Just started to get more interested in "official" software testing when I found this video..wow. What an educated slap in the face that was! Big thanks to him, I'll be a better tester now!
Never before this lecture I have been more convinced that academic success has a lot to do with the teacher. James Bach has the ability to make a TESTING SOFTWARE lecture than is 90 minutes long an incredibly interesting and engaging activity. Only if every teacher had an ability like that - the subject doesn't matter. It's the lecturer that makes it boring or interesting and engages his students!
I got into testing world around 5 months ago. I must admit that before i was too snob with testing because i was only "coding coding coding" and "who needs a tester" but after i searched and studied about it and worked on it i started loving testing and enjoying it so so much that I'm thinking to follow this path. I must also say that this lecture was really inspiring and motivating. It's not about the subject that is boring but about the teacher who makes the lecture boring and this guy right there is definitely not one of them. Great lecture!
Sharing my favorites part / notes. 0h29 Musashi Five Rings book - Tester use and master any tool or method needed, as fast learner 0h46: Calculator Test - Diagnostic Exercise 1h04: What is testing - Ultimate Detective Work Diagram 1h09: 4 Loops - Collaboration > Testing > Self Management > Learning 1h19: Why not Automate the Testing : Checking to support Testing 1h23: Analogy Testing with investigate for bugs in Kitchen 1h27: Bucaneer-Tester
Amazing content, James Bach is an absolute joy to listen to. He is able to engage so well with the audience and is always trying to be as most practical as possible.
He is a very good lecturer, I just wished my lecturers and my old uni was like that. He just keep you engaged all the time, I like hes lecturing style a lot!!
A man sharing his knowledge and who is passionate about what he does 😀. No interest in testing but I admire someone who pursues their passion and influences those around them.
Ah luckily James Bach has arrived and we got a revolution in testing. I hate people like this that are full of themselves and the IT industry is full of them.
tough crowd. Great talk! You really inspired me to get into this field.. I know some programming but never really liked to develop so I never really got into working at it. But what you said here really hits home for me so testing here I come!
Love his part about "unwritten requirements," as I see tons of testers really mess this concept up. With his example of a medical device stated to work at a certain voltage, there is an unwritten requirement of "quality" that is implied that it shouldn't blow up if it goes outside the voltage. We don't just blindly test requirements; requirements give us a guideline, but we need to really expand.and read BEYOND the lines to achieve a "quality" product.
Much better lecture than that other one. If the arrogance and irrelevant self-promotion is removed from this one, then it's pretty accurate for a partial look into software testing. And he's giving away some of my best "tricks".
I love this so much. Never have I ever related to something so much. It is a conquest indeed sir! They get butt hurt when I test their software but damnit do you want me to test it or not? I swear you explained exactly how I think and perceive things as a tester and no one else gets it...finally! Excellent talk, thank you! You should write another book!
I never got the impression that he was talking about anything but fuzz testing. When he talks about automated test tools I felt he was purely speaking from the context of fuzz testing, not unit testing and TDD. This is more integration and QA testing focused. Although I think he is also speaking from years of experience that probably started before TDD was as common. Even then TDD does not ensure bug free software.
I would pick the calculator up and turn it on. If it came to life I would do a quick 9 x 9 and see if it gave me 81 and then I would flex its case to see if the cct board was cracked and test it again with 22/7.
828kelvin the context menu has a option ... go to my pictures... via this the full screen mode was escaped... kiosk was probably unencrypted so access to command prompt would allow any one to execute any malicious code that can further destroy their system.
Answer to question at 49:00 1. Check your hands and see the ground to make sure the calculator is really dropped on the ground and no longer in your hands. 2. I would first do 2+2 to check if it is working. 3. The rest would be just the functionality-limit testing.
Great lecture! :D Can anyone tell me the communities I can join to build an international testing reputation? Im trying to determine what kind of blog articles are published by testers with a reputation. What information do they publish? Hope that anyone can help me out.
What if A is not given (enter ?), negative, zero, less than 70, 70, more than 70, a very large positive number, a very large negative number, a comma number, a word, different words, a special character (either dot or comma), and maybe more.
I am James Bach! I don't do anything except relentlessly promote myself and instantly dismiss anything that varies even minutely from my own narrow worldview! And incidentally have I mentioned that I am a high school dropout enough times?
Possibly the most valuable piece of information I took away from this is that it is physically infeasible for giant cockroaches to exist in our current environment. Now my mind is once again at ease.
You're wrong about one thing... Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing: About 271,000 results (0.31 seconds) Julius Caesar Software Testing: About 202,000 results (0.33 seconds) James Bach Software Testing: About 177,000 results (0.39 seconds)
What if a cat walks over the keyboard? What if input is null, True, -1 or a text string...or if there is a timeout on the input? What if the language isn't Pearl? What if the guy who drew the diagram heard the client wrong...then drew the diagram? What if alt F7 as an input causes a problem?
I only recently took the foundation ISTQB and joined the ranks as a tester, in UK. this videos is almost 11 years old, considering his stance on the general understanding/application of testing etc, have things changed?
this is beautiful. i just got my first job as a QA tester and i learned sooo much. I'd love to know the name of the course or where to find my material like this. if you know, kindly comment ;)
A lot of things learned in school, are useless in professional environment, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be learned. In fact, schools are there to put a layer. And then there's guy like you, that add something. So, play your role.
Awesome! My father used to be in charge of writing the software for all the store tills in WHSmith in the UK. When a developer came to him with a new release, he would load it up and them mash as many keys as possible at the same time. When it crashed he gave it back. The dev would look at him puzzled. It turns out that female checkout operators would lean over the till to scan products in a basket with a barcode wand (before scanners) and inadvertently mash the keys with their breasts which crashed the till. No joke this is true!
Studing testing atm, Im not going to be a tester we just learn to understand it. As a software developer, the more I learn about this the more I fear you guys :S. Ctrl + AC VV AC VV AC VV . Just a simple weapon and god I fear it :S
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This is still one of the best videos you can find regarding Software Testing!
Just started to get more interested in "official" software testing when I found this video..wow. What an educated slap in the face that was! Big thanks to him, I'll be a better tester now!
It is 2023 and this is still a great lecture!!!
This guy has contents of a tutorial with a mix of standup comedy and pinch of Ted Talks and its a perfect MASTERCLASS.
Never before this lecture I have been more convinced that academic success has a lot to do with the teacher. James Bach has the ability to make a TESTING SOFTWARE lecture than is 90 minutes long an incredibly interesting and engaging activity. Only if every teacher had an ability like that - the subject doesn't matter. It's the lecturer that makes it boring or interesting and engages his students!
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I got into testing world around 5 months ago. I must admit that before i was too snob with testing because i was only "coding coding coding" and "who needs a tester" but after i searched and studied about it and worked on it i started loving testing and enjoying it so so much that I'm thinking to follow this path. I must also say that this lecture was really inspiring and motivating. It's not about the subject that is boring but about the teacher who makes the lecture boring and this guy right there is definitely not one of them. Great lecture!
And to think I only listen to hime because I was to busy working
This man convinced me of his greatness...
Education needs people like this who are inspiring and proud of what they do.
Sharing my favorites part / notes.
0h29 Musashi Five Rings book - Tester use and master any tool or method needed, as fast learner
0h46: Calculator Test - Diagnostic Exercise
1h04: What is testing - Ultimate Detective Work Diagram
1h09: 4 Loops - Collaboration > Testing > Self Management > Learning
1h19: Why not Automate the Testing : Checking to support Testing
1h23: Analogy Testing with investigate for bugs in Kitchen
1h27: Bucaneer-Tester
Amazing content, James Bach is an absolute joy to listen to.
He is able to engage so well with the audience and is always trying to be as most practical as possible.
Great speaker!!! Great Person! Winderful material!!!
Inspiring! Clever! Motivating to become a great tester! Thank you James!
best video yet I've seen by him
I have respect for Mr. Bachs ability to form very accurate metaphors.
every tester should watch this once :) awesome :)
He is a very good lecturer, I just wished my lecturers and my old uni was like that. He just keep you engaged all the time, I like hes lecturing style a lot!!
Inspired me to keep forward and to become a good tester! Thank you!
This guy is hillarious. He is like software testing standup comedian! LoL
hahahahahahahah so true :D
This was awesome! This guy is an incredible speaker. I'll have to watch more of his work.
Excellent lecture few good points made and will use it.
That. Was. AMAZING!!!!
Thank you for sharing this!!!
I enjoyed this lecture with all of my heart! So skillful!
One of the best talks I ever saw. Both entertaining and insightful. A true master! Teach me Sensei! :D
This is highly correct and one of the better vidoes on software testing. Thumbs Up!
A man sharing his knowledge and who is passionate about what he does 😀. No interest in testing but I admire someone who pursues their passion and influences those around them.
The meeting is in Estonia. They dont laugh much, it is normal for Scandinavian nations. But dude was funny!
Estonia is not Scandinavian
@@jennasloan396 I laughed lots :-)
@@jennasloan396 pppp
I love lectures like that.
P.S When I'm drunk I speak the same way)
haha man u r too funny
The best advice about testing I've heard so far.
This video makes me feel proud of being a tester!! ya'y
wonderful lecture on different aspects of software testing
Thank you for your work!
Ah luckily James Bach has arrived and we got a revolution in testing. I hate people like this that are full of themselves and the IT industry is full of them.
Entertaining and fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
tough crowd. Great talk! You really inspired me to get into this field.. I know some programming but never really liked to develop so I never really got into working at it. But what you said here really hits home for me so testing here I come!
+PIneapple29 the fact that he just told them the classes they are taking are useless probably has something to do with it
Love his part about "unwritten requirements," as I see tons of testers really mess this concept up. With his example of a medical device stated to work at a certain voltage, there is an unwritten requirement of "quality" that is implied that it shouldn't blow up if it goes outside the voltage. We don't just blindly test requirements; requirements give us a guideline, but we need to really expand.and read BEYOND the lines to achieve a "quality" product.
This video really cleared up my thought process of quality testing
Much better lecture than that other one. If the arrogance and irrelevant self-promotion is removed from this one, then it's pretty accurate for a partial look into software testing. And he's giving away some of my best "tricks".
So GREAT lecture! Thank you so much for this! Great speech
I love this so much. Never have I ever related to something so much. It is a conquest indeed sir! They get butt hurt when I test their software but damnit do you want me to test it or not? I swear you explained exactly how I think and perceive things as a tester and no one else gets it...finally! Excellent talk, thank you! You should write another book!
I never got the impression that he was talking about anything but fuzz testing. When he talks about automated test tools I felt he was purely speaking from the context of fuzz testing, not unit testing and TDD. This is more integration and QA testing focused. Although I think he is also speaking from years of experience that probably started before TDD was as common. Even then TDD does not ensure bug free software.
I would pick the calculator up and turn it on. If it came to life I would do a quick 9 x 9 and see if it gave me 81 and then I would flex its case to see if the cct board was cracked and test it again with 22/7.
OMG!!!!!! My favorite QA video!!!! I absolutely love this dude!
this should be the first video that shows up when you search software QA
If this isn't the most educational speech on software testing ever, I don't know what is
It's tough to operate at this energy level. How do you avoid burnout & not go communication free for a week after holding such a high energy lecture
it is so hard to listen him at the first half. the second part is brilliant.
39:06 sorry I still don't really understand how has he broke into the system, any could explain on this?
828kelvin the context menu has a option ... go to my pictures... via this the full screen mode was escaped... kiosk was probably unencrypted so access to command prompt would allow any one to execute any malicious code that can further destroy their system.
Actually, I regret my previous comment - this is the second video with J. Bach that I've watched and the man really knows a lot about testing.
Answer to question at 49:00
1. Check your hands and see the ground to make sure the calculator is really dropped on the ground and no longer in your hands.
2. I would first do 2+2 to check if it is working.
3. The rest would be just the functionality-limit testing.
Great lecture! :D Can anyone tell me the communities I can join to build an international testing reputation?
Im trying to determine what kind of blog articles are published by testers with a reputation.
What information do they publish?
Hope that anyone can help me out.
Hey. I'm working on some material that you may find helpful. Let me know if interested.
ministry of testing community
Where are the blog links at? Fine... I will google you...
Superb presentation on incompetence and sloppines of academia
Its free and its informative ... good for inspiring
Просто превосходно ! Очень интересно рассказывает !
What if A is not given (enter ?), negative, zero, less than 70, 70, more than 70, a very large positive number, a very large negative number, a comma number, a word, different words, a special character (either dot or comma), and maybe more.
I am James Bach! I don't do anything except relentlessly promote myself and instantly dismiss anything that varies even minutely from my own narrow worldview! And incidentally have I mentioned that I am a high school dropout enough times?
Thank you so much! This is AMAZING!!!
one of the best lectures
Testing runs through your veins. Test Bach !
Possibly the most valuable piece of information I took away from this is that it is physically infeasible for giant cockroaches to exist in our current environment. Now my mind is once again at ease.
Was the calculator working before you dropped it? How far did it drop? What did it drop on?
I've just learned a lot now. Great lecture.
You're wrong about one thing...
Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing: About 271,000 results (0.31 seconds)
Julius Caesar Software Testing: About 202,000 results (0.33 seconds)
James Bach Software Testing: About 177,000 results (0.39 seconds)
I got different results
James Bach Software Testing 196 000 (0,54 s)
Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing 162 000 (0,43 s)
Julius Caesar Software Testing 74 800 (0,53 s)
I love this guy.
What if a cat walks over the keyboard? What if input is null, True, -1 or a text string...or if there is a timeout on the input? What if the language isn't Pearl? What if the guy who drew the diagram heard the client wrong...then drew the diagram? What if alt F7 as an input causes a problem?
Good lecture - solid principles. But nothing wrong with ISTQB. Good for testers to see both sides of the coin.
so true. I always call it ying AND yang
Thank you James
I only recently took the foundation ISTQB and joined the ranks as a tester, in UK.
this videos is almost 11 years old, considering his stance on the general understanding/application of testing etc,
have things changed?
Seems like he didn't exactly fill up the lecture hall.
I'm a tester right now, i really don't wanna end up like this
#nooffense
+CerealKiller Too right. Real testers don't have beards.
"They dont love you, like i love you" xDDD lol
Incredible video.. thank you.
How can you not like what James is saying about testing???
Who he criticized at the begining? i didn't understand
Fun software testing tips. Thanks!
Quote: "Bigggg Tester, smashing cupcakes"
easy and brilliant
and I want share this not typical article itechcraft.com/testing/ for people who not understand why testing is so important
Лена О Thanks. This is an interesting point of view.
Do you have to know coding, programming, programming languages to go into testing?
Not but its always a plus.
Interesting things about testing. A must!
Does anybody know about the communities he mentioned that could help a beginner tester?
I was there :) Great guy, really liked his lecture
very usefull lecture. Thanks
Dude, this guy is AWESOME!
only perfect man would be grateful if he will point out errors =)
a good lecturer that isn't boring :)
this is beautiful. i just got my first job as a QA tester and i learned sooo much. I'd love to know the name of the course or where to find my material like this. if you know, kindly comment ;)
so hows things on the job?
It's a good lecture, but why he didn't give any useful pieces of advice for QA engineers?
que buen video. Lo vi hasta el final y sin entender al 100% el ingles, imaginense que yo, ni en español leo algo hasta el final.
what a powerful speaker
A lot of things learned in school, are useless in professional environment, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be learned. In fact, schools are there to put a layer. And then there's guy like you, that add something. So, play your role.
What was that with hacking the system via right click on the picture in IE? *facepalm*
Excellent lecture
does anyone knows or under stands what he meant by "predicate testing"??
it was very interesting lecture
I wish I was there LOL. Two test cases are you crazy.
Awesome! My father used to be in charge of writing the software for all the store tills in WHSmith in the UK. When a developer came to him with a new release, he would load it up and them mash as many keys as possible at the same time. When it crashed he gave it back. The dev would look at him puzzled. It turns out that female checkout operators would lean over the till to scan products in a basket with a barcode wand (before scanners) and inadvertently mash the keys with their breasts which crashed the till. No joke this is true!
2 unicorns to the power of pi
Equals an infinite amount of unicorns
Is his shirt black or white?
This professor is a great !!!
Studing testing atm, Im not going to be a tester we just learn to understand it. As a software developer, the more I learn about this the more I fear you guys :S. Ctrl + AC VV AC VV AC VV . Just a simple weapon and god I fear it :S
Isn't anyone worried that he thinks giant cockroach will talk, assuming giant cockroach exists