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"That's the wonderful and terrible thing about Technology. It changes everything."
Here is the thing, Haber didn’t just invent how to make fertiliser. He invented the method to capture nitrogen into a usable form from the atmosphere. This was a huge deal in chemistry as nitrogen is one of the most useful elements in compounds but because it is almost non-reactive in its pure form, it’s not very abundant in usable form. He invention probably has not only countless from starvation but also in directly even more through cheap organic compounds we use everyday that contain nitrogen.
In regards to the works of Fritz Haber and their effects on the world:
“Change, after all, is neither innately benevolent nor malevolent, but it sure as shitterling isn’t the same as it was before.”
He won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry, not the Peace Prize. His work is very much the reason the world's population was able to grow to what it is, as food was otherwise severely limited compared to population. He actively developed the weaponisation of it too, and did not regret it as it was a means to accelerate victory for Germany at a lesser cost of life, but of course, it didn't end up being that simple and chemical warfare wasn't the kind of game changer as expected.
He's allowed billions to live as you say, on the other hand he was a big catalyst for war crime weapons that have at least injured hundreds of thousands - and he didn't regret it. He was also Jewish and a target of the Nazis when they took over, who eventually forced him out of his field, leading to him leaving Germany. The Nazis would later use his weapons against his own people in many of the concentration camps - though he didn't live to see that ultimate horror.
Sabaton is an amazing band, "price of a mile" brings me to tears, "in the name of God" and "art of war" are heavy, while ones like "winged hussars" and "the last stand" are downright epic. They did a pretty good Rammstein cover as well.
When tf did they cover Rammstein
@@dj11o9er while back they did feuer frei
Sinner or a saint?, I would call him a human he makes things not fully realising completely their effects all in a bid to make the world a better place whether they be weapons to 'hopefully' end the war quicker or the method to feed the world, in his heart he is an still is human driven by the want to help and change, by perceived benefits or consequences, I call no sinner or saint, I call him human.
War is terrible thing, it turns friends from both countries into soldiers fighting on both sides and in all honesty I think he gets flashes of the day he taught the soldiers how to use his weapon from time to time and the on set of the second world war those memories rushed back to him, most likely one of the many things causing his death by heart attack.
Rest in peace to the sir scientist, as much a soldier as a he was a researcher.
The moral gray perspective. Now thats respectable
I completely agree with you however he did fully support chemical warfare and was against it's ban .
@@insinorator3247 Yeah, that affects the moral assessment.
He was a Human that wanted to Help people. During peace he helped everybody and during War he helped his Country.
You could maybe accuse him of a slight lack of empathy.
Papa Nurgle was whispering in his ear :)
Papa nurgle was away from him cause big E was about to smack that thing
I love it when Sabaton does darker or slower songs. They have a way of making the beat itself threatening and intimidating. Rise of Evil, Dreadnought, The Final Solution, Whermacht, Panzerkampf, so many good ones.
They hold even more weight knowing most of the things they sing about actually happened, at least in their war songs.
Given that the song is trying to frame a question to the listener, I feel it fails to adequately go into the help and focuses a little too heavily on the harm, leading towards a bias being instilled in new listeners. When I heard, I assumed his peace time claim to fame was pesticides before commenters informed me that no, it was the process that allowed mass ammonia production, which has other moral and ethical questions, namely the depletion of soil nutrients/reliance on fertilizer to feed a population past reasonable size annnnnnnd the people who've died to ammonia based explosions, botth deliberate and not. Though some estimates apparently credit about half of our current populations to him and the guy who refined the work. That is arguably a lot of good.
So.... I don't know.
Just don't forget Mr. Bosch and his catalyst added to the process. If we praise and/or condemn Haber, we need to consider the role of Bosch.
I think we could only sustain something like 2 or 3 Billion people without mass-produced fertilizers. The world would be unrecognizable without the Haber-Bosh process.
@@aregulargamer1 I'm just parroting what I've read once. I honestly don't know. I just know that it's not without long term ecological cost, and that the population needs to be carefully lowered by people choosing to have fewer kids. We can't sustain this many, let alone keep growing the population.
@@bthsr7113 Yeah, we're 100% turbo-fucked. Lmao.
@@aregulargamer1 at this rate? Probably. Not a certain thing, but we are cutting things way too close if we haven't missed the window entirely.
@@bthsr7113 - I don't know if there's much point in replying to what is, at this point, a comment over a year old, but in regards to the overpopulation problem, there is some cause for hope.
Provided that the entire world ends up reaching Western world standards of living and similar-ish societal norms people will inevitably engage in family planning and have fewer kids. The entire Western world, with some exceptions, currently faces a demographic decline which will lead to falling populations over the next 50 to 100 years. Last I heard Korea and Japan are the worst off, for whatever reason.
Call it by the beginning of the 2100s we'll have plateaued. Now if the world's entire population is to have the same standard of living as we do in the West and parts of Asia that brings with it a whole bunch of other problems concerning resource scarcity, power requirements, and environmental effects.
However, I believe, and hope, that this is where colonizing other planets will save us. At first, the moon, which is, to my knowledge, more of a net loss except for the ability to use it as a staging ground for further exploration, but then followed by Mars. Perhaps we'll go straight to Mars, but I have seen plans in the works to do both. If we manage to come up with the tech to terraform Mars we'll have a whole other planet to both populate and extract resources from. There are a few other celestial bodies in the solar system as well that look promising at least as far as being a source for raw materials. Some of.. I think Jupiter's and/or Saturn's moons unless I misremember. Eventually, I'd be very surprised if we do not figure out some way of traveling outside our own solar system to colonize other planets in the Goldilocks zone around other stars.
That is if we don't somehow push that big red button and blow ourselves up, but I do not think we currently (and hopefully ever) have anyone crazy enough to do so. Not even the asshole currently in the Kremlin.
This song is how I feel after replacing the liquid inside someone's vape with a mixture of bleach and ammonia.
Please don't actually do that
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Its for some weird reason funny how people make some new invention and genius in military be like "Lets make a mass destruction weapon out of it"
Were did you get that SCP-999 plush? Now I want one it's very very cute.
Also this is a very very strong song.
I live in the US so I learned about some of this stuff, I thought and still think that it was one of the most evil thing's in the world,
I'm really really happy that it was band, and sad to say there is still a lot of toxic gas in the world, At lest I think there is anyway not sure on that I hope it's less then we all think.
Wow I got dark really fast didn't I?
Sinner or a saint? A good deed wont cancel a bad deed... sinner or a saint? Yes he was...
Most excellent yes yes Thanqoul likes yes yes
chapeau!
'Father of Chemical Warfare'.. WHo started using chemicals on mass scale in WW1?
The French.
Who was the first one to use toxic chemicals in WW1 AFTER the french did it?
Germany.
Who takes the blame for all chemical wars now? Germany.
Wtf happend here? xD
Yes France was the first one to use gas but they used tear gas, which wasn't lethal and wasn't that useful. The Germans introduced Chlorine which was extremely lethal and performed so well the Germans were that surprised they didn't gain any ground upon first use
@@SkittlesKid German see french use gas. Oh? How can we imporve this? Use toxic gas. more useful? yes and no.
Same thing as when Germany gets blamed for WW-I.
@@UchihaItachi211 That was Austria, not France.
@@bthsr7113 Depends on the perspective. Do you count the assassination of Duke Ferdinand and his pregnant wife as the spark that lit up the war? If so, the origin was Serbia along with their French backers. If you count the official declaration of war, then Austria started the War. It can be either or.
Well, as I said elsewhere, Einstein did something similar and we got over it.
Einstein didn't
getting to the oppenheimer talk. saw the medical reports and pictures of the victims. and whoever can determine the worth of it all? not haber though. german scientists had a knack for getting too deep into propaganda fed warfare too often.
all he did was his job