Rick Roderick on Nietzsche as Artist [full length]
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- This video is 7th in the 8-part series, Nietzsche and the Postmodern Condition (1991).
Lecture notes:
I. Nietzsche in comparison to other great thinkers
A. Nietzsche has been praised as a forerunner of Psychoanalysis
B. For Kierkegaard, the search for an authentic self is doomed to fail.
1. He says that the self is a despairing relation.
2. Nietzsche puts a positive twist on this view saying that the self is a "risky" relation to itself.
II. An uninterpretable text of Nietzsche's is "Thus Spoke Zarathustra".
A. This contains a parody of the Bible. There is a "sermon on the mount" given for cows.
B. The text is meant to enact the gay science.
C. It is self-indulgent and especially appealing to adolescents, as is much of Nietzsche's work.
D. You are meant to have a good time with the text and to be challenged by it to try to remember your adolescence.
E. Mass media has eliminated the necessity for religion.
F. Intoxication has always been an important aspect of culture.
G. Nihilism is not a strong enough name for the threat faced by human subjectivity and lived experience in the terrain of our culture.
III. War is the last indication of reality, but now even that may not be true.
A. The gulf war can be considered a virtual non-reality.
B. Our culture has as excess of the visual.
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"You are in deep, deep... doodoo"
This is the best summary of my life.
Definitely read some Kafka
@@nlothervoicessc4286 I Polish, there was Gombrowicz...
Rick, I was 4 years old when you did this lecture. It's 2018 and I hear your message loud & clear. Thanks for seeding the infinite spiral of information with true insights worthy of contemplation. You're a rock star in this dystopian landscape!
How’s the dystopia working out for you now?
A relic from before the great hyper real pandemic. It's getting weirder every day.
@@bryanutility9609I don't know? It feels apt to me? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"What is good is light, what is divine moves on tender feet!" -1st principle of my aesthetics, -Nietzsche
This is a brilliant lecture, especially watching it in 2022 - third year of pandemic with Boris Johnson, Novak Djokovic, Kazakhstan, Pope and Metaverse!
Rick, you did succeed-- here it is, being viewed just after the greatest post modern spectacle to date, the 2016 US presidential election.
succytash whatcha think about 2020?
Joan Tron yeah.. 2020. Rick’s nightmare fully realized
JJ KK your volunteerism for the gulag is noted
@JJ KK damn its almost psychedelic to see a genuine Trump supporter on Rick Roderick video. Just a true post-modern insanity.
@JJ KK Buddy how did that shake out?
0:29 *Art as project of self-creation* “When I say Nietzsche as artist I have in mind this strong project of self-creation which is to make of one’s own life a work of art. Very difficult thing to sculpt oneself, it’s much easier to sculpt in stone than to sculpt in that _invisible, mysterious_ material of the self.”
40:45 *postmodern dissatisfaction* “Perhaps some of that dissatisfaction is rooted in the desire to feel an experience again-to live a real experience again. Something that _really_ occurred, that wasn’t already packaged, explained, prepackaged, agreed upon then given to you as your opinion without a possibility of doing anything but assenting. And you may go, _’Oh no, they give us choice!._ Well we all know what the array is and how infinite it is. It’s like choosing green beans at the grocery store. How many kinds do they have? Say you want canned green beans. I’m a throw back, I like canned green beans I don’t like the ones that you put in the little plastic pouches, I want the canned ones-and I get a _choice._ There are like twenty kinds, I’ve tried a lot of them. I open them and they’re all just really bad green beans-they’re green and they’re beans and they’re this long and they’ve got the same amount of water. And I’ve chosen and that’s true I’ve chosen and _I want that freedom to choose and I’d fight and die for that freedom to choose the green bean of my choice!_ But what I don’t have is the choice to select that autonomous radical project that Nietzsche put at the center of his writing and at the center of his attempt at self-creation-that’s the choice I don’t have. I feel sometimes as though I’m plugged into a giant computer that will take every command I give it except the one that I want the most-the command that the damn machine blow itself up.”
12 step plans... wait? Peterson?!
triforce of wisdom Exactly what I was thinking
Amen! Had the exact same thought
"Without the Arts the world would be a mistake!" -Nietzsche
Rene Trujillo without Music
Isn't he talking about music specifically
Nietzsche, via Arthur Schopenhauer.
I pressed the like button as Rick was talking about the McLaughlin Group (that I had to look up first) and started laughing. I just say oh brave new world and have done since the 1990s.
I'm 71 and just listened to an audio version of Zarathustra, it's mesmerising and funny. Of course there's no interpretation of the parables so I'm glad I listened to this lecture to clarify why the men he encounters constitute higher men. In other words I didn't understand it.
I think Baudrillard was right to an extent but it was the 6 weeks of bombing and the subsequent sanctioning and the imposing of Western business, throughout the 1990s, rather than the events of 2003, that finished Iraq.
They sent B52s from the Fairford Airbase in Britain that is leased to the American airforce. We went to protest there as we have done against a lot of wars and the kerosene emitted on take off was lethal. By 2003 they had new planes and we had a camp that they policed with forces from all over the UK. Once someone was flying a Palestinian flag and the police came, took it but thought it was the Iraqi Barth Party and national flag.
I talk about Iraq cos I believe to this day people in America know nothing about it.
The middle section aroun 27:00 where he talks about the prospects of a mini-series Zarathustra allowing for swaths of viewers to walk around dressed like Zarathustra reminds of the effects of V For Vendetta when the film came out in 2005, and now the Joker in 2019. Incredible accuracy in all aspects of these points, but this one I feel illustrates so clearly the affective nature of the hyperpaced, technological interregnum we are in now.
has anonymous proven to be what many young people wanted it to be over more than 15 years? did the last joker left deeper imprint into popular culture than most jokers before? is this technological interregnum real, or is it something that is emerging from collective denial?
Good lecture thanks for sharing.
5:37 Jordan Peterson’s 12-steps of doo doo
Dear Rick,
you did enter this spiral of information... you are alive... and teaching us enlightening us and planting the life seeds of rebellion in our hearts.... one day there will be fire... a true real fire... a fire that burns, purifies and creates a huge immaculate space for new creation... creation of a new man
"𝑰𝒏 𝒈𝒊𝒓𝒖𝒎 𝒊𝒎𝒖𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒄𝒕𝒆 𝒆𝒕 𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒔𝒖𝒎𝒊𝒎𝒖𝒓 𝒊𝒈𝒏𝒊. We turn in a circle of the night and we are consumed by the fire"
-Guy Debord, 1978
The mass culture's current obsession w/ Jordan Peterson and his '12 Rules for Life' got me to thinking about this lecture again...
Tim Dukes - Yes, he represents some strange spectacle himself, some sort of quasi-intellectual self help opportunism mixed with step-dad moralizing. He’s the living embodiment of Diet Coke breath. His abject perversion of Nietzsche’s philosophy is what angers me the most about him, though. And no matter how much I explain to his limp minded acolytes how objectively wrong his interpretations of Nietzsche are, they simply won’t listen, bc as long as Peterson’s vapid generalizations about the world reaffirms their self perceived victimhood and prejudices they couldn’t care less.
David Nagy his blind followers.... that scares me. How easily people can be swayed
@@jose123001
He says that postmodernism rejects truth because there are an infinite number of interpretations of any text - false.
He says that postmodernism rejects truth because everything is just power games - false.
He says that postmodernists are just Marxists in disguise - false.
He says that atheists are really theists because anybody who didn't really believe in god would be committing murder and rape - false.
He says that the radical left rejects Western values - false.
Pretty much everything he says is wrong to be honest!
@@jose123001
But you asked what he disagrees with regarding philosophy, not free speech.
I also think that the idea that radicals are against free speech is a bit of a straw man. Most people would consider me a radical leftist and yet I never opposed free speech in my life, and neither do any of the radical intellectuals that I know.
It is typically the authoritarians on the left and right who oppose free speech, whether they are radically left/right or not.
@@jose123001
I don't really understand the question because you could be a radical authoritarian, or you could be a radical libertarian who outright rejects all forms of authority.
My point is that you can be radical on the left/right spectrum but this says absolutely nothing as to how authoritarian you are.
Noam Chomsky for example is a radical leftist but also a libertarian who questions the legitimacy of all power structures, so to conflate the radical left with authoritarianism is a mistake.
This picture might make it easier to see what I mean:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass#/media/File:Political_Compass_yellow_LibRight_v2.png
12 Rules for Life is #1 international best seller.
This sure is a great mini-series
Great lecture!
37:47 “This saturated information network is pornographic.”
"you cant make it disappear but it can make you disappear", wow
3:25 “The original project of psychoanalysis according to Freud was that _the Id or the ‘It’_ (the unconscious/unreflected parts of ourselves) _become reflected parts._ Become the I, the ego.”
"Reality itself is so twisted that it's (acid) a waste of time! Why would anyone take acid in this culture, to twist your mind... You don't need acid any more, it's just silly!"
His final comment in this video is apropos: "Fear death and realize that...." Sums it up nicely.
I always saw those Nat Geo docs with marines in Afghanistan with Go Pro cams stuck to their helmets as something going wrong with mass culture, it scares me to see that there is an audience that "enjoys" that vicariously.
TheLastMan Why did you need to put “enjoy” in quotes? People actually can enjoy violence and the sight of violence. It is even discussed in the Genealogy of morals, as an aspect of “master morality”. Enjoyment is a fact regardless of Nietzsche, though. Christians also enjoyed public executions
destroyed Jordan Peterson 27 years ago
Rio Rinanda Ismar how?
Jesse Gordon Jordan disregards Nietzsche’s account of truth and values. He believes that our values are biologically determined in many respects, while Nietzsche believed that we must burn off such conceptions as illegitimate attempts to limit our power, or our ability to interpret and reinterpret the world to our advantage.
@@timhorton2486 Gigerenzer 2007. Chapter on morals.
Peterson is a dweeb and insufferable hypocrite especially in comparison to rick. Embarrassing.
What is that word of gramsci’s that the Prof is referring to?
Pretty sure its Interregnum. But it is not a new word, at least I highy doubt Gramsci invented it.
This is so prescient.
Doesn’t know what the snake and eagle mean? Aesop maybe? Subtle hint towards Apollo and Dionysus?
Michael Fassbender would be good in the Zarathustra Netflix series.
Hey if acid fuck's you up in 2024, 1991 must've been ONE HELL of a year?!
6:40 *psychoanalysis in reverse* _postmodernism does not have a deferring relation to despair at all, just a bland banal smile at the end of a 10-step program_ “my god you can’t be cured of what you are!” [...]
“A culture that picks its meaning up in that way is beneath contempt”
4:27 sounds like Rick would have liked Lacanian psychoanalysis..
schizo-analaysis
Tom Jayman what are you saying?
@@nightoftheworld guattari made some adjustments to lacan, think it would be preferable to go with guattari
Tom Jayman please expand
brilliant. i dont think theres much doubt that war is virtual, like a video game. just ask prince harry
@McPrfctday West Texan.
Television destroys all other vision.
I'll bet Rick would now agree that we have reached full on postmodernism. We are no longer moving in the direction of postmodernism. We have arrived folks.
john miller liquid modernity
Check out Hypermodernity by Lipovetsky
Luka jung “We have always been modern.” -Zizek
I love Rick Roderick and he is a brilliant lecturer and educator, but anyone who thinks LSD is ever superfluous has no true capacity to amuse themselves or to engage with the true nature of
the world.
Billy Joel has a song called, 2000 years. Does it help?
Blessed are the sleepy they soon drop off. I am reading Aczel Mystery of Alephs. He describes there Descartes, how he liked to sleep till middle of the day. What did kill Rene you ask? Queen of Sweden that wanted lectures by him, at 5 a.m. in January, in a library without heating. Poor sleepy head was dropped off in February by this obsessed early morning bird ;) We the sleepy one will be driven to extinction in that way, and it is a perfect irony )
The TAO means the way. The way is a good perspective answer on this problem. It accounts for things in dynamic motion, even you. The TAO is the middle path between all extremes, for to go too far is as bad as to fall too short, in the action chosen from Judgement. It is a compass to help you find an integrated answer.
You may be raised thinking the Glass is full. Then you have to live with it half full and half empty. How you bare the empty is a sign of character.
....Unless he meant that we don't need LSD *NOW* because those DMT cartridges are 1000% better?
Rick Roderick was the most interesting professor in the entire Teaching Co/ Great Courses catalog, and they removed him from it and now the catalog is filled with bland DIY courses, what a shame.
How unfortunate. Since I found these lectures on youtube I've been listening to them again and again
@@sanfordsanford295 It's the curse of political correctness. The " "great courses" has one course on Nietzsche, it's very wishy washy, its Nietzsche with a happy face.
In my experience managers, academics never like to employ people more intelligent than they are....shows them up.
@@user-nb4ex5zk3w I guess so....but about the Great courses, it's become a site to find courses about learning hobbies, not about learning exciting insights.
The Mind is collection of integrated experiences. And you can say you wear many hates of skill. But it is a museum that never ceases to collect and interpret. It is in Flux and dynamic. Like a beach from winter to winter it evolves but is the same beach. Your friends know you as a self. Data, from ST NG, said, "My neural network has grown accustom to your sensory input patterns". If the Mind is a side effect of the fact that you're alive, then, it copes from moment to moment with conditions.
Welcome to the Machine.
The tree pillars of ZEN. Faith and doubt and courage.
Obviously Rick was never introduced to FitBit.
In Mark Twain's, The Mysterious Stranger, A man is cured of his unhappiness by being made MAD.
Crack has a certain rationality to it...lol
Becoming
Robert Galletta
Thanks for flooding the comments with utter nonsense...
Man Must Endure, in his coming as in his going hence, Ripeness is all. Markus Aurelius has something to say as a stoic. But is isn't Happy. it's just Practical.
In the Movie, Arthur, Arthur goes to an office to see his father. He complains, nobody here smiles, Why doesn't anyone smile?" Hobson replies, "They smile at lunchtime." At least you can get a job in a "Money" Culture that you might enjoy leisure time for yourself. BUT, a neuvo riche slob who wins the lottery or trust fund baby, may be a tacky soul with money. What is character, well, what is it NOT, that might be a place to start.
Are you an immortal soul, or, a temporary biological machine? Does it matter which world view you take if you care for people? Or for what living has to offer? What you think is different from what you then choose to do. And self is often measured by choices. We are all a collection of smart and dumb. What is the self beyond the skill to navigate the market place? An effective awareness of good quality and poor quality things to choose from? Judgment?
pretty lame postmodern analysis in the middle here
9:13 *madness* “There are far worse things than being mad. And one of them is to be in a culture that is mad and to consider yourself sane-that’s worse. To be involved in a _consensual hallucination of normalcy,_ is much worse than being _mad._ But maybe I’d like to valorize madness in this way.”