F1 TACKLES THE CORKSCREW! Could F1 Handle Episode 3: Laguna SECA

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

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  • @donlucio03
    @donlucio03 4 года назад +64

    Aidan saying wee trough the corkscrew was my highlight of the video

    • @CostanTheOne
      @CostanTheOne 4 года назад +5

      ʷᵉᵉᵉ
      -𝓪𝓲𝓭𝓪𝓷 𝓶𝓲𝓵𝔀𝓪𝓻𝓭

  • @lurkio804
    @lurkio804 4 года назад +52

    Laguna Seca has an absolutely tiny paddock, when MotoGP used to go there they couldn't bring any of the support classes.

    • @chrisclifford4109
      @chrisclifford4109 3 года назад +6

      That’s because the support series at the time were 250cc and 125cc two strokes which are illegal in California during the summer.

    • @MattyC62185
      @MattyC62185 3 года назад +4

      @@chrisclifford4109 yes two stroke motorcycles are illegal in commie fornia

    • @colebaker___
      @colebaker___ 2 года назад

      @@chrisclifford4109 that’s a really stupid law😂

    • @skraegorn7317
      @skraegorn7317 2 года назад

      That might be one of the biggest things holding it back from being a grade 1 circuit

    • @CaliRed1865
      @CaliRed1865 Год назад

      The track chose to not bring in the lower classes, because DORNA wanted absurd amounts of money for them, and they're simply not a draw. They could bring in AMA to suppliment the MotoGP bikes for a fraction of the cost.

  • @markmatthews7202
    @markmatthews7202 4 года назад +3

    I've always loved Laguna Seca. I'm sad that MotoGP doesn't visit anymore but WSBK does and they are always thrilling races, not to mention it's awesome seeing SuperBikes go through the Corkscrew complex.

  • @supersnake1924
    @supersnake1924 4 года назад +40

    As cool as it would be to see F1 go round my home track, yeah it just isn't feasible. Cars are too fast, track too narrow, noise limits too strict

    • @josephwaldner7752
      @josephwaldner7752 4 года назад

      Are F1 louder than indycar

    • @supersnake1924
      @supersnake1924 4 года назад +5

      @@josephwaldner7752 apparently F1 is 6 dB louder than indycar. Either way, an F1 race would take up some of the very limited no limit days that Seca has

    • @forgonenapster8888
      @forgonenapster8888 4 года назад +12

      God more than ever before I disagree with limiting the sound from tracks. If you don't like the fact you chose to move right next to a track, that's your own fault.
      It's like the people who move next to an airport and complain about the planes. Silly.

    • @CodyGT46
      @CodyGT46 4 года назад +8

      @@supersnake1924 You would figure that the people who moved into homes around there would understand that there would be NOISE, hell all week, there’s a racetrack, public gun range, and police gun range there, there WILL be noise!
      Hell I live in one of the towns near Laguna Seca, and we have/used to have before COVID, auto cross racing at our airport and I never hear anyone complaining about the noises from that, even when they have the special events or folks bringing in legit race cars and can hear them at my house well into town.
      I would love to see every type of racing I could at that track, love the old Trans Am racing they have there, IMSA, even the NASCAR historics they had back in the day. It’s a sight to behold to see a gigantic 70s and 80s full bodied NASCAR barreling through the corkscrew and the hairpin and not losing it. Even bring the stadium trucks in too for a show!

    • @OoVECTORMANoO
      @OoVECTORMANoO 4 года назад +3

      I was watching a video about lost race tracks in America and the amount that went under primarily due to local residents complaining was ridiculous.... You moved next to a race track and your complaining about the noise???? WTF!!! Anyone moving into these types of areas should have to sign a disclaimer accepting that they have no right to complain about noise from the local track. And thats the problem, people buy these properties cheap due to noise from being situated so close to an actively used race track but they wont move out or not buy the damne thing in the first place, oh no because these are the type of people that expects the world to bend to their whims and instead opt to try and get these race tracks closed down. If it was upto me id say sorry the race track was here first either deal with it or move the fuck away.

  • @nsx_montana
    @nsx_montana 4 года назад +28

    You could say if they run too low, they are gonna be SCREWED..

  • @NATM462
    @NATM462 4 года назад +41

    I'd love it, but I can imagine someone getting launched over the corkscrew due to dodgy defending.

  • @sennadesillva
    @sennadesillva 4 года назад +1

    Aidan, I live in northern California and back in 2006 Toyota sponsored the historic races held at Laguna Seca. They brought out their current F1 car to do laps with Ricardo Zonta as the driver. I was lucky enough to be there that day annnnd to be in the tiny garage when the car was started up. He actually only beat the track record by like 1.5 sec, I was kinda was expecting more of a gap. I have a video of the start up somewhere on an old hard drive and a pic with Zonta. Theres plenty of pics and videos of that online.

  • @mr.doctorprofessor9953
    @mr.doctorprofessor9953 4 года назад +30

    This would be so fun in F1 but I’d be worried the FIA would ruin the track in order to get it to meet the criteria for F1. Amazing video regardless cheers!

    • @jamesbraun9842
      @jamesbraun9842 4 года назад +1

      They tried to get F1 but they lost out to the Detroit street circuit.

    • @b212hp
      @b212hp 4 года назад

      They already did in order to attract MotoGP and, hopefully, F1 in 1988. It used to be 9 corners. You were flat out from the exit of turn 9 to turn 4 just past the bridge. You had to be pretty brave not to lift at 3!

    • @squidcaps4308
      @squidcaps4308 4 года назад +1

      It would be very, very boring. No overtaking would happen.

    • @neilcam
      @neilcam 2 года назад

      Yeh, sure. F1 would be monstrously, mind-destroyingly boring with ZERO overtaking possible at Laguna Seca, the world's most over-rated track. It's tiny, it's way too short, it's way too narrow, and it doesn't even remotely have the necessary facilities. It used to be my local track, and I enjoyed going there, but F1? Nah, never in a month of Sundays.

  • @2ToneWalt
    @2ToneWalt 4 года назад +3

    Can you imagine two of those cars going for the corkscrew together, oh boy!

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd 4 года назад +2

    Hell yeah, this series! This is, I must admit, where I get the most pleasure from SIM racing. Every time you've used it to describe or explain a race or event, or test like this I really love it :D

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy 4 года назад +6

    Even though it no longer exists - I'd like to see Sudschleife or if they have it Caesar's Palace.

  • @GreenHornet553
    @GreenHornet553 4 года назад +4

    Awesome video. Laguna Seca never struck me as a track that would work for F1 due to its small size, although I would intrigued by them going to Sonoma as I think it could produce good lap times and entertaining on track action. Speaking of tracks with possibly good on track action, could you do a hot lap around the long version of Watkins Glen with the inner loop chicane and boot section of the track?

  • @driftprojectsd2321
    @driftprojectsd2321 4 года назад +1

    You are not "some average [driver]" I know this because you told us your racing driver excuses before you went out. Only the pros do that... On a serious note great vid, it was short and sweet this time. I'm glad you're back to making more videos.

  • @Will._Power
    @Will._Power 4 года назад +8

    Just been watching IMSA...I reckon Road Atlanta would be a very nice track to see F1 on...wont happen of course but it would be interesting.

    • @varyagace
      @varyagace 4 года назад +1

      I would love to see F1 race on Road America... But I can't trust them not to let Tilke ruin the track or something, so I guess we'd rather not. Indycar races there already and it's pretty fun.

    • @gavindavis541
      @gavindavis541 3 года назад +1

      @@varyagace Road America and Road Atlanta are two very different tracks. Road America is very fast and long straits will Road Atlanta is incredibly flowing. Indycar only races at Road America While IMSA has it's finally at Road Atlanta

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 4 года назад

    I actually asked myself about a month ago if this track could be run by those cars.
    Two observations. Both involve the corkscrew.
    First the physiological effects of that negative g drop would have on the driver. Specifically _red out_ to the eyes.
    Second observation is what would happen if a wreck occurred there. Depending on the gap between racers and how long it would take to get a yellow signal that the driver actually sees and reacts for that could be an expensive and dangerous kink in the track.
    Good video!

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault 3 года назад

    There were F1 to Laguna Seca rumors way back in the early '90s when the current layout was still new (everything between the pit straight and the lefthander that leads up the hill was added in 1988-89 to attract what we now know as MotoGP). If it didn't happen then, it's not going to happen now, even with F1's renewed interest in the US market. The wheelbases of today's cars alone basically rule it out...they'd all be high-centered on the corkscrew on lap 1.

  • @jimcurt99
    @jimcurt99 3 года назад

    LOVE this track- 1st time I tried it in Gran Turismo I HATED it- it's not easy- but I grew to love it- because its NOT EASY

  • @berserkfuryyy6798
    @berserkfuryyy6798 4 года назад +2

    He's back ladies and gentlemen.

  • @Romain_69420
    @Romain_69420 4 года назад +11

    Ah finally a New episode
    Can you try Macau next ?

    • @jamesbraun9842
      @jamesbraun9842 4 года назад

      They have other people do that

    • @Romain_69420
      @Romain_69420 4 года назад

      @@jamesbraun9842 wdym ?

    • @jamesbraun9842
      @jamesbraun9842 4 года назад

      @@Romain_69420 There are other videos of F1 at Macau

    • @Romain_69420
      @Romain_69420 4 года назад

      @@jamesbraun9842 huh I'll try and find one

  • @crossphaded
    @crossphaded 4 года назад +1

    Having driven this track many times in my E46 M3, seeing a car lap here sub-1:00 is mind blowing. Just shows how incredibly phenomenal modern F1 cars are. Having said that-- I would love to see F1 at Laguna Seca despite such a short track. Monterey Car Week is a petrolhead spectacle. Folks come in groves to watch Endurance races, Indycar, and formerly MotoGP at this famed track. Why not F1?

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 4 года назад

      Sadly, it doesn't come up to modern F1 standards. Not so much the track itself, it's the tiny paddock. WSB still goes there (well, under normal circumstances) and even they can't take support races. I used to watch Cart racing there (Indy is on a pay-a-ton-for channel, Cart was on Eurosport which comes with the basic but still expensive satellite TV I have to have - crap reception for terrestrial broadcasting) and I remember some absolutely classic moves, especially at the corkscrew! And Rossi in Moto GP pulling a cracker on Stoner... It was like those guys were the only ones in the race but it was amazing!
      As someone else has said, local ordinances are v strict and it just wouldn't be feasible to take F1 there :(

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 4 года назад

    1:38 Get them in there early Aidan. ;) Glad you're back mate, sorry things were shit for a while there.

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 4 года назад

    My favourite race moment of all time was noriyuki naga nose rolling his bike down the Cork screw to overtake other riders to win the race

  • @MichaelWilson-fg9df
    @MichaelWilson-fg9df 4 года назад

    corkscrew always gets a like. listening to the cars and bikes cresting 7 at a buck fifty with idle engine sounds... something special.
    I prefer the elevation change on these "natural" tracks (laguna seca, sears point, watkins glen) more than the flat ones (sebring, monza). having said that, I still prefer city tracks (long beach, adelaide) to the over-cooked noodles like CotA.

  • @timlinerud7721
    @timlinerud7721 4 года назад

    Having driven many hundreds of laps around Laguna, that is pretty realistic. The one thing that needs to be updated, is that the pagoda is no longer there. But there is nothing like not seeing the road when going through the cork screw. It's all timing.

  • @3DWorldMan
    @3DWorldMan 4 года назад +1

    F1 was considering Laguna Seca in 1991 so this is very interesting

  • @ianmarshall3633
    @ianmarshall3633 3 года назад

    Always great to see you in the simulator. But one thing I have noticed about your driving is that your down shifts are rough and inconsistent. Even over several laps of the same track.
    This is an area where If you can smooth out the down shift and break just a little earlier I think you should get consecutive sub 1 minute times.
    Even with the basic set up.

  • @olliesutton1804
    @olliesutton1804 4 года назад +1

    The shade thrown at ben 😂😂

  • @Mrmayhembsc
    @Mrmayhembsc 4 года назад

    love Laguna SECA

  • @TrailDave
    @TrailDave 4 года назад

    love Laguna Seca

  • @chrisk_nfl4120
    @chrisk_nfl4120 4 года назад

    This is one of those tracks F1/Liberty/FIA would never really consider, even if it was the last race track in the USA. It's a shame because is such a unique circuit but it's too dangerous and would require huge amounts of investment to make it work with F1. I also feel any investment would come with a small extension to the track to make it a little longer
    Loving the series btw, would love to see you do a video on Long Beach or Watkins Glen (the latter seems to me to be very similar to Spa)

  • @geojoubert731
    @geojoubert731 4 года назад

    Going back to even Gran Turismo 4, i used to hate this track it was always really difficult

  • @fazzinaw11
    @fazzinaw11 4 года назад +1

    How about a throwback to Watkins Glen?

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 29 дней назад

    Would love to see F1 cars go thru Corkscrew. One of the most famous chicanes in the world.
    But it ain't a Grade 1 track and it is too short.

  • @jonnyscott8910
    @jonnyscott8910 4 года назад

    As much as it would be epic to current F1 cars to round some the older style circuits the cars are far too but it would be epic to see ,p.s keep up the great work Aidan

  • @johnkluge3421
    @johnkluge3421 4 года назад

    When you consider the downforce and cornering speeds of current F1 cars, I really wonder if they could do the corkscrew without the driver's passing out or throwing up. It would be something to see for sure

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 4 года назад

    Nice to see the Haas - it's not a bad looking car in the Corkscrew.

  • @Exponaut_R-01
    @Exponaut_R-01 4 года назад

    My first thought on that would be the cars going through the corkscrew...

  • @readytogame83
    @readytogame83 4 года назад +1

    What about doing circuit de sarthe the old set up or even the new one

  • @EhEhEhEINSTEIN
    @EhEhEhEINSTEIN 4 года назад +1

    My heart would love to see it but my head says there's no fucking way lol

  • @BIGBLOCK5022006
    @BIGBLOCK5022006 4 года назад

    Aidan, what about Road America, Portland International, Virginia International, Sears Point/Sonoma, or Belle Isle?

  • @matthewgroff433
    @matthewgroff433 4 года назад

    Indy cars race there and IMSA races there, But they are a little bit slower than a F1 car. However I could see F1 racing there sometime in the future. It sure would be interesting seeing the F1 cars all cram into turn 1 and then into the Corkscrew! LMAO

  • @interstate366
    @interstate366 4 года назад

    I’d like to see Virginia International Raceway at some point. It’s long enough, just doesn’t have the facilities for F1. The paddock is a literal barn.

  • @bobsmudger3979
    @bobsmudger3979 4 года назад

    I read the title of this as Fiat Laguna Seca. Time to visit an optician!

  • @ethanwhisman5459
    @ethanwhisman5459 4 года назад

    There's one more thing you have to throw in this race track if you had a formula one race here it would definitely have more than at least it would have multiple pit stops in it because this Laguna seca is such a high wear track that it's at least a two-stop race for an f one
    Going to have strategies that make tire wear become the biggest thing that maybe decides the winner if we ever had a race there

  • @jeffreytam7684
    @jeffreytam7684 4 года назад

    The Corkscrew would probably destroy half the field’s floors.
    Super cool in a sim, but for a multitude of good reasons infeasible

  • @enzozanon4
    @enzozanon4 4 года назад +4

    Last time I was this early Williams was still competitive

  • @robindowse4473
    @robindowse4473 2 года назад

    Leguna Seca and Bathurst are my two favourite tracks that F1 don't use.

  • @rogerj412
    @rogerj412 4 года назад

    Leguna Seca would be cool but the track would have to be updated, a lot. The corkscrew would probably have to be removed and that's the iconic part of Leguna Seca. Also I doubt very much the track facilities are rated for F1 and updating them would cost hundreds of millions of dollars and it's just not feasible.

  • @colegrigsby9401
    @colegrigsby9401 4 года назад +2

    What if F1 drives daytona sports car circuit just for the heck of it.

  • @robertjones9200
    @robertjones9200 4 года назад

    Can you do The Bristol track please, would be great to see F1 cars on a short track

  • @matzemunz2827
    @matzemunz2827 4 года назад +1

    Honest question, would modern F1 cars even last a full race without braking in half in the corkscrew?

  • @SLVRFOX88
    @SLVRFOX88 3 года назад

    F1 client program has run there I believe Marc gene has a sub 1 min record there with a 2000 era F1 car

  • @SpectralUmbreon197
    @SpectralUmbreon197 4 года назад

    Laguna Seca was modified specifically for the intention of F1 use back in the day, and now the circuit doesn't even meet FIA requirements.

  • @realnutteruk1
    @realnutteruk1 4 года назад

    Ok so, just how good is the sim's physics engine? Does it really model tyre grip at each wheel? Or does it just average and generalise?

  • @martiniboy1811
    @martiniboy1811 4 года назад

    Race around Talladega or Martinsville. Those would be cool to see, impossible in real life

  • @bat-man502
    @bat-man502 4 года назад +5

    F1 cars at limerock

    • @mr.doctorprofessor9953
      @mr.doctorprofessor9953 4 года назад +2

      Imagine how short that lap would be

    • @gibbon.enthusiast
      @gibbon.enthusiast 4 года назад +2

      @@mr.doctorprofessor9953 pole position - 2 seconds

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 4 года назад +1

      They would only have to change tires on one side of the car like in IMSA.

  • @adammodan8030
    @adammodan8030 4 года назад +1

    I do this in AC a lot. Lots of fun but the corkscrew IRL could cause some issues. Also which sim lab rig is he using?

  • @Flarecobra
    @Flarecobra 4 года назад +3

    Wonder how they'd handle modern Long Beach....
    Or just for shits and giggles... Charlotte Roval. :P

  • @The_Random_Aussie
    @The_Random_Aussie 4 года назад

    How about Phillip Island or Eastern Creek?

  • @jamesl8640
    @jamesl8640 4 года назад +2

    Would like to see circuit de la sarthe.

  • @MatthiaGryffine
    @MatthiaGryffine 4 года назад

    I recently acquired Assetto Corsa, but when I play it, the cars are really unstable. I can barely go in a straight line without the car getting loose.

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 4 года назад

    I'd like too see this on Rijeka.

  • @romanhendrickson8385
    @romanhendrickson8385 4 года назад

    While i would love to see it... i dont think the track could survive it... mainly the corkscrew... i would think the down force and mech grip would make the cars bottom out so hard it would tear the surface to bits thru there

  • @scottpeters371
    @scottpeters371 4 года назад

    F1 would bounce it due to there only being 1 good straight for DRS and all the others have a bend or are too short. It's a fun, tight course that would require a lot of driver skill to make passes

  • @galou
    @galou 4 года назад +6

    This FOV was so little it gave me anxiety

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  4 года назад +2

      29 degrees. The calculator never lies. 😂

  • @jamesbraun9842
    @jamesbraun9842 4 года назад

    Can you do F1 at Belle Isle Detroit

  • @juancete0107
    @juancete0107 4 года назад

    Could you try Potrero de los Funes? Its a nice track

  • @xero256
    @xero256 4 года назад

    I have heard a rumor that the current owner of Laguna Seca is trying to put it out of business or something. It's a shame.
    I do like the series. It's interesting to see what could be.

  • @spngrm
    @spngrm 4 года назад

    Aside from all of its obvious impracticalities (too short, poor facilities, poor safety, difficult to overtake) it'd be at least a fun, challenging circuit for the drivers. I'd love to see Hamilton or Verstappen push to the absolute limit to set a pole lap.

  • @minibus9
    @minibus9 4 года назад

    cool video

  • @ldjemixon
    @ldjemixon 4 года назад

    Laguna Seca was altered in the early 80s to get F1

  • @readytogame83
    @readytogame83 4 года назад

    Or even Macau that'll be a good one

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 29 дней назад

    Corkscrew infamous?

  • @gtv6chuck
    @gtv6chuck 4 года назад

    I've seen vintage f1 cars at Laguna, but modern F1 cars are large compared to them. The track is a bit too narrow and short for F1 cars I think.

  • @ImInLoveWithBulla
    @ImInLoveWithBulla 4 года назад

    Gorgeous track, but it’s too tight for most race cars. It’s best suited for motorcycles.

  • @paulrushtie6826
    @paulrushtie6826 4 года назад

    Probably been asked before but when you pick your missus up do you get home on a hot lap cause you know the route or at a pedestrian speed cause well its your missus n she really should be driving?? haha

  • @chase8572
    @chase8572 3 года назад

    What game is that?

  • @kieranmcmahon1745
    @kieranmcmahon1745 4 года назад

    45 seconds after video uploaded ..... No views, no comments, 7 likes.
    Good job, RUclips

    • @NoOne-ef7yu
      @NoOne-ef7yu 4 года назад

      Eventually, it will all add up... It's just a temporary inconsistency.

  • @chris9650
    @chris9650 3 года назад

    Rossi might disagree about not being able to cut the corkscrew lol.

  • @JohnSmithShields
    @JohnSmithShields 4 года назад +2

    I know Storytime had recent issues. Is there anyway you can do it with just a blank screen, or a variation of the Pressing Issues image?
    Roberto Moreno is waiting on his big moment.
    Thanks in advance.

  • @jakdawscreech
    @jakdawscreech 4 года назад

    I wonder if Aragon could work? Could make for a better Spanish GP

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp 4 года назад +2

    Can you show the whole car when you do these videos. I would like to get a better idea of where the wheels should in comparison to the curbs. You just can't get the sense of it through this view

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  4 года назад

      I show the T cam view of the lap at the end. That’ll give you all you need to know

  • @cas5447
    @cas5447 4 года назад

    would be track be fitting? maybe
    would the facilities be? no

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry 4 года назад

    Thumbs up if you liked it, thumbs down if you thought it was shite...but what if I thought it was shite and yet enjoyed it anyway?

  • @huyra8019
    @huyra8019 4 года назад

    1min 12 on keyboard

  • @nolandost3070
    @nolandost3070 4 года назад

    F1 would be too much for Laguna Seca. I grew up about 10 minutes from there and the track layout is just too small to produce good racing with the current spec of the cars. Its like Brands Hatch to me in some ways, its a good track but not right for F1.

  • @dyingearth
    @dyingearth 3 года назад +1

    Romain Grojean posted this video where he took an Indy car on this track and remark that it definitely cannot do F1 here. ruclips.net/video/8UiJVrVyyio/видео.html

  • @Atticus3lack
    @Atticus3lack 4 года назад +3

    Track could. Facilities not so much

  • @Shiggiesmalls02
    @Shiggiesmalls02 3 года назад

    your AC FOV makes me uncomfortable

  • @TheHoldenmcgroin
    @TheHoldenmcgroin 4 года назад

    F1 Neeeeeeeeeeeeeds to go to tracks that are not F1 friendly....

  • @boxdryer6973
    @boxdryer6973 4 года назад +1

    Have you ever heard about the incident that happened at a go-kart event?

  • @MRacer001
    @MRacer001 4 года назад

    the cars are too long for the corkscrew imo, let alone it would be impossible to pass, far too narrow

  • @rhythmnm5122
    @rhythmnm5122 4 года назад

    No.

  • @shafayatkabir
    @shafayatkabir 4 года назад

    Do F1 cars at Lost Heaven Circuit (Mafia : Definitive Edition).

  • @stefanosnapshots463
    @stefanosnapshots463 4 года назад

    Not suitable for f1. Also the pits are definitely not meeting the fia standards

  • @davidaddley4932
    @davidaddley4932 4 года назад

    Haas? Shouldnt u have tested with a real f1 car?!?!

  • @sekhyhybrid6701
    @sekhyhybrid6701 4 года назад

    No, track is complete trash for F1. Too narrow, too slow, facilities aren't up to the standard, track too short, no overtaking opportunities at all, pit entry doesn't meet the standards.

  • @matzemunz2827
    @matzemunz2827 4 года назад

    Go back to Story Time, neeeeeeerd.

  • @OoVECTORMANoO
    @OoVECTORMANoO 4 года назад

    Your using this year's Haas??? That piece of shit car doesnt go round any track......not a fair test atall if you are using either this years Ferrari or Haas.

  • @GodFootDaddyG
    @GodFootDaddyG 4 года назад

    Why is "SECA" in all caps?