If I say she's chosen to stay in an abusive relationship because she is addicted to chaos and can't even fathom "healing herself", I might be called "victim blamey" If I say "hope she heals", I may sound brainwashey, as if therapy was a telepathic power that erased the flaws we dislike or even despise of other people If I say HyunA is just a bad person, I might get accussed of not seeing her as a complex or messy human like all of us. So.... Maybe I'm gonna give up and let her be, for she's an adult who has agency over herself, and let her carve her tomb. I should feel sorry for Hara and Dawn, I think they're taking the brunt of her poor choices the most
Dont forget that Hyuna isnt just dating a scum bag, but also her deceased friend's toxic ex that most likey contributed to her death. Removing the element of the burning sun scandal, that still is bad. Adding the scandal makes it dispicable and its so insulting. I liked her music, I still do, but i removed all songs of hers. I just sinply cannot, in good conscience, even hear her voice.
@@zoutheinaabbas1003 honestly, a couple months ago I did not understand why people were hating on her because I was oblivious to what was happening, now that I do, I feel the same way you do. 😔😟
@@norabeckwith9154 as I said, the issue isn't her dating. It's WHO she is dating. Look into the scandal and this guy's history. And you can understand why it's an issue. She is free to date who she wants, but I am free to not listen to her music If the person she wants to be with is a criminal that didn't get convicted simply cuz of circumstances and Korean society(for a lack of a better term). Hyuna has made a significant impact in Kpop since 2nd gen(when I got into Kpop), no one is denying that. But I won't deny either her dating a known scum bag. 🤷♀️
Thank you! I saw the news about Jennie on Insta and some people legit commented things like 'she's a grown up leave her alone', 'okay so what', like did these people not read the word 'indoors'. If she want to vape and get cancer, that's her choice. But she shouldn't vape in front of other people, especially not her employees, and put them at risk.
Jennie was collaborating with child predator and ex offender Edison Chen literally a few weeks ago lmao maybe people should get their priorities straight and call her out for that too😭
@@rainbowsubs2 well I think she should apologize for both since it was selfish and disrespectful for endangering someone else's health to 2nd hand smoke for her own pleasure but i mean underrated as in this comment should be more popular and there for noticed and talked about bc if this was anyone else I promise u that they would have recieved more backlash or been called out for this kind of stuff.
Essentially, by dating and marrying him, she's showing that she doesn't think his involvement was a big deal. I've seen people get confused and misunderstand some of the details to think they are more extreme. But honestly to me, what he did is bad enough on it's own. I've seen other people try and lessen what he did. Try and make excuses. That's infuriating. If you don't think it's a big deal, you are on the same page as HyunA, and I can't understand that, but don't lie about what happened to try and make him look better. Ridiculous. She's made her choice. She is okay with how he reacted, what he said... She's lost a lot of fans.
She is being literally someone who is perpetrating that at this point she is guilty too idc, and honestly his bf (soon husband) bff is now in liberty and trying to make another burning sun in Europe France specifically, a girl saw him and talk to him and he wants to do another one in lyron France
I just don't get it , how does hyuna feel comfortable dating or even marrying a man who watched women get rated and abused?? Does she not feel scared of him and what he can do to others or her even??
my other comment got deleted [for some reason] but it said apex predators [heavy emphasis on the last word] are usually not only married but friends with people who are fully aware of the stuff they do.
Hyuna, girl, why😀 out of all people why him, the red flags are flying and you're literally swating them out of the way😀 I'm 16 and I can see the red flags flying and just the straight up problems this thing is creating😟
The thing with Hyuna for me, outside of her just dating that dude, is that she is doing it so publicly. It feels like an f u to people impacted by the scandal, her dead friend, and practically anyone who has experienced the same things. It would still be a heinous decision, but the absolute least she could do is date that dude privately 😭 like I don't want to remember he exists, let alone that she is with him. Maybe it's just because she is a celebrity and she obviously likes having public relationships, but it feels so icky that her need to have a public relationship seems more important than the comfort and well being of vicitims. Even if somehow that dude is a completely changed person, I don't think that justifies her proudly and happily dating him. He was literally involved in one of the worst scandals and crimes in recent korean entertainment history. Why is she so comfortable reminding people of those crimes by publicly dating him? 🤢 It's giving Nicki Minaj dating that predator and proudly defending predators. I honestly would prefer Hyuna being more upfront like Nicki, instead of being in lala land about it like it never happened. Like girl, you know and we know so stop acting like nothing happened. And the dude she is dating is also in lala land about it. Instead of publicly dating Hyuna, he should be publicly donating and speaking against r@pe culture in Korea, paying back victims for how he handled the situations in the past. Both of them are icky and misguided.
That's what gets me about this whole thing. It's not even a case that someone close to her exposed her like how it usually goes with these kind of things, it's the fact that she herself proudly posted it & had the nerve to say "please be happy for us". The fact that she was busy announcing her music & continuing her music activities as if nothing happened gives the impression she truly does not understand the gravity of the situation or people's opinion towards him or if she does, she does NOT care at all. Which is BAD. It is a huge slap in the face to the women victimised in the scandal. That time she was one of my favourite idols but damn, she really disappointed us. Like really bad!!!
hyuna... when? when is she gonna learn? my god, it's frustrating to see really. but i actually wish her the best still, but oh does she make it hard...
just quickly wanna inform, not trying to defend her hagness at all; but age isn't always what grants seniority when working in companies, it's how long you've been under the company that does. so for the entertainment industry it's your training period under said company that traditionally gave someone seniority regardless of age. it was an especially enforced hierarchy during 2nd gen. idk how long THAT man was under cube for before debuting, but just note that Hyuna technically would lose seniority for entering cube as a trainee to redebut even if she debuted in WG
I can never be happy for hyuna after this, she has really done it this time. Even if she realizes her mistakes in the future and tries to do better, i will still never forgive her or be happy her.
Absolutely agree with everything here. Just one thing though: as far as i know, it was jonghyun from cnblue being weird towards jennie (@ 3:34) not junghyung. Both were involved in that scandal so your point still stands.
I see people commenting just anything and everything about this. So I wanna clarify some few things here: hyuna and hara were never friends in real life there were even times back then I think around 2012 or something were we thought they hated each other lol old kpop fans would remember this. They only filmed invincible youth together and that's it. Junhyun is not the ex that was violent to hara it was another guy i think he was not a celebrity, and he caused the poor girl to attempt sui£ide first time but she was rescued and then a month later we know what happened. Also Junhyung's involvement in burning sun case was that he was sent a video of adult stuff being done on consent but the recording was without the woman's consent and he didn't report it or anything untill the scandal revealed and be apologised about it. I'm not defending him( although I really liked him back then when he was part of Beast) nor defending hyuna but I just don't like when these type of scandals happen and people starts spreading more rumors to make things look worse.
the first two points were very valid to make the third seems a bit like you want to make it look like he is not as bad. what you described is still horrible
There was a statement released where someone who was involved in the situation or smth idk😭😭,basically they stated tht Jennie asked if she cld smoke before she did it and she even made sure with the staff she also asked if they cld open a window so tht she cld smoke out the window also the building apparently does allow u to smoke indoors . I feel like ppl keep forgetting to bring this up whenever they talk abt this situation and it annoys me cause it adds a lot of context 😭😭
hyuna is her worst enemy
Really though! It's frustrating to see this! 😔
If I say she's chosen to stay in an abusive relationship because she is addicted to chaos and can't even fathom "healing herself", I might be called "victim blamey"
If I say "hope she heals", I may sound brainwashey, as if therapy was a telepathic power that erased the flaws we dislike or even despise of other people
If I say HyunA is just a bad person, I might get accussed of not seeing her as a complex or messy human like all of us.
So.... Maybe I'm gonna give up and let her be, for she's an adult who has agency over herself, and let her carve her tomb.
I should feel sorry for Hara and Dawn, I think they're taking the brunt of her poor choices the most
dawn dodged a bullet fr
Dont forget that Hyuna isnt just dating a scum bag, but also her deceased friend's toxic ex that most likey contributed to her death.
Removing the element of the burning sun scandal, that still is bad. Adding the scandal makes it dispicable and its so insulting.
I liked her music, I still do, but i removed all songs of hers. I just sinply cannot, in good conscience, even hear her voice.
@@zoutheinaabbas1003 honestly, a couple months ago I did not understand why people were hating on her because I was oblivious to what was happening, now that I do, I feel the same way you do. 😔😟
@@norabeckwith9154 as I said, the issue isn't her dating. It's WHO she is dating. Look into the scandal and this guy's history. And you can understand why it's an issue. She is free to date who she wants, but I am free to not listen to her music If the person she wants to be with is a criminal that didn't get convicted simply cuz of circumstances and Korean society(for a lack of a better term). Hyuna has made a significant impact in Kpop since 2nd gen(when I got into Kpop), no one is denying that. But I won't deny either her dating a known scum bag. 🤷♀️
@@norabeckwith9154 you're not really good at reading are you?
@@norabeckwith9154let’s read this back one more time
I agree that he’s a scumbag, but Hyuna and Hara weren’t even friends like that 💀
Thank you! I saw the news about Jennie on Insta and some people legit commented things like 'she's a grown up leave her alone', 'okay so what', like did these people not read the word 'indoors'. If she want to vape and get cancer, that's her choice. But she shouldn't vape in front of other people, especially not her employees, and put them at risk.
hyuna the woman you were 😔😔😔
Jennie was collaborating with child predator and ex offender Edison Chen literally a few weeks ago lmao maybe people should get their priorities straight and call her out for that too😭
underrated asf comment!
@@blessedaghanwa it is not lmao instead of apologizing for 🚬 she should apologize for that 💀
@@rainbowsubs2 well I think she should apologize for both since it was selfish and disrespectful for endangering someone else's health to 2nd hand smoke for her own pleasure but i mean underrated as in this comment should be more popular and there for noticed and talked about bc if this was anyone else I promise u that they would have recieved more backlash or been called out for this kind of stuff.
the op literally made a video abt that too.... people are indeed judging and calling her out on it
@@blessedaghanwa OHHH you are right LMAO I am dyslexic and read it wrong sorry 😭😭😭😭
Essentially, by dating and marrying him, she's showing that she doesn't think his involvement was a big deal.
I've seen people get confused and misunderstand some of the details to think they are more extreme. But honestly to me, what he did is bad enough on it's own. I've seen other people try and lessen what he did. Try and make excuses. That's infuriating. If you don't think it's a big deal, you are on the same page as HyunA, and I can't understand that, but don't lie about what happened to try and make him look better.
Ridiculous.
She's made her choice. She is okay with how he reacted, what he said... She's lost a lot of fans.
She is being literally someone who is perpetrating that at this point she is guilty too idc, and honestly his bf (soon husband) bff is now in liberty and trying to make another burning sun in Europe France specifically, a girl saw him and talk to him and he wants to do another one in lyron France
I just don't get it , how does hyuna feel comfortable dating or even marrying a man who watched women get rated and abused?? Does she not feel scared of him and what he can do to others or her even??
Raped*
a lot of women are like this. a lot of s33x pr33dators are married to people who are fully aware of their behavior
it why raep culture will probably never end because some [a lot sadly] are fully ok with it not only existing but participating in it.
my other comment got deleted [for some reason]
but it said apex predators [heavy emphasis on the last word] are usually not only married but friends with people who are fully aware of the stuff they do.
she probably thinks it would never happen to her, since r*** apologists always think it's the victim's fault
3:56 “why not be a decent human being from the beginning?” Exactly.
Hyuna, girl, why😀
out of all people why him, the red flags are flying and you're literally swating them out of the way😀
I'm 16 and I can see the red flags flying and just the straight up problems this thing is creating😟
i feel so bad for dawn dude i hope he gets the best partner in the future
The thing with Hyuna for me, outside of her just dating that dude, is that she is doing it so publicly. It feels like an f u to people impacted by the scandal, her dead friend, and practically anyone who has experienced the same things.
It would still be a heinous decision, but the absolute least she could do is date that dude privately 😭 like I don't want to remember he exists, let alone that she is with him. Maybe it's just because she is a celebrity and she obviously likes having public relationships, but it feels so icky that her need to have a public relationship seems more important than the comfort and well being of vicitims. Even if somehow that dude is a completely changed person, I don't think that justifies her proudly and happily dating him. He was literally involved in one of the worst scandals and crimes in recent korean entertainment history. Why is she so comfortable reminding people of those crimes by publicly dating him? 🤢
It's giving Nicki Minaj dating that predator and proudly defending predators. I honestly would prefer Hyuna being more upfront like Nicki, instead of being in lala land about it like it never happened. Like girl, you know and we know so stop acting like nothing happened. And the dude she is dating is also in lala land about it. Instead of publicly dating Hyuna, he should be publicly donating and speaking against r@pe culture in Korea, paying back victims for how he handled the situations in the past.
Both of them are icky and misguided.
That's what gets me about this whole thing. It's not even a case that someone close to her exposed her like how it usually goes with these kind of things, it's the fact that she herself proudly posted it & had the nerve to say "please be happy for us".
The fact that she was busy announcing her music & continuing her music activities as if nothing happened gives the impression she truly does not understand the gravity of the situation or people's opinion towards him or if she does, she does NOT care at all. Which is BAD. It is a huge slap in the face to the women victimised in the scandal.
That time she was one of my favourite idols but damn, she really disappointed us. Like really bad!!!
hyuna... when? when is she gonna learn? my god, it's frustrating to see really. but i actually wish her the best still, but oh does she make it hard...
Didn't Haechan get a fine for vaping indoors and some exo members. i don't really the double standard there with jennie situation
did u mean "i dont really see the double standards"?
@@blessedaghanwa yeah
just quickly wanna inform, not trying to defend her hagness at all; but age isn't always what grants seniority when working in companies, it's how long you've been under the company that does. so for the entertainment industry it's your training period under said company that traditionally gave someone seniority regardless of age. it was an especially enforced hierarchy during 2nd gen.
idk how long THAT man was under cube for before debuting, but just note that Hyuna technically would lose seniority for entering cube as a trainee to redebut even if she debuted in WG
I can never be happy for hyuna after this, she has really done it this time. Even if she realizes her mistakes in the future and tries to do better, i will still never forgive her or be happy her.
Hyuna is so Kanye west coded, she is annoying
I just did the hugest face palm ever. she's MARRYING him??????
hyunot this... I hope he divorces her and has her see what she has become
Absolutely agree with everything here. Just one thing though: as far as i know, it was jonghyun from cnblue being weird towards jennie (@ 3:34) not junghyung. Both were involved in that scandal so your point still stands.
@@yaseminkosar1397 oops tyy
You ate everything here is facts
I see people commenting just anything and everything about this. So I wanna clarify some few things here: hyuna and hara were never friends in real life there were even times back then I think around 2012 or something were we thought they hated each other lol old kpop fans would remember this. They only filmed invincible youth together and that's it.
Junhyun is not the ex that was violent to hara it was another guy i think he was not a celebrity, and he caused the poor girl to attempt sui£ide first time but she was rescued and then a month later we know what happened.
Also Junhyung's involvement in burning sun case was that he was sent a video of adult stuff being done on consent but the recording was without the woman's consent and he didn't report it or anything untill the scandal revealed and be apologised about it.
I'm not defending him( although I really liked him back then when he was part of Beast) nor defending hyuna but I just don't like when these type of scandals happen and people starts spreading more rumors to make things look worse.
the first two points were very valid to make the third seems a bit like you want to make it look like he is not as bad. what you described is still horrible
Dont know when Hyuna will taking wrong decisions for her life.
There was a statement released where someone who was involved in the situation or smth idk😭😭,basically they stated tht Jennie asked if she cld smoke before she did it and she even made sure with the staff she also asked if they cld open a window so tht she cld smoke out the window also the building apparently does allow u to smoke indoors . I feel like ppl keep forgetting to bring this up whenever they talk abt this situation and it annoys me cause it adds a lot of context 😭😭
@@calebdavids8802 source?
@@yubincults bro that alleged "staff" who made the statement online turned out to be a blink catfishing to clear jennie's name 💀
@@cookie-hz9fx LMAO
jennie our favorite smoking ambassador 😋😍
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