Thank you for making this complex topic accessible for laymen like me, who lack theological training. I am continually in awe of the beauty and depth of our faith: Our Lord's institution of the sacrament of the Eucharist at the pascal meal in anticipation of His Crucification is genius, for lack of a better term.
@@progidy7 I am particularly moved by how the Last Supper, wherein Our Lord instituted the Eucharist, is a prefigurement of the unbloody sacrifice at Cavalry offered at every Mass. I guess it is not surprising, given that Our Lord has perfect knowledge; yet I am still in awe at this symmetry.
Thank you Father! Regarding to this episode, I always have a question. Since after the resurrection, the Eucharistic body of Christ is his glorified body, while at the last supper when Jesus had not been crucified and resurrected yet, the very own body that he was holding on his hands should be his original body of that moment? And therefore I’m not sure whether they are the same kind of substance from a chronological perspective, precisely speaking, the body and blood at the last supper, and the body and blood after Jesus’s resurrection, a full presence of the risen Christ in a radically unique way.
I heard a priest say that in the Eucharist we receive the resurrected body of Christ, because it's spiritual and edifying, as opposed to receive a regression, the human flesh that is just meat.
Forgive me, but this doesn't make sense. Jesus is both fully God and fully man. He wasn't merely a man prior to the resurrection; He was fully God on the cross. Even that aside, a human body is never just meat. We are just as much our bodies as we are our souls rather than spirits driving around in meat vehicles or trapped in meat prisons. Even in death, when our soul is separated from our body, our flesh is still part of what makes us what we are, human, and thus is to be treated with dignity and respect. Not to mention the fact that God will reunite our spirits with our bodies when He returns rather than leave us to exist as only spiritual beings like the angels for eternity. So, no, I cannot see how the physical body of the God man as he suffered on the cross for our sins or at any time for that matter could ever be considered just meat. I hope this doesn't come off as rude; I certainly don't mean to offend you. It's just that this doesn't seem to fit with any of the theology that I am aware of. Anyway, God bless you. I hope you have a really wonderful week.
@catholicmurph7707 Thanks for your reply. I'm looking for the Truth. The question is what body are we receiving in the Eucharist? Jesus had 2 very different bodies. One was human and fragile. The second one, resurrected and glorious. We agree whats edifying is the Spirit. John 6:63. We want to receive the Eucharist searching for Life not death. God bless you.
@BaronAna Oh, I am so excited to have a real conversation with someone who also enjoys asking deep questions. I don't think there should be any fear of seeking and certainly not finding death in the Eucharist, as Christ said Himself, "I am the bread of life." But to answer your question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church has this to say, "What material food produces in our bodily life, Holy Communion wonderfully achieves in our spiritual life. Communion with the flesh of the risen Christ, a flesh “given life and giving life through the Holy Spirit,”* preserves, increases, and renews the life of grace received at Baptism. This growth in Christian life needs the nourishment of Eucharistic Communion, the bread for our pilgrimage until the moment of death, when it will be given to us as viaticum." - The Sacrament of the Eucharist, CCC 1392 So, yes. The Eucharist is the ressurected body of Christ.
Glad you asked. Jesus says this in John 6:53 among other places. It is riddled throughout the scriptures. It's also how nearly all Christians believed and worshipped for the first 1500 years of Christianity. Plus, you can read the writing of the Church fathers.
But why do we need the passion to be present to us today? The Historical moment is ever present in heaven in the Holy of Holies. From there we receive graces.
@therighteousrighthand Christ is not crucified again and again at every mass.. as your analogy wrongfully implies. Things like this are precisely the reason Jesus gave authority to the Catholic Church and NOT the individual. The Church interprets and decides on these matters, not the individual.
@@quitgoogle2534 I agree with Church authority and that my analogy is slightly off. but just trying to understand. So he says the sacrifice is extended or stretched from 33 BC to 2024., am I correct? It's like saying birthing act is stretched as if it is still ongoing and you were not really born. Or one is born but mommy holding the baby scene is stretched.
@@therighteousrighthandThere is just the one sacrifice, but it is made present to us through the Mass. You sound like Muhammad, who thought that Jesus must have been the size of a mountain due to how many times the Eucharist had been celebrated. Jesus’ sacrifice is perfect, and thus its effects are made present through Mystery or Sacrament, unlike the sacrifices of the old covenant, which had to be repeated constantly, and required physical blood. The Mass is the “unbloody sacrifice of Calvary,” which allows believers to be mystically present at the foot of the Cross.
3:20 The passover sacrifice calls for a Jewish priest to take the blood from the slaughtered lamb and to pour it out on the alter of sacrifice. Exactly, not _drink_ the blood. Yahweh prohibited anyone from drinking blood. It's one of several reasons why Real Presence is wrong. The prefiguration also breaks down because A) there is no parallel to "bitter herbs", B) Yahweh forbid human sacrifice, and C) Exodus 12 says only circumcised Jews may partake in Pesach: "no uncircumcised person shall eat of it".
A remarkable explanation of the Eucharist in a brief but complete lecture! So very impressive.
Thank you for making this complex topic accessible for laymen like me, who lack theological training. I am continually in awe of the beauty and depth of our faith: Our Lord's institution of the sacrament of the Eucharist at the pascal meal in anticipation of His Crucification is genius, for lack of a better term.
Yes, it was a genius thing to do! Substitute an animal sacrifice for a human sacrifice
@@progidy7 I am particularly moved by how the Last Supper, wherein Our Lord instituted the Eucharist, is a prefigurement of the unbloody sacrifice at Cavalry offered at every Mass. I guess it is not surprising, given that Our Lord has perfect knowledge; yet I am still in awe at this symmetry.
It's our pleasure; thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! May the Lord bless you!
@@Laj-t9k Calvary 😉
The Eucharist effects in us what the Passion effected on the world. Wow.
Wow is right! May the Lord bless you!
Such a wonderful explanation!! Thank you!!
Feel so happy for being a cradle catholic. God bless you 🎉👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for commenting! May the Lord bless you!
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wow so smart, I hope God has mercy on me
This is beautiful.
Thank you for your kind words! May the Lord bless you!
Thank you God bless you
It's our joy! May the Lord bless you!
Wow! Thanks! Could you please add subtitles in Spanish? God bless!
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Thank you Father! Regarding to this episode, I always have a question. Since after the resurrection, the Eucharistic body of Christ is his glorified body, while at the last supper when Jesus had not been crucified and resurrected yet, the very own body that he was holding on his hands should be his original body of that moment? And therefore I’m not sure whether they are the same kind of substance from a chronological perspective, precisely speaking, the body and blood at the last supper, and the body and blood after Jesus’s resurrection, a full presence of the risen Christ in a radically unique way.
What do I do if I am vegan-inclined?
I heard a priest say that in the Eucharist we receive the resurrected body of Christ, because it's spiritual and edifying, as opposed to receive a regression, the human flesh that is just meat.
Forgive me, but this doesn't make sense.
Jesus is both fully God and fully man. He wasn't merely a man prior to the resurrection; He was fully God on the cross.
Even that aside, a human body is never just meat. We are just as much our bodies as we are our souls rather than spirits driving around in meat vehicles or trapped in meat prisons. Even in death, when our soul is separated from our body, our flesh is still part of what makes us what we are, human, and thus is to be treated with dignity and respect. Not to mention the fact that God will reunite our spirits with our bodies when He returns rather than leave us to exist as only spiritual beings like the angels for eternity.
So, no, I cannot see how the physical body of the God man as he suffered on the cross for our sins or at any time for that matter could ever be considered just meat.
I hope this doesn't come off as rude; I certainly don't mean to offend you. It's just that this doesn't seem to fit with any of the theology that I am aware of.
Anyway, God bless you. I hope you have a really wonderful week.
@catholicmurph7707 Thanks for your reply. I'm looking for the Truth. The question is what body are we receiving in the Eucharist? Jesus had 2 very different bodies. One was human and fragile. The second one, resurrected and glorious. We agree whats edifying is the Spirit. John 6:63. We want to receive the Eucharist searching for Life not death. God bless you.
@@catholicmurph7707 The crucifixion is nothing without the resurrection. Jesus resurrected once and for all so we could resurrect.
@BaronAna Oh, I am so excited to have a real conversation with someone who also enjoys asking deep questions.
I don't think there should be any fear of seeking and certainly not finding death in the Eucharist, as Christ said Himself, "I am the bread of life."
But to answer your question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church has this to say, "What material food produces in our bodily life, Holy Communion wonderfully achieves in our spiritual life. Communion with the flesh of the risen Christ, a flesh “given life and giving life through the Holy Spirit,”* preserves, increases, and renews the life of grace received at Baptism. This growth in Christian life needs the nourishment of Eucharistic Communion, the bread for our pilgrimage until the moment of death, when it will be given to us as viaticum." - The Sacrament of the Eucharist, CCC 1392
So, yes. The Eucharist is the ressurected body of Christ.
@@catholicmurph7707 Thank you for your answer. I love it.
Jesus died once for all. He commanded his disciples to teach us gentiles his own teachings. Matthew 28 v 19.
Where does God say all that or is it men who make this interpretation?
God says all of this through the Holy Spirit speaking into the teachings of His Church.
Glad you asked. Jesus says this in John 6:53 among other places. It is riddled throughout the scriptures. It's also how nearly all Christians believed and worshipped for the first 1500 years of Christianity. Plus, you can read the writing of the Church fathers.
But why do we need the passion to be present to us today? The Historical moment is ever present in heaven in the Holy of Holies. From there we receive graces.
We need it - we do it- because Jesus told us to. ".. do this in memory of me. "
@@quitgoogle2534 yes we celebrate birthdays as remembrance, but we do not repeat the hospital delivery scene every year, do we?
@therighteousrighthand Christ is not crucified again and again at every mass.. as your analogy wrongfully implies.
Things like this are precisely the reason Jesus gave authority to the Catholic Church and NOT the individual. The Church interprets and decides on these matters, not the individual.
@@quitgoogle2534 I agree with Church authority and that my analogy is slightly off. but just trying to understand.
So he says the sacrifice is extended or stretched from 33 BC to 2024., am I correct?
It's like saying birthing act is stretched as if it is still ongoing and you were not really born. Or one is born but mommy holding the baby scene is stretched.
@@therighteousrighthandThere is just the one sacrifice, but it is made present to us through the Mass. You sound like Muhammad, who thought that Jesus must have been the size of a mountain due to how many times the Eucharist had been celebrated. Jesus’ sacrifice is perfect, and thus its effects are made present through Mystery or Sacrament, unlike the sacrifices of the old covenant, which had to be repeated constantly, and required physical blood. The Mass is the “unbloody sacrifice of Calvary,” which allows believers to be mystically present at the foot of the Cross.
3:20 The passover sacrifice calls for a Jewish priest to take the blood from the slaughtered lamb and to pour it out on the alter of sacrifice.
Exactly, not _drink_ the blood. Yahweh prohibited anyone from drinking blood. It's one of several reasons why Real Presence is wrong.
The prefiguration also breaks down because A) there is no parallel to "bitter herbs", B) Yahweh forbid human sacrifice, and C) Exodus 12 says only circumcised Jews may partake in Pesach: "no uncircumcised person shall eat of it".
you misinterpret all the verses that you use
@@juliusrendon5936 wow, hard-hitting rebuttal