The Dutch Model 1871/79 Beaumont - from Ethiopia

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @19redmiata94
    @19redmiata94 3 года назад +274

    Looks like a fairly normal rifle until you see the spring inside the bolt handle. I love the videos that cause me to ask "what the hell?" Those are the most interesting ones. I also love that you can learn some world history from these videos.

    • @tomunterwegs1206
      @tomunterwegs1206 3 года назад +10

      back in school in history lessons, we learned who won/lost where & when.
      here i'm learning practically all the why.

    • @TheKencoffee
      @TheKencoffee 3 года назад +15

      I have learned about the existence of so many historical conflicts that I never heard about in school through Ian's videos over the last few years. I've actually been caused to further research many of these and deepened my understanding of how the world became what it is today.

    • @1aapmens
      @1aapmens 3 года назад +7

      @@TheKencoffee being Dutch I really appreciate the "didn't find themselves in a war" bit. Basically meant the Germans weren't that interested. Which fortunate situation held untill 1940.

  • @SelfRaisingWheat
    @SelfRaisingWheat 3 года назад +184

    Heads up, it's the Empire of Ethiopia not "Kingdom" since Ethiopia as a state was a union of different kingdoms. Menelik II was Emperor (negusa negast) and his provincial lords were all kings (negusitati). Menelik himself was only a king (of Shewa) before he took over as Emperor of all Ethiopia.

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 3 года назад +15

      Interesting, thank you

    • @royalhero4608
      @royalhero4608 3 года назад +13

      I'm guessing 'negusa negast' means king of kings? Similar to the Persian definition of emperor

    • @SelfRaisingWheat
      @SelfRaisingWheat 3 года назад +24

      @@royalhero4608 Correct! He was the supreme king of all the other subordinate kings or leaders of each region.

    • @royalhero4608
      @royalhero4608 3 года назад +10

      @@SelfRaisingWheat Awesome. Ethiopia really intrigues me, it has such a unique history

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 3 года назад +2

      Resume of the ethiopian history: the virgin european, arabian or whatever idk vs the chad ethiopian, prove me wrong, go ahead, humiliate yourselves

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 3 года назад +228

    The Ethiopian ‘stash’ is the gift that keeps on giving.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 3 года назад +2

      Yup! Insta-click.

    • @akaJughead
      @akaJughead 3 года назад +9

      Too bad everything is in like the worst shape it could possibly be in.

    • @AppalachianTemplar
      @AppalachianTemplar 3 года назад +14

      @@akaJughead my enfield from that stash was filled with dead bugs.

    • @glennpearson3056
      @glennpearson3056 3 года назад +16

      @@AppalachianTemplar I saw that movie! They are not dead... Just... Waiting.

    • @MyILoveMinecraft
      @MyILoveMinecraft 3 года назад +7

      @@akaJughead kinda comes with the territory doesn't it?

  • @sneakeypete
    @sneakeypete 3 года назад +74

    They were worried about the V spring holding up... Still looks good nearly 150 years later

    • @TheZinmo
      @TheZinmo 3 года назад +7

      This one does not look heavily used. So the spring should be quite good, since it was never really worked an kompressed. This is hell of a lucky find, especially if one looks at all the other rifles in that stash.

    • @johannesvanhoek9080
      @johannesvanhoek9080 3 года назад +3

      I have 2 Dutch Beaumont rifles 1871/88 and the V Spring is still in very good condition and works perfectly

    • @falloutlover5443
      @falloutlover5443 3 года назад +6

      @@johannesvanhoek9080 I also have two whose springs are still great. One of them I got from a friend who I know took it to the range fairly often. I don't think the springs are quite as fragile as their reputation would imply.

    • @remko2
      @remko2 3 года назад +3

      @@johannesvanhoek9080 apart from that, it seems like an easily replaceable part

    • @alexsis1778
      @alexsis1778 3 года назад

      @@remko2 Agreed. Not exactly something you'd want to do in combat but easily done by anyone who has a screwdriver handy and a spare minute.

  • @alk7934
    @alk7934 3 года назад +97

    The shirt matches the gun perfectly.

    • @Julia-fc4mp
      @Julia-fc4mp 3 года назад

      The shirt Is more interesting than the rifle

  • @dv7533
    @dv7533 3 года назад +92

    The development and adoption of this rifle in the Netherlands would have been during the reign of king Willem the 3rd, not the 2nd, the 2nd died in 1849. Interesting video though, I always wondered what preceded the Dutch Mannlicher in Dutch service.

    • @allofus6133
      @allofus6133 3 года назад +1

      Klopt als een zwerende vinger. Het was Willem de derde. Koning gorilla🤪

    • @stephanmast.8634
      @stephanmast.8634 3 года назад

      European made in a slightly more "modern" calibre. Also there was no need fore a real modern rifle fore the dutch army outside of the colonys.

    • @geertbus4644
      @geertbus4644 3 года назад

      Sinder and the beaumont rifle.

  • @lairdcummings9092
    @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +20

    This rifle, very functional as it is, really serves to show the genius of the Mauser system.
    Extremely cool to see a very early bolt action rifle, especially in such excellent condition

  • @redlock4004
    @redlock4004 3 года назад +33

    To give some perspective to the timing of this rifle, as they began to process of getting it, in 1867, Canada was becoming a country. July 1 1867.

    • @geddycurrent1174
      @geddycurrent1174 3 года назад

      Self governing Dominion within the British Empire?

  • @keithallardice6139
    @keithallardice6139 3 года назад +6

    Wow ... 150 years old and still looking good!! That is a gorgeous, interesting, fantastic ... forgotten weapon! Never even heard of Beaumont before...
    Thanks to you, O blessed Gun Jesus - your followers are humbled by your knowledge, wisdom and ... THAT shirt ;-)

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 3 года назад +25

    Probably the rifle issued to my grandfather, when he was shipped to the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) to fight in the Aceh Rebellion, sometime in the 1890s. I think he was shipped there before the switch to the Dutch Mannlicher. He survived his enlistment. Retired in the Indies, only to die in a Japanese prison camp, in WWII.

    • @con6lex
      @con6lex 3 года назад +4

      Thank you for sharing. Sorry to hear about your grandfather suffering like that.

    • @johannesvanhoek9080
      @johannesvanhoek9080 3 года назад +1

      Very sorry to hear 😢

    • @jimjones7594
      @jimjones7594 3 года назад +3

      My grandfather served 12 years in Dutch colonial service 1888 to 1900. I am fortunate in having the daily journal that he kept during that time. It's in German but we had it translated to English. Quite interesting.

    • @johannesvanhoek9080
      @johannesvanhoek9080 3 года назад

      @@jimjones7594 very Fortunate

    • @geertbus4644
      @geertbus4644 3 года назад

      A beaumont could have been used early 1900 but the switch to the M95 Hembrug was fast. And interesting to hear he was pat of the Atjeh war.

  • @jamesallred460
    @jamesallred460 3 года назад +22

    Hell yeah, best way to start the day! Love it when I get here this early!

    • @andrewcrockett4780
      @andrewcrockett4780 3 года назад +4

      I love the smell of historical firearms in the morning.

    • @xgford94
      @xgford94 3 года назад

      I’m laughing… 5min after your comment it’s 10:05PM here in Brisbane AU. Have a great Day anyway

  • @VeraTR909
    @VeraTR909 3 года назад +8

    As soon as I saw the stamp I was excited to hear how you would pronounce 'Maastricht' haha, you did fine ;)

    • @VeraTR909
      @VeraTR909 3 года назад

      @@_DeadEnd_ Yeah it was pretty good, i'm also a dutch person ofc.

  • @jamesweston388
    @jamesweston388 3 года назад +16

    Very interesting striker mechanism. I'd like to learn more about V-spring cartridge strikers.

  • @jackusmc2542
    @jackusmc2542 3 года назад +27

    WOW! What didn't the Ethiopians get for weapons? This is great, so many variants that were fairly rare.

    • @sampleentry5253
      @sampleentry5253 3 года назад +4

      @@buckberthod5007 Comes with being surrounded by European colonies.

  • @tomm9963
    @tomm9963 3 года назад +5

    The wooden finish on that is beautiful

  • @RoGo259
    @RoGo259 3 года назад +33

    A Dutch version, of a French rifle, from Ethiopia. MR WORLDWIDE

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 3 года назад +8

      perhaps made in Germany, later upgraded with Italian magazines.

    • @nazarderkach9320
      @nazarderkach9320 3 года назад +1

      Could also be a Czechoslovak version of a German rifle from the same place.

    • @lonewolf4393
      @lonewolf4393 3 года назад

      I found one of those rifles in a outback while it's being pulled by a outback while it's parked out back of a outback

    • @zenger74
      @zenger74 3 года назад +1

      Dutch rifle, Dutch designer, made in Maastricht, a Dutch city... just saying

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 2 года назад

      I saw one of these with the magazine at a cabellas in Wisconsin yesterday.

  • @robinblackmoor8732
    @robinblackmoor8732 3 года назад +5

    I think it was just two days ago I was polishing my 1871/79 Beaumont.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 года назад

    very cool piece of history

  • @Thedailygrind90
    @Thedailygrind90 3 года назад +30

    I just bought a beaumont vertali. currently sourcing a means of loading the cartridges. dies brass etc are rediculously expensive.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      I wish I had some leads for you, because I'd love to see one shoot!

    • @Thedailygrind90
      @Thedailygrind90 3 года назад

      @@ScottKenny1978 there are videos out there on YT. I have just about everthing sourced formed brass( made from 50/90 sharps) neck sizing with a 45 colt die. the scary part for me is the black powder as I do not know anything about BP loading.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +2

      @@Thedailygrind90 fill the case, leave NO air space!!!
      Seat bullet.
      Slightly compressed loads are good.

    • @smrts
      @smrts 3 года назад +3

      Buffalo arms sells it for $88per20rd box when they have it in stock

    • @philhatcher9072
      @philhatcher9072 3 года назад +2

      I use 70gr ffg and the lee .457 400gr ...I just use the colt 45 die to neck size, then use the universal expander die to seat bullet...using the flat side of the expander plug. You're guaranteed to get lots of people coming up and asking if it is a Mauser.

  • @BigLisaFan
    @BigLisaFan 3 года назад +157

    Bet that rifle could tell quite a few stories if it could talk.

    • @robinblackmoor8732
      @robinblackmoor8732 3 года назад +9

      Oh, it can talk. It can say BOOM.

    • @romgl4513
      @romgl4513 3 года назад +6

      Loose lips sink ships, enemy ear might be near...

    • @shawnbraggs1951
      @shawnbraggs1951 3 года назад +5

      Being from Ethiopia I bet it would say it's starving to death probably for some oil from the looks of it.

    • @bigmikeh5827
      @bigmikeh5827 3 года назад +3

      That’s why I’ve been collecting for 30 years. The stories they could tell. Sometimes they do. I have a Remington 1891 that they actually took possession of, that ended up in Finish hand and swapped in Westing house bolt that ended up back here.

    • @Jason-fm4my
      @Jason-fm4my 3 года назад +6

      Probably quite a warehouse connoisseur, tbh

  • @ClassicFormulaOne1
    @ClassicFormulaOne1 3 года назад +1

    Two weeks ago I bought a M71 Beaumont from 1871. Exactly 150 years old! The M71 was the very first version, indeed with the safety switch on the side.

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw 3 года назад +1

    Your depth of knowledge is amazing.
    Very interesting to see the historic detours en-route towards the "modern" configuration of a rifle.
    I would have loved to see a cartridge that goes with the gun, however...

  • @stradleybidley8893
    @stradleybidley8893 3 года назад +5

    Love the content man. Keep doing what youre doing, were proud of you.

  • @Sharp_Stone
    @Sharp_Stone 3 года назад +24

    Me as a Dutchy would love to see more historical weapons from the Netherlands ^^

    • @stove1592
      @stove1592 3 года назад

      nice! ik ben ook nederlands

    • @joranvandersluis
      @joranvandersluis 3 года назад

      is dit dus een echt nederlands geweer?. beaumont klinkt toch niet nederlands?

    • @stove1592
      @stove1592 3 года назад +1

      @@joranvandersluisze werden gemaakt in Maastricht, beaumont is een stad in belgie

    • @Blyat1991
      @Blyat1991 3 года назад

      We hebben der helaas niet zo veel

    • @mormacil
      @mormacil 3 года назад

      @@joranvandersluis Er zijn periodes geweest dat Belgie onder Nederlands bewind viel and Belgie was groots in wapenproductie. Beaumont is een prima Belgische naam.

  • @zeldaglitchman
    @zeldaglitchman 2 года назад

    Just got my grandpa's old one of these he used to display in his dining room, mine is one of the box magazine ones

  • @sterlingcr7860
    @sterlingcr7860 2 года назад

    Thanks for the back story Ian. Oddly my gun has the vitali conversion but remains in the white as well as having a slotted cleaning rod. All matching numbers too. So much fun to shoot....always turns heads.

  • @smrts
    @smrts 3 года назад

    I have been waiting for this ever since I found your channel I have a 1874 Beaumont Vitali and I have wondered if any still existed without the magazine.

  • @nejcgucek353
    @nejcgucek353 3 года назад +4

    Hi Ian,
    love your videos!

  • @hockeywarrior
    @hockeywarrior 3 года назад +6

    Hi Ian, great video as always. Question: I'd love it if you could do a video that's just about how you go about cleaning up old historic rifles like this one. Many of us have our own techniques to clean them without removing their history, but I'd really like to see your general approach and techniques given your experience.

  • @johnnytrigger5512
    @johnnytrigger5512 3 года назад +6

    13.08 pm, just sat down to my lunch, great timing Ian😀

  • @zachnar0125
    @zachnar0125 3 года назад +1

    What an awesome piece! I need to keep my eyes open.

  • @jcorbo7518
    @jcorbo7518 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Ian, very cool rifle and history!

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Ian great video!

  • @_faultee_
    @_faultee_ 3 года назад

    Very cool bolt, looks strong. I also really like the dovetail extractor design, can allow for strong extractors while maintaining the spring ability it needs to snap over a cartridge.

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser8998 3 года назад

    wow ...what a different 'forgotten weapon'. A spring inside the bolt is a unique design feature...but very clever idea. And so easy to replace if any problems with regular service.
    nice shirt BTW

  • @mjlotus
    @mjlotus 3 года назад +6

    The entire surface of that rifle is dinged-up. It has seen hard service.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +6

      120 years in Africa will do that to you.

  • @fearthehoneybadger
    @fearthehoneybadger 3 года назад +6

    Now, that's what I call a Dutch treat.

  • @OhioTravelswithKris
    @OhioTravelswithKris 3 года назад +4

    Good morning! Have a great weekend

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger 3 года назад +25

    Yeah, the fragile V spring, still kicking after 150 years of service. Well at least 130 years, I suppose the Ethiopians used those as well anything else they could get their hands on while they were attacked from most directions.

    • @Ammoniummetavanadate
      @Ammoniummetavanadate 3 года назад +5

      I am happy they survived, their food is quite unique and very tasty.

    • @OldieBugger
      @OldieBugger 3 года назад +1

      @@Ammoniummetavanadate Well, I wish some enterprising guy would open an Ethiopian restaurant in my city. But that is really unlikely. Pity.

  • @ethan5.56
    @ethan5.56 3 года назад

    I have a Steyr m95 Indonesian contract in .303 British. Pretty cool old rifle. Receiver is marked 1898 but converted to 303 British in the 50s. Pretty cool big muzzle device on it. Hembrug Arsenal stamp on the stock. Got some original steyr enblock clips for it and shot it a few times. Great video as always! Very interesting old rifle

  • @joet.s.6283
    @joet.s.6283 3 года назад +5

    If you had asked me to guess where the mainspring was and told me it WASNT in the bolt, I would've never guessed the freaking bolt handle...

    • @DaniTheGunsmith
      @DaniTheGunsmith 3 года назад +1

      In the first close up I noticed the bolt handle was two pieces, but yeah, never would've guessed it was because there was a spring in there. Very unique way of doing things.

  • @JustaCommonJoe
    @JustaCommonJoe 3 года назад

    I just acquired this same firearm from a relative and researched it through this very helpful site as I have done in the past. However, I am a bit confused as to the dates and variations that are addressed in the vid compared to what I have. In your video you mention that mods were done in 1888 to upgrade to the mag version. The one that I have is stamped 1877 and has those same mods. (Mag) all serial numbers on all parts match, and the only other thing that is missing from your informative review is that my rifle does not carry the P Stevens stamp. Nor does it have the Ethiopia stamp as you addressed. That does not matter to me at this point. It's just the times of dates and mods that throws me off. All-in-all, your vids are a great resource for me in building my collection and gaining information. I really appreciate your knowledge and willingness to offer the same to us antique gun collectors. All your work is well done and not gone unappreciated.

  • @wallaroo1295
    @wallaroo1295 3 года назад

    So, I'm out RV'ing - staying in a little town called Broadus, Montana - I go into the little museum in town today, and... it's full guns. And lo and behold - in that case is Dutch Beaumont. I have *never* seen one before [maybe I walked past one in Cody, but that place is... holy shit] - and here is one. Pretty cool coincidence. Ian should *definitely* get into this museum - it also has no time constraints for video production. He can take all the time he wants, and the museum staff *love* having road experts come in. They have a TON of guns from the late 1800s and early 1900s - a bunch of WWII bringbacks in wonderful condition. Brownings, Japanese weapons, lever actions of all types, a trove of shotguns... Ian could probably spend an entire summer here doing videos... And I know, I am going to next year!
    They have a saber from Little Big Horn, the *Smithsonian Verified!* largest collection of seashells west of the Mississippi. Local fossils, tractors, guns, arrowheads, and all kinds of quirkery collected by locals since the 1800s. It is an amazing little museum.
    And... the museum lets you touch things... I like that. *They* like that - they *want* you to touch the things.
    Yep - definitely going to hang out in Broadus a *whole* lot more.

  • @MrRogsmart
    @MrRogsmart 3 года назад

    Another good one. Thanks Ian.

  • @Judge_Magister
    @Judge_Magister 3 года назад +1

    Cool, Beaumont was a rich family from Maastricht a mid tier city in the south of the Netherlands, i live there. Their mansion is now a “rijksmonument” situated at the market plaza. I believe there is a series of escape rooms in their mansion these days. Some figures of the family got rich from weapon manufacturing they started out by making high end decorative pistols btw. Thats a very nice and unique piece you got there good job!

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      Makes me wonder if there's any relation to Chevalier d'Eon de Beaumont.

    • @robertlinke2666
      @robertlinke2666 3 года назад +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 would not be that surprising.
      not long before this the Netherlands was a for a while part of the french empire, and belgium was part of the netherlands as well.

    • @Judge_Magister
      @Judge_Magister 3 года назад

      @@robertlinke2666 Could be Maastricht in general was always a more French orientated city, when Belgium split of in 1830 Maastricht choose to join them, but Dutch troops stationed there prevented that luckily! The Dutch province that Maastricht is in is called Limburg, there is also a Limburg province in Belgium and it used to be also a bit in Germany including the city of Aachen which was the capital of the Franks under Charlemagne, greater Limburg is general was the center region from where the Franks conquered Roman Gaul etc and created France. Today the standard Dutch language is a direct descendant from old Frankish, together with the Saxon language they make up the low German dialects. The Frisians in the north of the Netherlands speak a bit more like English and Danish. Anyway i digress...

    • @robertlinke2666
      @robertlinke2666 3 года назад

      @@Judge_Magister ik ben nederlands, en hoewel ik het meeste hiervan wist, niet alles.

  • @royhorologic1732
    @royhorologic1732 Год назад

    I owned one of the single-shot versions as a schoolboy in UK. Impossible to find ammunition so I improvised. Because the round wasn't a fit in the chamber I had to wrap a piece of cloth round the action to prevent a face full of hot gas. I recall that the owner's name carved on the butt had the notation "1898".

  • @EdHunter55
    @EdHunter55 3 года назад +1

    Cool to see one of "our" guns still around! Looking forward to more about the other version in the east indies!
    Willem II died in 1849 though so it must have been his son Willem III that officially adopted them though.

  • @Fuerwahrhalunke
    @Fuerwahrhalunke 11 месяцев назад

    I would have a field day with this applying some acetone, ironing out the indents, filling up those cracks/dents, reworking the stamps to make them more visible and reapplying some boiled linseed oil. That thing would look like it came right from the factory.

  • @Woud_
    @Woud_ 3 года назад

    Cool to see a rifle that was inspected in my province!

  • @Jason-fm4my
    @Jason-fm4my 3 года назад

    Love all the interesting old rifles.

  • @thomasscudder5638
    @thomasscudder5638 3 года назад +1

    In the US at least, it seems the beaumont vitali conversion was surplused just before ww1. You'll often see them show up in silent war films around 1916-1920, usually as a stand in for german mausers.

  • @apostrofe40
    @apostrofe40 3 года назад +6

    ..I want Ian to make a movie as a young Hercule Poirot..."Murder in Ethiopia" or something like that

  • @teaser6089
    @teaser6089 3 года назад +8

    It would have been King Willem the Third, not second. Willem the Second died in 1849.

  • @Ezekiel_Allium
    @Ezekiel_Allium 2 года назад

    Just picked up a bayonet for one of these things for pretty cheap (125$) at an antique store. The journey of identifying it was wild, I was not prepared for just how many cruciform socket bayonets there were in the 1860s and 70s lol

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 3 года назад

    Ian, I love the show and the information it entertainingly provides. This time I must comment on the shirt. I love it.

  • @SovietGrazz
    @SovietGrazz 3 года назад +6

    "For you Europeans [metric units]" - TIL that every country in the world other than the USA, Liberia, and Myanmar must be in Europe.

  • @terry7907
    @terry7907 3 года назад

    Glad that it came with a manual to show you how to do D&A 😀.

  • @jorisvanamsterdam5763
    @jorisvanamsterdam5763 2 года назад

    For as far as I know, the Dutch Navy also was issued with this type of rifle, with only just a shorter length barrel.

  • @nielsdijkman
    @nielsdijkman 3 года назад

    great to learn gun history of my country.
    I live in Holland.

  • @Franky46Boy
    @Franky46Boy 2 года назад

    @Ian and @Forgotten Weapons The Beaumont rifles were also used by the colonial army (KNIL) in the Dutch East Indies (now: Indonesia) until the advent of the Dutch M95 Steyr-Mannlicher. The KNIL never converted their Beaumonts with the Vitali magazine to Beaumont-Vitalis, So this particular rifle may have been used by the KNIL too.

    • @pietpieters4556
      @pietpieters4556 Год назад +1

      No, colonial beaumonts were never updated with the m.79 sight and besides kept the safetylever.

  • @saanon9334
    @saanon9334 3 года назад +2

    Nice shirt, Ian.

  • @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
    @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 3 года назад

    Know that we love every video Ian

  • @hendriktonisson2915
    @hendriktonisson2915 3 года назад +3

    Did the Dutch cavalry Remington Rolling Blocks use the same cartridge as the their M1871/79 Beaumont rifles?

  • @JarOfDirt.
    @JarOfDirt. 3 года назад +4

    Being Dutch myself, This is very interesting to watch

  • @Botchulism_asdf
    @Botchulism_asdf 3 года назад +1

    Ya I love how u can hear what militaries and governments were thinking and new ideas about manufacturing concepts through time and how they improved upon gun designs from 400 years ago until modern ar 15

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 3 года назад +2

    I was wondering why that bolt handle was so massive. I had no idea it had a V-spring inside of it.

    • @christopherreed4723
      @christopherreed4723 3 года назад +1

      "Is that a V-spring in your bolt handle, or are you just..." 😜

  • @Unix2816
    @Unix2816 3 года назад +6

    On this episode of bottom gear mate we review a rifle

  • @internetexplorer1057
    @internetexplorer1057 3 года назад

    Hawaii shirts go surprisingly well with Dutch antique rifles - from Ethiopia.

  • @bitfunk24
    @bitfunk24 3 года назад

    The early metallic cartridge guns are the coolest. Big boolet', low velocity. Idk, there's just something so cool about that, to me. Just seeing how much accuracy you can get out of a bullet like that is interesting.

  • @MopTop88
    @MopTop88 3 года назад +1

    Whoa Ian, I didn't know you shopped at Dan Flashes! I want that shirt SO BAD!

  • @colindols4112
    @colindols4112 3 года назад

    and the town of Maastricht where the rifle was approved is 20 minutes away from me, never knew that city approved / tested guns back in the day

    • @kallejodelbauer2955
      @kallejodelbauer2955 3 года назад

      So you live in "Maaskantje".Did that belongs to a 150 year old Gun?
      I dont think so.

    • @colindols4112
      @colindols4112 3 года назад

      @@kallejodelbauer2955 as someone that is Dutch, i find that fairly offensive. i do not live in a province i dislike called ''Brabant'' that has the village of Maaskantje. i live in a worse place called Sittard kek

  • @rizaradri316
    @rizaradri316 3 года назад

    Beaumont rifle is the heavily used in Dutch East Indies. Especially during Dutch conquest of Aceh and Bali.

  • @SubTroppo
    @SubTroppo 3 года назад

    Read "Scoop" by Evelyn Waugh (based on Italy's later Imperial war in "I'll be see'n ya").

  • @JeffAM1986
    @JeffAM1986 3 года назад

    Interesting early bolt action. Wish you would use more pictures on some of the information you are explaining.

  • @davidbrennan660
    @davidbrennan660 3 года назад

    Ian, has laid his hands on this rifle..... .

  • @Tjlasher
    @Tjlasher 3 года назад +1

    Honestly the bolt reminds me very much of the Mosin

  • @johncashwell1024
    @johncashwell1024 3 года назад

    Ethiopia, during that time period, seems have had a preference for rifles that were "in the white" as opposed to blued. It could be that this was just a quirk of what was available on the surplus market or maybe, just maybe, there was a reason for this preference. A few possibilities come to mind: 1. In the hot Ethiopian sun a blued rifle is going to get hotter than a rifle "in the white" and make handling uncomfortable; or 2. Cleaning black powder firearms that are "in the white" may be easier and/or may have several advantages (for a military) over blued black powder weapons; or 3. The Emperor of Ethiopia or some general (or civil servant) in charge of, or overseeing procurement of small arms for the Ethiopian military may simply have had a preference for the look of rifles that were "in the white". Its just a few theories I am researching.

  • @arthurbouwhuis1647
    @arthurbouwhuis1647 3 года назад

    Your pronunciation of Maastricht is almost perfect!

  • @bakaneko113
    @bakaneko113 3 года назад +2

    So much more advanced than our trapdoors and earlier.

  • @johnpalmer5131
    @johnpalmer5131 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing design that was implemented at a time when many Armies of the world (including the US) where still relying on muzzle loaders.

  • @mattorama
    @mattorama 3 года назад

    Hell yeah, it's Friday night, what are we doing? Absolutely, we're watching a video from Forgotten Weapons.

  • @TatoDwisusanto
    @TatoDwisusanto 3 года назад +3

    Like no. 32, top markotop Muantabe from Jakarta Indonesia 👍.

  • @patrickduis
    @patrickduis 3 года назад

    Excellent episode on this interesting rifle (yes I'm Dutch)

  • @smrts
    @smrts 3 года назад

    I'm now Wondering about what you said with the spring my 1874 doesn't have that spring it has a big block in that place.

  • @albertselman2788
    @albertselman2788 3 года назад

    The 1871 beaumont and it's variants were the service rifle of the armed forces of the netherlands east indies army into the 1900's

  • @Springy_14
    @Springy_14 3 года назад +1

    I have the boxed magazine version

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 3 года назад

    Great history video. Seen many of these in repeater version at gun shows. Always wondered about their history. How odd that they were sent in the white. Wonder how many manufacturers did that. I cant imagine why they chose a v spring over a coil spring. A very poor choice of spring type. So roughly 44 mag rifle velocity shot out to many hundreds of yards farther than we would ever consider shooting today.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      Coil springs are hard to make, while a flat or V spring is easier to do.

  • @nottology
    @nottology 2 года назад

    As an ethiopian who is a descendant from soldiers in that period to explain for future videos warriors/ soldier’s preferred to shoot at close ranges like 50 yrs or less to make sure u got a clean shot and that it was a kill to conserve ammo cuz good ammo was so precious that it was used a currency a lot of the time so thats why they removed sights as such groups tended to prefer to soften up target with several rounds into a group of enemies then sling their various rifles on their backs to go in for the kill and preceded to go with melee weapons for 3 reasons 1 ease of using them 2 confirming the kill 3 to mutilate ur enemy preferably alive and bring back severed body parts as war trophies ( usually castration ) to brag to their families and communities that they were a really solider and not a “soft heart coward who was sitting around being lazy weak like a woman “

  • @juiceFORfunNOTyet
    @juiceFORfunNOTyet 3 года назад

    Благодарю вас за вашу работу, комментарий в поддержку вашего видео

  • @samifyrqvist258
    @samifyrqvist258 3 года назад +1

    Hi Ian. Love your work - have been watching you for good many years now. I know this is a nitpick, but when you talk about the lion stamp on the rifle, it is not "Lion of Judas", but "Lion of Judah". The lion does not refer to Judas the apostle, but Judah the kingdom. Small thing, I know. And it is only said at around 0:45, when talking about the stamp. Otherwise you say Judah quite clearly.

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 2 года назад +1

    Ive bought close to a dozen rifles from RTI none of them had the lion of judah. and only 3 had ethiopian script.

  • @andrewstraub131
    @andrewstraub131 3 года назад +1

    Awesome sauce

  • @martinmorehouse9645
    @martinmorehouse9645 3 года назад

    I had a smoothbore with a bolt like that and an ill-fitting stock a long time ago. It had, I think, Japanese markings. Now I have a better idea what it was, I'll have to look up the Muratas.

  • @Romin.777
    @Romin.777 3 года назад

    That's why i'm depressed, i'm a spring waiting to be released.

  • @basp-ef7jx
    @basp-ef7jx 3 года назад +6

    I have one of those! Mine is converted. Bought in Allentown Pennsylvania. At a store called the Occult Emporium. It's serial number is 666.

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 3 года назад

      Cool!! Is it still shootable or is it just a cool wall decoration?

  • @chrisc5275
    @chrisc5275 3 года назад

    Maybe I missed it but no bayonet fixing? I’m not sure that Ethiopia went in for bayonet fighting but I assume the Dutch would have specified fittings for their military rifles.

    • @davehurst5784
      @davehurst5784 3 года назад +1

      Beaumont infantry rifles used socket bayonets, fitted on the front sight, so no bayonet lug was needed. Beaumont naval rifles had lugs as the rifles were issued with blade bayonets.

  • @mariuskroll829
    @mariuskroll829 3 года назад

    I‘ve got question for the gun-community.
    In WW2 there was a smaller german anti-tank gun. It used 28mm ammo with a barrel which was 28mm at the breach and 20mm at the muzzle, so the round be pressed into a smaller form. Was that concept ever tested for rifles?

  • @ciatangallaghe2485
    @ciatangallaghe2485 3 года назад

    Great Shirt!

  • @Gordonseries385
    @Gordonseries385 3 года назад

    Interesting, a V spring vs a leaf spring, always thought it was a spring. Springs are harder to make.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 3 года назад

    We've got new rifles!! No wait, that was 1,5 century ago. De Beaumont is not a typical Dutch name by the way.