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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- Sir Vilhelm doesn't have a very large role in the DLC, but he manages to be fairly memorable with even the brief appearances he's given. A big part of his lasting presence is his voice, but it seems like he wasn't always going to have it.
Song used: Snowpeak Ruins - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess OST
In the past, Miyazaki has talked about how sometimes the concept art for an armor set is drawn and then a whole character is designed for it after the fact, like with Siegmeyer of Catarina and his rotund, onion-like armor. It's possible Vilhelm and the Burial Knight set had a similar relation, with this unused armor set eventually inspiring the creation of Vilhelm's set, his personality and his role in the DLC.
Do basic enemies have a beta or alpha design in the files of the game?
There is a flashing beam of light coming out of the haligtree going north to south. You can go to the first grace of the haligtree and look down at it. Could you go take a look at it closer? I believe its going straight at mohgwyn palace to the cocoon so could it be a message from Malenia to Miquella?
This isn't really related to Villhelm, but it's cool that you went back to cover neat trivia about previous games. Especially Dark Souls 3, one of my personal favorites. So I just wanted to say thanks.
@@dolani6104Can you record it and post a video of this? I don't think I've seen anything like that
Happens in countless games...
I'm actually glad that they made the changes since we get to keep that godly voice.
Grimm pfp? Likes Vilhelm’s voice? Checks out.
the reason of his deep growly voice is because he stands outside in the snow for so long that he gets a sore throat. trust me, it’s canon, it’s in the lore
@@todd3143 the frost resistance doesn’t help against the harsh cold painting
@@todd3143That's the true 'Prepare to Cry'.
reminds me of cid in the new ff16
Both Friede and Vilhelm have insanely great voice acting, arguably my favourites in Souls games.
Don't forget Father Ariandel. "My flail. Bring me my flail" is one of my favorite lines.
@@frogdeity true, and his scream in the beginning of second phase is so dramatic.
@@frogdeity I also love Father Arandel's voice. "When the Ashes are two, a flame alighteth. Thou'rt Ash, and fire befits thee, of course." Is one of my favorite quotes.
The voice acting in AoA is the best from any FS game imo.
There is so much soul in each of the performances, down to the random, cave dwelling, corvian at the beginning.
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It's worth pointing out that historically, narrow-waisted armor most definitely existed for men. Having a wasp-waist was considered fashionable for men for a while around the 16th century.
Indeed. I never considered the armour feminine because of that.
Interesting. Gladiators(another era obviously) had large waists. A much different set of fighting styles afforded them physiques strongly skewed towards being able to do large swinging motions with heavy weaponry.
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Well, Gladiators were Show Fighters. There is also the difference in Aesthetic. The Pagan Bear and the Christian Lion.
I've seen a hypothesis floating about that the drive for the waspish waist was due to the prevalence of breastplates, which rest on the hips and so by design cinch at the waist, and of course the doublets and many other tightly-cinching garments started as underpadding for armor and so round the feedback loop went.
I mean, historically all armor was designed for men with very few exceptions.
The most impressive thing about Sir Vilhelm is that his voice isn't digitally altered. Steven Hartley really does sound like that in real life.
The Onyx Blade is a terrific weapon, and I'm grateful it made the final cut. Igniting its weapon art never gets old.
That I can agree! Nothing can match it’s beauty, the black flame of Friede
@sirvilhelm3569 I'm pleased to hear that, but I have suspicions I'm speaking to a biased source.
just a shame it's moveset doesnt change at all and also that's the only weapon that can have black flame
@@abeautifulduwang You can do the weapon-swap glitch to give other weapons Blackflame, unless it's been patched out.
I love using it when rolling spears of the church. It's great. Especially if I can time its weapon art to sync with the phase two music.
Vilhelm has the best quote in the entire Souls series, "I've seen your kind. Time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught, every secret must me unearthed. Such is the conceit for the self-proclaimed 'seeker of truth.' Yet you lack the stomach, for the agony you'll bring upon yourself."
Oddly enough, a Dark Souls 3 quote fits Spec Ops: The Line perfectly.
Yes Vilhelm, I'm a completionist. And I hunted all the Koroks. You can't even begin to understand the agony.
Vilhelm is pretty much calling out every player who sets out to 100% a game before realising how painful that experience can be.
@@leithaziz2716That and the fact that almost every side quest in Soulsbornes end with the associated NPC dying in much pain...
@@delabuseyeah, they really need to stop doing that...
Fun fact: Vilhelm’s “deep, gravely voice” belongs to the same voice actor who played Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt in The Witcher 3. Steven Hartley is a legend for voicing these 2.
Witcher 3 is awesome. Not really sure if Souls and Witcher (games specifically) fans overlap with eachother, but it would be funny if Zullie tried out the latter.
@@leithaziz2716 I'm an 'overlap fan' 👋! In fact, it was completing my Deathmarch run in The Witcher 3 that gave me the confidence to try Dark Souls & Bloodborne!
All very different games, but I love them all, and didn't realise that fact about the actor, so even better 😊👌
iirc he's also the VA for Senua's Father in Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice.
@@Legather Ohhh really?! What an incredible actor - Hellblade is an amazing game.
The second I heard Vilhelm I knew the voice was familiar so I had to google it right away. Seeing it was eredin smacked me in the face, I can’t believe it didn’t click immediately
Looks like Vilhelm also got in one random coffin too much back in the day.
Heh.
Ds2 reference rare sight nice
I love vilhelms character and armor equally, always my go-to set.
Murderer...
Fashion souls always
He's a great character, and I'm glad we got this version. His quotes are amazing
Top-tier armor, cool sword and one of the best memes in the game.
Well you aren’t entirely hollow, good to see someone with fashion taste
Given the gender swap, the similar poses when wielding the swords, and the fact that even in the finished product he has Blackflame, Vilhelm's earlier iterations could have been early concept and/or mechanics testing designs for Friede.
What if we were meant at some point to fight Vilhelm, instead of Friede as a boss? Perhaps Friede was initially a simple NPC that didn't do much on her own and was mostly stationary like Gwynevere in DS1, but they changed their mind.
@@kessler4o573 I mean, he definitely feels like a boss sometimes lol
I've seen your kind, time and time again.
Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed.
Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth.
But in the end, you lack the stomach.
For the agony you'll bring upon yourself…
Really felt like Vilhelm was calling me out with this.
100% my favorite armor design of the entire series. i’m glad Vilhelm ended up as he did. rip the burial knight armor, your sacrifice was not in vain.
The poncho whips so much ass
Entirely besides the point but _goodness me,_ seeing the Painted World still fills me with such a sense of nostalgia and familiarity.
I'm so glad that we have Zullie to take us back time after time to explore this wonderful world
On the one hand, the armor does have a little bit of a feminine look to it. On the other, it's also reminiscent of 17th century style of dress, kinda looks like a casaque even. Think the Three Musketeers.
He also stands in a musketeer-y way. Or maybe it's just me.
It looks very similar to 16th century armour in silhouette. Which was for men, but then again, the idea of what is "feminine" or "masculine" or even "child-like" has changed vastly. Though the cape I can see very much as 17th century moreso than 16th.
@@M.Datura bro googled armor one time and now he's an expert on capes from the 17th century vs the 16th even though it's a game about killing god
Very glad they ended up with his current role , my man Steven Hartley has a voice deep enough that it can move stone
Kinda sad we could have had a paired Onyx Blade weapon
That VA has a face to match that voice.
One thing we can’t deny about Vilhelm is that his drip goes hard
“I’ve seen your kind, time and time again.
Every fleeing man must be caught, every secret must be unearthed.
Such is the conceit of the self proclaimed seeker of truth.
But in the end, you lack the stomach, for the agony you’ll bring upon yourself…”
Still one of the hardest hitting lines ever written.
Congrats to Sir Vilhelm for acquiring the most powerful voice-changing HRT
Londor must have the most powerful testosterone at their disposal
His waist snatched.
His voice Masc'd 😤👌🏿
From out here again with the trans rep in our beloved trans-masc Vilhelm
Ywnbaw
@@chall-us6de who said anything about being a woman weirdo? There's literally HRT commercials on TV for men to take T who have lost their energy and sex drive. HRT doesn't have to be done for swapping genders and by the numbers, usually isn't. Everybody has both sexed hormones and millions of people receive HRT treatment for a variety of conditions every year. This girly behavior you're exhibiting leads me to believe you need some HRT yourself.
So proud of Vilhelm on his transition, that godly voice is doing wonders for him passing
Dont know what kinda T Vilhelm is on but man’s got a killer voice
_Could this be the T of the Dark Soul?_
Yo that was me, I started E and didn't know what to do with all this T so I gave it to him
Ashen T just hits different
thank you for sharing your T to this beautiful man@@woodlandcollective
@@woodlandcollectiveThank you for your service
It's really interesting how cut ideas, items, and plotlines in From's games have a way of resurfacing. Whether that's in different games, in DLC, or even just as bits of unseen information in the games code.
Makes me wonder if femme Vilhelm is in any way an ancestor to Cleanrot Knight Finlay. Likely not, for a number of reasons, but it is fun to think about.
And the masc could not be?
Dark Souls 3 messed around with a lot in the prototype phase before later implementing those things in Sekiro and Elden Ring. There were attempts at horse-enemies (which later came to fruition with Gyobu), a crouch button and a day/night cycle. This might have been because DS3 came out only a year after Bloodborne and development might have been short, or maybe Fromsoft felt it didn't really fit in with the game's structure so they scrapped those concepts.
Which is kinda funny to think about since some people think the devs tried to play it extremely safe with 3, when they were already experimenting with new mechanics during the prototype period. You saw a lot of those concepts implemented for the first time when Sekiro came out.
@@M.DaturaProbably because Finlay is also a female knight simping for a female master.
@@leithaziz2716 I'm pretty sure they didn't have a day-night cycle in Dark Souls 3 for lore reasons. IIRC, in the Dark Souls universe, the sun is stuck in place and could or could not be an illusion.
Thanks for all your amazing work Zullie, I always enjoy and appreciate your videos
Vilhelm is genuinely my favorite character from the Souls series. the armor, the voice, the sword, they all work together to make such a cool character
I think the straightsword he was meant to wield could be the morion blade, as a fact both the onyx blade and the morion blade are very similar in design (and being both weapons that reminds of Londor's architecture)
Vilhelm's VA is just outstanding, best in the series.
Vilhelm's armor set is so unbelievably dope looking for some reason and I never realized how much I need it as a mod in Blade & Sorcery to use in VR. Probably my favorite armor in DS3. Dark Souls in general just has incredibly cool looking armor that perfectly dances the line of realism and fantasy. I love it.
Damn last time I was this early, Miquella wasn’t an egg
Last time i was this early, the fire giants were still walking around
congratulations to Vilhelm on his transition, very happy for him
Honestly, I think the biggest twist in this for me isn't the fact that Vilhelm's unhollowed face is female. It's the fact he's voiced by Superintendent Tom Chandler from The Bill.
Then again, Pate in DSII was voiced by Darth Maul's movie VA- it's always a pleasant surprise to find out just where you've heard certain voices before, isn't it?
I never really saw Vinhelm's armor as Feminine, the Cloak is because it is Cold, and the slender lines were common as most Knights really were quite wiry men.
For what it's worth, Vilhelm's cloak somewhat resembles a bishop's cape, only it's made of chainmail rather than soft fabric. Maybe there's a historical precedent for it (I don't know much about real-world armours) or it could be to tie in Vilhelm's design to that of Friede, what with him being a knight who serves a priestess.
The cape isn’t because it’s cold it’s because it’s a 1-1 with a bishops mantle. Around the late 16th century it was popular among mercenaries like the Landshknechts.
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Neat.
I love everything about Vilhelm, his weapon, his armor, his voice HIS VOICE; so to know we were close to not having him in the game as he is, it is mind-blowing.
Vilhelm's voice makes me question my sexuality
> deep bass femboi
Vilhelm has the coolest cape. Love his armor. Put the Witch's hat on top of it.
He got that T-boy swag
Just want to say I really appreciate your extensice use of Zelda OST and it really goes so well with the lore deep dives you do. Bravo.
I love details like this, because it shows how much changes throughout the development process. These games are monolithic unchanging vision from start to finish, they are fluid and ever changing as the game is developed by massive groups of individuals with distinct visions
Knowing now the part of about the sword in the off hand, I wonder if vilhelm would have had similar Fighting style to the Fume knight of Dark souls 2? Regardless it's original intent, it always makes me happy seeing and speculating on the creative process over in these particular Fromsoft offices. The fact they can pivot on ideas for stories and characters and still make these memorable characters and moments is really inspiring in a creative since.
We can take these as lessons. Never constrain your imagination and creative energies. Sometimes it can lead to a much bigger fire than the original spark that started it.
I definitely appreciate you making more DS3 content, I like to think my favorite game ever isnt fully dead yet lol
DS3 never died at least on Playstation :)
I'm always happy to see your logical quotation Zullie.
I’ve seen your kind time and time again
My favourite line was when he said "YOU'RE LISTENING TO TALK SPORT". Truly bone chilling.
From discovering you during my BB days of hunting items. To the present of waiting for new releases.
Thank you. Take care of yourself.
I can still hear. "Ive seen your kind time and time again."
Upgrades all around for this one. The armor is one of my favorites in the game, as is the voice actor.
Happy for him. Congrats on the Transition, Vilhelm
Good for him, good for him
Tch, miserable mad hollow
He transitioned good for him
happy for his transition xoxo
I think a reason for the design change of the armor. Has to do with what the character was meant to represent. In item descriptions Vilhelm is described as a cold-blooded hangman.
Now he has a 1-1 bishops mantle which was popular in the late 16th century. Amongst the renaissances most famous mercenaries the Landsknechts.
Seems like they made them so cool they had to split the character and make both Vilhelm and Friede. I could see the trick weapons being move from a door guard to a big boss.
Thank you for using Twilight Princess music often! It is my favourite Zelda and my favourite soundtrack in the Gamecube era (and of any Zelda game!)
i'm glad they settled with this design cuz its my favourite armour set in any fromsoft game
I wonder if the two swords was meant as a reference to Pontiff Sully. Given that the DLC reveals he was originally from the Painted World.
Given that his actions were to put a stop to the cycle of fire, just as Friede's was to stop the cycle in the Painted World as well, it could've been a reference or callback, or maybe they wanted to instill the idea that Friede and Sully were working together. Hell, might've been why Friede's scythes are the way they are too.
I believe the Burial Knight set was used in some if the modding community's bigfer works, either the Convergence mod or Cinders. I cant remember which, but a shame we didnt get it finished up and used elsewhere. Very cool look
At least we got the Lapp set
Champions ashes has it
I was not expecting a Dark Souls 3 video, great stuff.
Thank you for sharing this!! The community really appreciates your work!
I love how we're still learning things about Dark Souls even all these years later
The twilight princess OST in your videos is tasteful and appropriate
I have never played any Zelda games (never owned a nintendo console before the switch) but all the music used in this videos always makes me wonder where it was originally used because it always has some air of mystery and subtle horror to it and that isn't how I imagine Zelda games XD
Twilight Princess was a somewhat darker take on the series. The most unsettling is still Majora's Mask, but there is a horror undercurrent to a lot of TP.
For those who like both hardcore and vilhelm's badass quote when he fights you, there is a song called 'Boiling Point' by Serration that samples the quote near the end of the song
god I love this channel even after all these years we are still finding cool stuff. Keep up the good work :)
Thanks Zullie for uncovering more backstory of one of my favourite NPCs of DS3
It's something about his voice
The Burial Knight set looks so much better it's not even comparable.
So much Incredible detail for such Underappreciated Art
Amazing Work
I’m just flabbergasted
"but just as striking is his deep, gravelly voice" oh you have no idea what that voice does to me... Oh boy
Yes I get that a lot, Fear and intimidation I envoke from speaking alone
@@sirvilhelm3569 uh-huh, fear and intimidation, totally what the voice makes me feel pffft
Congrats on the transition, king
Vilhelm's and Marvelous Chester's voice work was superb, I'm a sucker for gravelly voice actors
The real part of Vilhelm that stands out is that sick ass chain mail poncho. Literally the coolest.
I've never seen Vilhelm's armour as effeminate. The cape/shawl is very much like a chasuble, a liturgical vestment.
Happy to see some Dark Souls content again. Much more interesting than Elden Ring, to me.
Back to DS3, oh my! Thank you Zullie. This stuff is fascinating!
Zullie thanks for all of the informative content, you provide so much insight to this community ❤️
Yay! More DS3 curiosities! I love these ones, since DS3 is one of my favorite in the souls series and, in my opinion, a game with such a huge potential that couldn't come to be as its best due to lack of time for the development of the game. I still imagine what the game could've been if they had delayed the release one more year... I would've loved to have those skyboxes that you have shown before or a day/night cicle... so much potential, but oh well, it's still a fantastic game. Thanks a lot for uploading these.
I’ve seen your kind…
Time and time again…..
It explains his armor's look a lot
Great choice of music.
after years, i surprise when we still have something new inside ds3
Elden Ring DLC wishlist: Steven Hartley reads Miquella a bedtime story.
I will never not get excited for a new Zullie video. ❤️
Vilhelm is just behind on their voice training, happens to all of us
The set that actually made it into the DLC is one my of my all time favs
Ahhh... the remaster shine on the armour. I can never quite get over it.
Oh, but this is DS3, not 1. I guess the extreme shine/emission when it came to metal armour was intentional after all?
I'm really glad you are back after a break. There is absolutely no dip in quality (there wasn't even a possibility of it) and if any other content creator needs an affirmation that breaks are healthy and necessary please take this comment as one. One of the rare jobs nowadays that allows one have a necessary extended holiday
I just wish the algorithm didn’t punish people so severely for breaks in posting schedule.
Proud of his transition. 💙
I don’t relish in the amount of attention I’m getting
@tuulenkoti nah it's canon michael zaki told me himself
Vilhelm has one of the best armor sets in the series
This was the voice intended from the start.
They watched the Venture Bros and really liked Dr Miss The Monarch.
Love this channel. Welcome back Zullie!
Vilhelm is one of my favorite NPCs, especially cuz the voice and speech he gives, which is why I've promoted him to boss status in my mid alongside Friede lol
So glad to see Dark Souls III being looked into again!
I LOVE Vilhelm voice but now i can't stop thinking about female Vilhelm voiced by Shohreh Aghdashloo
THANKS FOR THAT
Shout-out to men with deep voices
vilhelm just got the most powerful hrt ever, simple.
thank u for using this lovely song
Im so happy for him 💙💓🤍💓💙
The Daddy-est of all Dark Souls voices ☺️
Imagine having a voice so hot, that you melt even Miyazaki.
Even though Vilhelm's design is slender, it is actually more historically accurate to the armor. Late medieval plate armor was quite well-fitting and would have wasp-waist tampering. So I never took him as a having a feminine frame.
Steven Hartley, don't you ever go hollow.
hey, just wanted to say while i'm glad to see you back making these, i hope you mostly get to make and talk about what you want to talk about. i hope the time away was helpful!
Vilhelm’s armor looks like what the Fallen Knight armor once was.