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Don’t follow matuidi, Ashari etc… Follow Allah his messenger with the understanding of the salaf and you will never go astray Beacuse they understood it the best and the prophet told us to follow them
السلام عليكم ورحمه الله It is important to understand 'correct' creed...as each aqeedah school has an extreme. Also Aqeedah is in the Quran. Many give you a thousand books and ignore numerous Ayat in the Quran. You will quote the Quran and other will quote their favorite scholars. Arabic language has metaphor, simile, hyperbole, analogy, rhetorical language. There are ahadith that affirm literal meanings of the Arabic and other ahadith that affirm metaphorical meanings. You find deviants and extremes in all of these groups. May Allah help us.
@@markward3981 I ask one of our ashari brothers about there aqida and wa Allah hi if you don't have background in kalam you will not understand any thing, the thing whit there aqida is not for layman any way they are our Muslim brother and sisters and may Allah guide them and guide us all
@@babahadjimohamed9339 I dont understand this statement Aqeedah is not for the layman . Aqeedah is in the Quran . Did the prophet salallahu alayhi wa salaam say Aqeedah is not for the layman.
a layman wouldn’t know that athari.. asha’ari n maturudi method of aqeedah existed… more like a layman just follow the basic rule that.. Allah is the only one we obey.. Allah has no partner… n Allah is diff n unique n can’t b compared with His creations.. the basic aqeedah that u got def not gonna b by urself.. eg if u r a born muslim.. usually u’ll b taught by ur parents abt the basic foundation of islam.. salah.. fasting etc… or ur parents might send u to an islamic centre… or if u r a convert or new to islam.. u either get help frm a muslim friend via the masjid or islamic centre … frm there u’ll learn abt salah.. fasting etc… u’ll only realise which or wat type or wat is the name of the aqeedah that u’ve been following after u’ve upgraded urself in terms of knowledge of islam…. eg.. the area that i was born is predominantly shafie madhab… frm small i learn how to salah.. read quran etc without knowing wat is the name of my aqeedah… later on in life only i knew.. n discover the other types of aqeeda… the aqeedah that i hv is asha’ari… asha’ari n maturudi r somewhat same n only hv few differences…. both use ta’weel in the approach of some ayat.. eg Allah’s yad (hand) interpreted as Allah’s power.. etc etc.. or just let the ayat as it is.. hv iman in it.. n don’t try to interpret them.. meanwhile athari take the ayat as literal n leave the how to Allah as only Allah can justify it to befits His majesty.. Allahu’alam…
Staying what way exactly? Do you affirm the sifat of Allah like Al Ashari or Al Bayhaqi? Or like Al razi? The Ash'ari creed isn't uniform from start to finish, you would call Al Bayhaqi and the early Ash'airah mujassima if you were to read their books.
@@iGridCreativeWorksMost laymen dont even know the creedal schools of thought. They are not even aware of the fact that taqleed in aqeedah is not allowed.
I don’t have any issues with Hanafi Fiqh.. there r some negligible differences.. but Among salafi imams, it is preached that for every Sunnah that you follow, you will be rewarded for it.. like Rafayaden is a Sunnah, standing toe to toe is a Sunnah similarly some other sunnahs. It’s best if a person can extract maximum rewards from his salahs by following all Sunnahs 1 major difference is that among salafis, the emphasis is that 1 should recite Surah fatiha in every rakah while praying in jamah, if u do not pray Surah fatiha, ur salah becomes invalid as it is very important and Allah responds to Surah Fatiha. Surah Fatiha is seen as a pillar. Allah knows best!
@@veiled.monotheist Salafis follow Hanbali fiqh. But if there is a Sahih Hadith that goes against Hanbali fiqh, we are told to follow the hadith and drop the teachings of the fiqhi Imam as Imam has forwarded whatever of knowledge and ahadith reached him. They say that, don’t do taqleed of any Imam. According to Salafi imams, actions in salah r divided into 3 categories, 1. Pillar (if u miss this, ur salah becomes invalid & u have to repeat it) 2. Fardh (if u miss this, you can make up for it towards the end of salah through Sajdah Sahu) 3. Sunnah (if u miss this, ur salah is valid & u don’t have to do sajdah sahu for it, but it is rewarding to follow Sunnah becuz the prophet did it) There is a detailed explanation video of prayer by Skeikh Assim Al Hakeem with references from Sahih ahadith. It is copied from a book called the prophet’s prayer
@@veiled.monotheistSister I got your point but your position on the meaning of Salafi is extreme and not even one that Salafis themselves follow. By that logic then that would mean anyone who isn't Salafi is not a Muslim. Salafis do not make takfir of those who oppose the Salafi manhaj as long as their errors don't reach the level of kufr. Therefore, such people will be deemed people of bidah, however, they still remain as Muslim.
@@veiled.monotheist According to muhammed ibn abdul wahabs son he says (when he got control of haramain ) We didn't invent new madhab rather we are hambalis we follow him except if there is multiple super clear cut ahaadiths then we leave the sayings of our imam. And in other places he says we have many differences with ibn taymiyyah
i’m following shafie madhab… in shafie madhab.. it’s wajib to recite surah al fatihah when u r in a congregation n in all of the rakaat based on hadith that salah is not complete without reciting al fatihah… n it’s wajib in our madhab… i know hanafi madhab chose the other hadith where rasullullah s.a.w forbade a sahaba to recite surah when he was reciting surah during salah as imam… usually in shafie madhab.. during salah (fajr.. maghrib & isha’).. the imam will pause for a while after he finished reciting al fatihah before continuing reciting another surah.. during this pause.. the jama’ah will recite al fatihah themselves..
@@suhaibsyed4152brother even imam abu haneefa said that when u get my opinion and a hadith against it choose the hadith. It is the problem of modern day hanafis who are not following imam abu hanifas principle. May allah guide them.
Is the following deduction correct?? Difference in fiqh == Madhaahib (resulted in the formation of the madhaahib) Difference in Aqeedah == sects (resulted in the formation of sects) I need a knowledge based response. Jazaakallahu khair
I don't believe that's really correct because they are different fields of knowledge entirely, so one could theoretically be of the same madhab but have a different understanding of aqidah. But the fact that we even have to ask such questions shows that discussions of aqidah are above your level & mine. So let's leave these deeply intellectual discussions to the scholars, rather than falling into pseudo-intellectualism & confusion.
Only Ashaari, Maturidi, Athari and Ahlul Hadith was identified as Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah during the World Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah Muktamar in Chechnya few years back. Wahabi Salafis aqidah is not part of Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah because their aqidah are the branches of mujassimah and musyabbihah.
I think you don't understand the criticisms that are levied against you. Nobody is criticizing your decision to adopt athari framework. The truth of the matter is. You are not an athari muffawid at all. You are a Taymi athari. In addition you as a hanafi muqalid reject hanafi fiqh on the go. As is commonplace with many self proclaimed hanafi Atharis (calling mawlid blameworthy biddah). And you probably also call isthighata with the prophet shirk/haram. Basic Salafi legalism. Top top it of. Whom do you consider being from the selef? What books do you take your creed from? U do know imam Ahmad is not from the selef (he never met a tabi). If u do claim him as being from the selef. U should be consistent and also apply that to imam al maturidi and imam al Ashari. And I did not even mention how athari methodology contradicts the methodology of the hanafi madhab (early and late). In the early period fiqh and aqeedah are intertwined. And their methodologies are still up to an extant. Your remark about hanafi being mutazili is superficial and you didn't even adress how the methodology played a part. Similarly the hanabila had many mujassima. Be silent if u dont know. U pretty much admitted that you were ignorant of the basics before you got influenced/indoctrinated by your Medina teacher.
What the hell does this guy mean the correct Ashari Aqeedah ? Ashari Aqeedah started only with Abu Hassan Al Ashari and Abu Mansur Maturidi and has nothing to do with the Aqeedah of the companions. The Ummah had to wait to understand Aqeedah till they came about 😂😂😂. Ashari are deviants full out and oppose the messenger
You calling Imam nawawi, Imam ghazali, Imam Suyuti, Imam bayhaqi, ibn Asakir, ibn hajar, ar Razi and others deviant.. these were giants of Islam.. probably be careful of calling people deviants.
@@G1NG3RRR What about countless other great imams who had the aqeedah of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaa? Scholars make mistakes, we are supposed to overlook those mistakes, not use them to justify misguidance. And no, imam Nawawi was not a innovator, but he made a mistake in his honest pursuit of truth.
@logician1234 The above were also from the ahlus sunnah wal jammah.. do you know what ahlus sunnah wal jamah means? Yes, I agree we overlook their mistakes like the mistakes of all scholars, even if they're from the salafi group. Who's misguidance are you referring to? And what is your proof that they were misguided? From the imams I stated you picked Imam Nawawi only.. no worries, now can you tell me where he made a mistake? According to which scholars of the OLD and NOTE?
@@G1NG3RRR They are from ahlul sunnah. Even though they had mistakes in aqeedah it doesn't take tham out of ahlul sunnah wal jamaa. I don't understand what you meant by 'even if they are from salafi group', did you imply I am somehow biased? Can you elaborate? I picked imam Nawawi as a symbol for all the scholars you listed. I love them and respect them and am in debt to them for the good they did. But they are not infallible. These scholars made a mistake of interpreting the atrributes of Allah partially. They did this in a way that is contrary to the way sahaba interpreted the attributes, which is to simply say we know the linguistic meaning of the attributes and we affirm them, but we don't delve into details not known to us.
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Don’t follow matuidi, Ashari etc…
Follow Allah his messenger with the understanding of the salaf and you will never go astray Beacuse they understood it the best and the prophet told us to follow them
Bro Hajji I recommend you check this jordanian sheikh out. He is also hanafi athari. حسام الحمايدة
hussaam al hamaydah is salafi hanafi
السلام عليكم ورحمه الله
It is important to understand 'correct' creed...as each aqeedah school has an extreme. Also Aqeedah is in the Quran. Many give you a thousand books and ignore numerous Ayat in the Quran. You will quote the Quran and other will quote their favorite scholars.
Arabic language has metaphor, simile, hyperbole, analogy, rhetorical language.
There are ahadith that affirm literal meanings of the Arabic and other ahadith that affirm metaphorical meanings.
You find deviants and extremes in all of these groups.
May Allah help us.
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Explain please
@@markward3981 salam allycom the athari creed there books full of Quran and Sunnah just to be clear
@@babahadjimohamed9339
The Ashari and Maturidi claim the same thing so why nog just believe in the Quran and Sunnah. And Allah knows best
@@markward3981 I ask one of our ashari brothers about there aqida and wa Allah hi if you don't have background in kalam you will not understand any thing, the thing whit there aqida is not for layman any way they are our Muslim brother and sisters and may Allah guide them and guide us all
@@babahadjimohamed9339
I dont understand this statement Aqeedah is not for the layman . Aqeedah is in the Quran . Did the prophet salallahu alayhi wa salaam say Aqeedah is not for the layman.
Does a layman need to have athari,maturidi or ashari aqeeda or can he just follow basic aqeeda from Quran and Sunnah?
You don't need to follow a creed aslong as you follow the five pillars of Islam and 6 pillars of faith.. that is sufficient for you, insha allah
a layman wouldn’t know that athari.. asha’ari n maturudi method of aqeedah existed… more like a layman just follow the basic rule that.. Allah is the only one we obey.. Allah has no partner… n Allah is diff n unique n can’t b compared with His creations..
the basic aqeedah that u got def not gonna b by urself.. eg if u r a born muslim.. usually u’ll b taught by ur parents abt the basic foundation of islam.. salah.. fasting etc… or ur parents might send u to an islamic centre… or if u r a convert or new to islam.. u either get help frm a muslim friend via the masjid or islamic centre … frm there u’ll learn abt salah.. fasting etc…
u’ll only realise which or wat type or wat is the name of the aqeedah that u’ve been following after u’ve upgraded urself in terms of knowledge of islam…. eg.. the area that i was born is predominantly shafie madhab… frm small i learn how to salah.. read quran etc without knowing wat is the name of my aqeedah… later on in life only i knew.. n discover the other types of aqeeda… the aqeedah that i hv is asha’ari…
asha’ari n maturudi r somewhat same n only hv few differences…. both use ta’weel in the approach of some ayat.. eg Allah’s yad (hand) interpreted as Allah’s power.. etc etc.. or just let the ayat as it is.. hv iman in it.. n don’t try to interpret them..
meanwhile athari take the ayat as literal n leave the how to Allah as only Allah can justify it to befits His majesty.. Allahu’alam…
Follow the salaf Quran and sunnah and a madhab
@@Oooooooo797 how to follow the salaf? I am following hanafi madhab as that according to salaf?
@@asadjavaid847you can follow safii Or hanbali
Alot of the great ulema are ashari and im staying that way
Agreed! The Asha'ira have giants in their creed!
Can u pliz elaborate? What is Ashari????
Staying what way exactly? Do you affirm the sifat of Allah like Al Ashari or Al Bayhaqi? Or like Al razi? The Ash'ari creed isn't uniform from start to finish, you would call Al Bayhaqi and the early Ash'airah mujassima if you were to read their books.
True, but dont mean I have to follow. There not a prophet
That's not a justification for anything.
The criteria is what the salaf were upon not the later scholars.
Assalamualekum brother, is it allow to do taqleed in Aqeedah?
و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته
No
@@BroHajji then why people follow different creeds?
@@iGridCreativeWorksMost laymen dont even know the creedal schools of thought. They are not even aware of the fact that taqleed in aqeedah is not allowed.
I don’t have any issues with Hanafi Fiqh.. there r some negligible differences.. but Among salafi imams, it is preached that for every Sunnah that you follow, you will be rewarded for it.. like Rafayaden is a Sunnah, standing toe to toe is a Sunnah similarly some other sunnahs. It’s best if a person can extract maximum rewards from his salahs by following all Sunnahs
1 major difference is that among salafis, the emphasis is that 1 should recite Surah fatiha in every rakah while praying in jamah, if u do not pray Surah fatiha, ur salah becomes invalid as it is very important and Allah responds to Surah Fatiha. Surah Fatiha is seen as a pillar. Allah knows best!
@@veiled.monotheist Salafis follow Hanbali fiqh. But if there is a Sahih Hadith that goes against Hanbali fiqh, we are told to follow the hadith and drop the teachings of the fiqhi Imam as Imam has forwarded whatever of knowledge and ahadith reached him. They say that, don’t do taqleed of any Imam.
According to Salafi imams, actions in salah r divided into 3 categories,
1. Pillar (if u miss this, ur salah becomes invalid & u have to repeat it)
2. Fardh (if u miss this, you can make up for it towards the end of salah through Sajdah Sahu)
3. Sunnah (if u miss this, ur salah is valid & u don’t have to do sajdah sahu for it, but it is rewarding to follow Sunnah becuz the prophet did it)
There is a detailed explanation video of prayer by Skeikh Assim Al Hakeem with references from Sahih ahadith. It is copied from a book called the prophet’s prayer
@@veiled.monotheistSister I got your point but your position on the meaning of Salafi is extreme and not even one that Salafis themselves follow. By that logic then that would mean anyone who isn't Salafi is not a Muslim. Salafis do not make takfir of those who oppose the Salafi manhaj as long as their errors don't reach the level of kufr. Therefore, such people will be deemed people of bidah, however, they still remain as Muslim.
@@veiled.monotheist According to muhammed ibn abdul wahabs son he says (when he got control of haramain )
We didn't invent new madhab rather we are hambalis we follow him except if there is multiple super clear cut ahaadiths then we leave the sayings of our imam.
And in other places he says we have many differences with ibn taymiyyah
i’m following shafie madhab… in shafie madhab.. it’s wajib to recite surah al fatihah when u r in a congregation n in all of the rakaat based on hadith that salah is not complete without reciting al fatihah… n it’s wajib in our madhab… i know hanafi madhab chose the other hadith where rasullullah s.a.w forbade a sahaba to recite surah when he was reciting surah during salah as imam… usually in shafie madhab.. during salah (fajr.. maghrib & isha’).. the imam will pause for a while after he finished reciting al fatihah before continuing reciting another surah.. during this pause.. the jama’ah will recite al fatihah themselves..
@@suhaibsyed4152brother even imam abu haneefa said that when u get my opinion and a hadith against it choose the hadith.
It is the problem of modern day hanafis who are not following imam abu hanifas principle.
May allah guide them.
Is the following deduction correct??
Difference in fiqh == Madhaahib (resulted in the formation of the madhaahib)
Difference in Aqeedah == sects (resulted in the formation of sects)
I need a knowledge based response.
Jazaakallahu khair
I don't believe that's really correct because they are different fields of knowledge entirely, so one could theoretically be of the same madhab but have a different understanding of aqidah.
But the fact that we even have to ask such questions shows that discussions of aqidah are above your level & mine. So let's leave these deeply intellectual discussions to the scholars, rather than falling into pseudo-intellectualism & confusion.
Only Ashaari, Maturidi, Athari and Ahlul Hadith was identified as Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah during the World Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah Muktamar in Chechnya few years back. Wahabi Salafis aqidah is not part of Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah because their aqidah are the branches of mujassimah and musyabbihah.
I think you don't understand the criticisms that are levied against you. Nobody is criticizing your decision to adopt athari framework. The truth of the matter is. You are not an athari muffawid at all. You are a Taymi athari. In addition you as a hanafi muqalid reject hanafi fiqh on the go. As is commonplace with many self proclaimed hanafi Atharis (calling mawlid blameworthy biddah). And you probably also call isthighata with the prophet shirk/haram. Basic Salafi legalism.
Top top it of. Whom do you consider being from the selef? What books do you take your creed from? U do know imam Ahmad is not from the selef (he never met a tabi). If u do claim him as being from the selef. U should be consistent and also apply that to imam al maturidi and imam al Ashari.
And I did not even mention how athari methodology contradicts the methodology of the hanafi madhab (early and late). In the early period fiqh and aqeedah are intertwined. And their methodologies are still up to an extant.
Your remark about hanafi being mutazili is superficial and you didn't even adress how the methodology played a part. Similarly the hanabila had many mujassima.
Be silent if u dont know. U pretty much admitted that you were ignorant of the basics before you got influenced/indoctrinated by your Medina teacher.
I came here thinking I was going to hear Sheikh Abdul Majeed explaining why he became athari.
Turned out it was a monologue from bro hajji
What the hell does this guy mean the correct Ashari Aqeedah ? Ashari Aqeedah started only with Abu Hassan Al Ashari and Abu Mansur Maturidi and has nothing to do with the Aqeedah of the companions. The Ummah had to wait to understand Aqeedah till they came about 😂😂😂. Ashari are deviants full out and oppose the messenger
You don't know what you're talking about.
You calling Imam nawawi, Imam ghazali, Imam Suyuti, Imam bayhaqi, ibn Asakir, ibn hajar, ar Razi and others deviant.. these were giants of Islam.. probably be careful of calling people deviants.
@@G1NG3RRR What about countless other great imams who had the aqeedah of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaa? Scholars make mistakes, we are supposed to overlook those mistakes, not use them to justify misguidance. And no, imam Nawawi was not a innovator, but he made a mistake in his honest pursuit of truth.
@logician1234 The above were also from the ahlus sunnah wal jammah.. do you know what ahlus sunnah wal jamah means?
Yes, I agree we overlook their mistakes like the mistakes of all scholars, even if they're from the salafi group.
Who's misguidance are you referring to? And what is your proof that they were misguided?
From the imams I stated you picked Imam Nawawi only.. no worries, now can you tell me where he made a mistake? According to which scholars of the OLD and NOTE?
@@G1NG3RRR They are from ahlul sunnah. Even though they had mistakes in aqeedah it doesn't take tham out of ahlul sunnah wal jamaa.
I don't understand what you meant by 'even if they are from salafi group', did you imply I am somehow biased? Can you elaborate?
I picked imam Nawawi as a symbol for all the scholars you listed. I love them and respect them and am in debt to them for the good they did.
But they are not infallible.
These scholars made a mistake of interpreting the atrributes of Allah partially. They did this in a way that is contrary to the way sahaba interpreted the attributes, which is to simply say we know the linguistic meaning of the attributes and we affirm them, but we don't delve into details not known to us.
Now I'm sure I'm gonna leave islam.
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@@Oooooooo797his a hindu “fakin” to be a muslim. Dw abt these trolls