Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review and great question 😀 we did film a piece on the driving but the video was already a bit long and the sound quality not great, so here goes 😀 We were driving fairly heavy with the fresh almost full (200kg) and there was easily enough in the 3.0l to go up hills without a struggle, compared to the Mercedes we took out last year though it wasn't as powerful, that was pulling away from the cars on hills! The automatic was super smooth, we could hardly notice the gear changes, the visibility and feeling of space from the cabin area was really nice, the only negative was the big coach mirrors did obscure traffic at certain angles when I was waiting to join a roundabout. Replacing them with camera's would be a great improvement. Turning and manoeuvring into the pitch was easy enough, the dual rear camera was very useful for this. The roads out from Knaresborough towards the club site aren't the widest but the Liner-for-two didn't feel too wide when driving. The ride was very good and should be as this one had had air-suspension on the back and upgraded on the front. Overall it was a real pleasure to drive 👍 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures thanks for that, we ordered one at the show as we loved the layout with large garage, never had Iveco before always been Fiat. Price still makes me nervous and guess it will until it arrives 🙈
WOW nice coach ! Modern & luxurious & well build & compact. Thank you both for taking us with you on your detailed tour. Great video editing, graphics & special effects ! I subscribed ! Cheers from Wash., DC
We love your review. It is the best we have seen so far! I fell in love with the Liner For Two last year and this September we ventured from Canada to Dusseldorf and the RV show to see it in the flesh. My wife walked in and right away she got into the lounge. "This is it...I am home". We then travelled south to Aulendorf and Carthago City to see whatever we could and chat about availability. A serious wait but we are now sourcing a used one while we wait for a new one or demo. We love your energy!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. We are very envious of your choice of Motorhome😀 we'll keep a look out for you on the road!! Hoping to go to Carthago City next year for a look around. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
You both are incredible! Thank you for sharing this video. I've just subscribed to your channel and am looking forward to more uploads featuring such amazing RVs.
It was great to meet up and chat😊 ...and we did have plenty time inside to appreciate the luxury😀 Have a great Christmas, see you in 2023, Andy & Michelle
Absolutely beautiful and I am sure the build quality is to a very high standard too. These big Motorhomes still come with the downside of being large and clumsy on the road. A towed car on a trailer is essential (and affordable at this level) and the personalisation of the van is limitless. It’s the ultimate dream 😃. Fantastic presentation and edit by you both. Well done guys 😃👍🏻🚐 Trev
Thanks Trev, yes... another mode of transport is needed with them. This one had semi air suspension and drove like a dream😀👍 Have a great Christmas...Andy&Michelle 🎄
Having owned two Carthago motorhomes the last being an Opus Liner class, this one is really the best yet. My only three complaints would be dimmable bedroom lights are a must. The mechanism for affording space in the garage needs a rethink as it’s really not good enough for a van in this class. Finally the lounge table needs to have fold down sides to reduce its size, to coffee table size and afford more moving space. What I’d love to know is the size of the leisure batteries and are they lithium. We’ve just updated our current van to a lithium battery with b2b charger ect and it’s brilliant, would never go back to lead acid. We also have hydraulic levelling jacks on our van, I’m surprised that’s not an option or maybe it is! on this van, either way I think For a van of this size and class it’s essential
Hi, yes the L42 did have 2 x lithium batteries, not sure if that was an add-on though. We asked about the hydraulic levelling jacks because we were surprised it didn't have the. We were told it was because on the Iveco they would have to be placed close to the suspension which the factory wouldn't do but it could be done as an after fit. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Came very close to exchanging our Chic C line A class for the Liner back in 2018. Was offered more for our van that what we paid for it two years earlier. Spent the whole weekend chewing it over at a price then of £145,000. Decided no, as we came to the decision that the Liner was just that too large for the way we travel and stop in non campsite locations. It is indeed a masterpiece of engineering and as you said very comfortable sitting inside. We also took the view that as we travel from Spring through to the Autumn throughout the EU ( Lucky us having EU state passports) in very warm climates the fantastic internal layout would not be used to full appreciation. Saying that would love to have the van after New Year as we are heading down to the Alps(so can we borrow the van) Good review especially as you have a Carthago to compare against.
Great to hear you enjoyed the review 😀 the liner-for-two was around that price when we first set eyes on it, the base price of this one is actually 167k, not sure what level of spec I was looking at back then. I know you would never buy without the extras plus this is the new generation model. We thought our Carthago was luxury and we do love our Katie but there was simply no comparison, this was off the scale luxury in comparison! The weekend we had it Knaresborough was cold, wet and windy, we really appreciated the comfort 😀 Yes it would be great to take it down the to the Alps 🥶 in January, have a good trip, cheers...Andy&Michelle
What an awesome review both, the graphic inserts were brilliant, at home on top of a mountain and doing pieces to camera. Looking forward to your next adventure’s.
when i saw the price tag i was all ready to be deeply critical of this vehicle but it is singularly impressive. clear quality products, very very well thought out and absolutely wreaks of quality. im impressed.
This motorhome is on a whole different level to ours but It was the quality of Carthago when we were looking to buy that sealed the deal on our choice, cheers...Andy&Michelle
We didn't buy one, out of our budget 😂 maybe a secondhand one in a few years time, I (Andy) got the seat for the footy, Michelle can have it when Love Island is on and I'm as far away from the TV as I can get!!🤣
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures 🤣🤣yeah i bet ... that's when you wish the tv wasn't quite so huge. great presentation and have subscribed. looking forward to viewing more.
Lovely lovely van, but too rich for our pockets at the moment. Great vlog though both, as always. Polished, professional, fun and informative. thanks, Tony and Julie.
What a great motorhome. The best I have seen so far with so many well thought out parts. You could add a bike rack on the back or tow a small trailer for the toys. Just subscribed.
Yes it would make a great full time van, and with the advantage over a house that your garden can have a view of anywhere in the UK and Europe! 😀 Cheers..Andy&Michelle
Great review of the Liner-for-two. We’ve had ours for over 3 years now and love travelling in it as much now as we did when we picked it up from the showroom at Camper UK all those years ago. As you say it is a luxury dream liner and we love it. P.S. we created a short video a couple of years ago of our full size ebike’s loading in our Liner-for-two garage...... after viewing that hopefully you’ll be able to give the Liner-for-two 10 out of 10 or more ! .... well done excellent review.
PS. we created a short video a couple of years ago of our full size ebike’s loading in our Liner-for-two garage...... after viewing that hopefully you’ll be able to give the Liner-for-two 10 out of 10 or more .... well done excellent review.
@@goneawayglamping4397 Sorry, we've no idea how that short response ended up on your comment, must have accidentally responded to the wrong one! Its great to hear how you are still loving the Liner-for-two after 3 years 😀 Good news about the bike, we'll add the link to the description of the video😀 Merry Christmas 😀🎄Andy & Michelle
She’d be perfect for my two ridgebacks, my ragdoll cat and most of my hunting crossbows and my fishing rods and nets and myself of course. The only thing I’d add and get rid of is the heated garage because I’d want to add a small freezer in the boot
Brilliant review both, beautiful van, ALOT OF money tho. Well when do you take delivery? Michelle really loves it and Andy had a big grin too 😄 😊 Carthago great quality 👌 we're more than happy with our new kontiki 884 awesome, bright and modern. Well again really good to see you both have fun and merry Christmas 🎅 too xxx
Thanks, glad you enjoyed our review😊 We couldn't help but smile when we were inside, it really was the most beautifully designed motorhome we've ever experienced😀Merry Christmas 🎄Andy&Michelle xxx
What a gorgeous van, the layout is perfect HOWEVER !!!! THE PRICE !!! lol, still as my wife Debz says, you only get what you pay for, and lets face it, if i had that kind of money i would pay that amount for one. Great review. Take care and Happy Christmas and New Year to you both
We have exactly the same thoughts as you, if we were spending that amount of money on a Motorhome that would be the one 😀 Have a great Christmas and fantastic New Year 🎅🎄 Cheers…Andy&Michelle
Great informative video I love your down to earth vlog and well presented. Glad you just ignore the negative comments sounds like keyboard warriors. I think if they are monitored for this sort of bad behaviour they should be struck off RUclips altogether. Your trip has certainly give me inspiration to do a trip similar next year.
Thanks Mick, glad you liked it. Thankfully we don't get too many negative comments, we don't mind genuine different points of view and yes, the rest we don't pay any attention to 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures haha that message was for another RUclipsr I think I’m watching too many videos and I have to say yours are definitely inspiring
Dream van! But and it is a big but.......this was approx £170K to £185K a couple of years back. amazing that all motorhomes from your basic to your luxury have managed to sustain a 30% increase! Still want one though 😂😂
Yeah that's the sort of price we remembered back then, but there are a lot of options and extras, the base price for this one is £167k Quite a lot of extras! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Comparing a 4-year-old e-line 50LE, When you are in the bed you can not put your pillow on the wall to rise your head and see the tv better (I guess that it does not have an electric bed adjustment). Also heating in the cabin below the bed is probably not so good, so in the winter could be a little cold in bed (probably not a big deal). This one has a smaller garage (a big deal for bikers) and a separate shower, which I consider a disadvantage. More space is they are together and you have a nice big hanging wardrobe on the other side. Back area is super cool but the connection of the USB key or HDMI on the tv could be a little problematic.
Hi, thanks for your thoughts on this 👍 You are right, there isn't an electric bed adjustment. We were away in cold weather and with the bed down over the cabin there were no cold issues, we noticed the cold come through when we lifted the bed so the insulation was working well. On our Carthago we have an integrated shower but it is a bit tight so we actually liked the separate shower. You are right though, you loose on wardrobe space. We use our HDMI and USB quite a lot so definitely something worth checking out next time we are in one😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Hi thanks for a great review. I did not see a freezer tho, does it have aircon, also what power source would the oven&fridge run off of. Must otherwise be the best motor home I have viewed, top class, thanks
Hi , glad you liked the review, yes, it has a freezer which is integrated with the fridge. It has gas and electric power sources, the fridge can be run off either as it has an inverter and 2 large Leisure Batteries which can be charged by the solar on the roof or hook-up on a campsite. It really does have everything! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great review but just think, for that money you could have a place in Torla and an everyday motorhome! Hope Michelle’s feeling better? Have a brilliant Christmas. Pete and Val
Torla certainly would be an amazing place to live, Michelle not quite better but on the mend so should be ok in a few days, have a great Christmas yourselves 😀🎄 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Good review guys, I think that for that sort of money I would want auto levelling, compressor fridge and not a single solar panel in sight to help power all those lights etc. way out of my price range so all academic anyway.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review 😀 Yes we were surprised no auto levelling and no solar which is pretty much a must, thats the first thing we'd have fitted if we were able to afford this amazing machine! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Yes edited with FCP, the 6 around the table was actually a really simple effect, the key was keep the camera really still and in one shot sit in all the places being careful not to move out of the left, centre and right thirds of the frame. Then overlay and crop into thirds😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great presentation, well-done guys, the bike storage solution would drive me nuts, all seems rather an afterthought., for that reason, its lost a vast two points from me 8 points only.
Thanks. Minor thing for me is the fridge and heating.... Why not a 12 volt compressor fridge, and why not a quality diesel heather, so you can stay more than two days off grid without worrying for gas....
Hi, we didn’t actually see a way to do it manually, our Carthago electronic bed does have a manual mode so probably does, our bed did go faulty but it was was just a fuse so we carry a spare now, sorry couldn’t be more specific about the L42, cheers…Andy&Michelle
We went to the NEC in October with the intention of buying a Liner for 2. We absolutely loved it from the kitchen to the rear lounge but weren’t very impressed from the kitchen door to the front of the van. We felt that the shower and toilet area was too small. We opted for the Chic C Line 5.9 XL LE as the mid ship dressing room was so much better than in the Liner for 2 in our opinion. We pick up the new van in September and can’t wait. Thanks for the review guys and happy and safe travels when you next hit the road. Irvine & Karen
Hi Irvine & Karen, compared to our C-Tourer Carthago we felt the bathroom area was huge but haven't see the Chic C Line 5.9 XL LE so will go and have a look😀. All these top end Carthago's are amazing machines with superb design, we'd be happy with any of them! 😀 It must be agonising waiting until September for your new motorhome, happy travels in the mean time 😀 we are off to Devon for the New Year🚐 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
I know there are different toilet solutions out there on the premium vans but we've not actually seen or know anything about those 🤔 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
An amazing van and very well reviewed. If I can take 2 eBikes and kayak in our Autoquest270 then you could definitely get them in that 👍 My one complaint with the review is that you didn't attempt to enter/exit the van via the floor locker. We need to know if that can be done! Oh, and it looked like the seating area cushions obscured a bit of the bottom ofvthe TV? Other than that pretty much perfect I reckon 🙂
Ha Ha, as spoken by a true caver, definitely missed a trick there, tight i think but could be done. Just had to go back and look at the video and see what you mean about the bottom of the TV, well spotted, we didn't notice that when we were watching the TV over the weekend - but now you've pointed it out!!!😂 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
We definitely would need to be sure we could get everything in, I was looking at the front storage thinking I could get the ski's and water sports kit in there 😀⛷🛶 ideally this length for ease of use but has to fit two ebikes without dismantling them 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures We have to dismantle our bikes so were thinking of building one of these to fit into the garage ruclips.net/video/ce_Jr-u6CbI/видео.html
Dream motorhome, seems like it just needs an extra handle under the seat in the garage to pull it back down . It would be nice to keep the length under 8m and not go for the bigger version
Yes you are right, that should sort the garage issue. You can claim that one when Carthago change the design on it 😀 This model at 7.85 didn't feel too big to drive but it only just fitted on the pitch at the club site. Those extra 20cm on the Long model could make all the difference. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
only one thing you have not said a lot about the driverspart has it got sat nav that is a inportant part because you are going to spend most of your time driving.
Loved the review, and thanks for showing us around Lionel at the Knaresborough site. He is truly a luxurious masterpiece, although the garage/seating bump/cushion thing seemed at odds with the rest of the thoughtful design. It really is a base camp that has everything. At over a quarter of a million pounds I think we’d want to live it it full time. Looking forward to seeing when you get yours…😜 ps hope your feeling better Michelle x
Thanks Simon and Carol, it was great to meet you at Knaresbourough and have a good chat, (and see Buz!) We could definitely very easily spend a lot of time in Lionel! 😀 Michelle not quite recovered yet 🤧 nurse Andy here doing his best👨🏼⚕️! Cheers...Andy&Michelle x
Thanks Ian, if we were in the market for that price range then it would be right up there in our buying choices, it was perfect for us apart from the garage so we'd need to see how our easily our ebikes went in, cheers...Andy&Michelle
We'd love to have one but this is beyond our means, we were back in Katie last weekend and it was difficult to image how a similar sized vehicle (35cm more) actually packed so much in over our model. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
That's a good question, it only had 300 miles on the clock so still running in but I think around 20mpg - don't quote me on that 😀 with the solar, inverter , 2 x gas and large tanks it would be possible to be self sufficient and off grid for quite a few days. A future option? never say never but not quite sure how we'd fund it! 🤣Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Sorry John, wouldn't have a clue what it costs to convert to US standards. We know someone who took their old van across to the US and it wasn't a big deal deal to sort it, Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Almost impossible to spec this with a useable payload. Ie fill up with water and fuel it’s pretty much illegal before you go anywhere with the weight of the main option packages. I looked at this and the e-line - that has the same problem on single axle. We ended up with a c tourer a class uprated to 4,500 kg to have something practical.
This model on the Iveco is 5800kg with a weight in running order of 4235kg we didn't take it on a weigh bridge, but i'd estimate somewhere in the region of 500kg for the extras (Super Package 100kg, Aircon 95kg, Awning 60kg and then 250kg for the smaller items, that still gives a payload of around 1000kg should be plenty even with a full garage and fresh water? Next time though we'll find a weigh bridge😀👍 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Ah - missed that they lent you the Iveco. I spec’d that exact model and (with autolevelling added, full fuel and water) got to a payload of 412kg (at a price of £242k). For shorter Fiat based model I got to a payload of 219kg on the same basis, and that only after paying for the upgrade of 300kg to 4,800kg (!). Beautiful vans (and we’re very happy with our C Tourer comfort which has about 700kg now its uprated to 4,500kg) but you really have to watch the weights as some of their models, even assuming their stated figures are correct, would be overweight as soon as you left the drive. It is especially telling that they have just added annoying pop up legal disclaimers to their website on this very topic. Great review btw and love your videos - we will keep an eye on what they do with the next generation Liner when we’re ready to change :).
Loverly motorhome but I agree with you I don’t like they way the bikes go in. Also the cost with extras are pushing the cost towards a Morelo and Concorde
The comparable cost with the Morelo and Concorde is something we discussed and concluded if we had the luxury of picking 🤣 we'd probably have a liner-for-two. We've had a boozy night in a Concorde before and while they are big and have a lot of status/presence they don't make as much effective use of the space and this would be easier to drive and park 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures We have an Concorde 791 RL ourselves, it has almost the same layout and dimensions, but with the bigger garage. We love it, especially the "3 rooms" layout and the round rear sitting area. Great VLOG BTW!!
@@wallplus7581 Glad you enjoyed the vlog 😀 We've just googled the Concorde 791 RL, wow , its beautiful. We didn't realise Concorde made these! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures yes, its the Carver we have! it's a little bit higher than the liner for2 but you have a complete underfloor, what is important if you want to live in it or stay for a longer while.
Yep that garage looked a total, palaver. I can not be doing with anything that is not straight forward as you just do not use it . Nice van other that that.
Our current model Carthago doesn’t have a drainer either but we use a collapsing one, guess it’s to make more work surface space but maybe there a design idea that could incorporate one 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Not sure if I would like to sit all the way at the back on a bouncy 12 hr trip to Barcelona! 🤮 Also the cushion obstructs the TV... Annoying when you're spending £ 260k !!! Two hundred and sixty thousand! TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND.... That's 100% of 9 years of the average UK salary !!!
For Russians - клип высокого уровня, каких у нас делать почти не умеют. К машине могут быть претензии, но классная реклама их убивает. Доколе мы будем унылыми голосами обозревать за 4 минуты автодом, заслуживающий минимум 7-8 мин. анализа (а то и все 15) - дотоле и покупки будут ерундовыми.
Unfortunately google didn't make a very good job of translating back to English so couldn't really understand your points but thanks for taking the time to comment 😀 cheers...Andy&Michelle
Hi Valerie, surprisingly to us, we have seen a lot of these on sites in Europe and also it's not just those with extremely deep pockets, we know people who have sold up there home to live full time in these big Motorhomes, it's not for us as we need the flexibility to drive and parkup anywhere, cheers...Andy&Michelle
Our Motorhome is 7.5m, which we find ok for park ups and sites but have to plan ahead when using town carparks and are limited when parking to do some of our hikes. Our buying choice was between the flexibility to go where a car can and the garage to hold the ebikes. There's not a perfect solution for us but most of the time its ok😀 Cheers..Andy&Michelle
Great review, would like to hear your comments on the drive, power, gearbox and ease of driving
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review and great question 😀 we did film a piece on the driving but the video was already a bit long and the sound quality not great, so here goes 😀 We were driving fairly heavy with the fresh almost full (200kg) and there was easily enough in the 3.0l to go up hills without a struggle, compared to the Mercedes we took out last year though it wasn't as powerful, that was pulling away from the cars on hills! The automatic was super smooth, we could hardly notice the gear changes, the visibility and feeling of space from the cabin area was really nice, the only negative was the big coach mirrors did obscure traffic at certain angles when I was waiting to join a roundabout. Replacing them with camera's would be a great improvement. Turning and manoeuvring into the pitch was easy enough, the dual rear camera was very useful for this. The roads out from Knaresborough towards the club site aren't the widest but the Liner-for-two didn't feel too wide when driving. The ride was very good and should be as this one had had air-suspension on the back and upgraded on the front. Overall it was a real pleasure to drive 👍 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures thanks for that, we ordered one at the show as we loved the layout with large garage, never had Iveco before always been Fiat. Price still makes me nervous and guess it will until it arrives 🙈
Its the best layout we've ever seen, the use of space is so clever, its only 35cm longer than our Carthago but it feels twice as big. You'll love it😀
A beautiful motorhome, a good useful and honest review!🙂
Thank you, glad you found the review useful 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
WOW nice coach ! Modern & luxurious & well build & compact.
Thank you both for taking us with you on your detailed tour.
Great video editing, graphics & special effects !
I subscribed ! Cheers from Wash., DC
Thanks for Subscribing and hello Wash.,DC 😊 yes this was very well designed and a joy to live in 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
We love your review. It is the best we have seen so far! I fell in love with the Liner For Two last year and this September we ventured from Canada to Dusseldorf and the RV show to see it in the flesh. My wife walked in and right away she got into the lounge. "This is it...I am home". We then travelled south to Aulendorf and Carthago City to see whatever we could and chat about availability. A serious wait but we are now sourcing a used one while we wait for a new one or demo.
We love your energy!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. We are very envious of your choice of Motorhome😀 we'll keep a look out for you on the road!! Hoping to go to Carthago City next year for a look around. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
You both are incredible! Thank you for sharing this video. I've just subscribed to your channel and am looking forward to more uploads featuring such amazing RVs.
Thanks 😀 glad you enjoyed and thanks for subscribing…Andy&Michelle
Another great review, I’m amazed you could manage to leave such luxury to meet up with us in Costa, but glad you did. Have a great Christmas.
It was great to meet up and chat😊 ...and we did have plenty time inside to appreciate the luxury😀 Have a great Christmas, see you in 2023, Andy & Michelle
Love the layout, floor plan, design … beautiful!!!
Yes we loved the layout 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Very smart, great review guys. Very clever effects too 😎👍🏻
Thanks 😊 glad you enjoyed it😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Absolutely beautiful and I am sure the build quality is to a very high standard too. These big Motorhomes still come with the downside of being large and clumsy on the road. A towed car on a trailer is essential (and affordable at this level) and the personalisation of the van is limitless. It’s the ultimate dream 😃. Fantastic presentation and edit by you both. Well done guys 😃👍🏻🚐 Trev
Thanks Trev, yes... another mode of transport is needed with them. This one had semi air suspension and drove like a dream😀👍 Have a great Christmas...Andy&Michelle 🎄
Having owned two Carthago motorhomes the last being an Opus Liner class, this one is really the best yet. My only three complaints would be dimmable bedroom lights are a must. The mechanism for affording space in the garage needs a rethink as it’s really not good enough for a van in this class. Finally the lounge table needs to have fold down sides to reduce its size, to coffee table size and afford more moving space. What I’d love to know is the size of the leisure batteries and are they lithium. We’ve just updated our current van to a lithium battery with b2b charger ect and it’s brilliant, would never go back to lead acid. We also have hydraulic levelling jacks on our van, I’m surprised that’s not an option or maybe it is! on this van, either way I think For a van of this size and class it’s essential
Hi, yes the L42 did have 2 x lithium batteries, not sure if that was an add-on though. We asked about the hydraulic levelling jacks because we were surprised it didn't have the. We were told it was because on the Iveco they would have to be placed close to the suspension which the factory wouldn't do but it could be done as an after fit. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Came very close to exchanging our Chic C line A class for the Liner back in 2018. Was offered more for our van that what we paid for it two years earlier. Spent the whole weekend chewing it over at a price then of £145,000. Decided no, as we came to the decision that the Liner was just that too large for the way we travel and stop in non campsite locations. It is indeed a masterpiece of engineering and as you said very comfortable sitting inside. We also took the view that as we travel from Spring through to the Autumn throughout the EU ( Lucky us having EU state passports) in very warm climates the fantastic internal layout would not be used to full appreciation. Saying that would love to have the van after New Year as we are heading down to the Alps(so can we borrow the van) Good review especially as you have a Carthago to compare against.
Great to hear you enjoyed the review 😀 the liner-for-two was around that price when we first set eyes on it, the base price of this one is actually 167k, not sure what level of spec I was looking at back then. I know you would never buy without the extras plus this is the new generation model. We thought our Carthago was luxury and we do love our Katie but there was simply no comparison, this was off the scale luxury in comparison! The weekend we had it Knaresborough was cold, wet and windy, we really appreciated the comfort 😀 Yes it would be great to take it down the to the Alps 🥶 in January, have a good trip, cheers...Andy&Michelle
What an awesome review both, the graphic inserts were brilliant, at home on top of a mountain and doing pieces to camera. Looking forward to your next adventure’s.
Thanks 😊 we really like your comment😊 it back now to editing the next video from Croatia😀 cheers...Andy&Michelle
Thank you. very informative. Such a lovely couple. 👍😊
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it😀 Andy&Michelle
when i saw the price tag i was all ready to be deeply critical of this vehicle but it is singularly impressive. clear quality products, very very well thought out and absolutely wreaks of quality. im impressed.
This motorhome is on a whole different level to ours but It was the quality of Carthago when we were looking to buy that sealed the deal on our choice, cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures didyou guys buy one??? btw totally love your presenting style ... so very personable. thank you.
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures btw who got the comfy seat to watch the footy?!😝
We didn't buy one, out of our budget 😂 maybe a secondhand one in a few years time, I (Andy) got the seat for the footy, Michelle can have it when Love Island is on and I'm as far away from the TV as I can get!!🤣
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures 🤣🤣yeah i bet ... that's when you wish the tv wasn't quite so huge. great presentation and have subscribed. looking forward to viewing more.
Lovely lovely van, but too rich for our pockets at the moment. Great vlog though both, as always. Polished, professional, fun and informative. thanks, Tony and Julie.
Thanks Tony & Julie, yes the van is out of our league too! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great review! Just to confirm your mountain biking question, you can get a 300cc Vespa AND 2 large mountain bikes into the “long” version 😃
Thanks John, glad you liked the review. We saw the long version at Carthago City earlier this year, what a garage it has, huge! 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
What a great motorhome. The best I have seen so far with so many well thought out parts. You could add a bike rack on the back or tow a small trailer for the toys. Just subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing 😀 yes a trailer would be a good option for the toys!😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Gorgeous rig. Price of decent 2/3 bed house in many parts of the UK, but still gorgeous. And no council tax if you live in it full time.
Yes it would make a great full time van, and with the advantage over a house that your garden can have a view of anywhere in the UK and Europe! 😀 Cheers..Andy&Michelle
Great review of the Liner-for-two. We’ve had ours for over 3 years now and love travelling in it as much now as we did when we picked it up from the showroom at Camper UK all those years ago. As you say it is a luxury dream liner and we love it. P.S. we created a short video a couple of years ago of our full size ebike’s loading in our Liner-for-two garage...... after viewing that hopefully you’ll be able to give the Liner-for-two 10 out of 10 or more ! .... well done excellent review.
Thanks 😊 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
PS. we created a short video a couple of years ago of our full size ebike’s loading in our Liner-for-two garage...... after viewing that hopefully you’ll be able to give the Liner-for-two 10 out of 10 or more .... well done excellent review.
@@goneawayglamping4397 Sorry, we've no idea how that short response ended up on your comment, must have accidentally responded to the wrong one! Its great to hear how you are still loving the Liner-for-two after 3 years 😀 Good news about the bike, we'll add the link to the description of the video😀 Merry Christmas 😀🎄Andy & Michelle
We really enjoy watching and following your adventures, keep up the excellent videos. Ray & Maria
She’d be perfect for my two ridgebacks, my ragdoll cat and most of my hunting crossbows and my fishing rods and nets and myself of course. The only thing I’d add and get rid of is the heated garage because I’d want to add a small freezer in the boot
Looks like you've practically moved in!! 😀 cheers...Andy&Michelle
Excellent, very comfortable.
yes, very luxurious 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
My dream car...🤩🤩🤩
Ours too!!! 😀
Brilliant review both, beautiful van, ALOT OF money tho.
Well when do you take delivery? Michelle really loves it and Andy had a big grin too 😄 😊
Carthago great quality 👌 we're more than happy with our new kontiki 884 awesome, bright and modern.
Well again really good to see you both have fun and merry Christmas 🎅 too xxx
Thanks, glad you enjoyed our review😊 We couldn't help but smile when we were inside, it really was the most beautifully designed motorhome we've ever experienced😀Merry Christmas 🎄Andy&Michelle xxx
What a gorgeous van, the layout is perfect HOWEVER !!!! THE PRICE !!! lol, still as my wife Debz says, you only get what you pay for, and lets face it, if i had that kind of money i would pay that amount for one. Great review. Take care and Happy Christmas and New Year to you both
We have exactly the same thoughts as you, if we were spending that amount of money on a Motorhome that would be the one 😀 Have a great Christmas and fantastic New Year 🎅🎄 Cheers…Andy&Michelle
Great informative video I love your down to earth vlog and well presented. Glad you just ignore the negative comments sounds like keyboard warriors. I think if they are monitored for this sort of bad behaviour they should be struck off RUclips altogether. Your trip has certainly give me inspiration to do a trip similar next year.
Thanks Mick, glad you liked it. Thankfully we don't get too many negative comments, we don't mind genuine different points of view and yes, the rest we don't pay any attention to 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures haha that message was for another RUclipsr I think I’m watching too many videos and I have to say yours are definitely inspiring
lol… I was thinking we don’t get many keyboard warriors and wondered what you’d been watching of ours 🤣
Dream van! But and it is a big but.......this was approx £170K to £185K a couple of years back. amazing that all motorhomes from your basic to your luxury have managed to sustain a 30% increase! Still want one though 😂😂
Yeah that's the sort of price we remembered back then, but there are a lot of options and extras, the base price for this one is £167k Quite a lot of extras! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
What a fantastic motor home
Sure is, we loved it! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Comparing a 4-year-old e-line 50LE, When you are in the bed you can not put your pillow on the wall to rise your head and see the tv better (I guess that it does not have an electric bed adjustment). Also heating in the cabin below the bed is probably not so good, so in the winter could be a little cold in bed (probably not a big deal). This one has a smaller garage (a big deal for bikers) and a separate shower, which I consider a disadvantage. More space is they are together and you have a nice big hanging wardrobe on the other side. Back area is super cool but the connection of the USB key or HDMI on the tv could be a little problematic.
Hi, thanks for your thoughts on this 👍 You are right, there isn't an electric bed adjustment. We were away in cold weather and with the bed down over the cabin there were no cold issues, we noticed the cold come through when we lifted the bed so the insulation was working well. On our Carthago we have an integrated shower but it is a bit tight so we actually liked the separate shower. You are right though, you loose on wardrobe space. We use our HDMI and USB quite a lot so definitely something worth checking out next time we are in one😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Superb Motorhome but out of my price range, but great to have the insight into how it earns 9/10 and 10/10👍
Glad you enjoyed it, out of our range as well but it was great to experience it. even if just for a few days😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Hi thanks for a great review. I did not see a freezer tho, does it have aircon, also what power source would the oven&fridge run off of. Must otherwise be the best motor home I have viewed, top class, thanks
Hi , glad you liked the review, yes, it has a freezer which is integrated with the fridge. It has gas and electric power sources, the fridge can be run off either as it has an inverter and 2 large Leisure Batteries which can be charged by the solar on the roof or hook-up on a campsite. It really does have everything! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great review but just think, for that money you could have a place in Torla and an everyday motorhome! Hope Michelle’s feeling better? Have a brilliant Christmas. Pete and Val
Torla certainly would be an amazing place to live, Michelle not quite better but on the mend so should be ok in a few days, have a great Christmas yourselves 😀🎄 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
best mo home on market now for two !!!!!
We think so 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Stunning.
It really was! 😀 cheers...Andy&Michelle
And you thought the RP was an expensive bit of kit. Nice but I'd be scared to scratch it..🤣 It looks like you had fun though. 👍
Yes this Motorhome took it to another level, we had and amazing time in it thank you, Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great review 🚐
Thanks Tony 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Good review guys, I think that for that sort of money I would want auto levelling, compressor fridge and not a single solar panel in sight to help power all those lights etc. way out of my price range so all academic anyway.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review 😀 Yes we were surprised no auto levelling and no solar which is pretty much a must, thats the first thing we'd have fitted if we were able to afford this amazing machine! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Nice millionaires van 😗 Great for the kids & dogs 😂 Clever editing with 6 around the table. Final Cut Pro??
Yes edited with FCP, the 6 around the table was actually a really simple effect, the key was keep the camera really still and in one shot sit in all the places being careful not to move out of the left, centre and right thirds of the frame. Then overlay and crop into thirds😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great presentation, well-done guys, the bike storage solution would drive me nuts, all seems rather an afterthought., for that reason, its lost a vast two points from me 8 points only.
Yeah that is definitely the weak point in an otherwise beautiful Motorhome, cheers…Andy&Michelle
Thanks. Minor thing for me is the fridge and heating.... Why not a 12 volt compressor fridge, and why not a quality diesel heather, so you can stay more than two days off grid without worrying for gas....
It’s a good point, we borrowed a Malibu earlier in the year and that had a diesel heater so looks like it is an option, cheers…Andy&Michelle
We only have one question; if the motor for the bed goes awry can it be operated manually? It is about all that concerns me. Love it...
but $$$!
Hi, we didn’t actually see a way to do it manually, our Carthago electronic bed does have a manual mode so probably does, our bed did go faulty but it was was just a fuse so we carry a spare now, sorry couldn’t be more specific about the L42, cheers…Andy&Michelle
We went to the NEC in October with the intention of buying a Liner for 2. We absolutely loved it from the kitchen to the rear lounge but weren’t very impressed from the kitchen door to the front of the van. We felt that the shower and toilet area was too small. We opted for the Chic C Line 5.9 XL LE as the mid ship dressing room was so much better than in the Liner for 2 in our opinion. We pick up the new van in September and can’t wait. Thanks for the review guys and happy and safe travels when you next hit the road. Irvine & Karen
Hi Irvine & Karen, compared to our C-Tourer Carthago we felt the bathroom area was huge but haven't see the Chic C Line 5.9 XL LE so will go and have a look😀. All these top end Carthago's are amazing machines with superb design, we'd be happy with any of them! 😀 It must be agonising waiting until September for your new motorhome, happy travels in the mean time 😀 we are off to Devon for the New Year🚐 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures Cheers guys we can't wait. Your Carthago is beautiful also. Enjoy Devon.
Beautiful rig,. . . . with a cassette toilet.
I know there are different toilet solutions out there on the premium vans but we've not actually seen or know anything about those 🤔 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Beautiful ❤️😍
We agree 😀 Cheers…Andy&Michelle
Two way fridge is cool
Yes, very handy😀 clever design!
An amazing van and very well reviewed. If I can take 2 eBikes and kayak in our Autoquest270 then you could definitely get them in that 👍
My one complaint with the review is that you didn't attempt to enter/exit the van via the floor locker. We need to know if that can be done!
Oh, and it looked like the seating area cushions obscured a bit of the bottom ofvthe TV?
Other than that pretty much perfect I reckon 🙂
Ha Ha, as spoken by a true caver, definitely missed a trick there, tight i think but could be done. Just had to go back and look at the video and see what you mean about the bottom of the TV, well spotted, we didn't notice that when we were watching the TV over the weekend - but now you've pointed it out!!!😂 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
That layout is such a good idea but if it were me and you are going that big I would agree do you need the extra length. Size matters 😅
We definitely would need to be sure we could get everything in, I was looking at the front storage thinking I could get the ski's and water sports kit in there 😀⛷🛶 ideally this length for ease of use but has to fit two ebikes without dismantling them 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures We have to dismantle our bikes so were thinking of building one of these to fit into the garage ruclips.net/video/ce_Jr-u6CbI/видео.html
That's a fair bit of woodwork but completely understand how important it is to have a good garage solution for the bikes 👍
Definitely beautiful, but such a hefty price tag 🤔😍
Yes, the price tag is eye watering 😂 we would love one, it totally exceeded our expectations! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures and you named him as well 😜😍
The Alde heating is fab isn’t it. We would never compromise on that heating system 👍😍
I'm sure we agreed before taking it out not to name it!!! 🤣 Alde...It was the first time we'd experienced it, so warm and evenly circulated 👍😍
That garage lifting thing for the bike handles looks poorly made, looked like it didn't want to close.
Yeah, definitely some room for improvement there we think, cheers..Andy&Michelle
Dream motorhome, seems like it just needs an extra handle under the seat in the garage to pull it back down . It would be nice to keep the length under 8m and not go for the bigger version
Yes you are right, that should sort the garage issue. You can claim that one when Carthago change the design on it 😀 This model at 7.85 didn't feel too big to drive but it only just fitted on the pitch at the club site. Those extra 20cm on the Long model could make all the difference. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
only one thing you have not said a lot about the driverspart has it got sat nav that is a inportant part because you are going to spend most of your time driving.
Yes, a bit of a miss there on our part, we’ll be sure to include on future reviews, thanks for the comment, cheers..Andy&Michelle
Loved the review, and thanks for showing us around Lionel at the Knaresborough site. He is truly a luxurious masterpiece, although the garage/seating bump/cushion thing seemed at odds with the rest of the thoughtful design. It really is a base camp that has everything. At over a quarter of a million pounds I think we’d want to live it it full time. Looking forward to seeing when you get yours…😜 ps hope your feeling better Michelle x
Thanks Simon and Carol, it was great to meet you at Knaresbourough and have a good chat, (and see Buz!) We could definitely very easily spend a lot of time in Lionel! 😀 Michelle not quite recovered yet 🤧 nurse Andy here doing his best👨🏼⚕️! Cheers...Andy&Michelle x
FOR THIS MODEST PRICE , IT SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE FIREPLACE AND SAUNA 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And a Butler! 🤣 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great video. Would you buy one?
Thanks Ian, if we were in the market for that price range then it would be right up there in our buying choices, it was perfect for us apart from the garage so we'd need to see how our easily our ebikes went in, cheers...Andy&Michelle
What is the price of this unit
Nice but for the cost of a small semi detatched house you would expect nothing less. Have you placed an order for one?
We'd love to have one but this is beyond our means, we were back in Katie last weekend and it was difficult to image how a similar sized vehicle (35cm more) actually packed so much in over our model. Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Looks an amazing build, is this a future option?
What are the running costs like?
That's a good question, it only had 300 miles on the clock so still running in but I think around 20mpg - don't quote me on that 😀 with the solar, inverter , 2 x gas and large tanks it would be possible to be self sufficient and off grid for quite a few days. A future option? never say never but not quite sure how we'd fund it! 🤣Cheers...Andy&Michelle
At £260,000 who cares???!!!
Nice! What would it cost to change to U.S. standards?
Sorry John, wouldn't have a clue what it costs to convert to US standards. We know someone who took their old van across to the US and it wasn't a big deal deal to sort it, Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Almost impossible to spec this with a useable payload. Ie fill up with water and fuel it’s pretty much illegal before you go anywhere with the weight of the main option packages. I looked at this and the e-line - that has the same problem on single axle. We ended up with a c tourer a class uprated to 4,500 kg to have something practical.
This model on the Iveco is 5800kg with a weight in running order of 4235kg we didn't take it on a weigh bridge, but i'd estimate somewhere in the region of 500kg for the extras (Super Package 100kg, Aircon 95kg, Awning 60kg and then 250kg for the smaller items, that still gives a payload of around 1000kg should be plenty even with a full garage and fresh water? Next time though we'll find a weigh bridge😀👍 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Ah - missed that they lent you the Iveco. I spec’d that exact model and (with autolevelling added, full fuel and water) got to a payload of 412kg (at a price of £242k). For shorter Fiat based model I got to a payload of 219kg on the same basis, and that only after paying for the upgrade of 300kg to 4,800kg (!). Beautiful vans (and we’re very happy with our C Tourer comfort which has about 700kg now its uprated to 4,500kg) but you really have to watch the weights as some of their models, even assuming their stated figures are correct, would be overweight as soon as you left the drive. It is especially telling that they have just added annoying pop up legal disclaimers to their website on this very topic. Great review btw and love your videos - we will keep an eye on what they do with the next generation Liner when we’re ready to change :).
Thanks Gordon ... and you're right, doesn't leave much to play with!
Loverly motorhome but I agree with you I don’t like they way the bikes go in. Also the cost with extras are pushing the cost towards a Morelo and Concorde
The comparable cost with the Morelo and Concorde is something we discussed and concluded if we had the luxury of picking 🤣 we'd probably have a liner-for-two. We've had a boozy night in a Concorde before and while they are big and have a lot of status/presence they don't make as much effective use of the space and this would be easier to drive and park 😀 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures We have an Concorde 791 RL ourselves, it has almost the same layout and dimensions, but with the bigger garage. We love it, especially the "3 rooms" layout and the round rear sitting area. Great VLOG BTW!!
@@wallplus7581 Glad you enjoyed the vlog 😀 We've just googled the Concorde 791 RL, wow , its beautiful. We didn't realise Concorde made these! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures yes, its the Carver we have! it's a little bit higher than the liner for2 but you have a complete underfloor, what is important if you want to live in it or stay for a longer while.
@@wallplus7581 We'll have to take a look at one the next time we are at a show😀
Very expensive ! (£260,000).
However, ... it is a " Home away from home !! "
Yes, if you are looking for a home on the road this would be very comfortable! Cheers…Andy&Michelle
Lol all of that loung area and it doesn't turn into a bed? Plus that garage access from inside was really low quality.
Hi Rory, it can be configured with a different table to make into a bed, cheers..Andy&Michelle
Any in USA
No sorry, you would need to import one and convert to USA standards, Cheers...Andy&Michelle
You two are cute and funny
😀
Did you have the bathroom door like that so you could see yourselves in the mirror in bed? 😉
Way too posh for us!
Extremely plush though
No - we use the one on the ceiling for that! 🤣 Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures 😉
Great….. shame they don’t do it on a Mercedes engine/chassis !
260k and no dishwasher!
I’m sure it’s an extra if you wanted! Cheers…Andy&Michelle
sadly we can only dream 😒
Us too! It’s good to dream occasionally! 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
Yep that garage looked a total, palaver. I can not be doing with anything that is not straight forward as you just do not use it .
Nice van other that that.
I guess that's something for them to work on for the next model, always need to keep those design engineers on their toes! Cheers...Andy&Michelle
Seriously looking at this van, but no draining rack for sink..stupid
Our current model Carthago doesn’t have a drainer either but we use a collapsing one, guess it’s to make more work surface space but maybe there a design idea that could incorporate one 😀 cheers…Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures I think the sink covers could flip over and be a drainer.
Not sure if I would like to sit all the way at the back on a bouncy 12 hr trip to Barcelona! 🤮 Also the cushion obstructs the TV... Annoying when you're spending £ 260k !!! Two hundred and sixty thousand! TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND.... That's 100% of 9 years of the average UK salary !!!
For Russians - клип высокого уровня, каких у нас делать почти не умеют. К машине могут быть претензии, но классная реклама их убивает. Доколе мы будем унылыми голосами обозревать за 4 минуты автодом, заслуживающий минимум 7-8 мин. анализа (а то и все 15) - дотоле и покупки будут ерундовыми.
Unfortunately google didn't make a very good job of translating back to English so couldn't really understand your points but thanks for taking the time to comment 😀 cheers...Andy&Michelle
You would have to be a multimillionaire to buy it, but, would a multimillionaire think it worth spending that much on it?
Hi Valerie, surprisingly to us, we have seen a lot of these on sites in Europe and also it's not just those with extremely deep pockets, we know people who have sold up there home to live full time in these big Motorhomes, it's not for us as we need the flexibility to drive and parkup anywhere, cheers...Andy&Michelle
Great vehicle but anything over 7 mtrs complicates travel.
Our Motorhome is 7.5m, which we find ok for park ups and sites but have to plan ahead when using town carparks and are limited when parking to do some of our hikes. Our buying choice was between the flexibility to go where a car can and the garage to hold the ebikes. There's not a perfect solution for us but most of the time its ok😀 Cheers..Andy&Michelle
I don't like this review. There's no knowledge of the Engine, manual or automatic? Or the cockpits facilities at all.
Sorry to hear you didn't like it Debz, the next time we do a review we'll be sure to include more from the cockpit, Cheers...Andy&Michelle
@@ExtremeMotorhomingAdventures thanks that would be really useful. 😁
Stupid money, so overpriced.
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Wow
sure is a great MH😀