Can a ceasefire bring peace to DRC?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- African leaders have declared a ceasefire in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, aimed at stopping attacks by the M23 rebel group. However, as peace talks conclude in Luanda, those suffering through the DRC conflict say their leaders have wasted their time.
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Michael Tshibangu
DRC Political Affairs Analyst
Vava Tampa
Founder of Save the Congo
Temitope Olodo
President of the Africa Security Forum
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FDLR who committed Genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda and were given safe heaven is DRC at the Boarder with Rwanda instead of being brought to Justice. Now FDLR have made a marriage with FRDC congo Army over the years and the Divorce is going to cost a lot to DRC and now they are killing Congolese Kinyarwanda speaking Tutsi due to the genocide Ideology supported by the Congolese government where Congolese Tutsi have been killed , burnt alive and eaten. The M23 should stand up for your Rights. DRC should come to talks with M23.
Thank you so much for bring the real truth about war in Congo. For sure, Rwanda must be sanctioned
Puttin has been sanctioned, has that stopped the war in Ukrain? So i think it needs to be a mixture of all these things. The DRC has many borders and i feel its time some of these borders were better monitored. e.g between DRC and Rwanda there is no physical border. Perhaps its time we built an actual border. Lets make it a high wall with a single gate entry. Perhaps we need to go back to basic border patrol.
@@itizoglodie The problem of the wars in DRC is a Leadership problem. History should be your teacher. Since the death of Patrice Lumumba, Congolese have never enjoyed real peace. It sounds funny
to say that Rwanda which is like a dot on world map, is the thorn in Congo's wellbeing. Are you not giving to much credit to Kagame? You are even comparing him to Putin? This is unbelievable. The problem of Congo is its own people, its Leaders and not its Neighbours. I employ some fine Congolese, it takes them several days to get to their homes in Rebero because of bad Roads. Sometimes Soldiers take their money. Is this also the neighbour's problem? Be serious.
Maybe we should take out Kagame Mseven ....
Cause it all comes down to the two leaders...
DR Congo is a house power but a ignorant one!
It seems the people are now awake and know their rights.
It's time to wash out all the greedy leaders..
Stop your wrong narrative. Revisit UR own history, since the death of Lumumba. The king of Belgium killed more than WW2...Kagame and NusevenI were not there. FDRL and all anti Tutsi groups in collaboration with DRC will pay back! DRC corrupt leadership are responsible for your fate
M23 is a group made of Tutsis who are part of Banyarwanda community of Congo. Hence the confusion with Rwanda. But M23 have genuine grievances against DRC government. After 1994 genocide, Tutsis killings and antitutsis ideology have been spread across DRC by FDLR and pro bantous Congolese politicians. Those people are denied basic rights as citizens. Their families have been living in camps in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, USA, UK,.... Obviously when Congolese say there is no Tutsi in Congo, nobody listen to them. When they claim that M23 is RDF nobody believes them. If the actual president continue to refuse peace talks there will be more suffering from ordinary people. Congolese who claims Rwanda helps M23 to control minerals are missing the whole point. The only solution is a strong FARDC that fight and defeat FDLR, ADF, and all other militia groups. M23 is the least violent group and the only one who try to bring peace to the local population by chasing away FDLR and Mai Mai militia.
But truth be told the Tutsi are the ones that killed Hutus , if not they would not be in power😏
@@noeu8414 Genocide denial is part of genocide dynamics. Power is equally shared in Rwanda and that is guaranteed by Rwandan constitution of 2004. Consensual democracy that governs politics in Rwanda is the reason why westerners will never understand why they devide and rule has no much effect in Rwanda. Rwanda democracy is rock solid.
@@noeu8414 Absolutely right
@@alexgwiza as anyone watched kibeho massacre ... Its proof that Tutsis killed Hutus and they played with media with the help of the west to flip the story to them being the victims and we all believed it but years later truth is slowly coming out, another massacre of Hutus happened at river kagera bridge but they flipped that story too . All the bodies that where in lake Victoria in 1994 where of hutus not tutsi like they being lying, one of their princess told the world that lying is one of their great traits, a true Tutsi never tells the true😉
@@noeu8414 That is part of hate speech. Tutsis are human beings just like anyone else. Tutsi genocide has been documented and approved by UN courts. Your allegations are baseless. The dismantlement of Kibeho refugees camps where genocide killers had taken civil population into hostage is also known. The blood of innocent Tutsis you have killed will be on your hands till death. You will not erase your evil did by projecting them to your victims. That will not happen. They are records everywhere. You may convince few on social media but the truth will remain unchanged.
The problem here Is kagame !!!!!
Afrikans have to deal with kagame properly if peace Is to be attained!!!
Nope, he is doing his country justice, congo mishandled the genocide perpetrators and now they caused chaos, the congolese rose up, cause the government couldn't keep the east safe
@@ironman5034 his country justice or just his tribe? Also how is this justice for the rest of the continent?? We want to advance, stop destabilizing the key to our success!
@@xyz835 yes the whole country, also (assuming he is) he is not destabilizing anything that's isn't already destabilized, the way to move forward is to have no borders, stop corruption and have strong institutions otherwise it will be blame games that don't solve any issues, also do you know the issues that people if east DRC face?
@@ironman5034 then he should stop adding fuel to fire… he’s doing the wests bidding and is a horrible example for what we need in Africa. Just cause he keeps a clean country while spilling African blood
@@ironman5034 you are so stupid and killer as your Terrorists brothers Tutsi Rwandans killers who make Genocide in the Congo since 1996 and kill 16 millions Congolese people
For god shake Au step in to bring peace in DRC 😢
Facts
Rwanda and Uganda can’t be trusted
DRC will be in peace if french and other European countries leave that country
Very good..but they should learn love peace and unity
You’ve lost the plot the real problem is Rwanda and Uganda
DRC SHOULD probably build a wall between Rwanda & DRC.
As a Congolese I feel the solution to this is our own government, at this point we don't trust anyone outside of Congo for a solution
As a Nigerian that have been following this situation since I agree with you.
The Congolese government should make their stance clear on supporters of rebel groups in your country.
They should also rapidly build up the military to be able to back up their claims if Rwanda wants to play dirty then congo should teach Rwanda who is in charge 😤
Because I don’t understand how tiny Rwanda would be destabilizing giant congo 🤷🏾♂️
Remember the late Laurent Kabila was ushered in by d same Rwandese, who later after disagreement with him almost deposed him. Rwanda and Uganda are big bullies in the region and have the backing of Western powers
@@sharwama992it’s not a tiny Rwanda distaberlizing Congo it rather the USA, France and uk backing Rwanda/ Kagame to cause all this animosity. The plan was to divide Congo into different state by weakening our military if the plan was successful then the Tutsi would come in and have control or dominion over the two kivu provinces. But Kagame he miscalculated because he thought we Congolese are not that United and his plan was going to move smoothly.
@@sharwama992 True for example now the government of Congo giving guns and more weapon to many rebels to fight one group so what is the different from government and rebel groups to citizens. i don't see the different between government and rebels actually, i have live videos in the place in Congo that has no rebels but government soldier rooting the houses of the citizens
M23 = RDF
M23 = RDF = UPDF
DRC army should plan internally to aim at eliminating the rebel funders. And this will be a permanent solution.
Just think about it! If they can't defeat FDLR, ADF, Red-Tabara, which are the biggest rebel groups in East, how will they beat Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda at the same time? Those groups come from those 3 countries. Secure your country first. M23 will eventually stop since FDLR will no longer be harassing their families. Why is so difficult to comprehend?
Assassination of funders leaving in foreign countries should be also considered
@@alexgwizathis is not about FDLR harassing their families rather this is about Tutsi who are trying to create a dominion in the Great Lake region, Kagame and his militia have long planned to divide the Congo into different state that way the Tutsi can come in and claim the kivu provinces but that is not going as he planned
@@proudlyafrican6043 Congolese of Rwandan ethnic origin have their own land in Congo. If they are well treated they would have no need to break away from DRC. But if you continue to deny that there are no Congolese Tutsis, then I think you are fueling wars. M23 is located in North Kivu. In Ituri, Béni there is no M23 and Rwanda has no influence whatsoever there, how do you explain violence in that locality then? You see it's a very bad habit to reject the blame on other people. Congolese must own your problems. And that is what M23 is doing. Find a Congolese solution to Congolese problems. Let me ask you, is Willy Ngoma a Tutsi ? Is Bisiima a Tutsi? Not all M23 are of Rwandan ethnic origin. That is the lie Congolese government is spreading all over so that it hides it's weakness and corruption. If Rwanda is really supporting M23 is it normal that Congolais government go crying tears in front of Western powers that Rwanda is a bad guy? How can a small poor country be the root cause of your troubles for decades? Common! Own your problems please. North and south Kivu where you find people of Rwandan origin are a small part of the DRC, obviously you have more ressources in other provinces that can help you tacle any threat. You have the potential but you can't use it because you are thieves. That is it. Not All of you are corrupt but a huge bunch of you are.
@@alexgwiza How can refugees have Land in congo?
The solution would be for the international community to pay close attention to what the British and American are committing by funding money and guns to Kagame for m23 support
Thank brother or sister
When you say international community it means UK and US they can not investigate themselves
Congo is Corrupt (VERY), and FDLR (GENOCIDERS) have lived freely in Congo (The Killers of 800,000 people in 1994.).
- Explain why Tutsi Congolese (Banyamulenge) are targeted and killed every day, told to leave and go to Rwanda
- Then you invite accusers to your studio who are clearly Congolese but do not invite any Ugandan or Rwandan representative for people to hear their part of the story. THAT IS VERY BIASED OF YOU "THE NEWSMAKERS." (what agenda are you pushing?)
- Lastly, we have all heard that there is evidence that Rwanda supports M23. Please what is the "evidence" you keep saying is the evidence?
@@TheInsider007 my friend dont let me be mad at you yeah go back to History and than come again. You think this time we gona let them fool us again no no no. My friend you talk nonsens
The Congo regime receives far more money from both England and the USA every year!
Just get rid of Kagame and you have dealt with M23
total wrong M23 was defitead in 2013 by military means initiated by UN forces but the root cause of existing were not taken in consideration,10years they come back think twice.
@@nmunyamanu4227 bcoz the head of the snake is alive and still holds its beliefs
True
You sound like you hate your life
Congo must be accountable to it's citizens and respect their rights.
In DRC if you are a President and you are against Rwanda.
The population of DRC will support you.
However the challenge of DRC and then Zaire under Mobutu relied on Foreign forces to help them.
Even Laurent Kabila was assisted by Uganda and Rwanda to remove Mobutu then turned against them and brought in Angola and Zimbabwe.
Ignoring the Tutsis in DRC and security concern of Rwanda security will not solve problems in the region.
DRC is 90 times bigger than Rwanda yet it needs Foreigners fight for them.
Soon Kivu will be like Golan heights which was belonging to Syria now it has been under Israeli since 1967 to date.
Congo problem is more complex than one would imagine
It did not start with Kagame.
You don't have any point
Well Said!
Killer Tutsi. How many Congolese have you killed . You stupid Genocidaire
The lack of knowledge, understanding and Wisdom is a big problem for many governments today in Africa and around the world...
What knowledge do you have?
This is so sad that African cannot united to stop this innocent people dying for the benefit of others God is watching
Take Kagame and M7 to international.cpurts of justice. AMERICA AND BRITAIN STOP TRAINONG UGANDA AND RWANDA ARMY WHO ARE ATTACKING CONGO.
The Congo regime receives far more money from both England and the USA every year!
True
Thank you Vava a and Michael for your informative interventions.
You've been more than clear and direct.
The problem is Kagame and Museven
BENTON PRD YA MBOKA FATCHI
Uganda need help Congo to stop genocides for 2mai ebola killing people with in the house every we're in congo.
We don't needs genocides in how congo and everywhere in Africa s
Congos war can't b solved by the west but Africans. The problem is west they hv their own interst
Rwanda need help Congo we have to much more genocides Hutu in congo do massacred in congo the same like 1994
Dont go and here trying to explain this teouble. It is just The groupe of Tusis onpower in Rwanda willing to keep exploiting mineral in DRC. That all. They are helped by some US Democrates.
The Congo regime receives far more money from both England and the USA every year!
No one looks good can go super market hohoho you're tutsi mashette. Internationals community do you know machete what the meaning.
Well first solve the crazy corruption and xenophobia/tribalism in congo first
There is no tribalism amongst the 450 tribes of Congo or any foreigners outside of those tribes who likes to come and visit/ live in our heavenly country. We just don’t like Blood thirsty killers, is that hard to understand?
@@Bantuisrael “In March *1993,* Governor Jean-Pierre Kalumbo (of Nande origin) called on the FAZ [Congo’s regular army] to help the Ngilima and the Nyanga and Hunde militias to *“exterminate the Banyarwanda”.*
On 20 March *1993,* armed units from the Hunde and Nyanga Mayi-Mayi reportedly *killed dozens* of Hutu-Banyarwanda peasants at the market in Ntoto, a village located at the border between the Walikale and Masisi territories. The Mayi-Mayi attacked the Hutus with rifles, knives, arrows and spears.
On 21 March *1993,* the same Mayi-Mayi group allegedly *killed dozens* of Banyarwanda at Buoye, a neighbouring village of Ntoto. The attack took place as the victims were leaving the village’s Catholic and Protestant churches. In their attempt to escape their attackers, *many* Hutu Banyarwanda drowned in the Lowa River.”
@@Bantuisrael true brother
@@mitchmazamez1989 nonsense
Which tribalism are you talking of, in Congo there are more than 400 ethnicity we all live in harmony despite our differences we may not agree with each base on some traditional but we never cross a point where we feel the need of massacring each other like Rwandese who only have only 3 ethnicity and speak one common language but still kill each other
FDLR is not a threat and can not be to President Kagame. What is at stake is the campaign for Annexation of Congolese territory under the auspices of Tutsi uprising. This is why Pres. Kagame fully supports the move. It will expand his territory of influence. Rwanda seems not to be enough territory for our ruthless and totalitarian leader. God forbid.
Who are you to say what is a threat to Rwanda and what’s not
Your govt is very deeply corrupt and lead unequal society which favors some ethnic groups and not others. your leaders are very incompetent.
Sure, it could be corrupt and the more reason why we should fight for sustainable policies that allow fair inclusion of all people in governance. Minority Governments are not sustainable, believe me my friend. Are you forgetting the Apartheids of RSA. Was it sustainable? So, we want to see a Rwanda with strong Democratic institutions with the capacity to prevent any disastrous rise of unwarranted influence. This should be your homework and mine too. Time for strong people is long gone.
@@chapwetumelo9601 my friend, we have an inclusive government and you are absolutely right about RSA, but here in Rwanda everyone takes part in the rule of law, none is walking streets or living their life as one type or another. Everyone is one under the flag of unity which we have planted long time ago when we chose peace over revenge.
@@xyz835 you are sick and untreatable. we don't entertain the idea of Hutus or Tutsis here. We are one people under one language (not like in DRC where you have many tribes with different cultures and languages), one culture and one God. Hutus or Tutsis is not a tribe, Rwandans don't have ethnic groups. All people hold equal power in the service of the country. but since you are a corrupt rat, I don't exoect you to understand that.
Excellence, Presidents of the East African countries (All),
Dear Your Excellency,
On behalf of all our oppressed brothers and sisters who are prevented from expressing their true opinions, we are writing to you personally and to the East African states in general, to reiterate our position regarding the boiling conflict between President Paul Kagame and the Democratic Republic of Congo. We wish his Excellency to understand that we the people of Rwanda are peaceful people who seek to coexist with our valuable neighbours and partners in the East African region. We have many things in common and a lot to be grateful for your country and your peoples. Among the things we very much appreciate about you is the fact that you sheltered our people during the times of Rwanda’s dark history. To be specific, we do not devalue your country’s part in hosting, sheltering, and feeding hundreds of thousands of Rwandans who fled to you in 1959 and from 1994 to the present day.
We wish to categorically disassociate Rwanda and its peoples from Mr Kagame’s policy of conflict with neighbouring states. We wish to let our neighbours know that Kagame’ war is not Rwanda’s war, and certainly not our war. Mr Paul Kagame may use Rwanda as his platform to provoke a conflict with neighbours and even deploy our enslaved young men and women to die for him, but the message from us Rwandans which we wish to send to all our neighbours and be heard clearly in all East Africa is that Rwanda without Paul Kagame would seek peace with all its neighbours and would cooperate with you as a regional partner not as an aggressor.
Therefore, much as Mr Paul Kagame has aroused your anger, you can avoid falling into his trap by ensuring that no Rwandan pays for his crimes. You have many ways to get Mr Paul Kagame since he cannot indefinitely absent himself from his regional and state duties, nor can he avoid using your skies when traveling abroad. Whatever steps you decide to take, we urge you to ensure that the people of Rwanda currently resident in your country, and those who have fled from Rwanda seeking your protection, should be spared retribution.
We write this letter in acknowledgment that your resolve has been tested beyond comprehension and in conviction that your anger is justified. However, we would like you also to know that whilst Mr Kagame may prepare or call for war along with associated regions, and those who seek to be like him are urging preparation for war against Rwanda, we the people are preparing for a peaceful transition that would enable us save Rwanda from conflicts that could destroy lives and the gains of our country. We hope that despite silenced voices, this letter clearly expresses our intention towards you and that as non-aggressors may be assured that the people of Rwanda have no hostile feelings towards you. We urge you to ensure that our people are not harmed…and that you prioritise peaceful outcomes.
We thank you in advance for not waging war against us because of one deranged individual or individuals.
Yours respectfully,
Richard R. Kayumba
The interviewer is getting so uncomfortable whenever America and Britain are being mentioned... Young lady, DRC is suffering as the result of external force being strongly supported by the international community just because of their Minerals...
We keep asking same people cause problem solve it what so call independents
Evasiveness and disregard of root causes of the conflict would not solve any problem. It will rather escalate and engulf the entire country.
Do you also consider that there are more groups fighting in Congo?
Congo is much bigger than than Rwanda and Uganda, what are doing to manage their affairs instead of blame game?
M23 are people republic democratic of congo not rwandan , the political solution between M23 and congo can be better.
We don't see Rwanda in DRC
Kazi jema m23 courage mingi Sana okiwa Congo yetu tushinde bushafu ya wa Mai Mai 2mai ebola
If a doctor do wrong analysis propos wrong drag,that what is happening in DRC I'm a native of this Unstable Region.for every analyst start with M23 and Rwanda of Kagame but for us, this instability bigin back in 1990 and 1980's even before, to handle this the Congolese leaders need to read the history and correct mistakes,I'm a real victim in 1993 our village were burned the killings happened in Masisi between communities Kinyarwanda speaking where hanted and forced to be Refigees in neighboring countries like Rwanda,Uganda,Burundi,Kenya as well as inside the country in desplassed camps.
You guys are killers in the Congo and wanna be victim cards again. Nonsense
You are looking this problem in a narrow way, the problem is in the hands of the Super powers not Rwanda and Uganda.The 2 countries you mention to cause the conflict is not a reality they have Refugees comps of about 100 thousands Refugees but DRC doesn't want to solve this problem
I don't think US & UK are supporting Kagame to destabilize DRC.....I feel it's petty.
They do
We want the international community to condemn Kagame and bring him to international court for 12 million Congolese people killed, For all of us in Congo and outside, we don't understand why the USA and European don't want to take care of the problem. They are the one who are supporting Rwanda. Everyone knows that.
Accept your brother's and sisters simple..
I support that but since he is their hunting dog, they can't
USA and Europe give far more foreign aid to the congo every year. Everyone knows it.
Tell your government too stop impressing Tutsi and the rebel Ian won’t be needed
Without SADC getting involved , It's a waste of time and resources from Kenya.
Not DRC vs M23 but DRC vs Rwanda and the West.
The Congo regime receives far more money from the West every year!
@@mitchmazamez1989 shut up. You guys kill more than 16 million Congolese people
@@jospinfingy8495 You shut up!
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The problems in Congo is 2mai ebola from y,Uganda etc les Mai Mai from bukavu
If Kagame is behind M23 and Uganda behind one other groups Who is behind 128 other groups of rebels???
FDRL is the only groups rebels that need to go back to their country Rwanda to be judged for the genocide of Tutsi in 1994 which they continue to commit in DRC killing tutsi Congolese…
Do you have evidence to show America and British supporting Rwanda?
Why British supporting Rwanda to commit crime in DRC??
The only thing we as Congolese we need is to finish this war with out this regional help and monusco we will finish it and we must go to war in rwanda regardless Uganda can join we will win this war and it will the only thing we stop all tutis to come to our country
M23 IS NOT GROUP COUNTRY STOP TALKING NONSENCE PLEASE
M23 is Rwandan Army
this is highly propaganda and foolish, how do you invite people who are only one sided ????
Why does this Congolese think a military solution won't work because it has been tried before? It's not enough to merely defeat a rebel group. Constant work has to be done maintain security and address the issues that cause the problem in the first place which the Congolese military failed to do.
Nice analytical point.
The Rights of Congolese Tutsi have to be respected in all sectors of life in DRC.
@@anonymousnameless1835 there's no Congolese Tutsi unfortunately
@@jospinfingy8495 There still are since you haven't managed to kill them all.
This simple paul kagame must be punished since m23 originated from Rwanda I think kagame is fueling the fight. Kagame is round, going received refugees from other countries, and can not bring his own people at the boarder with drc.
So many years later and it's still about the bickering between clans and wounds that just won't heal. Yes, plenty died and its sad, that's war and why it's generally a shameful failure of political policy. Look at every nation on earth that's ever went to war especially western nations that seem to revel in it. 100 million people lost their lives in WW2, yet when WW2 ended everyone went back to their countries and focused on rapid development. 20 years and 6 million deaths since the Congo wars begun and the only thing that's changed are the bank accounts of their politicians. It's clear that the private companies on this land are paying for the resources yet there's this idea that westerners are "stealing". Private companies conduct themselves in the same predatory way worldwide, as long as the products/equipment and personnel are protected, they don't care what political turmoil exists in your country, sadly this is called capitalism. I just don't see how there can be peace when the rebels in this country tend to fight so that they may take power for themselves and repeat the cycle, just exactly what is the end goal here? these ores will eventually be gone and if there's no real economy when that happens i can't even imagine what the result would be in the short term.
this guy's are Congolese not Ruwanda s it's better to talk The truth why blaming Ruwanda for what they all problem is congo government president kagame us nothing to do with this
Kagame is a Tutsi who needs Tutsi numbers from M23?
this isure is between m23 and gorvement of congo both are Congolese and the all problem is congo government not Ruwanda or any other countries s so sot your problem's stop blaming anyone else they all problem injustices welch the government of congo is doing to wanyamulenge so m23 there are fitting for the right of there people why a you guys blameing president Paul kagame for no reason at all why do you talk the truth and tell the world were is the promblem you know very well it's the gorvement of congo
Isn't crazy that they have called only Congolese to the panel and not other parties that the story is about like Rwanda and Uganda?
Why they should call Uganda and Rwanda? Rwanda was there
But there Congolese too why do they lie that they’re not Congolese. Most of them worked together stop saying but you go there and prove the truth
Let's get some 🇰🇪 boots on the ground and make the message clearer
😂😂😂you are useless
East Congo belongs to Tutsi
yeah if you jail kagame & museveni for life
Kagame is being manipulated by the west period
This was such a one sided talk. The things m23 are asking for are their rights. Their families have languished in refugee camps for 25 years. They need to be allowed back home
@@michaelngoga9193 first M23 are not Congolese and they will never be ,secondly we already know who supports them for your information we have already destroyed all their bases so now we are looking for who is supporting them to finish with them completely.
@@mwenebatuayamba4899 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@acrobmusic laugh now coz u gonna cry later. By the way I forgot that yall Tutsi cry only when your cow dies not when a family member’s dies
@@mwenebatuayamba4899 bro you are sick and need prayers. enjoy life this is not 90s
Uganda is being accused of sporting m23 cz it accepted m23 as refugees for the of peace , it's very absurd so some analysts need to do more research
How can it host killers if it has no interests?
@@bjameskalema au shangale. Those guys need to be accountable
M7 himself and m23 are blood brothers so you cant say Uganda is out of this
Congolese have hatred against Tutsi, please hear all side
REALLY ! 12 MILLIONS OF DEAD in the Republic Democratic of Congo and you have the AUDACITY TO SAY Congolese have hatred against Tutsi! The Congolese story WAS MUFFLE BY THE media! Congolese GENOCIDE IS UNDER A ROCK IN THE UNITED NATION BECAUSE THE USA IS INVOLVED and other powerful countries. Ask the Tutsi in Belgium and Rwanda to tell you about the relation BEFORE PAUL KAGAME ARRIVAL.
How?? The war came to Congo when there was no hatred and no such thing as tutsi bantu. people were happily enjoying living together as sisters and brothers and shared same houses. I remember my late grandpa who was Tutsi king; used to love tutsi more than people of his own ethnic group. In Minembwe my grandpa advisors and treasures were all tutsi. However; the same people start this conflict from nowhere?? What the motivation behind it; you tell me; coz don’t really know??
@@bikyeombebyatungayves5308 my dear the war came because of bad governance, I used to do vacations in bafuleros home, I considered them as my family too, but things changed because of bad and poor governance. Even now banyamulenge were killed since 2017 until now, all their villages were abandoned, bafuleros and babembe also fled after the war became serious, the government kept quite, you know why?? Only the population was suffering, there was no threat to the government, now M23 is a threat to the government not to the population, they feel concerned.
@@regaloregal8754 I think bad government can fought through protests and not war?? we’ve seen people winning in Sudan and Egypt with no war investment. The solution for bad government isn’t forming armed groups; rebellions that make the lives millions of the innocent people in jeopardy; and living a legacy of animosity amongst future generations after you’re no longer into existence. shame shame and very poor mindset for the people advocating for a such rebellion
Tutsis have hatred against each other. Before their mass exile into congo after genocide in their motherland rwanda, congo was very peaceful. Tutsis imported their inter-rwandese war (M23, FDLR, Interhamue,.... etc .....) into congo
Also I think America 🇺🇸 should also be sanctioned for also supporting M23 period 🙏
All we get from this relationship between DRC and it's neighbours are western sounding sentiments. What does the M23 says, What is Rwanda's perspective?
If the M23 are Congolese then DRC has a massive domestic problem on its hands, If they are Rwanda/Uganda, then they are wrong!!
The nonchalance with which the president of DRC gifts out resources is a point of concern, with the people so poor.
Now, if the AU was worth it's salt....
If the U.N. was worth a crap...
This is kinda what they were created for?
Hopefully the A.U. can ameliorate the region's suffering?🗽
Anything but self-accountability, SMH,
this is horrible research. have some pride in your work
No need for blood shed , m23 should be on the table
We see Congoles by Congoles
My players is to see pence
Plo lumumba
Those are the people meki African back please we ask all Pan African leaders to come together and soulful kofilect thanks
there is always two sides to a story and in this case a third side for The newsmakers....no wonder you call yourselves newsmakers....
Moise Katumbi is sponsored by Kagame just for you to know
They waiting there time and keep making stupid deals.
Free Congo!
General Laura kunda ,was a Tutsi vice president in congo what a shame
Y’all need to let them finish their thought and what they are saying
Thank you Vava and Michael for clearing the violence causes in the eastern DRC mostly fueling by the USA, France and the Britain. The only way to end that war is to stop supporting Kagame and Museveni, to punishing them for the crimes they've done in Congo
Besides displaying my comments, what can I do to contribute to these discussions live on the TV?. I have a lot to share with the public concerned and I will be happy if I am contacted.
Executive outcomes would have gone in there in less than a month sorted out this issue
M23 must get away from congoy
Africans growup please.
Africa is a continent, this is about Congo.
Congo Congo is rich bla blaaaaa!… very poor analysis!… your guest didn’t get to the point of how did the M23 and the people they are defending, came to be in what we now know as Congo? Respect the right of the people that M23 defends. Then there will be peace.
M23 and the all Tutsi clan do not have any right in the Congo
But you guys are wishfully thinking, why not solve the real issues in east DRC, you can complain to the world but if you don't solve the issues there no peace will be there
This conflict is at the end. Do you know that you killed more than 16 millions Congolese people
This panel is one sided you should have included the Ugandans and rwandese to have their side of the story
Says s Rwandies coz his country has peace
What Congolese is doing to Tutsi tribe in Congo it’s a hate crime, genocide
From what we see on news and tv, looks like the Tutsi are winning… if anything, we only see them slaughtering other Congolese people. No footage of mass Tutsi killings but plenty the other way round
😂😂😂 these Tutsi devils always playing victims yet the are the villains even in Rwanda genocide.. coz then they wouldn't be in power.. we know that coz we done research
NO
Congolese people always blame Rwanda, Uganda, US, UK, the UN and ALIENS for their country's instability; but they never question or challenge their corrupt leadership for their failure to build strong institutions and guarantee safety for all ethnic groups including minorities that usually rely on militia to protect their communities.
Congo should address the root causes of these political problems through dialogue (tribal politics, weak and corrupt institutions, the legacy of arbritary colonial borders, impunity and lack of justice, regional integration); there will always be groups that will feel marginalized and seek external support from USA, China, Rwanda, Uganda or Angola to challenge their own government.
Are made we have no Hutu and Tutsi in Congo, stay Ethiopia ,stay in Rwanda, stay Uganda, stay in Kenya, and Burundi you will never succeed to be in Drc fucken Tutsi
truer words will never be said. Their leaders are always saying "not 1cm of our territory to invaders!" but when cameras are off, they sell their people to anybody buying. It has happened since the time of Portuguese slave traders, arab slave traders, the belgian occupation, Mobutu, Kabilas, and now tshisekedi's boy.
You are Tutsi and your time is expired in the Congo. Cause domination Tutsi Rwandan is finished
I support M23
M23 has demands , they should be met by the Congolese government should meet them.
_EXCLUSIVE: Inside the Congolese army’s campaign of rape and looting in South Kivu_
*Victims and witnesses provide IRIN with dozens of horrifying first-hand accounts of violent sexual assault*
The abuses documented by IRIN began in late September 2017 after *government soldiers reoccupied areas* briefly captured by a new alliance of local Mai-Mai militias called the National People’s Coalition for the Sovereignty of the Congo (CNPSC).
The CNPSC is one of three *Mai-Mai* coalitions that have recently emerged in eastern Congo, an area mired in conflict since the mid-1990s, when the perpetrators of the Rwandan genocide fled there, triggering two regional wars.
In September, the CNPSC launched a fresh offensive in the Fizi region, capturing a string of strategic villages before attempting *an audacious naval assault on Uvira, the second largest town* in South Kivu.
The group was eventually driven back *_by MONUSCO, the UN’s peacekeeping mission,_* which deployed attack helicopters to protect the town.
The Congolese army moves in:
As the Mai-Mai coalition withdrew from nearby villages, Congolese soldiers began *systematically raping* women and arbitrarily arresting young men, according to dozens of interviews IRIN conducted over several weeks with victims and witnesses.
In Makobola, 15 kilometres south of Uvira, the representative of a local peace organisation said at least 25 women were gang raped by Congolese soldiers *over the course of one day* in late September, after the army retook the town.
The still-bruised 36-year-old woman said she was gang raped by soldiers *_alongside her 65-year-old blind mother_* at 10 in the morning. The attack was so brutal she said her mother was *subsequently paralysed* from the waist down and died shortly afterwards.
“She couldn’t move; she couldn’t even go to the toilet,” the woman said.
Nearby, a 35-year-old mother-of-four said she was stopped by soldiers outside her home at 10am while taking her two-year-old son to the toilet. The soldiers asked where her husband was. When she replied that he was travelling, they accused her of collaborating with the rebels.
“They told me, ‘You are telling us this because your husband is Mai-Mai and you have sent him to the bush’,” she said.
*The soldiers stole her phone and money* hidden in her underwear before entering her house. “They said, ‘Today *we will rape you until you regret being alive’,”* she recalled.
Five men then *raped her in front of her children* until she fell unconscious.
“I woke up to the sound of my *children shouting Mama, Mama!,”* she said.
In a restaurant on the main road through Makobola, five women tried to hide but were caught and *raped by 15 soldiers,* according to the peace organisation representative.
One of the women, passing through the town to visit a hospital further south in Baraka, subsequently died. Another was hospitalised after being penetrated *with a wooden object.*
The owner of the restaurant told IRIN the five women were eventually freed *after she paid soldiers* the equivalent of around $100.
“After what happened, I felt very bad,” she said.
At another restaurant, an owner said she was raped at night on 11 October, after soldiers accused her of providing a place for Mai-Mai *to sleep.* Two more women inside her restaurant were also raped, with soldiers shooting into the air *to stop them screaming.* The soldiers then stole $130, *leaving the owner broke.*
“I have *nothing to restart my business,”* she said.
Further south in Sebele, another village in the Fizi region, three men were killed by Congolese soldiers and eight women raped *after the army regained control,* according to village deputy chief Elias Feruzi.
m23 continue to fight for your rights until you attain it
It is possible that Uhuru Kenyata is not a mediator but a corrupted man for DRC to destroy M23 and protect FDLR (genociders).
protect FDLR ?? when was a fdlr formed?? how many generations have they been into existence?? maybe an Fdlr who was 17 years back then, now is 50+ plus years?? New generation don’t need war; they are hugely advertising for united borderless Africa. Now; look all the national team of Rwanda is formed by Congolese guys; and plus most of of the tailors in Kigali are Congolese. However; these people crossed each other borders every day. Remember in 1996 all zaire flew congo to neighboring countries; ten years ago M23 flew to neighboring countries; why isn’t Congo made similar excuses for attacking a neighboring country?? have a peaceful mindset and a diversity mindset will move our Africa forward. don’t let imaginary false claim foul you out.
This is quite primitive and stupid to think like that. DRC is the government while M23 are rebels... Do you think you are better off without mediators ? If so why can't you sit down and talk instead of fighting while killing and displacing innocent civilians.. one side must rule the country at a time.
As Kenyans we quite pity the displaced innocent civilians some die of hunger and disease, no education,no even basic commodities,shelter , food clothing. This war must end even if it means wiping out M23....must M23 rule the country. Let them be like any other citizens let them stop their greed for power.
@@anthonyngocihkisilu2973 talk to who?? the same people keep changing name after a peace deal is made?? maybe the question should be, why can’t they wait for the election and present a convincing cause to win the election? like a highway that connects the Congo?? Why can’t they voice up their rights through peaceful demonstrations?? Don’t be blind minded; all Congolese are tired of the war; that why you’re seeing influx of people marching everywhere in Congo; as people always win ; so M23 should immediately stop their war because they can’t win against the people
Time Will Tell.
If you people dont know Congo pls stop talking
They forget what the cause of this war was. The roof caused by was Tutsi Congolese majority has been marginally for a decade I am blaming Belgium during colloidal who cut party of Rwanda's land into DRC. everywhere, in Africa, these existed those problems.
Thatz exactly what Russian claimed about Ukrain. The truth always prevails. DRC will win in the end.
Exactly, why not bring a Congolese Tutsi perspective on the show. All I have seen is one an anti-Rwanda one sided debate. No one seems to care looking at the root cause of the fighting
@@manchris2020 Exactly. It doesn't make sense
@@manchris2020 How does tutsi has to come in when there was no tribes issues before the 1996?? And why only one ethnic group have to come into this?? congo has more than six ethnicities that make up 200 plus tribes. Plus there is a democratic government and everything should be fought in democratic ways . Today we celebrate Martin Luther King Junior; did he formed a rebel groups well armed with heavy guns to fight against its own government?? plus the regions into war are predominantly occupied by the tutsi people who don’t want the war but peace. The same ethnic group even in the upcoming election; they will have someone running for presidential seat; why can’t they win trough a cause?? present the cause that interest the majority and win the election in a proper manner and not killing innocent humans like yourself by creating unnecessary and endless conflict among ethics groups.
😂😂😂😂 Rwandese people you are lie yourself because no party of you poor country in congo shame on you
Viva M23!
Viva The Republic of Kivu!
Congo a country where men knows how to dance, sing, and wear expensive shoes.
100 million people, no government, corrupt FARDC, corrupt and obese politicians!
Congolese continue to dance Ndombolo!
M23, Songa mbele!
It's stupid for Congolese even to blame it Uganda is the problem. Congolese need to take responsibility for there country instead blaming Uganda. Museveni don't support terro
Uganda was found guilty in an international court and they are paying millions to DRC this very minute.
I think the ultimate solution would be for the Congolese government to allow the Rwanda government to get in congo and fought against the FDLR for a period of two years.
Shut upp
Shut up
How many FDLR are in DRC?
@@balukuroben7458 there shouldn't be even one.
Do you know how many time Kagame invaded Congo in the name of pursuing the FDLR? Hasn’t he finished them yet. Kagame uses the FDLR as an excuse to cover up his crime which he committed during genocide and which he continues to commit in Congo. Don’t fall for that FDLR story my brother
why don't you invite M23 on the table ?
They will eventually the gouvernement is playin monkey business for now
This people called Tutsi they are problem in Africa 🌍 continent we have to get them out of Africa 🌍 if you want Africa to be with peace ✌️ Nigeria 🇳🇬 Bokoharam is Tutsi ,Central African, Tutsi, Mozambique 🇲🇿, Tutsi ,South Sudan 🇸🇩 Tutsi 🇰🇪 Tutsi Uganda 🇺🇬 Tutsi ,Angola Tutsi, 🇨🇩 🇨🇬 Tutsi,Africa will be Tutsi land
stop your biasness against tutsi coz people like you its why congo goes to war
Igwe, stop advertising your ignorance!
This is the Mentality M23 is fighting.
These Tyutsy should be re kilt again like the hutsus did.
Well said