@Maestro.Hu1k You don't want to be as hard as diamond. Then it'd be easily breakable with a hammer or even a decent sized rock. Hardness and toughness are usually opposing qualities, to an extent.
I love how you deliver on what you promise in a video. Show lock, explain lock, open lock. No unnecessary filler. It feels like you value my time. Thanks.
What's incredible is we know it's going to go that way every time, and we just keep coming back. "But it's a *different* lock this time." Hell yeah it is and my body is ready.
@@8thlvlMage it isnt the destination, it's the journey - confucious Yeah. The journey is the same as well, just however long LPL decides to take explaining the lock before shaming its creator
I am wondering if it would have been enough to make 1 cut in the bend. That way maybe one side could have been lifted up far enough to create some space to release the chain.
Some interesting factoids I thought might be interesting to share here: Boron Carbide is the material used in trauma plates, which are the armour inserts used in modern body armour. Its Vicker's hardness is 38 gigapascals. It's the third hardest known substance. Something interesting to know about "hard" objects. The harder something is, the less it can deform before it will fracture or shatter. Its yield strength and tensile strength are very close together. Glass is very hard, but it will shatter before it can deform very much. This is partially why body armour isn't just plates of boron carbide. Aramids(like kevlar) are not hard. They have a high tensile strength, but they will deform easily(you can deform kevlar with your hand, by folding it). Thus, when a rifle hits an armoured vest, the plate will absorb most of the shock and shatter, and the fabric vest will catch the fragments. In theory.
Good point about the yield and tensile strengths. This is shown with the boltcutter jaws not shattering but being deformed slightly while the shackles quickly snap. Many lock and chain manufacturors advertise their products as having a higher Vickers/Rockwell strength rating than the best bolt cutter jaws. But as we see here, that isn't an effective method of protection. The best you can ask for is that most thieves will be defeated by these locks and the ones with hydrolic cutters/angle grinders will be stuck for a long time in a vulnerable situation. A good balance between yield and tensile strengths would force a thief to work for a long time to succeed. Something they don't want to do.
@@iamdave84 If the Vickers/Rockwell rating is higher than the boltcutter jaws, neither will be cut by tht boltcutter. If not, then the chain is usually more accessable to the boltcutter. With two loops of chain and possibly a high schackle shoulder on the lock, it is difficult to get the boltcutter jaws fully in position. Therefore, take some time to find chain with a rating of 50+. Mining industry tire protection chains are a good source. See Pewag and RUD.
Ahh simple truths that have shaped technology through history. The japanese Blade is another such tale: contrary to popular misconception the quality of Japanese ore was probably no better, and quite a bit worse than a leafspring from an F150 Ford truck... What made the Japanese sword fantastic was the balance of "hardness" and "softness". Designing the two properties together to make for the ultimate combination of tensil strength and hardness.
The only lock I use to protect my property is a head lock. If that lock fails, it's on me. Haha JK. I just keep a gun handy at all times like a real Amurican. In all honesty tho, he does make me a bit paranoid lol I can't just sit at home like a hermit on all my belongings like a hen on an egg, gun on my lap, chugging coffee, and twitching at noises in the dark. I mean... I _could..._ but no. I'll just use locks like everyone else and hope my treasure is still there when I get home.
@@DanteYewToob "...I can't just sit at home like a hermit on all my belongings like a hen on an egg, gun on my lap, chugging coffee, watching FOX News and twitching at noises in the dark." There, I fixed it for you.
If you really mean to enter somewhere and have the time there's virtually nothing that can stop you... Im a fabricator and often people want to build the biggest window protections... Even if you put a 1 inch solid bar its not a challenge for a cordless angle grinder, or a torch. Even if your house doesn't hace any windows and has a perfect door, if someome really wants to get in breaching trough a wall ain't that hard lol
thats often why the point of security measures isn't thief-repellant, it's more-so how much of their time you can waste before they do, inevitably, find a way through thief-repellant is a baseball bat to the skull
I don't know why I keep watching his videos. I haven't used a lock or a traditional key in years. My car is remote keyless. And almost all homes in South Korea use RFID/keypad combinations. Yes, I'm sure he could just walk right in with a big magnet.
Those cutters put out 12 tons (24,000lbs) of force. I was apart of the marketing team that designed and first sold these cutters. They are actually hydraulic rebar cutters. We made these cutters, aswell as a smaller design the YQK-70 with its chassis used for wire crimping. The small version can put out 12,000lbs (6 tons) of force about half as much as the rebar cutter. You can get a mini one to put in your pocket, and change out the crimping end tool with the rebar cutter end and get a small concealable hydraulic mini bolt cutters. We eventually after several prototypes, sold the patents for the rebar cutter and wire crimps to the Chinese.
Great information! So 12 tons! I believe they would be capable of cutting up to 14mm molybdenum or boron alloys although I suspect it would have more trouble with proper heat treated case hardened shackles. I know manual 42 inch bolt cutters have a max rating at 16 tons and can cut anything up to 16mm, after that the screws and the jaws just bend
*Next up:* "So here we have Master Lock's new M-9000 armored model, let's see how it resists to an anti-tank shaped charge" _shoots rocket_ "OK so we did get in relatively quickly..."
@@noahway13 If you're referring to the pick Bosnian Bill and he made. A company got permission to sell them and sold out incredibly quickly, so...a lot of people have that lockpick now. (Edited cause of phone autocorrection)
I love how he doesn't express upset that the locking mechanism opened from the shock cause with that amount of destructive force the fact that it opened doesn't even matter, and that he still praises them for being ahead of the rest of the competition in this regard.
@@dragonslaya8851 hey that's actually a great topic; how much energy does it cost to open this lock and translate to the equavalent kinetic energy achievable by a sledge hammer for example.
Used these when my job trailer was cleaned out by thieves, they didn't mess with the locks, they went straight to the hasps and probably had little resistance cutting those. Most lessons are learned the hard way
"See back in military school, we used to open the master locks on our lockers with our minds. It's actually a really efficient technique, but I doubt this is any cause for concern for Masterlock, as I am the last known master of this forbidden art, and I'm not really in the game for any more disciples."
In defense of these locks, they are quite rust-proof. I've had 4 of them (all keyed the same) on wood gates around my property for the past 10 years and they look and work as well as the day I bought them. They open and close smoothly in any weather conditions, and I've never had to lubricate them. I would say they ended up being the right choice for my low security application.
@@davidhenderson3400 Too late. Fronious already makes a cordless stick welder that would burn through just about any lock shackle with some 6010 rod or even more with electrodes designed for cutting.
@@semajniffirg230 You can home make such a set up with just a couple of car batteries and jumper cables. People have been doing that for years. I am surprised such a set up is being used for locking cutting all over the place.
you must not have looked very hard, I see them for $70 on eBay he compared them in price to a 42" set of bolt cutters, those have never been that cheap either
Those aren't chips, they're gashes, or wide cuts. I paused right when he said that to see how many had commented about it. Really weird that he under played that to oversell the tool.
@@MuscarV2 But they're replaceable. The tool itself is perfectly fine and is effortless against the 2 smaller locks. He underplayed it because it's not a big deal with parts that only cost 20 dollars to get another pair.
Even broken blades can cut through multiple locks. But yeah they definitely need replacing now but hey its only about 20 bucks to replace those blades.
Nearly everything can be viewed from both a malicious and a benevolent perspective. The instructions that came with your toaster probably indicated that it shouldn't be submerged while plugged in due to the risk of electric shock. Sure, you could view that as instructions on how to kill someone. Or you could take it as a warning of how to protect yourself from the violent urges built into the toaster.
Nope. He's examining and testing various threats to common security systems. Cyber-security experts and mathematicians do this in their trade papers all the time, and nobody says they're training hackers. It's a necessary part of continuous security improvement. More generally, security systems that depend for their security on attackers not knowing how they work (aka "security through obscurity") are the least secure of all. Sure, they can be highly effective if nobody knows the secret, but it only takes one person to figure it out, and then everyone's security is *gone.* The best security systems are the ones that are effective even when everyone knows how to attack them. That's how modern cryptography works. Everyone and their mother can go and look at how they work but they're still pretty much impossible to break without compromising three system at one end or the other.
thing is though, when a lock is actually locking something, that something may impede being able to get such a large cutter to actually go around the lock as needed to do this.
Actually, I think they actually work better like this, because it causes a rupture by pressing in two points, like scissors. If they align perfectly, you would get compression force between them and surely bigger force to create a crack like that.
I would be worried about the very large lateral force on the blades. The way they are shaped, pushing them together when they are skewed like that is putting I guess maybe 15% of the force sideways. In that direction the blades have much less support and could easily shatter.
What different people have been wondering about lately. Normal people: I wonder what I should do on the weekend... LPL: *I wonder just how tough master lock’s boron carbide shackles are*
@Christopher Tysen Henriksen are you trying to say Harbor Frieght has ESP and can tell you are buying their product for evil intent? Why would Harbor Friegth deny anyone from purchasing their tools?
The thing is this, if you’ve properly sized the lock shackle and hasp there will not be enough space to get that style of bolt cutters around the shackle.
Right?! I bought a pair of crappy defiant locks for my trailer. Just for the heck of it i tried to pick it, got my tension tool in place, put my finger on it, and went to put the pick in and accidentally popped it open. Try again and similar results. I could pop this padlock in less than 2 seconds CONSISTENTLY. Before this I have picked successfully 2 out of 4 locks I tried (after maybe 30 mins.) Yeah, I returned that crap and bought a set of master locks. I successfully picked one after maybe 10 mins but cant seem to do it again. Even though these are shit locks and im not expecting some professional picker to open my trailer, if some idiot can get a screwdriver halfway in the lock and it pops open...NO THANKS. :P But to your point: by the time someone is jamming things in your lock, its likely they have alternative methods of entry in mind if the lock doesnt fall open in 10 seconds.
it would actually be possible to vastly improve the design by hiding wires inside the core. basically when the shackle is broken, the wires keep it together, while the damage the shackle did to the cutter makes cutting the wires difficult.
I love watching your video's. Thank you for all your time and effort you must have put in to these. I imagine you being just as good as a lawyer as a locksmith. Much LOVE from, CANADA niagara falls
I've given up locking anything. Front door open all night. Left my bike/laptop/phone in the street. Fuck it, what's the point. Cheers lock picking lawyer for freeing me from the shackles of my materialistic ways..
i'd be interested to see how they fair when attached to something like a garage door where it's unlikely you'll be able to get the bolt cutters across the shackle like this.
If a thief wants to steal something bad enough, he will get it no matter how well you secure it. The idea is to make the theft as difficult, unattractive, and risky as possible. This way the thief will be less likely to target you and go after an easier target instead.
The main point of my motorcycle chain and lock is just to force them to spend a lot of time making noise under lights. God help them if I'm home, I have a rifle and can see the bike from my window.
If those are really laminated locks I'd like to see what those bolt cutters could do between a pair of laminations to just pop the whole lock apart in the middle.
2 wrenches will STILL break the brass piece that the shackle hooks into inside the body of the lock. As long as they use brass internals nothing is secured.
Alas, another excellent informative video. From real personal experience all locks used for denying entry through remote unmonitored ranch gates are just a silly prop. Unless a protective cover shield is employed to protect shackle from any type of cutter ( old school or hydraulic.)
I'm glad I'd used the M15 to secure my cargo container that I shipped from the Virgin Islands. They have the bolt cutter imprints on them. And they still work just fine.
What carrier/shipping company did you use? I want to make sure I never have them ship any of my stuff, since they obviously don't take appropriate steps to protect their cargo.
These videos only encourage criminals to try to break into your store, shed, garage or whatever. These videos also assume that criminals are going to carry these tools around and try what this person is doing in high traffic areas.
Thankfully there are few applications where the shackles of these locks would be accessible enough for bulky hydraulic bolt cutters such as these. Entertaining "proof of concept" video, though :)
As a non native speaker I think LPL's English is near perfect. His pronunciation is very easy to understand for me. I enjoy his English as much as I enjoy learning about locks.
@@AriaFromMahabre I guess he means that himself (Motor Borg) being a non-native, he understands LPL really well because he doesn't have a strong accent and speaks really calmly and articulates really well.
Grammar and spelling is important, at my place several mechanic shops lost their DOT license because of grammar and spelling mistakes in their inspection reports.
This is what my ex boyfriend would use to steal bikes in Manhattan. They’re only $55 on Amazon. They had a hard time going through American lock brands padlocks, they shoot sparks and shrapnel everywhere and we couldn’t get through them. But it breaks harden steel u locks all day like butter. American Lock brands padlocks use very hard steel. This is why like every store front with metal security blinds uses them in nyc. Also an extremely common bike lock you see all over nyc is a ten inches hardened steel chain with an American Lock Brand padlock for this reason. If you want a good lock that’s what I’d recommend. You could get 12mm and 14mm chains but 10mm is good enough and still be able to actually carry it with you. Also if you use a u lock make sure it’s a mini u lock. The bigger ones her just stick a pipe in them and twist and it would break them or twist them out depending on the steel quality. Also get locking skewers (locking axles) so no one steal you wheels. Their only ten or fifteen bucks more than a cable and you’ll never have to carry or put on a cable every again. Very much worth the investment.
I think the steel in conventional 42" bolt cutters is a bit tougher than whatever is used on those hydraulic cutters, those (hydraulic) are primarily intended to cut rebar which is quite soft.
well it depends on how "cheap" they are. checking amazon they aren't cheap but i might not be looking in the right place. side note: 11mm shackle is pretty small TBH, most decent bike locks have 14+mm and even high security padlocks like abloy 362 has 15mm, Multi lock (discontinued) has 18mm I'd be interested to see how these fair against some of the kryptonite locks like the kryptonite evolution lock LPL already melted, or the Abus rock, he already destroyed with the ramset. or others, but those are already destroyed so i don't think he'd mind trying it out
How much cheaper are they compared to blades that are actually made to cut steel? Also we would have to know how much longer they last and if they will be cheaper in the long run. QUESTIONS - AAAHHH
On this channel I learn "all locks are mented to delay, not to stop", that was a nice work on that lock, is impossible make one to support that attack, you need a soft material to resist the cut by shear force but hard to resist the saws.
It’s interesting that the cutters are not built to prevent the ram from diverging from center. Although, apparently this cutter was still effective despite the misalignment of the blades.
I noticed that as well. If LPL had moved the padlock so its body rested against the cutter, the padlock would not have twisted so the blades would not have moved out of alignment. It did look as though it was 50:50 as to whether the cutter or the shackle would break first.
LockPickingLawyer I actually think that makes the cutter more effective. The ultra hard alloys in fancy lock shackles are brittle, and the offset jaws apply a shear force that no brittle alloy can withstand. That's why the shackles broke instead of getting cut.
Can you post a video of some Punk A$$ thief who after attempting to rob a place with a hydraulic bolt cutter, getting shot in the head by a "Not gonna take the BS anymore" homeowner. Might inspire them to get a REAL job.
Simulation should be done in real world , i.e. try the above test while the lock is shackled on a gate or a barn while holding that hydraulic cutter , putting it on floor is not a luxury a theif will have
I laugh every time i see an LPL video which involves Masterlocks in the vid! I just know LPL will be extra savage every time he encounters a Masterlock! 😂
I don't think LPL shows the same level of contempt for Masterlock products as does BosnianBill. Seems that LPL lets Masterlock failures speak for themselves.
So this lock seems pretty darn secure. Its not like criminals carry around portable hydraulic cutters. and even if they did, getting it lined up to cut through both sides of the lock would be extremely difficult.
If you have seen any other LPL vids you would be well aware that nearly every MasterLock lock can be lock picked by an amateur. So no, the locks arent that secure. Well, they are relatively secure against brute-force attacks.
Anything can be cut with a sufficiently large tool. An interesting aspect of the problem of cutting this lock is the need to cut both sides of the shackle. Because of the bulk of this tool, it might not be possible to reach both sides when it is in actual use, depending on the design of the mechanism to be locked.
We carry 42" bolt-cutters in the fire trucks, we call them the Master Key. Mainly used to open gates on rural properties - we cut the chain, not the lock.
@dava, you wouldnt believe, a motorcycle was stolen from my street, it was chained up under the guys bedroom window neither him nor the neighbours which are terraced houses in the UK, heard a thing, they used a cordless grinder in the night, doesnt seem possible, but they did, the chain was still there of course!
A real world example would be if you were to hold the cutter in both your hands. Resting the cutter on a surface would obviously give you a lot more force to push down the lever. Still though, those locks put up a fight.
Regarding the M15 wird breaking: As it was inside the boltcutter at an angel it touched the outer barrier (down right side in the video). It looks like there was so much pressure that it squeezed the ball mechanism on the inside, which seemed to be enough to push the piece out with the breaking force. Also (I think) due to the angle because of the already existing dents on the cutter, the break force was applied at the outer barrier of the bolt cutter.
Looks like Masterlock have pretty good locks for physical attacks, but bad for a more technical attack (like picking). Getting a cutter like this is likely easier/faster than learning to pick locks, so a more likely attack
I don't think we know enough to say things like "99% of thieves", because as far as I know, statistics like that simply aren't available. It's also easy, regardless of the reality, to form a picture of thieves as dumb and incompetent, because no matter what, most thieves who get _caught_ will be dumb and incompetent.
yeah, 99% is hyperbole, but it doesn't change that most thieves are going to just do a smash and grab because it's fast. they aren't afraid to be a little destructive to what they're stealing, either.
Well, if these are as easy to pick as the Chinese ones I have I think it's both faster and easier to just rake them open. Smaller, cheaper and lighter tools too.
My father always says. “Locks will never stop a determined thief, they are just a deterrent” “if they want it bad enough, they’ll get it”. Why I have a gun.
They definitely resist normal bolt cutters. A few years back I moved across country, and hired one of those moving companies to drop off a semi trailer at my house where I’d pack it, they transport to my new home in the opposite coast then I unload it. So I loaded the trailer and locked it up with one of these padlocks and they pick it up. A week later I get a call from the company and they ask “where’s the loading ramp; did you put it inside the trailer?” There is no loading ramp, I tell them. You guys picked it up already. Few days after that they drop off the trailer at my new house and they driver is mad - says he was looking for the loading ramp (after I told them it wasn’t in the trailer) so tried to cut the lock off to look inside. Broke his bolt cutters and just put a little nick in the shackle, which convinced him to give up. Made me laugh.
This video has been stuck in my head for 6 days because I had an encounter with a Boro shackle. Shackle was extremely hard, spent a few minutes realizing it had security pins, and decided to attack the case of the lock... It took less than one minute to slice from lock face to shackle with a stupid hacksaw through the garbage steel of a German lock I can't remember the name of. The guy told me he paid $80 for the lock and I told him no lock can stop everything. I honestly just couldn't believe how easily I cut the lock in half. I only started to cut because he had a hacksaw and I was curious. I was honestly just going to grab my battery op angle grinder after playing with a hacksaw but didn't need to oddly.
the easiest and quickest way, by far to open a padlock is to attack it at its weakest spot - namely it's locking pawl(s). Drive a drift (a tapered piece of metal) with a hammer into the space between the underside of the top of the shackle and the top of the lock. This will quickly raise the shackle, up and away from the body of the lock, shearing it's relative weak locking pawls in the process - and hence open it up. Works on all padlocks, no matter how heavy they are with the exception of a Discus type lock
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"Let's head out to the garage"
The death knell of any lock.
Unless it's a forgeddaboutit.
@@DinnerForkTongue or a brute
@@DinnerForkTongue Or a SAF
safety is number one priority
@@piotrnapora5810
SAFs do not die in the garage. They perish a hero's death fighting outdoors.
When Master Lock execs have nightmares, they hear that calm voice telling them to Have a Nice Day.
And as always, I will hunt your locks down to the ends of the earth.
This made me laugh more than it should have
2 is binding, little click out of 4 ...
*Master lock sweating nervously*
@@nwah816
> implying LPL bothers to SPP any Masterlocks
🤣
Legendary comment xD
Against most locks: let’s exploit this lock’s weakness.
Against Master Lock: let’s target this lock’s strength.
More like "Let's target literally everything about this lock."
@@LawrenceOakheart lol
@Maestro.Hu1k You don't want to be as hard as diamond. Then it'd be easily breakable with a hammer or even a decent sized rock. Hardness and toughness are usually opposing qualities, to an extent.
Master Lock: "we made our newest locks out of adamantium, noone ist gonna..."
LPL:"lets head into the Garage"
Master Lock *Starts sweating*
No please, not the garage!
*Pulls out Wakandan vibranium hydraulic bolt cutter*
Hehehe
Huhuhuhhhh
I love how you deliver on what you promise in a video. Show lock, explain lock, open lock. No unnecessary filler. It feels like you value my time. Thanks.
What's incredible is we know it's going to go that way every time, and we just keep coming back. "But it's a *different* lock this time." Hell yeah it is and my body is ready.
@@8thlvlMage it isnt the destination, it's the journey - confucious
Yeah. The journey is the same as well, just however long LPL decides to take explaining the lock before shaming its creator
He’s a lawyer. If anyone knows the value of time, it’s lawyers.
Right! But he's a lawyer so you just got billed for 7 hours.
1000th like
"Cutting carbide with a pair of toblerones".
lol
Pretty easy if it is carbide by Master Lock.
Knowing MasterLock, I wouldn't be surprised if they could be cut with actual toblerones.
Sounds like a rap lyric
So did you feel the Boron carbide was tougher to cut through than what is used in regular shackles?
One advantage of the hex shackles is that it takes 2 cuts, whereas round shackles would only require one, and then it could be spun out of the way..
Thanks, was wondering about this.
wait so why can the shackle turn but not when loked
I am wondering if it would have been enough to make 1 cut in the bend. That way maybe one side could have been lifted up far enough to create some space to release the chain.
@@MH-ks1ob Good question. Imma curious, too.
@@MH-ks1ob probably not otherwise LPL would have done so. He's always for the most effective way in.
Some interesting factoids I thought might be interesting to share here:
Boron Carbide is the material used in trauma plates, which are the armour inserts used in modern body armour. Its Vicker's hardness is 38 gigapascals. It's the third hardest known substance.
Something interesting to know about "hard" objects. The harder something is, the less it can deform before it will fracture or shatter. Its yield strength and tensile strength are very close together. Glass is very hard, but it will shatter before it can deform very much.
This is partially why body armour isn't just plates of boron carbide. Aramids(like kevlar) are not hard. They have a high tensile strength, but they will deform easily(you can deform kevlar with your hand, by folding it). Thus, when a rifle hits an armoured vest, the plate will absorb most of the shock and shatter, and the fabric vest will catch the fragments. In theory.
Good point about the yield and tensile strengths. This is shown with the boltcutter jaws not shattering but being deformed slightly while the shackles quickly snap. Many lock and chain manufacturors advertise their products as having a higher Vickers/Rockwell strength rating than the best bolt cutter jaws. But as we see here, that isn't an effective method of protection. The best you can ask for is that most thieves will be defeated by these locks and the ones with hydrolic cutters/angle grinders will be stuck for a long time in a vulnerable situation. A good balance between yield and tensile strengths would force a thief to work for a long time to succeed. Something they don't want to do.
Where these locks are used with a similarly chunky chain, is the chain likely to be easier to cut than the lock shackle?
@@iamdave84 If the Vickers/Rockwell rating is higher than the boltcutter jaws, neither will be cut by tht boltcutter. If not, then the chain is usually more accessable to the boltcutter. With two loops of chain and possibly a high schackle shoulder on the lock, it is difficult to get the boltcutter jaws fully in position. Therefore, take some time to find chain with a rating of 50+. Mining industry tire protection chains are a good source. See Pewag and RUD.
Well said.
Ahh simple truths that have shaped technology through history. The japanese Blade is another such tale: contrary to popular misconception the quality of Japanese ore was probably no better, and quite a bit worse than a leafspring from an F150 Ford truck... What made the Japanese sword fantastic was the balance of "hardness" and "softness". Designing the two properties together to make for the ultimate combination of tensil strength and hardness.
This guy literally ruins my hope in every lock
ChinaLake100 Well put.
as the saying goes "locks keep honest people honest"
The only lock I use to protect my property is a head lock. If that lock fails, it's on me.
Haha JK. I just keep a gun handy at all times like a real Amurican.
In all honesty tho, he does make me a bit paranoid lol I can't just sit at home like a hermit on all my belongings like a hen on an egg, gun on my lap, chugging coffee, and twitching at noises in the dark. I mean... I _could..._ but no. I'll just use locks like everyone else and hope my treasure is still there when I get home.
Lmao I swear 😭 I cant decide what to get now lmao
@@DanteYewToob "...I can't just sit at home like a hermit on all my belongings like a hen on an egg, gun on my lap, chugging coffee, watching FOX News and twitching at noises in the dark."
There, I fixed it for you.
What I've learned from this channel is that if someone really wants your shit, they're gonna get it no matter how you try to protect it.
If you really mean to enter somewhere and have the time there's virtually nothing that can stop you... Im a fabricator and often people want to build the biggest window protections... Even if you put a 1 inch solid bar its not a challenge for a cordless angle grinder, or a torch. Even if your house doesn't hace any windows and has a perfect door, if someome really wants to get in breaching trough a wall ain't that hard lol
thats often why the point of security measures isn't thief-repellant, it's more-so how much of their time you can waste before they do, inevitably, find a way through
thief-repellant is a baseball bat to the skull
“A lock will only stop an honest thief.” That’s been a saying in my family for generations aha.
unless ypu sit there woth a shotgun
Pretty much. The point is to make your stuff more annoying to get to than someone else's stuff.
I don't know why I keep watching his videos. I haven't used a lock or a traditional key in years. My car is remote keyless. And almost all homes in South Korea use RFID/keypad combinations. Yes, I'm sure he could just walk right in with a big magnet.
Those cutters put out 12 tons (24,000lbs) of force.
I was apart of the marketing team that designed and first sold these cutters.
They are actually hydraulic rebar cutters.
We made these cutters, aswell as a smaller design the YQK-70 with its chassis used for wire crimping. The small version can put out 12,000lbs (6 tons) of force about half as much as the rebar cutter. You can get a mini one to put in your pocket, and change out the crimping end tool with the rebar cutter end and get a small concealable hydraulic mini bolt cutters.
We eventually after several prototypes, sold the patents for the rebar cutter and wire crimps to the Chinese.
Great information! So 12 tons! I believe they would be capable of cutting up to 14mm molybdenum or boron alloys although I suspect it would have more trouble with proper heat treated case hardened shackles. I know manual 42 inch bolt cutters have a max rating at 16 tons and can cut anything up to 16mm, after that the screws and the jaws just bend
Well, seeing a marketing person and not an engineer designed the product it's no surprise it performed as it did.
Anyone else feel like they needed safety glasses while watching this?
I think that I got a piece in my eye.
A face shield did fine for me
Yeah, I was wincing!
Safety is number 1 priority.
🧔👓
Holy shit yes it did
*Next up:*
"So here we have Master Lock's new M-9000 armored model, let's see how it resists to an anti-tank shaped charge"
_shoots rocket_ "OK so we did get in relatively quickly..."
Such a lock would have a 3-pin cylinder with no security pins and a plastic core. All the armor to compensate for the artrochious cylinder.
"Let's head out to the garage"
That's what she said
... a SPECIALLY MADE shaped charge that only me and one other person has access to...
@@noahway13 If you're referring to the pick Bosnian Bill and he made. A company got permission to sell them and sold out incredibly quickly, so...a lot of people have that lockpick now. (Edited cause of phone autocorrection)
I love how he doesn't express upset that the locking mechanism opened from the shock cause with that amount of destructive force the fact that it opened doesn't even matter, and that he still praises them for being ahead of the rest of the competition in this regard.
but if that works would a hammer also work
@@dragonslaya8851 hey that's actually a great topic; how much energy does it cost to open this lock and translate to the equavalent kinetic energy achievable by a sledge hammer for example.
I mean the shackle means nothing if you can rake it open and there's a correlation with master lock, the tougher it looks the easier it is to pick
Used these when my job trailer was cleaned out by thieves, they didn't mess with the locks, they went straight to the hasps and probably had little resistance cutting those. Most lessons are learned the hard way
4:30 Did LPL just pick a masterlock with a pair of boltcutters?
Yes
Picked is not the right term
Rumor has it lpl once picked a lock with a single blade of grass.
@@adamv6753 He picked a lock with a twig in episode 782
"See back in military school, we used to open the master locks on our lockers with our minds. It's actually a really efficient technique, but I doubt this is any cause for concern for Masterlock, as I am the last known master of this forbidden art, and I'm not really in the game for any more disciples."
Hope you get a kickback, you just sold me a hydraulic bolt cutter, lol.
I use that tool with different dies to crimp terminals on big gage wires. Those things are no joke and pretty cheap to buy.
raCECar for big gauge wires lmao
needs an amazon affiliate link lol
They sell them as "hydraulic rebar cutters." Although, you can buy a "hydraulic crimper" and use cutting does also
i report face book frogs as hate speech
In defense of these locks, they are quite rust-proof. I've had 4 of them (all keyed the same) on wood gates around my property for the past 10 years and they look and work as well as the day I bought them. They open and close smoothly in any weather conditions, and I've never had to lubricate them. I would say they ended up being the right choice for my low security application.
His videos are just so to the point, informative and he enunciates his words so well
There's no defence now that the battery angle grinder has been invented.
Battery powered plasma cutters will be a thing before yo know. Then no lock will be safe.
@@davidhenderson3400 No, not the lack!
@@notwoke9187 Typo edited. That what I get for typing while half asleep.
@@davidhenderson3400 Too late. Fronious already makes a cordless stick welder that would burn through just about any lock shackle with some 6010 rod or even more with electrodes designed for cutting.
@@semajniffirg230 You can home make such a set up with just a couple of car batteries and jumper cables. People have been doing that for years. I am surprised such a set up is being used for locking cutting all over the place.
This guy would be a monster in the elder scrolls games
What was that? Must be my imagination.
LPL has real problems with many guards...
This is the lock picking dragonborn and what I have for you today is a lvl 100 padlock... xD
I probably pay him to level up my lockpicking skill
@@HomicidalTh0r This is the Lock Picking Dragonborn and today we're gooing to open a "Needs a Key" lock
Did anybody else squint their eyes when he did the second cuts?
Master lock: hacksaws cant break us
LPL: haha hydraulics go brrrrrrrrr
Lol yes michael
bruh that’s not how you do the meme
Take-away from this video:
1 - Put a pair of these bolt-cutters in your "Zombie-Apocalypse-Backpack"
2 - Wear eye-protection
N. Jacobs And maybe some body armour.
They are already in my bug out bag
Safety squints? Engaged
That must be a play on the massive tool ave.
I had already engaged my safety squints on this side! - Corntact!
Ya gotta focus, you fack!
Tits and pickles
I felt like I should have been wearing safety glasses just WATCHING this video
Master Lock: "New and improved Vibranium shackle!"
LPL: "Hold my beer..."
5:00 LPL: " This really isn't something I fault Master Lock" -....well that's a first
is there a lock with an exposed shackle that these CAN NOT cut?
Thats why he does not fault master lock for it, that and he calls these cheap but they cost 114 dollars on amazon, he must be rich.
@@MacMashPotato or he might just be aware of the price range, and you might not
you must not have looked very hard, I see them for $70 on eBay
he compared them in price to a 42" set of bolt cutters, those have never been that cheap either
Abus granit extreme 59 u lock. Made specifically to resist hydraulic cutters
@@MacMashPotato i believe he said the jaws were cheap and the cutter cost less then the cost of a high quality 42" set of bolt cutters.
“And we do have a tiny little chip”
*shows two large chips in the metal*
LOL. THE BLADES ARE FUCKED.
Those aren't chips, they're gashes, or wide cuts. I paused right when he said that to see how many had commented about it. Really weird that he under played that to oversell the tool.
@@MuscarV2 But they're replaceable. The tool itself is perfectly fine and is effortless against the 2 smaller locks.
He underplayed it because it's not a big deal with parts that only cost 20 dollars to get another pair.
Even broken blades can cut through multiple locks. But yeah they definitely need replacing now but hey its only about 20 bucks to replace those blades.
Masterlock CEO must've banged his wife or something
"This volt cutters are easily concealable under a coat"
Is a lawyer low key teaching us how to commit crimes?
Nearly everything can be viewed from both a malicious and a benevolent perspective. The instructions that came with your toaster probably indicated that it shouldn't be submerged while plugged in due to the risk of electric shock. Sure, you could view that as instructions on how to kill someone. Or you could take it as a warning of how to protect yourself from the violent urges built into the toaster.
That's basically this whole channel lol
Volt cutters? Hydraulic resistor?
I would have never thought of hiding my intent from the cops or victim. Who knew?!
Nope. He's examining and testing various threats to common security systems. Cyber-security experts and mathematicians do this in their trade papers all the time, and nobody says they're training hackers. It's a necessary part of continuous security improvement.
More generally, security systems that depend for their security on attackers not knowing how they work (aka "security through obscurity") are the least secure of all. Sure, they can be highly effective if nobody knows the secret, but it only takes one person to figure it out, and then everyone's security is *gone.*
The best security systems are the ones that are effective even when everyone knows how to attack them. That's how modern cryptography works. Everyone and their mother can go and look at how they work but they're still pretty much impossible to break without compromising three system at one end or the other.
thing is though, when a lock is actually locking something, that something may impede being able to get such a large cutter to actually go around the lock as needed to do this.
There are locks with shackle guards.
This test highlighted some shortcomings of the hydraulic cutter more than the locks. Those blades need proper guides so they can't go skew.
Actually, I think they actually work better like this, because it causes a rupture by pressing in two points, like scissors. If they align perfectly, you would get compression force between them and surely bigger force to create a crack like that.
Looks like they cut fine the way they are!
and those "tiny" chips in the blades were not tiny at all.
@@Corksy I think you are wrong.
With the skew it is like trying to penetrate an armour at an angle which is more difficult.
I would be worried about the very large lateral force on the blades. The way they are shaped, pushing them together when they are skewed like that is putting I guess maybe 15% of the force sideways. In that direction the blades have much less support and could easily shatter.
What different people have been wondering about lately.
Normal people: I wonder what I should do on the weekend...
LPL: *I wonder just how tough master lock’s boron carbide shackles are*
I don’t know what I want to see more LPL’s tool collection, picking collection or firearm collection! Keep the great content coming!
Criminals: where would one find these easy to hide and super effective hydraulic bolt cutters?
EBay
Harbor Freight has them for $55.99
@Christopher Tysen Henriksen are you trying to say Harbor Frieght has ESP and can tell you are buying their product for evil intent? Why would Harbor Friegth deny anyone from purchasing their tools?
@@ExcenDammit they dont
bruh all they have to do is make the locks out of bedrock
ohyeahyeah but how do they cut the bedrock into a lock?? More bedrock??
@@user-lq1dk6gr3p nah they just load in the word with shackle shaped bedrock in the options
theguywiththecoolprofilepicture or they can install a mod to cut bedrock then remove the mod when we’re done
@@mrdiamond64 that would also work yes
@@mrdiamond64 But then I could just use CheatEngine and switch the memory value to 0 for "unlocked".
I get the impression that a very young LPL got his sparkly new Schwinn stolen with a Master lock trying to keep it secure
HA yes that makes sense :)
He became a lawyer to prosecute the thieves, and a lockpicker to call out the lockmakers. Superheroes have had worse origin stories!
As much as he hates them you'd think a Master lock killed his dog. In a drive-by.
OtakuUnitedStudio
LPL: He shot my dog
John Wick: I get it
The thing is this, if you’ve properly sized the lock shackle and hasp there will not be enough space to get that style of bolt cutters around the shackle.
See it's not necessary to cut the lock. Just attack the hasp and you're in.
The only issue I could see with this test is the lock would likely be in a position where you wouldn’t be able to fit this hydraulic cutter onto it.
That cutter has enough clearance for the lock on my shed doors.
@@TwentyItaliansLS Or someone could just use a crowbar and pry the door off its hinges!
This video is not a showcase of a certain attack, but about testing the strength of the shackle itself.
a 3d printed (CNC milled) hydrawlic cutter can always be made bigger
Keep reminding myself of what my father always said “ son locks are made to keep honest people honest”
Right?! I bought a pair of crappy defiant locks for my trailer. Just for the heck of it i tried to pick it, got my tension tool in place, put my finger on it, and went to put the pick in and accidentally popped it open. Try again and similar results. I could pop this padlock in less than 2 seconds CONSISTENTLY. Before this I have picked successfully 2 out of 4 locks I tried (after maybe 30 mins.)
Yeah, I returned that crap and bought a set of master locks. I successfully picked one after maybe 10 mins but cant seem to do it again. Even though these are shit locks and im not expecting some professional picker to open my trailer, if some idiot can get a screwdriver halfway in the lock and it pops open...NO THANKS. :P But to your point: by the time someone is jamming things in your lock, its likely they have alternative methods of entry in mind if the lock doesnt fall open in 10 seconds.
This just isn't fair. Mechanical advantage cheat codes.
Criminals don't play fair. And when you're trying to protect what's most important to you, you shouldn't either.
@@awkwardcultism I have my 45-70 425 grain for criminals....I never play fair against them.
In the words of Captain Jack Sparrow, "Pirate!"
it would actually be possible to vastly improve the design by hiding wires inside the core.
basically when the shackle is broken, the wires keep it together, while the damage the shackle did to the cutter makes cutting the wires difficult.
dave wenzel ur cool kid
I love watching your video's. Thank you for all your time and effort you must have put in to these. I imagine you being just as good as a lawyer as a locksmith. Much LOVE from, CANADA niagara falls
I sit for months learning how to pick locks open....5 min with cutters and im a god....never bring a knife to a gun fight....great video
Now I’m gonna stare at people with jackets and see if they have hydraulic cutters
I’m looking at her uh hydraulic cutters. Nothing else
instead of a gun?
so you can barrow one for your self ? =D
*500am*
*RUclips:* “Wanna see some locks getting compromised?”
*Me:* “Yes.” 😐
I read this comment at exactly 5:00 am
What's 500am?
Who writes time like that lol
oh boy i love me some 500am
aka 5:00
I've given up locking anything. Front door open all night. Left my bike/laptop/phone in the street. Fuck it, what's the point. Cheers lock picking lawyer for freeing me from the shackles of my materialistic ways..
Did not know I needed a hydraulic cutter. Thanks for the recommendation.
"Nobody will buy Master locks"
Except LPL, how else does he get to make his videos.
and people new to locksport
They are for the bdsm community. Hence the name and ease of access.
He steals them, duh
Sadly there are plenty of alternatives which are just as bad as masterlocks.
Lol this thing is basically just a fucking bottle jack with some cutting jaws attached. I love it.
Seriously I need this tool
@@RAYTHEONGAMING Caveira ain't you supposed to be roaming somewhere?
@@serbiastronk2050 yes but I need these cutters first.
i'd be interested to see how they fair when attached to something like a garage door where it's unlikely you'll be able to get the bolt cutters across the shackle like this.
Time for the wave rake and see if 3 is binding
We could just break both at once
When a suspicious person is wearing a trench coat and starts reaching... and pulls out hydraulic boltcutters...
i fail to see what is suspicious here, i do this all the time. i just like holding my hydraulic boltcutters when it's cold out!
Thank You for this AND all the time, $$ on your end spent, quality imaging, right to the point content and the clear concise explanation.
If a thief wants to steal something bad enough, he will get it no matter how well you secure it. The idea is to make the theft as difficult, unattractive, and risky as possible. This way the thief will be less likely to target you and go after an easier target instead.
The main point of my motorcycle chain and lock is just to force them to spend a lot of time making noise under lights. God help them if I'm home, I have a rifle and can see the bike from my window.
Never seen someone breaking locks with two pieces of Toblerone before...
I bet all of the lock manufactures love the fact you shred their products in front of millions of viewers. Master lock must love you. Good video.
If those are really laminated locks I'd like to see what those bolt cutters could do between a pair of laminations to just pop the whole lock apart in the middle.
May be quicker too...
2 wrenches will STILL break the brass piece that the shackle hooks into inside the body of the lock. As long as they use brass internals nothing is secured.
l wilton it will easily break the rivets, but it’s not a reliable way to open the lock.
some of us just want to see destruction
@@lockpickinglawyer have you looked at hand hydraulic flange spreader
LPL: I just installed new blades for this test.
Master Lock: ...
to be fair, I don't think any padlock could stand up to hydraulic bolt cutters
4b50lut3 Z3r0 what if the shackle is made of bedrock...
@@absolutez3r019 that's why high end locks have shackle gaurds. So you can't access the shackle when it's locked.
@@grugg3108 that's logical
@@absolutez3r019 check his video on fuggedaboutit. Destroyed a blade and his roof when the blade failef
A refreshing video with no wasted banter from the presenter. Now, what padlock is unbeatable?
Alas, another excellent informative video.
From real personal experience all locks used for denying entry through remote unmonitored ranch gates are just a silly prop.
Unless a protective cover shield is employed to protect shackle from any type of cutter ( old school or hydraulic.)
I'm glad I'd used the M15 to secure my cargo container that I shipped from the Virgin Islands. They have the bolt cutter imprints on them. And they still work just fine.
What carrier/shipping company did you use? I want to make sure I never have them ship any of my stuff, since they obviously don't take appropriate steps to protect their cargo.
@@Kineth1 VI Cargo.
Thanks!
Are you sure it wasn’t done by customs?
@@Engineer9736 customs would just grind it off, both equally destructive
You gotta give credit to Masterlock for these shackles. They definitely are very tough!
THR33STEP credit for the shackles but not for the lock mechanism
My life's ambition is to be as awesome as you. Seriously, I love you and everything you represent. I want to have your children.
f u
They're very hard apparently, but you can see that they're not very tough at all. A tough material doesn't fail by explosively fracturing like that.
These videos only encourage criminals to try to break into your store, shed, garage or whatever. These videos also assume that criminals are going to carry these tools around and try what this person is doing in high traffic areas.
This is the LockCuttingLawyer.
Thankfully there are few applications where the shackles of these locks would be accessible enough for bulky hydraulic bolt cutters such as these. Entertaining "proof of concept" video, though :)
2:44 Finally, someone who properly uses adverbs: "relatively easily"
As a non native speaker I think LPL's English is near perfect. His pronunciation is very easy to understand for me. I enjoy his English as much as I enjoy learning about locks.
@@MotorBorg Be has a relaxing voice :)
@@MotorBorg Wait. Do you mean that LPL isn't a native english speaker ?
@@AriaFromMahabre I guess he means that himself (Motor Borg) being a non-native, he understands LPL really well because he doesn't have a strong accent and speaks really calmly and articulates really well.
Grammar and spelling is important, at my place several mechanic shops lost their DOT license because of grammar and spelling mistakes in their inspection reports.
ALL padlocks can be opened using the right tool. We just need to deter people from trying.
and how would you suggest that be done?
@@AlphaSquadZero obviously an automated turret system.
@@9000888sora No, you need an automated artillery base
@@AlphaSquadZero I suggest we create a law against breaking and entering. That should solve it.
@@jaib666 *automated turret artillery*
Love Master locks,the company I work for has used these locks for over40 years on over 450 pieces of equipment and never seen one fail
This is what my ex boyfriend would use to steal bikes in Manhattan. They’re only $55 on Amazon. They had a hard time going through American lock brands padlocks, they shoot sparks and shrapnel everywhere and we couldn’t get through them. But it breaks harden steel u locks all day like butter. American Lock brands padlocks use very hard steel. This is why like every store front with metal security blinds uses them in nyc. Also an extremely common bike lock you see all over nyc is a ten inches hardened steel chain with an American Lock Brand padlock for this reason. If you want a good lock that’s what I’d recommend. You could get 12mm and 14mm chains but 10mm is good enough and still be able to actually carry it with you. Also if you use a u lock make sure it’s a mini u lock. The bigger ones her just stick a pipe in them and twist and it would break them or twist them out depending on the steel quality. Also get locking skewers (locking axles) so no one steal you wheels. Their only ten or fifteen bucks more than a cable and you’ll never have to carry or put on a cable every again. Very much worth the investment.
Let’s pause this for a second, that 11mm shackle had me actually turning my head and slightly backing up cause I knew that thing would be violent 😂
I think the steel in conventional 42" bolt cutters is a bit tougher than whatever is used on those hydraulic cutters, those (hydraulic) are primarily intended to cut rebar which is quite soft.
well sure but having cheaper but replaceable blades might be better. because even good blades will get hurt over time.
well it depends on how "cheap" they are. checking amazon they aren't cheap but i might not be looking in the right place.
side note: 11mm shackle is pretty small TBH, most decent bike locks have 14+mm and even high security padlocks like abloy 362 has 15mm, Multi lock (discontinued) has 18mm
I'd be interested to see how these fair against some of the kryptonite locks like the kryptonite evolution lock LPL already melted, or the Abus rock, he already destroyed with the ramset. or others, but those are already destroyed so i don't think he'd mind trying it out
How much cheaper are they compared to blades that are actually made to cut steel?
Also we would have to know how much longer they last and if they will be cheaper in the long run.
QUESTIONS - AAAHHH
It wouldn’t be hard to make tool steel or even Tungsten blades C.
"It wouldn’t be hard ..." If you are a skilled machinist & have access to all of the necessary tools. But for everyone else, too difficult.
On this channel I learn "all locks are mented to delay, not to stop", that was a nice work on that lock, is impossible make one to support that attack, you need a soft material to resist the cut by shear force but hard to resist the saws.
That video was actually a decent compliment to master lock. He didn't say inexcusable once :)
It’s interesting that the cutters are not built to prevent the ram from diverging from center. Although, apparently this cutter was still effective despite the misalignment of the blades.
it's probably made for cutting steel rebar which is much softer.
I noticed that as well. If LPL had moved the padlock so its body rested against the cutter, the padlock would not have twisted so the blades would not have moved out of alignment. It did look as though it was 50:50 as to whether the cutter or the shackle would break first.
Noah Spurrier The new blades were machined off center... it’s the first set I’ve run into like that. 🤷🏻♂️
LockPickingLawyer I actually think that makes the cutter more effective. The ultra hard alloys in fancy lock shackles are brittle, and the offset jaws apply a shear force that no brittle alloy can withstand. That's why the shackles broke instead of getting cut.
That alignment is deliberate.
Best I can tell, that is a Steel Dragon Tools® 22A Handheld Hydraulic Rebar Cutter
And it costs around $120
endocondor
endocondor "Blades break easy and hydralic leaks" that's a quote from amazon.ca ...
@@jbbolts who cares if I can steal something might higher value?
well at least you will know what to expect from i
Can you post a video of some Punk A$$ thief who after attempting to rob a place with a hydraulic bolt cutter, getting shot in the head by a "Not gonna take the BS anymore" homeowner.
Might inspire them to get a REAL job.
@@deanlaclair265 before or after taking that shot in the head?
This video is three and a half years old, and Today I Learned that "hydraulic bolt cutters" _exist._
Have 2 of these on my shed after a burglery. Good job the handle and hinges are also electrified
Simulation should be done in real world , i.e. try the above test while the lock is shackled on a gate or a barn while holding that hydraulic cutter , putting it on floor is not a luxury a theif will have
That was my first thought... can you even engage the blades if the lock is on something?
MrKronen75 If the wrought iron gate have a padlock hanging on the inside, it will change the scenario
MrKronen75 true but it’s a worst case scenario deal innit
where the lock is positioned is largely for filming purposes
Insignificant. Once you have it fastened it will support its weight.
I laugh every time i see an LPL video which involves Masterlocks in the vid!
I just know LPL will be extra savage every time he encounters a Masterlock! 😂
So true 😂
I don't think LPL shows the same level of contempt for Masterlock products as does BosnianBill. Seems that LPL lets Masterlock failures speak for themselves.
Mmmyess ohhh damn 🔥 yeah bosnianbill is much more savage than lpl when it comes to roasting masterlocks 😂
But Master gives them SO MUCH ammo!
He wasn't at all savage in this and he even admitted that these shackles are some of the better ones on the market.
So this lock seems pretty darn secure. Its not like criminals carry around portable hydraulic cutters. and even if they did, getting it lined up to cut through both sides of the lock would be extremely difficult.
If you have seen any other LPL vids you would be well aware that nearly every MasterLock lock can be lock picked by an amateur. So no, the locks arent that secure. Well, they are relatively secure against brute-force attacks.
Anything can be cut with a sufficiently large tool. An interesting aspect of the problem of cutting this lock is the need to cut both sides of the shackle. Because of the bulk of this tool, it might not be possible to reach both sides when it is in actual use, depending on the design of the mechanism to be locked.
Lock companies: how dare he! I'll sue his ass until the videos are down!
Lpl: lol imma lawyer
Lock companies: Maybe we could talk...
No not really.. these large companies have a whole legal team
Lesson of the day:
*_SOUPER THICC SHAKKL_*
We carry 42" bolt-cutters in the fire trucks, we call them the Master Key. Mainly used to open gates on rural properties - we cut the chain, not the lock.
Logically the smarter thing to do. I would have gone for the lock!
When LPL needs a workout he just bolt-cuts MasterLock's for reps
the cordless angle grinder it would seem to be the biggest threat, no-one has any idea how to deal with it
pretty much.. the only downside is the noise and potential fire hazard.
Uh Sargent and greenleaf put ceramic plates in their locks to stop grinder attacks
@blackrose, does it stop them, and what about the shackles?
@dava, you wouldnt believe, a motorcycle was stolen from my street, it was chained up under the guys bedroom window neither him nor the neighbours which are terraced houses in the UK, heard a thing, they used a cordless grinder in the night, doesnt seem possible, but they did, the chain was still there of course!
Interesting. Link to the Sargent and greenleaf product?
A real world example would be if you were to hold the cutter in both your hands. Resting the cutter on a surface would obviously give you a lot more force to push down the lever. Still though, those locks put up a fight.
Its hydraulic. Meaning you dont need to use much force to open them.
It'd be intersting to see that cutter having a go at the lock body. I imagine it could get inbetween those laminated sheets to tear the body apart.
Regarding the M15 wird breaking: As it was inside the boltcutter at an angel it touched the outer barrier (down right side in the video). It looks like there was so much pressure that it squeezed the ball mechanism on the inside, which seemed to be enough to push the piece out with the breaking force. Also (I think) due to the angle because of the already existing dents on the cutter, the break force was applied at the outer barrier of the bolt cutter.
Looks like Masterlock have pretty good locks for physical attacks, but bad for a more technical attack (like picking).
Getting a cutter like this is likely easier/faster than learning to pick locks, so a more likely attack
basically, yeah. 99% of thieves are not going to pick the lock. they are going to attack the lock physically or just go around it.
I don't think we know enough to say things like "99% of thieves", because as far as I know, statistics like that simply aren't available. It's also easy, regardless of the reality, to form a picture of thieves as dumb and incompetent, because no matter what, most thieves who get _caught_ will be dumb and incompetent.
yeah, 99% is hyperbole, but it doesn't change that most thieves are going to just do a smash and grab because it's fast. they aren't afraid to be a little destructive to what they're stealing, either.
Well, if these are as easy to pick as the Chinese ones I have I think it's both faster and easier to just rake them open. Smaller, cheaper and lighter tools too.
if you're trying to be fast, you aren't going to take the time to fail. they'll use the method they know will work 100% of the time on the first try.
My father always says. “Locks will never stop a determined thief, they are just a deterrent” “if they want it bad enough, they’ll get it”. Why I have a gun.
Dude,just ask your father to stop saying it.
Thank god LPL hasn’t sold out and has sponsor shout outs in his videos
They definitely resist normal bolt cutters. A few years back I moved across country, and hired one of those moving companies to drop off a semi trailer at my house where I’d pack it, they transport to my new home in the opposite coast then I unload it. So I loaded the trailer and locked it up with one of these padlocks and they pick it up. A week later I get a call from the company and they ask “where’s the loading ramp; did you put it inside the trailer?” There is no loading ramp, I tell them. You guys picked it up already. Few days after that they drop off the trailer at my new house and they driver is mad - says he was looking for the loading ramp (after I told them it wasn’t in the trailer) so tried to cut the lock off to look inside. Broke his bolt cutters and just put a little nick in the shackle, which convinced him to give up. Made me laugh.
I’m going to have to get one of those hydraulic bolt cutters.
Any plans to tear apart the master lock that unlocked itself? That would be interesting to see the failure point
Jeff L, I haven’t heard of this lock, which model are you referring to?
Every master lock ever made... But seriously, the third one broke open when cut. Shackle released
probably just the force of it dislodged the innards
So would the wrench method work on these locks?
I think the sudden acceleration moved the lock pin and released the shackle bit.
Could this be exploited to open a lock?
If someone wants your stuff, forget a lock to keep it safe. I've learned so much from watching these instructionals. Thx.
This video has been stuck in my head for 6 days because I had an encounter with a Boro shackle. Shackle was extremely hard, spent a few minutes realizing it had security pins, and decided to attack the case of the lock... It took less than one minute to slice from lock face to shackle with a stupid hacksaw through the garbage steel of a German lock I can't remember the name of. The guy told me he paid $80 for the lock and I told him no lock can stop everything. I honestly just couldn't believe how easily I cut the lock in half. I only started to cut because he had a hacksaw and I was curious. I was honestly just going to grab my battery op angle grinder after playing with a hacksaw but didn't need to oddly.
RIP boron carbide you were once a gift to locks everywhere!
He's so good he litterally picked the lock without even trying
the easiest and quickest way, by far to open a padlock is to attack it at its weakest spot - namely it's locking pawl(s).
Drive a drift (a tapered piece of metal) with a hammer into the space between the underside of the top of the shackle and the top of the lock. This will quickly raise the shackle, up and away from the body of the lock, shearing it's relative weak locking pawls in the process - and hence open it up. Works on all padlocks, no matter how heavy they are with the exception of a Discus type lock
Make the lock shackle out of a hollow stainless steel tube, with an explosive filler.