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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
3:00 What We're Doing This Episode
6:40 Potential Disappointments
8:50 Houston Astros Rotation
16:55 Texas Rangers Rotation
25:25 Toronto Blue Jays Lineup
34:30 Potential Surprises!
35:55 Los Angeles Angels Lineup
46:00 Milwaukee Brewers Lineup
53:25 Kansas City Royals Rotation
58:00 Who We Missed
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they accidentally left my mic on
Love dry lips Jolly
If the Astros ERA is better than last year, can I be the one to throw the egg on your face?!!
Btw, the Astros did win the west last year. You might have just misspoke.
@@KooperTX I did! Thats my bad. Forgot it was on the last day of the season lol
@@KooperTXastros suck
This is gonna be a good one, jolly and Jake are an elite duo I need more of!
Yessir no jomburger
Switch him with trevor
Jolly and Jake is such a fantastic duo
The whole lineup is always solid with this legendary company.
This is an episode of Wake n Jake and you cant convince me otherwise
They uploaded it to the wrong channel 💀 but I love wake n Jake so I’m here for it
Honorary Wake n Jake ep
I'm an Astros fan but I do trust the coaching. Dusty Baker isn't controlling the rotation anymore.
As an Astros fan, I'm also a bit worried about the rotation. Maybe Framber and Javier are better and Garcia and McCullers help in the second half. It could be really good or it could suck.
Historical Astros fan/all of MLB fan, and I think the Stros rotation this year has both a high ceiling and low floor. So, I guess you could say I'm on the fence feeling wise. As far as JV, he's only SUPPOSED to miss the first two weeks and I will not doubt him age wise until he's shown a reason to and he really hasn't yet for me. McCullers and Garcia are due back mid-season as well which at least guarantees some depth as well.
the great Frambino is our ace, we shall be just fine 😎
As a Jays fan I’d be surprised if the offense is better than last year
Just to add to your guy's Angels portion of the segment, they also have a free DH spot now. Could get some injury prone guys *cough cough* Rendon, some much needed rest. Great episode guys!
As an Astros fan, the rotation is our biggest concern along with our bullpen depth. We are counting on Luis Garcia coming back strong after getting injured early last season.
Framber and Javi will lead us to the promise land, the rest will work itself out
I really think that we have depth in our rotation. It might not be the best 1-3 (which is important come oct) but we have at least 9 starters that I feel can put us in a place to win ball games.
Verlander, Framber, Javier, urquity, brown, France, blanco, LMJ, and Garcia eventually. I would dare say that Brandon B and Spencer arrigheti would be back of the rotation starters on a worse team.
This is a bad take on the Astros. There is no talk about Garcia, BP is the strength especially come second half. Biggest question is #2 and #3 starter. If they come back to form we'll be good.
Ronel Blanco looking good in Astros spring training so far
Yeah Astros rotation I I think is built more for the rather than the regular season. The good news is though they play in a division where all the other teams also have question marks about their pitching besides the Mariners who have questions about their offense.
Yea keep Verlander on Ice for longer unleash his great old arm for the post season
I’m fully aware of how frustrating the Framiest Bear was in the 2nd half. He just killed my Roto team.
As an astros fan... you are 100% correct about our rotation. The 2nd half was very scary for me, with an up and down Framber, and Javier completely losing his stuff. For a bit during the second half it seemed like J.P. France was our most reliable guy.
I say the South Oklahoma Rangers will be sellers at the deadline. They maxed out the credit card and got a pay cut.
Hot take: Cement Jolly into the talkin baseball cast.
The angels injury bug is a lifetime angel. He has his number retired. He has a locker right next to Rendon and trout is moving closer to it too. But let’s go halos!
Kiermier as the jays 5 hitter is crazy.
That being said after last year’s perform Stanton batting 5th is insane too. Should be Torres or verdugo
Can you guys spin off the Jolly/Jake/BBD lineup? Jolly is one of my favorites and I love hearing more from BBD
Jolly is already on Wake n Jake very often and it’s that exact trio on there. Let’s leave Talkin baseball with the original four!
Y'all should have Jolly in more of these
He’s on a lot already haha we at least wanna keep one show with the original trio and bbd
Jolly was so good on this episode I watched it twice back to back
Seriously?
@@bigpictureguys8415 No but he really was that good
I'll admit it, I'm excited and as a fan have high expectations for the Dbacks this year. But objectively, there's a piece of me that knows there's a chance they will disappoint. We haven't made back to back post seasons since i was 10 years old 😭
Jolly is really well spoken and insightful.
I love this video a day things guys. I know it's alot work
Houston Astros fan here:
1. Let me just say, as an Astros fan I totally understand why it’s hard to be a JM fan, because y’all are so pro-Yankees. And y’all usually are rooting for which ever team plays against the Astros in the playoffs during your livestreams. But…
2. I can’t fault y’all for your coverage. Y’all have excellent coverage and y’all’s takes on sports is so solid. So…
3. Your take on our rotation is spot on. One thing I think y’all missed is, that a sub-par Astros rotation, is other team’s par or slightly above-par rotation. So yea, I’m worried about our rotation this year because they won’t perform up to typical Houston standards. But I believe our backend will get it done, and our bats will get us out of jams.
Nice to upload this Wake and Jake episode to Talking Baseball xD
Jolly, when not being koooooooky is a really good listen/watch
Just want to say Jolly is always welcome to sit in as far as I'm concerned
Astros won the West last year. And I'm not worried at all. How'd the Yankees do last year?
Brewers would do well to finish 3rd in the NL Central.
That Rangers rotation is perfectly fine. The team is driven on offense and they had a very similar looking rotation last year. When degrom went down it was primarily the same core it will be for 2024 that carried them through their stellar June-July. Also Dunning is easily the 2 there, last season for the majority of the year he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. He's a groundball pitcher with an elite fastball and below average offspeed. Coming into 2024 he's adding a new forkball which if it plays well could turn him into an insanely good pitcher. Don't sleep on the Rangers again, if anything they might be an even better team than last year.
Man as a rangers fan I do have to agree. All I can hope for is that with guys like winn, porter, latz, kent, rocker and leiter we will have a couple guys click for the future.
Mahle and DeGrom are on schedule for late July or August.
Astros guy 🙋♂️
With Verlander.. minor concern but he’s been throwing still, ramping up in pens just a late start. The age is slowing him down. So minor concern.
Framber.. major concern for me. Mentally and approach standpoint he scares me some. Think he can be good but I think his 2022 was his peak and it’s behind him.
Urquidy.. soft serve strike thrower. Minor concern, but has pitched in many big games and can do it.
Hunter Brown.. advanced stuff shows some real unfortunate luck in the ERA department. SIERA and FIP I think will align more for him. %s moved in the right direction, just poor results. I expect bounce back, very little concern but a little bit.
France.. major concern. Opposite of Brown. Bad %s and SIERA but good ERA.
Hopeful to see Lance McCullers and/or Luis Garcia at some point. Maybe around the trade deadline.
Look for Spencer Arrighetti to come up. Good fastball, + slider.
So overall I do think it’s our weaker link especially to start. Could finish strong but the first 1/3 of the year worries me some.
Joez being over 40 and acting the way he does is crazyyyy
I read this in Joez voice
Astro fan here ⚾ Not to concerned about Astros rotation. The Astros have 10 legit Starting pitchers. ❤
Justin Verlander
Framber Valdez
Cristian Javier
Luis Garcia
Lance McCullers Jr.
José Urquidy
Hunter Brown
J.P. France
Ronel Blanco
Brandon Bielak
JOLLYYYYYYY Angels love u back
I see jolly I click it’s that simple
Take a shot every time Jolly says injured on the Angels segment
Jolly is the GOAT
I get it guys!! Jolly is the best!!
Agreed with what you gents had to say about my Blue Jays. Our Identity this year is just like last year: good pitching, awful base running. Fringe wildcard team, but honestly wouldnt be surprised seeing them miss playoffs and finish 4th in AL East.
The issue for the Rangers last year was always the bullpen. The starting guys did well. That is my question this year: How will the bullpen improve?
IMO SEA will surprise with rotation & line up
I’m surprised that M’s are 1-9-1 lmao. Keep expectations as low as possible.
As a Rangers fan it’s (as always) our starting pitching that’s been our achilles heel. I feel like we need Montgomery as insurance but the team might not have much more room to spend in light of their tv deal.
No it's your bullpen... if your bullpen play at all like the regular season the rangers wouldve been smoked in the post season
@@lmaokai392 one could argue we need help in both areas. But yes our bullpen exceeded expectations in the postseason
@@scoringbox2176we added Yates and Robertson and have everyone healthy in the pen now. The BP will be much improved
And I can't wait for the Dodgers to be disappointed
jays cant disappoint this year because ball knowers expect nothing from them anymore
Right?
Why would anyone assume they’re going to be successful? They limped into the postseason then were dismissed handily.
Verlander is out 2 weeks at most. He’s isn’t injured.
Framber can be a head case, sure.
Javier’s going to be fine.
Urquidy is reliable.
JP France and Brown are dawgs.
McCullers and Garcia are back halfway through the season.
Blanco and Arrighetti are looking ready to join the rotation whenever needed. Come trade deadline the Astros will have 10 starters. A surplus of starters. I have zero worries.
Yall need a JD Davis? Looks like you’re really likin’ the Dubon we sent your way.
Pass on Davis
@@bradleyc328was gonna say "been there, done that" but... Astros just brought Hader back, so sure, why not, bring back JD Davis as well. O_o
The team in this category with the most extreme ceiling and floor in a the NEW YORK YANKEES guys. That team is a wildcard because of injuries and relying on bounce backs. They could win 75 games or 100.
As an Astros fan, I’m also worried about our rotation.
Don’t they’ll start Slow. But this is the year when McCullers is a + and Garcia is also coming back. Urquidy is not tipping anymore. I honestly believe past July the pitching staff is better
JV is only supposed to miss the 1st time through the rotation, Luis Garcia & McCullers are set to return June-July, we have a good pitching prospect in Spencer Arrighetti, Ronel Blanco who was turned into a starter last season is looking like a viable option.
If Baez is at the very least serviceable and others take a step forward/stay healthy, the Tigers lineup could be really solid.
Jolly!!!!!!!!!!!
39:06 fwiw he was also really good in 2020
I just don't know what the Rays will be this season. Especially with 3 good pitchers starting the season on the IL for a couple of months. And the loss of Glas.
Rangers have basically the same rotation this year as last year for the first half. (monty was a mid season pick up, perez out wasnt that great last year) And they were first place in the west for all of the first half of the year. Is that not worth anything?
Saying the Astros could disappoint this year is like saying the Astros are the new Yankees... Anything less than a ring is disappointing because they're so elite. Seriously their offense is still so deep and consistent as is their pitching. How could you not have them as shoe-ins for the alcs
Their pitching is a question mark whether you like it or not. Verlander is already hurt and he ain't getting any younger. And the rest of the rotation outside of Valdez, needs to prove they will bounce back from last year, otherwise, they won't be good again this year and the Astros will be going home again in the playoffs.
They’re trash
@@samuelsandate9804So basically get to the Alcs AGAIN and lose?😂😂 Also all you said was pitching....not starting rotation. The bullpen is at least top 3 and 4 of these guys that could start are RECENT champions/ prime time playoff performers. Until I see them struggle after an off season of trying to fix what their issues were last year.....I'm gonna be confident in them.
@@dnavarro972Let it go brother 😂
@@sancho004 At some point that ALCS streak will come to an end. And that could well happen this year. No streak or dynasty lasts forever, eventually it will come to an end.
Dam I clicked the video amped to hear about giants and then Jake says there banned this episode 😭😂
As an Astros fan, the starting rotation made me nervous at the end of the season. I feel like we are in the same place at the beginning of the season now. 100% not wrong. Our batting line up though has improved so much though! And I don’t think we even need to mention our bullpen and how much magic we are about to witness.
Good luck this year and I hope our games don’t get too bloody. I hope they’re all good games.
Sincerely, rangers fan.
Calling Rendon a BONUS piece is a little ridiculous at this point guys
I really wish there was a chance for 3.5 hours of TB, but alas, I get why y'all don't.
REALLY hope the boys in blue wont dissapoint ya! I am just wanting KC to get in the playoffs. Many teams (including themselves) have proven what can happen by just getting to the tournament!
As an Astros fan, I’m most worried about JV and his age.
He’s walking a tight rope rn and I’m VERY interested to see him on the mound
Astros didn’t loose the AL West last year. Well Ranger’s lost or Mariners won it for the Astros. Same same
What shirt is Jolly wearing??
whoa. there's a new refguess ??
I think I’m either older than or about the same age as jolly but he is 100% my father no doubt
When it is just Trev and Jake it is players only,
When it is just Jomboy and Jake it is front office only
When it is Jake and Jolly it is... Maybe scouts only???
As an Astros fan, I am concerned about early season health. But Garcia and McCullers should both return sometime in the second half. Who knows what you get out of McCullers, but Garcia coming back will be massive.
Actually as an Astros fan I was worried about the starting rotation last season and even more this season.
Love listening to these guys but I do wish they would provide more insight on why they like a guy or not other than using OPS and OPS+
I agree with BBD and the Orioles but not for the reasons he mentioned....
4:45 you can talk yourself into the giants having a top 8 rotation? Really?
Evidently ketamine is readily available at Jomboy World Domination HQ.
Disappointing teams this season in my opinion are going to be The Rangers and The Phillies
Most surprising teams I feel are going to be The Nationals and The Tigers (I think they’ll getting some hype already)
JOLLY OLIVE LIKES MY ANGELS LINEUP 🥹
ALL THIS SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS A MARINERS SWEEP WOOOO GO MS
1-9-1
Let’s goooo jolly the real goat of Jomboy
Washington can turn LAA around
I loved Vlad Jr until I got to know him and people crowned him after 1 season…hell even earlier than that.
Seeing him not do the work to be great year after year totally fits him. Unlike his dad he grew up rich & entitled. Prove me wrong Vladdy
Giants have no business being in a high enough position to turn it into a disappointment. They’re already a perpetually disappointing team.
Brandon Belt did not provide the veteran leadership that Blue Jays were expecting out of him. Sure, he's a good clubhouse guy but that's not what the team needs. Too much fun is the bane of the Blue Jays existence, they don't have enough gamers in the lineup.
BJ^2 episode
If Astros fans don’t like you guys it’s because the company caught them cheating, not because of the good job u all do. They can’t stand the whole Trashtros thing
jolly olive yaps too much
Mariners are 1-9-1 so far this spring and no one is freaking out about that???
Here
I love the channel but it seems like you guys kinda just like to act as if the Rangers don't exist haha. Not necessarily this video but in general. Especially since they just won it all.
TEXAS RANGERS WILL REPEAT
I don't know. I think one of the texas teams wins it all.
Trashtros gonna be 🗑 for the next 15 years, super excited
Jake as the host 👎
Thumbs down to you, he hosts his own show beyond this one and crushes it. He's a workhorse