The TRUTH About Peptides & Bioregulators for Anti-Aging | Nathalie Niddam

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  • @ronwilliamson8384
    @ronwilliamson8384 Год назад +36

    Big pharmacy will fight this all the way

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +20

      You are too right unfortunately… but they cannot stop the wave eventually…

    • @chaddobson7056
      @chaddobson7056 Год назад +8

      Your exactly right and that’s when Americans need to stand up and fight for what it’s healed in our bodies.

    • @Ricky31628580
      @Ricky31628580 7 месяцев назад

      Big pharma has lost incase you haven't notice already.

    • @cindykenyon8754
      @cindykenyon8754 7 месяцев назад

      Big pharmacy has essentially murdered millions of people. When will people articulate that fact in their minds? That’s just the truth. All for the accumulation of money. Blood money.

  • @DuckRott
    @DuckRott Год назад +13

    Dr. Kong thank you for being brave and a leader in your field to discover new methods to help people who are in pain or just want to get better. You are a True doctor and hope .
    My Best to you

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +2

      Your kind comment means more to me than you know! Standing up for what’s right is not always easy, and support and kindness from people like you is what makes it all worth it…❤️

  • @jennifercarillio8403
    @jennifercarillio8403 5 месяцев назад +4

    Again, we need more practitioners with your mindset. I was in the fitness/health/wellness industry for 40 years. We were able to see clients come off of particular meds just with proper exercise and diet. I'm a bit disturbed that many clinics are providing this so called "miracle weight loss injections" without providing any additional assistance or suggestions with their lifestyle changes.
    Thanks again for all your wonderfully informative videos, Dr. Kong!❤

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much for your kind comment and support...❤️ Definitely need a comprehensive approach at optimizing health and a lot of the weight would tend to come off naturally...

  • @stuartist
    @stuartist Год назад +2

    There's so much important information that I'm overwhelmed. Are there show notes for this episode?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      I'm sorry we don't have firm stamps at this point if that's what you meant...

  • @mrmartinez4188
    @mrmartinez4188 Год назад +4

    Wow, she was very informative. She also mentioned BPC 157 causing anxiety on some people. I never thought or never heard that before.
    I never felt anxious but since, i started, i would feel so anxious. That makes sense now. Thanks 😊

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      You are very welcome! So glad you have found value in this podcast!

    • @SonicDephect
      @SonicDephect 10 месяцев назад

      Had the same. Haven’t heard this section of this interview yet but my understanding was it affects neuro transmitters

  • @carolyjerrow3249
    @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад +5

    My Dr's tell me Im just angry at getting old, There isn't anything to stop it. Get over it. I am gong to start paying this forward beginning today.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +5

      Your doctor is definitely wrong and he/she has the old school thinking which is really not doing justice to their patients… I hope the doctors wake up from the reactionary (disease to medication) model and move toward a more enlightened way to practicing medicine.

  • @ushmaprem8624
    @ushmaprem8624 Год назад +3

    Dear Dr Joy thanks so much for doing this amazing podcast. The world of peptides is fascinating!
    Could you do one only for autoimmune disease? If you do it. Please dont forget to ask about scleroderma. Much love your way 🙏

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      Hi, thank you for your kind words! It means a lot to me! I can try at some point in the future… appreciate your input:)

    • @ushmaprem8624
      @ushmaprem8624 Год назад

      @@JoyKongMD thanks Doc. If you had an autoimmune disease and wanted to heal with peptides who or where to look for information? Lots of podcasts menrion is good for autoimmunity but nobody talk explicity of the use and science behind that. Have a wonder day and keep shining.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      @@ushmaprem8624 Thank you for your kind words. Yes lots of the therapies are new and it is difficult to find centralized information due to the cutting edge nature of the treatments… I think podcasts and scientific publications online may be a good place to start…

  • @R512_
    @R512_ 2 месяца назад +1

    Bookmark 20:25

  • @rosebuddloved
    @rosebuddloved Год назад +2

    This was great!! Thank you so much ❤

  • @VELVET462
    @VELVET462 Месяц назад +1

    i dont want stop aging, i just want to have again enough energy to live normal. Since 1 year im fighint against hypothyroidism and take l thyroxine but I'm not feeling any better. I'm waiting for selank+semax now because the hypothyroidism has also messed up a lot of things for me mentally. I dont know what to do else. Also trying Ipamorelin right now at the moment after the second day i felt much worse, my sleep was very bad. No its the 7th day and still only feeling much worse than before. I no longer have the strength to get through the days

  • @carolyjerrow3249
    @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад +1

    Know you're busy, and i want the Epitolon. Ready with the check. I had ask question about BPC-157 help with slowing down Osterarthritis.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      You can contact the clinic (Uplyft) to get the peptides, and let me know what questions you have… 818-356-8232 or info@uplyftcenter.com

  • @PandaA-cv3mm
    @PandaA-cv3mm Год назад +3

    Excellent show! Thank you both.
    I have recently ordered a few from Profound Health. Great timing! New subbie here ☺️

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      Wonderful!❤️ Grateful for your comment and support! Cheers to health!

  • @carolyjerrow3249
    @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад +2

    Thank you for getting me started. Carol Jerrow

  • @travislovelace7619
    @travislovelace7619 Год назад +3

    You didnt leave the discount code for Profound Health

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +3

      You can go to www.profound-health.com, and use coupon code UPLYFT15 to get 15% off your first purchase.

    • @travislovelace7619
      @travislovelace7619 Год назад +1

      @@JoyKongMD oh thank you so much!!!!

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 Год назад +4

    Great information 🔥

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 Год назад +2

    I definitely, want, to stack, peptides, as we'll

  • @ImmortalExplorer
    @ImmortalExplorer Год назад +4

    I can't afford a six week cycle. Would a two or three week cycle of BPC 157 be enough to heal old muscle /joint injuries from wear and tear?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +2

      It can definitely help, but whether or not it’s going to “heal” old injuries depends on the extent of the injury and your health condition..

    • @ImmortalExplorer
      @ImmortalExplorer Год назад +2

      @@JoyKongMD thanks

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      @@ImmortalExplorer you’re welcome

    • @constantinosoianu8144
      @constantinosoianu8144 Год назад

      I had a heart attack one year ago ,would it be safe for me to take cjc-1295 ipamorelin

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      @@constantinosoianu8144 I have not heard of any contraindications for heart attacks and ipramorelin and CJC 1295 use…

  • @ahmoseamexemel8023
    @ahmoseamexemel8023 Год назад +2

    Hello from Alabama have unable to set an appointment for April if possible.. Called several time left messages but no answer yet. Thanks

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      Sorry to hear that. Please email info@uplyftcenter.com please, and if you provide your phone number I can relay to our clinic manager.

    • @ahmoseamexemel8023
      @ahmoseamexemel8023 Год назад +2

      Requested an appointment as directed

  • @Thecoachco
    @Thecoachco Год назад +3

    She mentioned the pancreas ,I have a friend who has pancreatic cancer,as we know it usually ends up sadly,is there a chance of anykind of peptide or bio-regulator that could help her when they send her home the day they tell her,there is nothing more we can do?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +5

      There are a lot of things one can do, and I suggest that your friend go see an integrative oncologist or an integrative physician who speculation cancer treatments… she should definitely try the thymus and pancreas bioregulators, but she also needs a good cohesive treatment plan to attack the root causes of the cancer…

    • @Thecoachco
      @Thecoachco Год назад +2

      @@JoyKongMD Thank you

  • @dayhill9855
    @dayhill9855 Год назад +1

    Hi I wrote a comment earlier but can't see it listed.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      Not sure which comment you are referring to…

    • @dayhill9855
      @dayhill9855 Год назад

      @@JoyKongMD it's ok I seen it posted on your other video now thank you

  • @sasidharanc7632
    @sasidharanc7632 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can we utilize umbilical cord stem cell of animals, in stem cell therapy for human?If not why?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  5 месяцев назад +3

      There's no good reason to use animals Stem Cells when we have perfectly good human stem cells. Cells from another species will have much greater chance for cell surface receptor mismatch and rejection.

  • @MegaHowtoMan
    @MegaHowtoMan 8 месяцев назад +1

    What is the blood vessel bioregulator she is talking about

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  8 месяцев назад +1

      There is a bioregulator peptide specifically helps the health of blood vessels... they are pretty much called blood vessel bioregulator, but has a Russian name.

    • @wzpu3283
      @wzpu3283 3 месяца назад

      Vesugen

  • @user-qd9ss2wx5p
    @user-qd9ss2wx5p 2 месяца назад

    I have listened to many of your highly informative interviews but can not remember if there was a clarification for the general dosage for Epithalon and when is the best time to take it ? There is generally some confusion between Epithalamine and a Epithalon with the former requiring 5-10 gm of dose which is much higher then one would inject for Epithalon ? Would you be able to offer any clarification on this ? Also the oral version of TB500 fragment do you know how effective it is ?

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 4 месяца назад +1

    I want, to work, with you, Dr. Kong👍

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  4 месяца назад +1

      Would be happy to work with you. You can contact our clinic at 818-356-8232 or email info@chara-health.com. You can also send in a contact form at www.joykongmd.com/contact/. Cheers to great health.

    • @erwinrogers9470
      @erwinrogers9470 4 месяца назад

      @JoyKongMD Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm in, the process, of getting, every thing together. Cheers to, great health👍

  • @McNastySlam
    @McNastySlam Год назад +1

    Anywhere else besides profound health to find bio regulators? Every one I would want to try is always out of stock. Qi looks like it sells the same ones but slightly higher price.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      I am sorry they are temporarily out of stock. I don’t know of any other trustworthy companies for bioregulators…

    • @deeznuts3145
      @deeznuts3145 Год назад +1

      Peptides sciences and purerawz are good I’ve used both.

  • @carolyjerrow3249
    @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад +1

    I cannot locate Epitolon on Profound health. where can I search?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      They don’t have Epitalon. You can get it from our clinic or other places where peptides are sold

    • @jjlol7457
      @jjlol7457 3 месяца назад

      Do you sell the oral form of epitolon?

  • @ElisabethDonati
    @ElisabethDonati 10 месяцев назад +1

    For blood sugar issues, carnivore is a great answer.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  10 месяцев назад +1

      It could be, esp for certain amount of time. But there's tremendous value in plants, which has tremendous amounts of nutrients that's not available through a pure carnivore diet... maybe you would be interested in listening to this podcast:
      ruclips.net/video/koOy9TEmIdw/видео.htmlsi=-i62_sUn0WmjpFcO

  • @criticalcareeducationalsup4464
    @criticalcareeducationalsup4464 3 месяца назад

    What is your opion in SO PEP company which offer mixed peptides in high doses?

  • @beatscatmommy1735
    @beatscatmommy1735 7 месяцев назад +2

    If Semiglutide helps kidneys, can a skinny person with kidney disease take it for kidney health? I thought semiglutide is bad for kidneys

  • @angelatakano6072
    @angelatakano6072 3 месяца назад

    What about prions ??????????

  • @merriisom5215
    @merriisom5215 Год назад +2

    I’m wondering could peptide or bioregulators or stem cell therapy help heal severe dry eye?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +2

      Thank you for your question. I will have to look that up for you…

    • @merriisom5215
      @merriisom5215 Год назад +2

      I would greatly appreciate that, thank you.

    • @stefanallard3084
      @stefanallard3084 Год назад

      ​@@merriisom5215 castor oil is used to cure eye diseases, hexan free

    • @higherresolution4490
      @higherresolution4490 Год назад +1

      Dry eyes and dry mouth are often clinical signs of low iodine. Of course, there can be other reasons, such as chronic dehydration. But low iodine is fairly typical, especially for those with hypothyroidism.
      You can experiment with a good quality kelp supplement, which is very inexpensive. For the long-term, this is better than using the high-potency Iodoral product because kelp has all of the factors and forms of iodine that the body needs to utilize.
      Iodoral will take care of the problem very fast from personal experience. However, I wouldn't suggest its continued use due to the high potency of 12.5 mg.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +2

      @@higherresolution4490 Be very careful with iodine supplementation. Low iodine level is quite rare, whereas oversupplementation has become a real program leading to rampant hyper and hypo-thyroidism. For more clarification on this matter, please read the book The Thyroid Reset Diet by Dr Alan Christianson.

  • @robertwood9984
    @robertwood9984 Год назад

    Would this have any benefit for Afib?
    Thanks.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      There has been some research showing great results by injecting heart stem cells directly into the heart when it comes to Afib… haven’t seen enough evidence when it comes to MSCs (Mesenchymal Stem Cells)

  • @siewseonkoay1489
    @siewseonkoay1489 Год назад

    Hi Dr Joy, can the product ship to Singapore?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      I can look into it… will get back to you…

  • @robertschrum5496
    @robertschrum5496 5 месяцев назад

    Are there products to help with a Crush injury?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  5 месяцев назад +1

      I do believe some of the peptides can accelerate tissue healing, such as BPC 157 and growth hormone secretagogues (ipramorelin, CJC 1295 etc)

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 Год назад +3

    Love it 🔥

  • @carolyjerrow3249
    @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад

    What is proper spelling for Human Growth Hormon? Not sure about pronunction. Have started 3rd day of Dr Joy recommendations. Epitalong for HGH?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      HGH stands for human growth hormone. Epitalon have many benefits, but I’m not aware of any use to enhance growth hormone. Epitalon mainly helps rejuvenate the cardiovascular system, extends telomeres and protect against all age-related diseases…

    • @carolyjerrow3249
      @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад

      I have to have it. I want it. It will help my hair grow. Nix on rowing up. Been there before. $ plz

    • @carolyjerrow3249
      @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад +1

      Nix on growing up. Rejuvenate, turn back clock. Check waiting, clock ready to rewind

    • @carolyjerrow3249
      @carolyjerrow3249 Год назад

      @@JoyKongMD I know it woont make me 6 ft tall, but I do have cardiovascular system, hair, nails, peeling skin

  • @serafinoanselmo8329
    @serafinoanselmo8329 Год назад +1

    Which online store can I buy online trustworthy Peptides?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      I am not familiar with online sources to provide that recommendation, and they are all “for research use” only…

    • @serafinoanselmo8329
      @serafinoanselmo8329 Год назад +1

      Thank you

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +4

      @@serafinoanselmo8329 You’re welcome. The peptide space is unfortunately being suppressed. One can understand why, since these are either identical or very similar to natural molecules in the human body, very powerful in what they can do and have little side effects… it is threatening to the giant pharma industry…

    • @saltybaelv
      @saltybaelv Год назад

      @@JoyKongMDwhat are possible risks? I’m very uneducated in this space, so I apologize for such a simple question. I was listening to Dr. William Seed on peptides where he advised that if a peptide solution isn’t like 99.8% pure then it can causes damage to our DNA, possibly cancer and such. So he doesn’t recommend any compound pharmacy’s for that reason. I know it’s up to individuals to decide if they’re willing to take that risk. Basically I’d love to learn more about this “99.8%” purity thing and how/if it can damage our cells if not that particular percentage.

  • @kellybowen5956
    @kellybowen5956 Год назад

    I went to Profound Health website to purchase bioregulators but everything is out of stock. Any other suggestions where to purchase?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      I am so sorry. I do not know of another source. Indeed they have been out of stock a lot, which is a shame. Hopefully they can get things back in stock soon.

    • @kellybowen5956
      @kellybowen5956 Год назад +1

      @@JoyKongMD Thank you for your response.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      @@kellybowen5956 you’re welcome

  • @gardeniabirch1590
    @gardeniabirch1590 9 месяцев назад

    Still confused about peptides
    -Can they be taken orally
    -What’s the dosing
    -Subcutaneous vs oral
    -Again dosing for subcutaneous

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  9 месяцев назад +1

      The peptide area is messy, because some peptides can be taken orally, and some only subcutaneously, and the dose is different for every peptide...

  • @beatscatmommy1735
    @beatscatmommy1735 7 месяцев назад +1

    I also think Semiglutides open can of worms of Eating disorders. I have 2 friends who got Semiglutides from their doctors just to lose the last extra 10 pounds for their beach vacation and now they both lost more than 10 pounds and have never ever been thia skinny. And neither one wants to get off it afraid of gaining weight back. They rarely eat when we go out. Like anorexics

  • @LeanoraAvery-e5i
    @LeanoraAvery-e5i Год назад

    So how can I get these peptides to buy

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      To purchase bioregulators, please go to www.profound-health.com, and use coupon code UPLYFT15 to get 15% off your first purchase.

  • @jolantagrzelak5900
    @jolantagrzelak5900 Год назад

    Hi how I can purchase peptides, I am living in Canada _Toronto Any recommendations of finding a naturopath doctor ? Thank you for your help

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      Hi Jolanta, unfortunately we cannot yet ship peptides to Canada. I can recommend a naturopathic doctor to you - Dr Caleb Ng in Vancouver is a wonderful naturopath and should be able to help you.

    • @deeznuts3145
      @deeznuts3145 Год назад

      Purerawz

  • @deborahjordahl9040
    @deborahjordahl9040 8 месяцев назад

    So if it’s naturally occurring in our body shouldn’t need a prescription right?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  8 месяцев назад +2

      That is supposed to be the case, except that is not the real world at this point, which is sad.

  • @RONJON46331
    @RONJON46331 5 месяцев назад

    Can you inject GHK-Cu into muscle?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  5 месяцев назад

      Peptides are generally injected to subcutaneously. Absorption through subcutaneous injection is slower than intravenous or intramuscular injections to alllow more sustained release of the peptide into the general circulation of the body.

  • @leiladasha
    @leiladasha 5 месяцев назад

    Fruit diet will

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  5 месяцев назад

      Can you clarify your question?

  • @criticalcareeducationalsup4464
    @criticalcareeducationalsup4464 3 месяца назад

    What about cancer, is there any bioregulator?

  • @brettpower6508
    @brettpower6508 Год назад

    Dam I just ordered bp157c, was never told it causes anxiety

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      I have not seen it causing anxiety in any of my patients…

    • @banyaldoo7827
      @banyaldoo7827 Год назад +1

      I have anxiety due to leaky gut. I just ordered BPC 157 and I’m afraid to try it . I don’t want it to get worse

    • @tavhigh
      @tavhigh 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@banyaldoo7827 bpc 157 healed my gut lining. Google the effects of becoming 157.

  • @supukrish
    @supukrish Год назад +1

    what is the name of the peptide that brings thyroid to balance?

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад

      It is just called Thyroid Support on profound-health.com. Use coupon code UPLYFT15 to get 15% off your first purchase.

  • @deborahjordahl9040
    @deborahjordahl9040 8 месяцев назад

    Omg we have to stop asking permission and take these people to court

  • @deborahjordahl9040
    @deborahjordahl9040 8 месяцев назад +4

    We don’t need permission to use what our body already makes. So the powers that be have NO say

    • @dianemcconnehey9318
      @dianemcconnehey9318 3 месяца назад

      The FDA has already blocked a thymus peptide for use. Sadly you are wrong

  • @dalekirkendall5283
    @dalekirkendall5283 Год назад +1

    Try water fasting, 3 days, 5 days, or longer, once a month.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      Fasting is also quite individual… do it at a length and frequency that works for you… overdoing it can be quite unhealthy…

  • @angelatakano6072
    @angelatakano6072 3 месяца назад

    Could they be contaminated with viruses ?

  • @higherresolution4490
    @higherresolution4490 Год назад +7

    An amazing amount of potentially useful information! Much gratitude for sharing this interview with us here on RUclips.
    BPC-157 has literally been miraculous for me after rupturing two discs and tearing the iliopsoas muscles. I used the oral form. There are more I would like to introduce, for instance, thymosin beta-4, KPV, epitalon and cartilax.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +1

      Amazing! So glad to hear! And thank you so much for sharing your experience!❤️ It is an exciting frontier of medicine for sure!

    • @a.macdonald4877
      @a.macdonald4877 Год назад +2

      I'm in Canada...please can you tell me where do you get your BPC-157...my mother was floxed by Fluoroquinolone antibiotics and is having tendon tears and disc ruptures

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +2

      @@a.macdonald4877 please email me at info@uplyftcenter.com and I will provide you with a referral in Canada.

    • @a.macdonald4877
      @a.macdonald4877 Год назад +2

      @@JoyKongMD thank you, will do.

    • @jolantagrzelak5900
      @jolantagrzelak5900 Год назад +1

      Hi I would like to purchase oral peptides I am living in Canada Can you please help me to place an order Thank you Jolanta

  • @christinal.suarez1838
    @christinal.suarez1838 4 месяца назад

    Love me some Nat.

  • @carl902
    @carl902 Год назад

    The vocal tic podcast

  • @backwardog1
    @backwardog1 2 месяца назад +1

    +1 for the algo

  • @oscarwindham6016
    @oscarwindham6016 Год назад +2

    Too much deception and double speak. For instance, the question about exactly where these peptides come from was intellectually insulting in the evasion involved in answering this question. I'm out of here and when in the future the name Nathalie Niddam comes up it will time to exit, stage left.

    • @JoyKongMD
      @JoyKongMD  Год назад +3

      I am not sure what you meant… I do not perceive any deception or “double speak” as you put it… there are still a lot of things we don’t know when it comes to the new science related to peptides and bioregulators, so maybe some of the answers were not as precise and satisfying as one would like, but I do not perceive any purposeful deception. So I will have to defend my guest in this case.

    • @oscarwindham6016
      @oscarwindham6016 Год назад

      @@JoyKongMD I wasn't referring to you Dr. Kong, but to your guest when you asked her where peptides come from, she went into that long spiel about everything to do with peptides except simply saying that peptides are plant and animal based. I was thinking that peptides were similar to stem cells, and I had to visit a couple of other sites before stumbling onto the answer. Afterward, after having thought about it, I surmised that your guest answered the question the way someone would answer it who is very well versed in the subject and in a way, that is essential and relevant from a learned perspective while assuming that any "dummy" would already know that peptides are a derivative of plant and animal life. What I'm saying is that I may have been a bit over critical due to other circumstances that have angered and frustrated me and I "may" have taken it out on your guest..., maybe. Probably even. I hope you don't intend to drag an apology out of me? I'm already in a bit of a turmoil.