Arctic Cooling MX-6 VS TG Kryonaut Extreme TIM

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024

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  • @Radek__
    @Radek__ Год назад +41

    the more important thing (than temperature micro differences) is HOW LONG the paste will stay wet to keep the same results after few months.
    some guys on forums say than thermal grizzly become dry too early / fast.
    and you all people, talking only about degrees during first hours after apply.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад +17

      TG Kryonaut extreme has been on my 2080 ti for almost a year now running Folding@home 24/7 (every 3 months I take the card out to dust it off) and temperatures remain the same.
      Take what you read on forums with a grain of salt, since human error is also a factor to consider. I can tell you from experience this paste is real good! Running a card 24/7 for a year could cause the stock paste to lose its thermal conductivity faster than under normal operations, i.e. 5 hours at full load per day.
      Take this as you will 👍.

    • @guily6669
      @guily6669 11 месяцев назад +3

      I have used MX-2 and MX-3 for like 4 or 5 years and still had some parts liquid, I always enjoyed MX series and I'm currently using MX-6 but still haven't opened it to see it's state.
      But I had troubles with MX-5, totally don't recommend it and the entire syringe of it is garbage and I can't even use it while I have a big syringe of MX-4 for a HUGE amount of years and it still looks the same as day one out of the syringe and still use it nowadays and still performs fine...

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@guily6669 MX-4 is an excellent product. I still use it.

    • @Radek__
      @Radek__ 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@TechnologyHive oh I disagree. Today I had issues with i9-12900ks, high temp, restarts. so I took out the water pump and what I saw? Dry thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme (that pink one) - so after 1,5year it become dry.
      this confirms what some people is saying about thermal grizzly that it is the best but dry fast.
      Now I comeback to arctic. I never saw dry mx-2 or mx-4. Never. So this time I applied mx-6.
      but I'm done with thermal grizzly. it is designed more for overclockers who are often changing CPUs

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Radek__ Dry thermal paste does not mean "bad" thermal paste. Most TIM will dry and remain thermally conductive. If you look at pastes from Dow Corning, used on Intel and AMD cpu's as well as many GPU board partners, this paste dries relatively quick but remains thermally conductive throughout the lifespan of the CPU or GPU.
      Of course a fresh application of TIM will always help, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the solution to the problem. My RTX 2080 (and little Pentium G6505 which I have delidded and applied Kryonaut Extreme now going for almost a year and a half) run 24-7 at full load doing Folding @home. Temperatures remain exactly the same as when first applied.
      Now, I do not know if you run your PC at full load 24-7 so I can not begin to guess what may actually be the problem in your case. Maybe bad contact when you mounted the cooler or poor TIM application. I don't know. But dry TIM does not mean its bad. Common misconception.

  • @latinlowrider59
    @latinlowrider59 4 месяца назад +5

    Very satisfying that you did everything so methodically and properly. Great Job!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  4 месяца назад

      I appreciate that. Thank you 🙂

    • @Michal1982Michal1982
      @Michal1982Michal1982 13 дней назад

      But you must admit that this graphic card plugging was pain to watch. 🤣

  • @d4nith3
    @d4nith3 8 месяцев назад +9

    Im coming back to this video with my experience. My Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut dried out after 6 months on a Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Now i used Kryonaut Extreme the red one and my temps are the following with an Arctic A-35 RGB cooler: with the dried out paste( 42°C idle, 64°C-68°C gaming)
    New paste: 36°C idle, 56°C gaming. Room temp 23°C.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  8 месяцев назад +3

      The extreme version should last for years. Even dry this paste remains thermally conductive 👍🏼

  • @mitchell4139
    @mitchell4139 10 месяцев назад +28

    Arctic mx 6 needs to be broken in for a couple hours for max performance, which would seem to say it’s better if grizzly is only 1-2 degrees ahead out the gate. I had mx 4 on my cpu for around 4 years averaging 12 hours a day gaming and still looked like the day I put it in when I finally changed it.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  10 месяцев назад +7

      I do not find this information on the Arctic Cooling website indicating MX-6 needs a few hours of curing for max performance. Perhaps you'd be kind and point us where you got this information? I'd appreciate it!
      Like you, I like MX-4! It is a great product!

    • @BareKragujevdza
      @BareKragujevdza 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TechnologyHive This is mostly unofficial, but I quit remember this scenario from old times, and mostly for generic pastes, you apply it, use office, internet, blah, blah, and just few days later temps drop down, I personally seen it so many times....

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@BareKragujevdza Are you talking about curing? Because that is no longer the case with new pastes.

    • @BareKragujevdza
      @BareKragujevdza 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@TechnologyHive right, I remember the old pastes, it took really few days, on idle use to cure it, do not know new pastes, just now ordered mx-6! I decided to stick with mx-6 as I plan to not to re-apply it for some longer times...

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@BareKragujevdza You will be happy with MX-6. 👍

  • @shocknonstop521
    @shocknonstop521 3 месяца назад +5

    important information starts at 14:30.

  • @TrevorCut611
    @TrevorCut611 8 месяцев назад +5

    I just want to say THANK YOU for using the X method when screwing the cooler back on.

  • @JacopoFranco
    @JacopoFranco Год назад +13

    ±1 degree falls definitely into acceptable process variance I assume. In the uk, 8gr of mx-6 are about 11£, while 30gr of extreme are over 110£. Not worth it by any stretch unless you are using nitrogen and require the extra properties of extreme.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад +1

      Very well said. This is the same reason why I don't recommend TG kryonaut extreme unless you're an extreme overclocker. It is expensive. For me, MX-4 or MX-6 is enough 🙂.

    • @kaytrell
      @kaytrell 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well, even MX6 is not cheap - so between MX6 and something else, I would always go for Prolimatect PK3

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  11 месяцев назад

      @@kaytrell PK3 is a good paste 👍

  • @Spartan536
    @Spartan536 Месяц назад +2

    1. Excellent paste work, I do the same thing, manually spread out the paste as evenly as possible ensure the best thermal contact and minimize air pocketing, this is the superior method bar none.
    2. I also appreciate the the cross-screw installation of the cooler, I also use this method as it helps with ensuring even pressures on the cold plate.
    3. Your testing methodology was sound for being a generic test that is easily reproduceable from an end user standpoint, this makes the data you provided very valuable
    Based on the results I would strongly recommend Arctic MX-6, it looks like it spreads MUCH EASIER than TG Kryonaut Extreme and the Amazon price differences are MASSIVE. TG Kryonaut Extreme is currently $21.99 for 2 grams, where as Arctic MX-6 is currently $6.99 for 4 grams (prices on Amazon as of 7/20/2024).
    Now where TG Kryonaut Extreme IS the clear winner is where its designed, for extreme cooling solutions like liquid nitrogen/helium, its specifically formulated to operate in those kinds of extreme environments, hence the name.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Месяц назад

      For the money and performance, MX-6 all the way. But if you want that little bit extra 1-2 degrees, or you're an extreme overclocker, TG Kryonaut Extreme would be my choice. I am not an extreme overclocker, so MX-6 is what I buy the most for my cards. Great thermal paste. Thanks for points you make btw.

  • @d4nith3
    @d4nith3 Год назад +14

    In EU i can buy Kryonaut Extreme in a 2g tube for 20€ so u dont need to buy this big red one for 70€

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад +1

      Here in Norway you can buy both. At the time when I bought this one, it was the only option available. The smaller tubes had not come out on the market yet. But it is nice to see it available in smaller amounts now. :)

    • @Slycoon89
      @Slycoon89 5 месяцев назад

      20$ for 2g? i can get 4g for 5.90$ here in switzerland xD

    • @d4nith3
      @d4nith3 5 месяцев назад

      @Slycoon89 since than price dropped to 16€

    • @Slycoon89
      @Slycoon89 5 месяцев назад

      @@d4nith3 oh wait a second, you were talking about the grizzly, i am dumb asf xD the price and grams i mentioned above are for the artic haha. But still for the grizzly here i would pay 21.90.- for 5.50g. So 16.- for 2g is still a bit high priced imo

    • @d4nith3
      @d4nith3 5 месяцев назад

      @Slycoon89 e everything has high price in the world right now so don't be surprised. RTX4090 Strix for 2100+€ and so on...

  • @wc-ente
    @wc-ente 2 месяца назад +2

    I have the Kryonaut Extreme for my 13900KS and i love this paste

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 месяца назад +1

      @@wc-ente It's good stuff. I like it too 🙂

  • @paul2609
    @paul2609 Год назад +10

    I tried Kryonaut on two different CPUs and they tend to dry out after ~6 months in use and temp increases by like 10 degrees C.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад +9

      I've been running my 2080 in a rig for 20/7 folding@home with kryonaut extreme for almost a year, and temps are the same as day one. Also, the little pentium cpu in this machine is delidded and I used kryonaut extreme as well. Temps are the same as when I applied it.
      There is a misconception I believe that needs to be addressed about thermal pastes. Just because a thermal paste application "dried up" does not mean it is no longer thermally conductive.
      I all depends on the particular composition of the paste. Some dry and stop being thermally conductive. Others dry and continue to work as day one because of the particles that make up the TIM itself.
      Dow Corning is the brand used by most cpu and gpu manufacturers, not because it is the best in terms of thermal conductivity. But it is preferred because of its composition, and despite it drying it remains thermally conductive for years.
      Bottom line is, it all depends on the particular make up of the paste in question that determines whether it will continue being thermally conductive after years of operation. Dry or not.

    • @guily6669
      @guily6669 11 месяцев назад

      I also didn't like Kryonaut soon my temps went higher on the old Strix RX480 and on my modded Nintendo Switch also started having higher temps than what it used to when applying in little time.
      I always had better results and value with MX series though I had a defective MX-5 that almost killed my RX480, it's the only MX that I don't recommend. I use since MX-2 and any of them are pretty good for me and some stayed even slightly liquid after 5 years with MX-2 and MX-3...

    • @enriquereyes660
      @enriquereyes660 8 месяцев назад

      I tried too kryonaut extreme but gets dry to early so, What thermal paste do you use now? Which one do you recommend? I was thinking to try the simple kryonaut

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 6 месяцев назад

      Kyronaut is not the same as kryonaut extreme so maybe the extreme lasts longer

  • @ubeydeeser
    @ubeydeeser 3 месяца назад +2

    Hi,
    I'm torn between MX-6 and Grizzly Extreme, I'm undecided, I have a 7600X processor, Extreme is on my mind, will it be the right choice?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 месяца назад +1

      Go for TG Kryonaut Extreme. 👍🏼

  • @Moltenlava
    @Moltenlava 2 месяца назад +2

    Looks like I'll go for the MX-6 after all, seems to offer more paste for roughly the same price as the Kryonaut (not extreme) in my region

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 месяца назад +1

      @Moltenlava I think you'll be happy with it. It is good paste after all.

  • @duskyjackal1699
    @duskyjackal1699 6 месяцев назад +2

    For me, i had to repaste my laptop after replacing the fans myself. The sad part was, to get to the fans, you had to lift the whole cooling system up which pulled apart all of the contact points to the GPU and CPU chips.
    It was so hard to find a paste that wasnt electrically conductive that might short out the GPU.
    MX6 is mighty good for that. I slapped it everywhere and closed that sucker up. That was provably a 6 months ago.
    Does my laptop still yet hot when gaming? Yes it does. But i dont regret using it.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  6 месяцев назад

      Laptops run hot no matter what. But your GPU/CPU will thank you in the long run.

  • @muhammet88889
    @muhammet88889 2 месяца назад +1

    İ have a Asus tuf gaming f15 fx506hm-hn114, rtx3060 laptop. Which is better? Mx-6,mx-4, thermal grizzly krynoaut? Or?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 месяца назад

      I'd go with MX-6 for any laptop. It will not pump out and has great thermal conductivity.

    • @pisiciculapte4251
      @pisiciculapte4251 15 дней назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive thanks, same laptop, same problem

  • @OryNce
    @OryNce 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have a Ryzen 5 4600H laptop, which is better?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  6 месяцев назад +1

      I would use MX-6. It is cheaper, and performs similar.

  • @p4radigm989
    @p4radigm989 3 месяца назад +1

    good test.
    I like the Grizzly because of the can and spatula, performance seems a touch better, but not much, so both pastes are great and it really comes down to price, which I assume Arctic will win. Grizzly is great but usually very expensive, so only really good for extreme OC and people who can throw cash at stuff.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 месяца назад

      That's exactly it. I prefer MX-6 for my personal hardware. 👍🏼

  • @luisescobedoom2053
    @luisescobedoom2053 Месяц назад +1

    I have a rx 5700 xt the hotspot temps are 15-20c hotter than the outer die temps and i recently changed the paste and no difference thats using mx-4 and i think the cause is from a thermal paste pumpout.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Месяц назад

      Check your heatsink/core contact. Perhaps the contact is not good.

  • @901ThaTruth
    @901ThaTruth 10 месяцев назад +1

    I wanted to know if you could do a test on replacing the thermal paste on a steam deck. With Kryonaut extreme.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  10 месяцев назад

      If I owned one I would be more than happy to. Perhaps I will get one in for repair, then I can use it to make a video.

    • @901ThaTruth
      @901ThaTruth 10 месяцев назад

      That sounds good appreciate it!

  • @bladereflection1642
    @bladereflection1642 8 месяцев назад +2

    i bought some mx-6 to replace the tim on the nzxt kraken that comes pre applied.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  8 месяцев назад +1

      Let us know how it goes in time. 👍

  • @pm110978
    @pm110978 15 дней назад

    how often do you recommend to replace the MX6 on my CPU?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  15 дней назад

      @pm110978 I'd say 5 years. Although it depends on an individual basis. MX-6 is supposed to follow MX-4 in longevity. That's 8 years.

    • @pm110978
      @pm110978 15 дней назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive Thanks for the response 👍

  • @aryannarose
    @aryannarose 9 месяцев назад +5

    Would have loved to see you apply it to the CPU I was leaning towards Arctic MX-6.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  9 месяцев назад

      I usually don't test over ihs. I like to test direct on die. Just seems to give better results.

  • @ДаниилБахман
    @ДаниилБахман 11 месяцев назад +2

    To see the real difference you should tets it on very hot chips like 3080ti, 4090, 6800/7900xt etc. 12th 13th intel processors. And every thermal paste will show real results after 1 week

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  11 месяцев назад +1

      This is why I locked the fan speed to a static value, to allow the chip to get hotter than it would under normal circumstances. 👍

    • @guily6669
      @guily6669 11 месяцев назад +1

      And in those case of tests the frequency also needs to be logged cause it's always fluctuating and can keep the same exact temp with 2 very different thermal pastes but have much stable clocks instead...

    • @tradingnichols2255
      @tradingnichols2255 7 месяцев назад

      Correct, and based on other comments of the video maker, they never varied and were monitored. @@guily6669

  • @raulgrangeiro
    @raulgrangeiro Месяц назад +1

    Another great test and video. Would you be able to compare these to Cooler Master Cryofuze?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Месяц назад +1

      @@raulgrangeiro I have gotten so many other requests for other products. I'll see if I can find the time 🙂.

    • @raulgrangeiro
      @raulgrangeiro Месяц назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive thanks, friend. I'm asking about it because it's a newer product from Cooler Master and it has (at least on paper) better conductivity than the other two.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Месяц назад +1

      @@raulgrangeiro I'll look into it 😉

  • @abusamu2868
    @abusamu2868 4 месяца назад +1

    does the thermalright tfx good? i want to use it to my gtx 980ti

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes. It is good stuff. I'd liken it to MX-4.

    • @abusamu2868
      @abusamu2868 4 месяца назад

      @@TechnologyHive can i get a 75° or lower with it? (my gpu consume 250-300w)

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  4 месяца назад +1

      @@abusamu2868 I do not know. You will just have to try it.

    • @abusamu2868
      @abusamu2868 4 месяца назад

      @@TechnologyHive ok, if it is thermal grizly?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  4 месяца назад +1

      @@abusamu2868 If you want the best, either go with MX-6 or Kryonaut Extreme. I'd recommend the latter, as it has performed real well in all my tests.

  • @tradingnichols2255
    @tradingnichols2255 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did you do Mx4 2nd because it lasts longer?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  7 месяцев назад

      I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean? I tested all under same parameters. 🙂

    • @tradingnichols2255
      @tradingnichols2255 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think you answered my question to someone else: @TechnologyHive
      1 month ago
      The extreme version should last for years. Even dry this paste remains thermally conductive 👍🏼

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  7 месяцев назад +1

      @tradingnichols2255 Ah I see. Glad you got your answer 🙂. Thanks for watching btw. It really helps the channel.

    • @tradingnichols2255
      @tradingnichols2255 7 месяцев назад

      Well, I know that Mx4 lasts a long time, so part of me wondered if you tested this 2nd because it'll do great going forward, assuming you run it that way for years. MX4, based on me being a consumer of content and talking to friends who have used it a long time, is that it is very endurable for 24x7 use. I use it when I repaste GPU's because of this as my business has continuous load unless something goes wrong, like a blip in internet or what not.@@TechnologyHive

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  7 месяцев назад +1

      @tradingnichols2255 I see what you mean. I didn't paste the gpu in any particular order for any reason. It just happened to work out that way 🙂.
      I have used MX-4 for many years, and it's proven a winner 🏆 for me. You're absolutely right on that.

  • @MadRabbit92
    @MadRabbit92 8 месяцев назад +1

    Have you made sure that coreclocks didn’t fluctuate and were constant 1100mhz the entire time? Otherwise this test was useless.
    Thanks for sharing. Cheers.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  8 месяцев назад

      Yes. Clocks were consistent the entire time.👍

  • @Meszo09
    @Meszo09 11 месяцев назад +2

    Make test on a CPU and GPU with Thermal Grizzly, MX-6 and Alphacool Apex ;) please.

  • @Rohambili
    @Rohambili 6 месяцев назад +1

    wtf? Mx series why would be top? You never heard of prolimatech PK-3....?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  6 месяцев назад

      I made a video with Prolimatech PK-3. You will find it in my channel.

  • @PyromancerRift
    @PyromancerRift 7 месяцев назад

    On a practical stand point, i can see this test being usefull. But on a pure performance stand point using a 100w GPU is a massive flaw. You need to make the TIM the bottleneck of the test to realy see if there is a performance gap. I think by using a really hot GPU with a gigachad cooler is the way to go. A cooler that will be able to dissipate every watt you throw at it and a GPU that need to dissipate a lot of heat. Otherwise every paste will give you 71c because even mayonaise can transfer that much heat.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  7 месяцев назад

      100w or 400w, the heat transfer will be the same. It's like saying liquid metal will work better at transferring 400w of heat vs 100w. It's no flaw when you can actually measure the difference. Thanks for watching anyway 👍🏼.

  • @GoldenEagle0007
    @GoldenEagle0007 Год назад +5

    noctue nt-h2 next 😊

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад +3

      Hehe I'll add it to the list.

    • @goorthiss
      @goorthiss 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TechnologyHive Try out Phase Change Material (PCM) like Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1. And instead of thermopads on vrams and power sections, thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  11 месяцев назад

      @@goorthiss Thanks I'll look into it :)

  • @markhovscrch4050
    @markhovscrch4050 7 месяцев назад +1

    From HY510 my Junction reach 91*c on high settings on CSGO and changing into MX-6 now my Junction just go 87*c good performance.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  7 месяцев назад

      MX-6 is good stuff. I'm not surprised!

  • @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial
    @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial 2 дня назад

    Essa MX-6 é uma bosta... 3 meses após aplicação o hotspot da minha placa de vídeo batendo 105graus... um lixo... ao abrir a placa pra trocar a pasta, verifiquei que a mesma tinha "derretido"... não recomendo!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 дня назад

      I have never had any issues with MX-6. This sounds user related.

    • @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial
      @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial День назад

      @@TechnologyHive o que é bom pra uns pode não ser bom para outros... certamente o controle de qualidade ai nos EUA deve ser outro... porque aqui no Brasil há muita falsificação... ou má qualidade!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  День назад

      @@rodrigorochapatriotaoficial That is probably the case. You may have gotten some counterfeit stuff.

    • @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial
      @rodrigorochapatriotaoficial День назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive hoje apliquei a Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme, vamos ver quanto tempo aguenta!
      Já apliquei a Grizzly Kryonaut comum... durou 8 meses, só troquei porque abri o PC para limpar, aproveitei e troquei thermalpads e a pasta térmica... certamente iria durar pelo menos 1 ano e meio ou mais!

  • @monacocross4241
    @monacocross4241 10 месяцев назад +1

    MX-6 WIN ?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  10 месяцев назад +1

      I would say it is a tie.

    • @monacocross4241
      @monacocross4241 10 месяцев назад

      @@TechnologyHive MEYBE BMW

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 10 месяцев назад +4

      for a daily use - yes, for max performance on very demanding chips - nope, not even close, kryo extreme wins

    • @teus8964
      @teus8964 8 месяцев назад

      @@divinehatred6021 should i buy an mx6 or kryo for an hungry 980TI founders (yep the one with cooling capacity of an brick) ?

  • @MrSubMD
    @MrSubMD 6 месяцев назад

    flip that radiator!