The actual interview: Perfectly sane and cogent conversation about managing realistic expectations. The games press: SKYRIM DESIGNER SAYS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE FANS HAPPY BOOOO
Yup. I saw that particular video in my recommended, knew it was most likely some sensational crap. Found the source and as expected, it was nothing like the sensational crap people try to pull. At least something good came of it, i get to watch a banger
That might have more to do with the medium of Twitter and it's parroting by press then the actual response... Just why you should look at that in a little more suspect light, which is good cuz you're here.. where you can actually get real information in a less compressed format.
The way this man talks could make him everybody's favourite teacher in college. Love the part where he describe the painting to talk about expectations
I noticed that Oblivion and Daggerfall have some things in common when it comes to the design. And so do Morrowind and Skyrim. In Daggerfall and Oblivion, it's the traditional medieval European stuff, while Morrowind and Skyrim have some elements of the Roman empire and some alient stuff when it comes to Dunmer and Dwemer cultures and Morrowind-native creatures, which also cameo in Skyrim. I did also notice, though, that the Shivering Isles have some of that alien look from Morrowind, which is a welcome thing.
I think a lot of the core design principles as far as like the world building goes were established in arena and daggerfall, a lot of that still echoes through the other games.. I wish the level of writing from daggerfall had carried over but you know we're just for horses we'd all have $7 steaks.
The bar is set fairly low for expectations: make a title where player in-game choices have actual in-game consequences, both in environment and npc interactions
If only it were that simple. Not in that they have to make consequences exist, but the fact every facet of the game has to be improved over skyrim, which luckily a lot has been done with fallout 4 and starfield, like it or hate it. But a more realistic expectation is well everything improves. Writing for characters and stories, UI, combat, NPC AI, balancing, skill systems (starfield did pretty great with it's system), individual skills with their own mechanics, relationships (heavily improved courtesy of fallout 4), etc. there's countless more and it doesn't just end with in game consequences then and there.
You can purchase Bruce's new novel Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls in the link further below TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Lord Of The Rings Film Trilogy’s Impact On Oblivion 03:11 - Re-learning Game Development When Rejoining Bethesda 05:37 - Todd Picking Bruce To Be Lead Designer On Skyrim 07:30 - Bruce’s Relationship With Todd Howard 09:15 - Todd Howard’s Time Management Skills 14:15 - Todd Will Be Difficult To Replace/Todd Doesn’t Let Go Of Things 16:10 - Reality Vs Expectations/Elder Scrolls VI 18:20 - Negative Effect Skyrim Had On Bethesda Games 20:05 - Pressure Of Developing Elder Scrolls VI/Larian Studios 21:45 - Developing Sequels 24:10 - Feature Creep In Bethesda Games/Cut Systems From Starfield 26:00 - Designers Block/Being Hard Headed 28:45 - Self-Identity Being In Your Job/Writing Novels 34:45 - Bethesda’s Retention Rate Created A Problem/Layoffs 38:30 - Why Fallout 76 Initially Failed 43:06 - Fallout TV Show 45:30 - Travelling Inspiring Bruce’s Work/Being A Jack Of All Trades 52:40 - Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls 57:00 - Process Of Writing A Novel 1:00:11 - Q+A - Challenging Aspects Of Starfield 1:01:47 - Q+A - Criticism Of Starfield/Differences In Terms Of Design Between Fallout 4 & Starfield 1:04:21 - Q+A - Features Cut From Fallout 4 & Starfield 1:07:18 - Where To Get Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls
ooops just fixed the link www.amazon.com/Glory-Seeker-Ghouls-LitRPG-Adventure/dp/B0D9MFZJXJ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CTidZwrR-FmpKmDlH1dGnU88IGU626XmmpKJ4jtnTGIT4wRmpum4SiaAU47ZEcjfS6ENtSLBH2C5Loao73fDCtx4Ctsm8V6H5WvzMD6Vgj21NR39pUYWlNfJIhZOMD2XdkGQrBHsUbTjZEKGcuPCPw5_u80ngFnOJUYsS5BIObBBmyhlIWdiysqKVUOx0yIGml9weY6KoEtuXQBuErazpIimPOrz3VLi9nioGHRnW8l0Ll1nlKV0KvLW8ksUag75-YrvleAMvsnBtEuCTZcPP_4d9q27HUYFSFDyPICNdvI.UrkjBZaly3u6qzp-c6AJMYAwBC43uD6SathmL22hzSg&dib_tag=se&keywords=glory+seeker&qid=1724032592&sr=8-1
Gotta disagree with Elder Scrolls 6 having no way to meet fan expectations. Most fans I know, including myself, are expecting a disappointment. Bethesda went away from a single RPG model and has focused on mmo's for the cash stores. ESO had a bad launch, Fallout 76 is practically dead and had a bad launch, and Starfield was a huge letdown. Doesn't help that you got Todd Howard constantly making promises that can't be kept, citing features that don't exist.
People seem to forget about morrowing. Bethesda was at the verge of collapsing due to the fact that there style of games was getting older and redguard not lasting that long for I thing technical issues but they released morrowing. People loved it. I get that with the latest 'AAAA' flops, people are less excited for new games but i don't thing it should be always that way.
@@Nikos41978Yeah they made 2 bad games and it nearly bankrupted them, it's bgs heritage that making a good main title tes game after a couple bad games
Just got his book on Audible! Bruce is such a cool dude. And on a complete aside - he reminds me alot of Bob Lazar; just his well-thought, well-ariculated way of speaking; and also kinda looks like him lol
As of right now, I still have a lot of faith in Bethesda & TESVI. Starfield didn't quite have the replayability that I hoped for, but I still enjoy hoping into it from time to time.
The interviewer is like unaware of interview etiquette. "Are you hard headed?" "Creative people usually have an ego are are sensitive" Yet Bruce was very humble and kind in response 😂 man..
Great interview. Would have liked specific stories about specific games, and really want to know more about his TSR days, especially given that his name is attached to a lot of books from his time there. Happy that he's still creating
The cut content/economy/"building ship components" info about Starfield is fascinating. If that had NOT been cut the gameplay loop would likely have been much, much better and the "empty planets" criticism might have fallen away as the player would be running all over those planets trying to find the best combinations of resource nodes to bolster their production chain. Of course, one COULD do this in Starfield but there was no really good purpose for it without more meaningful crafting/construction. Here's hoping this feature is resurrected in future patches or DLC.
I don't need to physically embody the character or anything to be satisfied. I just want a medium-large map with 10 years of development worth of content to populate it, a new game mechanic like shouts for example and terrain and ai that isn't buggy.
Todd should be removed from his position and not allowed to discuss any future games. Starfield was a complete disaster in terms of managing expectations because by itself it is a very good game.
This is the next TES game. It should align with the TES format along with something new, like they have done with each game. An unknown hero crawling out of some bad thing in order to become "the one" that alters history or the events or something along these lines. It is a staple for this series. I believe, since ESO is pretty successful, they should lean on the lore that has been built. Though ESO did do some lore breaking, it still feels smooth and within the parameters of the TES universe. Except it's an MMO and there are tons of "heros". I am expecting awesome. However, I am a realist, after 76 and Starfield and the buy out from M$, I believe the downhill started there. ESO and Skyrim may be the last great things to come from the TES universe. My sadness knows no bounds due to this. I love the series. I hope it remains good with TES6
As a huge fan of skyrim and elder scrolls as a franchise by extent, my way of coping is telling myself that fallout or starfield don't really determine what we'll get with TES6. Every bethesda rpg tries something new as you said, they all feel distinct more or less while still being the same framework, imagining something like skyrim but with fallout 4's relationships and building and crafting mechanics, or starfield's perk system and more subtle additions like actually comprehensive settings menus and vaulting. I'm not doomer about TES6, i expect a pretty darn fun game even if flawed to hell, like every, and i mean every bethesda rpg. Whether it's starfield our the prized cow morrowind.
I have serious doubts about Bethesda's ability to make good games anymore. It's been a very long time since they made anything worth playing. Starfield was an embarrassment.
This is the dude who said our expectations for ES6 are impossible to meet? Like lmao no they are not, and WHAT audacity to set it up as if the game fails, it's OUR fault and not theirs 😂
So kids... the moral of the story is don't make anything great because people will expect equality great things from you in the future and that just not realistic. Guys coping really hard.
No matter how great TES VI, you losers will always complain because it's not like Skyrim or Oblivion or Morrowind. Happened with Skyrim. Happened with Oblivion. Happened with Morrowind too for not being like Daggerfall. It'll happen again. No matter what they do, people who want to be miserable will continue. Luckily, just like all the other BGS games, it will find an audience that appreciates it and sees its strengths alongside all the other games.
@@NinjaWienerStop projecting. I will play next TES for many hundreds of hours even if it's just mid, mostly because it's my favourite fantasy world. Bethesda made my favourite games. Doesn't mean that I have to applaud when they cut or simplify futures. The old school fans don't have crazy expectations. We simply wanted more of what we loved. Bethesda might find a global audience at the cost of alienating some of it's core. They been doing that for many years just gantly enough not to loose us all together. To be fair, noone else seems to be able to pull it off long-term like they do. But if this continues... Do you know anyone proud of working in Mcdonald?
@@NinjaWienerbethesda have made 3 games the last decade and 2 were unplayable messes at launch. They keep trying to reinvent the wheel and it just doesn't work. They could copy every single mechanic from skyrim, put it on the new engine and make a new map and i would be happy. But they will undoubtedly change things that were good before and make it worse. But you're the good consoomer that won't care anyway, as long as there is a new product to consume
I thought think morrowind, oblivion and skyrim are equally good. Starfield however is objectively trash, and if they keep decisions they made in starfield tes 6 is going to be just as trash
My only expectation for a new TES game is that they finally ditch the current engine and use something new that reflects the current times. Because if they use the old engine again... the game will be dead before launch.
Ah, should they use a current day engine like let's see, the 26 year old Unreal Engine? Which, sarcasm aside, is an example that "old engine" means nothing. Game engines get updates, they evolve. Creation Engine, with all it's flaws and drawbacks, is handmade to make bethesda RPGs and there isn't really any alternative to that. The vast majority of most sold games ever use proprietary engines.
@@zu-tangclan8113 Hello 🤡Stating that a game is garbage and woke, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them.
@@zu-tangclan8113 @zu-tangclan8113 Hello 🤡Stating that a game is garbage and woke, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them.
@@zu-tangclan8113 @zu-tangclan8113 🤡Stating that a game is garbage, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them. You sound like someone who hangs around reddit.
22:36: Todd and Bethesda please hear this! Don't downgrade your previous systems (specially NPC reactivity and combat but not exclusively). Starfield had several systems that were downgraded even compared with Skyrim. For one, Skyrim's NPCs would react appropriately to what player did (e.g. pulling a weapon, casting magic, dropping items, wearing armor) whereas new ones felt lifeless. Additionally, it had killcams, dual-wielding, directional power attacks, etc. I.e. plz make *better* (immersive sim?!?) systems at top priority 🙏.
Tbf while there are absolutely moments where systems are pointlessly gutted, like FO4's anemic melee combat that made skyrim's combat seem actually decent. But there are things they do still very much improve upon. Starfield for example introduced in my opinion the best perk system in all of BGS RPGs. The perks themselves might be rather poor in context of the game, but the whole idea of picking whatever perk you want while having to actually engage with the mechanic that perk belongs to, makes it a lot more dynamic and engaging as opposed to just. Casting illusion spells in whiterun to get perk points.
@@Verchiel_ imo Starfield's perks were dull. And I agree that Starfield was a downgrade in melee combat. FO4 as well in some areas (man, I miss dual-wielding) but on the other hand it had VATS/Criticals/Perks going for it. It felt to me that Starfield had fewer or downgraded systems except for the addition of ships, which was constrained by the loading screens.
@@Odisseia-hh2td I'm in no way denying that the individual perks were mostly pretty garbage, whether in creativity or just being close to useless in practice I'm just saying I like how the perk system works with each perk having a challenge associated with it. And it was very much fallout 4 that removed most of the melee depth. A single attack and a weird parry/block mechanic. Vats and crits were just carried over from previous fallouts. Best addition it had to melee is the weapon customization, which even that somehow got gutter in starfield. Although it doesn't really make one bit of sense to do anything melee in a futuristic space game.
The actual interview: Perfectly sane and cogent conversation about managing realistic expectations.
The games press: SKYRIM DESIGNER SAYS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE FANS HAPPY BOOOO
Yup. I saw that particular video in my recommended, knew it was most likely some sensational crap.
Found the source and as expected, it was nothing like the sensational crap people try to pull.
At least something good came of it, i get to watch a banger
That might have more to do with the medium of Twitter and it's parroting by press then the actual response... Just why you should look at that in a little more suspect light, which is good cuz you're here.. where you can actually get real information in a less compressed format.
The way this man talks could make him everybody's favourite teacher in college. Love the part where he describe the painting to talk about expectations
I noticed that Oblivion and Daggerfall have some things in common when it comes to the design. And so do Morrowind and Skyrim. In Daggerfall and Oblivion, it's the traditional medieval European stuff, while Morrowind and Skyrim have some elements of the Roman empire and some alient stuff when it comes to Dunmer and Dwemer cultures and Morrowind-native creatures, which also cameo in Skyrim. I did also notice, though, that the Shivering Isles have some of that alien look from Morrowind, which is a welcome thing.
I think a lot of the core design principles as far as like the world building goes were established in arena and daggerfall, a lot of that still echoes through the other games.. I wish the level of writing from daggerfall had carried over but you know we're just for horses we'd all have $7 steaks.
The bar is set fairly low for expectations: make a title where player in-game choices have actual in-game consequences, both in environment and npc interactions
If only it were that simple.
Not in that they have to make consequences exist, but the fact every facet of the game has to be improved over skyrim, which luckily a lot has been done with fallout 4 and starfield, like it or hate it.
But a more realistic expectation is well everything improves. Writing for characters and stories, UI, combat, NPC AI, balancing, skill systems (starfield did pretty great with it's system), individual skills with their own mechanics, relationships (heavily improved courtesy of fallout 4), etc.
there's countless more and it doesn't just end with in game consequences then and there.
Very underrated interview. Thank you putting this together and making this possible
I enjoyed Mr. Nesmith's interview on minnmaxx and am glad to get another one from him!
You can purchase Bruce's new novel Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls in the link further below
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Lord Of The Rings Film Trilogy’s Impact On Oblivion
03:11 - Re-learning Game Development When Rejoining Bethesda
05:37 - Todd Picking Bruce To Be Lead Designer On Skyrim
07:30 - Bruce’s Relationship With Todd Howard
09:15 - Todd Howard’s Time Management Skills
14:15 - Todd Will Be Difficult To Replace/Todd Doesn’t Let Go Of Things
16:10 - Reality Vs Expectations/Elder Scrolls VI
18:20 - Negative Effect Skyrim Had On Bethesda Games
20:05 - Pressure Of Developing Elder Scrolls VI/Larian Studios
21:45 - Developing Sequels
24:10 - Feature Creep In Bethesda Games/Cut Systems From Starfield
26:00 - Designers Block/Being Hard Headed
28:45 - Self-Identity Being In Your Job/Writing Novels
34:45 - Bethesda’s Retention Rate Created A Problem/Layoffs
38:30 - Why Fallout 76 Initially Failed
43:06 - Fallout TV Show
45:30 - Travelling Inspiring Bruce’s Work/Being A Jack Of All Trades
52:40 - Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls
57:00 - Process Of Writing A Novel
1:00:11 - Q+A - Challenging Aspects Of Starfield
1:01:47 - Q+A - Criticism Of Starfield/Differences In Terms Of Design Between Fallout 4 & Starfield
1:04:21 - Q+A - Features Cut From Fallout 4 & Starfield
1:07:18 - Where To Get Glory Seeker Book One: Feast Of Ghouls
Either me or the Amazon link is broken 😅
ooops just fixed the link
www.amazon.com/Glory-Seeker-Ghouls-LitRPG-Adventure/dp/B0D9MFZJXJ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CTidZwrR-FmpKmDlH1dGnU88IGU626XmmpKJ4jtnTGIT4wRmpum4SiaAU47ZEcjfS6ENtSLBH2C5Loao73fDCtx4Ctsm8V6H5WvzMD6Vgj21NR39pUYWlNfJIhZOMD2XdkGQrBHsUbTjZEKGcuPCPw5_u80ngFnOJUYsS5BIObBBmyhlIWdiysqKVUOx0yIGml9weY6KoEtuXQBuErazpIimPOrz3VLi9nioGHRnW8l0Ll1nlKV0KvLW8ksUag75-YrvleAMvsnBtEuCTZcPP_4d9q27HUYFSFDyPICNdvI.UrkjBZaly3u6qzp-c6AJMYAwBC43uD6SathmL22hzSg&dib_tag=se&keywords=glory+seeker&qid=1724032592&sr=8-1
You really feel how we are our job when you lose it, I identify with his story.
Gotta disagree with Elder Scrolls 6 having no way to meet fan expectations. Most fans I know, including myself, are expecting a disappointment. Bethesda went away from a single RPG model and has focused on mmo's for the cash stores. ESO had a bad launch, Fallout 76 is practically dead and had a bad launch, and Starfield was a huge letdown. Doesn't help that you got Todd Howard constantly making promises that can't be kept, citing features that don't exist.
ESO is not made by bethesda game studio
People seem to forget about morrowing. Bethesda was at the verge of collapsing due to the fact that there style of games was getting older and redguard not lasting that long for I thing technical issues but they released morrowing. People loved it. I get that with the latest 'AAAA' flops, people are less excited for new games but i don't thing it should be always that way.
@@Nikos41978Yeah they made 2 bad games and it nearly bankrupted them, it's bgs heritage that making a good main title tes game after a couple bad games
Well about LotR influence - Whiterun is literally Edoras
Excellent interview!
Just got his book on Audible!
Bruce is such a cool dude.
And on a complete aside - he reminds me alot of Bob Lazar; just his well-thought, well-ariculated way of speaking; and also kinda looks like him lol
As of right now, I still have a lot of faith in Bethesda & TESVI. Starfield didn't quite have the replayability that I hoped for, but I still enjoy hoping into it from time to time.
The interviewer is like unaware of interview etiquette. "Are you hard headed?" "Creative people usually have an ego are are sensitive"
Yet Bruce was very humble and kind in response 😂 man..
Great interview. Would have liked specific stories about specific games, and really want to know more about his TSR days, especially given that his name is attached to a lot of books from his time there. Happy that he's still creating
He has done a lot of interviews over the years so I wanted to try and cover new stuff, there are a number of interviews around already on his TSR days
@@KIWITALKZ Cool, I'll try to find them. Again, enjoyed the interview. Thanks!
The cut content/economy/"building ship components" info about Starfield is fascinating. If that had NOT been cut the gameplay loop would likely have been much, much better and the "empty planets" criticism might have fallen away as the player would be running all over those planets trying to find the best combinations of resource nodes to bolster their production chain. Of course, one COULD do this in Starfield but there was no really good purpose for it without more meaningful crafting/construction. Here's hoping this feature is resurrected in future patches or DLC.
Bro asked my question. I feel like I won a raffle 😂
this video needs wayyy more videos..
I don't need to physically embody the character or anything to be satisfied. I just want a medium-large map with 10 years of development worth of content to populate it, a new game mechanic like shouts for example and terrain and ai that isn't buggy.
Todd should be removed from his position and not allowed to discuss any future games. Starfield was a complete disaster in terms of managing expectations because by itself it is a very good game.
"former Dev", he can't help us help BGS.
This is the next TES game. It should align with the TES format along with something new, like they have done with each game. An unknown hero crawling out of some bad thing in order to become "the one" that alters history or the events or something along these lines.
It is a staple for this series.
I believe, since ESO is pretty successful, they should lean on the lore that has been built. Though ESO did do some lore breaking, it still feels smooth and within the parameters of the TES universe.
Except it's an MMO and there are tons of "heros".
I am expecting awesome. However, I am a realist, after 76 and Starfield and the buy out from M$, I believe the downhill started there.
ESO and Skyrim may be the last great things to come from the TES universe.
My sadness knows no bounds due to this. I love the series. I hope it remains good with TES6
As a huge fan of skyrim and elder scrolls as a franchise by extent, my way of coping is telling myself that fallout or starfield don't really determine what we'll get with TES6.
Every bethesda rpg tries something new as you said, they all feel distinct more or less while still being the same framework, imagining something like skyrim but with fallout 4's relationships and building and crafting mechanics, or starfield's perk system and more subtle additions like actually comprehensive settings menus and vaulting.
I'm not doomer about TES6, i expect a pretty darn fun game even if flawed to hell, like every, and i mean every bethesda rpg. Whether it's starfield our the prized cow morrowind.
I have serious doubts about Bethesda's ability to make good games anymore. It's been a very long time since they made anything worth playing. Starfield was an embarrassment.
This is the dude who said our expectations for ES6 are impossible to meet? Like lmao no they are not, and WHAT audacity to set it up as if the game fails, it's OUR fault and not theirs 😂
So kids... the moral of the story is don't make anything great because people will expect equality great things from you in the future and that just not realistic. Guys coping really hard.
No matter how great TES VI, you losers will always complain because it's not like Skyrim or Oblivion or Morrowind. Happened with Skyrim. Happened with Oblivion. Happened with Morrowind too for not being like Daggerfall. It'll happen again. No matter what they do, people who want to be miserable will continue. Luckily, just like all the other BGS games, it will find an audience that appreciates it and sees its strengths alongside all the other games.
@@NinjaWienerStop projecting. I will play next TES for many hundreds of hours even if it's just mid, mostly because it's my favourite fantasy world. Bethesda made my favourite games. Doesn't mean that I have to applaud when they cut or simplify futures. The old school fans don't have crazy expectations. We simply wanted more of what we loved. Bethesda might find a global audience at the cost of alienating some of it's core. They been doing that for many years just gantly enough not to loose us all together. To be fair, noone else seems to be able to pull it off long-term like they do. But if this continues... Do you know anyone proud of working in Mcdonald?
@@NinjaWienerbethesda have made 3 games the last decade and 2 were unplayable messes at launch. They keep trying to reinvent the wheel and it just doesn't work.
They could copy every single mechanic from skyrim, put it on the new engine and make a new map and i would be happy. But they will undoubtedly change things that were good before and make it worse. But you're the good consoomer that won't care anyway, as long as there is a new product to consume
I thought think morrowind, oblivion and skyrim are equally good. Starfield however is objectively trash, and if they keep decisions they made in starfield tes 6 is going to be just as trash
@@2138Dude Nope, Starfield is a return to form after FO4. I loved it - it's not objectively trash, it might be subjectively trash to you though.
My only expectation for a new TES game is that they finally ditch the current engine and use something new that reflects the current times. Because if they use the old engine again... the game will be dead before launch.
Ah, should they use a current day engine like let's see, the 26 year old Unreal Engine?
Which, sarcasm aside, is an example that "old engine" means nothing.
Game engines get updates, they evolve. Creation Engine, with all it's flaws and drawbacks, is handmade to make bethesda RPGs and there isn't really any alternative to that.
The vast majority of most sold games ever use proprietary engines.
Please, for gods sake, let the person you interview speak frist you say "sorry go aheaed" how hard can that be.
Bethesda is done . We all know yes will be same as maybe a little better graphics.
Starfield was a woke mess and garbage, so I don't think Bethesda have it in them anymore. The good devs left. Just like CD-projekt red and Bioware.
babyface? Mr Gender Ambiguity? That you?
Poor thing gets offended by colorful hair people, you’re the real victim here, here’s some tissues princess
@@zu-tangclan8113 Hello 🤡Stating that a game is garbage and woke, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them.
@@zu-tangclan8113 @zu-tangclan8113 Hello 🤡Stating that a game is garbage and woke, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them.
@@zu-tangclan8113 @zu-tangclan8113 🤡Stating that a game is garbage, has nothing to do with "victim". Do not mix in your own odd thoughts into subject that has no relevance to them.
You sound like someone who hangs around reddit.
22:36: Todd and Bethesda please hear this! Don't downgrade your previous systems (specially NPC reactivity and combat but not exclusively). Starfield had several systems that were downgraded even compared with Skyrim. For one, Skyrim's NPCs would react appropriately to what player did (e.g. pulling a weapon, casting magic, dropping items, wearing armor) whereas new ones felt lifeless. Additionally, it had killcams, dual-wielding, directional power attacks, etc. I.e. plz make *better* (immersive sim?!?) systems at top priority 🙏.
Btw, love you all Bethesda folks for making great memories! Wishing all the best to Todd and crew!
Tbf while there are absolutely moments where systems are pointlessly gutted, like FO4's anemic melee combat that made skyrim's combat seem actually decent.
But there are things they do still very much improve upon.
Starfield for example introduced in my opinion the best perk system in all of BGS RPGs.
The perks themselves might be rather poor in context of the game, but the whole idea of picking whatever perk you want while having to actually engage with the mechanic that perk belongs to, makes it a lot more dynamic and engaging as opposed to just. Casting illusion spells in whiterun to get perk points.
@@Verchiel_ imo Starfield's perks were dull. And I agree that Starfield was a downgrade in melee combat. FO4 as well in some areas (man, I miss dual-wielding) but on the other hand it had VATS/Criticals/Perks going for it. It felt to me that Starfield had fewer or downgraded systems except for the addition of ships, which was constrained by the loading screens.
@@Odisseia-hh2td I'm in no way denying that the individual perks were mostly pretty garbage, whether in creativity or just being close to useless in practice
I'm just saying I like how the perk system works with each perk having a challenge associated with it.
And it was very much fallout 4 that removed most of the melee depth. A single attack and a weird parry/block mechanic.
Vats and crits were just carried over from previous fallouts.
Best addition it had to melee is the weapon customization, which even that somehow got gutter in starfield. Although it doesn't really make one bit of sense to do anything melee in a futuristic space game.