...and all the debt paid off! The idea that the likes of chelsea can spend more than Manchester United is clearly ludicrous. Without Rat's bid, there was a great chance that the Glazers would have sold to Qatar.
That’s the most sensible comment I’ve read today. I’m bored of pundits and journalists talking nonsense, they don’t know anything about the club or fans
@kylestanley1160 @kylestanley1160 that was a story spread by the Glazers to take the heat off them for not going through with a full sale. In fact, the Q ataris threatened to sue for releasing that ridiculous story. And think about... why would they go through that whole, expensive, long-running rigmarole if they didn't have the money?
That's saying you wanted Santa Claus.... The issue is that Glazers bought the club with leveraged debt which they then put on the club. And as Jordan notes the option of a buyer playing Santa Claus is no longer an option.
I want to look a move into a mansion tomorrow but that’s not happening so instead of dreaming up scenarios, focus on reality. There was no bid that proposed that option.
Most United fans wanted a full sale, Glazers gone and the debt taken away. Anything else, new stadium(more debt), rejuvenate the area etc etc was secondary. Maybe thirdly if you put the squad competing second. He ended up propping the Glazers up. And then trying to put ticket prices up and he said it was for a small number of tickets. Don't be fooled, this was testing the water to put every type of ticket up.
Not one person the planet was willing to pay $7b You were demanding something that couldn't happen. The way they did the £66 thing was wrong, but ticket prices have increased by 10% over the last 13 years, they have to go up at some point.
@@creepingbrain stop pretending like there wasn’t an offer from a Qatari bank with Jassim as the front man. Ticket prices are too expensive now, never mind going up. If he couldn’t afford the club, he shouldn’t have propped the Glazers up.
@@stretfordender11 Jassim didn't bid as much as SJR. He didn't get within $2b of the asking price. He refused to give equal consideration to the A shareholders despite being told he had todo so. And he failed to provide proof of funding. His bids were a farce, you got conned.
£1.2b received by the Glazers could’ve paid off the debt and still given them a big bonus that’s what they should’ve done but in giving them the money Ratcliffe is complicit in them staying at the expense of the club.
@ I don’t think either will be at the club in a couple of years time once the redevelopment has been agreed some other party will see the opportunities it will bring and make an approach to buy the club outright.
As soon as Ratcliffe is able to buy the whole club from the Glazers. He will not pay back the debt until he owns the club in order not to help the Glazers. So first buy the club from the Glazers and then pay back the debt.
@@Hansimullerboy not a chance , that would be money down the drain , he is a man in his 70s why would he waste his kids inheritance . Would you do that ???
Very naive comment if sir jim did buy the whole club he would only be turning his cash into an asset he would not be losing money.@@craiggeessports1677
People claim PSR doesn't work and is only there to suit the big boys. But we're seeing the benefits of it here. 10 years ago UTD could just raid Bournemouth, Forrest or Villa and attempt to buy themselves out of trouble. They can't now though. The clubs who recruited well are thriving right now. Clubs like Liverpool, Forrest and Bournemouth are all reaping the rewards of recruiting well over the last few years. And UTD can't just sweep in and pilfer those clubs for whoever they want. Not that they would be taking Liverpool players but they'd be sweeping up all the talent from all the other clubs that have recruited better than they have over the last few years
Man utd spending millions every year with millions in debt......no sanctions... Where as Villa and Newcastle forced to sell players to comply with PSR.... not for the big boys you say.
The glazers are are j e w s. There's a reason they were kicked out of over 110 countries in history. Reason for most of the world's problems too! Greed never satisfied
The PROBLEM is the DEBT and INTEREST PAYMENTS. The Glazers took all the money from Ratcliffe and have loaded the club with their debt. We needed a full sale!
Ratcliffe, a fan who could bail out the club from his own resources if he wanted to, but instead prefers to hammer loyal supporters who can barely afford a match ticket before the price increases. Never trust a billionaire- they got rich for a reason - always happy to exploit others.
Still nearly 600 million in debt from the original purchase, the charge is around £60 million in interest. Financial fair play takes this interest into account. Never mind raising ticket prices. Why dont the Glazers pay this off. Scum
@@andymccowan8399 they rushed them in because of Newcastle and city told everyone in the league this will open a can of worms and look what’s happened
Simon is talking absolute nonsense. Stopping that 63 million in interest payments annually by clearing the debt would be a start. How can you have an original loan of 700 million and 20 years later the loan is practically still the same? Make that make sense
The Glazer debt is £19m a year on average, £24m last year. There's no mechanism to deal with it right now. The Glazer Debt is the least of our worries right now.
Who's stopping the interest payments? Think about it. The glazers have never ever had an intention to clear the debt. And sir Jim, regardless of what anyone thinks, why would he/should he clear a 1b debt that a) isn't his and b) if he did, the glazers could literally just take out loans against the club AGAIN because they still own 75% of it. He'd be an absolute mug to clear that debt before he owns the club outright. I wouldn't do it, and I doubt anybody else would either whilst still holding just 25% of the club
@ Please do some proper research the recent financial reports that came out showed £63 million in interest payments. There was a mechanism in place called a full sale, or the owners can finally come out their pockets and clear the debt. 18 months ago they got £1.2 billion. How much of that money when back into the club? Zero!
@ I wasn’t saying Sir Jim should be the one to clear the debt. The Glazer’s were the ones who put the club in debt and should be the ones who clear it.
@@sirmarcus1 No. You've followed the sheep. The £61m was NET FINANCE COSTS. Net Finance Costs is NOT the cash cost of the debt. Look at the consolidated cashflow statement for the cash cost of the debt. Last year it was £24m for the Glazer debt and £13m for the RCF. Since the 2015 refinancing the cash cost of the Glazer Debt has been on average £19m a year. Nobody was willing to pay the $7b for a full sale, stop crying about it. And when shareholders sell shares the money goes to the shareholders, not the company.
Missing the point guys; United have paid £1.5b in interest payments to a debt that the club didn't create. The solution is for someone wealthy to clear the debt.
Who? Who was going to spend $7b buying the whole club? And on top of all that supporters also wanted new owners to pay $3b+ for a new stadium. And they also don't want any of the cost-cutting, so they want the owners to chuck in $100m a year to cover losses. What world do you people live in where you think anybody would be wiling to do that.
@@creepingbrainfootball fans are ridiculous honestly, they have no idea what they are talking about when it’s comes to the financial aspect of how a club runs.
2 billionaire owners turned into 3 billionaire owners... but the supporters carry the bill. Privatize the profits, socialize the loses... how billionaires become multi-billionaires.
Very disappointing to see how man utd fans are treating sir jim ratcliffe in one year he already put in over a billion of his own money into the club while the glazers been draining our club for the last 20 years
When you walk through a storm Hold your head up high And don't be afraid of the dark At the end of a storm There's a golden sky And the sweet silver song of a lark Walk on through the wind Walk on through the rain For your dreams be tossed and blown Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
@ he should’ve bought the whole club & cleared the debts or not got involved at all. All he’s done is facilitate the glazers staying which absolutely no United fan wanted
Typical comments by football fans on here. They all says "It's my club" but want someone else to put their hands in their pockets to fund it for their amusement.
For simons information United fans never wanted Sir Jim or anybody to get into bed with the Glazers ,We wanted a FULL SALE ONLY ,get your facts right before you try calling us out !!
The hypocrisy from Jim is insane. He's advocating for United fans approaching Ratcliffe stating "why should we pay for it", and then completely against the Arsenal fans (and others) for stating the clear and obvious errors from Michael Oliver, and the statistical signs of bias. He's been poor on this show for the last 3 months.
Sorry didn't want Radcliffe , we wanted the Glazer's gone and a full sale . If we had got that the new owners were going to pay the debt off build a new stadium and do the infrastructure around the ground , but now it looks like the tax payers are going to foot the bill so the Glazer's make more money with out putting any in . I've been a Man United fan for sixty years and my heart breaks for what's happened to my beloved club.
When you walk through a storm Hold your head up high And don't be afraid of the dark At the end of a storm There's a golden sky And the sweet silver song of a lark Walk on through the wind Walk on through the rain For your dreams be tossed and blown Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
Im a utd fan and i wanted qatar. I thought ineos sole purpose was to concentrate the sporting side? Why is ineos involved in the redundancies and cost cuttings
Simon Jordan defending the hike in ticket prices, demostrates he has no understanding of the core values of football. Look at Germany, Munich still has season tickets for a few hundred euros. They have publically stated that hikes in prices will mean additional revenue but will harm the clubs relationship with its fans. What Radcliffe should be doing is reducing the playing staff who are on high wages, Rashford and Casimero for instance, if sent out the door will save more money in a matter of weeks than hiking kids and pensioners tickets all season.
Well, they're Manchester United, aren't they? You gotta pay top dollar to see the best team in the world. So much history. All the titles. That's worth at least £66.
If Sir Jim is a true United fan why would he stop people who are capable of wiping and reseting the clubs financial obligations and who are capable of reshaping the greater Manchester area with alot of economic opportunities/growth from buying the club instead he chose to help the Glazers ... And the fans and everybody around the club are suffering.. He is not a true fan.. Just another business man who are preparing to suck the club dry in couple years
Ratcliffe is a business man and a very very casual football watcher. He ONLY cares about a new stadium and the income it will generate around the area of Manchester
The fans ARE the club! Alienate the fans by making their access unaffordable, and you have no club! The fans didn’t waste millions on abysmal recruitment, vastly overpay very average players, pay millions to recruit a director of football then millions more to sack him a few months later. The people who made these atrocious decisions should be payng the price, not loyal fans who struggle from day to day to make ends meet.
Sponsorship is a form of income that is scrutinised by the Premier league . Attendance and ticket prices are also a form of income. Why are the premier league not scrutinising this as well
If United were to somehow miraculously turn things around on the pitch and did the treble in a few years, what would the fans be saying about the ownership/ticket prices etc then?
Manchester United before the Glazers was a fully functional multinational company. If left alone united the company would have a hefty bank balance with no debt
As much as I think the fans shouldn’t pay for the Glazers mismanagement. But when you call yourself a supporter. Supporting the club via financial is a good way of showing it. If you can’t afford the season ticket. Give it up to the thousands in the queue who can afford it.
3:14 The Glazers took the upside when it was good. And want to take while it's bad, too. They refuse to wear the hard times, though. Why should kids and pensioners fund that?
People don’t understand this. Because of PSR rules Ratcliffe can’t just throw his own money at it. Just look at Newcastle. So as Jordan says one of the levers to make the club more profitable and generate funds for transfers is to raise revenue I.e. tickets prices. Not saying it’s fair or correct but how else are they gonna improve seeing as past recruitment has been awful. Yes the fans are being asked to dig them out of the hole
PIF bought Newcastle and we had no debt! Our previous owner didn't spend a penny to Improve our team. PSR got worse when the Saudi bought us. Tbh I'm glad we are doing it the right way instead of buying our way to Improve. Let's not forget the big six brought this all on themselves.
It’s not about PSR. Man United is a business and has generated debts due to bad decisions like hire fire hire fire. They need to go into administration or pay your debts.
This guy. The majority of Man Utd fans wanted Qatar to buy the club to get rid of the debt of this great club. Main stream again they are the ones that didn’t want Qatar to take over 🤢🤢
Who's stopping the interest payments? Think about it. The glazers have never ever had an intention to clear the debt. And sir Jim, regardless of what anyone thinks, why would he/should he clear a 1b debt that a) isn't his and b) if he did, the glazers could literally just take out loans against the club AGAIN because they still own 75% of it. He'd be an absolute mug to clear that debt before he owns the club outright. I wouldn't do it, and I doubt anybody else would either whilst still holding just 25% of the club
The only people that can afford Man Utd would be imo someone from the middle east 1 of the oil countries but they'll not be allowed to buy more than 1 club in England in a way am surprised they havent been bought already that shows in my mind that they have no interest in selling the club
Simon is missing the fact that the debt created by the Glazers hampers Manchester Utd. One of the biggest clubs in world footbll should and could be self sufficient. The Glazers are the worst thing to happen to Utd since the Munich Disaster!
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No Simon, we didn't want Ratcliffe. We wanted a full sale & Glazers gone
...and all the debt paid off! The idea that the likes of chelsea can spend more than Manchester United is clearly ludicrous. Without Rat's bid, there was a great chance that the Glazers would have sold to Qatar.
That’s the most sensible comment I’ve read today. I’m bored of pundits and journalists talking nonsense, they don’t know anything about the club or fans
@@TheShotenZenjin the Qataris could never prove they had the money.
@kylestanley1160 @kylestanley1160 that was a story spread by the Glazers to take the heat off them for not going through with a full sale. In fact, the Q ataris threatened to sue for releasing that ridiculous story. And think about... why would they go through that whole, expensive, long-running rigmarole if they didn't have the money?
@@TheShotenZenjinand all the debts paid off....who's going to pay that then
Ratcliffe a United fan? He owns a season ticket at chelsea 🤣
@@ga222-g1k he wants to watch good football 🤣
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
@@ga222-g1k 😂😂😂
Plus he's from hull lol
No we didnt want Ineos. We wanted owners who able to buy 100% and pay the debt
Nobody was going to do that
That's saying you wanted Santa Claus.... The issue is that Glazers bought the club with leveraged debt which they then put on the club. And as Jordan notes the option of a buyer playing Santa Claus is no longer an option.
Why would anyone do that? Are you stupid?
I want to look a move into a mansion tomorrow but that’s not happening so instead of dreaming up scenarios, focus on reality. There was no bid that proposed that option.
@@kylestanley1160 there was a Qatari chap offered to do just that.
"Ratcliffe abused by United fans" oh gawd, won't somebody please think of the poor billionaire extorting the working class fans.
Poor billionaires who won't pay off the debt that we waste 60 million on every year.
😂😂 “working class fans”
Have a day off Mick Lynch. Nobody is interested in that nonsense any more.
Oh gawd won't somebody please think of united fans. They can't even afford £66
@@stretfordender11 why would they pay the off the debt of something they don't fully own?
@@sley6405 oh yeah, that's very cheap to watch a lot of rubbish. I don't know what anyone's complaining about.
Most United fans wanted a full sale, Glazers gone and the debt taken away. Anything else, new stadium(more debt), rejuvenate the area etc etc was secondary. Maybe thirdly if you put the squad competing second. He ended up propping the Glazers up. And then trying to put ticket prices up and he said it was for a small number of tickets. Don't be fooled, this was testing the water to put every type of ticket up.
Not one person the planet was willing to pay $7b
You were demanding something that couldn't happen.
The way they did the £66 thing was wrong, but ticket prices have increased by 10% over the last 13 years, they have to go up at some point.
@@creepingbrain stop pretending like there wasn’t an offer from a Qatari bank with Jassim as the front man. Ticket prices are too expensive now, never mind going up. If he couldn’t afford the club, he shouldn’t have propped the Glazers up.
@@stretfordender11 their wasn't mate, otherwise they'd own the club
@@stretfordender11 Jassim didn't bid as much as SJR. He didn't get within $2b of the asking price. He refused to give equal consideration to the A shareholders despite being told he had todo so. And he failed to provide proof of funding. His bids were a farce, you got conned.
Keep dreaming
£1.2b received by the Glazers could’ve paid off the debt and still given them a big bonus that’s what they should’ve done but in giving them the money Ratcliffe is complicit in them staying at the expense of the club.
Correct. The Glaze just banked the money. Ratcliffe just did not care about it.
@ I don’t think either will be at the club in a couple of years time once the redevelopment has been agreed some other party will see the opportunities it will bring and make an approach to buy the club outright.
@@albertbrammer9263wrong, the money Ratcliffe has put in has not gone to the Glazers.
😂😂😂😂😂. Glazers lied to Ratcliffe
With what Sir Jim Ratcliffe is doing, if you haven't got the money to invest in areas that isn't affected by PSR, why buy 30% of the club.
Because he can, simple as that really. He’s seen an opportunity to make money and that’s really the top and bottom of it. Typical business man.
United fans didn’t want Jim Ratcliffe 🐀.
1 Billion in debt, when is that going to be paid off?
Never , championship football within two years
As soon as Ratcliffe is able to buy the whole club from the Glazers. He will not pay back the debt until he owns the club in order not to help the Glazers. So first buy the club from the Glazers and then pay back the debt.
@@Hansimullerboy not a chance , that would be money down the drain , he is a man in his 70s why would he waste his kids inheritance . Would you do that ???
@@craiggeessports1677 I sure wouldn’t 😂😂😂
Very naive comment if sir jim did buy the whole club he would only be turning his cash into an asset he would not be losing money.@@craiggeessports1677
For the richest man in Britain, Ratcliffe does seem to love a government handout.
And he'ssomehow got the government to use rival rans (tax payers) money to regenerate old traffard, absolutely disgusting........
Im not even a utd fan but I applaud these lads 👏
RATcliffe = Ashley 2.0 .......HILARIOUS 😂😂
People claim PSR doesn't work and is only there to suit the big boys. But we're seeing the benefits of it here. 10 years ago UTD could just raid Bournemouth, Forrest or Villa and attempt to buy themselves out of trouble. They can't now though. The clubs who recruited well are thriving right now. Clubs like Liverpool, Forrest and Bournemouth are all reaping the rewards of recruiting well over the last few years. And UTD can't just sweep in and pilfer those clubs for whoever they want. Not that they would be taking Liverpool players but they'd be sweeping up all the talent from all the other clubs that have recruited better than they have over the last few years
Man utd spending millions every year with millions in debt......no sanctions...
Where as Villa and Newcastle forced to sell players to comply with PSR.... not for the big boys you say.
Bang on the money mate...
The Glazers had the opportunity to pay the debt with the £1.25 billion they made from Ratcliffe 27% stake in the club.
No they couldn't.
Why would they do that ?
The glazers are are j e w s. There's a reason they were kicked out of over 110 countries in history. Reason for most of the world's problems too! Greed never satisfied
The PROBLEM is the DEBT and INTEREST PAYMENTS. The Glazers took all the money from Ratcliffe and have loaded the club with their debt. We needed a full sale!
Sir Jim Ratcliffe Tax Exhile and Glazer lacky
Ratcliffe is a tax dodging multi-billionaire who represents the worst of capitalist greed. The guy is a Glazer with an English accent.
Wouldn’t you avoid tax if you could ?
Oh whatever he's a self made billionaire who grew up in a rough area of Manchester. He's worked hard for everything he's got in life.
Ratcliffe, a fan who could bail out the club from his own resources if he wanted to, but instead prefers to hammer loyal supporters who can barely afford a match ticket before the price increases.
Never trust a billionaire- they got rich for a reason - always happy to exploit others.
@lesmarsden2058 why would anyone do that when its not his debt and he doesn't own the entire football club
“They can’t pull anymore levers” How about offering a lucrative stadium sponsorship deal with SnapDragon for starters??
We never wanted Sir Ratcliffe
It's not the fans problem to figure out the solution
Stop calling Jim Ratcliffe a sir
It's actually embarrassing ffs 😂😂
Sir Keir Starmer, Sir Sadiq Khan, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Sir Jimmy Saville and it won't be long now arise Sir David Lammy.
INEOS AND THE RAT OUT.
Still nearly 600 million in debt from the original purchase, the charge is around £60 million in interest. Financial fair play takes this interest into account. Never mind raising ticket prices. Why dont the Glazers pay this off. Scum
Ask yourself this question, why did these clubs vote for the laws that they "complain" about now??
They vote for those laws to stop Man city from running riot (as if that has/would stop them) and now its biting them all in the bum.
Scared of newcastle
@@andymccowan8399 they rushed them in because of Newcastle and city told everyone in the league this will open a can of worms and look what’s happened
Simon is talking absolute nonsense. Stopping that 63 million in interest payments annually by clearing the debt would be a start. How can you have an original loan of 700 million and 20 years later the loan is practically still the same? Make that make sense
The Glazer debt is £19m a year on average, £24m last year. There's no mechanism to deal with it right now. The Glazer Debt is the least of our worries right now.
Who's stopping the interest payments? Think about it. The glazers have never ever had an intention to clear the debt. And sir Jim, regardless of what anyone thinks, why would he/should he clear a 1b debt that a) isn't his and b) if he did, the glazers could literally just take out loans against the club AGAIN because they still own 75% of it. He'd be an absolute mug to clear that debt before he owns the club outright. I wouldn't do it, and I doubt anybody else would either whilst still holding just 25% of the club
@ Please do some proper research the recent financial reports that came out showed £63 million in interest payments. There was a mechanism in place called a full sale, or the owners can finally come out their pockets and clear the debt. 18 months ago they got £1.2 billion. How much of that money when back into the club? Zero!
@ I wasn’t saying Sir Jim should be the one to clear the debt. The Glazer’s were the ones who put the club in debt and should be the ones who clear it.
@@sirmarcus1 No. You've followed the sheep. The £61m was NET FINANCE COSTS. Net Finance Costs is NOT the cash cost of the debt. Look at the consolidated cashflow statement for the cash cost of the debt. Last year it was £24m for the Glazer debt and £13m for the RCF. Since the 2015 refinancing the cash cost of the Glazer Debt has been on average £19m a year.
Nobody was willing to pay the $7b for a full sale, stop crying about it.
And when shareholders sell shares the money goes to the shareholders, not the company.
This all comes down to the glazers not paying off any debt they put against the club and only paying hundreds of millions in interest
Missing the point guys; United have paid £1.5b in interest payments to a debt that the club didn't create. The solution is for someone wealthy to clear the debt.
Who? Who was going to spend $7b buying the whole club? And on top of all that supporters also wanted new owners to pay $3b+ for a new stadium. And they also don't want any of the cost-cutting, so they want the owners to chuck in $100m a year to cover losses. What world do you people live in where you think anybody would be wiling to do that.
Nobody is going to pay 7b for United that’s just delusional.
@@creepingbrainfootball fans are ridiculous honestly, they have no idea what they are talking about when it’s comes to the financial aspect of how a club runs.
Im not a Man Utd fan but even i i know the majority didnt want Radcliffe in.
Simon Jordan nails it on the head of that ignorant fan!!!
NO we DID NOT want Jim Ratcliffe because we knew he would be just a puppet for the Galzers…. Oh and look what’s happened!
2 billionaire owners turned into 3 billionaire owners... but the supporters carry the bill. Privatize the profits, socialize the loses... how billionaires become multi-billionaires.
Very disappointing to see how man utd fans are treating sir jim ratcliffe in one year he already put in over a billion of his own money into the club while the glazers been draining our club for the last 20 years
Concentrating on a plan to pay off the debt rather than leaving it there should be priority no.1 😮
Why would they want to do that ?
@ because we repay 65 mil a year in interest. The debt is going up not down
Full Sale only... The Media wanted Sir Jim
Sir Jim will put up the prices even more to avoid fans like them. Tourists pay far more are more grateful and won’t abuse one of the owners.
Tourists in Manchester?
@ Loads of tourists from all over the world go to Premier League games now. There are even hotels dedicated to fans.
@ That's not what I asked
When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark
At the end of a storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark
Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
For your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
No Simon, how about the Glazer's put some of their own money in for once rather than put-up the ticket prices. They've literally never put a penny in.
And taken out millions every year
4:17 Guarantee the most replayed part of this is Simon failing to pronounce the word 'written'. 😂
Simon spot on as usual.
The Glazers nedd to piss off
That's why there are always tickets left every game, the sides rubbish to watch.
Put some of their own money in to clear debts
To be fair no one in the world will clear debt of a business that he doesn't own completely
@ ultimately he wants to own the club so it’s in his interest, unless that’s not what he wants from it then in that case he’s just another glazer
@ he should’ve bought the whole club & cleared the debts or not got involved at all. All he’s done is facilitate the glazers staying which absolutely no United fan wanted
@@jamesm1127lol you are delusional, nobody is going to pay 7b for a football club.
@ glazers would’ve been forced to sell for less till SJR saved them
Typical comments by football fans on here. They all says "It's my club" but want someone else to put their hands in their pockets to fund it for their amusement.
Glazer, INEOS out. Disgusting.
No Manchester United fan wanted Ineos, the Glazers irked the fans when they sold to a portion to ineos and ratcliffe
For simons information United fans never wanted Sir Jim or anybody to get into bed with the Glazers ,We wanted a FULL SALE ONLY ,get your facts right before you try calling us out !!
You should have stumped up the $7b if you wanted a full sale. What stopped you?
@creepingbrain I said its what people wanted are you dense
Simon - we fans did NOT want Ratcliffe in bed with Glazers - we wanted full sale to get rid of Glazers
The hypocrisy from Jim is insane. He's advocating for United fans approaching Ratcliffe stating "why should we pay for it", and then completely against the Arsenal fans (and others) for stating the clear and obvious errors from Michael Oliver, and the statistical signs of bias.
He's been poor on this show for the last 3 months.
Sorry didn't want Radcliffe , we wanted the Glazer's gone and a full sale . If we had got that the new owners were going to pay the debt off build a new stadium and do the infrastructure around the ground , but now it looks like the tax payers are going to foot the bill so the Glazer's make more money with out putting any in . I've been a Man United fan for sixty years and my heart breaks for what's happened to my beloved club.
When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark
At the end of a storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark
Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
For your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone
Glazers and Sir Jim will turn Man Utd into Spurs.
Where has the 1.2 billion gone?
Im a utd fan and i wanted qatar. I thought ineos sole purpose was to concentrate the sporting side? Why is ineos involved in the redundancies and cost cuttings
Because Ineos are running the whole club
Surely if debts from previous transfers were cleared then there would be no psr issue?
Simon Jordan defending the hike in ticket prices, demostrates he has no understanding of the core values of football. Look at Germany, Munich still has season tickets for a few hundred euros. They have publically stated that hikes in prices will mean additional revenue but will harm the clubs relationship with its fans. What Radcliffe should be doing is reducing the playing staff who are on high wages, Rashford and Casimero for instance, if sent out the door will save more money in a matter of weeks than hiking kids and pensioners tickets all season.
4:20: Anyone known what book Simon is referring too???
What’s this book they talk about?
Utd didn't want Jim Ratcliffe
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Well, they're Manchester United, aren't they? You gotta pay top dollar to see the best team in the world. So much history. All the titles. That's worth at least £66.
If Sir Jim is a true United fan why would he stop people who are capable of wiping and reseting the clubs financial obligations and who are capable of reshaping the greater Manchester area with alot of economic opportunities/growth from buying the club instead he chose to help the Glazers ... And the fans and everybody around the club are suffering.. He is not a true fan.. Just another business man who are preparing to suck the club dry in couple years
Any idea what Sir Jim was going to charge for a photograph?
Ratcliffe is looking more and more like Gordon Burns every day.
“Comes down to London” from where? Buckinghamshire?😂
Poor billionaire extorting working class fans.
No need to say anything else...😂
Ratcliffe should be regretting the move
And the likes of rachford earning more money in a week than the average guy earns in 10 years
Ratcliffe looks like he's aged 30yrs since he been at man u
Couldn’t happen to a better club and fans
Ratcliffe is a business man and a very very casual football watcher. He ONLY cares about a new stadium and the income it will generate around the area of Manchester
He was a Chelsea season ticket holder before he bought man utd 😂😂
CLEAR THE DEBT AND DON'T HIRE AN ACCOUNTANT TO DO TRANSFERS!!!! SIMON U MUPPET!!
The fans ARE the club! Alienate the fans by making their access unaffordable, and you have no club!
The fans didn’t waste millions on abysmal recruitment, vastly overpay very average players, pay millions to recruit a director of football then millions more to sack him a few months later. The people who made these atrocious decisions should be payng the price, not loyal fans who struggle from day to day to make ends meet.
‘we just want an owner who will rid us of the debt, buy all the best players and put us back top to where we belong’ 🤣
Sponsorship is a form of income that is scrutinised by the Premier league . Attendance and ticket prices are also a form of income. Why are the premier league not scrutinising this as well
To translate the letter for the fans who wants the Glazers to sell
YOU CANT SELL SOMETHING NOBODY WANTS
Jim Radcliffe is Ken Bates II. Following Ken's playbook to a T. Tough medice to swallow, however it saved both Chelsea and Leeds...
Tickets are only 66$? I have to pay like 400$ from scalpers
What is Simon Jordan talking about. Most fans wanted full sale.
it's not the Fans Fault , so what are they gonna do ? EASY SELL THE CLUB 100%
If United were to somehow miraculously turn things around on the pitch and did the treble in a few years, what would the fans be saying about the ownership/ticket prices etc then?
They'd want them out. Everytime United go ahead in a game, the first chant you'll hear post the celebrations is 'we want Glazers out'
@@Steve-kl3yl Right. What about SJR?
Manchester United before the Glazers was a fully functional multinational company. If left alone united the company would have a hefty bank balance with no debt
No guarantee new owners will make the club play better.
This continued defending of the Glazers is shameful from Simon
What about shareholders not taking money out and reinvesting?
A huge amount of money has been sucked out by the Glazers on an ownership model that was never for the benefit of the club.
We wanted a full sale and the glazers out!
As much as I think the fans shouldn’t pay for the Glazers mismanagement. But when you call yourself a supporter. Supporting the club via financial is a good way of showing it. If you can’t afford the season ticket. Give it up to the thousands in the queue who can afford it.
3:14 The Glazers took the upside when it was good.
And want to take while it's bad, too.
They refuse to wear the hard times, though.
Why should kids and pensioners fund that?
You can't take the upside and not the downside, good saying
But what are the upsides currently...
People don’t understand this. Because of PSR rules Ratcliffe can’t just throw his own money at it. Just look at Newcastle. So as Jordan says one of the levers to make the club more profitable and generate funds for transfers is to raise revenue I.e. tickets prices. Not saying it’s fair or correct but how else are they gonna improve seeing as past recruitment has been awful. Yes the fans are being asked to dig them out of the hole
PIF bought Newcastle and we had no debt! Our previous owner didn't spend a penny to Improve our team. PSR got worse when the Saudi bought us. Tbh I'm glad we are doing it the right way instead of buying our way to Improve. Let's not forget the big six brought this all on themselves.
I meant the situation Newcastle are in. If I understand correctly you have all the money but can’t spend feeely because of PSR
RATcliffe is here just to make more money out of working class.
People need to wake up 😂
Simon is wasting his time explaining the intricacies of the economics of football to these lot. At this point they'll never understand
why have they not delt with the players , why do they have to get away with every thing
Been a united fan for 35 years. Time to boycott. Watch on illegal streams. Give them nothing.
It’s not about PSR. Man United is a business and has generated debts due to bad decisions like hire fire hire fire. They need to go into administration or pay your debts.
This guy. The majority of Man Utd fans wanted Qatar to buy the club to get rid of the debt of this great club. Main stream again they are the ones that didn’t want Qatar to take over 🤢🤢
Fans don't care much about who owns the club. They just want bragging rights and trophies 😅
Who's stopping the interest payments? Think about it. The glazers have never ever had an intention to clear the debt. And sir Jim, regardless of what anyone thinks, why would he/should he clear a 1b debt that a) isn't his and b) if he did, the glazers could literally just take out loans against the club AGAIN because they still own 75% of it. He'd be an absolute mug to clear that debt before he owns the club outright. I wouldn't do it, and I doubt anybody else would either whilst still holding just 25% of the club
P.S not everyone wanted Ratcliff.
The only people that can afford Man Utd would be imo someone from the middle east 1 of the oil countries but they'll not be allowed to buy more than 1 club in England in a way am surprised they havent been bought already that shows in my mind that they have no interest in selling the club
Simon is missing the fact that the debt created by the Glazers hampers Manchester Utd. One of the biggest clubs in world footbll should and could be self sufficient. The Glazers are the worst thing to happen to Utd since the Munich Disaster!