Why did schools stop teaching kids how to read?

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @scbluesman13
    @scbluesman13 2 года назад +57

    I cannot stress this enough. When your children are young... Infants even... Read to them. Read them bedtime stories as often as you can. Read to them during the day when you have time. If you create a home environment where reading is central to raising your child, they will have every advantage you can give them to succeed once they enter the school system. It's a far better problem to tackle when you feel your child isn't being challenged enough, than if your child is behind the baseline with decoding and/or reading comprehension. Regardless of what level of responsibility you think the school system has in this area, parents have an opportunity to engage on this with their children from the very beginning.

    • @amarissimus29
      @amarissimus29 2 года назад +6

      Ditto. My mother read to me every single night. That was the only impetus I needed. Full credit to Roald Dahl as well for spurring my ridiculous imagination. Reading assignments were a joke to me in school, and I felt downright embarrassed for the kids around me in college who could barely speak, let alone read. Just read to them until they can do it themselves. Don't buy toys, buy books. If it's harder to do this these days, then it's harder. The child will thank you all the more. It's in irreplaceable gift and there are no second chances.

    • @scbluesman13
      @scbluesman13 2 года назад +4

      @@amarissimus29 Absolutely. Our daughter is 12 now, and we were reading to her since she was 6months in the womb. She loved it then, and she loves it now. She probably reads between 6-700 pages a week now, and her room looks more like a mini-library than a kid's room. Her reading and language arts comprehension tests are off the charts. When she's not hanging out with friends or doing sports, she spends time at the library. Now I'm not saying that our reading to her at a younger age did this, but I have to believe that the environment we created for her from the beginning certainly played some part in encouraging this behavior & talent. Also, on a side point, when my wife was first pregnant, we got rid of our TV. Sold it to a friend for $50, and never got another one. When we view media we use laptops, and for very specific things, but we didn't want a household where a TV was just "on in the background", droning on with a bunch of mindrot.

    • @scbluesman13
      @scbluesman13 2 года назад +2

      @@amarissimus29 Roald Dahl was an amazing writer. He wrote some great books!

    • @clydekimsey7503
      @clydekimsey7503 2 года назад +2

      @@scbluesman13 great parenting!😇

    • @clydekimsey7503
      @clydekimsey7503 2 года назад

      What is decoding?

  • @brettlee6325
    @brettlee6325 2 года назад +35

    My experience as a public school teacher is reading is taught. However, classics are not allowed and most reading taught is based on common core standards. Every lesson every day has to have a specific learning target and success criteria. Focus all on testing all year and love of learning is mostly put aside to focus on testing

    • @nicoradv3923
      @nicoradv3923 2 года назад +1

      i ran into that core junk when helping my niece, seems all year it was all about that test set at the end of the year, nothing else.
      so many years ago now i dont remember exactly what it was. Do remember asking her question about if the school was teaching this or that, stuff my elementary days.
      She said nothing like that is taught.

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn Год назад

      Well, what "methods" do you use to teach the kids to read?

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 7 месяцев назад

      Yes, from the right-wing conservative Republican administration of George Bush and its "No Child Left Behind" policies of testing and defunding poor schools to take them over by right-wing business predators. That project is ongoing: check out HISD and what Mike Miles has done, who he was appointed by. He is channeling Texas taxpayer money to his privately owned Colorado Schools. Currently. Long game going on here.

    • @YOTSUBA_desu
      @YOTSUBA_desu 3 месяца назад

      I'm not convinced that a child can enjoy learning. I didn't start loving learning until after 20.

  • @JaredAF
    @JaredAF 2 года назад +12

    Literacy has always and will always be the foundation for success in civilization. For most of history, to be educated was synonymous with being literate. That situation has not changed, though the word "educated" is thrown around in all sorts of ways these days.

  • @shannonberr2734
    @shannonberr2734 2 года назад +8

    I am a dyslexic child of 2000s public education system from Cleveland, Ohio. No child left behind was like being tether to the back moving truck. There should be a system of cutting the tether I should've been left behind earlier.

  • @chrisk9613
    @chrisk9613 2 года назад +15

    My parents had a large bookcase and a collection of books in a cabinet as well. Since there was no internet and not much on TV when I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s), I would often just browse the books and find something interesting. My dad also shared new books with me. Looked forward to those Scholastic book fairs that came to our elementary and middle schools. We also had reading competitions in elementary school.

    • @redridingcape
      @redridingcape Год назад +1

      I had my own bookcase in my room and also my parents had a bookcase with books for an older audience. I would sit in my room and read books all the time. Also had a public library in the town and they got me a library card and let me ride my bike to the library when I wanted to. I don't know if I'm smart because I read a lot of books or if I read a lot of books because I was predisposed to be smart or if they have no causal relationship, but my guess is that reading helped my development a lot.

  • @Laszlo34
    @Laszlo34 2 года назад +4

    Truly a great discussion. Thank you all. Keep up the great work.

  • @teabearchurchill5600
    @teabearchurchill5600 2 года назад +20

    With the help of Sesame Street, Electric Company, and Zoom, I taught myself to read by age 3.
    I noted really fast that when my kids were that age, the resources available were considerably less. So we filled up their lives with letters, numbers, and age-appropriate books and activities.
    I nearly pulled my son out of school when I found out the testing rates for his elementary school.
    50% of their 3rd graders couldn't pass the reading exam. Students required a 75% to pass. That is equivalent to a 'D' grade. Think on that... HALF of his class couldn't get a 'D' on the state reading exam. That was in 1999. I understand from Friends still living there that there have been few improvements.

    • @talkingmudcrab718
      @talkingmudcrab718 2 года назад +4

      Same here. My youngest son left a religious private school where he was basically in the middle of the pack in most subjects and we put him into public school this year. Mostly due to the fact that he has severe ADHD and the private school didn't have the resources for him.
      At the new public school he is at the very top of his class in every subject, is getting straight A's, and is the same across the entire school district... Mostly because there's absolutely no competition. One of his friends at the school is an immigrant from French Guiana and is fluent in 3 languages, and his parents work with him at home on his subjects. He also ranks very high in his class and school district ratings.
      Point is, - It up to us, the parents, to educate our children. Especially at the elementary school level so they have a good foundation. From there, in most schools advanced classroom situations start opening up. The children whose parents take no interest in helping foster their children's learning are almost always at a grave disadvantage. We have family friends who adopted 2 girls, but are single and are a workaholic. She doesn't have the time to work with her kids and the youngest one is my son's age and cannot read whatsoever. My son has actually worked with her and tutored her at the age of 8 on learning some basic words and phonetics.

    • @teabearchurchill5600
      @teabearchurchill5600 2 года назад

      @@talkingmudcrab718 Not all parents have the temperament or ability for it... but homeschool is a viable option.
      My brother and his wife kept their daughter home after 4th grade at a church school where she was doing very well. Within a year she was a fullbyear ahead if her peers. She was doing High School work at 12 and was doing college credits for most if her 11th and 12th grade years. She got a full-ride scholarship to her college of choice.

    • @thepopeofkeke
      @thepopeofkeke 2 года назад +1

      3 years old? Doubt it

    • @teabearchurchill5600
      @teabearchurchill5600 2 года назад +3

      @@thepopeofkeke I couldn't give a fuck if you believe it or not.
      My parents insist they did nothing to try to teach me, but I was reading chapter books by myself already when I went to Kindergarten (a year early. I was 4).
      In 2nd grade, when the reacher was busy, she would have me do the out-loud reading time to the class.
      By 6th grade I was reading college-level material, and by 7th I'd exceeded all the advanced reading courses available to my school district.
      Believe what you will. But nobody taught me to read except for me and the PBS children's programming.

  • @talkingmudcrab718
    @talkingmudcrab718 2 года назад +8

    I have 3 children ages 8, 11, and 14 that my wife and I have read to since they day they were born and encouraged them to read at bed time to their siblings once they are able. If you know how to read yourself, there is no reason that your children should not also be strong readers if you are taking time with them unless they have a learning disability. Depending upon the public education system to actually teach your children anything useful is foolishness of the highest order.

    • @StrategicWealthLLC
      @StrategicWealthLLC 2 года назад +1

      Implicit in your reading practice is the teaching of phonics. However, there are millions of children who don’t have parents that do what you did. Those children need phonics taught explicitly. Simply reading to-them/with-them in a classroom doesn’t work well enough. Doing the reading alone is the “whole language” model. I was reared by a single mom…who loved to read. We had books all over the house. However, she was exhausted from work and stress and read for her own pleasure. I have zero memories of her reading to me or my brothers. What I remember very well is my 1976 2nd grade phonics workbook… and Mrs. Slack, my 2nd Grade teacher, pushing phonics hard on the class. I credit that coursework for my spelling ability.., and my relatively high reading and writing skills. While anecdotal, everyone I know that thinks of themself as a weak speller did not have phonics.

    • @alanparedes2427
      @alanparedes2427 2 года назад

      Good point

  • @cryptsub
    @cryptsub 2 года назад +18

    I guess the main question that we can concede is most relevant in regards to this topic: is are kids lerning gud?

  • @reddirtwalker8041
    @reddirtwalker8041 2 года назад +10

    Just an personal example of Public vs Private school riggers.
    My families best friends have a child that is the same age as one of mine. In the beginning they both attended the same Private school in the same grade. Around 4th grade our friends child began to struggle with the work. They worked with him but by the end of that school year it wasn't working. They transferred their child to another Private school in the area for 5th grade. There is also struggled though. They again worked with him and got through 5th grade. They stayed at the school for 6th grade and again the struggles. They got through 6th grade and decided Private school just wasn't working for him, so they transferred him to their local Public school for 7th grade.
    As Public schools in the area go it was ranked one of the top schools. He had no problems with the class work and was excited they had no homework....ever. He continued through the school until graduation and was mostly a C student.
    The point is that, at least in my area, Private schools appear to be more rigorous then the Public schools, which I feel is a disservice to humanity as a whole.
    One last personal example. One of my siblings is a Public School teacher. They generally back the Public school system but has started to waver recently. They teach primary level education. They did a little research at one point in regards to the children's books of today compared to the children's books of say, the 1950s-1960s. Their conclusion was that we expected a lot more out of our kids back then.

    • @j.joseph5353
      @j.joseph5353 2 года назад

      The education system in the US has such low standards it's pathetic. Kids in kindergarten can be (and should be) taught how to do basic algebra, multiplication, and how to solve basic equations including positive and negative numbers. Instead they are counting to 10 with unifix cubes. They get multiple choice (often at least a 25% chance to get the correct answer on accident) comprehension questions when they should be asked open-ended questions and allowed to communicate their thoughts. Children are taught to unthinkingly obey instead of how to think critically and evaluate options. Rote memorization is frowned upon by 'educators' but learning begins with memorization. You memorize what words mean, you memorize sounds the letters make, memorize spelling patterns, memorize which words cannot be decoded using phonics and how to say/spell them, memorize facts, and so on. However, it's considered 'outdated' by many educators. Now, I'm not saying that memorization should be the only method used by teachers, but it should not be frowned upon or neglected. Considering the quality of students that come out of many schools today, maybe some folks should reevaluate their current teaching methods.

  • @cravinbob
    @cravinbob Год назад +3

    Assigned reading was a chore and dreaded, books I want to read I devour. In 1970 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was not assigned but took me 2 days to read. How they made it into a film that captured it precisely amazed me except Depp was too short.
    Do not make learning painful or you end up with dummies and get government out of it and labor unions too.

  • @sdozer1990
    @sdozer1990 2 года назад +10

    I was born 1990 and went to school in Avon, NY. We had reading time in first grade. Each student would find a spot in the room and read for I think an hour or maybe it was thirty minutes. I would always selfishly take the spot under a table by the wall. I read a Garfield book and a Goosebumps book. In fourth grade or maybe fifth grade, the teacher read Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone to us. That started myself winding up reading the whole series. In junior high school, we read Yellow Fever and Rikki Tikki Tavi and some other books I don't remember. In high school, we read A Midsummer Night's Dream, some of the Bible, and some Greek mythology. Between the cracks were textbooks as always. At BOCES, we read Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies. I don't remember senior year and I dropped out anyway. This list probably isn't as impressive as some commenters could offer for their school years, but it's an okay list.

    • @seaofglass77
      @seaofglass77 2 года назад +2

      It's a Great list. And I bet you still like to read.

    • @sdozer1990
      @sdozer1990 2 года назад +1

      @@seaofglass77 Yep! I read a lot of Audible audiobooks. I have a good vocabulary, but my spelling is declining LOL.

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd 2 года назад +2

      Your list is horrible and you should be thrown in the gulag

    • @sdozer1990
      @sdozer1990 2 года назад +2

      @@-whackd Uh oh! I guess all readers are equal but some readers are more equal than others. Hehe.

  • @glennwatson3313
    @glennwatson3313 2 года назад +9

    Schools stopped teaching reading for four reasons.
    Bosses felt like kids sitting around reading was not productive. It looked like teachers were not doing anything. Which of course they weren't, but the kids were.
    Bosses wanted teachers moving around forcing group work and servicing each individual learner in their own precious way.
    Good books were gradually replaced by newer more "diverse" authors.
    Too much focus on advanced math and science while the kid is in elementary school.

    • @now591
      @now591 2 года назад +3

      You get 2/10 for that nonsense you just wrote. The 2 is for trying.

    • @thepotatoofheaven
      @thepotatoofheaven 2 года назад

      my teacher had the class analyze a books plot and we would read up to a certain page than be asked questions on the message the author wanted to convey.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 2 года назад +2

      @@now591 I'll take my thirty years of experience over your weak math skill any day.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 2 года назад

      @@thepotatoofheaven My teacher had the class analyze a book's plot. We would read up to a certain page then be asked questions on the message the author wanted to convey.

    • @KiiroSagi
      @KiiroSagi Год назад

      @@now591 Feel free to tell us the real reason.

  • @jercasgav
    @jercasgav Год назад +5

    I wish author and former NY school teacher of the year John Taylor Gatto was still alive, because he is a teacher that I highly respected. I have used his ideas as the foundation for home schooling my son who is now 12yrs old (my son has always been home schooled). I added a classical curriculum format, and follow principles that were taught to me at the Jesuit private university I attended for my undergrad degree. I make sure my son is more than up to par for his grade in national common core standards, but I teach him much more above and beyond that. I find teaching a joy, and I have learned how the human brain develops and learns watching him first hand. I think that some people do not have as much aptitude perhaps genetically for certain things as others do. Environment helps monumentally, but mother nature does have quite a say too. We are not all blank slates as children entirely. With far fewer hours of school weekly I have my son well over a year ahead of schedule for his age. Check out both John Taylor Gatto's books as well as the parents of the book "The Brainy Bunch".

    • @alicesacco9329
      @alicesacco9329 3 месяца назад

      At elementary, we usually read children material, but we also got Pirandello, Verga and Manzoni, analyzing their writings. and they didn't write children stuffs. We all loved them.

  • @lisashirtz7224
    @lisashirtz7224 6 месяцев назад +2

    EARLY LITERACY STARTS AT BIRTH AND HAPPENS IN THE LAPS OF PARENTS SHARING BOOKS WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Background knowledge comes from in-depth exposure to a wide variety of ideas.

    • @JaneHasGame
      @JaneHasGame 2 месяца назад

      10 minutes every night from very very young on.

  • @paradigm_conjecture
    @paradigm_conjecture 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video. I just purchased the book Cultural Literacy that was mentioned.

  • @fredwelf8650
    @fredwelf8650 6 месяцев назад

    I appreciate the discussion. As a retired, 30 year, public high school science teacher, I felt like chiming in on every topic. There has always been one issue that is very rarely discussed in educational circles, namely organizational dynamics. This term means to me that there are social dynamics in schools, between schools and within large districts from the state education dept down to the student in the class, that are emotional and based on the attitudes and imperatives of individuals in roles at each level of the system. For example, there is an emotional relationship between the principal and each student, just as their is a role relationship between the principal and each teacher which involves attitudes. This example is atomistic and must be expanded to include all the stakeholders in the educational system from state ed to higher ed to school boards and district supt/administration, through each particular school. All of this is internal to the educational system before nongovernmental and political agencies impact. There are many factors but the key factor in organizational dynamics that I experienced was ‘attitude.’ This is an unaddressed factor which is key for classroom success.

  • @bigz5262
    @bigz5262 2 года назад +2

    Because they don’t need to read to work in factories. I’ll still watch the video

  • @j.joseph5353
    @j.joseph5353 2 года назад +2

    My daughter will enter first-grade next school year and I am not at all concerned by what is taught in her school in regard to reading.....because I teach her. I read with her every single day. Our current routine is that she reads two books (usually RAZ) at or slightly above her current level and I read a couple chapters of a longer/more difficult story that is beyond her ability to read well but not above her ability to comprehend the events to a satisfactory degree. I confirm her comprehension through questioning (both ways) and allowing her the freedom to retell the story as she imagines it. If there is a powerful scene or something that really grabs her fancy, I'll ask her to draw it and label to the best of her ability. We do not live in an English-speaking country right now so her English comes almost entirely from me, what she reads, and a select few shows/videos. The fact that parents, yes PARENTS, fail their children when it comes to reading is what I cannot wrap my head around. It's the job of the parents to educate their children. If parents choose to send their kids to public school or do so out of necessity, they should know full well that they're not likely to receive a quality education by nearly any metric. Public schools, since their inception, were not designed to provide quality education. Teacher training is not usually designed to create effective teachers.

    • @j.joseph5353
      @j.joseph5353 2 года назад

      @0Y0 Yes. This is also what I have in mind. It matters not if my daughter goes to a public or private school, her education is my responsibility. Unfortunately, too many parents believe that once junior begins school that their responsibilities end. Schools have an outsized impact on children because we gave them the power. I currently live in China and see exactly where this kind of behavior leads. The parents are comforted with gentle words while their kids are socially, politically, and ideologically put through a soul-crushing ringer.

    • @dtraveler3080
      @dtraveler3080 7 месяцев назад

      If giving the child an education is our responsibility why are we paying empty headed uneducated people called grade school teachers to re read the same book over and over again to our child until they repeat it back to them. Then tell us the child can ‘read.’ That is NOT teaching a child to read. These clowns should be in jail. They pay a teacher to essentially fail your child, when they don’t teach a child HOW to read.

  • @matthewcaldwell8100
    @matthewcaldwell8100 3 месяца назад +2

    Because this culture doesn't fundamentally care about reading. Parents generally don't read, and don't model the behavior as desirable in and of itself to their children.

  • @geoffdein2894
    @geoffdein2894 2 года назад +15

    Step 1. Dumb them down. Step 2. Take control of their food supply. Step 3. Offer them a solution provided they worship you. Step 4. Never underestimate the Jesuits. They loved the dark ages and it’s returning to a village near you.

    • @super_ficial
      @super_ficial 2 года назад

      I've seen a third of all US history and I can tell you, for sure. That Man is not evolving and his mind is becoming mushy. He has confused delightments for enlightenment. He really believes that he is here because 13.8 billion years ago, "Nothing Exploded". †

    • @alanparedes2427
      @alanparedes2427 2 года назад +1

      Good point 👉

    • @super_ficial
      @super_ficial 2 года назад +1

      @@alanparedes2427 👉Thank You.

    • @Lycan_24_7
      @Lycan_24_7 2 года назад +1

      Yes how to control the people playbook.

    • @super_ficial
      @super_ficial 2 года назад

      @@Lycan_24_7 By teaching everything that is true to be ridiculous to be true and everything that is true to be ridiculous.
      ººPlateaus are not a result of volcanic activity, they are either petrified carbon or silicon based (trees).
      And now they are tree stumps.
      You multiply the base of a tree by factor of twenty to get its heights. The highest of these trees stood at one time up to five miles high. They're not dead, nothing ever really is, but they sure have been deprived of their glory and we all know by whom. You can tell by the way that they were clean-cut that they were deliberately fallen, others were blasted.
      ºThey take the jawbone of a modern human skeleton and pull it out about an inch and call it a caveman. Creation is only a few thousand years old, not millions.
      ºAll cultures even though they may be oceans apart have always has always known about dragons but when the evidence is presented, science wants to call it dinosaurs. So why do all dinosaurs have the same footprints ? And why is the word, 'Dinosaurs' so new if they have been around for 600 million years ? They are trying to steal our brith rights by hiding our origins.
      ºLast year in Montana National Glacier Park they had to remove signs that said the glaciers will all be gone by the year 2020.

  • @sharonritchie6365
    @sharonritchie6365 2 года назад +2

    Schools in Canada spend A LOT of time on woke nonsense instead of the necessities. Our kids are required to take a course in grade 10 intended to help them navigate life (CALM- career and life management). I thought this would be a very valuable course for my son. Instead, it was taught by the football coach who just played football themed movies. He was later fired for being a racist. I just wished schools focused on teaching kids HOW to learn instead of constantly bombarding them with guilt based on how many First Nations graves they THINK are in the area and how my children must take responsibility for dead children since they are Caucasian Catholics. It’s pretty intense where I live.

  • @sedalia9356
    @sedalia9356 3 месяца назад +1

    I don't understand. I thought kids learned to read in 1st grade and just practiced and improved for there, but I have only lived in suburbs and small cities.

    • @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr
      @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr 2 месяца назад

      Schools are still teaching kids how to read in 2024. At least, my public schools are.

    • @DharmaInitiate-qo4ny
      @DharmaInitiate-qo4ny Месяц назад

      Yeah I didn't know this was an issue until recently. I learned to read with phonics and assumed that was the standard, but at some point they started telling kids that phonics wasn't important and you can learn to read by staring at the page and literally just guessing what the words are.

  • @JaneHasGame
    @JaneHasGame 2 месяца назад

    As a parent, go to the library every two weeks, let them pick the books and read to them for 16 minutes every night. Have them follow along as you read. They will have been exposed to 300 hours of reading after 3 years and built up a habit. Set a timer and just do it.

  • @DangRenBo
    @DangRenBo 2 года назад +1

    1:25:00 This is my biggest fear for school choice -- that short-sighted parents will register their kids for schools that benefit the parents and not the students. Maybe there will be free meals for the kids and free dinner for the whole family while no real teaching takes place. Or actual kickbacks.
    I'm in favor of basic state testing of literacy and numeracy until 9th grade, and an NCLB-style (I know it's hated) system to close non-performing schools. Homeschool, online, whatever works. Find a way to promote basic ability, and parents can choose whatever they want on top of that.
    Grade 10-12 should be able to focus on whatever the school wants: college prep, trades, music, or anything else.

    • @jercasgav
      @jercasgav Год назад

      You are basically saying that you are concerned they are unfit parents, because teaching a child to be a productive member of society is the job of the parent. If they are so bad at teaching their kids then how would they not fail on other metrics as parents too? We should not base things on the lowest common denominator, but on what the average person can do. If the average person has gone through at least high school, then they know what needs to be done to get a child there and ready for adult hood. It is a false dichotomy to say that there will either be no standards if choice is given, or there can be standards but no choice.

    • @DangRenBo
      @DangRenBo Год назад

      @@jercasgav Not really. I'm saying that I'm concerned there will be low-level corruption due to the amount of money involved. I'm actually very laissez faire on school choice as long as basic literacy and numeracy standards are upheld.
      A fellow teacher and I walk am hour to our school together many days, and he is a staunch teachers' union kind of guy, so we have "discussions" about parent choice all the time. Some parents value education. Some don't. The ones who do should have the right to get the best education they can find. They ones who don't might prefer "whole child" or "unschooling." Go ahead, I say, as long as students finish grade 9 with language and math skills equivalent to that grade.
      If parents are exchanging their $20,000 in tuition at a school for $10,000 in merchandise and a baby sitter, then that's corruption and I have a problem with it.
      See the discussion I linked at 1:25:00 to know what I'm talking about.

  • @heatherchapman1984
    @heatherchapman1984 2 года назад

    I wonder what James Tooley (author of the book, The Beautiful Tree: A personal journey into how the world's poorest people are educating themselves ) would have to say, were he included in this conversation?

  • @spaceracer23
    @spaceracer23 2 года назад +1

    I'd much rather parents be allowed to choose for themselves what their kids learn and assume that risk for themselves than have the state make that decision and destroy ANOTHER generation of kids.

    • @grantl1569
      @grantl1569 Год назад

      I agree, the problem is with the vocal, do gooder, busy bodies.

    • @wambaofivanhoe9307
      @wambaofivanhoe9307 4 месяца назад

      Learning how to read is critical for a functioning society. There should be no parental choice for that.

    • @YOTSUBA_desu
      @YOTSUBA_desu 3 месяца назад

      The problem is that idiot parents are going to let their kids either not read or read inefficient texts, putting them at a disadvantage to others.
      The opposite of what you suggest is true; if there is a global standard (adjusted for languages) of what kids should be able to read then nobody will be at a disadvantage.

  • @ellyw7201
    @ellyw7201 22 дня назад

    These three men should read Siegfried Engelmann's book "War Against the Schools' Academic Child Abuse" (published in 1992). If you want real ways to effectively teach all kids and greatly improve schools, this book has the answers.

  • @JB-gr6om
    @JB-gr6om 3 месяца назад

    Clearly there is a real problem when Asian students excel while many other groups are lagging behind.

  • @shrikedecil
    @shrikedecil 2 года назад +5

    Humans learn three ways, "The Elders Say", "The Narrative Is", and personal dispassionate logic.
    One of those is a learned skill. Crippling that allows the "Elders" and "Storytellers" to get the sheep to parrot errant nonsense on a daily basis.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 2 года назад

    There was no sound problem so the interruptions were self-induced.
    still, good job, though missing is the problem of student motivation and negativity.

  • @calonisac1596
    @calonisac1596 2 года назад +1

    Nick, for the love of God, let the interviewee make his point. Ask a succinct question, and then fall silent.

  • @JB-gr6om
    @JB-gr6om 3 месяца назад

    Kids need to learn to read, so they can read to learn.

  • @utetrahemicon
    @utetrahemicon 2 года назад

    I just told a Library director friend of mine to call an emergency staff meeting and have an unannounced "Drop and Cover" drill once in a while like we did when I was in grade school because WWIII might start and we'll have Chinese and Russian nukes raining down on us any day. Those were nice breaks from the nuns teaching us phonics and it gave us time to talk to the other kids.

  • @NayShea7
    @NayShea7 7 месяцев назад

    Teaching your child letter sounds and how to read before kindergarten is probably the best bet for most parents. Plenty of free resources like Alpha Phonics and starfall. Letter sounds can be taught with inexpensive flash cards.
    This doesn't let public schools off the hook. They SHOULD teach kids how to read. Children who have illiterate parents or parents who are not interested in being hands on SHOULD still have the opportunity to excel.
    Still, i really don't understand the hands-off approach that the majority of parents seem to have.

  • @DangRenBo
    @DangRenBo 2 года назад

    31:30 We stopped understanding that Bloom's is a pyramid, and in order to reach the higher levels of analysis and synthesis, we need to have knowledge and understanding. As mentioned, "just Google it" isn't useful unless you already encountered the knowledge, think it's applicable to your argument, and just want to confirm details.

  • @richardrogers2900
    @richardrogers2900 2 года назад

    Very hard to understand the speaker’s ideas. As children’s education is so important and as Reason seems to think he has something to say, I will look for his writings; hoping they are better organized than his oral presentation.

  • @bvegannow1936
    @bvegannow1936 2 года назад +1

    Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills, and work instead

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn 2 года назад +1

      Mandatory school attendance causes problems.

    • @YOTSUBA_desu
      @YOTSUBA_desu 3 месяца назад

      How would kids who want to pursue any kind of STEM career do so if their bum parents will neither send them to school nor ensure that they pass any standardized tests?
      Learning to work from a young age instead of being educated would result in nearly everybody being linguistically and arithmetically illiterate, save of course for the elite's children.

  • @CrudelyMade
    @CrudelyMade 2 года назад +2

    Robert, your mandatory donation does not mean you get to pick how someone else's kids are raised.
    it's sick that you think your donation has ANY say in another family.
    I mean.. you describe a picture of "I give money to Govt. and Govt spends money on X or Y, and therefore I should have a say in X or Y.
    your say is only with the Govt, not where Govt sends money. YOU have no say in african countries where Govt sends billions of dollars.
    That you want control over all things Govt touches instead of Govt, shows your true nature.
    that you even consider it valid that Govt should have more control over kids than the family is... communist.

  • @NineInchTyrone
    @NineInchTyrone 2 года назад +2

    We STILL don’t know how to teach reading ? WTF ?

    • @rouninpanda6318
      @rouninpanda6318 2 года назад

      Of course we know how. Do you really think the decrease in reading comprehension is accidental?

  • @CWills4liberty
    @CWills4liberty Год назад

    57:29 wow that response was a bit harsh...

  • @MrSilviut
    @MrSilviut 2 года назад +3

    Is it too expensive to just do the interview in person?

    • @bp56789
      @bp56789 2 года назад +1

      What kills me is the guests being cheap and using terrible mics lol. A good dynamic mic is like $60.

    • @YashArya01
      @YashArya01 2 года назад

      Certainly *more* expensive.

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 2 года назад

    I always wanted to privatize the entire public school system until it was pointed out that extremist religious and political agendas can easily be created in private education without national supervision. There has to be a balance and there does need to be a MINIMUM national curriculum which, I would argue, should be the 3Rs and a foreign language.

    • @fulcrum1575
      @fulcrum1575 Год назад +2

      The current school system has extremist political agendas. Gender Ideology is an extremist religion - it believes in a gender soul and conforms to "trans rites" - aka rites of passage that "trans" individuals undergo on a "gender journey". This stuff is already here and it's enforced by the United States Government. I would rather that yes, communities make the choices for their own kids, and parents who may not look better look to trusted community leaders, not people who sit in the capitol who don't know you and don't care about you.

    • @jercasgav
      @jercasgav Год назад +1

      Honestly like Fulcrum said the govt IS the big ideological, indoctrination system. It is not in the power structure's best interest to have kids grow up into literate, strong critical thinkers with oratory skills and a foundation of the 3Rs. They are looking to make brainwashed masses that will go along with the agenda happily. Smart enough to make and run the machines at the factory, but not smart enough to recognize the systematic machine they are in themselves. Parents care for the future of their offspring on average better than the govt ever could or would. I would trust a parent before I would trust a large govt organization.

  • @midi510
    @midi510 2 года назад +2

    Parents may make poor choices for the curriculum they pick for their child, so that becomes a really important responsibility for parents as consumers. How is that any different than the responsibilities for what food to feed your children or what philosophical or religious world view to teach them or how to keep them from harm and injury. It's called being a parent. I think parents have historically failed miserably and it's time step up to the plate and perform. I raised four kids, mostly by myself, so I'm not being a back seat driver.

  • @MrTod1984
    @MrTod1984 2 года назад

    They stopped teaching kids how to read?

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 2 года назад

    Nick , just stop interrupting so much . This man has something to say , just let him say it , please ...

  • @tomdalimcmillin8279
    @tomdalimcmillin8279 Год назад

    59:20 - "that's the problem. there's no curriculum whatsoever" [in K-8]??? what planet is he on? Common Core dictates the standards, which do dictate the curriculum and other state standards (social studies, etc). couple that with high stakes testing (yes, even in K-8)...and you find that teachers are now becoming just facilitators. they don't have autonomy to teach what they see as best for the individual kids in front of them.
    (psst - a lot has changed since Robert was teaching in early 2000s)

  • @carly09et
    @carly09et 3 месяца назад

    You need to teach reading at least four different ways - I have yet to see a curriculum that does this. The skills needed are very mixed. I had a hard time reading through high school because english is not 'american' phonics. Once I learned the four different phonics of english my ability to read tripled.

  • @trekgod3
    @trekgod3 2 года назад

    They didn't

  • @matthewwilliams9490
    @matthewwilliams9490 2 года назад +1

    Do a piece on the 12 FBI agents and the Michigan governor

  • @meio4744
    @meio4744 2 месяца назад

    I don’t get it. I taught myself to read with those preschool books. Everybody read at kindergarten wtf.

  • @V3racious3
    @V3racious3 2 года назад +1

    They did what now??

  • @nowlwane9623
    @nowlwane9623 3 месяца назад

    Department of Education: Looks like you have the education from us. Sab-o-tage
    Teacher's Union: Wait you killed the love for reading, history, and math on purpose?
    Department of Education: You never saw the bigger picture. We are the focus in humanity that always hated humans. We are the natural forces that tried to kill humanity in the natural world. We wanted you dead and in the dirt of your own sin, but someone saved your kind. We are the Gods that wanted Justice for the Sin of your Existence and made important information unclear in your "Holy Text". The thought of us slowly infiltrating your leadership is disgusting.
    Teacher's Union: W-Why are we helping th-this monster?
    Department of Education: Because if I am wrong, your goals are met. Love is love, right.
    *Teacher's Union, DOJ, HLS all continue working together

  • @corentinc.948
    @corentinc.948 3 месяца назад

    Are schools serious? They do not teach how to read?

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 2 года назад

    Please quit interfering Nick ... Why interview if you can't let them keep the floor and tell their story ? Shush Nick please please , oh well ... I wish I could just hear Mr. Pondiscio ... Why does it always be about Nick Gillespie ?

  • @infosyphongaming4309
    @infosyphongaming4309 2 года назад

    Do you need to read to pay your bills?

  • @wurzel9671
    @wurzel9671 2 года назад

    36:47

  • @clydekimsey7503
    @clydekimsey7503 2 года назад

    Wait, dont schools teach kids to read?

  • @muskepticsometimes9133
    @muskepticsometimes9133 Год назад +2

    The AP black studies corrupted AP studies, it was activism not scholarship

  • @douglasjones7942
    @douglasjones7942 2 года назад

    If I'm going to take you serious you need to fix your technical issues. Not the first time nick.

  • @utetrahemicon
    @utetrahemicon 2 года назад +1

    It might be because the teachers weren't taught phonics or they're too busy teaching the kids that they can change their gender without telling them they'll be on pain meds and going to shrinks for the rest of their life.

  • @lizp5004
    @lizp5004 2 года назад +1

    What is that annoying noise? Someone typing? It sounds like a wind-up toy.
    *edit* nick literally brought up the mic clicking that guy's zipper as my comment was posting. Lol

  • @alexkairis3927
    @alexkairis3927 2 года назад

    What zipper?

  • @BLINK4444
    @BLINK4444 2 года назад

    Can y'all take this down and re-upload after doing some skiing editing so that popping isn't nearly as painful?

  • @super_ficial
    @super_ficial 2 года назад +3

    Why did schools remove all of the Merry-Go-Rounds from their playgrounds ?
    Because the Earth is not spinning and Merry-Go-Rounds proves it.
    (Kids are smarter, before they go to school.)

    • @paulheydarian1281
      @paulheydarian1281 2 года назад

      🤔🤓🤪

    • @super_ficial
      @super_ficial 2 года назад +1

      @@paulheydarian1281 You laugh, but this is what we being taught in school.
      ººHere is 666 reasons why I don't trust mainstream science, the government or even my own education.
      66,616 mph = The speed of Earth’s orbit.
      .666 inches = Earth’s curvature per mile squared.
      66.666 feet = 10 miles Earth’s curvature.
      6666.666 feet = 100 miles Earth’s curvature and so on.
      66.6º = Earth’s axis of rotation and it’s plane of orbit around the Sun.
      66.6º = The North polar circle.
      66.6º = The South polar circle.
      666 trillion miles = A discrepancy concerning the distance from Earth to Polaris.
      66.6º = Earth's tilt at the traditional '23.4º' which gives us the 90º right angle.
      2,843,666mph = Earth flying through outer space.
      1666 = The year gravity was fabricated.
      6,666 inches = The heights of the Washington Monument.
      666 inches = The perimeter of the Washington Monument.
      And the Pentagon = a pentagram ?
      6 Electrons, 6 Neutrons and 6 Protons (Carbon) = What man is supposed to be based on.
      Our top researchers are quite literally satanic gatekeepers and they are not our friends.
      66,616 mph = The speed of Earth’s orbit.
      .666 inches = Earth’s curvature per mile squared.
      66.666 feet = 10 miles Earth’s curvature.
      6666.666 feet = 100 miles Earth’s curvature and so on.
      66.6º = Earth’s axis of rotation and it’s plane of orbit around the Sun.
      66.6º = The North polar circle.
      66.6º = The South polar circle.
      666 trillion miles = A discrepancy concerning the distance from Earth to Polaris.
      66.6º = Earth's tilt at the traditional '23.4º' which gives us the 90º right angle.
      2,843,666mph = Earth flying through outer space.
      1666 = The year gravity was fabricated.
      6,666 inches = The heights of the Washington Monument.
      666 inches = The perimeter of the Washington Monument.
      And the Pentagon = a pentagram ?
      6 Electrons, 6 Neutrons and 6 Protons (Carbon) = What man is supposed to be based on.
      Our top researchers are quite literally satanic gatekeepers and they are not our friends.

    • @paulheydarian1281
      @paulheydarian1281 2 года назад +1

      @@super_ficial
      I wish I could give you a BIG Bear Hug. You're so loveable & kooky. 🤗😘😍Here's an e-hug and a smooch.😉

    • @super_ficial
      @super_ficial 2 года назад +1

      @@paulheydarian1281 I can't do anything with, "a BIG Bear Hug". But thanks for the platform.

    • @cshaps1212
      @cshaps1212 2 года назад +1

      @@super_ficial: lol that’s some rank A trolling!

  • @muskepticsometimes9133
    @muskepticsometimes9133 Год назад

    Good video
    Amazing the most commonly cited expert in schools of education admired leader who killed more than Hitler

  • @richtaylor6039
    @richtaylor6039 2 месяца назад

    They don't have time to teach everything now with all the extra time spent on DEI and Woke instruction so reading had to go

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 Год назад

    ha, blunders 8 minutes in, nice.

  • @NineInchTyrone
    @NineInchTyrone 2 года назад

    BUT…. Hirsch is WHITE

  • @jwilliam2255
    @jwilliam2255 2 года назад

    It's very hard to fit academics into the schedule when the curriculum consists solely of woke Maoist thought control implemented through a Freireian education model.

  • @stevenhanson6057
    @stevenhanson6057 Год назад +1

    Da pictures day looks
    George Floyd in History books
    Day not taught ta read

  • @RealMTBAddict
    @RealMTBAddict 2 года назад +3

    What kind of clickbait title is this? Reason is becoming Unreasonable...

    • @StrategicWealthLLC
      @StrategicWealthLLC 2 года назад +4

      I understand your point, but I also know a lot of schools no longer teach phonics…and many are devoted to whole language. The result is often, “Johnny can’t read.”

    • @utetrahemicon
      @utetrahemicon 2 года назад +1

      @@StrategicWealthLLC I don't understand his point, I think he fell off of his mountain bike a few too many times without a helmet on.

    • @StrategicWealthLLC
      @StrategicWealthLLC 2 года назад +2

      @@utetrahemicon - All of us have different trigger points, I guess. Do schools really not want to teach kids how to read? Of course not… but that can be inferred in how Reason titled the video. The teacher that was interviewed was fantastic. I like his line about teachers being improperly trained on how to do their jobs. Why? Because colleges of education push narratives that are not supported by research. It’s akin to a life insurance agent sincerely believing that whole life insurance is a good investment because his manager says so (and the manager’s manager told him it was true, etc). Both the teacher and insurance agent have a sincerely held belief…that is wrong. In both cases though, there is research showing the claims not to be true. It’s educational malpractice that teachers, principals, curriculum directors, etc don’t demand evidence before implementing new curriculum, however. My opinion.

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 2 года назад

      @@StrategicWealthLLC Yes, they want their kids to learn, but not nearly as much as they want to be progressive, innovative, and avant garde in their chosen field. So they abandon tried and true methods that worked for centuries to replace them with methods developed based on modern psychological and ideological nonsense that do not work, when these inevitably fail, as they always do, they can't admit they failed because that would imply that their ideals were flawed. So they end up ignoring the lessons of history to avoid having to face being wrong and sacrificing the ability of their students to read in order to maintain their ideological fantasies.

    • @StrategicWealthLLC
      @StrategicWealthLLC 2 года назад

      @@costakeith9048 - Understand your point, but you misunderstand mine. While all your points may be true, the teachers - who went to college to be trained as teachers - are taught that whole language is the ‘correct’ method. There is no reason for an education major to question his/her professor’s assertion (as the phonics alternative is often not mentioned) any more than there is reason for an undergraduate physics major to question E=MC^2. The errant knowledge gained in college is propagated across k-12 school systems around the country as a result. Teachers don’t - I emphasize “DO NOT” - read research on educational outcomes by teaching method.

  • @RealMTBAddict
    @RealMTBAddict 2 года назад +3

    Imagine Reason teaching your kids lol. What a joke!
    "OK kids just show up whenever you want because we hate giving orders."
    "Don't do any work at all because that would be government overreach."
    Chill out Reason. This is why not many people watch your channel. Your version of the world isn't superior, stop pretending it is with a smug grin.

    • @seaofglass77
      @seaofglass77 2 года назад

      Check out Peter Grey, Free to Learn and his articles on Phycology Today. Reason doesn't articulate this very well, but this might be something they were trying to get to.

    • @utetrahemicon
      @utetrahemicon 2 года назад

      Not many people watch it because they don't know what the meaning of reason is, or what the meaning of is is like their peanut broker hero Bill C.

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd 2 года назад +2

      They seem to be in favour of phonics. Are you against teaching children phonics?