ?
No one person remember Rhaenyra or Viserys saying the idea the we control dragons is an ilusion ?
Im sure the Black team will forget this out of convinience like everything else 😂😂😂😂
Nah, not true. Aemond didn't want Lucerys to die. He didn't even want to blind Lucerys. And in the series its actually Aemond that was constantly.bullied
So i guess his nephew getting his dragon to hit his uncle dragon with that light fire attack had nothing to do with it.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's like asking your husky to not chase a rabbit.
The Targaryens actually were able to control their dragons. Viserys was a reluctant dragon rider and thought of himself as a Dreamer. Valyrians would have gone extinct long before the Doom if they weren't able to control their dragons.
He was too low level to command a level 100 pokemon.
Didn't euron greyjoy come back from valyria with a magic horn that could control dragons.
Targaryns should have brought some of them with them when they fled the doom of valyira.
Glad those magic horn story lines were ignored in the tv series because they are utter trash.
A horn that can bring down the Wall.
A horn that can control dragons.
Nah!
BS! Araxx attack vagar cause he senses fear on Luke his just being a protective good boy! He didn’t attack vagar cause Luke wanna attack aemon! Pay attention of the details and stop making up BS! Arrax is simply being a protective good boy! Luke is not that stupid to even challenge or piss off vagar! Imagine having chuwawa against a massive pitbull?
R U retarded?
Pets??? I don't think so 🤔
A dragon with the right rider will fly anywhere.
Is this book or show cannon
Not true it attached vegar in panic
Lucerys was no loss. 😂
Aemond did nothing wrong at all, the little bastard got what was coming to him.
Yeah and that one eyed hobo is about to get return gift.
The bastard was scared and he lives in bullying uncle. You seems a bully racist guy! I noticed😳
@@genose5767 at least he takes his old groomer uncle with him.
@@BrookScottOfficial the little bastard wasn’t scared when he took his eye as children. Where did me being a racist come into to play?
Actually, the little bastard looked terrified when he took his eye lol. How old was he? Like 5? Also, he has looked terrified ever since (minus the dinner with the pig).