Excellent work and also the points at the end (40 minutes flew by) where you mention the practicality of the improvement with regard to cost. So many will see something like this and say the manufacturer should have it built in, but then probably wouldn't be willing to pay the extra cost for the upgrade even if it was done in the most cost effective way.
John - the sad thing is that the manufacturer will probably steal it and integrate it into the design - without doing the right thing and purchasing the design from Marius. I remember Craftsman stealing the Bionic Wrench, or Black and Decker stealing the Workmate Workbench literally 10 minutes after the inventor pitched the idea to them (I happen to know the inventor.) It's total BS.
@@TheSpud1129 No, the truly sad thing is that you and so many other people think that way. Manufacturers don't need to "steal" ideas like this, despite the two examples (out of billions) you hold up to prove the rule.
@@JohnHeisz well some Manufactures certainly are not above idea theft, it is kind of the spirit of engineering. Taking ideas you see from something and using them in a different way that suits the requirements of a given project. Maybe its like music, everything has already been written or invented we just mix it up and call it new. Either way this video as you said flew by. I would think this would lead to more job offers then people who want to steal his ideas.
@@JohnHeisz John - not saying that they all do steal ideas, but - the sad thing is that some do. I'd hate to be the Inventor of the Bionic Wrench, go to a sales pitch meeting (totally legit) with Craftsman to pitch the idea, be told that it isn't practical - and then have them reproduce it INSTANTLY after I left. I'd like to imagine that he's doing ok for himself - but to have unlimited funds and the speed to mass-produce very quickly - with zero repercussions or fear of getting sued - would be a major kick in the balls. I've been in the industry now for 27 going on 28 years, and there was a time in my life where I was directed to "modify" someones idea that was pitched to my employer. Naturally, I refused...and they gave the project to someone else to complete. It happens a lot more than you could imagine. Being an engineer, designer, woodworker, hobbyist, I do take pride in engineering and designing components and ideas from scratch, and I take great pride in the fact that I can appreciate you and so many others on YT for your original and practical content. I've purchased quite a few plans from you (you along with Izzy, Marius, Frank and Matthias are my top 5.) Thanks for commenting and having dialogue. That's what makes it a better community and space to engage.
Awesome design. I really like the highly integrated motor mount. You should find a friend with a plasma cutter or water jet so you can avoid the lathe shenanigans to make that metal ring (though I probably would have done the same thing as you ;)
@@MariusHornberger I can't wait to see the design. You are so talented... especially in the CAD department. Felder should purchase the rights to your boot and adapt it to their 2.2kw spindle version.
@@MariusHornberger Problem: The Dust-Shoe is a bad bad boy and useless. Solution: Introduce more complexity, more tech and moving parts around this part!!! SCOTTY, I need this in 12 hours. Scotty: Captain, I will do it in 6! :)) Sorry for that joke(?) and the following, because that is a really great project and the implementation ist a Bobby Dazzler, @Marius!;) Another engineering practice (better eng-fu), most people don't know or think about is: Something doesn't work? Let's redesign it completely, or even better: Let's get RID OF IT! Researching about airflow or talking to an expert about this problem would have lead to another solution. A suction nozzle that optimally directs the airflow around the work area without any fold or mechanical overhang. Especially with the performance offered by a full-fledged industrial dust collector, this would have been a real alternative. "Luftstromhygiene" ist ja kein Hexenwerk ... also wenn man z.B. den französischen Ingenieuren von Mobylette glaubt, die uns schon seit grauer Vorzeit absolut unverständliche Ansaugstutzenformen für ihre Mofas um die Ohren hauen:) I'm just a spoilsport... sorry for that, Marius. Forgive me!:)
I was a design cost engineer, a designer’s worst nightmare, a devil’s advocate. Every engineer will design a ‘Rolls Royce’, but to make a product saleable the costs must be kept down. That said you are a magnificent engineer and FELDER should be paying you a consultant’s retainer fee. Best regards.
The design cost argument is winnable here because it is an objectively better product, which is absolutely in line with e.g. Felder and Festool business models. Factor in the liability angle where any dust is increasingly seen as a health problem plus potential for containment of milling bits breaking off and you have a good case in the real world, beyond the enclave of cost accounting. There will need to be rules for not using it on heads with any additional pitch or roll axis, but that will need a multi-axis dust shoe too.
Ron - being an engineer and designer for the last 28 years, I don't view you as "our worst nightmare" You're the voice of reason that keeps us on the straight and narrow. I'd like to think of our jobs as two fingers in a glove, without eachother, there would be massive problems.
I much prefer that he (as well as the other people like him youtube producing great stuff) isn't on the payroll of any company related to the content of his videos, though obviously not because I don't wish Marius all the success in the world.
I don't know whether You agree, but I as an engineer out in the field for three decades plus change (mostly boat building and tunnel industry machinery), I wish every cost controller and original designer had to do repair work out in the field on rainy/snowy December days shortly before sunset with "cost controlled" tooling on "cost controlled" machinery and a buncha cost controllers the customer chased on his heels *_before_* they were allowed to design even a single screwed connection ......
Wow! 'The drag chain was not big enough so I printed my own - and improved the design...' ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! How did you develop such an amazing brain for things like this? I personally can think outside the box - but you think outside the suburb! Absolutely amazing. Inspiring me to add another dimension to my projects. An honour to watch your brain at work Marius. Heck, you even have legends like John Heisz commenting and watching.
I love how Rube Goldberg you went with making that metal ring. I was expecting you to just tape it down to a board (or screw it down through the middle and leave a couple of tabs) and CNC it.
Matthias Wandel introduced me to your channel and with videos like this I can see why he's such a fan. Amazing engineering, such a pleasure to see it come together. I am enjoying the long format but I wonder if you might get more attention with things like this in 3 part series. Anyway, can't wait to see what you come up with next!
If I was the manufacturer I would buy your project simplify the manufacturing process and install process and had it built in China and sell it as an extra for the machine. Cuz you've done all the hard thinking 😂
@@Ravenousjoe agreed. Bucky Fuller would say that the next iteration would employ less material and utilize Principles to a greater degree, in a process he referred to as ephemeralization. But as a First Pass, this thing is awesome.
Nice long detailed video. I had a lot of fun watching it. Let's see if the people from Hammer will contact you soon, similar to the improvements to your sliding table saw.
Marius is a really created person. I think Hammer (Felder-group) should be aware of this modification, and have it to they CNC machine. Especially the really nice cable-thing he built. Love the clips, much nicer and smoother solution than the old solution.
This is great. And you're right, moving the dust shoe with the Z axis is super dumb. Even just a manually adjustable fixed shoe would be an improvement - 99% of the time CNC routers are cutting sheet goods of constant thickness.
I have been waiting for this video Marius. An arriving home from work on a friday to see it in the feed, made my weekend. 40 minutes of German precision engineering really flew by waaaay to fast. Great concept, and execution. A couple of Q´s: When you make the code for the cut, and a job has different tiers, say a pocket like the one for your tool tray boxes. Do you account for deeper brush position when doing a second tool operation "down" in the pocket? Or do you set the brush to material thicken (plus whatever minimal compression of the bristels you want)? and also do you edit in the 4th axis position manually, or automatically via the post processor? Great job as always Sir👍😀👍😀
Thanks man! Rigth now (and probably in the future) the brush stays at the same height during a job with multiple operations. And I also set the height manually when I make programs with Fusion360 or Aspire. But I also wrote two custom programs that run as subroutines in the control software. One is for flattening rectangulare shapes and the other for round shapes, rings and holes. Both are fully parametric and I can just type my dimensions, cutting data and hit start. And there the brush also moves down when a flattening pass is done. Since I wrote the whole program, that was easy to implement. When is your next project coming? The homemade tablesaw and boxjoint jig were awesome!
@@MariusHornberger Sounds like you have it all covered, that makes sense :) Thanks for the kind feedback Sir. Traction on my channel is really slow atm. I guess I have myself to blame for not being consistent with posting, but even if I try to ignore it, it kinda impacts the drive to make more projects. I have a lot of new ideas on the block with some really cool projects, but personal stuff also seem to eat up alot of time. Thanks for watching Btw 👍
Hätte es nicht auch eine Feder getan? Wouldn't a spring have done the same height adjustment trick? But then: there must be a more complicated way to do it. Like it none the less!
@@MariusHornberger chamferrd inside brushes, hose attached fix to z and springs around columns to adjust/reduce downforces to limit vertical load to a minimum (10g?). This doesn‘t solve it vor everything - but 80% of rather simplistic reliev carving on flat stock. I totally understand your project and fany it very much - but I‘d find it particulary interesting to find a simplistic solution to 80 % of the problem. Withiut having to strughle with a 4th dimension.
For a guy who started out on RUclips with great fit and finish to his projects and videos, you keep getting better and better. I love how you are using so many skills you have learned over time in this build, from the 3d printed parts (exceptional print results btw, mine look like shaggy dogs in comparison) to the cnc routed parts, and everything else you put into it.
I need something like this for my CNC as well. Wait, I don‘t have a CNC ... anyway, excellent job and very nice storytelling. Is your dust extraction powered by a garden pump? Looks like one with that handle.
Voided your warranty with additions the manufacturer should incorporate into their product with a per-machine licensing fee. You've saved Hammer significant design time and offered a them a premium upgrade for their future sales. This is an excellent design with fab work. Also your video content is well written, has quality audio, well edited and presented. Could not have been better. Thank you from Colorado.
Geil Marius, eigentlich wollte ich noch Drag Chains für meine bald ankommende Sorotec Compact Line selber erstellen in Fusion aber deine sind genau das was ich im Kopf hatte! Und natürlich mega starkes Projekt!!
Perhaps submerging the brush in very hot water would have been helpful? Maybe helpful if you need to remake the brush in the future. Edit: Forgot to say, this is very impressive. 😁
You should really pass that along to Felder engineering team for their consideration. Given my experience with them, they will most likely won’t even notice though ;)
Have you posted the CAD for this project anywhere? I feel like (for those who could afford it!) a bunch of people would love to replicate/iterate this project.
This is fantastic! You capture the inherent contradictions of the "world of dust-shoes" so well - they are such a challenge. I actually think there is a PhD thesis in effective dust shoe design. We loved watching your solution in the office - looks so cool. Wonderful idea to integrate it as a 4th axis - well hell, why not... ;-)
Excellent build, congrats. This long video where you showed details and issues you hit is gold. May I ask how you "automated" the Z height for the brush?
"Easy" is an entirely relative term. This project may have been easy compared to something that is designed for mass production and sale, but it's not easy when compared to something like those new CNC table clamps you designed. To me this was a horribly complex project with ingenious solutions, well thought-out goals, and excellent quality of execution. I enjoyed watching even though I don't even own a CNC machine.
Good day I have a question and you showed the model in the cad at minute 7:28, you also showed the part of the milling head with the milling machine. Do you have this from the internet or did you do it yourself. Maybe you can sell it as a plan then I don't have to measure everything myself.
Very nice work. I went a similar but different route on the vertical adjustment side of things. ("Sweet Dreams CNC") RC model type servo, switch and springs. The lightweight springs and gravity hold the shoe in the down position on the work piece regardless of the depth of cut. For tool changes, the RC hobby servo via a lever activated by a switch moves the shoe up out of the way to let you change tools. Your solution is nicely "over engineered". (A high form of compliment! :-)
Thanks. That's a much simpler solution. Sounds also similar to what StepCraft has done. If I'd do it again, I'd probably also go with this simpler approach
Your little stop motion animations are always a nice touch that is done really well. And also you are an incredible engineer with your practicality and serviceability in mind.
Well Impressed! Over & above the call of duty! I'm glad that you spoiled yourself! You can now look forward to using this CNC machine with pleasure & enjoy it every time! Well Done!
Such a Fantastic Awesome design, be proud mate very proud, it's not easy designing, proofing and completing to final product. I thoroughly enjoyed your work. You had me in the first 20 seconds of the video.
In this episode, Marius singlehandedly while thoroughly shows "en passant" what the world is talking about when "german overengineering" comes up in any conversation whatsoever worldwide ..... For me as a German and an engineer, that basically is the essence of my professional core: You tweak it when it does not *_exactly_* what You intend it to do in the beginning/after purchase; You tweak it more to make sure it does *_everything_* You might need it doing whenever, where ever, in whatever circumstances You can imagine, and then You tweak it still a little more to make sure it does all that plus two more things Your neighbour/spouse/mechanic/kids contributed ........ I am loving it. Thanks for being a real true German (capital G) engineer, Marius, and thanks for sharing!
great work. i personally more like dust shoe style like the carbide 3D one . its clear and easy to put and release. your dust shoe base so wide. unless u have vaccum table. some cutting area will be reduce
@@JorgTheElder depend on the clamp setup and cutting profile. yes it will. especialy if u want to cut as big your table can handle. thats why using vaccum table will is a better solution if u have wide base dust shoe.
Unbelievable amount of work and thought that went into the design. I could not believe that you even thought to make a recess for the hose wire, that is just brilliant in it's simplicity. The brain of an engineer for sure.
Really great work, and a great video, thanks for posting. Your 3d prints look absolutely flawless. I'm curious what machine you're printing these on and in what material?
pls make a vid on how and where you learned to speak such perfect English? your English is better than most English people I meet in London, and I'm speaking as an Englishman. a true joy to listen to your technical explanations, and even subtle inflections, hats off marius, ty for all your diligence and care. ty
Very nice! A way to improve the dust collection over gaps could be to have another longer layer of softer bristles or cloth around the existing bristles. The idea being this new layer makes no force on the z-axis when compressed and falls into the gaps made by cuts/the end of the table. It could be attached using velcro for easy replacement.
You said it, G Bruce! Dare I mention Cosmas Bauer too? (I do not mean it in a way, like trying to find a young "prize - fighter". Just hoping that people like these can have an enriching experience together. And if enough elements align, we may all have more Joy. 😀
I love your videos!! I found the channel like a week ago and its been up there with my most watched since then. So satisfying, mesmerizing, inspiring, well edited, well thought out, high quality, honest and funny. Thank you for your content please don't stop!
Absolutely brilliant. One of the best YT videos I have seen in a long time about the topic of improving hobby CNC machines. Excellent engineering and great execution. Very honest conclusion. Top notch! Channel subscribed
Next time you need to remove a glued plate or object like that black cover plate try using heavy duty fishing line and pull with a sawing action between the two surfaces, like people do when removing car emblems that are glued on.
@@MariusHornberger Also heating the surface with a heat gun works wonders. Doesn't need much, 100°C maybe at most, if the base material can handle it (no problem for sheet metal like in this case obviously). Of course it doesn't work for all kind of glues (if it's a glue that somehow cures for example), but it really helps with sticky tape kind of adhesives (stickers, labels, double sided tape aso).
I do industrial maintenance and worked a plastics manufacturer for several years. We had a bunch of 4 spindle routers and even they didn't have smart vacuum like this. Just "short" or "tall" settings and they got trashed ALL THE TIME. Your setup is very smart and you could probably license it to router companies like Northwoods, Komo, etc.
Ooh, stop-motion animation 😜👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼!!! Inspired by Frank Howarth 😀? This was a super project/ modification!! If I owned something this expensive I doubt I would have had the guts to make such major modifications (never mind my lack of capability 😆😆). Bravo! Hope this CNC machine & all the modifications you make to it continue to work trouble-free for year to come.
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Excellent work and also the points at the end (40 minutes flew by) where you mention the practicality of the improvement with regard to cost. So many will see something like this and say the manufacturer should have it built in, but then probably wouldn't be willing to pay the extra cost for the upgrade even if it was done in the most cost effective way.
Thanks John!
John - the sad thing is that the manufacturer will probably steal it and integrate it into the design - without doing the right thing and purchasing the design from Marius. I remember Craftsman stealing the Bionic Wrench, or Black and Decker stealing the Workmate Workbench literally 10 minutes after the inventor pitched the idea to them (I happen to know the inventor.) It's total BS.
@@TheSpud1129 No, the truly sad thing is that you and so many other people think that way. Manufacturers don't need to "steal" ideas like this, despite the two examples (out of billions) you hold up to prove the rule.
@@JohnHeisz well some Manufactures certainly are not above idea theft, it is kind of the spirit of engineering. Taking ideas you see from something and using them in a different way that suits the requirements of a given project. Maybe its like music, everything has already been written or invented we just mix it up and call it new. Either way this video as you said flew by. I would think this would lead to more job offers then people who want to steal his ideas.
@@JohnHeisz John - not saying that they all do steal ideas, but - the sad thing is that some do. I'd hate to be the Inventor of the Bionic Wrench, go to a sales pitch meeting (totally legit) with Craftsman to pitch the idea, be told that it isn't practical - and then have them reproduce it INSTANTLY after I left. I'd like to imagine that he's doing ok for himself - but to have unlimited funds and the speed to mass-produce very quickly - with zero repercussions or fear of getting sued - would be a major kick in the balls.
I've been in the industry now for 27 going on 28 years, and there was a time in my life where I was directed to "modify" someones idea that was pitched to my employer. Naturally, I refused...and they gave the project to someone else to complete. It happens a lot more than you could imagine.
Being an engineer, designer, woodworker, hobbyist, I do take pride in engineering and designing components and ideas from scratch, and I take great pride in the fact that I can appreciate you and so many others on YT for your original and practical content. I've purchased quite a few plans from you (you along with Izzy, Marius, Frank and Matthias are my top 5.) Thanks for commenting and having dialogue. That's what makes it a better community and space to engage.
Level of precision and complexity of this project: G E R M A N
Russians would probably just tape a leafblower to the side. :)
@@Marcuslobenstein a diesel leafblower
Rofl
@@Marcuslobenstein lmao
@@Marcuslobenstein Americans would by the DEWALt Turbo Dustsucker 5564D4 with integrated Bluetooth App
Awesome design. I really like the highly integrated motor mount. You should find a friend with a plasma cutter or water jet so you can avoid the lathe shenanigans to make that metal ring (though I probably would have done the same thing as you ;)
Thanks man! A plasma cutter would've definitely saved a couple hours. Time to convert my old CNC into one
@@MariusHornberger I can't wait to see the design. You are so talented...
especially in the CAD department.
Felder should purchase the rights to your boot and adapt it to their 2.2kw spindle version.
I was wondering, why you didn't use the CNC for the ring. Should be capable of getting through the thin metal
@@nicholaslaines2702 how so? Serious question
@@MariusHornberger Problem: The Dust-Shoe is a bad bad boy and useless.
Solution: Introduce more complexity, more tech and moving parts around this part!!! SCOTTY, I need this in 12 hours. Scotty: Captain, I will do it in 6! :))
Sorry for that joke(?) and the following, because that is a really great project and the implementation ist a Bobby Dazzler, @Marius!;)
Another engineering practice (better eng-fu), most people don't know or think about is: Something doesn't work? Let's redesign it completely, or even better: Let's get RID OF IT! Researching about airflow or talking to an expert about this problem would have lead to another solution. A suction nozzle that optimally directs the airflow around the work area without any fold or mechanical overhang. Especially with the performance offered by a full-fledged industrial dust collector, this would have been a real alternative.
"Luftstromhygiene" ist ja kein Hexenwerk ... also wenn man z.B. den französischen Ingenieuren von Mobylette glaubt, die uns schon seit grauer Vorzeit absolut unverständliche Ansaugstutzenformen für ihre Mofas um die Ohren hauen:)
I'm just a spoilsport... sorry for that, Marius. Forgive me!:)
Just because of that ending, I would have subscribed. But I can't. I already am.
Same here 😁
I was a design cost engineer, a designer’s worst nightmare, a devil’s advocate. Every engineer will design a ‘Rolls Royce’, but to make a product saleable the costs must be kept down. That said you are a magnificent engineer and FELDER should be paying you a consultant’s retainer fee. Best regards.
The design cost argument is winnable here because it is an objectively better product, which is absolutely in line with e.g. Felder and Festool business models. Factor in the liability angle where any dust is increasingly seen as a health problem plus potential for containment of milling bits breaking off and you have a good case in the real world, beyond the enclave of cost accounting.
There will need to be rules for not using it on heads with any additional pitch or roll axis, but that will need a multi-axis dust shoe too.
Ron - being an engineer and designer for the last 28 years, I don't view you as "our worst nightmare" You're the voice of reason that keeps us on the straight and narrow. I'd like to think of our jobs as two fingers in a glove, without eachother, there would be massive problems.
I much prefer that he (as well as the other people like him youtube producing great stuff) isn't on the payroll of any company related to the content of his videos, though obviously not because I don't wish Marius all the success in the world.
I mean, I don't think he's directly on their payroll, but they do give him tools from time to time. I think this CNC is one of them.
I don't know whether You agree, but I as an engineer out in the field for three decades plus change (mostly boat building and tunnel industry machinery), I wish every cost controller and original designer had to do repair work out in the field on rainy/snowy December days shortly before sunset with "cost controlled" tooling on "cost controlled" machinery and a buncha cost controllers the customer chased on his heels *_before_* they were allowed to design even a single screwed connection ......
This was great! Well explained and extremely well thought out!
Thanks man!
Wow! 'The drag chain was not big enough so I printed my own - and improved the design...' ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! How did you develop such an amazing brain for things like this? I personally can think outside the box - but you think outside the suburb! Absolutely amazing. Inspiring me to add another dimension to my projects. An honour to watch your brain at work Marius. Heck, you even have legends like John Heisz commenting and watching.
This is just magnificent engineering, I hope the company that makes this CNC watches this
I love how Rube Goldberg you went with making that metal ring. I was expecting you to just tape it down to a board (or screw it down through the middle and leave a couple of tabs) and CNC it.
Great work
Incredible! One of the most impressive things I've ever seen! You should be building starships or time machines or something. Dang!
I agree. That was an easy engineering project. You should have seen me when i was glueing up my vegetable peeler's handle.
58 seconds in and this is already awesome!
You stole my line...ha!
Matthias Wandel introduced me to your channel and with videos like this I can see why he's such a fan. Amazing engineering, such a pleasure to see it come together. I am enjoying the long format but I wonder if you might get more attention with things like this in 3 part series. Anyway, can't wait to see what you come up with next!
the breaks between the episodes would have killed me - if this was long, I didn't notice
As an engineer who has long been out of school, I know projects like this are important for the journey, not the destination. Well done!
I am a worm…
If I was the manufacturer I would buy your project simplify the manufacturing process and install process and had it built in China and sell it as an extra for the machine. Cuz you've done all the hard thinking 😂
Build it in China.!!!! 😱
Utterly brilliant. I totally get the part about the big part of it being the process not just the result. :)
Over engineering at its finest. Well done!
german after all.
I don't know, everything I see here has a valuable purpose. I think he just engineered out all the failure points.
@@Ravenousjoe agreed. Bucky Fuller would say that the next iteration would employ less material and utilize Principles to a greater degree, in a process he referred to as ephemeralization. But as a First Pass, this thing is awesome.
Wirklich beeindruckend! Genau wegen solchen Projekten gibt es keinen RUclipsr, auf dessen Videos ich mich so sehr freue!
Auf jeden Fall. Immer wieder eine große Freude
seems like a lot of work for a little CNC. A good experience but time for a 4x 8 :) or 5x10
Absolutely. I just need the building that fits around that bigger machine
@@MariusHornberger I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was over the top thought and engineering. Great job!
@@MariusHornberger Next video: I 3D printed a new basement shop.
This video conclusively proves I'm dumb, lol
Nice long detailed video. I had a lot of fun watching it. Let's see if the people from Hammer will contact you soon, similar to the improvements to your sliding table saw.
Marius is a really created person. I think Hammer (Felder-group) should be aware of this modification, and have it to they CNC machine.
Especially the really nice cable-thing he built. Love the clips, much nicer and smoother solution than the old solution.
This is great. And you're right, moving the dust shoe with the Z axis is super dumb. Even just a manually adjustable fixed shoe would be an improvement - 99% of the time CNC routers are cutting sheet goods of constant thickness.
You are amazing. I'm glad to support you on Patreon so you can continue to innovate. Keep up the great work.
The smooth curves of your printed parts are absolutely beautiful. Your mechanical design is truly impressive!
Thanks! I just hate sharp edges on 3D prints and the fillet tool is so simple to use
I have been waiting for this video Marius. An arriving home from work on a friday to see it in the feed, made my weekend. 40 minutes of German precision engineering really flew by waaaay to fast. Great concept, and execution. A couple of Q´s: When you make the code for the cut, and a job has different tiers, say a pocket like the one for your tool tray boxes. Do you account for deeper brush position when doing a second tool operation "down" in the pocket? Or do you set the brush to material thicken (plus whatever minimal compression of the bristels you want)? and also do you edit in the 4th axis position manually, or automatically via the post processor? Great job as always Sir👍😀👍😀
Thanks man!
Rigth now (and probably in the future) the brush stays at the same height during a job with multiple operations. And I also set the height manually when I make programs with Fusion360 or Aspire.
But I also wrote two custom programs that run as subroutines in the control software. One is for flattening rectangulare shapes and the other for round shapes, rings and holes. Both are fully parametric and I can just type my dimensions, cutting data and hit start. And there the brush also moves down when a flattening pass is done. Since I wrote the whole program, that was easy to implement.
When is your next project coming? The homemade tablesaw and boxjoint jig were awesome!
@@MariusHornberger Sounds like you have it all covered, that makes sense :) Thanks for the kind feedback Sir. Traction on my channel is really slow atm. I guess I have myself to blame for not being consistent with posting, but even if I try to ignore it, it kinda impacts the drive to make more projects. I have a lot of new ideas on the block with some really cool projects, but personal stuff also seem to eat up alot of time. Thanks for watching Btw 👍
Omg, i need this as I don't have shoe dust for my CNC. i love yours
Hätte es nicht auch eine Feder getan? Wouldn't a spring have done the same height adjustment trick? But then: there must be a more complicated way to do it. Like it none the less!
No, how would that work?
@@MariusHornberger chamferrd inside brushes, hose attached fix to z and springs around columns to adjust/reduce downforces to limit vertical load to a minimum (10g?).
This doesn‘t solve it vor everything - but 80% of rather simplistic reliev carving on flat stock.
I totally understand your project and fany it very much - but I‘d find it particulary interesting to find a simplistic solution to 80 % of the problem. Withiut having to strughle with a 4th dimension.
For a guy who started out on RUclips with great fit and finish to his projects and videos, you keep getting better and better. I love how you are using so many skills you have learned over time in this build, from the 3d printed parts (exceptional print results btw, mine look like shaggy dogs in comparison) to the cnc routed parts, and everything else you put into it.
wonder if they'll invite you along to help make their dust shoe better like they did with the crosscut fence stop widget on your table saw!
you mean again ;)
I need something like this for my CNC as well. Wait, I don‘t have a CNC ... anyway, excellent job and very nice storytelling. Is your dust extraction powered by a garden pump? Looks like one with that handle.
Thanks! Yes, that used to be a garden pump a long time ago
Voided your warranty with additions the manufacturer should incorporate into their product with a per-machine licensing fee. You've saved Hammer significant design time and offered a them a premium upgrade for their future sales. This is an excellent design with fab work. Also your video content is well written, has quality audio, well edited and presented. Could not have been better. Thank you from Colorado.
Geil Marius, eigentlich wollte ich noch Drag Chains für meine bald ankommende Sorotec Compact Line selber erstellen in Fusion aber deine sind genau das was ich im Kopf hatte! Und natürlich mega starkes Projekt!!
Freut mich. Kannst mir ja Rückmeldung geben, wenn du die Teile gedruckt hast ob sie auch gut funktionieren
Perhaps submerging the brush in very hot water would have been helpful? Maybe helpful if you need to remake the brush in the future.
Edit: Forgot to say, this is very impressive. 😁
You should really pass that along to Felder engineering team for their consideration. Given my experience with them, they will most likely won’t even notice though ;)
They know this project for a long time. I'm in close contact with them
Have you posted the CAD for this project anywhere? I feel like (for those who could afford it!) a bunch of people would love to replicate/iterate this project.
Geiler Scheiss! Respekt!
What an awesome overengineering masterpiece. Keep on rocking!!
OMFG Marius! That"s no longer, just a piece of machinery, but a true WORK OF ART!
This is amazing Marius!!! Great job!!!
This is fantastic! You capture the inherent contradictions of the "world of dust-shoes" so well - they are such a challenge. I actually think there is a PhD thesis in effective dust shoe design. We loved watching your solution in the office - looks so cool. Wonderful idea to integrate it as a 4th axis - well hell, why not... ;-)
Why not. That was exactly my thinking. Thanks!
Excellent build, congrats. This long video where you showed details and issues you hit is gold.
May I ask how you "automated" the Z height for the brush?
this is looking to flawlessly integrated in the machine that it looks like an addition of the manufacturer.
haha left me laughing. brilliant process. enjoyed the whole vid. thanks for sharing, as always.
"Easy" is an entirely relative term. This project may have been easy compared to something that is designed for mass production and sale, but it's not easy when compared to something like those new CNC table clamps you designed.
To me this was a horribly complex project with ingenious solutions, well thought-out goals, and excellent quality of execution. I enjoyed watching even though I don't even own a CNC machine.
Klasse! Very smart and well done
Hare you a ciborg or something like that? Greetings from México
Excellent project - you had fun making it!
(And I enjoyed watching the video.)
You are a very clever lad, you make me feel inadequate ha ha. Keep up the good work.
Compressed air nozzle: why not attach it to the dust shoe instead, so that it's always at the right height?
German overkill, great vid
Da gibts am Montag bestimmt ne Krisensitzung bei Felder in der besprochen wird warum diese features nicht von Haus aus mit eingebaut werden 😄
just hit me... his soldering iron was not plugged in 24:34
New employee of the Felder development center? :-D
That would be a massive improvement for Felder ;)
Cool!
Thanks for the video.
It helped me in my Wintergatan deprivation.
Martin also posted his video
I am no engineer but I learned so much useful information from this project, and the length was perfect, without a wasted word. Bravo!
Unglaublich toller Umbau. Möchte nicht wissen wie viel Zeit du da investiert hast. Danke für das Video
Good day
I have a question and you showed the model in the cad at minute 7:28, you also showed the part of the milling head with the milling machine. Do you have this from the internet or did you do it yourself. Maybe you can sell it as a plan then I don't have to measure everything myself.
I drew that myself after taking meassurements
Looks stock and OEM...No better praise.
Very nice work. I went a similar but different route on the vertical adjustment side of things. ("Sweet Dreams CNC") RC model type servo, switch and springs. The lightweight springs and gravity hold the shoe in the down position on the work piece regardless of the depth of cut. For tool changes, the RC hobby servo via a lever activated by a switch moves the shoe up out of the way to let you change tools. Your solution is nicely "over engineered". (A high form of compliment! :-)
Thanks. That's a much simpler solution. Sounds also similar to what StepCraft has done. If I'd do it again, I'd probably also go with this simpler approach
Absolutely AMAZING Design!
Pure genius.
Your little stop motion animations are always a nice touch that is done really well. And also you are an incredible engineer with your practicality and serviceability in mind.
Very well thought out and wonderfully over engineered dustpan and brush 😉Great work!
Well Impressed! Over & above the call of duty! I'm glad that you spoiled yourself! You can now look forward to using this CNC machine with pleasure & enjoy it every time! Well Done!
Calling it now. You’re the next Elon Musk.
Such a Fantastic Awesome design, be proud mate very proud, it's not easy designing, proofing and completing to final product. I thoroughly enjoyed your work. You had me in the first 20 seconds of the video.
Classical overengeneering😃 I love it!
Respekt für die Präzision der Teile😊
Hi Marius very nice and a great job.
In this episode, Marius singlehandedly while thoroughly shows "en passant" what the world is talking about when "german overengineering" comes up in any conversation whatsoever worldwide .....
For me as a German and an engineer, that basically is the essence of my professional core: You tweak it when it does not *_exactly_* what You intend it to do in the beginning/after purchase; You tweak it more to make sure it does *_everything_* You might need it doing whenever, where ever, in whatever circumstances You can imagine, and then You tweak it still a little more to make sure it does all that plus two more things Your neighbour/spouse/mechanic/kids contributed ........
I am loving it.
Thanks for being a real true German (capital G) engineer, Marius, and thanks for sharing!
Congrats. You are the first RUclipsr to ever mount a limit switch correctly! :-)
I am blown away Marius! Been watching your videos for a long time and every video I'm impressed with the craftsmanship!
genius ...you are really an impressive engineer.
great work. i personally more like dust shoe style like the carbide 3D one . its clear and easy to put and release. your dust shoe base so wide. unless u have vaccum table. some cutting area will be reduce
@@JorgTheElder depend on the clamp setup and cutting profile. yes it will. especialy if u want to cut as big your table can handle. thats why using vaccum table will is a better solution if u have wide base dust shoe.
Unbelievable amount of work and thought that went into the design. I could not believe that you even thought to make a recess for the hose wire, that is just brilliant in it's simplicity. The brain of an engineer for sure.
Really great work, and a great video, thanks for posting.
Your 3d prints look absolutely flawless. I'm curious what machine you're printing these on and in what material?
Thanks! It's a prusa mk3 and filament from extrudr (PLA NX2)
@ 26:46 that hose was like ''you aint putting any woodscrews near me!! baang '' ... Great job and video
Класний прибор! І я собі такий хочу👍👍👍👍☺
awesome job your a very talented young man the future is all yours and what you'd want to make of it well done
Awesome. Very inspiring
You tried to cover all the issues with this design. Great job sir. I wish I had your intelligence. You work this out to perfection.
What a great production. Funny, simple, precise. A great job. Like it a lot!
pls make a vid on how and where you learned to speak such perfect English? your English is better than most English people I meet in London, and I'm speaking as an Englishman. a true joy to listen to your technical explanations, and even subtle inflections, hats off marius, ty for all your diligence and care. ty
Thanks! It all just came from practice through my videos and watching lots of english content. Other than that I never really speak English
@@MariusHornberger ty from a 73 Yr old londoner
Wow Marius, you are so impressive ! Nice work, love your video ! Thanks a lot !
Very nice! A way to improve the dust collection over gaps could be to have another longer layer of softer bristles or cloth around the existing bristles. The idea being this new layer makes no force on the z-axis when compressed and falls into the gaps made by cuts/the end of the table. It could be attached using velcro for easy replacement.
I would love to see a collaboration between Marius and Jeremy Schmidt. The possibilities would be limitless.
I can ask him. Maybe we find a project
You said it, G Bruce! Dare I mention Cosmas Bauer too?
(I do not mean it in a way, like trying to find a young "prize - fighter". Just hoping that people like these can have an enriching experience together. And if enough elements align, we may all have more Joy. 😀
I love your videos!! I found the channel like a week ago and its been up there with my most watched since then. So satisfying, mesmerizing, inspiring, well edited, well thought out, high quality, honest and funny. Thank you for your content please don't stop!
Absolutely brilliant. One of the best YT videos I have seen in a long time about the topic of improving hobby CNC machines. Excellent engineering and great execution.
Very honest conclusion. Top notch! Channel subscribed
If the company doesn’t utilize all your work they are crazy. Amazing work. Hopefully you’ll be rewarded for your efforts in some way. 👍🏼
Next time you need to remove a glued plate or object like that black cover plate try using heavy duty fishing line and pull with a sawing action between the two surfaces, like people do when removing car emblems that are glued on.
I'll give it a try, thanks
@@MariusHornberger
Also heating the surface with a heat gun works wonders. Doesn't need much, 100°C maybe at most, if the base material can handle it (no problem for sheet metal like in this case obviously). Of course it doesn't work for all kind of glues (if it's a glue that somehow cures for example), but it really helps with sticky tape kind of adhesives (stickers, labels, double sided tape aso).
That is a beautiful solution. I love it. Well done!
I do industrial maintenance and worked a plastics manufacturer for several years. We had a bunch of 4 spindle routers and even they didn't have smart vacuum like this. Just "short" or "tall" settings and they got trashed ALL THE TIME.
Your setup is very smart and you could probably license it to router companies like Northwoods, Komo, etc.
Ooh, stop-motion animation 😜👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼!!! Inspired by Frank Howarth 😀? This was a super project/ modification!! If I owned something this expensive I doubt I would have had the guts to make such major modifications (never mind my lack of capability 😆😆). Bravo! Hope this CNC machine & all the modifications you make to it continue to work trouble-free for year to come.
Congratulations Marius. Very good job.
Your talent, ingenuity, humour, etc... are a breathe of fresh air! And not the compressed stuff lol Superb build & video. Absolutely superb!
Interesting. I'm pretty sure you replaced the smashed brush forces with static weight from all the add-ons. Cool stuff though!
Marius, this is realy sick, im doing that to my next CNC :D
You've done an amazing job, but the process for producing the metal ting for the hose connection was ridiculously over-engineered! 😆