You sold me on the bugera, I've only played solid state amps for over 10 years and I am about to go in and try the tube amps out for myself for the first time since I'm primarily a drummer, but you did a good example of the two. Straight to the point and no random riffs between differences. Super helpful!!
I sell marshall code 25 last week and now i need find best amp sound tube amp but with best money of course.......i intend to this amp ,is this best amp ? And how often u change the tube ?
@@ekojulianto8034 I've owned one of the original blue light ones for over 10 years. I play it all the time and have never changed the tubes. Still sounds great. I do use an overdrive and or a distortion pedal in front if I want a heavy tone. The V5 by itself has a great clean tone, but you'll need a dirt box of your choice if you want heavy stuff. I love it.
@@cloudrun654 thanks man for u replying.....but iam still confused iam after bugera v5 with cheap price or i take Marshall DSL 1C head with joyo batancab 8inch speaker cabinet with celestion eight 15 .......
@@ekojulianto8034 Hello, Not sure about the DSL or the Joyo bantancab. All I can really tell you is that I've lots of amps over 25 years of playing. I really like the V5 for home playing and in a small group with my friends. I too have some joyo pedals. I like their overdrive and US Dream. I also have a delay pedal from music man, but I bought that stuff all over a number of years.
@@cloudrun654 thanks so much for u advice ,yes joyo have a good product ,the pedals is good,from price and the sound i have a few pedals from joyo like delay and us dreams to.....btw is bugera V5 is loud enough if use in home or small venue ? Iam ussually use 30 watts amp solid state that pretty loud enough for me,is samw with buggera with 5 watt power tube amp ?
Delay pedal should go in the effects loop, which Bugera V5 doesn't have I believe. We put delays on the final distorted signal, putting a distortion on delay sounds as bad as I expected.
Well done Shane ! A whole demo on bridge p/up WOW. Marshall all the way, I had a Bugera slightly underwhelmed after a period of time, it doesn't like low power setting either fries the valve. Cheers
@@mikesalt8248 All amps fry valves on the lower attenuated settings. It's because on the lower settings the amp is basically wide open all the time. You even play a Marshall 100 watt stack wide open all the time you start cooking valves. Hell the basic fact of life is the genuine overdriven tones that guitarists love are hard on amps tubes. Another basic fact is no matter what the amp brand is if you want genuine hard overdrive from tubes then you have to be willing pay the price of occasionally frying a tube. Personally I just think I'm at the point of just buying a well designed solid state amp with good playing dynamics like the Roland Blues Cube and just be done with ALL tube maintenance hassle.
Just so you know. All the Marshall videos coming up were all shot on the same day which is why it looks like I never get changed 😆. Please let me know which one you think sounds better? I know which one I like more. You can also vote in the cards too. If you enjoy the video please give it the thumbs up. ☺️🙏 If you're keen on the Bugera check the links in the description.
I have a feeling the origin will take some more time dialing in to get a desired tone and probably more noticeable dialing in to get a good feel on how it reacts to your fingers
thats funny. could see the smile on your face every time you plugged into the bugera. dont know if yours is stock, but try putting an eminence 820h and tube swap to ehx tubes. use a gold pin for the 12ax7. its already good... but with those upgrades, crazy good.
I am really torn on the V5 or the V22 everytime I say im going with the V5 I hear a video where it sounds dinky and cant handle volume maybe its humbuckers it struggles with, is there enough headroom if you are just playing in the bedroom ? "help" lol
The Bugera is a great modding platform. I stabilized the enclosure, swapped the speaker (Celestion 8-15 instead of the Turbosound) and added a treble bleed to the volume pot. Huge difference but too crunchy for me (with the stock tubes). Changing the 12AX7 against a 12AU7 gave me the clean headroom I wanted but still allows me to "go dirty". The Celestion speaker provides more clarity and punch than the stock Turbosound speaker but is still not top. My next attempt is to swap the 8-15 against an alnico speaker. But for the form factor and price the Bugera V5 is really great.
I swapped the original Bugera 12AX7A for a NOS Sylvania grey plate 5751 and the EL84 for a NOS BEL (Mullard) 6BQ5 and the sound fattened up and the over brightness vanished. The Turbosound has improved with some hours so I'll probably leave it. Never thought of going down as low as an 12AU7 . I could try that later as I have a bunch of those from organ pulls.
@@jackbell4540 I have a NOS Mullard au7 in mine. got it from upscale audio. I get some beautiful clean chord melody sounds with this. I have a NOS power tube in it as well,
I agree, I can nay hear the valves with all those silly effects. Just the amp, God damn it! No cables, mics, guitars or people. Pure & unadulterated amp in a woods with no one to hear it.
The Marshall sounded kinda thin, even with the od and delay. The Bugera..that cheap, oft maligned little Bugera...sounded absolutely FEROCIOUS! Bugera for the WIN!!! Oh, and I'm totally NOT biased here, even though I own a Bugera Vintage22 combo and it's been my go to gigging rig for the last five years lol!
I'm in agreement with Celtic Fury. The Bugera sounds more aggressive, has louder mids, and just sounds bigger and fuller. I am also totally not biased, with my main rig being a Bugera 6260 (5150 clone) 2x12 combo. You just can't beat them for the money.
Bugera was thicker but also muddy sounding. Sometimes a thicker sound like the Bugera is more pleasing, but then the notes mush together. The Marshall origin has more note definition and sometimes that is a better sound
Yep...I swapped out the stock tubes in my V5 for Tung Sol tubes and it changed the amp completely...way more brighter when you need it, run it through a Bugera 1×12 cab and it's great
Had the Bugera v5 and found it a bit dark and buzzy ..... Added a 3-way bright switch and 3-way negative feedback switch and it really made it into quite a versatile amp :)
I have A Bugera V55 and Fender Blues Deluxe reissue 40W. Ironically, the Fender is much loader at 40W than my V55. I like the V55 cause it has a switch to cut it down to 30W. It's a great amp for the price and I haven't an issue with it in 6 years. I tend to find Bugera to be more on the Fender side of tone than Marshall. Both my amps are huge and heavy to move around the house. I have a Cube 60 I use as a practice amp and it does almost a good job at getting a tube tone. But it's still hollow in sound and unlike a tube. The Clean channel is great. Since I'm more a Fender amp person and looking for something small for living room just plugin and play practice, this V5 seems to hit the nail on the head. Your review is very helpful in my decision process.
The only Brand Loyalty that I have are to Cole Clark Guitars, Telecasters & Australian made Pedals {Dazzatronyx & Bondi Effects particularly}, but for a nice Blues Sound, the Bugera nails it. I know where part of my Tax Return is going this year. Well done mate, & don't stop "In The Blues", it's Quality that us Muso's really Appreciate.
Hi!! Nice review man! I own a V5 and I’m happy with it but I can’t make it sound similar like you do... My guitar is a 2008 fender strat mexico improved with two Dimarzio cruiser pick ups and one Dimarzio tone zone s, I replaced 500k condensers instead the original ones and I play with a drive and boost pedal... As a said, I like the sound I have but yours is far better than mine, what could be the reason for I can't sound as nice as you? Your sound is so powerfull and full of definition.. Im in love with it haha did you replaced valves? wich ones? or you’ve made some modification on the amp? could be my guitar is not good enough to sound like this? I have to say that i play at home so I can't use the amp with volume's knob higher than 2, i live with my parents and if I play louder than this they'd complain... could it be the reason that makes the amp seems to sound worse than yours? I have to say that i’m looking for the sound you get with telecaster, the high frequences are explosive and low frequences sounds with much definition, two most important things i need on my sound... The sound you get with the LP is very impressive too on high frequences but I don’t like how low frequences sounds, there’s much less definition in comparison with low frequencies you get with telecaster thanks man!! (And sorry for my english, I’m a beginner 😅 hope you understand my questions..)
I have had the V5 for a Bunch of years now and it was always a bit dark since I use mostly guitars with Humbuckers. I changed out the Tubes to better ones and replaced the speaker with an Eminence 8 inch Patriot and it now sounds fantastic to my ears even at low volume levels. Love it.
Maybe try using a lower wattage, ie, the .1w or the 1w setting and crank that volume. May help you get a bit closer to his sound. Can't imagine the lowest setting upsetting the parents.
My origin 5 needed 12 hour continuous break in, then it came alive. The amp sounded a bit quieter after break in so needed crank more, which also improved tone. Not really a strummers amp, great for thick tones and resonance and pedals. Well mine does. Sounded like cardboard to start with.
Thanks Shane for all your informative and fun videos. If I want to know about a new (sometimes obscure) pedal amp etc. I look here. Glad I found your channel.
I have a Bugera V22 Combo and a Head. I really like these amps. I play in a cover band that does 60’s to early 80’s and this amp dies the job. Put some Mullard reissues and it warmed up that amp big time pre and power section. Have an Au7 in V2 position. took away the fizzy overdrive and gave it a better range of use. Great demo thanks
Marshall sure has gone to hell over the last several decades. An old solid state Lead 12 from the 80s sounds better than that thing, it's pathetic. Bugera's Infinium line is pretty amazing for the price, I have the Bugera 1960 head, and that thing is ridiculous. Jet City also makes some incredible sounding amps for the price. Seems like if you want to get a decent brand new amp from Marshall nowadays, you better be prepared to spend thousands of dollars on their British made amps. You deserve tons of credit for making an honest review, instead of using production techniques to make the amp sound better than it really does like so many other RUclipsr do,.... thanks.
I would say the Bugara wins. The Marshall sounds ok, but still was missing that " something ". I will have to try the Marshall out the next time I go to a music store so I can hear it live. Great video as always, Cheers!
I was afraid of the Bugera sounding a bit toy like, but damn, it has some tasty tones and a very affordable price. Think I might have to check one out.
Hard to know whether it's because of the small speaker and cabinet, but i'm not loving what i've been hearing from the Origin. I was 'psyched' at NAMM to see it, but i'm very glad i didn't wait for it, and instead got the Katana 100w head.
Bugera shat on the Marshall. I’ve had a few Marshall combos in the last few years. A few cabs too. They all were less than impressive. I would’ve never looked at Bugera if my buddy didn’t have one. Thing sounded killer. I now own 3 myself.
I preferred the Bugera, but that's just my personal preference, which is always right for me. :P Cool comparison! I know the price difference over here in the North Pole, but how do they differ in your area?
At one point the Marshall sounded spongy in a good way. Several years ago when the 5watters were a craze. I had a bunch of brands. The bugera 5 and the vibrochamp xd were my favorites. Kept the vibro cuz of the different voicing and effects, since I don't have a budget to spend on pedals I sold the rest. I still run the vibro through a bugera 212 cab, go figure! I'll go with the bug.
I've only just discovered Bugera amps, they seem like excellent value for money. I preferred the breakup on the Bugera. The Marshall sounded harsh and crackly in comparison.
Wow, shocked. I will be looking into the Bugeras. I should have known as I have a Peavy Windsor head that I love and only cost me 200.00 Thank You for this
I currently own a Marshall Origin 50w, and ordered the Bugera 5w as a portable rehearsal amp so I wouldn't have to lug my Marshall around more than I have to. This video definitely made me more excited for the Bugera to come in the mail!
Where the hack is a Fender Amp with a simple Power Reduction? A Blues Jr. with switchable 15/5/1 Watts a.a.e. I understand that Fender wants to stick to tradition - but that doesn't do me a favor as a musician.
Well, the Bugera rips. I haven't really liked any of the new generation of Marshal amps, the dsl or the origin series, all made in Vietnam or China right? Played a lot of them in stores before buying the Orange OR-15.
Thanks dude. The new DSL40CR is a killer amp. The thing is though you have to dial them in a particular way with the master volumes up all the way or it doesn't shine. You then can adjust the channel volumes as per normal. :-) . See if you can find my live clip using it and see what you think. I won't be buying any of the Origin amps myself, they aren't my sort of thing. They are all made in Vietnam yep and the Bugera is Chinese made.
Yeah I watched your clip earlier, sounds good live. I really tried to like them when I was testing them but they never really did it for me, not enough to buy one anyway. Perhaps it's because I wanted something very different from my Fender, which I sold by the way. It's all about what moves you at the time right? :)
I think it wouldn't be fair : the price and the quality are definitly not the same. You could buy almost 3 Bugerra for a BJ xD Unfortunatly, there's no Fender at the same price. The Bass Breaker is the cheapest fender amp and it costs 100 € (hi from france !^^) more than Buggera/Marshall. But it could be interesting though.
Ignore "ajjay". it's not about price point, it's about the circuit and speaker. The Bugera's a single-ended class A tube amp. One pre-amp tube, one power sections tube, going into an 8" speaker. The BJ is a push-pull, class A/B tube amp. Two pre-amp tubes and two power section tubes going into a 12" speaker. They DO sound similar though because of how they're voiced. Unlike a Epiphone Valve Junior head, which is grainy and shrill, the Bugera is voiced for warmth, like a BJ. I LOVE my Bugera, but seriously DISlike my Valve Junior, although it has it's uses. Both 5 watt tube amps that sound nothing alike. The Bugera will never compete with a BJ for sheer volume (5w vs 15w), or tone shaping due to it's minimal control set. That said, the single power amp tube in the Bugera gives you the even-order harmonics that sound 'sweet' and a bit more 'ragged' to our ears, while the BJ will give you odd-order harmonics that will come across as smoother. Both are absolutely good amps. But if you want a low price 15 watt amp much like the BJ, get a Monoprice 15 watter. It sounds VERY good, for $200, like a cross between a Blues Junior and an AC15. Real spring reverb, standby switch, and a four band EQ. FANTASTIC little amp for guitar OR harmonica, if you're a bluesman like myself. If I had to choose one 'desert island' amp, it would be that one. Flexible enough to do nearly everything but ultra-high-gain stuff.
I have a Marshall, DSL 100HR head with the Marshall slanted cab with 4x12 Celestions in the cab and I also have this Bugera V5 Infinium that Shane is playing in this video and everything he said about this Bugera is 100% accurate and true. I have had so many tube amps by Fender, Vox, Marshall, etc etc and I have also had solid state amps by, Katana, Orange, etc etc and this here Bugera amp can not only keep up with the best of them but it also beats many of them to the finish line. This little guy might be small and cute looking but trust me its a beast and it will bite you lol. If your contemplating on purchasing this amp dont think any longer and buy it, you will not be sorry. A few years ago this very amp was almost a $100 dollars cheaper and because of the redesigning to make it what it is today the prices kept sky rocketing on it and at about $280 - $300 dollars it is still a great deal for how this amp sounds. Other amps that dont sound this good cost double and way much more.
I have to get One 0,1 Watt for home. Do you think Bugera V5 or T5(+10" Cub) Is a better choise than Marshall DSL1C? DSL1 has better High gain for metal and a send return for ambient pedals.
I am an owner of the older series Bugera v5. I changed out my speaker to an Eminence patriot because the amp sounded a little dark. I understand the newer speakers sound better. Anyway, I am very impressed how the Bugera sounded here compared to the Marshall. The Marshall sounded good but not as good as the Bugera to my ears. The Bugera V5 is definitely a gem of an amp for a great price. Thanks for doing this video.
I’ve got the old version V55. Only swapped tubes, and re biased. Put in a eminence cannabis Rex speaker. It sounds great and I’ve never had a single issue with the amp even bought it used. Idk why so many claim they blow there’s up? I may try a brighter speaker though.
Ugh, the delay. Why even have it on? Doesn't help with an amp comparison. Either way though, thanks for the vid. It's appreciated. Interesting results.
I hear two different amps with different sounds and both sound good. Question of taste: I like the sound of the Bugera more. However, if you want your Bugera sounds more brilliant as the Marshall - change the speaker for a 100$.
@@endreszatmari2302 no, I have other amps, it was more like one-time wish ) Probably one day for experiments, as it is dirty cheap, on looks cool! Please write about your experience! As I understood, they are indeed dark with a stock speaker.
@@sweepphreak, RUclips demos have no depth and always sound terrible. Out of the box, Bugera's V% does Marshall tones better than Marshall Origin does Marshall tones.
I have been excited to hear the Origin series but the Bugera definitely sounds better in this video. Maybe the Origin 20 will sound better? I hope so. Good stuff, Shane.
Hello Shane, I want to buy an amp to pratice in the studio with my band and possibly to gig too, I know you like a ot the Peavey Bandit wich I can fin it here for arround 100 to 150 euros, but recently I have wached some videos about the Bugera V22 (I know is a tube amp but I don´t Know if that is something I need) for arround 200 euros, so mi question is... wich one would you choose? thanks in advence! your chenel is very informative for me.
I read somewherr about upgrading the speaker in my V5 ... put a Jensen in it and the difference is night and day ... sounds incredible. Still shocked at the sound and build quality of this amp especially for the price ...
Great comparison, but the Origin series maybe should be compared with the bugera V55 which has 6L6 tubes, and not with the V5 which has EL84 (the same of his bigger brother V22) So a most fair comparison should be: Marshall Origin series (50) vs Bugera V55 Marshall DSL series vs Bugera V5/22
Hi there, thanks for the comparison video. Honest and unbiased as per. I appreciate it’s not the model you are reviewing here but just wanted to mention my experience with Bugera kit. Hopefully you don’t object? I’d been umming and ahhing for ages over the Bugera V22 Infinium as I didn’t really believe that for such little cash it could be quite as good as claimed. I’ve used some (cheap as they come) Beringer pedals and been very satisfied with their performance. Although a little different, with that in mind I thought WTF just buy it. It would be a massive hassle, but I could always return it if it turned out to be a mistake anyway. Recently took the plunge, bought the V22 head along the 212TS cabinet. It’s going absolutely nowhere and it’s far exceeded my expectations. I’m astonished by the quality of the tone I’m getting and just wish bought it ages ago rather than fannying around. I’m very, very happy. Unless, unlike the majority of us, you have money to burn and are able to justify spending a good few thousand, I’d confidently advise (obviously dependant on an individuals requirements) this gear every time. I know it’s not a consideration here but it actually looks fantastic too. Thanks again for all your enjoyable videos. Cheers, Si.
Hearing both together kinda tells me I am not that keen on either. The Bugera kicks that Marshalls ass though! Great job comparing the two though Shane.... Did that yesterday... Watched the Marshall and then straight to the Bugera review you did. ;-)
Thank for this video mate! You´re right! the Marshall is more bright than Bugera; but the bugera have more distorsion. For the price, I prefer bugera...
I think the Marshall has better note definition while the Bugera has a fuller tone. But to be honest, I really don't care for either. They both sound "farty" due to their 8" speakers. I hope you do a review of the Origin 50C, which has a 12“ speaker. I believe that Marshall made a mistake by not putting 12" speakers in the 3 different models of the Origin combos. Love your channel, BTW!
I tried the Bugera V5 once on the clean settings with my strat and it sounded pretty warm on the neck pickup. People say that amp doesn't take overdrive pedals too well... If you own one, please let me know what are your thoughts about it?
BUGERA WINS !!! This is why I no longer own Marshall and I own a Bugera V55 Infinium !! Hard to believe that Behringer is Bugera's parent company. I love my V55 ....I can get any tone I want and it's a damn good looking amp to boot !! Great video !!
Shame the cheaper small Marshalls always come with wimpy speakers and sound a bit thin. I had to put a 12" Veteran 30 clone in my DSL5c to bring it to life and make it the versatile amp it should have been. I imagine the even tinier 8" speaker in the Origin 5 does the little guy no favours :(
Single notes disguise the muddy sound of the bugera. If you play chords on the Bugera with the stock speaker it sounds like the amp's got a cold. I've put a Celestion in mine, now everything is like it should. Chords sound transparent and if I want mid boost (muddy chords) I use the Behringer tube screamer clone and it's back to the original speaker sound.
Bugera wins; hands down! - Bugera: deeper, fatter, creamier tone - Origin 5W: thin and less sustain ... even with the help of the pedals Great demo Shane, and thanks again for reconfirming my lack of enthusiasm for Origin 5W. On your outfit: I thought you were transitioning to a more "Mark Zuckerberg" look :-)
Never tried the 5 but the v22 bugera is heaven with some pedals. Hands down best amp I've owned and the sound ohhh that sound it speaks to me and 30 minutes into a set it just gets better
Shit. I must be the only person that doesn't think the Marshall sounds bad, but I agree the Bugera has got a bit more of everything. The bigger argument however is the price discrepancy! Shane, I really thank you for answering my question around the Katana vs the Champ' 100 in recent live stream you conducted. Having played both in my local music store today however, I'm convinced I have to stretch my budget to an all valve amp.
The Marshall sounded quite nasal to me compared to the more broadband Bugerra. But it was also more defined. My guess is it will stand out better in a mix or band situation.
Wow! The Marshall Origin sold it's soul (spelling edit) and Bugera bought it. If each amp had not been announced, I would have thought I was hearing the Marshall when I was hearing the Bugera.
Might be because i got one, but the Marshall is the best to me. I love this crunch and the numerous equalization possibilities. Even if it's called vintage, the Bugera sounds much modern to me. "Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." xD
The Bugera sounded better in the majority of circumstances to me, save the straight flush comparison, I actually preferred the sound of the Origin 5 at that particular moment. I’ve just ordered an Origin 20 as being more suitable for me, but I would certainly look at the bugera if I wanted a 5 watter
I am completely blown away by the V-5. A great 5 Watt tube amp IMO. I've had mine for a couple years and it still impresses me. Thanks for the video.
You sold me on the bugera, I've only played solid state amps for over 10 years and I am about to go in and try the tube amps out for myself for the first time since I'm primarily a drummer, but you did a good example of the two. Straight to the point and no random riffs between differences. Super helpful!!
I bought one of the first Bugera V5 amps when they came out 10 years ago.
I use that amp almost everyday and I still love it.
I sell marshall code 25 last week and now i need find best amp sound tube amp but with best money of course.......i intend to this amp ,is this best amp ? And how often u change the tube ?
@@ekojulianto8034 I've owned one of the original blue light ones for over 10 years. I play it all the time and have never changed the tubes. Still sounds great. I do use an overdrive and or a distortion pedal in front if I want a heavy tone. The V5 by itself has a great clean tone, but you'll need a dirt box of your choice if you want heavy stuff. I love it.
@@cloudrun654 thanks man for u replying.....but iam still confused iam after bugera v5 with cheap price or i take Marshall DSL 1C head with joyo batancab 8inch speaker cabinet with celestion eight 15 .......
@@ekojulianto8034 Hello, Not sure about the DSL or the Joyo bantancab. All I can really tell you is that I've lots of amps over 25 years of playing. I really like the V5 for home playing and in a small group with my friends. I too have some joyo pedals. I like their overdrive and US Dream. I also have a delay pedal from music man, but I bought that stuff all over a number of years.
@@cloudrun654 thanks so much for u advice ,yes joyo have a good product ,the pedals is good,from price and the sound i have a few pedals from joyo like delay and us dreams to.....btw is bugera V5 is loud enough if use in home or small venue ? Iam ussually use 30 watts amp solid state that pretty loud enough for me,is samw with buggera with 5 watt power tube amp ?
As it turns out....I just ordered the Bugera a few days ago...then I found this demo. Listening to this demo makes me glad I did order the Bugera.
Delay pedal should go in the effects loop, which Bugera V5 doesn't have I believe. We put delays on the final distorted signal, putting a distortion on delay sounds as bad as I expected.
Finally got around to changing the combo for the house...) I looked and listened a lot, and settled on Bugera. Thanks for the help.
The Bugera crushed the Marshall!
EASILY
Definitly not on the very first test : however you're may not looking for the same i am ;)
Well done Shane ! A whole demo on bridge p/up WOW. Marshall all the way, I had a Bugera slightly underwhelmed after a period of time, it doesn't like low power setting either fries the valve. Cheers
@@mikesalt8248 All amps fry valves on the lower attenuated settings. It's because on the lower settings the amp is basically wide open all the time. You even play a Marshall 100 watt stack wide open all the time you start cooking valves. Hell the basic fact of life is the genuine overdriven tones that guitarists love are hard on amps tubes. Another basic fact is no matter what the amp brand is if you want genuine hard overdrive from tubes then you have to be willing pay the price of occasionally frying a tube.
Personally I just think I'm at the point of just buying a well designed solid state amp with good playing dynamics like the Roland Blues Cube and just be done with ALL tube maintenance hassle.
Just so you know. All the Marshall videos coming up were all shot on the same day which is why it looks like I never get changed 😆. Please let me know which one you think sounds better? I know which one I like more. You can also vote in the cards too. If you enjoy the video please give it the thumbs up. ☺️🙏 If you're keen on the Bugera check the links in the description.
I have a feeling the origin will take some more time dialing in to get a desired tone and probably more noticeable dialing in to get a good feel on how it reacts to your fingers
thats funny. could see the smile on your face every time you plugged into the bugera. dont know if yours is stock, but try putting an eminence 820h and tube swap to ehx tubes. use a gold pin for the 12ax7. its already good... but with those upgrades, crazy good.
I am really torn on the V5 or the V22 everytime I say im going with the V5 I hear a video where it sounds dinky and cant handle volume maybe its humbuckers it struggles with, is there enough headroom if you are just playing in the bedroom ? "help" lol
The Bugera is a great modding platform. I stabilized the enclosure, swapped the speaker (Celestion 8-15 instead of the Turbosound) and added a treble bleed to the volume pot. Huge difference but too crunchy for me (with the stock tubes). Changing the 12AX7 against a 12AU7 gave me the clean headroom I wanted but still allows me to "go dirty". The Celestion speaker provides more clarity and punch than the stock Turbosound speaker but is still not top. My next attempt is to swap the 8-15 against an alnico speaker. But for the form factor and price the Bugera V5 is really great.
I swapped the original Bugera 12AX7A for a NOS Sylvania grey plate 5751 and the EL84 for a NOS BEL (Mullard) 6BQ5 and the sound fattened up and the over brightness vanished. The Turbosound has improved with some hours so I'll probably leave it. Never thought of going down as low as an 12AU7 . I could try that later as I have a bunch of those from organ pulls.
@@jackbell4540 I have a NOS Mullard au7 in mine. got it from upscale audio. I get some beautiful clean chord melody sounds with this. I have a NOS power tube in it as well,
Would still love to hear the lonesome sound of these amps.
(ALL, by themselves, ALL alone and unattached)
Go Mr Clean on us.
I agree, I can nay hear the valves with all those silly effects. Just the amp, God damn it! No cables, mics, guitars or people. Pure & unadulterated amp in a woods with no one to hear it.
The Marshall sounded kinda thin, even with the od and delay. The Bugera..that cheap, oft maligned little Bugera...sounded absolutely FEROCIOUS! Bugera for the WIN!!!
Oh, and I'm totally NOT biased here, even though I own a Bugera Vintage22 combo and it's been my go to gigging rig for the last five years lol!
haha :-) awesome!
I'm in agreement with Celtic Fury. The Bugera sounds more aggressive, has louder mids, and just sounds bigger and fuller.
I am also totally not biased, with my main rig being a Bugera 6260 (5150 clone) 2x12 combo. You just can't beat them for the money.
Did you do any mods to it?
I use a Trirec Infinium and I am not speaking from a biased viewpoint here. The Bugera just flat sounded better, period
Bugera was thicker but also muddy sounding. Sometimes a thicker sound like the Bugera is more pleasing, but then the notes mush together. The Marshall origin has more note definition and sometimes that is a better sound
I'm curious how it sounds with a right handed guitar.
I liked the view Bugera amp more also
I have the origin 20h on the MXR412A cab, and as much as i love it, i'm honestly more excited for my infinium coming today. Great demo as always
I'm quite impressed with the "bigness" of the Bugera, though I'm still not a fan of the 8 inch speaker.
The Straight Flush pedal helped bring them closer but still preferred the Bugera overall. Great comparison, BTW.
You can put a tung sol 12ax7 and a Celestion 15-8 speaker in the Bugera like I did and still be well under $300...amazing how it sounds now!
Celestion Eight 15 speaker 4 ohm $29
Yep...I swapped out the stock tubes in my V5 for Tung Sol tubes and it changed the amp completely...way more brighter when you need it, run it through a Bugera 1×12 cab and it's great
Had the Bugera v5 and found it a bit dark and buzzy ..... Added a 3-way bright switch and 3-way negative feedback switch and it really made it into quite a versatile amp :)
I have A Bugera V55 and Fender Blues Deluxe reissue 40W. Ironically, the Fender is much loader at 40W than my V55. I like the V55 cause it has a switch to cut it down to 30W. It's a great amp for the price and I haven't an issue with it in 6 years. I tend to find Bugera to be more on the Fender side of tone than Marshall. Both my amps are huge and heavy to move around the house. I have a Cube 60 I use as a practice amp and it does almost a good job at getting a tube tone. But it's still hollow in sound and unlike a tube. The Clean channel is great.
Since I'm more a Fender amp person and looking for something small for living room just plugin and play practice, this V5 seems to hit the nail on the head. Your review is very helpful in my decision process.
Same mic and preamp path for both amps?
Question. What's the biggest size speaker that can go into the origin?
Shane, how about the Marshall DSL5CR vs that Origin?
The only Brand Loyalty that I have are to Cole Clark Guitars, Telecasters & Australian made Pedals {Dazzatronyx & Bondi Effects particularly}, but for a nice Blues Sound, the Bugera nails it. I know where part of my Tax Return is going this year. Well done mate, & don't stop "In The Blues", it's Quality that us Muso's really Appreciate.
how did u get a hold of left handed amps as well ? rare in these parts ....
amps are ambidexterous my dude!
SOLD! Bought it yesterday! LOVE IT! :)
I am assuming original tubes in the Bugera?
Hi!! Nice review man! I own a V5 and I’m happy with it but I can’t make it sound similar like you do... My guitar is a 2008 fender strat mexico improved with two Dimarzio cruiser pick ups and one Dimarzio tone zone s, I replaced 500k condensers instead the original ones and I play with a drive and boost pedal...
As a said, I like the sound I have but yours is far better than mine, what could be the reason for I can't sound as nice as you? Your sound is so powerfull and full of definition.. Im in love with it haha
did you replaced valves? wich ones? or you’ve made some modification on the amp?
could be my guitar is not good enough to sound like this?
I have to say that i play at home so I can't use the amp with volume's knob higher than 2, i live with my parents and if I play louder than this they'd complain... could it be the reason that makes the amp seems to sound worse than yours?
I have to say that i’m looking for the sound you get with telecaster, the high frequences are explosive and low frequences sounds with much definition, two most important things i need on my sound...
The sound you get with the LP is very impressive too on high frequences but I don’t like how low frequences sounds, there’s much less definition in comparison with low frequencies you get with telecaster
thanks man!! (And sorry for my english, I’m a beginner 😅 hope you understand my questions..)
I have had the V5 for a Bunch of years now and it was always a bit dark since I use mostly guitars with Humbuckers. I changed out the Tubes to better ones and replaced the speaker with an Eminence 8 inch Patriot and it now sounds fantastic to my ears even at low volume levels.
Love it.
Maybe try using a lower wattage, ie, the .1w or the 1w setting and crank that volume. May help you get a bit closer to his sound. Can't imagine the lowest setting upsetting the parents.
Shane, have you tried the bugera v22?
Yes, they are good amps. A friend of mine has one of the new V22's so I will borrow it and shoot a video coming up soon.
Yes i wanna see that too. Brugera dsl40c
Did you break in the Marshall speaker? The Bugera is broken in, right? Not that it would necessarily make a difference in the comparison...
My origin 5 needed 12 hour continuous break in, then it came alive. The amp sounded a bit quieter after break in so needed crank more, which also improved tone. Not really a strummers amp, great for thick tones and resonance and pedals. Well mine does. Sounded like cardboard to start with.
Thanks Shane for all your informative and fun videos. If I want to know about a new (sometimes obscure) pedal amp etc. I look here. Glad I found your channel.
Thanks William 👍
I have a Bugera V22 Combo and a Head. I really like these amps. I play in a cover band that does 60’s to early 80’s and this amp dies the job. Put some Mullard reissues and it warmed up that amp big time pre and power section. Have an Au7 in V2 position. took away the fizzy overdrive and gave it a better range of use. Great demo thanks
Marshall sure has gone to hell over the last several decades.
An old solid state Lead 12 from the 80s sounds better than that thing, it's pathetic.
Bugera's Infinium line is pretty amazing for the price, I have the Bugera 1960 head, and that thing is ridiculous.
Jet City also makes some incredible sounding amps for the price.
Seems like if you want to get a decent brand new amp from Marshall nowadays, you better be prepared to spend thousands of dollars on their British made amps.
You deserve tons of credit for making an honest review, instead of using production techniques to make the amp sound better than it really does like so many other RUclipsr do,.... thanks.
Marshall would rather sell you headphones... what has happened to that firm?
just bought the bugera, thx, love your reviews
I would say the Bugara wins. The Marshall sounds ok, but still was missing that " something ". I will have to try the Marshall out the next time I go to a music store so I can hear it live. Great video as always, Cheers!
A question of speaker. Plexi style, so it's brighter. Eq in the fx and you'll achieve the same tone.
Can you do a comparison between the Marshall origin and the blues junior?
Or the bassbreaker
WHY???? THE FENDERS DESTROY THEM
I agree Marshalls been trying to make a combo for 50 years unsuccessfully.
Late to the party, but that little Bugera is a little ripper! The Marshall seemed to be all mids with no color to it. 🤙🏻
I put a celestion eight 15 $35 in my V5 and it’s fantastic!
I was afraid of the Bugera sounding a bit toy like, but damn, it has some tasty tones and a very affordable price. Think I might have to check one out.
Did you?
Hard to know whether it's because of the small speaker and cabinet, but i'm not loving what i've been hearing from the Origin. I was 'psyched' at NAMM to see it, but i'm very glad i didn't wait for it, and instead got the Katana 100w head.
Bugera shat on the Marshall. I’ve had a few Marshall combos in the last few years. A few cabs too. They all were less than impressive. I would’ve never looked at Bugera if my buddy didn’t have one. Thing sounded killer. I now own 3 myself.
I preferred the Bugera, but that's just my personal preference, which is always right for me. :P Cool comparison! I know the price difference over here in the North Pole, but how do they differ in your area?
Hi, can I get Slash distortion tone with this amp? Thanks
At one point the Marshall sounded spongy in a good way. Several years ago when the 5watters were a craze. I had a bunch of brands. The bugera 5 and the vibrochamp xd were my favorites. Kept the vibro cuz of the different voicing and effects, since I don't have a budget to spend on pedals I sold the rest. I still run the vibro through a bugera 212 cab, go figure! I'll go with the bug.
I've only just discovered Bugera amps, they seem like excellent value for money.
I preferred the breakup on the Bugera. The Marshall sounded harsh and crackly in comparison.
Wow, shocked. I will be looking into the Bugeras. I should have known as I have a Peavy Windsor head that I love and only cost me 200.00 Thank You for this
how does the bugera sound all knobs on 10?
I currently own a Marshall Origin 50w, and ordered the Bugera 5w as a portable rehearsal amp so I wouldn't have to lug my Marshall around more than I have to. This video definitely made me more excited for the Bugera to come in the mail!
Where the hack is a Fender Amp with a simple Power Reduction? A Blues Jr. with switchable 15/5/1 Watts a.a.e.
I understand that Fender wants to stick to tradition - but that doesn't do me a favor as a musician.
did you change the speaker on the Bugera
No, the speaker is stock.
Well, the Bugera rips. I haven't really liked any of the new generation of Marshal amps, the dsl or the origin series, all made in Vietnam or China right? Played a lot of them in stores before buying the Orange OR-15.
Thanks dude. The new DSL40CR is a killer amp. The thing is though you have to dial them in a particular way with the master volumes up all the way or it doesn't shine. You then can adjust the channel volumes as per normal. :-) . See if you can find my live clip using it and see what you think. I won't be buying any of the Origin amps myself, they aren't my sort of thing. They are all made in Vietnam yep and the Bugera is Chinese made.
Yeah I watched your clip earlier, sounds good live. I really tried to like them when I was testing them but they never really did it for me, not enough to buy one anyway. Perhaps it's because I wanted something very different from my Fender, which I sold by the way. It's all about what moves you at the time right? :)
Bugera!~ How about comparing the Bugera with the Blues Junior?
I think it wouldn't be fair : the price and the quality are definitly not the same. You could buy almost 3 Bugerra for a BJ xD Unfortunatly, there's no Fender at the same price. The Bass Breaker is the cheapest fender amp and it costs 100 € (hi from france !^^) more than Buggera/Marshall.
But it could be interesting though.
Ignore "ajjay". it's not about price point, it's about the circuit and speaker. The Bugera's a single-ended class A tube amp. One pre-amp tube, one power sections tube, going into an 8" speaker. The BJ is a push-pull, class A/B tube amp. Two pre-amp tubes and two power section tubes going into a 12" speaker.
They DO sound similar though because of how they're voiced. Unlike a Epiphone Valve Junior head, which is grainy and shrill, the Bugera is voiced for warmth, like a BJ. I LOVE my Bugera, but seriously DISlike my Valve Junior, although it has it's uses. Both 5 watt tube amps that sound nothing alike.
The Bugera will never compete with a BJ for sheer volume (5w vs 15w), or tone shaping due to it's minimal control set.
That said, the single power amp tube in the Bugera gives you the even-order harmonics that sound 'sweet' and a bit more 'ragged' to our ears, while the BJ will give you odd-order harmonics that will come across as smoother.
Both are absolutely good amps.
But if you want a low price 15 watt amp much like the BJ, get a Monoprice 15 watter. It sounds VERY good, for $200, like a cross between a Blues Junior and an AC15. Real spring reverb, standby switch, and a four band EQ. FANTASTIC little amp for guitar OR harmonica, if you're a bluesman like myself. If I had to choose one 'desert island' amp, it would be that one. Flexible enough to do nearly everything but ultra-high-gain stuff.
That's a nice Bugera! :-) Great job as always mate! Would be ineresting to see you do the Laney VC 15/ 30 some time.
A trick : watch series on flixzone. I've been using them for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Callen Darian Yea, I have been using flixzone for months myself :)
@Callen Darian Definitely, I have been using flixzone for years myself =)
@Callen Darian yea, I've been using flixzone for since november myself =)
@Callen Darian Yup, been watching on Flixzone for since december myself =)
the bugera has a jensen speaker ?
Marshall sounds a little nazelly, Bugera sounded fuller!
I'm with you - Bugera! BUT what are they both like clean before they break up - ie what volume level? Thanks. Always great.
Please do - Bugera V5 vs Fender Pro jr.
I have a Marshall, DSL 100HR head with the Marshall slanted cab with 4x12 Celestions in the cab and I also have this Bugera V5 Infinium that Shane is playing in this video and everything he said about this Bugera is 100% accurate and true. I have had so many tube amps by Fender, Vox, Marshall, etc etc and I have also had solid state amps by, Katana, Orange, etc etc and this here Bugera amp can not only keep up with the best of them but it also beats many of them to the finish line. This little guy might be small and cute looking but trust me its a beast and it will bite you lol. If your contemplating on purchasing this amp dont think any longer and buy it, you will not be sorry. A few years ago this very amp was almost a $100 dollars cheaper and because of the redesigning to make it what it is today the prices kept sky rocketing on it and at about $280 - $300 dollars it is still a great deal for how this amp sounds. Other amps that dont sound this good cost double and way much more.
I have to get One 0,1 Watt for home. Do you think Bugera V5 or T5(+10" Cub) Is a better choise than Marshall DSL1C? DSL1 has better High gain for metal and a send return for ambient pedals.
I am an owner of the older series Bugera v5.
I changed out my speaker to an Eminence patriot because the amp sounded a little dark. I understand the newer speakers sound better.
Anyway, I am very impressed how the Bugera sounded here compared to the Marshall. The Marshall sounded good but not as good as the Bugera to my ears.
The Bugera V5 is definitely a gem of an amp for a great price.
Thanks for doing this video.
I’ve got the old version V55. Only swapped tubes, and re biased. Put in a eminence cannabis Rex speaker. It sounds great and I’ve never had a single issue with the amp even bought it used. Idk why so many claim they blow there’s up? I may try a brighter speaker though.
Ugh, the delay. Why even have it on? Doesn't help with an amp comparison. Either way though, thanks for the vid. It's appreciated. Interesting results.
I hear two different amps with different sounds and both sound good. Question of taste: I like the sound of the Bugera more. However, if you want your Bugera sounds more brilliant as the Marshall - change the speaker for a 100$.
for which speaker?
@@SergeiVlassov After a bit of searching around, "Celestion eight 15" seems to be a popular choice.
@@endreszatmari2302 thanks! Yes, I also found this choice, but also jensen speakers, those used in early Fender Champs.
@@SergeiVlassov Do you have the amp? I just ordered it. I'm a little worried it may be too dark with humbuckers.
@@endreszatmari2302 no, I have other amps, it was more like one-time wish ) Probably one day for experiments, as it is dirty cheap, on looks cool! Please write about your experience! As I understood, they are indeed dark with a stock speaker.
I thought they both sounded crap, so I guess I'd be less upset about buying the Bugera.
Fektthis at the last count there are over 65 million people living in the UK.
When it comes to buying new guitar amplifiers you usually get exactly what you pay for. There are a few diamonds in the rough though.
@@sweepphreak, RUclips demos have no depth and always sound terrible. Out of the box, Bugera's V% does Marshall tones better than Marshall Origin does Marshall tones.
Nice overdrive sounds man... very natural sounding. Liked your amp more than the marshall though
I have been excited to hear the Origin series but the Bugera definitely sounds better in this video. Maybe the Origin 20 will sound better? I hope so. Good stuff, Shane.
The 20 is much, much better than the 5 that's for sure. The 20 will be up next. ☺️
intheblues Can't wait! Thanks for what you do. It's helpful as well as entertaining. And I trust your opinion.
Hello Shane, I want to buy an amp to pratice in the studio with my band and possibly to gig too, I know you like a ot the Peavey Bandit wich I can fin it here for arround 100 to 150 euros, but recently I have wached some videos about the Bugera V22 (I know is a tube amp but I don´t Know if that is something I need) for arround 200 euros, so mi question is... wich one would you choose? thanks in advence! your chenel is very informative for me.
I read somewherr about upgrading the speaker in my V5 ... put a Jensen in it and the difference is night and day ... sounds incredible. Still shocked at the sound and build quality of this amp especially for the price ...
When comes the marshall origin 20 review, I can't wait ?
Great comparison, but the Origin series maybe should be compared with the bugera V55 which has 6L6 tubes, and not with the V5 which has EL84 (the same of his bigger brother V22)
So a most fair comparison should be:
Marshall Origin series (50) vs Bugera V55
Marshall DSL series vs Bugera V5/22
I bought the Bugera G5 head on your recommendation. Not sorry at all. So many tones to this little amp. I'd buy it again!
Hi there,
thanks for the comparison video. Honest and unbiased as per. I appreciate it’s not the model you are reviewing here but just wanted to mention my experience with Bugera kit. Hopefully you don’t object?
I’d been umming and ahhing for ages over the Bugera V22 Infinium as I didn’t really believe that for such little cash it could be quite as good as claimed. I’ve used some (cheap as they come) Beringer pedals and been very satisfied with their performance.
Although a little different, with that in mind I thought WTF just buy it. It would be a massive hassle, but I could always return it if it turned out to be a mistake anyway.
Recently took the plunge, bought the V22 head along the 212TS cabinet. It’s going absolutely nowhere and it’s far exceeded my expectations. I’m astonished by the quality of the tone I’m getting and just wish bought it ages ago rather than fannying around. I’m very, very happy. Unless, unlike the majority of us, you have money to burn and are able to justify spending a good few thousand, I’d confidently advise (obviously dependant on an individuals requirements) this gear every time.
I know it’s not a consideration here but it actually looks fantastic too.
Thanks again for all your enjoyable videos.
Cheers,
Si.
Bugera for me
I think I preferred the Bug. That said, both had a bit of an angry beehive tone. Can you do the same comparison at lower gain settings please.
Hearing both together kinda tells me I am not that keen on either. The Bugera kicks that Marshalls ass though! Great job comparing the two though Shane.... Did that yesterday... Watched the Marshall and then straight to the Bugera review you did. ;-)
I know this is 4 y/o but... holy cats Bugera lol!!! Subbed.
Thank for this video mate! You´re right! the Marshall is more bright than Bugera; but the bugera have more distorsion. For the price, I prefer bugera...
I think the Marshall has better note definition while the Bugera has a fuller tone. But to be honest, I really don't care for either. They both sound "farty" due to their 8" speakers. I hope you do a review of the Origin 50C, which has a 12“ speaker. I believe that Marshall made a mistake by not putting 12" speakers in the 3 different models of the Origin combos. Love your channel, BTW!
I tried the Bugera V5 once on the clean settings with my strat and it sounded pretty warm on the neck pickup. People say that amp doesn't take overdrive pedals too well... If you own one, please let me know what are your thoughts about it?
It takes pedals great 👍
BUGERA WINS !!! This is why I no longer own Marshall and I own a Bugera V55 Infinium !! Hard to believe that Behringer is Bugera's parent company. I love my V55 ....I can get any tone I want and it's a damn good looking amp to boot !! Great video !!
Shane will you do a review of the Marshall origin 50 head/combo? I think it would be great for a frusciante /Hendrix type tone. Btw your tone rocks. 🤘
Shame the cheaper small Marshalls always come with wimpy speakers and sound a bit thin. I had to put a 12" Veteran 30 clone in my DSL5c to bring it to life and make it the versatile amp it should have been. I imagine the even tinier 8" speaker in the Origin 5 does the little guy no favours :(
Single notes disguise the muddy sound of the bugera. If you play chords on the Bugera with the stock speaker it sounds like the amp's got a cold. I've put a Celestion in mine, now everything is like it should. Chords sound transparent and if I want mid boost (muddy chords) I use the Behringer tube screamer clone and it's back to the original speaker sound.
Bugera wins; hands down!
- Bugera: deeper, fatter, creamier tone
- Origin 5W: thin and less sustain ... even with the help of the pedals
Great demo Shane, and thanks again for reconfirming my lack of enthusiasm for Origin 5W.
On your outfit: I thought you were transitioning to a more "Mark Zuckerberg" look :-)
Never tried the 5 but the v22 bugera is heaven with some pedals. Hands down best amp I've owned and the sound ohhh that sound it speaks to me and 30 minutes into a set it just gets better
Damnit Shane, now I want a Bugera V5...
It'd have been cool to see single coils without the delay.
the marshall sounds lovely...
Shit. I must be the only person that doesn't think the Marshall sounds bad, but I agree the Bugera has got a bit more of everything. The bigger argument however is the price discrepancy! Shane, I really thank you for answering my question around the Katana vs the Champ' 100 in recent live stream you conducted. Having played both in my local music store today however, I'm convinced I have to stretch my budget to an all valve amp.
Thank you Shane. 1 more vote for the Bugera.
The Marshall sounded quite nasal to me compared to the more broadband Bugerra. But it was also more defined. My guess is it will stand out better in a mix or band situation.
I love them both tbh, I'd maybe go with the marshall if i was buying a new amp
Been playing on a bugera amp for a few years now though and love it
That beautiful Marshall shrill it just great but think the Origin 5 struggles with the low end gets muddy - Roll on the Origin 20 !
Wow! The Marshall Origin sold it's soul (spelling edit) and Bugera bought it. If each amp had not been announced, I would have thought I was hearing the Marshall when I was hearing the Bugera.
Might be because i got one, but the Marshall is the best to me. I love this crunch and the numerous equalization possibilities. Even if it's called vintage, the Bugera sounds much modern to me.
"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." xD
Low gain Marshall sounds very "Farty"
I love my Bugera V5. You can’t beat them for the $$$
The Bugera sounded better in the majority of circumstances to me, save the straight flush comparison, I actually preferred the sound of the Origin 5 at that particular moment. I’ve just ordered an Origin 20 as being more suitable for me, but I would certainly look at the bugera if I wanted a 5 watter
Damn for a wee amp the Bugera sounded great vs. the marshall
The Bug without any doubt ! Btw, my Bug Vintage 5 has beaten my Mesa TA 15 .
Wanna see a dsl20 or 40c vs Brugera amps!
I have same Bugera, Love It!!
No comparison