It goes a little farther than the death of his mom. She had a stroke when he was a kid, and lived out the rest of her life paralyzed. His anger is more about that, than her death.
This song is based on Maynards experience with his mothers church. She had a stroke and became paralyzed and the leaders said it wouldnt have happened if she was a better christian
His mom was paralyzed and the church basically turned their back on her and said it happened cuz she wasnt good. She still was a faithful person even after everything she went through, and he couldnt see why when she suffered so much.
it is definitely an indictment on organized religion. as many of the other posters mentioned. he mother had a stroke when he was 11 years old and the church she was a part of insisted and convinced her god would take care of it, so with that she lived the next 27 and a half years (10,000 days - which is the name of a Tool album) as an invalid (paralyzed) yet she never lost her faith even as her church eventually turned its back on her. So his yelling F*ck your Dog is aimed at the church, and the line 'so many ways for me to show you how your dogma has abandoned you' is meant somewhat for her. ' F*ck your lord, your christ. he's the one who did this to your and left you this way'. But as mentioned on the Tool album 10,000 Days there is a pair of songs Wings for Marie (his mother's name) and 10,000 Days. where he shows his growth and understanding and demanding God let his mother in and give her her wings. its a hauntingly beautiful yet heavy song. i would also suggest the Tool song 'JIMMY" which is a letter to his 11 year old self about disconnecting from the emotion of loosing his mother when she had the stroke and could no longer care for him and emotionally leaving that child behind to fend for himself. Maynard's story is very intriguing
The guitarist was actually Tools guitar tech and the branched off to a new band here. Started as a side project and this song catipilted them to stardom just like everything Maynard touches turns to gold.
If you do wings for Marie and 10,000 days those two songs must be played back to back otherwise the Took army will be mad! Those songs are one of the most beautiful tributes to a mother.
"Jimmy" is the first step of Maynard's journey in his discography dealing emotionally with his mother's aneurysm, and paralyzation for 10,000 Days (17 years), before she passed.
As someone who has religious parents, I think the pain comes from not ever feeling like you can have a real connection with someone who is very strictly religious. I left religion and I cant talk about any of my own human struggles with them because I get "oh you just need Jesus." Any connection outside of that is unavailable. Its a painful situation. Then losing that parent, must be a confusing and painful feeling. I love this song, makes me feel like I'm not alone leaving religion 🖤
A lot of us that were Tool fans before APC was formed transitioned to APC. Tool takes forever between albums so APC filled the gap for Maynard and us fans.
It's because his mom refused medical attention due to her strict beliefs, she believed God would heal her ailments, but ended up dying without any medical care. Her church didn't believe in modern medicine.
This is the type of explanation I was looking for. It makes better sense. And it’s less of an indictment on God and more on the church she frequented. Thank you for this.
I think that Tool represents Maynard's masculinity where he tends to express himself more aggressively, while APC represents his vulnerability and feminity. I love both bands and my mood dictates which I listen to and when. I believe Maynard said something very similar in an interview once. Love that you guys are digging and delving into both bands. Keep it up! 👌🌀 Also, as a fellow Christian, Judith was a hard pill for me to swallow at first. But when you listen to Wings For Marie (parts 1 and 2) by Tool, you can truly feel Maynard's resolve and acceptance of his mother's faith. It's a beautiful tribute. Def check it out. Edit: Other APC songs worth reacting to are The Outsider, The Package, The Noose and The Hollow
There are a number of songs from the lead singer from Tool (same guy) covering his mothers story. Orestes is from A Perfect Circle, Tool has Eleven, Wings for Marie part 1 and 2. His mothers name is Judith Marie. He started a wine company named after her.
Maynard James Keenan is definitely a believer, you just need the whole story, there's a 3-part series to this song, the name of the album is 10,000.00 days for a reason, wings for Marie 1&2
This song,for me, is about my daughter. She was born with spina bifida, many other issues come with that, but she loves church and loves to read the bible. It's not me, but it shows us true heart and faith. We need that sometimes.
He's playing the part of the snake in the garden of eden in a scene where the snake is tempting Maynard's mother, trying to convince her to doubt her faith. The lyrics are this imaginary conversation the snake is having with the stubborn, unshakable-in-her-faith mother. One i learned this context, the song became art for me.
If you listen Maynard actually rights pretty much the way most rappers do. Mainly after the music or beat is submitted and rides the beats. He doesn't write any lyrics until after he gets the complete music
For me, it was a son’s anger at his mother for not herself being angry by the things that had happened in her life. He did not understand that she had already accepted everything with her reward already set in heaven
I think he came to terms with it this was a while back. Maynard has had a hard life and child hood and it comes out in his music. If you follow Tool through their Albums it is pretty much the story of Maynards life and growing spiritually through out becoming a better person for it it is pretty amazing and Inspiring.
I think the issue of being someone deeply religious is that you have a closed mind. You almost have to. If you have too much empathy and put yourself too much in their shoes, it's very difficult to see anything but darkness. If you're too open-minded, you look at all the other different beliefs in the world and wonder how your faith is any different or more true than theirs. The truth is, you don't know what they dealt with. You aren't them. This song isn't even about her death, it's about the suffering she was put through. 10000 Days, one of Tool's albums, is named after how long she suffered after being paralyzed. Judith was made while she was still alive, though that album was made after she passed. You're experiencing a single unadulterated point in a person's life that was captured for the world to see without realizing that it isn't the end of the story or of his life. Most of today's music doesn't go that personal. Grief is a process and sometimes that process involves the loss of faith and the regaining of it later. 10000 days is an entire album about the mixed feelings he has about it all. Wings for Marie Part 1 and 2 (Judith Marie Keenan was her full name), Right in Two, among several others are songs I'd recommend to see how the rest of this story plays out.
you should listen to Marie part 1 and part 2 as in a way this is part 1 and those 2 tracks (which roll into each other) are the 2nd part and it shows 1) how Raw the emotion was when he wrote "Judith" and 2) how much his POV matured in the years that followed towards the situation and I would say towards religion too. I think she was actually alive when he wrote this and Marie part 1 and part 2 were written after she died (could be wrong about the timeline)
I believe Judith saw the piety her son saw in her as a thing to be proud of. Despite all the bad, she stuck to her faith so entirely that even her atheist son feels it.
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It goes a little farther than the death of his mom. She had a stroke when he was a kid, and lived out the rest of her life paralyzed. His anger is more about that, than her death.
Especially since she was still alive when this song was made. 1st part of Wings almost sounds like his apology to her for this song.
His anger is her support of the faith and the church that abandoned her because of her disease.
This song is based on Maynards experience with his mothers church.
She had a stroke and became paralyzed and the leaders said it wouldnt have happened if she was a better christian
His mom was paralyzed and the church basically turned their back on her and said it happened cuz she wasnt good. She still was a faithful person even after everything she went through, and he couldnt see why when she suffered so much.
The Paz hair moment 🤟
Paz is such a bad ass
And gorgeous. I miss her being a member
FOR REALS
@@dan.j.boydzkreationz I'm so thankful that I got to see APC in concert when Paz was still in the band. So awesome. Rock on! :-)
So metal.
it is definitely an indictment on organized religion. as many of the other posters mentioned. he mother had a stroke when he was 11 years old and the church she was a part of insisted and convinced her god would take care of it, so with that she lived the next 27 and a half years (10,000 days - which is the name of a Tool album) as an invalid (paralyzed) yet she never lost her faith even as her church eventually turned its back on her. So his yelling F*ck your Dog is aimed at the church, and the line 'so many ways for me to show you how your dogma has abandoned you' is meant somewhat for her. ' F*ck your lord, your christ. he's the one who did this to your and left you this way'.
But as mentioned on the Tool album 10,000 Days there is a pair of songs Wings for Marie (his mother's name) and 10,000 Days. where he shows his growth and understanding and demanding God let his mother in and give her her wings. its a hauntingly beautiful yet heavy song.
i would also suggest the Tool song 'JIMMY" which is a letter to his 11 year old self about disconnecting from the emotion of loosing his mother when she had the stroke and could no longer care for him and emotionally leaving that child behind to fend for himself. Maynard's story is very intriguing
The guitarist was actually Tools guitar tech and the branched off to a new band here. Started as a side project and this song catipilted them to stardom just like everything Maynard touches turns to gold.
Yall need to do Wings for Marie part 1 and part 2 10,000 days from Tool. Those two songs tigh into this song and Maynards mother.
as does "jimmy"
If you do wings for Marie and 10,000 days those two songs must be played back to back otherwise the Took army will be mad! Those songs are one of the most beautiful tributes to a mother.
Especially, given the conversation at the end, +500 for this!!!!
"Jimmy" is the first step of Maynard's journey in his discography dealing emotionally with his mother's aneurysm, and paralyzation for 10,000 Days (17 years), before she passed.
Josh Freeze is the Drummer he plays with many bands and is Phenomenal.
As someone who has religious parents, I think the pain comes from not ever feeling like you can have a real connection with someone who is very strictly religious. I left religion and I cant talk about any of my own human struggles with them because I get "oh you just need Jesus." Any connection outside of that is unavailable. Its a painful situation. Then losing that parent, must be a confusing and painful feeling. I love this song, makes me feel like I'm not alone leaving religion 🖤
Bassist is Paz Lenchantin, Billy Howerdel on guitar, Josh Freese on drums, Troy Van Leeuwen rhythm guitar
O btw, the video is directed by David Fincher, who did the movies Se7en, The Game, Gone Girl, The Social Network et al.
To sketch a perfect circle is considered impossible, yet some have claimed to've done it, and it has spiritual connotations.
A lot of us that were Tool fans before APC was formed transitioned to APC. Tool takes forever between albums so APC filled the gap for Maynard and us fans.
I just read yesterday that Tool announced the release date of their next alblum. April 2045. Can't wait.
@@trumphatesyou LOL!!! So 2050 then!🤣🤣🤣🤣
The eyeball is the only perfect circle in the human body.
🌬🌀👁🌀_😏🤘
It's because his mom refused medical attention due to her strict beliefs, she believed God would heal her ailments, but ended up dying without any medical care. Her church didn't believe in modern medicine.
This is the type of explanation I was looking for. It makes better sense. And it’s less of an indictment on God and more on the church she frequented. Thank you for this.
@@ComicsCorner1 I read that the people in her church told her she was being punished for her sins
the bassest was the hottest bitch back then for reals, killed that tie hair up move
I think that Tool represents Maynard's masculinity where he tends to express himself more aggressively, while APC represents his vulnerability and feminity. I love both bands and my mood dictates which I listen to and when. I believe Maynard said something very similar in an interview once. Love that you guys are digging and delving into both bands. Keep it up! 👌🌀
Also, as a fellow Christian, Judith was a hard pill for me to swallow at first. But when you listen to Wings For Marie (parts 1 and 2) by Tool, you can truly feel Maynard's resolve and acceptance of his mother's faith. It's a beautiful tribute. Def check it out.
Edit: Other APC songs worth reacting to are The Outsider, The Package, The Noose and The Hollow
Maynard really likes to twiddle his mic cable, all inconspicuous-like. 😎
There are a number of songs from the lead singer from Tool (same guy) covering his mothers story. Orestes is from A Perfect Circle, Tool has Eleven, Wings for Marie part 1 and 2. His mothers name is Judith Marie. He started a wine company named after her.
i believe it's jimmy, not eleven.
Maynard James Keenan is definitely a believer, you just need the whole story, there's a 3-part series to this song, the name of the album is 10,000.00 days for a reason, wings for Marie 1&2
A Perfect Circle is a group that is powerful because of each of the group's individual attributes
Over here singing every word ❤
Paz is one bad bitch!
Adore her.
#TOOLARMY 🌀🤘
This song,for me, is about my daughter. She was born with spina bifida, many other issues come with that, but she loves church and loves to read the bible. It's not me, but it shows us true heart and faith. We need that sometimes.
He's a good direct storyteller
One of those old supergroups..this is bout Maynard’s momma they have a difference of opinion on why she ended up disabled
Believe because of reality, brilliant
I can only hope they provide a “blue light” for prospective guests, to scan over that “sectional”, before they sit down….🥺
He's playing the part of the snake in the garden of eden in a scene where the snake is tempting Maynard's mother, trying to convince her to doubt her faith. The lyrics are this imaginary conversation the snake is having with the stubborn, unshakable-in-her-faith mother. One i learned this context, the song became art for me.
Uh, no. Not at all. This was Maynard’s pen, through and through, stating his thoughts.
@@jasoncinema Guess the article I read was wrong wrong. Not surprising. sigh
Bonus points for them slipping a slide into a Rock/metal song , not very common these days
I think yall would like "cult of personality" by living colour
You can’t draw a perfect circle. Giotto drew a perfect circle back in the day for the Pope, as it’s been stated in history.
Correct. And then there’s also that old statement that “only a true artist can draw a perfect circle.”
@@jasoncinema Exactly! The hardest thing to draw.
Check out Tool’s Vicarious, Aenima, Stinkfist
Tool = masculine Apc= feminine pucifer= Horus the combination of both masculine and fem energy and that brings you the trinity the triangle.
Looks like y'all need a new sub goal, congrats!
Edit, that was quick 😅
Great reaction. You should react to weak and powerless by a perfect circle
If you listen Maynard actually rights pretty much the way most rappers do. Mainly after the music or beat is submitted and rides the beats. He doesn't write any lyrics until after he gets the complete music
correct
Yo! APC is great, thanks for the reaction!
For me, it was a son’s anger at his mother for not herself being angry by the things that had happened in her life. He did not understand that she had already accepted everything with her reward already set in heaven
I think he came to terms with it this was a while back. Maynard has had a hard life and child hood and it comes out in his music. If you follow Tool through their Albums it is pretty much the story of Maynards life and growing spiritually through out becoming a better person for it it is pretty amazing and Inspiring.
I think the issue of being someone deeply religious is that you have a closed mind. You almost have to. If you have too much empathy and put yourself too much in their shoes, it's very difficult to see anything but darkness. If you're too open-minded, you look at all the other different beliefs in the world and wonder how your faith is any different or more true than theirs.
The truth is, you don't know what they dealt with. You aren't them. This song isn't even about her death, it's about the suffering she was put through. 10000 Days, one of Tool's albums, is named after how long she suffered after being paralyzed. Judith was made while she was still alive, though that album was made after she passed. You're experiencing a single unadulterated point in a person's life that was captured for the world to see without realizing that it isn't the end of the story or of his life. Most of today's music doesn't go that personal.
Grief is a process and sometimes that process involves the loss of faith and the regaining of it later. 10000 days is an entire album about the mixed feelings he has about it all. Wings for Marie Part 1 and 2 (Judith Marie Keenan was her full name), Right in Two, among several others are songs I'd recommend to see how the rest of this story plays out.
you should listen to Marie part 1 and part 2 as in a way this is part 1 and those 2 tracks (which roll into each other) are the 2nd part and it shows 1) how Raw the emotion was when he wrote "Judith" and 2) how much his POV matured in the years that followed towards the situation and I would say towards religion too. I think she was actually alive when he wrote this and Marie part 1 and part 2 were written after she died (could be wrong about the timeline)
Tool has been my favorite band for almost 20 years. I like one A Perfect Circle album. Mer de Nom. The rest not so much.
There's no transition, there's only addition. Tool, APC and Puscifer are in- rather than ex-clusive.
Do you ever properly mourn if you believe in an afterlife that can't be demonstrated? I've no sound reason to believe it is real...at all.
Let it rip, tater chip!
The "a perfect circle" it's a bit dirty😮
Do when your friend is a savage part 1 to 5 compilation by LongBeachGriffy please 😂
Tool army forever ..listen too pucifer as well
No such thing as an absolutely perfect circle...pretty sure that's the point...
Beyblade bro.... beyblade
Please raise the volume of the music, it's too low on all of your videos.
Hey good reaction.
Great powerful song.
Sad story around it.
Yall are funny together, but ~5.5 min to start the song is too much 😁😆👍
Nope. That pun was criminal.
I believe Judith saw the piety her son saw in her as a thing to be proud of. Despite all the bad, she stuck to her faith so entirely that even her atheist son feels it.
I'm a Tool fan and definitely don't mind a bit of A Perfect Circle
Dave Grohl is frigging amazing on drums. Good fun to watch.
Josh Freese is the drummer for perfect circle, not Dave Gohl from NIRVANA.& the foo fighters...
APC is BETTER than Tool. I truly belive that!
Fake reaction LK
As an old school tool fan I love apc just as much, Maynard has an amazing voice!