The Valor is a great twist to the Vengeance. The paint job alone really makes her less threatening, more like Starfleet. I think it makes the lines look so much better.
@@raideurng2508 a bunch of Galaxy X would have wiped the floor with the entire enemy fleet and make the Enterprise F look like the inferior ship it is.
This was a hilarious one to watch. When you seemed confident then thirty seconds later your ship got blowed up lmao. I am happy that the Enterprise-D kicked the Valor's ass. The Valor is a nice ship definitely better looking then the Vengeance. I think had they had the Vengeance that color it would have looked more pleasing to the eye.
I always wondered (at the end of Into Darkness), why didn't Starfleet reverse engineer that technology. I'm glad that someone else thought of that. A couple decades... holy crap! Khan really was engineered to be better. At what? (I whispered this under my breath in the theater) Everything! 😄 I swear, I thought people would shush me because they thought I might have seen it. 😀 That's right, I forgot that it took the F to stop the Vengeance. This time the D was enough... though that was a close one. 😀
Badger speaking to The Enterprises ( Some of you may die - Stares Menacingly at The NX-01 - but it's a sacrifice i am willing to make ) lolol. How about. KELVIN VOYAGER VS THE DOMINION ENHANCED ODESSY ( Star Trek vs Stargate ). Respect and keep up the epic work.
You didn't censor your words, you cesnored them! :) I still hope that poor Cpt. Archer and the NX-01 will have their revenge one day for always being completely obliterated in every 'All Enterprises vs.' video 😂
Now I have to find out where that footage of Scott Bakula came from. 😀 I found it ... it was from an episode of Always Sunny in Philadelphia. 😆 I loved the cast, but I could never get into that series.
Just to note you were actually making progress against the Vengeance with the D in your last video but you kept turning your weakest shield to them and lost. Maybe if you redid the battle and kept turning your stronger shields to them you could have won.
Bros been doing it for yrs he isn't going to learn, when there's multiple enemies he also targets ships in the most awkward positions, like 90 degrees to the left, right, up or down, when there's already ships lined up directly in front or behind that he could fire torpedoes and phasers at.
The USS Valor is far more realistic. The Klingons had the Narada for decades to study, while the Kelvin had merely scans under battle duress. Post-Kelvin starfleet ships are oddly advanced. Moreover, "Section 31" Vengeance wouldn't have been able to leap over a hundred years in technology. Creators need to stop making ships OP sometimes. A really fun battle to watch.
A interesting story that could be easilly canon in star trek online. We already had in the temporal operative trailer the vengueance going trough a temporal rift. The only part i cant find understandable is the 2 decade timing.... 20 years doesnt make sense.
I have no reason to believe that the Galaxy, in this form, would've even appeared in the Kelvin timeline; she'd have been a lot stronger, all things considered. The Kelvin universe is rather overpowered in truth, slapping lots of guns on a ship doesn't make it technically superior and it'd probably result in power-constrained scenarios, though I imagine fights would be over quicker.
For a future video I'd be interested to see the stand off fight from TNG "the defector" we never got to see actually play out. So a younger Enterprise D and 3 large size Klingon birds of prey vs 2 Romulan D'deridex warbirds.
For her size the Vengeance along with the Valor are woefully underarmed. The saucer section doesn't seem to have any phaser emplacements and the only dorsal phaser banks are on the nacelles. For it's size and mission, the Vengeance at least should have phaser banks on the saucer section dorsal and ventral. I mean there isn't a need for spaces dedicated to science or research so the Vengeance should be crew births, med bays, transporters, mess hall, storage for crew needs, reactors and weapons. The saucer section should be brimming with dual phaser banks and shield generators. I mean for it's purpose, the Vengeance should be a fleet killer, able to warp in the midst of a enemy fleet and just start multi targeting the enemies blitzkrieging them into destruction. Also one weapons system that both the Vengeance and the Valor lacks is the torpedo drone. It's a drone weapons platform that kamikazes towards an enemy ship firing its torpedo compliment before crashing and self destructing to inflict more damage. However i guess it makes sense that the Starfleet version of the Vengeance is weaker than the Section 31 version considering their desire to no create absolute menaces of warships.
Even with newer designs they are still limited by 23rd Century tech. Power generation and miniaturization are hallmarks of advancement. The same ship built in the 2360s would be 50% smaller with 50% more power.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 I agree, however when you compare the Kelvin timeline ship sizes to the Prime universe ship sizes and you find that the Kelvin Enterprise is larger than a Galaxy class, about twice as large. The Vengeance is twice the size of the Kelvin Enterprise. Around 2 km in length. In Prime universe comparison the Vengeance is about twice the size of the Odyssey class we see in Picard and that ship is massive at a length of 1,061.1 meters, a width of 371.88 meters, and a height of 147.92 meters. Even if limited by 23rd century tech the size of the ships allow for them to house far larger power plants to generate the power it needs. Remember that the Prime universe Constitution class was small at 288m in length.
You're being obliterated partly because your ships can only fire one phaser at a time! I never liked how the ships could only fire one phaser at a time and the Valor can fire all that! It wasn't impossible for them in the shows, so i reversed that in my install of BC Remastered!
The Vengeance he never put it against the Enterprise D galaxy X. If he did I bet he wouldn't have needed to have wasted all that time with the other inferior Enterprises to beat it but he skipped it even though he used the non-canon NX.
The kelvin universe is so dumb, crisis or not how did they manage to close (in some ways surpass) a 100 year tech gap in the time it took Kirk to go from pram to starfleet academy?
The JJverse, scaling size, power, weapons, speed, are worse than star wars. Star Trek has always "especially TMP onwards to ent" has a sense of scale. The hero ships played it a little fast and loose, but that scale was still there. Nutrek lost that feel just like Jjverse... Which is why they fail.
Would you be able to put different species against different federation ships rather than different federationships against different federation ships I wouldn't mind seeing some Delta quadrant or beta quadrant or gamma quadrant species against these certain types of federation ships that Voyager encountered I think it would make it more interesting rather than showing the same thing over and over again
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To much Fun 😂😂😂😂😂!!! 🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖for your Video again!!!
Those Phasers on the Valor are vicious, glad the Mighty D took it down ;)
The Valor is a great twist to the Vengeance. The paint job alone really makes her less threatening, more like Starfleet. I think it makes the lines look so much better.
The Enterprise D is a thing of beauty.
3 Dominion Attack Ships
Lol
USS Odyssey. hubris
Only if it's the Riker refit Galaxy X Enterprise.
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a bunch of Galaxy X would have wiped the floor with the entire enemy fleet and make the Enterprise F look like the inferior ship it is.
The Enterprise-D ,is a very good Ship !!! Like i very 💝💝💝💝💝.
The stunning mighty D :) Best looking scfi ship ever.
Stop edging us and use all the ships no matter if one wins or not! 😂😂 I wanna see what the rest can do too!
2:31 For anyone confused, cesnored is the correct spelling of censored in the Kelvin Timeline.
In Kessok language, it's spelled "kes-nored", with an emphasis on the "kes".
Alternate timeline earbuds made by Smasnug
@@cujoedaman The Desolation of Smasnug.
USS Excelsior Kelvin timeline!
Truth!😂👍
Thank you very much this makes my day
5:34 "Well, that was a surprise"... to be sure, but a welcome one. We will watch your career with great interest. 😛
Yeah!
This was a hilarious one to watch. When you seemed confident then thirty seconds later your ship got blowed up lmao. I am happy that the Enterprise-D kicked the Valor's ass. The Valor is a nice ship definitely better looking then the Vengeance. I think had they had the Vengeance that color it would have looked more pleasing to the eye.
I always wondered (at the end of Into Darkness), why didn't Starfleet reverse engineer that technology. I'm glad that someone else thought of that.
A couple decades... holy crap! Khan really was engineered to be better. At what?
(I whispered this under my breath in the theater) Everything! 😄 I swear, I thought people would shush me because they thought I might have seen it. 😀
That's right, I forgot that it took the F to stop the Vengeance. This time the D was enough... though that was a close one. 😀
1:23 Holy Moly!!! 😂
Badger speaking to The Enterprises ( Some of you may die - Stares Menacingly at The NX-01 - but it's a sacrifice i am willing to make ) lolol.
How about.
KELVIN VOYAGER VS THE DOMINION ENHANCED ODESSY ( Star Trek vs Stargate ).
Respect and keep up the epic work.
You didn't censor your words, you cesnored them! :)
I still hope that poor Cpt. Archer and the NX-01 will have their revenge one day for always being completely obliterated in every 'All Enterprises vs.' video 😂
Captain Archer (......BADGERRRRRRRRR ).
Now I have to find out where that footage of Scott Bakula came from. 😀
I found it ... it was from an episode of Always Sunny in Philadelphia. 😆 I loved the cast, but I could never get into that series.
Despite it's weaknesses, I do like the nx and nx refit
Just to note you were actually making progress against the Vengeance with the D in your last video but you kept turning your weakest shield to them and lost. Maybe if you redid the battle and kept turning your stronger shields to them you could have won.
I have to second this because I was yelling at the screen the entire time back then...
Bros been doing it for yrs he isn't going to learn, when there's multiple enemies he also targets ships in the most awkward positions, like 90 degrees to the left, right, up or down, when there's already ships lined up directly in front or behind that he could fire torpedoes and phasers at.
Or he just skips the inferior version for the *superior* Galaxy X Enterprise D instead?
The USS Valor is far more realistic. The Klingons had the Narada for decades to study, while the Kelvin had merely scans under battle duress. Post-Kelvin starfleet ships are oddly advanced. Moreover, "Section 31" Vengeance wouldn't have been able to leap over a hundred years in technology. Creators need to stop making ships OP sometimes. A really fun battle to watch.
Always reminded of the movie dragonheart when i hear the name valor.
Aww, I was looking forward to seeing the "E" go after the Valor... 😔
I just can't grapple with the s sudden loss of the NX-01. 😿
gods the Valor is a beast
No, I think the Vengeance was ridiculously OP.
It would be on more or less equal footing of the ENT-A and ENT-B most likely, but not the ENT-C (or D).
For some reason I just imagined Tuvok saying, 'Our aft shield has failed. It's not cool!'. It would have been funny but so out of character 🖖
"CESNORED"
The Vengeance would have been defeated by the Galaxy in the previous video too if you had turned to the other side shields during that battle.
The vengeance design was the only good thing to come out the kelvin time line 😅
A interesting story that could be easilly canon in star trek online.
We already had in the temporal operative trailer the vengueance going trough a temporal rift.
The only part i cant find understandable is the 2 decade timing.... 20 years doesnt make sense.
Got more lens flares than the Bible has psalms
How about the shrike Vs The Eclipse class Enterprise G
U.S.S. Bottleopener 🖖
The Section 31 Vengeance's Weapons were just put on a different ship or Starbase. lol
I have no reason to believe that the Galaxy, in this form, would've even appeared in the Kelvin timeline; she'd have been a lot stronger, all things considered. The Kelvin universe is rather overpowered in truth, slapping lots of guns on a ship doesn't make it technically superior and it'd probably result in power-constrained scenarios, though I imagine fights would be over quicker.
Another Kelvin ship breaking up, such a beautiful site.
For a future video I'd be interested to see the stand off fight from TNG "the defector" we never got to see actually play out. So a younger Enterprise D and 3 large size Klingon birds of prey vs 2 Romulan D'deridex warbirds.
Is there a Enterprise J 'From Hell's version?
For her size the Vengeance along with the Valor are woefully underarmed. The saucer section doesn't seem to have any phaser emplacements and the only dorsal phaser banks are on the nacelles. For it's size and mission, the Vengeance at least should have phaser banks on the saucer section dorsal and ventral. I mean there isn't a need for spaces dedicated to science or research so the Vengeance should be crew births, med bays, transporters, mess hall, storage for crew needs, reactors and weapons. The saucer section should be brimming with dual phaser banks and shield generators. I mean for it's purpose, the Vengeance should be a fleet killer, able to warp in the midst of a enemy fleet and just start multi targeting the enemies blitzkrieging them into destruction. Also one weapons system that both the Vengeance and the Valor lacks is the torpedo drone. It's a drone weapons platform that kamikazes towards an enemy ship firing its torpedo compliment before crashing and self destructing to inflict more damage. However i guess it makes sense that the Starfleet version of the Vengeance is weaker than the Section 31 version considering their desire to no create absolute menaces of warships.
Even with newer designs they are still limited by 23rd Century tech. Power generation and miniaturization are hallmarks of advancement. The same ship built in the 2360s would be 50% smaller with 50% more power.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 I agree, however when you compare the Kelvin timeline ship sizes to the Prime universe ship sizes and you find that the Kelvin Enterprise is larger than a Galaxy class, about twice as large. The Vengeance is twice the size of the Kelvin Enterprise. Around 2 km in length. In Prime universe comparison the Vengeance is about twice the size of the Odyssey class we see in Picard and that ship is massive at a length of 1,061.1 meters, a width of 371.88 meters, and a height of 147.92 meters. Even if limited by 23rd century tech the size of the ships allow for them to house far larger power plants to generate the power it needs. Remember that the Prime universe Constitution class was small at 288m in length.
You're being obliterated partly because your ships can only fire one phaser at a time! I never liked how the ships could only fire one phaser at a time and the Valor can fire all that! It wasn't impossible for them in the shows, so i reversed that in my install of BC Remastered!
nice video can youu do rikers x class vs the armored voyager
USS Vengeance Vs USS Valor
"CESNORED" 😅.
Put the vengeance against the valor
shoulda done it vs the E-E just for shits and giggles.
first!, saddly on my pc the venegace and valor mod doesn't work
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Is it really "reverse engineering if the people that made a thing also built it's successor???
I wonder how many defiants it would take to destroy deep space nine?
The D can shoot 10 torpedoes from the single aft launcher in 5 seconds. It doesn't have 10 tubes.
How do you cesnor something?
Enterprise D won USS Valor but not USS vengeance the predecessor🤣😂
The vengeance was overpowered in bridge commander. The creator of it grosly overestimated it's strength and firepower..
The Vengeance he never put it against the Enterprise D galaxy X.
If he did I bet he wouldn't have needed to have wasted all that time with the other inferior Enterprises to beat it but he skipped it even though he used the non-canon NX.
DId someone see my Agamenon (NX-3000) in Star Trek online? Dreadnought with light color scheme (to look less evil and connie like)
The kelvin universe is so dumb, crisis or not how did they manage to close (in some ways surpass) a 100 year tech gap in the time it took Kirk to go from pram to starfleet academy?
They reverse-engineered Nero's ship.
The JJverse, scaling size, power, weapons, speed, are worse than star wars. Star Trek has always "especially TMP onwards to ent" has a sense of scale. The hero ships played it a little fast and loose, but that scale was still there. Nutrek lost that feel just like Jjverse... Which is why they fail.
I still call BS on that scan.
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Would you be able to put different species against different federation ships rather than different federationships against different federation ships I wouldn't mind seeing some Delta quadrant or beta quadrant or gamma quadrant species against these certain types of federation ships that Voyager encountered I think it would make it more interesting rather than showing the same thing over and over again