This is the most complete, clearest, and informative "hopper/dropper" lesson I have ever watched. can't wait to get out on the water and try it. Thanks Joe
Hey HOWDY !!!! This is One of the BEST Tutorials EVER !!!!!! “ ON - POINT !!! “. Thank You SO MUCH !!!!!!! This is Phenomenal Actually …… So Much POOR content out there …… This is REAL & HELPFUL !!!!!! Much Thanks !!!! ✨🎣💫
3 to 1 is a good ratio! Nothing sucks in fishing more than knowing that you just put a fish on a death timer, or blinded it because the dropper wrapped around your fish and hooked it in the eye, or belly or gills!
@@redsflyshop hah!! I forgot I watched this video! Well, I guess that's a sign from the universe to head out with a dry dropper rig! Thursday is the day!! I'm so excited!
Vertical drift is something a lot of fly fisherman are not aware of when it comes to nymph fishing. Adding split shots can also help to compensate the vertical currents.
Awesome, straightforward info as always Joe! Thank you. 😊 One additional thing I like to do is to tie the dropper tippet through the eye on the hopper so you can use a loop knot to attach the tippet to the hopper. This lets the dropper tippet swivel and let’s the nymph sink more readily.
More and more I'm finding that I guide with Hopper Dropper rigs, so that we can be mobile and swap out to a streamer or a straight dry fly quickly, no fuss. Moving it around the river is so much faster than an indicator as well.
Great info, as always, Joe. Couldn't agree more on the oversized beadheads, which is part of the reason I most often use perdigons as my dropper when flows are high.
Very good explanation of river current speed dynamics. Also applies to nymph/indicator fishing. Looking a bit head I've has success using hopper with small beetle or terrestrial as a dropper. Both flies on the surface and trout considering the hopper but shies away often grab the smaller terrestrial pattern. Give it a try!
Great video. Covered a lot of good detail while still being digestible. The illustration and physical example of the flies really helped me understand exactly what you are taking about. Would love to see more videos like this.
Let the nymph catch up so the presentation is more natural through the drift. I always did this when using a floating indicator esp in fast water but wasn’t sure if it was the proper technique. Thanks for the confirmation!
Interesting take. Keep hopper floating drag free for natural presentation. Lengthen the dropper tippet to get the dropper deeper. Finally use droppers that don’t have a lot of water drag but be aware they the dropper presentation will be unnaturally fast.
Wow…. This just might be a huge tool in my toolbox!! Question… will the non slip mono loop knot work if I use a fluorocarbon tippet to help the nymph drop more of a straight drop below the hopper? Thanks for all your videos..🎣🎣🎣🎣
Why not use the analogy of nymph fishing with a strike indicator? Because that’s what hopper-dropper fishing is. Either use a heavier nymph if you’re fishing short drifts or lengthen the distance of the dropper. Generally length 3x the depth you’re fishing
Great question. I personally don't change anything, but do find that Weight Forward lines are much better than Double Taper lines. Likely your existing line will turn over a (2) fly rig just fine. Just keep your leader at 7.5' or less for the ease of casting.
I have been fishing fast water and avoid indicators so I went to the very large chubby Chernobyl to help my fly from drowning. I’ll try to downsize and see if I become more effective. Thanks for the info!
Do hopper dropper setups work in the middle of the river? Or more so to be used on the bank? I know the nymph would work in the middle but I guess what I’m wondering is will fish still come up and take a hopper or chubby chernoble away from the banks?
Oh absolutely, it's a great question. I have found that when anglers fish a "hopper dropper" with the mentality they are fishing the nymph, not just the dry fly, both flies become more productive because you are casting to where most of the fish are. Looking for unique boulders, seamlines, drop offs, etc. So YES absolutely it works mid river. Just follow your gut instincts and you'll find that both patterns are more productive.
This is the most complete, clearest, and informative "hopper/dropper" lesson I have ever watched. can't wait to get out on the water and try it. Thanks Joe
Thanks Vince!
Joe’s always makes me wish I lived in Washington so I could go to Reds and fish with those guys. Another great video. Joe is a great communicator.
Stephen, thanks so much. Very kind words and I'm grateful for the opportunity to do this for a living. Really appreciate the props!
Hey HOWDY !!!!
This is One of the BEST Tutorials EVER !!!!!!
“ ON - POINT !!! “. Thank You SO MUCH !!!!!!!
This is Phenomenal Actually …… So Much POOR content out there …… This is REAL & HELPFUL !!!!!! Much Thanks !!!!
✨🎣💫
3 to 1 is a good ratio! Nothing sucks in fishing more than knowing that you just put a fish on a death timer, or blinded it because the dropper wrapped around your fish and hooked it in the eye, or belly or gills!
Agreed. The wrap up is a killer man. Fine tippet is like a razor blade on trout skin.
@@redsflyshop hah!! I forgot I watched this video! Well, I guess that's a sign from the universe to head out with a dry dropper rig! Thursday is the day!! I'm so excited!
The most comprehensive explanation I've found. Thank you.
Thanks Bill, really appreciate it. I wish I knew some of these things years ago. Would have kept me more consistent and confident.
Vertical drift is something a lot of fly fisherman are not aware of when it comes to nymph fishing. Adding split shots can also help to compensate the vertical currents.
Good info, Joe. I wish you had talked about why the NZ yarn indicator achieves this without much fuss from the angler. Thanks!
Awesome, straightforward info as always Joe! Thank you. 😊
One additional thing I like to do is to tie the dropper tippet through the eye on the hopper so you can use a loop knot to attach the tippet to the hopper. This lets the dropper tippet swivel and let’s the nymph sink more readily.
Hopper dropper is my favorite way to fish!!
More and more I'm finding that I guide with Hopper Dropper rigs, so that we can be mobile and swap out to a streamer or a straight dry fly quickly, no fuss. Moving it around the river is so much faster than an indicator as well.
Thank you for this very descriptive lesson on Hopper Dropper, truly appreciated.
You bet, I'm glad it came out as good as it did. People seem to connect with some of the ideas here.
Great info, as always, Joe. Couldn't agree more on the oversized beadheads, which is part of the reason I most often use perdigons as my dropper when flows are high.
Yes, they sink like a bullet.
Very good explanation of river current speed dynamics. Also applies to nymph/indicator fishing. Looking a bit head I've has success using hopper with small beetle or terrestrial as a dropper. Both flies on the surface and trout considering the hopper but shies away often grab the smaller terrestrial pattern. Give it a try!
Cool, thanks that's a good tip.
Great information! Been fishing for dry-dropper rig for awhile and this video it's very helpful.
For the upstream tension tip, add a wiggle to your rod tip as you do it. It will make your hopper/stonefly skate on the surface better.
Great advise as always. Thanks
Really solid and thorough tutorial. Well done. I learned a good bit.
Great video. Covered a lot of good detail while still being digestible. The illustration and physical example of the flies really helped me understand exactly what you are taking about. Would love to see more videos like this.
Nice concise , clear instructions !
Very nice illustration and informative video ! Well done !
Outstanding video. Clear explanation and great diagrams ..
Droppin' Science, Joe! Great job as always.
Oh man that clicked in my head! Oooooh ah ha moment. Thx Joe!
Great lesson from Prof Joe!
Let the nymph catch up so the presentation is more natural through the drift. I always did this when using a floating indicator esp in fast water but wasn’t sure if it was the proper technique. Thanks for the confirmation!
Enjoyed your video. Just subscribed. Keep breaking things down. I’m new to FF and eating this stuff up!
Awesome. I want everyone to experience the highs and joys that I have had in fly fishing. Appreciate the subscribe and the kind words. Fish on!
Interesting take.
Keep hopper floating drag free for natural presentation. Lengthen the dropper tippet to get the dropper deeper. Finally use droppers that don’t have a lot of water drag but be aware they the dropper presentation will be unnaturally fast.
Excellent video. Thank you. Lots of good ideas.
This is great teaching!
Excellent information. Thank you.
Spot on Joe, thanks!
Great tutorial 😊
Thanks Kevin, much appreciated!
Great tips. Thanks!
Great information!
That fish drawing is sick.
Yea, I'm pretty much Tara Banks with my art.
@@redsflyshop 😂
Nice job!!!
for what it's worth, Flouro is monofilament. So is nylon. I think the distinction you're trying to make is flouro vs nylon.
Wow…. This just might be a huge tool in my toolbox!! Question… will the non slip mono loop knot work if I use a fluorocarbon tippet to help the nymph drop more of a straight drop below the hopper? Thanks for all your videos..🎣🎣🎣🎣
Hey Joe great video! who uses a 3x?
“Upstream tension on the hopper”….great tip.
Hey, nice video. Thanks.
Hey thanks for watching, appreciate the props. Good luck on the water.
Why not use the analogy of nymph fishing with a strike indicator? Because that’s what hopper-dropper fishing is.
Either use a heavier nymph if you’re fishing short drifts or lengthen the distance of the dropper. Generally length 3x the depth you’re fishing
Nice!
Nice fish drawing
Thanks for sharing this video - always helpful! Do you use a specific fly line for H/D fishing? 🎣
Great question. I personally don't change anything, but do find that Weight Forward lines are much better than Double Taper lines. Likely your existing line will turn over a (2) fly rig just fine. Just keep your leader at 7.5' or less for the ease of casting.
appriciate teh tips!
I have been fishing fast water and avoid indicators so I went to the very large chubby Chernobyl to help my fly from drowning. I’ll try to downsize and see if I become more effective. Thanks for the info!
Dope .. thanks
But, the set you are showing is fishing downstream...is that what you mean?
...to say nothing of the wind that tends to drive the dry fly, especially a hopper, like a sailboat over the water even faster than the current.
what is the maximum length dropper leader would you use
I have that 5X Fluoro Carbon. Can’t tie a loop knot or any knot without breaking when setting the knot. Is this just a bad batch or is this typical?
Great video Joe! If your using the non slip mono loop double rig and you want to change your top fly? What’s the best way too change it out?
Do hopper dropper setups work in the middle of the river? Or more so to be used on the bank? I know the nymph would work in the middle but I guess what I’m wondering is will fish still come up and take a hopper or chubby chernoble away from the banks?
Oh absolutely, it's a great question. I have found that when anglers fish a "hopper dropper" with the mentality they are fishing the nymph, not just the dry fly, both flies become more productive because you are casting to where most of the fish are. Looking for unique boulders, seamlines, drop offs, etc. So YES absolutely it works mid river. Just follow your gut instincts and you'll find that both patterns are more productive.
@@redsflyshop Thanks for the response. Good info
please shpw better pictures of your flies you are using when you are showing them they are a blur!!!
What is the ideal size for a 3w rod to dry hopper? Thanks