I'm calling it scam ver , global klab live stream said the gameplay was false on JP live stream and they do NOT refresh each others SA1+2 cool down :feels bad man:
the best is a balance between attack and stamina. If you don't have enaught attack you won't be able to do enaught damage, realistically you can't kill people by throwing stamina at them. While if you have too much attack and low stamina you won't be able to survive enaught, which also means you won't be able to use that attack. Another reason why stamina is better is because of the special move... In the end the best build is the one which gives you the opportunity to inflicts enaught damage and that's made by attack, but also which gives you the opportunity to keep making damage for a constant period of time and that's made by dr and stam.
having 30% attack rolls doesn't make you squishy because you should be running DR links and the base STA boost from the ideal accessories is there as well. In this meta, I believe that you should opt to defeat the enemy as fast as possible. Of course your links should always prioritize DR unless you're going for SAD burst on frenzy units. Also if you're link slotted you're getting base DEF. I just heavily disagree with your statement about being squishy with attack rolls, simply not true lol. my Broken (GP, GC, Chappy all 30% attack) and Retsu (GC, Pupple, Chappy 30% attack) are plenty tanky. Not to mention Broken boost adding extra DEF. Doing as much damage as possible minimizes the chance for RNG bs to screw you over (looking at you soul bomb) tl;dr in my opinion STA is not as valuable as 30% Attack in PvP. You will gain survivability from other areas (Link slot boosts, broken boost, and base stamina boosts from the staple accesories), so your secondary effects should be boosting your damage output. Cool video either way, I just disagree 100%.
What is your opinion on the Accessory Build with (Unohana of course + other flurrys poise as well) 1. Chappy (30% atk) 2. Pupples (30% atk), 3. Hojiku-zai (30% atk) or Soul Reaper Cloth (30% atk)
I kinda disagree bcos theres too much r.n.g in pvp now(where the soul bomb appears, toshiro freeze, instakill special e.t.c), so how long you can stay alive is not as important as how fast you can kill them especially if you still have dr. ill like to see it in action to be fully convinced bcos from my experience the attack is better
Its about having enough stamina to attack and enough to survive, who's to say the stamina unit isn't the one getting all the specials? The more units that survive the higher chance they'll get the soul bomb :3
well you've convinced me a bit. is it possible for you to do a video showcase proving this bcos you might be right but I'm wining for now so i'm not down to change except I'm 100% sure its better. also are you sure your 10/10/10 isn't one of the reasons since you gain attack also from it
So... Captains Robe, Double Chappy Tetsuzaimon with two max link slots, one for Kon and another for another high HP character, the 3rd slot for Ichigo?
I have to disagree with you, the soulbomb rng increases the longer the fight goes and 1 toshiro special is generally a death sentence. Stamina only has a higher numerical value but it generally doesn't amout for much. Attack on the other hand synergizes way more with bruiser/flurry, focus and any kind of boost and killer effect while stamina increases the healing you receive and, and that I am not sure of, the bonus stamina you get from pvp itself. Another thing is that banken doesn't do much against retsu even if she is build full dr/attack, he can give you the edge in the retsu vs retsu matchup but there is nothing else to it. Even a retsu with 4* dr links doesn't die easily to him.
After stacking all accessories for stamina, why did you say that she was squishy? If so, what else can we do? Can you show us the ultimate builds of TYBW retsu, kenny, shunshui and toshiro in both pvp and pve?
Hey spite, I am currently 10th in captain rank and can GUARANTEE that stamina is worse that attack: the problem is that when you go full stamina, you cannot guarantee a kill on the opponent's Unohana and after that, it is up to a 50/50 chance who gets the soul bomb wins. My win rate sky rockets when I move to attack because I am able to match up against any Unohana and will be able to take her down before anyone gets the soul bomb. Now I AM using a gold chappy, chappy and cpt robe all thirty attack and 10/0/0 links with ryuken, koga, and grimmjow. I am not sure if that makes a difference but, I can tell you 100% that attack is better in captain rank at least. I will be head captain on Sunday but I doubt that will change anything
I agree with you :) My blue kenny is all Stamina, but that's because I don't have max attack for speed, but he last a lot longer then my others that are Attack or SP :) I don't have Unohana :,(
going full stam pretty much just means you are letting the game decide your fate with RNG soul bombs, its more reliable to go attack and kill the enemy retsu before soul bombs spawn and gain a 2 v 1 advantage asap
Yo spite have you noticed IZ is harder to auto with unohana this time around? Idk it was the same one last time but I could still auto it same setup and now this time I can’t
of course u are right about stamina being better then attack for pvp, but that about the stamina being the highest stats is't right ya know, cause she has flurry that basically doubles her attack not that stamina is't the best thing for her(or other damage taken character) okey if i write something wrong.. sorry i am from brazil :P
I was waitting for a long time to make that video and I believe you are wrong Sorry man but I use unohana and kenny with 60 %attack and 140% Hp 10/0/0 link slots and full DR and bankai ken with 140% sp 10/10/0 full sad and 7 out of 10 times I lose cause the enemy team is almost dead but not dead and take the sb So the problem is the low attack od unohana and kenny cause ban ken almost destroys the enemy's
I would have agreed about the "stamina is king" until a month and a half ago, but the fact is that Unohana gives 0 shits about your 4000 stamina in pvp, because if she feels like it she just instakills you with the special. My own strategy is full DR and full attack: kill Unohana as fast as possible to try and kill her before she instakills me. I even use the special strategy and switched Sajin for TT Koga to try and snipe those soul bombs from afar
you re right ,thats true for every case axcept if you have a g chappy!im going in with g chappy,chappy,BAIT 30att ryuken,isshin,hw yoru on 10/10/10.i survive the burst of sa from zaraki and then i need 1/2 of my nad string to kill the opponents unohana(or 1 hit since my zaraki demolish her health). i ve lost 6 times the past 1 1/2 month ,2 times from 9 specials from a toshiro,2 times from the 1shot special and 2 times from a fused tensa(sloted with g chappy). even tho i lost 6 times in 45 days i still cant stay on cap. seat cause all those damn 100days accounts that keep spending orbs for pvp matches!
i would have to disagree, you NEED the attack to actually do something, you get your effective stamina in Pvp from link slots and DR links,,, stam links died with the sode barry meta, or your running a stall character like tsukishima.,, people that are losing are probably having baits with little to no slots in their links ,,, or add some other links other than DR..... ALSOOO you are forgetting the potential boost that your characters will get from a boost char, and that boosts your OVERALL attack AFTER adding accessories and links slots by 33% and the boost does nothing to stam :D
I've tried both. I feel like there needs to be a good mix otherwise you can survive anything, but can't kill. I have 68% dr, 98% stam, and 78% attack and I'm just barely able to survive while just barely able to kill other retsus...in 5th seat...pvp is cancer.
Big talk. Look at your rank in PvP. :)))). First week of seat 3. I found u and beat u quickly. DPS is better. And now ur way at bottom around 200-300. Also theres reason why alot of high seats like caps or HCap run full 30 attack even people in cap might not have enough gc.
i just saved some 30% defense links from my last accs evolve, what do u guys think are they worth to use? since only strong attacks can pierce through defense but normal attacks not
Stamina is much worst than attack in pvp, because if you have dr, your stamina multiplier augments So if you DONT run attack, you are losing 600 atk, for 1'2k hp, And if you have dr, you'll always end the match with a lot of hp, unless you face a full atk team, because they will deal a lot more damage than you, and the differece in the stamina wont be as big to make a difference Oh and, im running my ururu full atk/dr, and not even toshiro oneshots her, obviusly if he is able to hit her, because unohana cancels his 3rd strong attack, and deletes him ;)
Павел Булай if you want, I can send you a spredsheet so you can compare a G.chappy/chappy/coat build with 40% stamina, with a G.chappt/Chappy/Hollow bait build with 30% attack
I have unohana with gold and normal chappy and the robe... 30 atk, 40 sta and 30 atk in that order Links 6/7/6 16 dr (ichigos dad) 20 dr( purple quincy) and a purple 20% atk (black skin espada)
This is incorrect. STA is only better than ATK via the 40% vs 30% if and only if there were no DEF in this game. Due to the DEF stat being seemingly based on a flat mitigation, having low ATK has a higher opportunity cost than the percentages suggest. With attribute strategy, your character is almost guaranteed to win the head to head match up. They will then turn to 2v1 another of your opponent's characters and having STA instead of ATK is non-ideal here. Another issue to consider here is the soul bombs. If your items and links are on point, you're only looking to mitigate losses due to RNG. Being able to quickly dispatch one or two opponents before the soul bomb spawns will give you an immediate advantage. If they manage to freeze you then you're boned with either ATK or STAM, but ATK will lower potentially lower the odds of this happening. SAD teams cannot 1 shot your ATK build if you are using DR links. A STA build does have a niche in the current meta, however. TLA Kenpachi has a useless soul bomb, especially when using Chappy. If you target teams with Kenpachi leads, their soul bombs will be useless as long as the Kenpachi does not die and pass it onto another character. In this situation, having a strong character vs Kenpachi such as Koga with full ATK items will kill Kenpachi too quickly, and you might lose to a Toshiro/Retsu soul bomb. Using a STA build here is better for this purpose. With all that said, the rest of your team will need to be able to beat theirs, or you will have to rely on a soul bomb to win. It really helps to play against useless specials!
Ofc you're gonna hate on attack when you're rocking an sp bait and lose health, what kinda shit is that Edit: dont come at me on some fanboy hating shit if you can't back anything up
them: "Why is my team losing in PVP?"
Me: "it's cause your not using 5 star Kon my dude"
I know this is totally unrelated, but if you get Yin and Yang tomorrow and decide to do a review, please call it (Bipolar Ver.)
I'm calling it scam ver , global klab live stream said the gameplay was false on JP live stream and they do NOT refresh each others SA1+2 cool down :feels bad man:
well makes sense they dont, that would be too good
the best is a balance between attack and stamina. If you don't have enaught attack you won't be able to do enaught damage, realistically you can't kill people by throwing stamina at them.
While if you have too much attack and low stamina you won't be able to survive enaught, which also means you won't be able to use that attack. Another reason why stamina is better is because of the special move...
In the end the best build is the one which gives you the opportunity to inflicts enaught damage and that's made by attack, but also which gives you the opportunity to keep making damage for a constant period of time and that's made by dr and stam.
having 30% attack rolls doesn't make you squishy because you should be running DR links and the base STA boost from the ideal accessories is there as well. In this meta, I believe that you should opt to defeat the enemy as fast as possible. Of course your links should always prioritize DR unless you're going for SAD burst on frenzy units. Also if you're link slotted you're getting base DEF. I just heavily disagree with your statement about being squishy with attack rolls, simply not true lol. my Broken (GP, GC, Chappy all 30% attack) and Retsu (GC, Pupple, Chappy 30% attack) are plenty tanky. Not to mention Broken boost adding extra DEF. Doing as much damage as possible minimizes the chance for RNG bs to screw you over (looking at you soul bomb)
tl;dr
in my opinion STA is not as valuable as 30% Attack in PvP. You will gain survivability from other areas (Link slot boosts, broken boost, and base stamina boosts from the staple accesories), so your secondary effects should be boosting your damage output. Cool video either way, I just disagree 100%.
What is your opinion on the Accessory Build with (Unohana of course + other flurrys poise as well)
1. Chappy (30% atk)
2. Pupples (30% atk),
3. Hojiku-zai (30% atk) or Soul Reaper Cloth (30% atk)
my team loses because i use sogyou no kotowari, but i feel like im handing out L's when they fight me and hear the sound effects lol
I kinda disagree bcos theres too much r.n.g in pvp now(where the soul bomb appears, toshiro freeze, instakill special e.t.c), so how long you can stay alive is not as important as how fast you can kill them especially if you still have dr. ill like to see it in action to be fully convinced bcos from my experience the attack is better
Shit my unohana ate 3 toshiro soul bombs before he busted his but early and she unfroze and shoved a broom up his ass
Its about having enough stamina to attack and enough to survive, who's to say the stamina unit isn't the one getting all the specials? The more units that survive the higher chance they'll get the soul bomb :3
You’re both wrong, best stats for pvp is focus. Plebs.
well you've convinced me a bit. is it possible for you to do a video showcase proving this bcos you might be right but I'm wining for now so i'm not down to change except I'm 100% sure its better. also are you sure your 10/10/10 isn't one of the reasons since you gain attack also from it
I believe attack is better because flury doubles it. It might not show but it's there.
So... Captains Robe, Double Chappy Tetsuzaimon with two max link slots, one for Kon and another for another high HP character, the 3rd slot for Ichigo?
You right you right :D
I have to disagree with you, the soulbomb rng increases the longer the fight goes and 1 toshiro special is generally a death sentence. Stamina only has a higher numerical value but it generally doesn't amout for much. Attack on the other hand synergizes way more with bruiser/flurry, focus and any kind of boost and killer effect while stamina increases the healing you receive and, and that I am not sure of, the bonus stamina you get from pvp itself.
Another thing is that banken doesn't do much against retsu even if she is build full dr/attack, he can give you the edge in the retsu vs retsu matchup but there is nothing else to it. Even a retsu with 4* dr links doesn't die easily to him.
After stacking all accessories for stamina, why did you say that she was squishy? If so, what else can we do?
Can you show us the ultimate builds of TYBW retsu, kenny, shunshui and toshiro in both pvp and pve?
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Nice video Spiteful Hopes. Excelente tip for pvp
Hey spite, I am currently 10th in captain rank and can GUARANTEE that stamina is worse that attack: the problem is that when you go full stamina, you cannot guarantee a kill on the opponent's Unohana and after that, it is up to a 50/50 chance who gets the soul bomb wins. My win rate sky rockets when I move to attack because I am able to match up against any Unohana and will be able to take her down before anyone gets the soul bomb. Now I AM using a gold chappy, chappy and cpt robe all thirty attack and 10/0/0 links with ryuken, koga, and grimmjow. I am not sure if that makes a difference but, I can tell you 100% that attack is better in captain rank at least. I will be head captain on Sunday but I doubt that will change anything
And flury doubles you attack to do its a hidden stat
I need help should I use my potion on tensa zangetsu which is 5\1\0 but i have fb Ichigo but none of his link slots are open
so i am running triple chappies on my characters and i dont have any link slot increases. Should i go with a robe/hog with stam or keep the 4* chappy?
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I agree with you :) My blue kenny is all Stamina, but that's because I don't have max attack for speed, but he last a lot longer then my others that are Attack or SP :) I don't have Unohana :,(
going full stam pretty much just means you are letting the game decide your fate with RNG soul bombs, its more reliable to go attack and kill the enemy retsu before soul bombs spawn and gain a 2 v 1 advantage asap
Also stamina gets multiplied by x10 in pvp. So 1.6k=16.000 hp
Yo spite have you noticed IZ is harder to auto with unohana this time around? Idk it was the same one last time but I could still auto it same setup and now this time I can’t
she can do the easier difficulty reliably, she can still do the harder one but the lazer guys and poison can kill her. all enemies have captain killer
Oh shoot I totally forgot about that but she auto’d this one for me when it was here before lol
didnt have captain killer before
Jayness oh ok lolol makes sense thanks guys
of course u are right about stamina being better then attack for pvp, but that about the stamina being the highest stats is't right ya know, cause she has flurry that basically doubles her attack
not that stamina is't the best thing for her(or other damage taken character) okey if i write something wrong.. sorry i am from brazil :P
Spite what links to use for broken for pvp?
imagine apache with 3 incomplete hogyoku(green(second buff + stamina)) 1 hogyoku gives 80(with second buff) now 3-240
That's why I have a 40 stam team captain coat for my whole team and when I use nnoitora I have a 40 stam hogyoku
I was waitting for a long time to make that video and I believe you are wrong
Sorry man but I use unohana and kenny with 60 %attack and 140% Hp 10/0/0 link slots and full DR and bankai ken with 140% sp 10/10/0 full sad and 7 out of 10 times I lose cause the enemy team is almost dead but not dead and take the sb
So the problem is the low attack od unohana and kenny cause ban ken almost destroys the enemy's
I would have agreed about the "stamina is king" until a month and a half ago, but the fact is that Unohana gives 0 shits about your 4000 stamina in pvp, because if she feels like it she just instakills you with the special. My own strategy is full DR and full attack: kill Unohana as fast as possible to try and kill her before she instakills me. I even use the special strategy and switched Sajin for TT Koga to try and snipe those soul bombs from afar
you re right ,thats true for every case axcept if you have a g chappy!im going in with g chappy,chappy,BAIT 30att ryuken,isshin,hw yoru on 10/10/10.i survive the burst of sa from zaraki and then i need 1/2 of my nad string to kill the opponents unohana(or 1 hit since my zaraki demolish her health).
i ve lost 6 times the past 1 1/2 month ,2 times from 9 specials from a toshiro,2 times from the 1shot special and 2 times from a fused tensa(sloted with g chappy).
even tho i lost 6 times in 45 days i still cant stay on cap. seat cause all those damn 100days accounts that keep spending orbs for pvp matches!
i would have to disagree, you NEED the attack to actually do something, you get your effective stamina in Pvp from link slots and DR links,,, stam links died with the sode barry meta, or your running a stall character like tsukishima.,, people that are losing are probably having baits with little to no slots in their links ,,, or add some other links other than DR.....
ALSOOO you are forgetting the potential boost that your characters will get from a boost char, and that boosts your OVERALL attack AFTER adding accessories and links slots by 33% and the boost does nothing to stam :D
In your opinion, if I don't have a purple GC, what would be the next best thing after the 5 star chappy and the coat? 4 star chappy or a pupples?
For PvP I'd go with an atk 30 pupples or stam 40 depending on your setup,
Hmmm alright I'll try it out, thanks for the quick reply :)
I pref Houji 30 atck over coat that x2 heal makes up for the missing st
Andrew Bui 4* chappy or hollow bait, running pupples screws your dps
mashiro is really cool bro
I've tried both. I feel like there needs to be a good mix otherwise you can survive anything, but can't kill. I have 68% dr, 98% stam, and 78% attack and I'm just barely able to survive while just barely able to kill other retsus...in 5th seat...pvp is cancer.
lol squishee
Do attribute pvp that would be fun. Just make a team full of only one attribute, for example: mind grimjow, bankai kenny, mind retsu.
Alexander Petersen or I put one time before like of one character by like their different versions
Big talk. Look at your rank in PvP. :)))). First week of seat 3. I found u and beat u quickly. DPS is better. And now ur way at bottom around 200-300. Also theres reason why alot of high seats like caps or HCap run full 30 attack even people in cap might not have enough gc.
i just saved some 30% defense links from my last accs evolve, what do u guys think are they worth to use? since only strong attacks can pierce through defense but normal attacks not
Stamina is much worst than attack in pvp, because if you have dr, your stamina multiplier augments
So if you DONT run attack, you are losing 600 atk, for 1'2k hp,
And if you have dr, you'll always end the match with a lot of hp, unless you face a full atk team, because they will deal a lot more damage than you, and the differece in the stamina wont be as big to make a difference
Oh and, im running my ururu full atk/dr, and not even toshiro oneshots her, obviusly if he is able to hit her, because unohana cancels his 3rd strong attack, and deletes him ;)
Павел Булай if you want, I can send you a spredsheet so you can compare a G.chappy/chappy/coat build with 40% stamina, with a G.chappt/Chappy/Hollow bait build with 30% attack
how about for power kenny the new one
is mangapachi tt koga and noitra a good team pvp ?
I don't have kenpachi so idk tbh
Gg
killing shit > then doing no damage what so ever.
i likce it how u show max stamina build wiht a peel
I have unohana with gold and normal chappy and the robe... 30 atk, 40 sta and 30 atk in that order
Links 6/7/6 16 dr (ichigos dad) 20 dr( purple quincy) and a purple 20% atk (black skin espada)
I got rica from Sw is she good she got a buff?😁
I like Rica a lot, those stuns are annoying asf
Sadly stamina won't matter if Unohana gets her insta kill off or Toshiro keeps getting the soul bomb
She's a cancer
Well that's why I sacrificed my foucs
HP is really important for retsu
She kills most of 10 0 0 link slots retsu
forever 3rd seat :)
you can have 1mil stamina, wont matter when enemy unohana gets soul bomb and instakills you anyways
We need good players to join this guild 【五】Royals
on flurry characters atk is twice as effective though
This is incorrect. STA is only better than ATK via the 40% vs 30% if and only if there were no DEF in this game. Due to the DEF stat being seemingly based on a flat mitigation, having low ATK has a higher opportunity cost than the percentages suggest. With attribute strategy, your character is almost guaranteed to win the head to head match up. They will then turn to 2v1 another of your opponent's characters and having STA instead of ATK is non-ideal here.
Another issue to consider here is the soul bombs. If your items and links are on point, you're only looking to mitigate losses due to RNG. Being able to quickly dispatch one or two opponents before the soul bomb spawns will give you an immediate advantage. If they manage to freeze you then you're boned with either ATK or STAM, but ATK will lower potentially lower the odds of this happening. SAD teams cannot 1 shot your ATK build if you are using DR links.
A STA build does have a niche in the current meta, however. TLA Kenpachi has a useless soul bomb, especially when using Chappy. If you target teams with Kenpachi leads, their soul bombs will be useless as long as the Kenpachi does not die and pass it onto another character. In this situation, having a strong character vs Kenpachi such as Koga with full ATK items will kill Kenpachi too quickly, and you might lose to a Toshiro/Retsu soul bomb. Using a STA build here is better for this purpose. With all that said, the rest of your team will need to be able to beat theirs, or you will have to rely on a soul bomb to win. It really helps to play against useless specials!
This was more of a general statement, not many stack defense unless its all they have x.x and avg defense has lowered in comparison to avg atk
Yah thats beery tru man I've 148%stam and 88% atk on my uno and its better than high atk
So we should be using Iba/Kon/Ichigo or Love/Ikkaku/Grimmjow links?
I'd rather die ty
Klab should start nerfing stuff cause every thing is broken now
this is only true against enemies with DR links (almost all) and using DR yourself
How can u even hv a retsu with 4000 Stam?!?!
I think Nitro's might , I can easily get 3500 cuz of my GC if I reroll it I might be able to get 4k stamina
Spite accept my friend request my name is deathdeals
I don't have spots open :(
It's called a script. They're vital in tutorial videos... stumbl ing through your own words helps NO ONE.
For $2 ad revenue I just record and upload , if this video doesn't help you , dislike it & move on.
Spiteful Hopes no need to be hostile. I was just offering a suggestion to make your videos appear more credible.
It wasn't hostile xD its a response, its good criticism, if I felt it was bad criticism I'd just ignore. :3
3rd
Focus is better than both
Ofc you're gonna hate on attack when you're rocking an sp bait and lose health, what kinda shit is that
Edit: dont come at me on some fanboy hating shit if you can't back anything up