Ever since the buff patch, the game has been way more active again. It was never gonna go back to 500k players, but it is healthy now. Third faction has to come soon imo.
@@FairwellNoob ofcourse right now! It's a work day. If you look at the the actual dates and player count, it went from the low 4k in the weekend to 100k right after the patch! The benefit of Helldivers 2 is that in game you can see every player, not just steam. During work hours, ofcourse the player count is low 😂
@jordirapper Your statement mightve held some water if we've seen player counts rise back up on weekends, but unfortunately, all you guys do is live in a world of your own delusion What is the source of your 4k number anyways? Making it the fuck up? All the numbers are visible right there on steamdb. If you can't make an argument to save your life without using bogus data, then I should probably refrain from attempting to engage in this bad faith argument
Speaking as an HD1 Veteran. My favorite thing about this game is the lore from not just the previous games, but the ones the players create. Nobody expected this game to pop off like it did, especially with how little marketing the game got prior to release. HD2 is pretty much one giant Space DnD campaign where almost everyone gets into the roleplay as a Helldiver, i.e.: - The Malevelon Creek Arc - The Terminid Super Colonies Arc - Saving the Children's Hospital on Vernen Wells - The Synchronized Operational Network Yoke trying to force divers to have a Planetary Security Network Account - Shadow Dropping flying bugs & AT-AT Walkers while the devs gaslight people saying it's they're not real & making people think they're crazy - Creating a Super Destroyer - Everything about J.O.E.L. - Divers looking at HD1 footage & treating them like historical archives & treating us veterans like we're their grandparents. Despite the ups & downs this game has had, HD2 & Astrobot are pretty much my favorite games of this year.
yea lore is good, but when AH themselves is a joke what can you get out of it anymore. to this day they still wanna say “idk what yall wanted or needed” when we fucking begged for it. the game is amazing, but how its handled and how owns it is a joke.
@@paparoach3071have you played since the latest patch? its really good now, although I still have some complaints about certain changes which i now have confidence that they will fix in the new patch coming in two days, so I don't understand why you can't give them just a bit of faith
@@hazedrazehonestly the patches have increased the games quality by a huge margin, everyone I’ve talked to have praised the latest patches and how optimised their builds are and having more variety, honestly I’d rather they start adding small scale content but also handling the balancing and buffs first. Fix/polish up the game then adding a huge update after Just hope they don’t take too long between updates is my worry
Last night I was playing the bots (as I do), things are going crazy, I turn around to strategically withdraw to a more superior position, and there's a damn tank right there mere moments from vaporizing me. So I dive *ONTO THE TANK, CALL IN AN ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT, AND DIVE OFF THE BACK OF THE TANK AS IT BLOWS UP*. Laying on the ground, I reload my three guns, dust myself off, and get back to battle. One of the least cinematic moments of Helldivers 2 I've had. Just a regular day.
Despite its drawbacks and what amounts to studio sabotage, HD2 is still my GOTY. It has been over a decade since I had this much fun with a Co op title
I remember that Sony held out on refunds for a week or more - and it wasnt until Steam offered no-question-asked refunds for PC players that Sony finally caved and dropped the PSN requirement (for the PC game at least)
@@NedscapeI mean, Sony has seen thay Microsoft can do it do they tried it Try to play Sea of Theives on ps5 without making a Microsoft account. I can't even play it with my buddy, even though he bought it. He won't make a Microsoft account or login to one to stand on business. So why not go after Microsoft too?
I remember fighting bots yesterday, had just gotten to level 20 on a new account and wanted to try out the Railgun again, so i take it with me, about halfway through the battle i run over a hill to see a tank about to shoot a friend, so i charge the railgun to 90% and hit the vent on it's back, the tank explodes. I turn around and see 12 Berserkers standing around me, not attacking. If i move, im dead, if i reload, im dead, if i switch weapons, im dead, if i shoot, im dead, so i put in the code for an airstrike and throw it right at my feet. The airstrike goes off, my armor passive saves me from death, but the explosion launches me into, yet again, 6 Berserkers, who kill me instantly
To add to the negative mindset from players from all the nerfs were "why should I spend money/time to unlock new warbonds if they're just going to nerf the good ones in a few weeks?" I remember the bulk of the August complaints were "you nerfed fire a day before the fire themed warbond?" I was ready to walk away from the game until they turned things around. It'll never reclaim the sheer fun of the first 2 months but I'm so glad it's still kicking.
“still glad its kicking” yea barley, literally the same as its always been, reverted nerfs mean its back to normal. nothing has changed bro, get your head out your ass, seriously.
At the end, you mention the game might need to end at some point. My ideal 'end' of the game would be Arrow head releasing their server hosting and game master tools, allowing communities to host their own galactic wars on their own time
That actually sounds lovely if they ever wish to move on from Helldivers 2. Getting to host my own Galactic War is like being able to finally play an MMO scale Stellaris game.
This is why HD2 should win game of the year. It is the perfect example of how corporate publisher control negatively impacts great games and HD2 illustrates developers who understand when to fall back on their beliefs and reassess. It takes a true leader to acknowledge when they have messed up. Thank you Arrowhead for being that leader in the games industry.
@@WholeeohfThey messed up with the regards to balance and maintaining the game in those summer months. It took a reassessment and rearranging for the September and October comeback to reverse this negative tide.
Game is in a fantastic place right now. Completed multiple games in a row where we left wihh to 0 respawns and just barely peeling out a win. I loved it and never felt too difficult
Dont forget Helldivers 1 made this game as good as it is. They maintained it and refined the mechanics for years, it has a strong foundation. I think the director said in those old days, that " a game for everyone is a game for no one" so the sudden success of this game made me very happy but very concerned at the same time. Helldivers going mainstram is a double edged sword.
I have to say, I'm incredibly impressed by your upload speed for such a new channel. Very glad RUclips recommended me your channel. I've been binging it the last few days 😄
It’s a complete coincidence I stopped and started around the times the game was biggest. I got the game about a month after launch, and a couple weeks in my laptop suffered a broken SSD which stopped me from playing. I replaced the SSD and could play again about a day before the mega buff patch.
I wouldn't say Helldivers would die with a low player number. One aspect of it would (eventually will): unique events - but the gameplay will remain until the servers are shut down. Considering Helldiver 1's servers are still up, that's going to be far in the future. Also, accusing Arrowhead of releasing new warbonds in an overtuned state to make more money seems odd considering a big complaint was that they nerfed fire damage right as the fire themed warbond came out.
you did a great job with the video,... I LOVE HELLDIVERS 2!! getting close to 600+ hours now and you stuck to the facts as a genuine content creator, you have my respect for that,... liked the video, and subscribed,... keep up the good work
The moment that made this goty to me was clutching an extract with my dead buddies spectating me, Flashdance, more than a feeling was playing. I was shooting everything with the emancipator until it went down, had to play ring around the rosie with a buncha berserkers but I made it onto the shuttle. Dance songs in a war goes unfathomably hard
I bought hell divers 2 on February 15th and I played one match thought it was alr cus I played solo and didn’t touch it until two weeks after and I’ve been in love ever since
I disagree with the statement that players should go easy on AH. That was the reason nerfs got so bad because playerbase had lot goodwill for AH and they took our feedback and just ignored it for long time. Don't get me wrong I love HD2 and have played from the start and 17.9. patch felt like the start of HD2. Fun. But I personally don't trust that AH stays on the fun side until they have more patches showing that.
@@bo_h5970yeah I wish everyone was negative about everything instead of actually enjoying something and being hopeful for the future because that’s lame right?
I think it's important to note the fire damage nerf right before the release of the fire-themed warbond in the escalation of freedom. That was one of very few nerfs in that update, but the impact was immense as it looked like the devs had no idea what they were doing, on top of being the straw that broke the camel's back
i can hear THAT GUY in the company saying, "i told you so! didn't i tell you so? and what did i tell you? players gonna hate these debuffs! thats what i told you. i told you so!"
1:45 some of its former glory** we havent forgotten the lost divers of the sony subversion. HD2 is great post buffdate but its not 100% back until our brothers are returned to us
@@shoulderpyro the Active player base is not the same thing as the massive launch fueled buy hype gamers who never were going to stay longer than a month. Just like other 99% of games. The HD2 community is those who have actively dived since since + buffdivers who returned when the felt heard + those who want to play but cant bc PSN + those refusing to play in protest of PSN. Anything else is a clear misunderstanding of what a games community is.
@@aidanwj Thing is, many other games - some of them ancient (Left 4 Dead, TF2, etc) still retain 10-20% of their overall original players. Yes, TF2, that nearly 20 year old relic of the past, still has 18% of its original playerbase remaining. Its indeed natural for games to lose players, but when the best you can manage isnt even 5% of your original, you screwed up so bad its impressive. HD1 has a similar issue at 2.6% Also, the PSN thing is horribly overblown. The decay happened well before the PSN drama, and overall contributed very little. The areas that were affected were mostly countries you dont really expect to be playing. Such as all of Africa, Greenland, the Middle-East.. Not really "video-game heavy" countries.
@@williambutcher7429 Is it? All those calculations were made late last week/early this week. So its AFTER the cheaters got booted from TF2. Besides, HD has plenty of cheaters as well. They've been there since day 1.. a single look at the arcade wouldve told you as the scores all became 999999 by the end of day one. But aye, TF2 does have trading. But its also a 17 year old ancient juggernaut still chugging along. The same deal with L4D, though its a bit younger. Hells, I can do you one even worse; Return to Moria, which has been out for over a year on steam, and even longer on epic - 42.8% player retention. AFTER A YEAR. Helldivers hasnt even been out 3/4ths of a year and dropped below 5%.
I was there for the launch, but dropped off after 2-3 months when all my friends left because of the nerfs... I went back the day of the Giga-update but all that lore about the black hole and the gas towers was news to me! Super interresting and well made video, thanks!!!
This game is so immersive that I randomly hear what sounds like an automaton and I’ve wanted to dive IRL. I think I sometimes see things during bug missions like those scout walkers. As you can see, I play mostly against the bots.
This game is what made me get my first PC. I probably could have got another 5 years with my day one Xbox one and been just happy. But then this dropped in February and I CRAVED it. Finally last month in September just after the update, I got my first computer and this is all it's been used for. I got my friends who played it on release to come back and stay hack. I freaking love this game.
Good video but I think you should have mentioned Freedoms Flame. I saw the lowest player count online during that time and it was directly because of the fire nerf. It lost a lot of player hope when they prenerffed a fire themed warbond.
Developer's should never nerd, nor keep pushing ideas based off what they think. It should always be based off what's fun, what makes the escapism engrossing, and cherishing people who get ahead or break what was intended. BG3 is a golden example.
Im still surprised they managed to turn things around. After the nerfs and problems started with the march 6th patch, i kept giving them the benefit of the doubt and still playing, shifting my strategy with every weapon lost to nerfs, until escalation of freedom, when they killed my precious flamethrower. That was the last straw for me. So I stopped playing, but kept watching the devs activity in the hope that they would get the point. And for the first time I've ever seen in my years of gaming, *they did.* they fully denerfed everything, and buffed some things even further! Railgun is back, arcthrower is back, flamethrower is back, breaker is back, you name it! The game feels so much better now. it was a MIRACLE.
Helldivers 1 was my go-to adrenaline rush on PSVita when it launched and a Starship troopers nostalgia trip. I had such fun with friends and solo runs. That did not require being online all the time. I hate not feeling like I OWN a game. And since I have no friends I'd play this solo but seeing how things are, makes me give it a WIDE BERTH despite how awesome it is.
6:35 These "soldiers" are, canonically, overly zealous ladies and dudes who've received less than 15 minutes of military training before being snap frozen, then thawed out moments before (usually) being shot down to the surface in the middle of a chaotic, pitched battle. I love how unhinged that is.
I’m pretty sure that’s not true. Weren’t Helldivers were SEAF soldiers before becoming helldivers? Also I thought the in game tutorial was just the final test for them to officially become Helldivers.
Given the population density of most planets in the galaxy, more likely than not, they are just clones produced en mass. The 15 min of "training" is likely an automated system to make sure the clones have few enough bugs to be sufficient for their job. This also fits neatly into the world, where the democracy officer on every destroyer is the true captain and is there to make sure the clones don't get out of hand.
Maybe some of them, but the in game dialogueb+ canon advertisements implies that a majority of recruits are really young, like an average age of 18.7 - that means there are older people, but also people younger than 18. There's also a line about SEAF training taking 72 hours- not nearly enough to prepare for the warfront. And sure, there's an overzealous gun culture, but most people don't ever get the chance to fire on a real creature- think the Yellowstone park ad(how many people would be allowed to hunt? Only a few very rich) So, we can assume the SEAF training is stuff like how to use a pod, operate a gun, walkie talkies, protocols and lingo.(They wouldn't be able to actually deeply teach skills during that 72 hours)- and the fact that the last test is so easy, but there are a ton of corpses implies most aren't the brightest bunch.
@@phoenixnight9237 I’ve heard that 72 hours thing too but I don’t know where it comes from. But that does sorta make sense. Still, the helldivers aren’t completely untrained idiots. They are absolutely crazy though
"Versatile weapons shouldn't be too powerful and powerful weapons shouldn't be too versatile." And then there was the Autocannon. A weapon that worked on both fronts and on everything from the smallest trash mob to Chargers, Tanks, Factory Striders and what AH thought was the gold standard of balance yet would nerf anything that came close to the autocannon's usefulness.
I played at the start and I play in end. I remember waiting in the title screen because the servers were full and being happy after I finally got in😂 I love this game but I took a break and now I have returned after the new buff everything update .
May 2024 was a hellva time for Helldivers 2. I am proud to be a part of this community and grateful to fight alongside our noble brothers and sisters of Super Earth. I hope we can continue this fight for months to come o7 - SES Courier of Conquest (AKA: SES CoC) Skull Admiral Explosive Devil.
I remember the February praise. I couldn’t stop hearing about this game, my best friend was trying to force feed me democracy, and I was unable to buy the game. However, in late June, the SES Shield of the Constitution joined the fight for democracy. I’m very proud to be here during the construction of the DSS and recovery of the game.
My suggestion for nerfing weapons; let the playerbase choose what weapons get nerfed by having the 'production facilities' for the weapons be attacked by the enemy forces. The production facilities that aren't defended result in the weapons getting nerfed due to 'low quality resource' a 'loss of production machinery', or a loss of product quality testers. That way, the loss of weapons ties into the lack of battle ground action, and the development of the 'new' weapons is because they are creating weapons from the resources available.
I also think it helps that helldivers is a game that you can work your full day and then unwind without the stress of playing against other people who play way more than you. you can jump in and out with absolutely no consequence and you even get rewards for things you weren't participating in at the time.
They should bring it to xbox and when that happens, introduce the new enemy faction. You will have a whole new console base playing and a whole new faction. The biggest addition since launch. THAT will blow it up again. Idk what kind of thing they have with sony. But hopefully uts just a 1 year contract.
HD2 is a summary of everything i allways wanted in a game... I used to play Planetside2 for a lot of time but since Helldivers 2 dropped i cant stop diving
@@dyroth Sadly no... We were having a big problem with hackers the last time i tried PS2 and Daybreak wasnt doing anything about it, couple of weeks later i started in Helldivers 2 so cant really say how Planetside 2 is rn :/
Just got back into the game since the first month of launch. Im addicted all over again. Just damn good video game co op fun that other games just dont make anymore
I have a theory. I think Sony might have forced AH to implement shitty decisions to force us to switch to Concorde. Now that game died, suddenly AH started implementing liked updates.
god, what a gem of a game helldivers 2 is. arrowhead really saw call of duty, fortnite, siege, and more raking in the dough with shitty FOMO-abusing item shops, battle passes, and more, and said "nah, i'ma do my own thing"
Definitely had a lot of peak gaming moments. Calling an incendiary mine strategem and stuck the beacon to a teammate killing him. Then calling his reinforcement and accidentally putting it in the middle of said mine field.
The PC PSN issue was also about PSN accounts being insecure and compromised in the past, and if I recall correctly Sony reserved the right to let AI listen to our voice chat to ban people based on speech
The gun buff patch made my friends and I comeback. It really felt like we could only use 2-3 guns at higher levels and we like high difficulty missions because they are fulfilling. After a month it just felt like rinse and repeat so we stopped playing a ton during the summer. Now we can go into any mission difficulty with any gun and have fun. Now there are clearly better guns but so many went from completely useless to efficient if loadout is built around it.
Fyi Sony still yet fix their mess. Because they noticed they can’t get everyone to do PSN, they threw the towel let PC player somewhat win by not login to PSN but they outright got rid of helldiver from stores in countries where there is no PSN. It’s like saying “If I can have my way you can’t either” Extremely immature and unprofessional.
The release was beautiful, buggy, half hour server queues, getting booted in the middle, but man, was it so fun being in the middle of a zeitgeist like this, so so fun
I'm at 515 hours of gameplay in HD2 and I haven't enjoyed a co-op game like this for years. It was a bit rough for a while with the excessive nerfs, but they've more than made up for that with the recent 60 day patch. Primaries feel amazing now.
I love the new riffle, the constitutional, because I can use it really well in the way I love to play. Many people want it to have more damage, but I can already snipe bugs and bots very easy.
great video brother, felt great to revisit the road to where we are now. As these problems grew, I still loved the game but I found myself wanting to play it less and less, coming back for a weekend and then leaving again for longer periods until I took a 2 month break after the Escalation of Freedom update. You covered the most important points imo, but I wish you had added the Freedom's Flame warbond element of that big update because it encapsulated the backwards nature of what was killing the game for many. How do you bring in a flame-based warbond and then nerf fire? It doesn't even make business sense lol. The updates and patches within the 60 day plan have slowly brought me back and were much needed. It still has an air of sadness for such a beautiful initial experience we had that can't be replicated again, but I find myself wanting to drop in randomly more and more again. I enjoyed the first big update in the plan but that feeling of loss made me step back. Now its even better and I'm ready to deliver freedom! This game hit me at a time where I finally built my first gaming PC and spent many years not gaming at all cuz I didn't have the hardware or time to focus on it. And its actually the first co-op or live service game I've ever played so it was a great way to get into a gaming community and gaming as a whole. I don't really know what to think of the DSS but hopefully it brings some more engagement, and I think the day we get a new faction will be pivotal for returning player excitement anywhere close to its initial high. Hopefully when that happens it goes smoothly as possible as well and duznt bring a shit load of other problems.
Crazy watching this for the first time after the buffdivers patch. Great video summing things up. Earned a sub; I make HD2 shorts and love the content variety on YT
I logged out from the game since the patch they remove Eruptor's shrapnels, rendering almost every guns into a nerf gun. The choices were limited during the time: Scorcher for bots and Incendiary Breaker for bugs. no second better/fun options. Now you can see everybody just grab their favorite gun, for sure some guns are still having better performance but more options viable, you can now consider play in a different way, and achieve goals just a little bit slower
I can't go easy on the developers. They messed up far too much to trust them fully. They have a lot of buffing to do if they want people to go easy on them. I don't want this game to be super easy no, people just want consistency, and they simply haven't been delivering on that.
I remember the time helldivers 2 came out, not because I played it, but because Steams Servers where so overloaded, that project zomboid servers would just die at times
I first started the game in May, and it was fun at the time, but I could tell there was some stuff up with this game at the time. And it was a wild time. I stopped playing when the nerfs got crazy and when the new patch got announced I got back into the game and was hyped for the new patch. I was glad the new patch superceded my expectations, and then the next patch, our current patch, at this point in time, is great as well.
@@dramat123 Call of Duty is very not dead, its player count is gigantic, it just fucking sucks now, and is overhyped every year and every year people say “Cod is finally back” and the game releases and it’s a shitty nightmare of casino matchmaking and teletubbies and furry skins running around with a huge hacker problem and shit maps.
@@mrmirchiTheCodGuy yea ik its overhyped it always was at least for last 7 years and nothing changed in this game and actually everything got worse so yea its garbage but ofc there is a lot of players and not gigantic but a lot and they just dont know other games so i dont blame them they just dont know
I started playing the game because of starship troopers being one of my favorite movie and I felt like I was in it. But aside from that I fell in love with the game and even in the rough times I kept playing it and it makes me very happy more people get to enjoy it. I love the community and the friendly fire makes the game so much fun. I gifted the game to about 8 people and they all loved it 😊 hope we get more democracy for the years to come.
Helldivers 2 really just capitalized on what has proven with many recent hits to be the core of a good game, fun gameplay that a community can be built around. It was the community that let us push back against Sony, and use our power of DEMOCRACY to make what we do and don’t want happen. Also, personally I think a 20-50k player count is fine for helldivers. Ultimately, that’s the player count the dev team and Sony were looking for, not 200-500k. It’s great to see such higher numbers, but as the devs have made clear, games shouldn’t be for everyone, and so we’ve simply been seeing the numbers get closer to who the game is actually for.
I played it a lot in the beginning a lot less after the nerfs and now I play it steadily. It is a fun game that I can play anytime without any competitive ambitions. Because of that I can play it with my brother who I don't see as often as I'd like since he lives far away and has a lot to do with family and stuff. Perfect game for what it is.
Good video, but there are a few things I’d like to add. The Sony drama was because people thought connecting to PSN was optional but then out of nowhere it wasn’t (AH, Sony, & Steam are all to blame), additionally some countries didn’t have PSN. A lot of games now have the option to or require connecting an account but no one is complaining. The problem with balancing & meta wasn’t because things that people liked got nerfed, it was because if something was usable (not even strong or OP just usable) people would use that then it would get nerfed because of higher pick rates.
My biggest gripe for me is the fact that the base machine gun IS the one size fits all gun. It's the only one that's both fun to use and effective. What's the point of all the extra guns if they are all worse than the base standard option?
So there has been the long wait for the illuminate to arrive, but I just thought of something even cooler to prolong the game’s life: an expantion to the map beyond the galaxy. Once we push every enemy out of our galaxy, the devs could expand the map, allowing us to fight them on new planets we’ve never seen before with completely different biomes, enemies, maybe small amounts of the Cyborgs from the first game, ect.
The 15th going to be great. Also can't wait for liberty day. My only complaint right now is that the enemies do a ton of damage and almost instantly break your limbs. If we could just tank two or three more shots from a trooper or slashes from a warrior it would be way better
Ever since the buff patch, the game has been way more active again. It was never gonna go back to 500k players, but it is healthy now. Third faction has to come soon imo.
Facts
There's only a 6k difference in players right now between the 24h player peak from before the update and today, lol
@@FairwellNoob ofcourse right now! It's a work day. If you look at the the actual dates and player count, it went from the low 4k in the weekend to 100k right after the patch! The benefit of Helldivers 2 is that in game you can see every player, not just steam. During work hours, ofcourse the player count is low 😂
@jordirapper Your statement mightve held some water if we've seen player counts rise back up on weekends, but unfortunately, all you guys do is live in a world of your own delusion
What is the source of your 4k number anyways? Making it the fuck up? All the numbers are visible right there on steamdb. If you can't make an argument to save your life without using bogus data, then I should probably refrain from attempting to engage in this bad faith argument
It might have a chance of that if Sony let everyone play again.
I’m a husband and Father of 3 with a demanding physical job. I get up at 4 am just to play this game. That’s how much I love it.
Massive respect 🫡
C01 permit?
You legend
Same here brother, player base is very international at 4am
Same here lol
Speaking as an HD1 Veteran. My favorite thing about this game is the lore from not just the previous games, but the ones the players create. Nobody expected this game to pop off like it did, especially with how little marketing the game got prior to release. HD2 is pretty much one giant Space DnD campaign where almost everyone gets into the roleplay as a Helldiver, i.e.:
- The Malevelon Creek Arc
- The Terminid Super Colonies Arc
- Saving the Children's Hospital on Vernen Wells
- The Synchronized Operational Network Yoke trying to force divers to have a Planetary Security Network Account
- Shadow Dropping flying bugs & AT-AT Walkers while the devs gaslight people saying it's they're not real & making people think they're crazy
- Creating a Super Destroyer
- Everything about J.O.E.L.
- Divers looking at HD1 footage & treating them like historical archives & treating us veterans like we're their grandparents.
Despite the ups & downs this game has had, HD2 & Astrobot are pretty much my favorite games of this year.
yea lore is good, but when AH themselves is a joke what can you get out of it anymore. to this day they still wanna say “idk what yall wanted or needed” when we fucking begged for it. the game is amazing, but how its handled and how owns it is a joke.
@@paparoach3071have you played since the latest patch? its really good now, although I still have some complaints about certain changes which i now have confidence that they will fix in the new patch coming in two days, so I don't understand why you can't give them just a bit of faith
@@hazedrazehonestly the patches have increased the games quality by a huge margin, everyone I’ve talked to have praised the latest patches and how optimised their builds are and having more variety, honestly I’d rather they start adding small scale content but also handling the balancing and buffs first. Fix/polish up the game then adding a huge update after
Just hope they don’t take too long between updates is my worry
There was so much more teamwork in hd1. Mainly because it was forced, but I still can't decide which game is better.
Last night I was playing the bots (as I do), things are going crazy, I turn around to strategically withdraw to a more superior position, and there's a damn tank right there mere moments from vaporizing me. So I dive *ONTO THE TANK, CALL IN AN ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT, AND DIVE OFF THE BACK OF THE TANK AS IT BLOWS UP*. Laying on the ground, I reload my three guns, dust myself off, and get back to battle.
One of the least cinematic moments of Helldivers 2 I've had. Just a regular day.
Democratic af my dude
General Brasch would be proud of your bravery, Helldiver!
Love it!!!!
Remember, October 26th is Liberty Day. It would be a massive missed opportunity if nothing big happens around that time
The DSS will be complete by then, I’d say it’s incredibly likely. Lot of weapon-armor drops may also be in the works
The squids will probably arrive on Liberty Day
The fun part is that's my birthday!!
There’s always an occasion every Liberty day even during Helldivers 1
@@unamless9229thats very democratic!
You forgot to mention when we wiped all the bots off the galactic map for them to just show back up 4 days later.
Somehow the Automatons returned.
That was depressing. You can't win or lose. It's just a cyclical grind that goes on forever.
@JS-kr8fs tbf the game left a few hints that the bots would return. Hell I'm not too surprised considering the illuminate haven't dropped.
Were you really expecting half the game to just disappear forever?
@HiIeric117 no, but I expected a different faction to take its place.
Despite its drawbacks and what amounts to studio sabotage, HD2 is still my GOTY. It has been over a decade since I had this much fun with a Co op title
You should try out Deep Rock Galactic. You might like it aswell
@@Ben-ew9eu and a better, player-friendly dev team on top of it
@@Ben-ew9euhonestly the similarities end at shooting bugs in space, other than that completely different games
@@ItHamBoi agreed, drg is superior in every conceivable way
@@Ben-ew9eucap
I remember that Sony held out on refunds for a week or more - and it wasnt until Steam offered no-question-asked refunds for PC players that Sony finally caved and dropped the PSN requirement (for the PC game at least)
This whole PSN thing has really made me hate sony. Before they pulled that crap I didn't think good or bad of them.
@@NedscapeI mean, Sony has seen thay Microsoft can do it do they tried it
Try to play Sea of Theives on ps5 without making a Microsoft account. I can't even play it with my buddy, even though he bought it. He won't make a Microsoft account or login to one to stand on business.
So why not go after Microsoft too?
@@FezTheMooseCause Microsoft is just superior. That's why 😂😂
That, and I hate Sony products.
@@Vase94 like Microsoft more, doesn't change the fact that mfs look whack in my eyes.
@@FezTheMoose Microsoft does it straight up unlike Sony. People wouldn't be so mad if the PSN was mandatory from the get go
I remember fighting bots yesterday, had just gotten to level 20 on a new account and wanted to try out the Railgun again, so i take it with me, about halfway through the battle i run over a hill to see a tank about to shoot a friend, so i charge the railgun to 90% and hit the vent on it's back, the tank explodes. I turn around and see 12 Berserkers standing around me, not attacking. If i move, im dead, if i reload, im dead, if i switch weapons, im dead, if i shoot, im dead, so i put in the code for an airstrike and throw it right at my feet. The airstrike goes off, my armor passive saves me from death, but the explosion launches me into, yet again, 6 Berserkers, who kill me instantly
Loony tunes sketch 😂
The Berserker spam is unreal bro
To add to the negative mindset from players from all the nerfs were "why should I spend money/time to unlock new warbonds if they're just going to nerf the good ones in a few weeks?" I remember the bulk of the August complaints were "you nerfed fire a day before the fire themed warbond?" I was ready to walk away from the game until they turned things around. It'll never reclaim the sheer fun of the first 2 months but I'm so glad it's still kicking.
“still glad its kicking” yea barley, literally the same as its always been, reverted nerfs mean its back to normal. nothing has changed bro, get your head out your ass, seriously.
@@paparoach3071 Aww, did some fail their math test?
@@paparoach3071good god. For someone who acts like they don’t care about the game you sure do spend a lot of time bitching and complaining
@@paparoach3071i dont understand how bad people are that they complain about nerfs in a pve game lmao
@@Badmunky64 wow what an amazing response, you got me
Helldivers is the game that sold me on pc gaming, I’ve been on Xbox for ages but only recently started saving and built a pc so I can play it
Don't forget a pc can also emulate all the old gaming consoles. Sadly them prices are very high for GPUs nowadays.
@@johngray3449 oh yeah, I’m aware of that thank you. There’s so much stuff that I can’t do which just wasn’t possible on console, it’s very nice.
Sammmmmee
I stopped playing games on pc/desktop and was playing only in VR....until helldivers 2 came out...back to desktop since then😂😂😂 true fan of the game
Consoles are dead
At the end, you mention the game might need to end at some point. My ideal 'end' of the game would be Arrow head releasing their server hosting and game master tools, allowing communities to host their own galactic wars on their own time
That actually sounds lovely if they ever wish to move on from Helldivers 2.
Getting to host my own Galactic War is like being able to finally play an MMO scale Stellaris game.
Seeing Helldivers 1 is still alive and kicking since 2015., I think HD2 will be around for some time.
Crazy to be talking about the end of the game when it’s been less than a year
This is why HD2 should win game of the year. It is the perfect example of how corporate publisher control negatively impacts great games and HD2 illustrates developers who understand when to fall back on their beliefs and reassess. It takes a true leader to acknowledge when they have messed up. Thank you Arrowhead for being that leader in the games industry.
How did they messed up? If anything it’s the hell bent players that ruin the game
@@WholeeohfThey messed up with the regards to balance and maintaining the game in those summer months. It took a reassessment and rearranging for the September and October comeback to reverse this negative tide.
300+ hrs in the game, played this morning, definitely as fun as the first time I dived
Game is in a fantastic place right now. Completed multiple games in a row where we left wihh to 0 respawns and just barely peeling out a win. I loved it and never felt too difficult
What difficulty where you playing on
How dedicated of a diver are you?
Me: The Creek stands! Spill oil!
Dont forget Helldivers 1 made this game as good as it is. They maintained it and refined the mechanics for years, it has a strong foundation. I think the director said in those old days, that " a game for everyone is a game for no one" so the sudden success of this game made me very happy but very concerned at the same time. Helldivers going mainstram is a double edged sword.
I have to say, I'm incredibly impressed by your upload speed for such a new channel. Very glad RUclips recommended me your channel. I've been binging it the last few days 😄
Great video, since I had no time playing Helldivers, that's exactly what I needed, after returning to it and suddenly seeing a massive black hole
And now, we've just had the Illuminate added along with urban maps and a vehicle...we are so fucking back baby!
It’s a complete coincidence I stopped and started around the times the game was biggest. I got the game about a month after launch, and a couple weeks in my laptop suffered a broken SSD which stopped me from playing. I replaced the SSD and could play again about a day before the mega buff patch.
I wouldn't say Helldivers would die with a low player number. One aspect of it would (eventually will): unique events - but the gameplay will remain until the servers are shut down. Considering Helldiver 1's servers are still up, that's going to be far in the future.
Also, accusing Arrowhead of releasing new warbonds in an overtuned state to make more money seems odd considering a big complaint was that they nerfed fire damage right as the fire themed warbond came out.
you did a great job with the video,... I LOVE HELLDIVERS 2!! getting close to 600+ hours now and you stuck to the facts as a genuine content creator, you have my respect for that,... liked the video, and subscribed,... keep up the good work
19:40 Hold up: Meridia was lost from the get go of the MO.. The other three planets got their TCS shut down successfully.
The moment that made this goty to me was clutching an extract with my dead buddies spectating me, Flashdance, more than a feeling was playing. I was shooting everything with the emancipator until it went down, had to play ring around the rosie with a buncha berserkers but I made it onto the shuttle. Dance songs in a war goes unfathomably hard
We are so back, its great again. Hopefully they keep it that way now.
I bought hell divers 2 on February 15th and I played one match thought it was alr cus I played solo and didn’t touch it until two weeks after and I’ve been in love ever since
I had the same thing but I got it in early March, and I stopped playing for like a month and a half.
If they release the Illuminate by the end of this year the player base will go back to 500k
I recently did my first lvl 7 mission. I was not expecting 4 hulk to spawn on top of each other😅
I disagree with the statement that players should go easy on AH. That was the reason nerfs got so bad because playerbase had lot goodwill for AH and they took our feedback and just ignored it for long time. Don't get me wrong I love HD2 and have played from the start and 17.9. patch felt like the start of HD2. Fun. But I personally don't trust that AH stays on the fun side until they have more patches showing that.
I wish everyone had your mindset
You aren't wrong. There is a lot of sugar coating in this video. And Arrowhead excusing. It was much more annoying as it went on.
@@bo_h5970yeah I wish everyone was negative about everything instead of actually enjoying something and being hopeful for the future because that’s lame right?
Agreed - going easy on people makes them weak, lax, lazy, complacent. It's just nature.
We need to keep on them.
@@sir_genericname4781 That's not what's being said and you know it - bad faith actor.
it’s like the only live service game that gave me ups and downs but tries to be better while other live service games just keep going down
We peaked when we saved the kids 💪🏻
I think it's important to note the fire damage nerf right before the release of the fire-themed warbond in the escalation of freedom. That was one of very few nerfs in that update, but the impact was immense as it looked like the devs had no idea what they were doing, on top of being the straw that broke the camel's back
HD2 is the reason why I’ve been making upgrades to my PC. Only this game has made me want to optimise my specs to get the best out of it.
Proper Democracy spreading needs the right tools! o7
kind of insane how pretty this game is, i am doing the same now gonna upgrade a bit :)
My birthday is feb 8th, i preordered helldivers 2 and it was the best present i have ever received.
i can hear THAT GUY in the company saying, "i told you so! didn't i tell you so? and what did i tell you? players gonna hate these debuffs! thats what i told you. i told you so!"
For fucks sakes, Carl! We know! We even gave you a plaque!
i am listening to this while playing Helldivers 2 right now. God i love this game. FOR SUPER EARTH!!!!
1:45 some of its former glory** we havent forgotten the lost divers of the sony subversion. HD2 is great post buffdate but its not 100% back until our brothers are returned to us
game's at less than 5% of its playerbase. 4.2% to be exact, AFTER the buff patch. Not exactly a great number.
@@shoulderpyro the Active player base is not the same thing as the massive launch fueled buy hype gamers who never were going to stay longer than a month. Just like other 99% of games. The HD2 community is those who have actively dived since since + buffdivers who returned when the felt heard + those who want to play but cant bc PSN + those refusing to play in protest of PSN. Anything else is a clear misunderstanding of what a games community is.
@@aidanwj Thing is, many other games - some of them ancient (Left 4 Dead, TF2, etc) still retain 10-20% of their overall original players. Yes, TF2, that nearly 20 year old relic of the past, still has 18% of its original playerbase remaining.
Its indeed natural for games to lose players, but when the best you can manage isnt even 5% of your original, you screwed up so bad its impressive. HD1 has a similar issue at 2.6%
Also, the PSN thing is horribly overblown. The decay happened well before the PSN drama, and overall contributed very little. The areas that were affected were mostly countries you dont really expect to be playing. Such as all of Africa, Greenland, the Middle-East.. Not really "video-game heavy" countries.
@@shoulderpyrotf2 is a really bad example because of the trading, training and cheater bots (though cheaters have heavily declined)
@@williambutcher7429 Is it? All those calculations were made late last week/early this week. So its AFTER the cheaters got booted from TF2.
Besides, HD has plenty of cheaters as well. They've been there since day 1.. a single look at the arcade wouldve told you as the scores all became 999999 by the end of day one. But aye, TF2 does have trading. But its also a 17 year old ancient juggernaut still chugging along. The same deal with L4D, though its a bit younger. Hells, I can do you one even worse;
Return to Moria, which has been out for over a year on steam, and even longer on epic - 42.8% player retention. AFTER A YEAR. Helldivers hasnt even been out 3/4ths of a year and dropped below 5%.
as a HD1 veteran, i was a little underwhelmed with HD2, but MAN has it grown on me so much more since the buffs came out. FOR SUPER EARTH
October 26th is my born day… as someone who played the OG HD… I expect some cool things on that day to lift my spirits.
I was there for the launch, but dropped off after 2-3 months when all my friends left because of the nerfs... I went back the day of the Giga-update but all that lore about the black hole and the gas towers was news to me! Super interresting and well made video, thanks!!!
Darn you should have waited a couple days more, Because this newest update is also freaking fantastic
This game is so immersive that I randomly hear what sounds like an automaton and I’ve wanted to dive IRL. I think I sometimes see things during bug missions like those scout walkers. As you can see, I play mostly against the bots.
This game is what made me get my first PC. I probably could have got another 5 years with my day one Xbox one and been just happy. But then this dropped in February and I CRAVED it.
Finally last month in September just after the update, I got my first computer and this is all it's been used for. I got my friends who played it on release to come back and stay hack. I freaking love this game.
Good video but I think you should have mentioned Freedoms Flame. I saw the lowest player count online during that time and it was directly because of the fire nerf. It lost a lot of player hope when they prenerffed a fire themed warbond.
Developer's should never nerd, nor keep pushing ideas based off what they think. It should always be based off what's fun, what makes the escapism engrossing, and cherishing people who get ahead or break what was intended. BG3 is a golden example.
i’m so impressed with this game, i never thought a multiplayer game would be my goty but helldivers 2 is just pure fun and i can’t get enough of it
Im still surprised they managed to turn things around. After the nerfs and problems started with the march 6th patch, i kept giving them the benefit of the doubt and still playing, shifting my strategy with every weapon lost to nerfs, until escalation of freedom, when they killed my precious flamethrower. That was the last straw for me. So I stopped playing, but kept watching the devs activity in the hope that they would get the point. And for the first time I've ever seen in my years of gaming, *they did.* they fully denerfed everything, and buffed some things even further! Railgun is back, arcthrower is back, flamethrower is back, breaker is back, you name it! The game feels so much better now. it was a MIRACLE.
Helldivers 1 was my go-to adrenaline rush on PSVita when it launched and a Starship troopers nostalgia trip. I had such fun with friends and solo runs. That did not require being online all the time.
I hate not feeling like I OWN a game. And since I have no friends I'd play this solo but seeing how things are, makes me give it a WIDE BERTH despite how awesome it is.
6:35 These "soldiers" are, canonically, overly zealous ladies and dudes who've received less than 15 minutes of military training before being snap frozen, then thawed out moments before (usually) being shot down to the surface in the middle of a chaotic, pitched battle. I love how unhinged that is.
I’m pretty sure that’s not true. Weren’t Helldivers were SEAF soldiers before becoming helldivers? Also I thought the in game tutorial was just the final test for them to officially become Helldivers.
Given the population density of most planets in the galaxy, more likely than not, they are just clones produced en mass. The 15 min of "training" is likely an automated system to make sure the clones have few enough bugs to be sufficient for their job. This also fits neatly into the world, where the democracy officer on every destroyer is the true captain and is there to make sure the clones don't get out of hand.
Maybe some of them, but the in game dialogueb+ canon advertisements implies that a majority of recruits are really young, like an average age of 18.7
- that means there are older people, but also people younger than 18.
There's also a line about SEAF training taking 72 hours- not nearly enough to prepare for the warfront. And sure, there's an overzealous gun culture, but most people don't ever get the chance to fire on a real creature- think the Yellowstone park ad(how many people would be allowed to hunt? Only a few very rich)
So, we can assume the SEAF training is stuff like how to use a pod, operate a gun, walkie talkies, protocols and lingo.(They wouldn't be able to actually deeply teach skills during that 72 hours)- and the fact that the last test is so easy, but there are a ton of corpses implies most aren't the brightest bunch.
My head cannon is that those 72 hours of SEAF training is like an OSHA safety course you cheese, flip through, then forget about .
@@phoenixnight9237 I’ve heard that 72 hours thing too but I don’t know where it comes from. But that does sorta make sense. Still, the helldivers aren’t completely untrained idiots. They are absolutely crazy though
Took me a while to finally get into the game, but now I can't stop. Game's fun. I'm thinking about playing it right now.
"Versatile weapons shouldn't be too powerful and powerful weapons shouldn't be too versatile."
And then there was the Autocannon. A weapon that worked on both fronts and on everything from the smallest trash mob to Chargers, Tanks, Factory Striders and what AH thought was the gold standard of balance yet would nerf anything that came close to the autocannon's usefulness.
I played at the start and I play in end. I remember waiting in the title screen because the servers were full and being happy after I finally got in😂
I love this game but I took a break and now I have returned after the new buff everything update .
May 2024 was a hellva time for Helldivers 2.
I am proud to be a part of this community and grateful to fight alongside our noble brothers and sisters of Super Earth. I hope we can continue this fight for months to come o7
- SES Courier of Conquest (AKA: SES CoC) Skull Admiral Explosive Devil.
SES Clash of Clans
I remember the February praise. I couldn’t stop hearing about this game, my best friend was trying to force feed me democracy, and I was unable to buy the game. However, in late June, the SES Shield of the Constitution joined the fight for democracy. I’m very proud to be here during the construction of the DSS and recovery of the game.
I loved the game at the beginning of the year and 300+ hours later, I'm still dropping into hell. Let's see what Arrowhead can do in another year!
My suggestion for nerfing weapons; let the playerbase choose what weapons get nerfed by having the 'production facilities' for the weapons be attacked by the enemy forces. The production facilities that aren't defended result in the weapons getting nerfed due to 'low quality resource' a 'loss of production machinery', or a loss of product quality testers.
That way, the loss of weapons ties into the lack of battle ground action, and the development of the 'new' weapons is because they are creating weapons from the resources available.
I also think it helps that helldivers is a game that you can work your full day and then unwind without the stress of playing against other people who play way more than you. you can jump in and out with absolutely no consequence and you even get rewards for things you weren't participating in at the time.
They should bring it to xbox and when that happens, introduce the new enemy faction. You will have a whole new console base playing and a whole new faction. The biggest addition since launch. THAT will blow it up again. Idk what kind of thing they have with sony. But hopefully uts just a 1 year contract.
As a player that been playing since day one its still been
" my go to game " hopefully that doesn't change
HD2 is a summary of everything i allways wanted in a game... I used to play Planetside2 for a lot of time but since Helldivers 2 dropped i cant stop diving
is that game still good? played it like 10 years ago and when i tried getting back into it on pc it felt like i had no idea what was happening
@@dyroth Sadly no... We were having a big problem with hackers the last time i tried PS2 and Daybreak wasnt doing anything about it, couple of weeks later i started in Helldivers 2 so cant really say how Planetside 2 is rn :/
@@Bullk1996 thats so sad to hear :( had wanted to get back into it for such a long time
Would love more immersion and RP. Such as radio chatter or different patrolling animations and settings or character replies like in battlefield
Just got back into the game since the first month of launch. Im addicted all over again. Just damn good video game co op fun that other games just dont make anymore
I have a theory. I think Sony might have forced AH to implement shitty decisions to force us to switch to Concorde. Now that game died, suddenly AH started implementing liked updates.
-50000000 IQ idea
I haven't had fun playing an online coop shooter like this since Killing Floor 2
god, what a gem of a game helldivers 2 is. arrowhead really saw call of duty, fortnite, siege, and more raking in the dough with shitty FOMO-abusing item shops, battle passes, and more, and said "nah, i'ma do my own thing"
Definitely had a lot of peak gaming moments. Calling an incendiary mine strategem and stuck the beacon to a teammate killing him. Then calling his reinforcement and accidentally putting it in the middle of said mine field.
I’m new to the game but it’s absolutely wild. I like learning about the history because it was clearly super chaotic at launch
The PC PSN issue was also about PSN accounts being insecure and compromised in the past, and if I recall correctly Sony reserved the right to let AI listen to our voice chat to ban people based on speech
Amazing vlog. This is history!
The gun buff patch made my friends and I comeback. It really felt like we could only use 2-3 guns at higher levels and we like high difficulty missions because they are fulfilling. After a month it just felt like rinse and repeat so we stopped playing a ton during the summer. Now we can go into any mission difficulty with any gun and have fun. Now there are clearly better guns but so many went from completely useless to efficient if loadout is built around it.
ROCK AND STONE!
Wrong game but who cares
For the Emperor!
Fyi Sony still yet fix their mess. Because they noticed they can’t get everyone to do PSN, they threw the towel let PC player somewhat win by not login to PSN but they outright got rid of helldiver from stores in countries where there is no PSN. It’s like saying “If I can have my way you can’t either” Extremely immature and unprofessional.
Helldivers 2 is like Lamine Yamal, blasting from the start, with complications, but still amazing
The release was beautiful, buggy, half hour server queues, getting booted in the middle, but man, was it so fun being in the middle of a zeitgeist like this, so so fun
I'm at 515 hours of gameplay in HD2 and I haven't enjoyed a co-op game like this for years. It was a bit rough for a while with the excessive nerfs, but they've more than made up for that with the recent 60 day patch. Primaries feel amazing now.
I love the new riffle, the constitutional, because I can use it really well in the way I love to play. Many people want it to have more damage, but I can already snipe bugs and bots very easy.
great video brother, felt great to revisit the road to where we are now. As these problems grew, I still loved the game but I found myself wanting to play it less and less, coming back for a weekend and then leaving again for longer periods until I took a 2 month break after the Escalation of Freedom update. You covered the most important points imo, but I wish you had added the Freedom's Flame warbond element of that big update because it encapsulated the backwards nature of what was killing the game for many. How do you bring in a flame-based warbond and then nerf fire? It doesn't even make business sense lol.
The updates and patches within the 60 day plan have slowly brought me back and were much needed. It still has an air of sadness for such a beautiful initial experience we had that can't be replicated again, but I find myself wanting to drop in randomly more and more again. I enjoyed the first big update in the plan but that feeling of loss made me step back. Now its even better and I'm ready to deliver freedom!
This game hit me at a time where I finally built my first gaming PC and spent many years not gaming at all cuz I didn't have the hardware or time to focus on it. And its actually the first co-op or live service game I've ever played so it was a great way to get into a gaming community and gaming as a whole. I don't really know what to think of the DSS but hopefully it brings some more engagement, and I think the day we get a new faction will be pivotal for returning player excitement anywhere close to its initial high. Hopefully when that happens it goes smoothly as possible as well and duznt bring a shit load of other problems.
Crazy watching this for the first time after the buffdivers patch. Great video summing things up. Earned a sub; I make HD2 shorts and love the content variety on YT
But the game is still unavailable for purchase in the countries that don’t have PSN
I logged out from the game since the patch they remove Eruptor's shrapnels, rendering almost every guns into a nerf gun. The choices were limited during the time: Scorcher for bots and Incendiary Breaker for bugs. no second better/fun options.
Now you can see everybody just grab their favorite gun, for sure some guns are still having better performance but more options viable, you can now consider play in a different way, and achieve goals just a little bit slower
I can't go easy on the developers. They messed up far too much to trust them fully. They have a lot of buffing to do if they want people to go easy on them. I don't want this game to be super easy no, people just want consistency, and they simply haven't been delivering on that.
The game has been consistent besides nerfs and the Sony thing which wasn’t even their decision. You are a nerd bro your opinion sucks
I remember the time helldivers 2 came out, not because I played it, but because Steams Servers where so overloaded, that project zomboid servers would just die at times
Eyy, Helldivers and Project Zomboid, my two current game obsessions, lets go!
Since Sep 17 and Oct 15, the game is really going in the right direction. Let’s just hope Oct 26 will be the greatest day ever.
I first started the game in May, and it was fun at the time, but I could tell there was some stuff up with this game at the time. And it was a wild time. I stopped playing when the nerfs got crazy and when the new patch got announced I got back into the game and was hyped for the new patch. I was glad the new patch superceded my expectations, and then the next patch, our current patch, at this point in time, is great as well.
its so over we're so back its so over we're so back its so over we're so back its so over we're so back
Sounds like cod fans.
@@mrmirchiTheCodGuy no cuz cod is dead for at least 7 years
while patches to hd2 is like that
being good and then bad and good and bad
@@dramat123 Call of Duty is very not dead, its player count is gigantic, it just fucking sucks now, and is overhyped every year and every year people say “Cod is finally back” and the game releases and it’s a shitty nightmare of casino matchmaking and teletubbies and furry skins running around with a huge hacker problem and shit maps.
@@mrmirchiTheCodGuy yea ik its overhyped it always was at least for last 7 years and nothing changed in this game and actually everything got worse so yea its garbage but ofc there is a lot of players and not gigantic but a lot and they just dont know other games so i dont blame them they just dont know
True tho lol
Voting for this game to be goty 🙏
Live service games dont get GOTY.
@@someguyfromtheinternet5102doesn’t mean one can’t be
@@someguyfromtheinternet5102 overwatch did
It rightfully deserves it!
24:01 I'll never forget "we're making the game we want to make" how about you make the game your fans want to play? So glad they fixed everything.
I started playing the game because of starship troopers being one of my favorite movie and I felt like I was in it.
But aside from that I fell in love with the game and even in the rough times I kept playing it and it makes me very happy more people get to enjoy it. I love the community and the friendly fire makes the game so much fun.
I gifted the game to about 8 people and they all loved it 😊 hope we get more democracy for the years to come.
Helldivers 2 really just capitalized on what has proven with many recent hits to be the core of a good game, fun gameplay that a community can be built around. It was the community that let us push back against Sony, and use our power of DEMOCRACY to make what we do and don’t want happen.
Also, personally I think a 20-50k player count is fine for helldivers. Ultimately, that’s the player count the dev team and Sony were looking for, not 200-500k. It’s great to see such higher numbers, but as the devs have made clear, games shouldn’t be for everyone, and so we’ve simply been seeing the numbers get closer to who the game is actually for.
I played it a lot in the beginning a lot less after the nerfs and now I play it steadily. It is a fun game that I can play anytime without any competitive ambitions. Because of that I can play it with my brother who I don't see as often as I'd like since he lives far away and has a lot to do with family and stuff. Perfect game for what it is.
Yea, I took a long break but im back now and I can't stop
Good video, but there are a few things I’d like to add.
The Sony drama was because people thought connecting to PSN was optional but then out of nowhere it wasn’t (AH, Sony, & Steam are all to blame), additionally some countries didn’t have PSN. A lot of games now have the option to or require connecting an account but no one is complaining.
The problem with balancing & meta wasn’t because things that people liked got nerfed, it was because if something was usable (not even strong or OP just usable) people would use that then it would get nerfed because of higher pick rates.
This game is like Rocket League, Halo. It just feels good to play, tactile and responsive. It is a pleasure to interact with (when it’s working)
My biggest gripe for me is the fact that the base machine gun IS the one size fits all gun. It's the only one that's both fun to use and effective. What's the point of all the extra guns if they are all worse than the base standard option?
24:18 Except they literally said otherwise on the packaging
So there has been the long wait for the illuminate to arrive, but I just thought of something even cooler to prolong the game’s life: an expantion to the map beyond the galaxy. Once we push every enemy out of our galaxy, the devs could expand the map, allowing us to fight them on new planets we’ve never seen before with completely different biomes, enemies, maybe small amounts of the Cyborgs from the first game, ect.
The 15th going to be great. Also can't wait for liberty day. My only complaint right now is that the enemies do a ton of damage and almost instantly break your limbs. If we could just tank two or three more shots from a trooper or slashes from a warrior it would be way better
Was hoping the creek would be mentioned but good video either way
Don’t forget when the devs played the game on stream and it was like their first time