THIS is How You Play JUNO
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Let me think about it, hmm, it's gotta be DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE
Nope and yea. She doesn't do great dmg but that isn't going to stop him from dmg dmg dmg
never forget shes a support
she hasn't got the damage to kill stuff on her own but she definitely is distracting and annoying so dpsing as her can be useful
@@valentinafuffa535you sure? I could kill on my own so idk what you are talking about
Love this comment 🤣
I love how shes not a braindead character. Shes not carried by immortal abilities or bot healing strats. She requires effort
no bud she is a brain rot character
Theyve moved away from the dumbass moira auto aim training wheels design for a while now.
@@piusdoe8984 good choice, they need to add more characters that require effort.
@@piusdoe8984no? Mauga? Venture?
@@piusdoe8984 Illari's auto aiming healing pylon says what?
I've learned juno is easy to headshot as widow because of her glass looking helmet is so easy to see even from far away
Yea juno is really easy to bully with widow, hanzo, and ash
@@ao8319 because long distance is the weakness of this character
I feel like a second support that speed boosts like her was kinda necessary. I feel like the games are more balanced out and not needing lucio necessarily for some speed, or Anna for hitscan healing
And, if u run Lucia and her, my god. Speaking from the Lucio side of thing, you feel fuckin unstoppable going mock 5 through the enemy backline 😂
@@noturdad101I feel like it’s gonna be nerfed soon tbh :(
“Not enough damage for me ://“ he said with the most damage in the lobby
SHe shoots pebbles, it's easy to get high dmg if what ypu're hitting isn't dying
Blizzard designed a hero solely to try and counter awkward damage philosophy 😂
Honestly I think that they need to just rework all support to be strong enough to output enough HP to qualify as a main healer rather than splitting the role between flex and main sup, but at the cost of doing the least damage out of the three roles which rn that’s kinda the case but then ya got heroes like bap or pre patch Kiri and illari ruining the mold
@vonex3397 what ur saying is they should change the role from support to healer alot of them seem overly strong but the main factor people forget is how important the support is they heal the team which makes them first target which means for balance they need to be able to somewhat fight back with damage but the main part is in the name of support people think this means support the team by healing when it just means support the team whether that be with healing damage body blocking or whatever else
Awkward cant use weaver either
@HirasSketches I mean life weaver can headshot and does a good amount of damage I'm sure awkward could he's just a boring character as tbf awkward has explained in the past
@@zacmills8752 they should be able to defend them selves but support heroes are supposed to be heal that is their primary objective and they should be one of the first pieces required to take out to win a team but most of the new support are constructed as a dps who in the right hands can blow through most of the dps and can heal a little or in burst or provide a little utility. The best example of this is sym who literally got moved to dps cause she didn’t heal and her kit was better suited for dps. All support should be less damaged based when trying to defend themselves and more escape or repositioning based, and I don’t mean reducing their damage to such a degree that it’s useless but some can def be tuned down. But my main point here is that every support should be able to solo heal the team cause the meta would shift in favor of healing your team rather than taking down the enemy yourself and with that much heals people playing the role are forced to do their job or they would lose by heal diff.
I think she really needs that headshot to make her gameplay a bit more rewarding.
It could cause her to become a little op though if people land em consistently
If the devs think it's broken maybe just reduced headshot danage on everyone like the tank passive.
@@kaisac. then other characters who need the crit dmg lose their value, sure they could individually tweak everyone but idk if blizzard would go that far with microadjustments
@@kaisac. yeah 1.5x instead of 2.0x like sojourn
@@WandererLee Right now, she does similar damage to baptiste but if bap could only body shot. Similar to baptiste, they are both kept in check by their harsh fall off damage. I don’t think that giving her that headshot damage would be OP. Also, they have been seen reducing soujourn’s multipler to 1.5x headshot instead of 2.0x, so I don’t see why not.
Bro when that junkrat hit you mid air that was hilarious. “Gotta be the best player on the planet” 😂😂 I was lol
😂😂
Dude’s doing advanced calculus in his head
She's extremely mobile, but doesn't do a lot of damage. So while she can take 1v1s and out maneuver and possesses insane harass potential, any situation involving enemy sustain and you're going to get outlasted.
Her ult, though... that seems like a massive middle finger in a team fight, lmao.
The lock on ability seems like trash atm. It needs faster lock on or more damage.
Yeah I agree, her burst cant out dps much healing. I think a big problem is that its a 12 round burst and most players only hit 50-60 dmg out of the 80 something it does while ppl are moving.
Cant say much abt the ult its kind of annoying to out dps the heals it gives.
I think the lock-on ability should just be a couple of bap nade type projectiles that you can shoot out and heal/deal damage with. Lock-on in general does not feel good to me.
Lock on speed seems fine but the projectile speed is slow. I think the speed of lock on gives room to react to it but the projectile should be a lot faster to compensate.
Yeah. Now that I think about it. The lack of headshots is super limiting on her damage. At least Ana who also can’t headshot has zero falloff. But it feels like this character should def do more damage if she’s not gonna be able to headshot AND needs to stay mid range to speed and damage boost people
- The flight feels really clunky to use, you're more stuck than anything else but the speed it gives feels good
- Her ult should move a little bit faster, not too much tho
- The homing missiles are meh to damage but okay to heal and way too slow
- Her weapon doesn't feel good to use for healing and damage
- Her ultimate effect is great
- The circle of speed is great too
- Her double jump is really useful znd the sounds it make is satisfying
I think people are highly underrating her mobility. Armored Core V was a departure from it's series where, instead of being able to fly as high as your energy capacity could take you, you were confined to wall jumps limiting the height you could attain. It's very similar in Juno's case. She has the ability to double jump up to her highest point and keep that height to move to where she needs to be. Obviously I don't know all the high grounds she can or can't reach with her raw jumps yet, but you essentially want to climb using her jumps and glide to keep the height and/or dive onto a target from above if you are committing. So using things like the payload to get on Kings Row high grounds (if she can't already reach the high grounds) or even things like cars or barrels is what you need to look for. It's almost like Moira's fade mobility but infinitely more controllable (Genji having wall climb on top of the double jump makes it not AS comparable when trying to reach certain heights since he obviously has 0 issues with that).
She doesn't seem very rewarding compared to other supports. Feels odd that her damage output is so low when Kiriko and Baptiste can have invincibility and cleansing abilities while also being able to pump out absurd damage.
Her mobility is nice but doesn't feel very special, it's just taken from Echo's kit. Lock-on just doesn't feel good. And her gun audio is so loud and annoying. Her ultimate doesn't seem that bad but it also doesn't feel that special when you compare it to Kitsune Rush and Bap Window.
It's almost like Kiri and Bap are horrible for the game's health.
Kiri is more op because of tiny tiny hitbox but mr baptise has man sized big hitbox not fair
@@supercool1005hitting shots is far easier on bap, kiris kunais are meh
@@herrvorragend3542 yes but survivability is OP
She is literally the definition of a support character. Excellent movement the healing is meh and you really cannot kill too many people with her. Still taking Bap over her.
This 💯
Skill issue
Its not that she is weak but other supp are just too broken(excepctions are ana,zen and mercy..)just like you said no reason to pick her when you can just play bap or kiri
@@CSGO-cz8kb I am not saying that she is weak I am saying that there are better characters to use. Zen has the most damage output he is not weak at all. Juno is basically the original Sombra of the support class.
@@CSGO-cz8kbwhat is this bronze take
To me it seems like she's meant to be a flanking support, exist outside of the team but fly in and out to help finish off elims or help someone out of position. Basically official version of reddit Lucio
As of right now thats sure how she feels like. I'm sure we'll be seeing Tracer/Sombra duo flanks with her in Pros.
So why would anyone pick her over something that can reliably do things by themselves?
Feels like she's too weak to be flanking right now. Her damage and healing are nothing special and her flying abilties are mediocre as well. Definitely needs a buff but she seems hella fun to play
Yeah well, if thats her job i would just pick kiriko, lucio or even moira, as they are way better at doing that job.
So kiriko ult with juno ult plus speed ring and zarya bubble all on soldier for max speed lol. That would be funny af
*initial D theme song intensities
I want see unranked to gm juno guide!!! I will waiting 😁
You and me both!
Jack of all trades master of none
trash of all trades worth of none
@@zoidjogayou must be Hella trash at the game😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And that's completely fine, you can tell she's a high skill hero with zero jail cards or busted cooldowns I:E Discord/Antinade.
It's not the size of the sword it's those who wield it.
...Is often times better than a master of one. We'll see her place in the meta soon
@marcusrobinson9639 Big emphasis on Often when you bring the rest of the quote into it
Right now Juno is not better than the heroes she could be played over
Well this was awkward...
Get out.
I knew Awkward was Pokimane. Overwatch skills were identical.
evil awkward be like: "heal heal heal"
Awkward at the first of the video: Juno is not very good. It feels like I’m not doing anything.
Eight minutes later: I’m killing everything and not dying. Maybe I was wrong.
The thing about Juno is is that yeah maybe you aren't rewarded with self healing or headshots but her absurd mobility gives you the reward of insane up-time. It's easier to kill kiri or bap than Juno cause she can just speed behind cover or to a health pack. Majority of the time she'll be the last to die in all team fights, if anything she'll probably speed back to spawn to regroup with her team rather than dying. The ability to die less causes the other team to have less ult charge as well.
I feel like they should slightly increase her heals
I hate the sound of junos gun, or maybe just that you have to hear it the whole game
Yea should be diff sounds for healing and doing dmg. Sounds like a plastic Walmart pack a punch
I keep turning around thinking someone is in back line but it's just Juno.
@@michaelcook6288 lmao yeah especially when the enemy juno is the type to take off angles it's very confusing
i also hate it
I love her ability to chase and be nuisance but against high damage comps it’s hard cause the burst healing just isn’t there
I guess you didn't try her enough, Torpedos have healing and dmg with a pretty good CD, you can sit behind (directly behind) your tank, heal him and shoot through ur tank doing damage on the enemy team cuz it pierces through so idk why everybody thinks she's bad 😂😂😂😂 seems like a iQ and skill issue
Still waiting an updated vid on how to play Juno. Because in Awkward we trust.
Bro is easily the best support player
With Juno you have to consider her model size. She is one of the hardest to hit characters in the game, plus the speed and double jump, I think she is the ultimate survivability character, which is actually super useful. If she had good damage too it’d be too much. Baptiste you could argue has damage and survivability, but I think Baptiste is waaay easier to kill than Juno as a Tracer main. Juno if she knows how to move and use the speed rings is very hard if not impossible to track down.
idk what ur on about. she is the easiest character to headshot in the game. like maybe if ur aiming at her body, but her head is genuinely bigger than her torso
I'm glad they added a support with a speed boost and pretty decent healing. Lucio is the man but every tank knows that he can't keep you alive, Juno can.
This character feels to balanced for overwatch
i feel like this one is one of the characters that suit you the most as support, because you can deal damage although it has low kill capacity, you create offangles and opportunities to exploit her potential to the most, while providing utility for the team with speed, damage and healing at the same time, maybe they should buff her right click speed or locking speed and make her shift more maneuverable vertically with another jump only while "flying" but overall i think you can do a lot with her
Hard agree that more movement speed abilities is gonna be bad for the game.
Awkward viewers watching this are like,"One complaint 2 complaints 3 complaints 4, how many more are we all in for?"
I love using her this season. I'm mostly a Mercy & Moira main, but now I main her too lmao
she’s an indirect pharah nerf
12:55 'killing tanks is out of the question. Literally killa the junker queen after fighting her for more than a century.
Her physics collision box is probably a pill shape, so its spherical below her, anything CLOSE to this spherical part will just cause her to slide upward... if you hit a wall ur hitting it with the cylindrical part of the collision box, so no going up. XD
What is the song playing during the first match? I KNOW that song but I can't place it...
Theyre all from smash bros melee i think
Not sure if this is true but I was messing around in the practice arena and it looks like Juno's bullets actually go through allies, so you can shoot allies in the back and if there are enemies in front of them your shots both heal ally and damage opponents. I'm sure it won't change how Awkward plays, but this does seem like this would make solo off-angle plays less valuable with Juno.
I think awkward is the only person that doesn’t like her
Well yea he likes support rlly being a dps but she is also quite clunky which is to be expected
Personally, I don't enjoy characters that are not consistent with changing the outcome of the match.
She seems like a middle ground healing / true support hero. Like a Lucio, with a bit better single target and offensive potential. But people who like to do get solo picks and punish bad positioning won’t enjoy her. She’s a lot like lifeweaver in that sense - but instead of all saves she semi offensive with ult and speed
The fall off is too much, healing and damage. Damage is fine as is
Genuine question. I’m doing a ton of damage as support. I’ve had so many games where I drop 13k damage with about 6-8k heals and all my teammates want to do is flame me for being useless. What am I doing wrong????
I don’t see anything you’re doing wrong especially if yours Support people forget that Support is not just a healer. We are here to make sure we close up the loose end whether it’s a kill or heal. 😊
Your numbers mean nothing. Review your own gameplay and look for obvious mistakes. Stop bragging in a yt comment section.
@@itz_Bitemeyou saw him post numbers and said he was doing nothing wrong. What if he did need to do more healing? What if his damage is useless damage? How many deaths, how long was the game. You and I know nothing, just because a support had high damage and was flamed doesn’t mean they weren’t in the wrong.
Its called good stats zero impact you can easily get high dmg by just shooting the tank and constantly doing meaningless poking and 6-8k heals is below average heals for a average comp game and is horrible healing if its 20+ minute game
@@asonofliberty3662 I didn’t say that they wasn’t or was I simply just said that it’s our role as support so before you try to get all high and mighty on somebody, please learn comprehension. You may not know nothing but I do so don’t put me in the same category as you.
Juno does not need a buff. She feels strong already
20:40 LOL 😂😭😭
Don’t know if someone else said this but you can shoot through your teammates to damage enemies. It does damage and heals at the same time
I had so much fun playing Juno, I hope they don't change her at all.
The hyper ring needs to give a jump boost just like it did in the trailer; she'd have more unique utility in comparison to lucio.
She needs a damage boost for sure
No she doesn’t😂
Hey you know there’s a role called “Damage” for people who want to do a lot of damage? 💀
@@SaltySalt69Weird I didn't know Baptiste got moved to the DPS role
@@kpkazan move him to damage, take away his invicibility, and everyone will be happy (shush i thought SO HARD about this 100%)
I'm really happy to see I'm not the only one who feels she hits / heals like a wet noodle and needs a little buff 😂 I think headshots and toning back the falloff damage would put her in a great spot though. And I still don't know that I'm a fan of her glide boost. Being locked into a plane just feels really clunky, but maybe I just need to get used to it I'm not sure...
I bet she will be played like a hard to kill, zoomING around the map character with good healling.
wow pokimane u changed so much since I last watched your content, really grew some balls
gaze into the iris
i think the design of this character is actually very good except for the speed warp; the utility is all fairly selfish like the glide and missiles, so nothing that would feel very unfun playing against, and moving in this game is always awesome, so the juno should be having fun too. it's not much damage, which probably should be improved a little bit through the m1 or the m2 (maybe make the m2 chargable while shooting m1 for more burst potential) but honestly if all supports were a little more in this power range i would appreciate it a lot.
now we're waiting for the "u2gm juno damage damage damage (150% winrate)" video
I feel like she should be able to headshot opponents, Maybe with a crit multiplier 1.2-1.5x
I love Juno as universe♡♡
Space Board theme is a nice touch
awkward might be the funniest youtuber after super
Being able to heal teammates across the map is pretty sick even with the falloff.
Except that you heal them but they still die because you healing is practically meaningless.
it's like 15 hps if you hit just half your shots at max falloff
Ana, kiri and bap can do it too and their heals much fatter.
Ana, bap and kiri can heal you across map without any fall out.
Can u tell us ur settings for the ones who wants to main her pls
Quote: "You have to offangle, otherwise you hit them with your heals." :D
Im pretty sure they buffed her overall damage output since this.
I agree with you. I don’t even think it’s a hot take just like how goats ruined overwatch one if they keep adding these speed characters it’s going to ruin the game again. Because then everybody’s gonna be forced to play a certain comp it’s like they didn’t learn anything from the first game
The truth is she's not supposed to win 1v1 vs Symmetra in close quarters combat. Maybe the ring should heal as well
i think ml7 pretty much nailed how to play her godly
using her right click for damage is kind of a bait. it does healing over time so using it like a brig pack is much better and just using ur pistol for damage is better. (its like 60 instant health with like 90 HOT vs 60 damage)
I dont get why so many negative comments about her, she was perfect and best design cant wait to play her again
She needs headshot damage or No healing fall off. Either one not both
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weird, watching these remembering when it happened during stream
well its a first hero without a get out of free jail card and it feels shes balanced i hope they dont change anything this is fine
I think what would be cool is your take on symmetra
I feel like is she had a little bit of a crit multiplier she’d be really good
Can u do a doomfist video if u haven’t already?
Of course Juno's low damage. The last support released could keep pace with Ana or Mei in DPS and everyone lost their minds because "SUPPORT SHOULD ONLY PASSIVELY HEAL ME SO I CAN MAKE MASSIVE 1v5 PLAYS OMG BROKEN NERF ILLARI!"
Theyve moved away from the dumbass moira auto aim training wheels design for a while now. Its good to see.
do u want a dps healer ??
I mean zen, bap are already dps healers so why not add more lol
In a matter of fact I do
@@tinymtf LMFAOOO
Yes
Yes
Video name-this is how you play juno
Awkward in the video-how do you play this hero?
Idk but I’ve had a lot of fun playing Juno in unranked at least, probably needs a little work though.
Didn't they say "a lot of vertical mobility " when they teased her at blizzcon?
Double jump, glide and speed ring ain't enough? 😂😂😂
@@herrvorragend3542 only a double jump isn't "a lot of vertical mobility" imo
@@gabri_777 so you completely dismiss the hovering? The speed ring which you can boost and jump through to gain more height? What u expected, rocket pots and a quadruple jump and more?
@@herrvorragend3542they said vertical mobility. Glide has zero vertical mobility and Hyper Ring has zero jump boosting properties. What they actually have is more horizontal movement
@@Megggazap so you telling me up and down ain't vertical🤣🤣🤣🤣 guess you slept in school
The feel on the character is horrible. Should add under 50% burst conditions to dmg and heal of her missiles while reducing the over 50% to balance it. That would make her way more enjoyable. The feel and the strategic impact would be at Ana's level.
Personally I'm happy they're introducing more speed. I think it's dumb that only Lucio really has speed. Like Sombra shouldn't be the only one who silences.
I agree that Sombra shouldn't be the only one, in fact, even one is too many, she shouldn't have it, and no one should have it.
Mario Party music so valid
Hey akward, I’ve been hard stuck gold FOR EVER just wanted to say I made it to plat with brig after your series 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Now Im always gonna be saying "lemme lock in" when I use her right click lmao
Her damage is not so good, but she heals as much as other good healers. At least in every single game playing her I always heal more than other supports, regardless of their pick.
" this is not current " , ok , second day , second one hour session ( i don't play more, i played really more before , but ... u will see by yourself ... ) W4HHB1 is the code .
A bot in my team .
run out of spawn , shooting 3 bullet ,waiting death , in while . sometimes , going straight to point . ending game as a tracer with 137 dps, flashpoint .
Looking forward to unranked to gm
6:16 it still feels like this lol
“God has his favourites” spoken like a true zionist
Why does it feel like her healing passive isnt there
They should buff her healing & damage to low health targets.
When’s the next unranked to gm????
They def need to buff her a little more. Nevertheless, she has some really cool and fun abilities.
The THANOS of supports
hell no, she isnt all that crazy. Her dmg is pitiful, id rather take bap for fighting. Her ult is cool tho
This character is mid and still not going to pick juno over a bap or ana.
Yeah the issue with making balanced supports is if you're not going to balance the overtuned supports theres no reason to play the new one over than the novelty
Then there’s the issue of balancing it for pro play. This is the exact kinda hero that is probably insane in pro play but terrible in uncoordinated pubs
Haven't watched yet... my guess? DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE.
After watching a bit a few things I've noticed: the damage fall off range seems to start at about 30 meters? That means your ideal positioning is a bit closer (especially since you can't take a duel yourself) and your movement abilities can be used to help bail you out. So you can take some risk with positioning closer to either get better damage/healing... the speed ring seems as if it would be just as useful to help someone back out as it does being used offensively.
I think since nothing is overpowered, besides moving around fast and being hard to hit, you still have the choice of damage or healing and certain situations you could get more value focusing on healing. For instance, 22:52 the enemy Juno used her ult but you didn't have yours... using the ring to back them out, while charging your lock on to hit as many of your allies as you can (to deal with any burst damage they take as they change positions) while backing out yourself, then using the decent single target healing if needed to get them out is the play to counter that. You don't have to take the engagement and you can move away from the slow moving ult/los it to negate most of its value.
If the lock on is going to be that slow for enemies it is situational... if they're just going to dodge it then getting burst healing on your team gives you more time to shoot the enemy with your gun. If you're in a spot you can hit lots of enemies, then that yields more value especially if you have time to follow it up with shots before you have to heal someone. Getting both is even more value since it gives you more time for damage while increasing your own damage output; securing a kill and/or saving a teammate who would otherwise die is the highest value... it all seems situational and risk vs reward.
The character feels more like a balance between helping your team make a play and stopping the enemy team from making a play, except when you have ult. Sure, damage is needed, but without being able to secure kills yourself most of the time making the right choice between using your abilities for offense or defense would yield the best overall value. EVERYTHING in her kit has both an offensive and defensive use. That is the flexibility and strength of the hero right now.
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Hot take I think Juno azz rn more buffs