IGX 2016 Advanced Longsword Semis and Finals (Kohutovic, Kultaev, Louis, & Tibensky)
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Brought to you by Purpleheart Armory (www.woodensword...), SPES (histfenc.us), PBT (pbthistoricalfe...), Sparring Gloves (sparringglove.com), and Castille Armory (castillearmory.com): Advanced Longsword Semis and Finals from Iron Gate Exhibition 2016 in Boston, MA!
0:21 Rules
Semi-final 1: Sergey Kultaev (Freifechtergilde) v. Martin Tibensky (Trnavsky Sermiarsky Cech)
0:45 Sponsor: Sparring Gloves
0:54 Sponsor: Purpleheart Armory
3:57 Sponsor: PBT Historical Fencing
17:48 Sponsor: Castille Armory
17:58 Sponsor: SPES
1:03 Fighter intros
1:33 Pass 1
2:22 Pass 2
2:50 Pass 3
4:46 Pass 4
6:10 Pass 5
7:08 Pass 6
7:30 Final Score
Semi-final 2: Anton Kohutovic (Trnavsky Sermiarsky Cech) v. Eddy Louis (Forte Swordplay)
7:45 Fighter intros
8:15 Pass 1
9:50 Pass 2
10:19 Pass 3
11:26 Pass 4
13:32 Pass 5
14:25 Final Score
Finals 3rd & 4th: Martin Tibensky (Trnavsky Sermiarsky Cech) v. Eddy Louis (Forte Swordplay)
14:47 Fighter intros
15:07 Pass 1
15:26 Pass 2
16:11 Pass 3
18:53 Pass 4
19:31 Pass 5
20:38 Pass 6
21:05 Final Score
Finals 1st & 2nd: Sergey Kultaev (Freifechtergilde) v. Anton Kohutovic (Trnavsky Sermiarsky Cech)
21:28 Fighter intros
22:32 Pass 1
23:46 Pass 2
24:17 Pass 3
25:10 Pass 4
26:47 Pass 5
27:30 Pass 6
27:51 Final Score
28:41 IGX 2017 dates
Lived in Russia all my life and didn't know sport like this exists, this should be on Olympic Games
AZAMAT T it shouldn’t, it’ll turn into onlympic fencing.... that what happened before....
@@timothyedward6147 yeah, with spaghetti instead of weapon
@@timothyedward6147 We already see high level long sword competitions being won by pure speed and lightning fast flick hits from pencil thin feders, and not advanced technique.
Damn, I wanna move there.
Fully agree this would be epic
14:14 Blue acknowledges hit passes match to Red. Much respect to Blue. Good fencing
Oh shit, the main judge is HP. Lovecraft !!!
However, unlike one would expect, his judging was actually not a horror!
He totally does look like him.
And his cat with him...
Good thing he didn’t bring the cat
Damn
This should be in the olympics AND televised on tv.
This may be an old video, but this is the first video I've seen where fencers could challenge the ref/judges or celebrate a successful hit in a tournament.
Christopher Weidow Video review solves things and guarantees high accuracy. Ideally fighters should be able celebrate and the judges will remain impartial and unbiased, and video review will correct the call if it is judged incorrectly.
Kultaev did a fascinating job! Good fight!
The description lists Martin instead of Anton for the final.
Excellent fights, and
I'll second
Indeed. If HEMA competitions are to become a thing, they must invest in Slow-mo cameras. Otherwise it is only fun if you are sparring.
It is nice to see longsword fencers who train hard.
Kultaev is such a solid fighter! Amazing strength of technique. Once he get the lead he is hard to defeat. He uses his height to great effect this final.
I watched an interview with Sergei Kultaev. Smart guy .. In addition to this sport, he was engaged in kickboxing.
Потрясающе ! Как всё молниеносно и точно ! Култаев молодец! Awesome! How everything is lightning fast and accurate! Kultaev well done!
Молодец , красивые матчи.
Post production highlights (blue or red circles etc) would be a big help for inexperienced viewers.
С удовольствием смотрю который раз!
Култаев просто зверюга =)
надо же. какой вид спорта есть. офигенно! лайк и репост. и никакой ненависти.
This is a great sport. Should be in the Olympics!
why was there only slow motion replays for the first fight and very few for the second one
10:32 is my fav exchange. Louis absolutely cleaved Anton in half lol
Can't believe he only got a single point for that, I didn't see an afterblow
That was a nice one.
@@animefreak122ist8 there was no afterblow, but blue got hit to leg right before his huge attack
Glad to see Juice made it out of the life and found another as a sword fighting referee
So funny
Man, this should be in olympic
It will loose any realism in favor of noodle swords and double hits
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 What the heck are those?
@@lynardskynard2895 double hits is when both fighters hit each other at the same time. In a real fight this results with both of them dying therefore both loose. In olympic fencing when both hit each other one still recieves a point for a fraction of a second.
Noodle sword- just look at olympic sabers
IOC will destroy it. Just look at what they've done to sport fencing and what has been happening to Judo.
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 That's only epee to be fair, and epee is based off gentlemen's duels to first blood, so it's reasonably historically accurate to it's historical context from that point of view
13:53 when you disarm your opponent and strike them in the head in one motion lol
But have to live with the hole in your chest now
More precisely, Anton dropped the sword on his own because he held it very loosely + attack with alot of relaxed muscles. That's why his attack is so explosive but against another fighter who is just as explosive and aggressive, his method became his Achilles's heel
Damn there were some amazing exchanges in this.
Kultaev is a killing machine!!!!
Anton Kohutovic may be the best natural sword fight of our generation!
His style, timing, distance, speed and power are outstanding...
Nah, Martin Fabian is better, and Kultaev is also fantastic. Anton has horrible footwork and only makes up for it by having explosive and fantastic bladework 23:20 as an example. Compare how Anton is always off balance during the thrust while Fabian usually has solid structure throughout. There are several younger guys coming up that are also phenomenal.
Eddie Louis has real talent and I think if he trained with Anton for a year could seriously give him trouble!
Kultaev was very good at hitting his targets. Kohutovic lost the intiative several key times and Kultaev did not miss much. This type of fighting is all about accuracy and speed. Can you hit your target quickly and accurately before they hit you? Tibensky was better then Louis on the day but in my opinion Louis has real raw speed and power just lacks the MAAI....
wow, Kohutovič i mě jako lajkovi přišel jako jasný vítěz. Pekně, starý!
why were no points awarded for the touch at 6:20? it was clean. Tibensky got absolutly skewered and only hit way later. Imo should have been 4 points Kultaev.
afterblow maybe
I'm surprised Louis still had an injured finger through those SPES heavy gaunlets.
Thumb on spes heavy is not protected very well. I've seen two people get their thumb nail stroke off in spes heavy
5:10 this is what I think would be "run through" the sword bends sooo much
I had no idea those longswords could bend that much. It happens so fast.
HEMA longswords bend more than real longswords. This is to prevent injury from thrusts
@@TheDudeWithDaCowbell I haven't seen a lot of feder fencing so I wasn't aware. Says a lot about the quality of the steel.
Круто! 👍🏻
I don't understand the rules for this at all. You have fighters falling to the ground, losing their weapon and moving out of the ring and the judges are like "no score". Like, no, they lose if that happens right?
And with 1 click of a video, Olympic games just seem boring to me now
I really don't know the rules of this event, and I will concede that the structure of the American team seems here weaker than the structure of the other competitors. However, I feel like many of what looked like good cuts and even in instances where the opponent lost balance, Americans were not awarded any points. That seems odd to me. On a personal note it seemed to me the American team was not very efficient with their moves and why the emphasis on the low guard. Maybe it's just me but I favor high guard, zornhut and schlussel. if you know Meyer you know that low guards takes more skill and are more of a counterattack positions. certainly not very good at launching attacks from. maybe to feint to draw your enemy.
Mordin Solus Most engagements both did very well, making good hits on the opponent. Only, if both are hit, the points are canceled out. The winner scored more ‘safe hits’, or also hitting head as apposed to torso
Do not worry, the American team will still show itself in the competition for throwing bananas.
@@chickengod100 ugh. No kidding.
Yeah the purpose of no points being awarded if both people hit each other at the same time is to promote realism of the historical art. If you kill your opponent, but they also kill you, nobody wins, so the points represent that. Each point scored is representing a critial hit or death blow, but that point is only granted if one "survives" to be the victor, unlike say modern foil fencing, which grants points to the one who hits first by mere miliseconds, regardless of a double blow being ultimatly dealt in the end by both fighters, which is unrealitic in the context of real sword fighting.
Here in America, we tend to compete in contact sports more as a hobby; for fun.
The rest of the world (especially in East Asia) tend to hold a philosophy of being the best at what you do
in this championships fencer of other countrys cant participate cos they are to far to go... like italy france spain and england , but they are so good . if this sport get more support the level of championship will improve .
это красиво
After being skewered or having a leg seriously gashed, it seems unreasonable for the opponent on the receiving end to wind up and swing. If the technique was already wound up, only then should a successful counter hit detract from the score.
мощно!
круто
Eddie Louis had good footwork but got caught by how fast and straight the thrusts could travel and hit him.
His footwork is excessive, not good. In basically all of the points he made (including the pretty ridiculous first exchange, where they judged a pretty solid blow as "flat") Anton stole the tempo from his foot, where he was either mid-motion or flat-footed on the ground.
Култаев
The American guy fights like he learned it in Hollywood
Wath is name of thie sport plaese ? Classic and olympic fencing is boring and distorted. This is much more interesting
HEMA - Historical European Martial Arts
@@PaulIlardithank you very much
man we need arenas to fight in not some soccer field get more spectators we need to start selling tickets to our events so we can make some profit for fighting instated of consciously sinking our own capital and gear and maintenance plus travel. Bectha we get a lot better matches and improved display if you allow people to train and not worry about money and just train to be in peak physical performance. If Hema could become a professional sport that would be awesome.
是個高手
So many double hits. Were real duels like this with both fighters dead 80% of the time?
Probably not. This is a sport, though, people fight to win, not to simulate real fighting.
At high speeds, it's pretty much impossible to convert an all-out attack into a parry-riposte. Double hits can be a result of low skill, but what you see here are highly skilled fencers - you just cannot avoid them unless you're fighting extremely cautiously from the distance with only single actions - but that's not fun IMHO.
Sportified version of what is supposed to be a martial art. None of the fighters respect the Vor, because they use their armor as protection instead of timing and their blade. This is a result of the modern worlds soft special snowflake attitude towards injury. They want to participate in a risky, dangerous martial art, but don't want to assume the responsibility of fencing properly and accepting the inevitable injuries that can result from it. Instead they are happy thinking they are "fighting with swords" when in reality they would be considered a "buffel" by a true fencer from the renaissance.
Well, if you think they are mere buffel, then go ahead and beat them. If you're right it's an easy task. But I strongly suspect that you wouldn't stand a chance ;)
That's like being proud of the ability to win at electrical fencing. It means nothing to me. And I train 4x a week and free play 2x a week so whenever you want to meet up I will show you how I handle buffels. I am already beating regional strong contenders, soon you will know the real me when I start winning nationally. Buffels are not hard to beat, even when most of the time "HEMA" rules are stacked against the actually HEMA practitioner. In reality, current HEMA practices should be called "SEMA" (Sportified European Martial Arts) and should rightfully include electrical fencing ;)
Как тут очки то получают?))
В голову 3 . В тело 2 . В конечности 1 . Если оба в голову зайдёте - получите 0. Если ты в голову зашёл а он в тело - то 3-2=1 очко тебе. По эффективности "смертельного ущерба"
@@regenesis1881 Спасибо
Не совсем так. Голова- 2 (удар и укол), укол в корпус и шею 2, остальное по 1. Интересный нюанс: чистый удар удваивает очки. При обоюдном поражении и пропадании в afterblow (удар следующим темпом) очки вычитаются, положительная разница в пользу того, кто пробил "ценнее".
This is crazy cool just shows real sword fighting is not like the movie its just slash death stab death whoever as the bigger army wins
Russian sword too op should be nerfed
He uses Meldonium and should be disqualified. And the victory should be given to African Americans, because the team from Slovakia are racists.
@@chickengod100 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@@chickengod100 hahahaha fuck you ;)
@@chickengod100 counter point - make hema Slovenian exclusive.
@@JL-kw6mt Black lives matter !
man red got that killer instinct
12:58
This goes to show you that in historical times a real fight like this could last only 2 or 3 seconds after the initial contact. Sorry Follywood.
@Quang indeed, if movie sword fights were like real ones they would be over too quickly and not be very exciting
Wtf is that yelling in the background at 13:05
The facility has multiple areas for different groups. The yelling was some kids in another area.
Longsword tournament and you shoot it 20 frames per second? Really?
Can somebody please explain the judging. Everything that looked like it should have been a point was not.
The rules are explained here: igx2016.irongateexhibition.com/tournaments/igx-2016-longsword-tournament-rules-coming-soon/
They are also summarized at 0:22.
Nice video and interesting sport. However some of the defensive movements are very ineffective while its obvious the fighters learned them in their schools and keep repeating them again and again. I don't say Japanese kendo is superior, but just few elements from there would improve the performance of those guys a lot: basic defensive stance with proper distance, proper deflection of point strikes instead of going for the same strike... and in general much more thrusting strikes to the head (unless pointed ones are specific to this sport)
Кароч Всеволод из Ривии вин)
I hella feel America was cheated here. He landed a lot more of those and should've had several passes they counted against.
Fuck no, the dude was wild, even his most successful hit was both a nonfatal blow (nose cut) and the result of kuhotovic getting his blade caught in the mask.
alot of the good hits landed was with the flat of the blade, hence non lethal and not counted
Yeah Slovakia
15
very quick but also pretty ugly fighting. ton of doubles
Very.... "interesting"
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What sort of judging is this. In real life that knock down to the ground would of most likely ended up in death, but yes, the dang points.
Great production but very greedy fighters and mostly bullrushers. People should learn to counter this strategy so it fizzles out of the community...
Slave knight
Slav or Slave?
This is boring when I see the thumbnail I tought it would be like witcher or something
none of them know how to guard its pathetic
legit sword jousting all these jokes would be killed instantly on a battlefield
Сомнительные поединки. Не интересно. Как спорт неплохо, но синего закололи бы еще в начале. И глупо когда разнимают, когда не следует. Имхо нормальные битвы в доспехах интереснее, там и задействовано все и поединок окончен, когда уже противник не может держать меч.
Подобные бои имеют везде свои дополнения в правилах и разнимают не везде)
I hate fighting with feders. Too whippy.
Whippy? Most feders nowadays are still too stiff and dangerous.