Richard Dawkins addresses Ben Afflecks accusations of racism and bigotry towards Sam Harris and Bill Maher during the conversation on Real Time with Bill Maher.
A non Sam is too careful not to use poorly researched blanket statements. He was very clear about the distinction between different subgroups within Islam. During Maher show they spent a large portion of a discussion on making that distinction. What’s interesting is that you watched Maher show, listen to Dawkins, watch Ben to go on drug induced rant mostly on issues what were actually not brought up at all, and you still think it’s important to criticize Sam, free country, do what you want, but remember you are being unreasonable and your point of you is on the fringe of public opinion.
Why, just because they've written books, which you probably haven't even read... They can't say anything wrong or be challenged? Sounds like your building a religion around their authority...
I wouldn't say it's entirely unintentional. I envy his verbal I.Q. He can walk the line between simple observation and scathing insult with the skill of a mountain goat.
Ben Affleck showed everyone what celebrity privilege is. You don't need to make sense or use rational discourse as long as you're famous and there's a mob of zombie fans to agree with all the drivel you say. Oh, and the best Batman ever is Christian Bale.
@@MarkoVukovic0 on-set, an actor at least is in his domain of expertise. To complain about a lighting guy, who is walking around in the background while the actor is trying to shoot a scene...Makes sense to me. That is something very different to what Affleck did with Sam Harris, at the wrong time and for the wrong reason. Affleck later even doubled down on it.
When you have the huge advantage of script writers and directors that shape and develop your characters for you, it may be difficult to not fall into the trap of believing that you are everything your characters are. The "I'm not a doctor but I play on on TV" mindset might be something they should be aware of and be careful of. Try humility to avoid egg on the face. Just saying.🍺
Ben Affleck was randomly too annoyed while he clearly didn't understand nor let Sam Harris finished up a statement. In fact, Ben Afflect acted like a teen throwing tantrum and couldn't even construct a proper sentence to make a decent argument. What a shame!
Ha ha ha ha ha Dawkins, jealous? I think you need to take a break from whatever it is you do and get real. @blake bishop Dawkins is 1000 times more important to the world than any actor.
@blake bishop so?your point is invalid.You are not more important to the eorld if you are more famous than others.There are twitch streamers that literally sit 12 hours straight and play video games on their room while eating food like ninja and they are known by millions.Do they do anything important?.No!!Kim kardashian is really rich and very famous by releashing a sex tape and having a nice ass...is she important?of course not dont be absurd dawkings is actually doing a great job and has contributed to science and to society.
Mark Twain was a racist, and used the N-word several times throughout his literature. Perhaps you can quote Ghandi who was also a racist, or Charles Darwin who was also racist.
@@rs72098 if a racist says there are 7 days in a week we cannot reject that statement just because it is spoken by a racist. A racist man can speak truth too. In case u hadn't noticed this video is about people like you who would label someone racist and bigot without spending a minute on what the person is actually talking about.
Couldn't agree more. If Islam was practiced mainly by white Westerners, a puppet liberal like Affleck wouldn't bat an eyelash at what Harris had to say. I wonder what Benny has to say about Trump supporters? I bet he is Trumpaphobic.
Ben Affleck was so high and coked out he thought it was Ben Stiller on the show and not Sam Harris. Didn't know he was up against an intellectual heavyweight.
And btw Sam recently used an example of if he had been pulled over by police because an all points bulletin had been put out on a Ben Stiller look alike, He would simply just comply without any backtalk a police officer because they should be allowed to kill you. His words!! Check out his podcast. My point is not so much about Ben Affleck as it is the quasi Sam.
Richard Dawkins raw power....He's an incredible scientist and a man of reason, something that Ben Afleck and others have parted from since Neaderthal times....
Affleck is something lower than even neadrethals ,atleast they contributed to human evolution,with minute diversity.People like affleck are substrate left behind after human race moved forward,the very substrate that questions the FACT that is human evolution. Did humanity really evolve fully or did we move along the way dropping turds like affleck behind,during the evolutionary cycle, to constantly remind us of our failures as a species.Either way,now you know why he TANKED the batman role.
I like Dawkins in general, but IMHO he's making classic errors here. 1) Science does not divide humanity into different 'races'. There's only one race, the Human Race. 2) In modern times, 'Racism' as a definition is not restricted to the discrimination of a 'race', like it used to be in past centuries, but refers to every form of general discrimination of a group of people, based upon their ethnicity, nationality, conviction, gender, sexual orientation or religion. One may critisize an idea, a religion, or certain behaviour, but discriminating 'Muslims' (or i.e. 'Jews') in general as a group, can by todays standards (UN) be called 'Racism'.
Well said, sir. I know ben didnt intend it that way but his ignorance was shown at that show and in trying to showcase himself as the dark knight he painted himself as the joker instead.
It's almost offensive when these people so blindly defend Islam. Like pretending they couldn't possibly be held accountable for their actions. Treating them like children that you're not allowed to get angry at.
Oh really? Defending Islam is different than defending muslims? Please tell me if this sounds good to you: Nobody can defend Nazi ideology but nazis themselves should not be blamed. Ideology is nothing but idea, Islam never threw a bottle of acid on a woman face, Islam never stoned anyone to death, Islam never chopped any heads... Islam is nothing but words on paper...
Liberal here. I agree, a culture of violence and homophobia doesn’t rate high in my book. If I criticize America for its flaws I’d be hypocritical not to criticize many other countries to a greater degree. When I served in Bahrain their treatment of the poor and non citizens was horrid, much worse than our own (which I still wish to improve)
+Erick L Why is it a lapsus? ..... islam is a political ideology controlling every aspect of life including how behave towards non-muslims, how to dress or step into a toilet. Politics and the context of 'religion' are and always have been inseparable in that part of the world. Therefore religion has little or nothing to do with criticising islam as it isn't actually a religion. 2 people who didn't understand.
As someone who's both a fan of Richard Dawkins and Batman, this was very exhilarating to watch. I'm so grateful that brilliant and compassionate intellectuals like Professor Dawkins exists. Ben, who had most of the time been rational and professional, was probably drunk and out of his mind that night, yet, Sir Dawkins doesn't insult him or ridicule Ben at all. He's just so calm. That's how intelligent people express themselves.
Been Affleck USED to be one of my favorite actors. I don't generally judge an actor by their off screen actions...after all, they are citizens who have a right to their political opinions. But to go on Bill Maher's show, honking on at Sam Harris who has made a life's study of Islam and it's manifold, horrendous attitudes toward women, gays, non-muslims, etc, blathering from the viewpoint of practically NO knowledge of the subjects being addressed, all Mr. Affleck managed to do was make it quite clear that all he is is another pretty Hollywood face, with a self-promoting agenda and a body worthy of the Batsuit.
Richard Dawkins is most definitely a *_breath_* of fresh air. And it is quite possible for Richard Dawkins to *_breathe_* fresh air --- though at the time he would likely be very far from London (or any other major city for that matter).
They used to call anyone who was critical of Islam, a racist. When you point out that anyone can be Muslim, and that it has nothing to do with race, they invented the term "islamophobic". But when you again point that you derived your opinion of it from observation, education and knowledge - and not from prejudice - then they just call you a hater.
Some actors such as Ben Affleck believe that if they can impersonate someone in a movie, they can also simply internalize their other abilities. Playing a scientist does not make you brilliant. I hope he's not that naive to jump out of a window because he thinks that he can fly like batman. But one never knows
Indeed islam is not a race You can criticize any book or any religion if it contains nonsense like islam Dawkins is always there to stand up against bullshit
2:11 What Richard is describing is the “racism of low expectations” which is often thrown around by so-called anti-racist people nowadays. If you criticise a non-Western culture or religion, you get told you can’t do that and that you’re being a racist, whereas those same people would rail against you if you were to do anything that people from those cultures do. They are clearly against it but simultaneously justify it in the case of non-Westerners as if nationality or race determines morality. The idea that morality changes depending on race or nationality is called racism.
@@noblechubaka8296 Ben Affleck makes movies that make a lot of money. In the mass media head office that makes him the gold standard of . . . uHH . . . gold? What was the question?
He called them racists hoping they would shut up, but good on them for saying that its definitely not racist. The racism card gets used falsely wayyy too much.
I laughed so hard when that video came out of that guy spotting a book with the title "Acting for Dummies" in the back of Ben Affleck's convertable. Affleck even gets in the driver seat and drives away proving it was his car!! Hahaha!
Oh Dear! an actor trying to be intelligent versus a science heavyweight! Suggest Affleck goes back to gerbling and T bagging with his Hollywood chums. 😂
That is not the issue. Ben successfully painted Sam as a racist and bigot to millions of people who don't know anything about him. People eat it up if celebrities say something. Ben didn't understand Sam's stance on Islam at all, he barely scratched the surface but he wanted that white knight oh-look-I-am-against-bigots glory, which I am sure he did (to a significant number of people).
Kuenga Norbu ...He may have tried to paint Sam as a racist & a bigot to millions of people, but he didn't do it successfully. The vast majority of people could see through Ben Aflecks insincerity & lack of any real understanding of the subject. I thought Afleck took a cheap shot at Sam Harris in order to promote himself as the "Good guy", but in actual fact, he took the easy, cowardly way by not speaking the truth about the insanity of Islam.
It's funny how Dawkins is called a misogynist by feminists, but then when he attacks Islam for misogyny feminists defend Islam and call him a racist. Around we go the crazy-go-round!
+Edbrad The people who call Dawkins misogynist are the same kind of people would would call Bernie Sanders a communist, Bill Gates a peasant and Hitler a decent human being.
+Nautilus1972 If that's something he said, I'm sure you warped it and took it out of context. Furthermore, if he said something like that, I'm sure he didn't advocate the abortion of babies, rather the abortion of fetuses, which are not yet babies. Though your likely Christian attribute might disagree.
Nautilus1972 Even if he said that and even if he meant it the way you imply he meant it, it still wouldn't make him a misogynist. I'll defend Hitler and Bin Laden if they're being accused of nonsense, not because I care about them, but because it cheapens true accusations. And at that point you might as well make up whatever you like and none of it really matters.
+mediastarguest: napolean Bonaparte said that? I don't know if it is true or not, but all religions and all gods are man made. Nope, I do not have any proof. I wasn't there 10,000 years ago with my video camera. Even if I was, all we would see if some guy going to sleep and waking up saying "Hey, the gods spoke to me". There is no way for me to prove that what he said is untrue.
I will admit a schism in my thinking. Ultimately I'll probably never fall in with any organised religion. At the same time I don't buy "there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim". From what I can see plenty of Muslims hate that the crazies hijacked their faith. So far I've let these conflicting thoughts hang inside me.
@@rairadio7119 So there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim ? Good. It's about how the book is interpreted, isn't it. I keep being told I HAVE to read the book to venture a view. Is it a call to arms ? Not for all Muslims.
Although I agree with everything Dawkins is saying I can't stop wondering if he would say the same thing (or anything, as a matter of fact ) about Jews and their claim that they are a race, branding everyone who dare to criticize Judaism as " anti-Semitic ". What would be he's thoughts on that?
So Islamic countries have literally placed women as a whole into a second class citizen status under shariah law, and have laws which complete forbid homosexuality and in some case even the right to practice other faiths, but it's considered racist or bigoted to condemn Islam which is the sole premise of shariah law. I condemn Islam not Muslims. Ideas not people. I do so because I have a great deal of sympathy for the people who suffer under the oppressive ideals which dominate the culture they were born into, and Im pretty sure Sam Harris has articulated the same stance many times and would of done the same with Ben if he had been give the chance to speak in a civil manner. Ideas are not people, they do not posses a race, and if being intolerant of idea is considered bigotry then it's bigotry to be intolerant of bigotry, or to hold any moral standard above any other. I for one have no problem saying the moral stands of the Mid-east bare a staggering deficiency when compared to the west and that main source of this which is Islam.
Just do yourself a favor and stop. Fucking stop. You're way too stupid for this. Just take your hands off the keyboard and take a walk. Get some fresh air.
Ben was only stating that, Sam was over generalising people by associating Islam with extremists... I love Dawkins, but he has taken Ben out of context completely
***** There is no "liberal islam" or "liberal christianity" nor any liberal abrahamic religion. After you try to change the values and doctrines of some religion it stops being the same religion it has been.
mr147eire 70% of British muslims said that death was an appropriate response for drawing mohammed.... thats a statistic and it can't be overgeneralised. Thats a real statistic. I honestly thought that Afleck seemed like an asshole who didn't know what he was talking about.
mr147eire except Sam did NOT over-generalize Muslims. Go watch the video again. Sam PRESENTED STATISTICS to Ben. Sam, for example, said "~80% of Muslims are ok, it is the ~20% who want to impose jihadist ideologies on rest of the world" (not exact quote, but u can find it in the interview).
If he is a neuroscientist then why does he not contribute in his field of "expertise" Why is so obsessed with religion particularly islam . Its because he is paid to do so . The neuroscience bit is window dressing to make him look academic. His so called bestsellers has nothing new to offer this world. He writes the books which are heavily sales pitched in the media and i am quite sure this bestseller tag is all nonsense . Its funny how all these islamophobes produce bestsellers and appear in time magazine . Amazing when better books by better authours dont make the best seller list . Its all rigged to fit in with the agenda . sam Harris and his buddy dawkins have contributed zilch to the advancement of humanity simply regurgitating other peoples hard work . sam
haroon hussein You haven't really put up an argument. The bestselling portion isn't a lie, they're both genuinely successful authors. Both have contributed to their scientific fields, but find religion and islam, especially, dangerous. As far as contributing to humanity, they've done a lot to advance arguments against stupid iron-age myths.
The educational background is irrelevant here. Sadly, there are plenty of academics who would take Ben Affleck's position, too. On the other hand, there are many people with little education who can apply simple logic very well and observe what they see with an open mind. It's the amount of letting oneself fall into an ideological mindset and not doing their own research that makes people stupid.
I’d be wary of equating education with intelligence, although in this instance it is true that Ben Affleck barely has two brain cells to rub together compared to Sam Harris.
@Shine Dal garno Bollocks. Just because he isn't religious doesnt mean he has a bad or questionable character. Youve complained about whats been said about affleck and instantly contradicted yourself by slandering harris' character. Grow up.
Right on, Professor! I met both you, Sam Harris, Lawrence Krauss, Neil Tyson and many others at Beyond Belief in 2006 and loved every second of it for the level of discourse so rare on the outside these days, and have followed (and recommended) all of you to many people over the years - Hitch included though he wasn't at this event.
Bravo, Richard Dawkins :) Yes, some people think that slapping the "That's Racist!" card down on the table acts like a comprehensive denouncement and instant shut-down of the other person's argument, granting an automatic win. Sucks for Affleck that the "That's Racist!" card isn't a valid play in mature debates.
I was a little surprised to discover that, in the interview Dawkins referenced, Sam Harris claimed that “Islam is, at the moment, the mother lode of bad ideas”. That’s a pretty big call.
Some movie stars and singers get their heads stuck up their arses when they become famous. I am reminded of Sting and his rants about saving the World, and all the time jetting around to do concerts etc.
I enoyed a couple of films he was in. That's it! There are Actors out there such as Matt Damon who can hold their own in a discussion. Afflick should remember that it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt!
I really like Richard Dawkins and his ideas. He makes so much practical common sense. I mean, stuff about life that should be soooo obvious to even the least educated man. But Richard is so proper and always serious about whatever subject is being discussed. I have never seen Richard being playful or silly, just for the hell of having fun. Even when he's joking, he comes across as though he's teaching you something.
Honestly its been hard to take Ben Affleck seriously in any role since I saw him on Bill Maher, I have a hard time disassociating his character from the buffoon he is in real life. I guess thats why actors normally just stick to acting.
I like Richard. A truth teller. A knowledge to embrace in this society where the majority of people following religious beliefs are devilishly ignorant to facts . They replace knowledge by blind acceptance of questionable norms their beliefs instill in them.
it's rendered in 720p but its a recording from another video or from tv . so it can never be true 720 p , only rendered 720p... but at least its not 480 . don't go crying now :)
Ben Affleck was just acting the role of somebody who defends Islam, but he acted so well that everybody got convinced... now that's what I call a talent
Poor Ben if he had two brain cells he would be dangerous, but his rant only proved how afraid these actors are so they appear virtuous in case the sport light on cancellation falls upon them
I'm so glad Dawkins is around.
+Thou Art That Unlike hitchens .
Brador Bobinski yup.
Thou Art That Thanks to cancer.
Brador Bobinski yup.
+Thou Art That I miss Hitchens so much.
The thought of Ben Affleck intellectually challenging either Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins is an excellent idea for a comedy script.
Or Bill Maher😂
A non Sam is too careful not to use poorly researched blanket statements. He was very clear about the distinction between different subgroups within Islam. During Maher show they spent a large portion of a discussion on making that distinction. What’s interesting is that you watched Maher show, listen to Dawkins, watch Ben to go on drug induced rant mostly on issues what were actually not brought up at all, and you still think it’s important to criticize Sam, free country, do what you want, but remember you are being unreasonable and your point of you is on the fringe of public opinion.
Ben Affleck challenging them is like me challenging LeBron to a one on one basketball game.
A non Ben called them “racist” for criticising a RELIGION😂✌️
Why, just because they've written books, which you probably haven't even read... They can't say anything wrong or be challenged? Sounds like your building a religion around their authority...
Richard Dawkins is so good at politely and unintentionally yet hilariously mocking someone.
I wouldn't say it's entirely unintentional. I envy his verbal I.Q. He can walk the line between simple observation and scathing insult with the skill of a mountain goat.
Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens could kill you with words.
Richard Dawkins encourages mockery...its not unintentional.
@Batman Dave His intelligence far surpasses the entire collection of your family. Go clean your gun.
Don’t need any special qualities to mock and scorn an ounce of ignorance is sufficient
Ben Affleck showed everyone what celebrity privilege is. You don't need to make sense or use rational discourse as long as you're famous and there's a mob of zombie fans to agree with all the drivel you say.
Oh, and the best Batman ever is Christian Bale.
"the best Batman ever is Christian Bale", yes by far!
I guess you haven't seen Christian Bale's on-set tirades.
@@MarkoVukovic0 on-set, an actor at least is in his domain of expertise. To complain about a lighting guy, who is walking around in the background while the actor is trying to shoot a scene...Makes sense to me. That is something very different to what Affleck did with Sam Harris, at the wrong time and for the wrong reason. Affleck later even doubled down on it.
Adam West.
When you have the huge advantage of script writers and directors that shape and develop your characters for you, it may be difficult to not fall into the trap of believing that you are everything your characters are. The "I'm not a doctor but I play on on TV" mindset might be something they should be aware of and be careful of. Try humility to avoid egg on the face. Just saying.🍺
"It was a disgraceful exhibition of bigotry on Ben Afleck's part". I can listen to this guy forever.
"It was a disagreeable episode"
This is so great
"Ben Affleck whom I didn't know, but I understand he's batman" LOL
"the ben affleck..." caught it the 2nd time. Its even funnier lol.
Max Miles VILLA TIL I DIE
Max Miles same
😀😀
A brilliant yet subtle kick in the nuts for ben affleck. A very British type of insult.Well done Mr Dawkins. Oh and UTV
Ben's rant is an example of what someone would say when they have no knowledge whatsoever about the subject.
Ben Affleck should stick strictly to acting where he can just pretend he's brilliant.
That’s not something he can do convincingly
He refuted mahr and harris and your only response is to attack him personally...
@@syrianatheist7956 he didn't refute Sam Harris, not even closely.
@@syrianatheist7956 So....are you going to answer?
Ben Affleck was randomly too annoyed while he clearly didn't understand nor let Sam Harris finished up a statement. In fact, Ben Afflect acted like a teen throwing tantrum and couldn't even construct a proper sentence to make a decent argument. What a shame!
What do we get from this... Ben Affleck is still acting as his character in Good Will Hunting. Seems like he cant get out of that character.
+Gennaro rossi thou art truly à knight of the round anus
+Gennaro rossi Skinhead?
+Marcelo Benatto Ferreira Except it was good in Good Will Hunting, this is just bullshit
+Marcelo Benatto Ferreira i was also expecting him to finish his argument with "now sam how u like DEM apples?!"
+Marcelo Benatto Ferreira Apple sauce bitch !
Why was Ben Affleck on a TV show to discuss politics in the first place?
...because ratings?
Because he is Batman!
+clueso He is not Batman and never will be.
Because he was on the bill maher show. That's what it is. A political/social talk show with political figures and celebrities.
+Lorenzo Wilson authorities
Sam Harris is like Matt Damon in Good Will hunting and Ben Affleck is like Ben Affleck in good Will hunting
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@Ian TB 120 unearned likes now
Ben Affleck in an intellectual discussion with Sam Harris…sorry…I think I just peed myself laughing…
Yeah. Massively out of his depth trying to talk to Sam Harris
Ben Affleck is smarter than Sam Harris
Ben Affleck was way in over his head intellectually. The more talking he did the more uncomfortable I felt for him.
He didn't even understand sam's point. Look at the video, Ben's so dumb.
+Victor Mata you are eloquent!
+Victor Mata Ben is undereducated and talking out of skool. MAYBE he has muzlims sucking his ass? For Hollywood's sake?
+Danny Rosario Stick to bad movies, Ben. Daredevil comes to mind.
+Waveman MAV Ben is wrong intellectually. Religion is not a race.
"the Ben Affleck whom I didn't know but I understand he's Batman", love his sense of humor
Ha ha ha ha ha Dawkins, jealous? I think you need to take a break from whatever it is you do and get real. @blake bishop
Dawkins is 1000 times more important to the world than any actor.
@blake bishop so?your point is invalid.You are not more important to the eorld if you are more famous than others.There are twitch streamers that literally sit 12 hours straight and play video games on their room while eating food like ninja and they are known by millions.Do they do anything important?.No!!Kim kardashian is really rich and very famous by releashing a sex tape and having a nice ass...is she important?of course not dont be absurd dawkings is actually doing a great job and has contributed to science and to society.
@blake bishop Selfish gene...He advanced evolution...
@blake bishop i have
@blake bishop i have.Have you?
From what I see, most of the people crying "racism" are, in fact, racist themselves.
Exactly that
said every racist ever.
When I want Ben Affleck's opinion, I'll give it to him.
... with a slap :D
@@MarkoVukovic0 and a black penis
Mark Twain summed it up best, '' Religion was created when the first con man met the first fool"
He didn't do anything 'best'.
Good point well made.
@@drdassler Matter of opinion
Mark Twain was a racist, and used the N-word several times throughout his literature. Perhaps you can quote Ghandi who was also a racist, or Charles Darwin who was also racist.
@@rs72098 if a racist says there are 7 days in a week we cannot reject that statement just because it is spoken by a racist. A racist man can speak truth too. In case u hadn't noticed this video is about people like you who would label someone racist and bigot without spending a minute on what the person is actually talking about.
Islamaphobia is no more "racist" than Naziaphobia
Couldn't agree more. If Islam was practiced mainly by white Westerners, a puppet liberal like Affleck wouldn't bat an eyelash at what Harris had to say. I wonder what Benny has to say about Trump supporters? I bet he is Trumpaphobic.
@@josephkingsley8708 Anyone with a brain is "Trumpaphobic." Stupidity is also not a race.
Or Christophobia for that matter.
@@imcallingjapan2178 I disagree, look at his offspring. It must be their genetic make up.
I just think it's hilarious that Ben Affleck was paired off against Sam Harris in an intellectual debate 😂😂😂
Ben Affleck was so high and coked out he thought it was Ben Stiller on the show and not Sam Harris. Didn't know he was up against an intellectual heavyweight.
Quasi-intellectual you mean. Ben is much more accomplished. And came from much less. Sam is a racist trust fund baby.
@@brentnoury7626 based on the video from the Maher show? LoL I think you've been using too much of Affleck's product...
@@TSK24692 His point is correct. Sam is a closet racist. His views and opinions on race matters prove it.
And btw Sam recently used an example of if he had been pulled over by police because an all points bulletin had been put out on a Ben Stiller look alike, He would simply just comply without any backtalk a police officer because they should be allowed to kill you. His words!! Check out his podcast. My point is not so much about Ben Affleck as it is the quasi Sam.
@@brentnoury7626 disagree. But you're entitled to your opinion... Doesn't help your argument though.
I was an atheist...
Now I believe in Richard Dawkins!!! ; )
What??
Richard Dawkins raw power....He's an incredible scientist and a man of reason, something that Ben Afleck and others have parted from since Neaderthal times....
*neanderthal
Affleck is something lower than even neadrethals ,atleast they contributed to human evolution,with minute diversity.People like affleck are substrate left behind after human race moved forward,the very substrate that questions the FACT that is human evolution. Did humanity really evolve fully or did we move along the way dropping turds like affleck behind,during the evolutionary cycle, to constantly remind us of our failures as a species.Either way,now you know why he TANKED the batman role.
All I heard was "blah blah blah" from Shiva - what a joke.
Yeah, actors should be the first cull
I like Dawkins in general, but IMHO he's making classic errors here. 1) Science does not divide humanity into different 'races'. There's only one race, the Human Race. 2) In modern times, 'Racism' as a definition is not restricted to the discrimination of a 'race', like it used to be in past centuries, but refers to every form of general discrimination of a group of people, based upon their ethnicity, nationality, conviction, gender, sexual orientation or religion.
One may critisize an idea, a religion, or certain behaviour, but discriminating 'Muslims' (or i.e. 'Jews') in general as a group, can by todays standards (UN) be called 'Racism'.
Now this is epic. You nailed it Richard.
Well said, sir. I know ben didnt intend it that way but his ignorance was shown at that show and in trying to showcase himself as the dark knight he painted himself as the joker instead.
It's almost offensive when these people so blindly defend Islam. Like pretending they couldn't possibly be held accountable for their actions. Treating them like children that you're not allowed to get angry at.
Who is really defending Islam? Defending Muslims and defending Islam doctrine is a little different.
Dia Dia no.....not really
Couldn't have said it better!
Oh really? Defending Islam is different than defending muslims?
Please tell me if this sounds good to you:
Nobody can defend Nazi ideology but nazis themselves should not be blamed.
Ideology is nothing but idea, Islam never threw a bottle of acid on a woman face, Islam never stoned anyone to death, Islam never chopped any heads... Islam is nothing but words on paper...
Liberal here. I agree, a culture of violence and homophobia doesn’t rate high in my book. If I criticize America for its flaws I’d be hypocritical not to criticize many other countries to a greater degree. When I served in Bahrain their treatment of the poor and non citizens was horrid, much worse than our own (which I still wish to improve)
"It's a misconception that anybody who critisizes islam is being religious."
Nice lapsus. :-)
Second person to notice that, good job.
+Erick L Why is it a lapsus? ..... islam is a political ideology controlling every aspect of life including how behave towards non-muslims, how to dress or step into a toilet. Politics and the context of 'religion' are and always have been inseparable in that part of the world. Therefore religion has little or nothing to do with criticising islam as it isn't actually a religion. 2 people who didn't understand.
+Erick L did you not see the correction that he meant racist... it was implied anyway
+Erick L Actually there are many in the atheist community that think that only christians criticizing islam.
+MrSuper1o1 those atheists are ignorant..
The only question I asked myself
Why is Ben afleck debating Sam Harris ?
As someone who's both a fan of Richard Dawkins and Batman, this was very exhilarating to watch. I'm so grateful that brilliant and compassionate intellectuals like Professor Dawkins exists. Ben, who had most of the time been rational and professional, was probably drunk and out of his mind that night, yet, Sir Dawkins doesn't insult him or ridicule Ben at all. He's just so calm. That's how intelligent people express themselves.
So you think he was just inebriated and “out of his mind” instead of the more likely probability that he’s just not intelligent.
He absolutely does insult him, just in a subtle polite way.
I NEVER get tired of Richard Dawkins!
I'm a Christian, and I appreciate his honesty, and know he is extremely intelligent.
but he gives energy to think differently😇
In my experience , no one ever gets tired of their God.
@@farabd2343 no Richard isn't imaginary or pathetic like God.
@@harsewaksingh3829 right, whatever you say
I completely agree with everything Dawkins says here.
MrHappyBollox Oh stick it!
ChainsawVsGod Me too!
+ChainsawVsGod *tips fedora *
Been Affleck USED to be one of my favorite actors. I don't generally judge an actor by their off screen actions...after all, they are citizens who have a right to their political opinions. But to go on Bill Maher's show, honking on at Sam Harris who has made a life's study of Islam and it's manifold, horrendous attitudes toward women, gays, non-muslims, etc, blathering from the viewpoint of practically NO knowledge of the subjects being addressed, all Mr. Affleck managed to do was make it quite clear that all he is is another pretty Hollywood face, with a self-promoting agenda and a body worthy of the Batsuit.
Because you're a mug.
Well said sir. And thank you for your fight through the years
" but i understand he's batman " this is hilarious 😂😂
Richard Dawkins is always a breathe of fresh air.
Richard Dawkins is most definitely a *_breath_* of fresh air. And it is quite possible for Richard Dawkins to *_breathe_* fresh air --- though at the time he would likely be very far from London (or any other major city for that matter).
It's no misconception at all. It's a deliberate ploy to silence the critics of Islam.
Fuck Islam.
Why? Must be the Wahhabi Saudis donating more oil cash to shut up the freethinking Kafirs!
@@shrimpgripper buddhism is built on spirituality..
They used to call anyone who was critical of Islam, a racist. When you point out that anyone can be Muslim, and that it has nothing to do with race, they invented the term "islamophobic". But when you again point that you derived your opinion of it from observation, education and knowledge - and not from prejudice - then they just call you a hater.
The silent majority Christians are cool by the way
Richard Dawkins is a classy gentleman!!! May his tribe increase!!!!!!!!
Some actors such as Ben Affleck believe that if they can impersonate someone in a movie, they can also simply internalize their other abilities. Playing a scientist does not make you brilliant.
I hope he's not that naive to jump out of a window because he thinks that he can fly like batman. But one never knows
Batman can't fly, you silly person.
@@JeffWells-cw2sw You're correct. I'm a grown up and don't really watch Marvel movies. You must be the smart ass of 5th grade
@@JeffWells-cw2sw And Ben Affleck can't act.
"I understand he (Affleck) is Batman". Never has one sentence been so dismissive. Brilliant.
Indeed islam is not a race
You can criticize any book or any religion if it contains nonsense like islam
Dawkins is always there to stand up against bullshit
what you mean he sounded like shit he said the stuff that needed to be said
why do you care about how he looked and sounded
then go lick other gods asses
you're just fucking weird buddhist
ok
2:11 What Richard is describing is the “racism of low expectations” which is often thrown around by so-called anti-racist people nowadays. If you criticise a non-Western culture or religion, you get told you can’t do that and that you’re being a racist, whereas those same people would rail against you if you were to do anything that people from those cultures do. They are clearly against it but simultaneously justify it in the case of non-Westerners as if nationality or race determines morality. The idea that morality changes depending on race or nationality is called racism.
Strangely enough I haven't heard much about Ben Aflic since his poorly thought out rant.
obvsly, it's been more than 4 yrs LMAO and the next movie has still yet to come out. Besides rn we have the virus to worry about.
@@noblechubaka8296 Ben Affleck makes movies that make a lot of money. In the mass media head office that makes him the gold standard of . . . uHH . . . gold? What was the question?
He called them racists hoping they would shut up, but good on them for saying that its definitely not racist. The racism card gets used falsely wayyy too much.
it's overplayed and tired already just a lazy ass response
Dawkins is a breath of fresh logical air
I laughed so hard when that video came out of that guy spotting a book with the title "Acting for Dummies" in the back of Ben Affleck's convertable. Affleck even gets in the driver seat and drives away proving it was his car!! Hahaha!
None of us has Ever thought Ben Affleck was smart.
@@evorider3689 Exactly.
Oh Dear! an actor trying to be intelligent versus a science heavyweight! Suggest Affleck goes back to gerbling and T bagging with his Hollywood chums. 😂
That is not the issue. Ben successfully painted Sam as a racist and bigot to millions of people who don't know anything about him. People eat it up if celebrities say something. Ben didn't understand Sam's stance on Islam at all, he barely scratched the surface but he wanted that white knight oh-look-I-am-against-bigots glory, which I am sure he did (to a significant number of people).
Kuenga Norbu ...He may have tried to paint Sam as a racist & a bigot to millions of people, but he didn't do it successfully. The vast majority of people could see through Ben Aflecks insincerity & lack of any real understanding of the subject. I thought Afleck took a cheap shot at Sam Harris in order to promote himself as the "Good guy", but in actual fact, he took the easy, cowardly way by not speaking the truth about the insanity of Islam.
Stick to other peoples' scripts, Ben, otherwise you'll just make a bigger prick of yourself than you are doing.
begs? Is that your interpretation of asking? @blake bishop
@blake bishop Yeah, it's like he's circulating a fucking collection plate or something!!
It's funny how Dawkins is called a misogynist by feminists, but then when he attacks Islam for misogyny feminists defend Islam and call him a racist. Around we go the crazy-go-round!
+Edbrad The people who call Dawkins misogynist are the same kind of people would would call Bernie Sanders a communist, Bill Gates a peasant and Hitler a decent human being.
+Edbrad What should we call him for suggesting that Down's babies be aborted? A cunt would suffice. Fuck him. Champion of elitist snobby cuts.
+Nautilus1972
[citation needed]
+Nautilus1972 If that's something he said, I'm sure you warped it and took it out of context. Furthermore, if he said something like that, I'm sure he didn't advocate the abortion of babies, rather the abortion of fetuses, which are not yet babies. Though your likely Christian attribute might disagree.
Nautilus1972 Even if he said that and even if he meant it the way you imply he meant it, it still wouldn't make him a misogynist. I'll defend Hitler and Bin Laden if they're being accused of nonsense, not because I care about them, but because it cheapens true accusations. And at that point you might as well make up whatever you like and none of it really matters.
I agree. The soft bigotry of low standards is the biggest problem in this situation.
I think there's a similar situation with how white American liberals view the black community.
_"THE Ben Afflek..."_ *Savagery 101.* 💀🤣
Ben should just be quiet and go back to the children's table.
😂😂😂
tinwoods no excuse for bad trolling. It’s just the sign of poor parenting.
Bonaparte called it right 200 years ago when he said " Men created religion. God didn't."
+mediastarguest:
napolean Bonaparte said that?
I don't know if it is true or not, but all religions and all gods are man made.
Nope, I do not have any proof. I wasn't there 10,000 years ago with my video camera. Even if I was, all we would see if some guy going to sleep and waking up saying "Hey, the gods spoke to me". There is no way for me to prove that what he said is untrue.
I will admit a schism in my thinking. Ultimately I'll probably never fall in with any organised religion. At the same time I don't buy "there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim". From what I can see plenty of Muslims hate that the crazies hijacked their faith. So far I've let these conflicting thoughts hang inside me.
@@doyoumind9356 they didnt highjack it.. they did what islam preaches. Moderate muslims only take the moderate verses. Thats all.
@@rairadio7119 So there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim ? Good. It's about how the book is interpreted, isn't it. I keep being told I HAVE to read the book to venture a view. Is it a call to arms ? Not for all Muslims.
God didn't create man in his own image. More like the opposite.
Although I agree with everything Dawkins is saying I can't stop wondering if he would say the same thing (or anything, as a matter of fact ) about Jews and their claim that they are a race, branding everyone who dare to criticize Judaism as " anti-Semitic ". What would be he's thoughts on that?
I really like Sam and Richard. What they have been doing to the society for so long is immensely valuable.
So Islamic countries have literally placed women as a whole into a second class citizen status under shariah law, and have laws which complete forbid homosexuality and in some case even the right to practice other faiths, but it's considered racist or bigoted to condemn Islam which is the sole premise of shariah law.
I condemn Islam not Muslims. Ideas not people. I do so because I have a great deal of sympathy for the people who suffer under the oppressive ideals which dominate the culture they were born into, and Im pretty sure Sam Harris has articulated the same stance many times and would of done the same with Ben if he had been give the chance to speak in a civil manner.
Ideas are not people, they do not posses a race, and if being intolerant of idea is considered bigotry then it's bigotry to be intolerant of bigotry, or to hold any moral standard above any other. I for one have no problem saying the moral stands of the Mid-east bare a staggering deficiency when compared to the west and that main source of this which is Islam.
Just do yourself a favor and stop. Fucking stop. You're way too stupid for this. Just take your hands off the keyboard and take a walk. Get some fresh air.
Travis Schpeltinger
How about you actaully say something bitch.
+Travis Schpeltinger Idiot.
Islam would be just as harmful; as all of the other religions which people no longer worship are now if it wasn't for the people who espouse it.
Totally agree
An actor doesn't really know much about religion or politics whoop de doo.
Cultural Marxist
That's a silly generalisation. Just because Ben Affleck is a dimwit does not mean all actors are.
Probably not much more than you.
@blake bishop how so
“I ask all panel members please refrain from forced laughter kindly, thank you.”
-Richard Dawkins’ thoughts mid-sentence
RICHARD DAWKINS IS SO RATIONAL, REASONABLE, OBJECTIVE, SCIENTIFIC, FREE FROM IRRATIONAL AND HARMFUL VALUES OF RELIGION AND CULTURE.
I think your caps lock is stuck.
Dawkins is on point as ever.
Dawkins is a bad guy.
@Doktor Hachi Roku Are you kidding? He's a member of the academic elite, which is not to be confused with the intellectual elite.
@Doktor Hachi Roku He's a big phony. He's full of shit. I can't make it any clearer than that.
@@charlesnwarren you really are a moron bud. Got any evidence for your ridiculous claims?
Ben Affleck isn't an idiot. It just seems that way because he talks.
@Underground906 100% idiot.
Prof Dawkins is the most well spoken Kenyan that i know of!
I'd love to hear Afleck's response to this
Ben was only stating that, Sam was over generalising people by associating Islam with extremists... I love Dawkins, but he has taken Ben out of context completely
mr147eire Ben accused Sam And Bill Maher of being "Gross and Racist" for criticizing Islam, that is what Richard Dawkins is responding to..
***** There is no "liberal islam" or "liberal christianity" nor any liberal abrahamic religion. After you try to change the values and doctrines of some religion it stops being the same religion it has been.
mr147eire 70% of British muslims said that death was an appropriate response for drawing mohammed.... thats a statistic and it can't be overgeneralised. Thats a real statistic. I honestly thought that Afleck seemed like an asshole who didn't know what he was talking about.
***** Its pretty much like Nietzsche said: "the christian died on the cross."
mr147eire except Sam did NOT over-generalize Muslims.
Go watch the video again. Sam PRESENTED STATISTICS to Ben. Sam, for example, said "~80% of Muslims are ok, it is the ~20% who want to impose jihadist ideologies on rest of the world" (not exact quote, but u can find it in the interview).
Thank the universe for people like Harris and Dawkins
Blessed be their names.
Don't thank universe, thank us. We created you.
So now you making their authority in to a religion? I guess that's how it works for you sheep who can't think for yourselves
@@Adrian-yf1zg Speak for yourself, Dumbass.
@Matt Lyle hey i came up with the
"Religtard" insult...i did though i made it up 2 years ago....unless we both somehow got the same idea...?
Dawkins is spreading a light in the dark.
of course Ben had a film coming out that same week - (not that he spoke out in order to get a lot of extra publicity, of curse not)
Thank you for the very reasonable and honest perception on Affleck. Sam is fortunate to have friends like yourself
lol
Oh did I forget to mention his neuroscience is his PhD. He has a philosophy degree also.
male person Affleck has Batman is more important to people then Sam. I love both, but it's true
male person and Ben has won Oscars
If he is a neuroscientist then why does he not contribute in his field of "expertise" Why is so obsessed with religion particularly islam . Its because he is paid to do so . The neuroscience bit is window dressing to make him look academic. His so called bestsellers has nothing new to offer this world. He writes the books which are heavily sales pitched in the media and i am quite sure this bestseller tag is all nonsense . Its funny how all these islamophobes produce bestsellers and appear in time magazine . Amazing when better books by better authours dont make the best seller list . Its all rigged to fit in with the agenda . sam Harris and his buddy dawkins have contributed zilch to the advancement of humanity simply regurgitating other peoples hard work . sam
haroon hussein
You haven't really put up an argument. The bestselling portion isn't a lie, they're both genuinely successful authors. Both have contributed to their scientific fields, but find religion and islam, especially, dangerous.
As far as contributing to humanity, they've done a lot to advance arguments against stupid iron-age myths.
Here in Feb-2022, the producers of "The View" would like a word with you, Mr. Dawkins.
Sam Harris *Criticizes Islam*
Ben Affleck: NOW TELL ME, DO YOU BLEED?
Fuck off
'Ben Affleck, who I understand is Batman'
LOL
well the Ben guy is just an actor. Sam Harris has a PhD in neuroscience.
The educational background is irrelevant here. Sadly, there are plenty of academics who would take Ben Affleck's position, too. On the other hand, there are many people with little education who can apply simple logic very well and observe what they see with an open mind.
It's the amount of letting oneself fall into an ideological mindset and not doing their own research that makes people stupid.
thats ben stiller dumbo
@@godbyelebenohnegott 🤣
I’d be wary of equating education with intelligence, although in this instance it is true that Ben Affleck barely has two brain cells to rub together compared to Sam Harris.
@Shine Dal garno Bollocks. Just because he isn't religious doesnt mean he has a bad or questionable character. Youve complained about whats been said about affleck and instantly contradicted yourself by slandering harris' character. Grow up.
Right on, Professor! I met both you, Sam Harris, Lawrence Krauss, Neil Tyson and many others at Beyond Belief in 2006 and loved every second of it for the level of discourse so rare on the outside these days, and have followed (and recommended) all of you to many people over the years - Hitch included though he wasn't at this event.
Bravo, Richard Dawkins :) Yes, some people think that slapping the "That's Racist!" card down on the table acts like a comprehensive denouncement and instant shut-down of the other person's argument, granting an automatic win. Sucks for Affleck that the "That's Racist!" card isn't a valid play in mature debates.
I love listening to Richard Dawkins such a brilliant man. I was embarrassed FOR Ben Affleck, it was painful to listen to.
Greg Egan I was more embarrassed for the virtue signaling idiots who cheered for him as if he said anything intelligent or true.
I was a little surprised to discover that, in the interview Dawkins referenced, Sam Harris claimed that “Islam is, at the moment, the mother lode of bad ideas”.
That’s a pretty big call.
Dawkins nailed it, so far that is the best response to BEN Affleck ever heard!
I love it when celebrities marinate in performative woke-ism and then try to use it against genuinely intelligent people like Dawkins.
Some movie stars and singers get their heads stuck up their arses when they become famous. I am reminded of Sting and his rants about saving the World, and all the time jetting around to do concerts etc.
.. "Ben Affleck, whom I didn't know but I understand his Batman.."
Love it!
converting
to Islam is like chickens converting to kfc
You can have this kind of clue in this world. But I am afraid you will have that clue against yourself in Hearafter.
tandarts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌
Love it
😂😂😂😂
@Mr Ryan No it's the funniest comment I've seen on RUclips
I enoyed a couple of films he was in. That's it! There are Actors out there such as Matt Damon who can hold their own in a discussion. Afflick should remember that it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt!
Me : Thinks of DAREDEVIL 🤔
*LATER SEES THIS VIDEO *
Me again : He's actually BLIND when it comes to 'LOGIC'!! 😄😄
U never disappoint Dawkins
I can listen to Richard talk all day! So calm and soothing! Brilliant man!
What I got from this was... *Richard Dawkins is Batman!*
Holy crap! I can’t believe someone criticized misogyny in a patriarchal religion!
I really like Richard Dawkins and his ideas. He makes so much practical common sense. I mean, stuff about life that should be soooo obvious to even the least educated man. But Richard is so proper and always serious about whatever subject is being discussed. I have never seen Richard being playful or silly, just for the hell of having fun. Even when he's joking, he comes across as though he's teaching you something.
That's called being patronizing.
@@richsackett3423 Not by any definition it isn't.
'Whom I didn't know but I understand he's batman'. LOL! Oh, Richard, you shady bitch.
Honestly its been hard to take Ben Affleck seriously in any role since I saw him on Bill Maher, I have a hard time disassociating his character from the buffoon he is in real life. I guess thats why actors normally just stick to acting.
I like Richard. A truth teller. A knowledge to embrace in this society where the majority of people following religious beliefs are devilishly ignorant to facts . They replace knowledge by blind acceptance of questionable norms their beliefs instill in them.
The only time Ive seen Ben Affleck was on Family Guy when he just farted at Matt Damon.
Ben aflack's face is so annoying.
Ben Afflect proves that you don't have to be smart to be an actor.
Absolutely right! Another example is Tom Cruise who is bielives in scientology, John Travolta as well! I have zero respect for these idiots!
Or talented
Christian Bale is Batman. Ben Affleck is the husband in Gone Girl.
Wtf this isn't in HD? It doesn't look 720pi
6 months and I have finally been caught... Damn you Ryan.
Keyboard Warrior LoL, Dawkins is hard to find in HD but not as hard as god! lol
isn't 720 the lowest hd.... it would be 480 if it wasn't hd
720 private investigator?
it's rendered in 720p but its a recording from another video or from tv . so it can never be true 720 p , only rendered 720p... but at least its not 480 . don't go crying now :)
Alfred is criticizing Bruce Wayne?
What makes people think actors know anything about the world politic.
Ben Affleck was just acting the role of somebody who defends Islam, but he acted so well that everybody got convinced... now that's what I call a talent
Richard Dawkins, my hero forever
Dawkins, I could listen to you forever!
Now they call judging other cultures morals "euro-centrism" and pretend that invalidates any of your criticisms.
Poor Ben if he had two brain cells he would be dangerous, but his rant only proved how afraid these actors are so they appear virtuous in case the sport light on cancellation falls upon them