Best Kept Swap Secrets!
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- These 5 Cars were blessed with looks, handling, value, and potential, just not Horsepower!
Every car on this list is just one motor swap away from being the total package, and that means they are overlooked, underloved and a great value! If you think there might be some other bangers I missed, lay em on me in the comments!
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RX8 basically shares the front suspension/subframe with the NC MX5. If you wanted, you can bolt up the MX-5 subframe and trans, and put in a Ford duratec 2.5L out of a Fusion or Mazda6, turbo, and make 300whp on junkyard parts.
I think a Porsche 944 could be a good contender. They are still dirt cheap and a few companies make decent LS swap kits.
Doesn't the fact that they use a transaxle rather than a standard transmission make swapping them more difficult, though?
@@ZeGermanHam There's kits for it, but it's not exactly a cheap swap with all the gear needed. Still an awesome car, and they are good value.
@@ZeGermanHam from what I've seen they typically use the bell housing from a C5 Corvette and bolt that to the front of the torque tube. But the transaxles are expensive to upgrade for big horsepower.
@@benkirkpatrick5278 Yeah, I sold my 944 last year after deciding I wasn't up to swapping it, but the 944 Turbo transaxles are getting pretty thin on the ground and even an original LS1 with only 350 hp will break the stock 944 transaxle without much difficulty.
Why not a t5 and narrowed 9 inch swap wit the v8
I worked for a Chevrolet dealership for 30 years and one of the cars I bought used was a 1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo. It had a 3.8 Buick v6 which I immediately replaced with a big block 454. Still have it. So fun to drive.
nice swap, but that Buick Y6 is the same as the GN block it just needs an oil hole drilled in the front. 600 hp capacity, enough most people can't even put it to the ground. but a 454 will make that power and last longer for less $$ :)
TA, I just love how you are such a straight shooter, you don't hesitate to tell us your opinion, but you're not too pushy about either... so refreshing. I love G bodies too. They look killer. It's a shame we don't have them here in Aus but we do have lots of other cool options. Keep up the good content!!
You meant to tell me that you guys have Ute's, but never had El Camino's? Blasphemy! Lol
@@SightsNjunk No El Camino's because we had better here..
No Elco come stock with an LSA or turbo Barra or supercharged coyote🤷♂️
Holden and ford utes did though..
You had them in the 80's? What platform was it if it wasn't a G-body?
G bodies are sweet, but it has some suspension geometry issues that need correcting. I have an 83 grand prix, so I'm not hating... but no one needs positive camber under compression.
@@SightsNjunk Ford and Holden Australia had their own chassis and utes from the 1950's through til 2016. In the 80's the Holden would be a WB ute the Ford would be XD, XE or XF model.
No need for an El Camino or Ranchero down here mate when we already had better version's..
Tony, I just recently picked up a Pontiac Solstice, from 06-10. Saturn Sky is same as well. Minor differences between em, both come with either a 2.4 ecotec NA or 2.0 Turbo motor, auto or manual. For about 5-6k its an easy LS swap and then basically a smaller corvette. Its a parts bin car, so its got a C6 vette steering wheel.
One drawback is the wheels, high offset weird bolt pattern, 5x110.
I can't believe how many people are saying solstice! That's a great car for sure. I don't think I realized they are so cheap.
@@StayTunedTA Knowing you, youll find a semi decent one for a good price. I traded a bike I had for the car and had 5500 in the bike.
The stuff thats unique to the car, the seals, body and interior is getting hard to find. Beyond that it handles like its on rails, has decent power, front engine RWD.
Malibu Cobalt motor, Colorado trans, caddy rear diff. Literally lol.
Also if you can find a Z0K(option, check inner side of glovebox lid) solstice, its kinda the "race prepped" one. No AC, manual locks and windows, only in a stick.
Just bought an 06 RX8 for the same reasons you mentioned. The sad part is the rotary engine is actually pretty good in a car this size and mass. I get the want for more horsepower and torque, but I also think I get what Mazda's vision was for this car. So far I really like it as it is. That doesn't mean it won't see pistons and camshafts in its future.
Love these videos from you Tony. As much as I love the builds and watching you discuss the challenges and issues of upgrading and repairing old cars, I really love these "Fireside chat" type viseos with a little crazy uncle thrown in. Keep it up and congradualtions on 100k subs. You will be to a million soon enough.
Love your shows !!! Your enthusiasm and knowledge are amazing! Glad you’re back in PA with the fam! Leaving now and checking out your merch. Thanks
Love the #1 pick. I had a chance to get two with blown motors for $1k a few years ago, but had nowhere to put them. Top of my list for cars to pick up and learn skills on without spending a lot or feeling bad about ruining a gem
This channel is about to explode. So underrated. It quickly became my favorite watch. This man is very knowledgeable and a dope dude. Keep up the fast work my guy.
Thanks man! We are having fun getting rolling!
A buddy of mine built an 84 cutlass with a 1970 455. That car was the ultimate sleeper!
+1 on the RX-8. Chassis is a bit 'longer wheelbase MX-5'. I recently saw one with a Mustang 3.7 V6 and it was badass. Randy Pobst drove an RX-8, with a Camaro NA V6 (LFX) and LOVED it.
Stock gears(4.44 or 4.77) in the RX-8 would make that fun. Add some mild boost or giggle gas for a real kick.
Barras are our cheap/available alternative to your LS here in NZ. When you busted out the RX8 as the top choice I was like nooo you let the secret out the bag lol. But seriously a great platform for a K Series or Barra Ripper/Drift/Drag/Daily skies the limit. I'm surprised that there hasn't been any popular RUclips builds using these platform combinations
Put a 2JZ TURBO in it, and it will rip the pavement up.
Also any mini truck, the new gto which came with a 6.0, any cheap Camaro or mustang, the Pontiac solstice/Saturn sky, 3 series bmw, hell even full sized short bed single cabs. There’s a guy in Utah has a awd turbo 4.8 Chevy truck runnin 11s. Tons of cheap options. 👍🏾
1st gen Dodge Dakota
Spot on! Reasons why the Oldsmobile Cutlass is on the list include that they were the top selling car several years (some in a row!) in the late 70s and early 80s, which means there are still a lot of them out there, which makes them cheaper, easier to find, and a better selection than the other G bodies. Many came with Buick V6s which also keeps the price down. Happy car hunting!
I have a 79 Salon coupe w/5000 miles.
I got 2 1987 monte carlo luxury sports.
about 20 years ago, I had am 87 Honda Prelude. it was the 2 door Accord, but it had dual carbs. It was a really fun car when it lasted. I had to replace the alternator 3 times in a month due to a dead short somewhere in the car.
Kyle from Boosted Bois put a k24 in the BRZ, made it look strait up plug and play, even kept the A/C.
I think your assessment is good. Porsche 944 used to be a good choice but collector fools have driven prices through the roof for even basic ones. I am fond of the Jag XJS as well as any you find usually have dead V12's in them and GM transmissions so easy to swap GM stuff into.
I keep bugging my son to do the SC400 with a 1UZ or a RX8 with an L33 aluminum 5.3 with CD099
Hahaha, that 70s Price Is Right/Archer sad trombone noise. Been using that for my notification sound on my phone for a while. Love it 🤣
LS engine in a Porsche 944. Not a tough swap, with tons of aftermarket support, and one of the best chassis of the '80's and early'90's. They won practically every 'Best Handling Car' test they ever were considered for. Honda Prelude with a K-motor swap would be sick, too. Not sure if that's been done, or how doable it is. Another brilliant chassis, though.
How are you, Tony? Saw your honorable mention over at TikTok👍I own two Mk III Supras. I got sick and tired of dealing with the 7MGT, so my main supra has a 1992 Lexus SC 400 1UZ engine that’s absolutely rips and it is getting an HTV 2300 supercharger. I own several 1uz engines and the most expensive one was $450. Side note, I have been told I am the Walmart Tony Angelo 😂 Keep up the awesome work, man.
I like this list. At this year’s Power Tour I saw dude with a 2JZ powered ‘68 Dart GT. The car was bare bones but that thing fit in there like a slant six. No butchery involved. I did not realize the SC300 was so Supra-like. Great tip.
I come from a time when V8 Vegas were cool. I think your #1 pick is dead on, with an LS of course.
Yeah, that is the way I would go too. I am thinking about it right now. They are just too good and too cheap.
Yep, helped a friend pull the hamster motor out of the Vega wagon he bought for $200 in the 80’s. Put a 383 Chevy in it and it rocked. The hardest part was actually cutting down a rear end for it.
I agree with you on the SC. They look great and I personally like a car with a longer wheelbase for comfort. They also have after market body kits for them too. 👍
Learn something new every day! Never knew RX-8's have 1.5 doors. I saw one mostly stock at work recently and couldn't recall the last time I saw one actually driving on the streets!
Nice! Solid points on number 1 pick. I wouldn’t have gone there, but now you have me thinking…
Another great episode Tony !!!
Thanks bud! You gonna build a drag Rx-8 or what?!
For engine swaps, I think there’s also plenty of small block chevys out there for dirt cheap. Might not be as powerful as the LS, but you don’t need all the computer gadgets to get it running. A carb and a few simple wires to run ignition and your off and blazing tires.
You can build a regular small block to 400hp or so for cheap and easy. There’s so many used parts out there because they were the go to for so long.
The LS got popular since it was modern and starts off with more power than a stock old small block. And, with the fuel injection the engine ends up shorter than a carb on top of a decent intake. So it fits into stuff easier.
I have a C10 with the og small block and these things like to leak so easy. I've considered swapping in an LS just to keep oil spots off the driveway!
Perfect timing for this article! Monza of Street Outlaws just bought and is building a 1985 Pontiac Grand Prix G-body for upcoming episodes of the show in which they are going back to real "street" cars. Heck, his is even going to retain its factory air conditioning and power windows! I'm happy to see the show & racers shift focus from Pro-Mod cars back to Street cars.
Bro your editing if F-ing hilarious. This channel is gonna go far, keep pushing man!
Thanks dude! We are having fun with it!
thanks Tony! love the content, gonna miss you on hot rod garage
Didn't know that. Tony & Lucky had the best car show Ever.
Kick-Ass builds and made it fun and funny.
Thanks for sharing, Tony
I think this is the 3rd in this " best car to get series ", you seriously have me thinking about those 80s Oldsmobiles. You mentioned them in one of the previous ones. Excellent episode!
Thanks! Yeah, they are awesome, getting scooped up but you can still find em.
Ok, glad I came back and kept watching! Cutlass big block idea I can get behind!
I really enjoy these list videos. Great one Tony!
Thanks! Glad you like em!
Good list I bought a sc430 blown up for 400 bucks and a chevy express cargo van with a 6.0...5gs later had one of the coolest most capable slider/weekend cruiser around town.
That rules! I love the SC, esp after Daigo had his at FD.
I agree with all of Tony's picks! My own recommendation for a great swap car would be the Chevrolet Cavalier and Pontiac Sunfire. SUPER cheap (like five hundred bucks cheap) easy to find, and a Quad 4 will bolt right in. If that's a bit too mild, a 3.8 Buick V6 will fit in the front easily. I agree that FWD isn't great, but if you're aiming for a dumb fun 300hp car to trash around they're pretty good. Personally, nothing is more fun than a car you don't have to care about.
great video bud! keep them coming!
I'd like to mention, all Subaru's. I'm currently driving a 09 legacy with a turbo 408 ford Windsor swapped in. Backed by a t5 transmission. It's a monster. Picked up the chassis for $300.
Fun edit. Nice work.
The RX-8 is #1 on my list as well. I'd love to build one, but too many projects already.
Overlooked? E46 BMW. They're all over the place with cooked motors, and there are kits to LS swap them.
How about Miatas? They are great as-is, but a buddy just K24 swapped his track Miata and it's a monster.
I've got a 316i as my DD here in Germany. Every single time I drive it I think how awesome it would be with a mild 4.8/5.3. A solid 300-400hp and a T56 would make for the perfect car. Not to mention it would be rock solid reliable at that power level.
I bought my E46 with the intention of swapping in a GM engine. IMO combining Detroit iron with European handling would be awesome.
I would not call either miatas or e46's overlooked, they are well known and get a loot of use. We have a grassroots drifting series here with 300tdw 205 tire size rule, and i just call it the e46 cup as 90% are 328's and 330's. They just sold so many of them and they have yet to rust away so they are plentiful, even with how many are being modified.
E46 had rear subframe issues
The 1978-1979 and 81 up cutlass is the main for everyone I love the 80. Such a sleeper looking old man car
Awesome video. You are so hilarious. Love it.
The hardest part to get around for me is the emissions issue. Where I live in Colorado it needs to be 85 or older to get around that. Plus I have 5 kids. Lol. That's probably why I customize mini bikes instead.
Your best video yet, Tony!
My brother had an SC400 when we were kids and that thing was fucking wicked! The 1UZ quickly became one of my favorite engines.
91-96 Chevy caprice or impala ss with ls or stock lt1 definitely a sweet car
I think regular cab Colorados are an AWESOME swap candidate. You can even do it with 100% factory stuff if you want to, because they made both two and four wheel drive Colorados with all aluminum 5.3L 4th-gen LS V8s (I have a stock-ish 2012 extended cab Z71 4WD with factory 4.10s and a G80 and a pretty hopped up TR6060-swapped extended cab ZQ8 2WD with 3.73s and a Truetrac), but only in extended and crew cab automatic configurations. I fully intend to put all the goodies from my ZQ8 in a base regular cab truck one day when I have a place to do it.
With you on the RX-8, too. I got a chance to ride in and drive one with a bone-stock L33 aluminum 5.3L truck motor in it, and it was an absolute animal and one of the best-handling, easiest-to-drive-fast cars I've ever experienced.
I bought myself an SC400 just before Christmas. I love it. Haltech goes into it next month. I'm setting it up for roll and drag racing. Was probably better off going 2JZ but I really wanted a 1UZ coz I missed owning a V8 and they can still make a shitload of power.
All about those smiles per hour 😄
Also, recently was talking about 2JZ swapping an 86 with my work mates. Sounds like an awesome idea.
I'm just here for the sarcasm, dry humor and quick wit... mostly.
Dig your top 5's. Keep em coming.
Quite a few options for the RX8, I own 2 of them! One non runner, just trying to decide which engine to swap into it. I'm not a fan of an LS due to the weight throwing off the 50/50 balance. LFX V6 out of a camaro or K series have my vote as of right now. You should definitely get another one as I still believe it is by far the most underrated chassis on the market. Best brakes and handling money can buy! I still run my red one with it's original engine at over 82k miles and it's going strong. Just have to know how to maintain it, keep it lubricated, keep temps down, and beat it like it owes you money!
Awesome those g bodies were awesome. Had 86 regal with 307 in 86 in high school.
I love the rear wheel drive frs. I sat in it when they first came out and I was in love. I totally want one still in manual. I like the swaps but the part I really like about the frs is it's a quicker car than the carolla with the same fuel economy... It would be swapped after commuter duty.
What about the Miata? I remember they had a 5.0 Ford swap that was popular back in the early 90s. Would make a Sunbeam Tiger like sports car. Unless they are too expensive now. But they've made them for 30 years so there should be plenty of them.
yea but when you put a big ole V8 in it, the handling aspect of it goes away. Plus if it just needs a little more horsepower they have a zillion supercharger and turbo kits for it
I agree all the way on all picks. Good job, buddy
TONY, I don't have anything to add to the conversation, I drive an 81 C3 and always will. I just wanted to make sure the RUclips algorithm knows that you are cool and deserve great things here.
Right on! Thanks dude.
RX8 was my first car back in 2010, your and Derek King's cars were my absolute idols in the US RX8 world back then. I'm 28 now and have owned more cars than I can count, all the way up to R35s, and yet the RX8s ive owned are still genuinely among my favorites. I've been saying for years they are the most slept on car in the drifting and track world. The platform is incredible. Really enjoying the content, thanks man
Very cool man! Derek has a ton of great stuff, and seems to get more every week.
Great video you always make me laugh some good pics some cool swaps Peace
Yessss the whole time I was literally saying rx8. Those cars handle amazing. I know the rotary is junk but the sound of one with an exhaust sounds amazing.
Great Episode
If you really want something that fits in everything look at the small Ford Windsors. The 260/289/302 block is tiny and will fit well in just about anything. Even small English roadsters 😁
Damn Tony, this shit was just funny!! I love the editing. Keep it up my dude..
Awesome video Tony!!! 🇺🇸💪🏼
Thanks !
It's so funny how in the 80's & 90's I didn't think of the G body at all except for the Gran National's because they were so much heavier than many other options but hot rodders will do what they do motor swap and lighten, the G bodies all had certain trims that looked great the Cutlass did look good. I did smoke a 84 Hurst/Olds in the late 80's with my 65 Mustang but my car had more mods better power to weight. I would love to see you do an eng. swap on a RX8.
So so happy you chose the rx8!! ESP as number 1!! I honestly wondered if it would show up. The dream is LFX rx8 so power and lightness. Do it tony I believe in you. Make rx8’s cool again!!
Might I add a z31 Nissan 300zx. That car can be had for relatively cheap. You can beef up the vg30 that's in it but a vg33 is almost a direct swap or use pretty much any swap motor you can think of since the engine bay is both pretty wide and long. It handle great and has a lot of cool gizmos like electronic suspension, fully adjustable seats, pop up headlights, ect. Only real downside is the suspension is similar to the s130 280zx so getting coil overs are either quite expensive or will have to be modified from an s13 kit
these new vids are awesome!!!
Dude, love your enthusiasm 😂👍🔥
Thanks! I got hyped for this one!
@@StayTunedTA I've been following you for a long time, always dig everything you do 👍
Love these lists. I always agree with them
Another episode filmed after inhaling too much rubber smoke 😂😂✌ great info Tony and i agree i like , tho never owned the mazda rx8 i like the looks and the kits you showed for it very nice. All the little qwips tossed in very funny. 👍👍✌
Good list!
I like it! Always kinda liked the look of a RX 8 just not a fan of the Rotary.. But and ls in it, also always wanted to try a swap with an ls. Hopefully they stay cheap! Good idea!
I've got the 6.1 swapped magnum dad-rod, and it's all the power i need. Mabey one day a supercharger or turbo would be cooltoo. Tony if you're ever in Oregon and want to drive it again or work on it just hit me up lol.
I watch that episode regularly. Love that magnum...nice buy brother
I like your picks!
I'd absolutely love to have a BRZ or FRS. Awesome little cars, they look like incredible fun. I didn't know you could put an LS into it, which would make for an insane ride. Corvette without Corvette money? I also like the GM A and G bodies a lot. RX8 with an LS? Wow, that would be impressive. I remember when they were racing those things on the road courses. It's the only thing I've ever heard that was louder and more obnoxious-sounding than the jet drier.
I'd put a turbo K in it, it's lighter :)
Love this sort of car guy content!
Looking for RX8’s now.
Hello marketplace.
Decent list Tony. Good to see you back.
Nice! Yeah, dig in there, and don't pay more than a grand! They are out there! Check for rust too, they get it.
Spoon engine on a Friday night for race wars! That’s frickin! hilarious! Luv this dude! BTW my 77 Vega Kammback with a blown 383 is my current swapped hot rod!
Just looked and there is a grey 04 RX8 roller for $800 on Marketplace in Auburn, Indiana. I have too many projects that need finished so go pick it up!
800 bucks! That is what i'm talking about! I actually still have a bunch of suspension parts laying around from when I used to race an Rx8.
YES, Tony acknowledged the Honda K24!!! 🏁
One note on the Oldsmobile G-body: Going by factory specs, the Oldsmobile Rocket 350 was loads better that that anemic 307 and it would just bolt right in, no mods whatsoever. The Rocket 350 was more powerful than it's Chevy counterpart from the get-go!
well, the Olds 350 had more potential with its bigger bore and 6 inch connecting rod, but the mouse made 375 hp and I don't remember a W31 making that stock. That said, i'm surprised he mentioned the G body after saying he wasn't going to count cars that came with small blocks--g bodies had 305s and i've seen my share of Cutlasses with mice under the hood. Even the 4.3 V6 seems to be up to host its engine mounts and the gas tank is set up for EFI.
I'm with you on the RX-8!! Had one, regret selling it!!
There's two RX8s sitting side by side for sale near my house. I'm buying the cheaper of the two now so I can follow your build and do the same with mine. Let's do this!
Let's GO!!!! Ok ok, I'm gonna grab one!
My buddy bought an rx8 with the plans of a k swap recently. Definitely a good pick
since I saw your video I looked for an RX8 . I Bought one yesterday . Very cool car , great Idea. big thanks to you from Switzerland. Now I dream of Swapin an LS1 but not so easy to find here. Did you buy one too ? Very looking forward to see you working on this .
Another honorable mention is our 2012 Jeep Patriot with a 2.4L 4 cylinder and it's just gutless man, I mean our Patriot (named Pebbles) just look so doggone cute and its all blacked out like a mini Range Rover not to mention practical as well it just needs some horsepower like it definitely needs either a 3.6L Penastar V6 out of a Dodge Grand Caravan or a 3.2L Penastar V6 out of a 2014 Jeep Cherokee Trail Hawk.
I'm surprised the Chrysler Crossfire was left off the list as well. Some AMG engines are practically drop ins (M-113s), and others are easy swaps (5.5L.) Plus there are a few running Hemis and LSs out there.
@@christianjadot4459 Right
Perfect timing, I'm looking for my next project car.
Awesome! Top 2 are killer buys right now!
@@StayTunedTA Would love to build the Olds. Didn't that body style dominate NASCAR back in the day? I had one in grad school but it was a $500 junker. Thanks!
Your editor has no chill and I'm here for it!
Along with the SC300, the SC400 has potential. They throw turbos on that engine in Australia in lots of cars. They 4.0 liter V8 in the SC400 is related to the 4.7 liter V8 in your Land Crusier. They are tough and reliable, you can look to the Aussie for all the know how to make those motors scream.
Great video
I was ready to be mad that the RX-8 wasn't on the list haha. Completely slept on chassis, I was debating that or the S13 (back when they were cheap) before I built my current track car. I think the facelifted ones look pretty good, too.
This a vid I’m gunna save for a future project.. I also think, as part of a list would be a late model Mazda Miata. 400 horsepower 302 and make it look like and handle like a Shelby Cobra. Great info 🍻👍
Dang it Tony! Don't take about the RX-8... because I want one. :) I want an '08-09 lapis blue one SO bad. (Like the one you showed.)
BTW, if you want a sleeper that's a riot, get a Chevy Astro or GMC Safari minivan. Vortec 5700 drops right in. You just need motor mounts and to add two extra wires for the extra injectors. LS swap is an option but it's alot more work. The Vortec (SBC), all the accessories swap right over from the stock V6. 4L60 can be built up. Throw in an Econoline E-150/250/350 9.75" rear end and you're done. OK, a turbo for 500-600HP and you're done. :D
I love the Astro vans! They are super cool. Been thinking about building one for a long while.
I would like to put some honorable mentions ....
90s Ford Thunderbirds/Cougars/Mark VIIIs for a modern-ish muscle car. Heck, someone has even put a 2JZ in one.
Teslas - Ok, a lot of work, but once that battery dies you can pick them up cheap.(I think these will be more and more common)
Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky - A bit on the pricer side. But there is potential there.
And with the most potential on my list ....
The Chrysler Crossfire. Great platform, and a fairly easy swap with an AMG 5.5l. Also people swap in the Hemi's as well (which are pretty dirt cheap). If I did not live in California, this would definitely be my next project.
the 7mgte is not a trash engine. mine ran great (after putting a mls head gasket in it). had tons of fun in my '87 turbo supra. it was fully loaded. that said, i did do the 1jzgtte swap.
I think a K swapped FRS would be a really fun car
Yes on the Olds G body. When I street raced in the early 90s a guy ran one with a 455 and a 4 speed and it was a beast
Hmmm you really got me thinking on the RX8, cut up into a back halved drag n drive, no prep , ls turbo or k24 turbo powered , drag radial, street bruiser.
People really underestimate how nice the rx8 handles right out of the box . K24 swap in one would be perfection.
😂😂😂 five foot eight and a quarter with asthma! Gold!