Due to the deeply felt and insightful comments here, it is clear that this very condensed 30 mins video requires further elaboration. To stimulate discussion of this highly important topic, along with others, a new channel will be launched on RUclips with uploads scheduled for autumn 2023. I hope you can participate some more at "The Empty Chair: keeping the mind in mind". The website details are given below. Uploads are planned for autumn 2023. Please click on the UPLOADS menu on the website to SUBSCRIBE to the first releases. You can also DONATE to help fund the research and production of the new videos. tec4mind.com - website Thank you all for your listening and participation. Gratefully yours.
@@mmfuru thanks for your optimism! I would be happy if I can achieve even a tiny dent in the male psyche. Let’s see what happens. See you on the new channel.
The issue arises from the fact that no, that is not an innate thing that all 😊humans have. I think when we open our eyes to what IS innate in others and what is not in other humans…we can have open conversation
I think some people use racism to bond with who they think their ingroup is and exclude the outgroup. As a white person I've had way too many experiences where people have tried to bond with me over racism. They used to feel free to get nasty with you when you disagree, I guess because you've rejected them. So demented, what pathetic people.
This is the best attempt I’ve heard to start chipping away at solving this racism issue. I think Previn is right, the way forward is to start acknowledging that racism is a psychological disorder and then apply psychotherapeutic concepts to social and political issues.
thanks so much for listening. I'm starting a new channel which will be opening up these psychological aspects of racism - you can subscribe now tec4mind.com - hope to see you there and looking forward to more of your thoughts.
I always thought that when it comes to this subject that hate is a learned behavior that’s passed down. It goes beyond racism. Thank you so much for sharing this video 🥰
Since race is only a social construct its not really about hate. Its mostly about dominance and control by dividing and conquering specific groups in order to create a false sense of superiority and inferiority ans of course take all their resources while their at it.
I love how Previn explains racism. I am from Middle East and live in America. I do not think I have ever encountered racism. However, I think people that are referred to as racist are more or less opportunists. Not everyone is highly educated like Previn, as a result they want to bring others down in order to keep their status, job, or anything else that someone has that is a threat.
I've seen racism in all groups and colours. I had an male Italian school friend, and my gf and I visited him. He had to close the door on his mother as she was trying to burst thru to attack us. She was angry that he had two non-Italian girls over for a visit. As he was holding his mother back, he said to us "I think you better go now". Some ppl just want their children to relate to their own ethnicity. My family is white and my son's middle eastern Muslim friend said to him at school one day "Your name is Daniel, that's Jewish" he said tinged with hate. My son said "we're not Jewish, but who cares what my name is?" It's everywhere, and ppl think it's mainly whites on everybody else.
You've seen prejudice in other races. White people are the only people who can be racist, it exists because of them. Your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to accept that though
Yep. There's a gene on the Y chromosome that leads to emotional dysfunction as a goal. Guys then project that developmental deficit onto the world around them, that this abnormality is the norm and anything more evolved is less than them.
I have witnessed, and learned in my college studies, that even within a group of people, those with the lighter skin, the bluer eyes and the lighter hair were held in higher regard than their darker, brown eye and dark haired peers. I currently live in Mexico, and it has not escaped my attention that most of the advertising favors people who look more European than Mexican, and more blonde than most Mexicans. And certainly here, the people of mixed Mexican/European or Spanish descent are more likely to be holding important positions in government and industry.
Thanks for listening. I hope you can join the new channel where this and related topics will be opened out more than was possible in this 30 mins pilot test video: ruclips.net/video/qyyU-JSsgE0/видео.html See you there.
He keeps saying "we are all racist" I disagree. As a little brown girl, I never seen or cared about the color/race of my white friends. As I grew into a teenager...I never cared about the color/race of my friends, I loved them deeply. As a brown woman...after seeing, hearing & experiencing painful situations because of my & my peoples race/skin color, way of speech (Ebonics, which is actually a quite remarkable & creatively clever way of speaking), way of dancing, way of dressing, way of eating, way of BREATHING, I have LEARNED to not be racist towards white people, but to be CAUTIOUS. and before someone says, "this is not a good way to be or think", it is dishonoring the wisdom of the brain. If you see a particular snake bite & kill someone, your brain says, avoid THAT particular kind of snake, yes? THIS is what people of color are doing. It is WISE and the biological way the brain protects us should be respected and not gaslit. Now, how do you reverse the TRAUMA of a brain that has seen people of color hanging from trees, beaten, raped etc, etc, etc, etc....there needs to be ACCOUNTABILITY on the side of the aggressors and oppressors. but we know that will not happen. So, until then, we remain CAUTIOUS and distrustful. They make the move to fix it first, then we will let our guards down. You cannot FORCE people to heal, because you are uncomfortable with the hateful history of your lineage. I'm all for peace & love, but I am also for viciously protecting my people & other groups that are treated unjustly. Keep up with the videos, I think these topics are much needed & thank you. Blessings.
thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Racism is much more complex than what is presented in the 30 mins of this video. I hope you can subscribe to the new channel at www.tec4mind.com where this will be opened out much more along with other related subjects - uploads planned for autumn 2023.
Heck, we are hateful at times even to our own blood within our immediate family, our neighbors, our communities and most has nothing to do with race. Maybe we need greater space and distance between us, instead of 6 degrees of separation, maybe 60 degrees of separation starting at home. I say match up core values and we might have a winning recipe.
A sensitive subject like this needs to be inclusive of all perspectives. Racism is not just a Wyte on Blk issue. It started there but it has since spread to Whyte on Arab, Arab on Blk, Whyte on Asian, Asian or Blk, etc. In all this, there seem to be nuances and a hierarchy.
I think the black/white racism is exemplary because it's overt and clear to the eye. Considering the big contrast in skin colors. It's the most systematic that leads to violence so I think it should be referenced.
Hmm, isn't that what the entire talk is about? They mention people group after people group, nation after nation. Previn even talks about the yt backlash and how that's not okay and how racism isn't solely a yt issue. (They spoke on Palestine, Isreal, Serbes, US, UK, Pakistan, etc.)
There are several issues with this conversation, because the European Countries that Colonised and enslaved other groups, went through the process of normalising Dehumanisation in order to justify, encourage, gain public support and manufacture consent for the abuse and maltreatment of other groups in other countries. Unfortunately, the dehumanising ideas and messages became embedded within the cultures of the European Countries that Colonised and enslaved other groups and still exists in many places within the Global North. This is what gives rise to Racism, and why many people get Triggered when you bring up the History of Abuse that their Forbearers enacted. It is natural to want to feel proud of being affiliated to the group you belong to, but it is difficult to do so when your group identity is connected to something exploitative, abuse and evil. This is the source of the problem and the source of the Racism that still creates rifts between groups whose are descended from people who were victimised and abused, and the people whose identify is connected to a group that enacted such atrocities. Colonialism has clearly harmed the people who fell victim to it, but it has also harmed the people and nations that benefitted from it. This is the real reason that they are Triggered and feel discomfort when discussing Colonisation and Slavery. Yes, people within groups do have their prejudices and hate for other groups, but this can usually be resolved through education and information that was lacking, and is usually the source of the prejudice and hate. But when you combine it with State-Approved Dehumanization that filters into the mainstream culture in order to justify atrocities.......It becomes something else, it becomes something that some people will fight to maintain, and kill to protect. It was a good talk, but there are massive gaps within the topics of discussion, which is par-for-the-course for discussion about Racism in many Countries in the Global North, and until the damage that Dehumanising ideas has done to cultures associated with Colonisation and Slavery has been addressed and repaired, it will never end. But I doubt this will take place, as it will harm their identity and Self Image. Which is something that the victims of those atrocities also still wrestle with today. When one person or group abuses another, both are fundamentally transformed. But fresh unbiased eyes that have the potential to judge and accurately perceive the outcome of colonisation are born every single day and all it takes is the basic application of Empathy that all humans are born with.
thanks for your commentary, all of which I agree with, and which was also acknowledged in the video. The premise of the video was that despite education, history and anti-racist laws, we don't appear to have changed racism or understood its roots. The traditional response that those roots are cultural-educational have not worked to change anything. So I transposed the problem of racism into a psychological frame and looked at the problem as psychological roots common to all peoples. This extends racism beyond the unhelpful stereotype of "colonialism" to look at it as a worldwide phenomenon that occurs in all countries, nations and territories. You may have found this filled with "gaps" but that is because the premise of racism was re-examined and reframed. Regarding the role of the State and military violence, these too have psychological origins, because the question is: what is it in the human mind that makes us create these specific types of violent structures? That again goes beyond European colonialism to look at the problem as an anthropological psychology - some would call it evolutionary psychology. I watched accurate and valid arguments like yours failing for the last 40 years to make a dent in the problem of racism. Perhaps we need to go back to the drawing board and reframe the question(s) we are asking? I've set up a new channel (www.tec4mind.com) to open this up a little more - I've been pulled away on some projects but am hoping to upload videos in the next couple of months. I hope you subscribe so that we can continue the conversation. Thanks for your energy and time.
Thanks for the reply, and, I'll definitely check out the new channel! Here's the key issue with fighting racism: most arguments target the descendants of victims (colonized/enslaved people) who are eager to discuss it. The problem lies with the beneficiaries (colonizers/slaveholders) who often avoid the conversation. Real change requires them to confront their history, even if it means questioning their identity. As a descendant of enslaved Africans, my heritage was ripped away. We have no ancestral history, language, or religion of our own. The legacy of slavery is a deep wound, unexplored and unhealed. For example, as an outcome of Slavery, many victims of colonialism and slavery lack the historical identity some in the West fiercely defend (often ignoring the brutal foundation of that identity). Think about it: if your family got rich by robbing another, would you be proud? Many nations benefited from slavery, and that benefit came at a horrific cost. The path forward? beneficiaries must acknowledge the past and its ongoing effects. They can either: 1) Rethink their national/cultural identity if it's built on exploitation. 2) Take responsibility for the atrocities and their consequences. This is the true hurdle in dismantling racism. However many in the Global North will not do it, as they do not believe that there is any benefit in doing so.
BTW, I just checked out your Website, when clicking on some of the options under the dropdown menu labelled "Uploads". It takes you to a page that says: "There has been a critical error on this website". It might be an issue with the Wordpress, Template you are using. There are better and more cost effective options out there that are a much better Fit for what you are trying to do than Wordpress. Thanks again.
@@garveycampbell80 very tempting to get into a long back and forth with you about the numerous angles/issues you are raising! I'm finishing off editing a book on decolonial critique of European political theory by a German professor - which is one reason I could not get to the new channel! But you can guess that I am again in complete agreement with what you have said. There are so many intersection in what you have written - racial histories, class conflicts, identity and atrocity which leads to the problem of collective guilt, recognition, confession, reparation. Germany and South Africa are two European countries where there has been an attempt at confession and reparation (or at least, repentance), even if only partially successful - the SA "truth and reconciliation" project was a great starting point. But as you admit, none of these work because - to put it bluntly - something is wrong with our mental health when it comes to race. So if we think of racism as a mental health disorder, it may unlock something that can then lead to the kind of outcomes you are looking for? Thanks again for your input and great to see you so engaged and informative on the subject. There will be much I can learn from your comments. But I would say that as an African American you really are privileged in the rich tradition of critical race thinking that America has produced - from the early days of Garvey/Washington through MLK/Malcolm X/black feminism to Kimberley Crenshawe and Cornell West - and so many others.... See you soon!
I don’t understand why children are hungry and have to be fed by the community and the parents are not investigated to see how they are doing? Are they hungry or are they deliberately not feeding their children?
Came here from the previous talk about misogyny (which was very good) but finding this one to be lacking a lot of nuance. There is an issue in putting forward the notion that 'every race hates each other' and then acting as if this assumption is conclusive with little evidence, or proceeding as if there is therefore is no need to directly address the distinct ideology of white supremacy/ structural racism/ colonialism's decisive impact on the power structure of the world for the last few hundred years. What I'm guessing you're actually referring to when you say 'everyone is racist' is the natural human tendency towards 'tribalism' (which is related to, but distinct from racism.) While human beings naturally are tribal/ familial, not all human beings are innately racist. In fact, in many areas in the world throughout history the idea of racial classification as it exists today would have been seen as pretty strange- let's take the example of areas of Asia / Middle East / North Africa- there's literally been thousands of years of genetic exchange, and a diversity of appearance that many people who do not know much about the region wouldn't perhaps imagine. I have a friend from a North Indian family who is brown (looks Indian, but often mistaken for South American), but who's (Indian) grandmother was white-passing: she had green eyes and pale skin, as has been common for hundreds of years in some areas of India and Pakistan. In these areas you'll find tribalism and colourism but not necessarily structural racism or white supremacy. Another example (or, several examples) might be the ways in which various Native American tribes helped and befriended Europeans who arrived in the Americas and helped them survive winters that would have otherwise killed them. If people were innately racist these kinds of exchanges wouldn't happen, but they have, frequently, throughout all of human history, because race is not a biological reality innately realized, but an ideology which has social implications when imposed. Another issue in this video is the dismissive attitude toward the nature of British racism/ white supremacy, by minimizing it in comparison to the US (as if US imperialism and keeping the world in a constant state of war isn't a direct legacy of the Europeans who's decedents now fill most places of power in the US...). The UK has big blood on their hands from ongoing conflicts that have hundreds of year long histories rooted in extracting recourses coupled with 'civilizing' missions ideologically entrenched in racist ideas which included a rejection of nature and those living in a way more integrated with nature. This conversation about race is not only about race but also a conversation about indigenous peoples in resource rich areas and the violent entitlement to the resources certain other groups have. These conflicts have caused so much suffering across continents, political insecurity, and genocides in some cases. Its strange that in the conversation on misogyny the connection to the natural and social world that women tend to have was discussed in relation to how this impacts men's sense of inferiority/ disconnect, but you somehow totally miss it here. Today, cultures highly invested in racial superiority ideologies, be it White supremacy in Europe/ North America or Han supremacy in China, often go hand in hand with capitalist exploitation and exploiting natural resources, while damaging ecosystems in the process. This is because the ideology (or, mental illness, you could call it) cuts human beings off from their place in nature as animals and part of a animal family, and human family. Today the UK, US and Europe hide behind corporate masks- its the same people but they say 'Its not us, its a multinational corporate entity! So it can't be racism or imperialism!' Even when it quite obviously is. Last thing I'll say on this point about the UK is that if you're a person of colour that has grown up there who hasn't received abuse in the nature of the letter read out that was sent to that black woman, hurled at you in the streets, well good for you, you're lucky I guess. And if you think there isn't an issue with racism in the UK police, I'd like to know what you're smoking to maintain this level of delusion... After all, an independent inquiry this very year (2023) concluded the London Metropolitan Police are institutionally racist… As for the dismissive comments about pulling down statues, I think you both quite missed the point. These are figures which are- quite literally- elevated in public spaces. This things impact the public subconscious and unconscious mind. If we really need to have statues we can have great artists, scientists, teachers, musicians- why do we have to put up with symbols of an oppressive empire? Why do you keep having to resort to cultural relativism to defend how the individual 'wasn't that bad for his time'? That's clearly not the issue so much so as the broader symbol of violent conquest that was the making of the British Empire. Why is it you'll tear down a tree with a hundred years of history to erect a tall statue of a 'conquering' man brandishing a sword/ staff/ gun like a phallus, but when people are sick of that nonsense you act like they're tearing down something indispensable and being ridiculous? Wasn't it ridiculous in the first place? To be honest, I physically winced listening to this woman downplay those racist remarks about so called 'locker room banter' because I literally just watched the video on misogyny, where dehumanising remarks aimed at women were admonished by both speakers, and recognized for the abusive behaviour they are, so to have her be so dismissive of the same kind of discrimination just based on race instead of gender... it gave me whiplash. When she made the 'allegedly' comment ... god... I'm glad the other speaker pushed back against that, because its just wild that she could understand the same thing in regard to misogyny but as soon as it came to race, she had to say 'allegedly' and minimize- as if racist exclusion, ridicule and bullying aren't a part of the life experience of people of colour in the UK, when they absolutely are. Talk about 'white woman feminism'... can't help but feel that this conversation would benefit from the perspective of a woman of colour who understands intersectionality well... Anyway, in summary: this isn't simply an 'all races are racist and we must all self reflect' issue. There are other bigger issues regarding dominant and pervasive racial ideologies, and how humanity ideologically understands itself in relation to nature (and therefore, the direction we take with how we treat the planet and how she treats us). There are specific ideologies that are steering us towards exhaustion and exploitation by feeding the superiority of a small group over other beings. These ideologies in some cases are hundreds of years old, and have become entrenched not only in legal systems and power relations between racial groups and different nations, but they have also seeped into our subconscious through social conditioning. These ideologies and their implications need to be understood in a nuanced way in order to be dismantled. In the same way that misogyny can only be fully addressed when men address it, so too can this issue when those who benefit from the exploitation they justify using racial ideologies themselves think critically about them and commit to sharing power equitably and deconditioning their minds from this mentality of superiority and entitlement.
Black people are racist so are white it is a human thing of hate! The ideology construct is a lie when in Ivory Coast it was Arabs and black who created the commerce of selling lessor humans. Ur understanding is based in public school narratives that’s not true
Wow! That's incredibly well explained. I saw exactly what you saw, having just watched the earlier discussion on misogyny. I think the speakers both have some anti blackness that needs addressing. So Ebony received extreme racial abuse and hatred as pushback against BLM, did she? Because anti-black racism in the UK didn't exist before BLM? When it comes to misogyny, there is no doubt in his mind that it's a problem to be laid squarely at the door of men and that they must fix it. But when it comes to anti black racism (and it's telling that black resistance to racism was singled out more than any other) it's partly the fault of those described as black for bringing up history and the injustices of the past, because the injustices of the present have nothing to do with the past, right? And then to talk of black people as being racist to each other without considering whether categorising all people of African descent as belonging to one group actually reflects how we see ourselves. The beef that individuals of African descent sometimes have with each other is cultural in nature, not racial, so it is no more racist than an Englishman ribbing a Frenchman for eating frogs legs. It's scientifically proven that people in Africa are more genetically different from one another than they are from people anywhere else in the world, and yet this white supremacist pseudo science of grouping people by skin colour and hair texture still influences the thinking of so called experts. In fact, as a 'black' person, it never ceases to amaze me how relatively well Africans manage to live in incredibly multi ethnic, multi religious and multi linguistic nations - nations which were not even of their own making. If these two were not so afrophobic in their thinking, it may have dawned on them to ask why Africans seem better able than Europeans to do multiculturalism, but I guess those with white supremacist mindsets (and they don't all have white skin) can't stand to hear anything positive said of their BIG BLACK boogeymen.
I'm glad you said it. From the beginning of the conversation, I felt she downplayed racism from being a purely social construct in order to kind of absolve the huge role that Europeans have had in the development and spread of racism across the globe. When she mentioned that black people in the US were racist towards other black people, I was dumbfounded. I would suggest she does a lot more reading up on these topics. She does not have the range. Quite frankly I believe her viewpoints stem from her own internalized prejudices that she has yet to question and resolve. When she said tearing down statues out of hate. She could not have been more tone deaf smh
Even though I’m the adult child of an alcoholic my mother very much disapproved of discriminating regardless of how we are treated. I’ve discovered that my mother was also a bit of a narcissist and I used to think she was a bad role model but I was wrong as she taught me how not to be 👍
Historically genocidal racial discrimination is the Australian beginning of the story still happening now. You forget how greed can be brutal by dehumanizing the original land holders Killing ....... a hunt for game .... GAME. Greed can never be overlooked in finding an excuse for dehumanization.
Possibly true - but it doesn't work anymore, does it? That psychological state is imploding everywhere - individually (mental health) and collectively (social policy and ecocide). I think we need a different starting point for the diagnosis... Thanks for listening!
Given that many people with mental health conditions deny having a mental health condition, approaching racism as a mental health problem doesn't seem to be any more effective. Systemic and macro racism also exists in the UK. The Brits try to sweep it under the rug. The recent race riots in London wasn't the first time.
While I agree that critical race has caused massve division, my guess is attempting to reframe the dynamic in question as a personality disorder will only make it worse, because it isn't true. I don't have the answer to the problem, but I know another fabrication won't alleviate the situation..It will only cause more back lash. Knowing the difference between your tribe and another can be the difference between life or death in too many situations, both historically, and presently can't be ignored. It will cause back lash in those immune to attempts at social engineering or false narrative shaping, as has critical race theory. In my city, there was a gang war between gangs of the same skin colour, and so members of those gangs signaled their allegiance through the wearing of colours. The ethnicity involved was not white. The city gov't attempted to control fighting at a large local mall, where many of these two gangs lived, by making it illegsl to wear either of those representing colours to the mall. No purple allowed! In America, the same problem, though nit solution, is obvious in gang warfare, with what we call black on black crime or murder. Cripps wear one colour, Bloods, another. To be in one territory while wearing colours belonging to an affilation of the opposing gang, can mean death. To notice the difference is not mental illness, it is survival.. I recall watching a documentary years ago, showing mullosks of some type, maybe coral? It was long ago. Regardless of particulars, the creatures were brightly coloured. I can't remember why, if it was a deliberate experiment or an accident of nature, but several several mullosks of one colour were situated into an area dominated by mullosks of another colour. Time lapsed filming showed the mullosks busy at the task of moving until once again the orange patch of mullosks was solid orange, then yellow patch solid yellow. They did not fight along their borders, but niether did they rest until the colpurs were no mixed. In England, ( I am not English, but the English speaking world well knows of this) there was the class system used as the dividing line between groups, as gangs used coloured bandanas. The rich did not want the poor to be taught to read, as slave owners did want slaves learning to read. Unlike the mollusks who seem to content sticking to their kind, show no need for dominance, which humans often do. That drive is separate from the drive to be with who one considers their own kind, but it certainly piggy backs and makes the situation worse. We aren't mullosks, I'm not implying there isn't a way passed this, but the situation must be approached honestly, or it won't be a solution, it will only be another trade off. Denying our useful biological make up, because in some situations, knowing the difference will keep you alive, and rebranding it mental illness is dangerous to us all, because the people who choose to believe an untruth as decimated by the state become dangerous people. Accepting lies presented as truth in top down decemination creates a brainwashed society, and brainwashed societies are capable of the worst, most diabolical cruelties. Teaching people to ignore reality only benefits thise in power, and those in power are only safe until the population grows aware of and sickens of the lie. Skin colour is only one marker signaling different groups. I was at a protest in Vancouver recently, the million march 4 children. There were definitive camps in that protest, and one camp pursued violence in that demonstration, the other did not. Clothing was a big marker for which camp you were in. I marched with one group, but my clothing style allowed me to walk into the opposing camp, and remain unmolested. If I looked more conservative, or ethically Arab, I would have at the least, been spit on, at worse, attacked. The side I marched with had gay people leading the march, followed by largely white and black and Asian Christians, and Arab and black Muslims. All on one side. Skin colour was not the marker of a different tribe on that march. Even the root politic was not. The Muslims and Christians and non religious parents marched for their rights as parents to protect their children's right to sexual innocence, the gays marched because they feared the opposing side as highly homophobic. Many gay people fear the trans movement, as they do not want children possibly presenting as gay to rail roaded into sterilizing themselves and removing their sex organs because of their sexual preferences. I quite agree. That is what the Iranian govt dkes to gay people, we don't need such brutal actions in our society. But that aside, we had very defined camps. While our side spent much time on the microphone befire the march, as we mustered, stressing our need to be non violent, warning us the opposing camp would likely assault us, the plea was to not return the violence. Instead, we marched with women and children in the center, men on the outside, so that really, in my view, the threat of violence was implied. Even though our side adhered to the request, we were spat on, bullied, cajoled, and sometimes attacked, we restrained. But the fact is, we still had to restrained. The urge to war was still there. Skin colour, religion, biological.sex, even sexual orientation were not the determinents to which camp you were in. But there were decidely two camps. Again, I am not saying I have the solution to the warring that happens when people perceive themselves as being in different camps, I am saying we have to approach the situation with honesty and actual understanding. Rebranding with more dishonesty will, in my view, cause society to deafen to the problem as has happened with critical race theory.
I strongly dislike most bugs. Not included are spiders and ants. They just always want to eat and chill 😂😂😂. No apologies that I can't strongly dislike someone based on their complexion. It's a waste of time. Whoever is ready this, I wish you nothing but happiness, peace, and a successful life!🌏😇💙💜
The toilet paper commentary is hysterical. One look at European history shows that toilet paper was certainly NOT in use. Africans and Natives and Arabs typically washed their bums with water.
I don't know if you two speaking our so-called Christians but if you are you need to read Deuteronomy in the Bible it talks about all the hate and why it is HERE
Every example he used when explaining racisim is referring to white or European individuals, groups, and nations. I do not understand then why is he saying that all individuals are racist. Yes other groups are participants, but black, African ppl are not racist to any other nations. Pls stop that narrative. He needs to really educate his self on that specific topic. I do however agree that ppl that are racist do have a psychological disorder and serious mental issues.
But instead of racism, African black men do participate heavily in group hate called misogyny. This proves the point in the video about humans needing to look down on others and dehumanising those they perceive to be weaker.
@@tfkdandsvkcbut racism is hating another race, and anyone is capable of that. Like there are black people who hate lightskins or white people, and bully them verbally or physically. Africans can do it too.
On minute 18 there is the Racist hate that can emerge from many different people. However within the society and arguably beyond the certain countries there is a power dynamic and institutional dynamic entrenced in a class system. So, when a largest and culturally (or ideologically) prevalent group enact as the 'team sport' that adds a big kick impact on Racism. Recall the minority for instance in certain countries do not control power and certainly have little defence against the power arraigned by the collective media and forces like police. An angry 'Black person' maybe fustrated or experienced reactionary behaviour does not enact such power over whole communities. It is evidence from the decades long struggle with lots of loss of life against Apartheid South African regime supported by the west when native Africans were fighting for their existance in a conflict that came upon them.
thank you for these very relevant comments. I hope you can join the new channel where the relation between race-power acting out systemically in ALL societies will be discussed.
I dislike the word "mullticulturalism". Humans don't multiculture. We are tribal by ancestry and by instinct. I think accepting that will help us all to move forward. Another problem with us humans is that we seem to need someone we can look down on. What we do about that I am not sure, other than abandon economic Libertarianism so that the majority of people have a chance of a decent life .....
Humans have been living amongst eachother snd trading with eachother for tens of thousands of years. There would be no modern humanity if what you were saying is true.
Only a white person will see the benefits. I suppose she thinks Leopold and Belgium did well in the Congo. No one is blaming modern day people for the inhumane, atrocities and torture their ancestors inflected on others. However, they need to be honest, and mindful that why are the beneficiaries of torture…just accept it and move on. Most of Europe wouldn’t have its wealth if they didn’t have a history of industrialised exploitation. Therefore racism is innate in certain groups, and it’s as natural to them as breathing!
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have you launched your new channel? I searched for the empty chair and couldn't find anything.
@@mmfuru apologies for the huge delay. Technical difficulties and wrapping up another project…. Should be there in the next two weeks.
Oh great. Your message will change lives if not the world. @@inthesetimesspeakingforthemind
@@mmfuru thanks for your optimism! I would be happy if I can achieve even a tiny dent in the male psyche. Let’s see what happens. See you on the new channel.
Even as a child I thought racism was a disorder of a weak mind - 30 years plus later I watch this - thanks
There is likely a bidirectional relationship between racism and NPD.
You seem to display the very characteristics you despise in others.
@@Interlocutor67how?
Watch the misogyny video 💜
@@taycassomadethat exactly
Black lives matters is also a movement in Canada. We weren't lynched but definitely faced discrimination in Canada in many covert and overt ways.
There were Black Canadians punched throughout Canadian history, as well as KKK in the province of Saskatchewan.
I think a lot of racism comes from the need that humans have for someone to look down on, and in this it is also bound up with class.
It comes from jealousy about others being independently organized
The issue arises from the fact that no, that is not an innate thing that all 😊humans have. I think when we open our eyes to what IS innate in others and what is not in other humans…we can have open conversation
I think some people use racism to bond with who they think their ingroup is and exclude the outgroup. As a white person I've had way too many experiences where people have tried to bond with me over racism. They used to feel free to get nasty with you when you disagree, I guess because you've rejected them. So demented, what pathetic people.
or maybe from discomfort with the close presence of incompatible people and cultures.
Tribalism and preference for your own kind and group is entirely natural.
This is the best attempt I’ve heard to start chipping away at solving this racism issue. I think Previn is right, the way forward is to start acknowledging that racism is a psychological disorder and then apply psychotherapeutic concepts to social and political issues.
thanks so much for listening. I'm starting a new channel which will be opening up these psychological aspects of racism - you can subscribe now tec4mind.com - hope to see you there and looking forward to more of your thoughts.
I love Previn Karian. He is so brilliant and fascinating to listen to. Well done ITT.
I always thought that when it comes to this subject that hate is a learned behavior that’s passed down. It goes beyond racism. Thank you so much for sharing this video 🥰
Rubbish. Preference for your own kind is instinctive and natural. It is precisely the opposite that is ‘learned behavior.’
Since race is only a social construct its not really about hate. Its mostly about dominance and control by dividing and conquering specific groups in order to create a false sense of superiority and inferiority ans of course take all their resources while their at it.
I love how Previn explains racism. I am from Middle East and live in America. I do not think I have ever encountered racism. However, I think people that are referred to as racist are more or less opportunists. Not everyone is highly educated like Previn, as a result they want to bring others down in order to keep their status, job, or anything else that someone has that is a threat.
Yes
Hopefully this video enlightened you on how Arabs treat and speak aboht the Black people that live amongst them.
I've seen racism in all groups and colours. I had an male Italian school friend, and my gf and I visited him. He had to close the door on his mother as she was trying to burst thru to attack us. She was angry that he had two non-Italian girls over for a visit. As he was holding his mother back, he said to us "I think you better go now". Some ppl just want their children to relate to their own ethnicity. My family is white and my son's middle eastern Muslim friend said to him at school one day "Your name is Daniel, that's Jewish" he said tinged with hate. My son said "we're not Jewish, but who cares what my name is?" It's everywhere, and ppl think it's mainly whites on everybody else.
You've seen prejudice in other races. White people are the only people who can be racist, it exists because of them. Your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to accept that though
So true
Prejudice infiltrates more than race. It also exists in every ideology.
I like this. Excellent stuff.
This Man is wonderful! Such Kind inteligence make me want to have a Date, a debate, wherever with him! We gonna talk for three days straigh
This previan is amazing . Spot on . Group therapy . Look forward to his own show .💫💫💫⭐️✔️
Excellent discussion.
Yep. There's a gene on the Y chromosome that leads to emotional dysfunction as a goal.
Guys then project that developmental deficit onto the world around them, that this abnormality is the norm and anything more evolved is less than them.
And you know this because……
The Y chromosome is severely disordered and dysfunctional
What is the gene called or known as
I have witnessed, and learned in my college studies, that even within a group of people, those with the lighter skin, the bluer eyes and the lighter hair were held in higher regard than their darker, brown eye and dark haired peers. I currently live in Mexico, and it has not escaped my attention that most of the advertising favors people who look more European than Mexican, and more blonde than most Mexicans. And certainly here, the people of mixed Mexican/European or Spanish descent are more likely to be holding important positions in government and industry.
Thanks for listening. I hope you can join the new channel where this and related topics will be opened out more than was possible in this 30 mins pilot test video:
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See you there.
I absolutely love Previn he’s amazing
A wonderfully correct analysis of the male brain, thank you!
He keeps saying "we are all racist" I disagree. As a little brown girl, I never seen or cared about the color/race of my white friends. As I grew into a teenager...I never cared about the color/race of my friends, I loved them deeply. As a brown woman...after seeing, hearing & experiencing painful situations because of my & my peoples race/skin color, way of speech (Ebonics, which is actually a quite remarkable & creatively clever way of speaking), way of dancing, way of dressing, way of eating, way of BREATHING, I have LEARNED to not be racist towards white people, but to be CAUTIOUS. and before someone says, "this is not a good way to be or think", it is dishonoring the wisdom of the brain. If you see a particular snake bite & kill someone, your brain says, avoid THAT particular kind of snake, yes? THIS is what people of color are doing. It is WISE and the biological way the brain protects us should be respected and not gaslit. Now, how do you reverse the TRAUMA of a brain that has seen people of color hanging from trees, beaten, raped etc, etc, etc, etc....there needs to be ACCOUNTABILITY on the side of the aggressors and oppressors. but we know that will not happen. So, until then, we remain CAUTIOUS and distrustful. They make the move to fix it first, then we will let our guards down. You cannot FORCE people to heal, because you are uncomfortable with the hateful history of your lineage. I'm all for peace & love, but I am also for viciously protecting my people & other groups that are treated unjustly. Keep up with the videos, I think these topics are much needed & thank you. Blessings.
thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Racism is much more complex than what is presented in the 30 mins of this video. I hope you can subscribe to the new channel at www.tec4mind.com where this will be opened out much more along with other related subjects - uploads planned for autumn 2023.
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Another great analysis 👏. Thank you so much for this valuable channel.
To: Everyone
Just play nice with each other.
Heck, we are hateful at times even to our own blood within our immediate family, our neighbors, our communities and most has nothing to do with race. Maybe we need greater space and distance between us, instead of 6 degrees of separation, maybe 60 degrees of separation starting at home. I say match up core values and we might have a winning recipe.
A sensitive subject like this needs to be inclusive of all perspectives. Racism is not just a Wyte on Blk issue. It started there but it has since spread to Whyte on Arab, Arab on Blk, Whyte on Asian, Asian or Blk, etc. In all this, there seem to be nuances and a hierarchy.
thank you - and completely agree. I hope to expand on this introductory video on my new channel which I hope you will be able to join.
I think the black/white racism is exemplary because it's overt and clear to the eye. Considering the big contrast in skin colors. It's the most systematic that leads to violence so I think it should be referenced.
Hmm, isn't that what the entire talk is about? They mention people group after people group, nation after nation. Previn even talks about the yt backlash and how that's not okay and how racism isn't solely a yt issue. (They spoke on Palestine, Isreal, Serbes, US, UK, Pakistan, etc.)
@@inthesetimesspeakingforthemind what is your new channel? I can't find it
@@aclark446 if you look at the pinned comment on this page you should have all the details?
There are several issues with this conversation, because the European Countries that Colonised and enslaved other groups, went through the process of normalising Dehumanisation in order to justify, encourage, gain public support and manufacture consent for the abuse and maltreatment of other groups in other countries.
Unfortunately, the dehumanising ideas and messages became embedded within the cultures of the European Countries that Colonised and enslaved other groups and still exists in many places within the Global North. This is what gives rise to Racism, and why many people get Triggered when you bring up the History of Abuse that their Forbearers enacted.
It is natural to want to feel proud of being affiliated to the group you belong to, but it is difficult to do so when your group identity is connected to something exploitative, abuse and evil. This is the source of the problem and the source of the Racism that still creates rifts between groups whose are descended from people who were victimised and abused, and the people whose identify is connected to a group that enacted such atrocities. Colonialism has clearly harmed the people who fell victim to it, but it has also harmed the people and nations that benefitted from it.
This is the real reason that they are Triggered and feel discomfort when discussing Colonisation and Slavery. Yes, people within groups do have their prejudices and hate for other groups, but this can usually be resolved through education and information that was lacking, and is usually the source of the prejudice and hate.
But when you combine it with State-Approved Dehumanization that filters into the mainstream culture in order to justify atrocities.......It becomes something else, it becomes something that some people will fight to maintain, and kill to protect.
It was a good talk, but there are massive gaps within the topics of discussion, which is par-for-the-course for discussion about Racism in many Countries in the Global North, and until the damage that Dehumanising ideas has done to cultures associated with Colonisation and Slavery has been addressed and repaired, it will never end. But I doubt this will take place, as it will harm their identity and Self Image. Which is something that the victims of those atrocities also still wrestle with today.
When one person or group abuses another, both are fundamentally transformed.
But fresh unbiased eyes that have the potential to judge and accurately perceive the outcome of colonisation are born every single day and all it takes is the basic application of Empathy that all humans are born with.
thanks for your commentary, all of which I agree with, and which was also acknowledged in the video. The premise of the video was that despite education, history and anti-racist laws, we don't appear to have changed racism or understood its roots. The traditional response that those roots are cultural-educational have not worked to change anything. So I transposed the problem of racism into a psychological frame and looked at the problem as psychological roots common to all peoples. This extends racism beyond the unhelpful stereotype of "colonialism" to look at it as a worldwide phenomenon that occurs in all countries, nations and territories. You may have found this filled with "gaps" but that is because the premise of racism was re-examined and reframed.
Regarding the role of the State and military violence, these too have psychological origins, because the question is: what is it in the human mind that makes us create these specific types of violent structures? That again goes beyond European colonialism to look at the problem as an anthropological psychology - some would call it evolutionary psychology.
I watched accurate and valid arguments like yours failing for the last 40 years to make a dent in the problem of racism. Perhaps we need to go back to the drawing board and reframe the question(s) we are asking?
I've set up a new channel (www.tec4mind.com) to open this up a little more - I've been pulled away on some projects but am hoping to upload videos in the next couple of months. I hope you subscribe so that we can continue the conversation. Thanks for your energy and time.
Thanks for the reply, and, I'll definitely check out the new channel!
Here's the key issue with fighting racism: most arguments target the descendants of victims (colonized/enslaved people) who are eager to discuss it.
The problem lies with the beneficiaries (colonizers/slaveholders) who often avoid the conversation. Real change requires them to confront their history, even if it means questioning their identity.
As a descendant of enslaved Africans, my heritage was ripped away. We have no ancestral history, language, or religion of our own. The legacy of slavery is a deep wound, unexplored and unhealed.
For example, as an outcome of Slavery, many victims of colonialism and slavery lack the historical identity some in the West fiercely defend (often ignoring the brutal foundation of that identity).
Think about it: if your family got rich by robbing another, would you be proud? Many nations benefited from slavery, and that benefit came at a horrific cost.
The path forward? beneficiaries must acknowledge the past and its ongoing effects. They can either:
1) Rethink their national/cultural identity if it's built on exploitation.
2) Take responsibility for the atrocities and their consequences.
This is the true hurdle in dismantling racism.
However many in the Global North will not do it, as they do not believe that there is any benefit in doing so.
BTW, I just checked out your Website, when clicking on some of the options under the dropdown menu labelled "Uploads".
It takes you to a page that says: "There has been a critical error on this website".
It might be an issue with the Wordpress, Template you are using. There are better and more cost effective options out there that are a much better Fit for what you are trying to do than Wordpress.
Thanks again.
@@garveycampbell80 very tempting to get into a long back and forth with you about the numerous angles/issues you are raising! I'm finishing off editing a book on decolonial critique of European political theory by a German professor - which is one reason I could not get to the new channel! But you can guess that I am again in complete agreement with what you have said.
There are so many intersection in what you have written - racial histories, class conflicts, identity and atrocity which leads to the problem of collective guilt, recognition, confession, reparation. Germany and South Africa are two European countries where there has been an attempt at confession and reparation (or at least, repentance), even if only partially successful - the SA "truth and reconciliation" project was a great starting point. But as you admit, none of these work because - to put it bluntly - something is wrong with our mental health when it comes to race. So if we think of racism as a mental health disorder, it may unlock something that can then lead to the kind of outcomes you are looking for?
Thanks again for your input and great to see you so engaged and informative on the subject. There will be much I can learn from your comments. But I would say that as an African American you really are privileged in the rich tradition of critical race thinking that America has produced - from the early days of Garvey/Washington through MLK/Malcolm X/black feminism to Kimberley Crenshawe and Cornell West - and so many others.... See you soon!
@@inthesetimesspeakingforthemind Your admission of Temptation is the best professional compliment I've had this week, Thanks👍
That letter wow;
It truly madness 😢😮
There are not only black people and white people. There are myriads of various kinds of people and variety has not stopped racism.
It certainly helps
I don’t understand why children are hungry and have to be fed by the community and the parents are not investigated to see how they are doing? Are they hungry or are they deliberately not feeding their children?
Great
Came here from the previous talk about misogyny (which was very good) but finding this one to be lacking a lot of nuance.
There is an issue in putting forward the notion that 'every race hates each other' and then acting as if this assumption is conclusive with little evidence, or proceeding as if there is therefore is no need to directly address the distinct ideology of white supremacy/ structural racism/ colonialism's decisive impact on the power structure of the world for the last few hundred years. What I'm guessing you're actually referring to when you say 'everyone is racist' is the natural human tendency towards 'tribalism' (which is related to, but distinct from racism.) While human beings naturally are tribal/ familial, not all human beings are innately racist. In fact, in many areas in the world throughout history the idea of racial classification as it exists today would have been seen as pretty strange- let's take the example of areas of Asia / Middle East / North Africa- there's literally been thousands of years of genetic exchange, and a diversity of appearance that many people who do not know much about the region wouldn't perhaps imagine. I have a friend from a North Indian family who is brown (looks Indian, but often mistaken for South American), but who's (Indian) grandmother was white-passing: she had green eyes and pale skin, as has been common for hundreds of years in some areas of India and Pakistan. In these areas you'll find tribalism and colourism but not necessarily structural racism or white supremacy. Another example (or, several examples) might be the ways in which various Native American tribes helped and befriended Europeans who arrived in the Americas and helped them survive winters that would have otherwise killed them. If people were innately racist these kinds of exchanges wouldn't happen, but they have, frequently, throughout all of human history, because race is not a biological reality innately realized, but an ideology which has social implications when imposed.
Another issue in this video is the dismissive attitude toward the nature of British racism/ white supremacy, by minimizing it in comparison to the US (as if US imperialism and keeping the world in a constant state of war isn't a direct legacy of the Europeans who's decedents now fill most places of power in the US...). The UK has big blood on their hands from ongoing conflicts that have hundreds of year long histories rooted in extracting recourses coupled with 'civilizing' missions ideologically entrenched in racist ideas which included a rejection of nature and those living in a way more integrated with nature. This conversation about race is not only about race but also a conversation about indigenous peoples in resource rich areas and the violent entitlement to the resources certain other groups have. These conflicts have caused so much suffering across continents, political insecurity, and genocides in some cases. Its strange that in the conversation on misogyny the connection to the natural and social world that women tend to have was discussed in relation to how this impacts men's sense of inferiority/ disconnect, but you somehow totally miss it here. Today, cultures highly invested in racial superiority ideologies, be it White supremacy in Europe/ North America or Han supremacy in China, often go hand in hand with capitalist exploitation and exploiting natural resources, while damaging ecosystems in the process. This is because the ideology (or, mental illness, you could call it) cuts human beings off from their place in nature as animals and part of a animal family, and human family. Today the UK, US and Europe hide behind corporate masks- its the same people but they say 'Its not us, its a multinational corporate entity! So it can't be racism or imperialism!' Even when it quite obviously is. Last thing I'll say on this point about the UK is that if you're a person of colour that has grown up there who hasn't received abuse in the nature of the letter read out that was sent to that black woman, hurled at you in the streets, well good for you, you're lucky I guess. And if you think there isn't an issue with racism in the UK police, I'd like to know what you're smoking to maintain this level of delusion... After all, an independent inquiry this very year (2023) concluded the London Metropolitan Police are institutionally racist…
As for the dismissive comments about pulling down statues, I think you both quite missed the point. These are figures which are- quite literally- elevated in public spaces. This things impact the public subconscious and unconscious mind. If we really need to have statues we can have great artists, scientists, teachers, musicians- why do we have to put up with symbols of an oppressive empire? Why do you keep having to resort to cultural relativism to defend how the individual 'wasn't that bad for his time'? That's clearly not the issue so much so as the broader symbol of violent conquest that was the making of the British Empire. Why is it you'll tear down a tree with a hundred years of history to erect a tall statue of a 'conquering' man brandishing a sword/ staff/ gun like a phallus, but when people are sick of that nonsense you act like they're tearing down something indispensable and being ridiculous? Wasn't it ridiculous in the first place?
To be honest, I physically winced listening to this woman downplay those racist remarks about so called 'locker room banter' because I literally just watched the video on misogyny, where dehumanising remarks aimed at women were admonished by both speakers, and recognized for the abusive behaviour they are, so to have her be so dismissive of the same kind of discrimination just based on race instead of gender... it gave me whiplash. When she made the 'allegedly' comment ... god... I'm glad the other speaker pushed back against that, because its just wild that she could understand the same thing in regard to misogyny but as soon as it came to race, she had to say 'allegedly' and minimize- as if racist exclusion, ridicule and bullying aren't a part of the life experience of people of colour in the UK, when they absolutely are. Talk about 'white woman feminism'... can't help but feel that this conversation would benefit from the perspective of a woman of colour who understands intersectionality well...
Anyway, in summary: this isn't simply an 'all races are racist and we must all self reflect' issue. There are other bigger issues regarding dominant and pervasive racial ideologies, and how humanity ideologically understands itself in relation to nature (and therefore, the direction we take with how we treat the planet and how she treats us). There are specific ideologies that are steering us towards exhaustion and exploitation by feeding the superiority of a small group over other beings. These ideologies in some cases are hundreds of years old, and have become entrenched not only in legal systems and power relations between racial groups and different nations, but they have also seeped into our subconscious through social conditioning. These ideologies and their implications need to be understood in a nuanced way in order to be dismantled. In the same way that misogyny can only be fully addressed when men address it, so too can this issue when those who benefit from the exploitation they justify using racial ideologies themselves think critically about them and commit to sharing power equitably and deconditioning their minds from this mentality of superiority and entitlement.
Good. Thanks.
Black people are racist so are white it is a human thing of hate! The ideology construct is a lie when in Ivory Coast it was Arabs and black who created the commerce of selling lessor humans. Ur understanding is based in public school narratives that’s not true
Well said!
Wow! That's incredibly well explained. I saw exactly what you saw, having just watched the earlier discussion on misogyny. I think the speakers both have some anti blackness that needs addressing. So Ebony received extreme racial abuse and hatred as pushback against BLM, did she? Because anti-black racism in the UK didn't exist before BLM? When it comes to misogyny, there is no doubt in his mind that it's a problem to be laid squarely at the door of men and that they must fix it. But when it comes to anti black racism (and it's telling that black resistance to racism was singled out more than any other) it's partly the fault of those described as black for bringing up history and the injustices of the past, because the injustices of the present have nothing to do with the past, right? And then to talk of black people as being racist to each other without considering whether categorising all people of African descent as belonging to one group actually reflects how we see ourselves. The beef that individuals of African descent sometimes have with each other is cultural in nature, not racial, so it is no more racist than an Englishman ribbing a Frenchman for eating frogs legs. It's scientifically proven that people in Africa are more genetically different from one another than they are from people anywhere else in the world, and yet this white supremacist pseudo science of grouping people by skin colour and hair texture still influences the thinking of so called experts. In fact, as a 'black' person, it never ceases to amaze me how relatively well Africans manage to live in incredibly multi ethnic, multi religious and multi linguistic nations - nations which were not even of their own making. If these two were not so afrophobic in their thinking, it may have dawned on them to ask why Africans seem better able than Europeans to do multiculturalism, but I guess those with white supremacist mindsets (and they don't all have white skin) can't stand to hear anything positive said of their BIG BLACK boogeymen.
I'm glad you said it. From the beginning of the conversation, I felt she downplayed racism from being a purely social construct in order to kind of absolve the huge role that Europeans have had in the development and spread of racism across the globe. When she mentioned that black people in the US were racist towards other black people, I was dumbfounded. I would suggest she does a lot more reading up on these topics. She does not have the range. Quite frankly I believe her viewpoints stem from her own internalized prejudices that she has yet to question and resolve. When she said tearing down statues out of hate. She could not have been more tone deaf smh
Palestines are considered semites too.
Even though I’m the adult child of an alcoholic my mother very much disapproved of discriminating regardless of how we are treated. I’ve discovered that my mother was also a bit of a narcissist and I used to think she was a bad role model but I was wrong as she taught me how not to be 👍
Historically
genocidal racial discrimination is the Australian beginning of the story
still happening now.
You forget how greed can be brutal by dehumanizing the original land holders
Killing ....... a hunt for game .... GAME.
Greed can never be overlooked in finding an excuse for dehumanization.
Ableism next PLEASE
“FIGHTING WORDS” Is not covered under free speech
I think it is
You'll have to pay a deductible for those lol
28:57 There are women who have asked this question actually. I would urge you to consider digging deeper
Priven , some peoplle just love to hate .
Their hate keeps them alive .
Anger is an energy .
They live to hate . 😊
They have a team called me
Possibly true - but it doesn't work anymore, does it? That psychological state is imploding everywhere - individually (mental health) and collectively (social policy and ecocide). I think we need a different starting point for the diagnosis... Thanks for listening!
@@inthesetimesspeakingforthemind Before the ending thresholds of reality .
Given that many people with mental health conditions deny having a mental health condition, approaching racism as a mental health problem doesn't seem to be any more effective. Systemic and macro racism also exists in the UK. The Brits try to sweep it under the rug. The recent race riots in London wasn't the first time.
While I agree that critical race has caused massve division, my guess is attempting to reframe the dynamic in question as a personality disorder will only make it worse, because it isn't true.
I don't have the answer to the problem, but I know another fabrication won't alleviate the situation..It will only cause more back lash.
Knowing the difference between your tribe and another can be the difference between life or death in too many situations, both historically, and presently can't be ignored. It will cause back lash in those immune to attempts at social engineering or false narrative shaping, as has critical race theory.
In my city, there was a gang war between gangs of the same skin colour, and so members of those gangs signaled their allegiance through the wearing of colours.
The ethnicity involved was not white. The city gov't attempted to control fighting at a large local mall, where many of these two gangs lived, by making it illegsl to wear either of those representing colours to the mall. No purple allowed!
In America, the same problem, though nit solution, is obvious in gang warfare, with what we call black on black crime or murder.
Cripps wear one colour, Bloods, another.
To be in one territory while wearing colours belonging to an affilation of the opposing gang, can mean death.
To notice the difference is not mental illness, it is survival..
I recall watching a documentary years ago, showing mullosks of some type, maybe coral? It was long ago. Regardless of particulars, the creatures were brightly coloured.
I can't remember why, if it was a deliberate experiment or an accident of nature, but several several mullosks of one colour were situated into an area dominated by mullosks of another colour.
Time lapsed filming showed the mullosks busy at the task of moving until once again the orange patch of mullosks was solid orange, then yellow patch solid yellow. They did not fight along their borders, but niether did they rest until the colpurs were no mixed.
In England, ( I am not English, but the English speaking world well knows of this) there was the class system used as the dividing line between groups, as gangs used coloured bandanas.
The rich did not want the poor to be taught to read, as slave owners did want slaves learning to read.
Unlike the mollusks who seem to content sticking to their kind, show no need for dominance, which humans often do. That drive is separate from the drive to be with who one considers their own kind, but it certainly piggy backs and makes the situation worse.
We aren't mullosks, I'm not implying there isn't a way passed this, but the situation must be approached honestly, or it won't be a solution, it will only be another trade off.
Denying our useful biological make up, because in some situations, knowing the difference will keep you alive, and rebranding it mental illness is dangerous to us all, because the people who choose to believe an untruth as decimated by the state become dangerous people.
Accepting lies presented as truth in top down decemination creates a brainwashed society, and brainwashed societies are capable of the worst, most diabolical cruelties.
Teaching people to ignore reality only benefits thise in power, and those in power are only safe until the population grows aware of and sickens of the lie.
Skin colour is only one marker signaling different groups.
I was at a protest in Vancouver recently, the million march 4 children.
There were definitive camps in that protest, and one camp pursued violence in that demonstration, the other did not.
Clothing was a big marker for which camp you were in.
I marched with one group, but my clothing style allowed me to walk into the opposing camp, and remain unmolested. If I looked more conservative, or ethically Arab, I would have at the least, been spit on, at worse, attacked.
The side I marched with had gay people leading the march, followed by largely white and black and Asian Christians, and Arab and black Muslims.
All on one side. Skin colour was not the marker of a different tribe on that march.
Even the root politic was not.
The Muslims and Christians and non religious parents marched for their rights as parents to protect their children's right to sexual innocence, the gays marched because they feared the opposing side as highly homophobic.
Many gay people fear the trans movement, as they do not want children possibly presenting as gay to rail roaded into sterilizing themselves and removing their sex organs because of their sexual preferences. I quite agree.
That is what the Iranian govt dkes to gay people, we don't need such brutal actions in our society.
But that aside, we had very defined camps.
While our side spent much time on the microphone befire the march, as we mustered, stressing our need to be non violent, warning us the opposing camp would likely assault us, the plea was to not return the violence.
Instead, we marched with women and children in the center, men on the outside, so that really, in my view, the threat of violence was implied.
Even though our side adhered to the request, we were spat on, bullied, cajoled, and sometimes attacked, we restrained.
But the fact is, we still had to restrained. The urge to war was still there. Skin colour, religion, biological.sex, even sexual orientation were not the determinents to which camp you were in.
But there were decidely two camps.
Again, I am not saying I have the solution to the warring that happens when people perceive themselves as being in different camps, I am saying we have to approach the situation with honesty and actual understanding.
Rebranding with more dishonesty will, in my view, cause society to deafen to the problem as has happened with critical race theory.
Excellent...!
I strongly dislike most bugs. Not included are spiders and ants. They just always want to eat and chill 😂😂😂. No apologies that I can't strongly dislike someone based on their complexion. It's a waste of time. Whoever is ready this, I wish you nothing but happiness, peace, and a successful life!🌏😇💙💜
The toilet paper commentary is hysterical. One look at European history shows that toilet paper was certainly NOT in use. Africans and Natives and Arabs typically washed their bums with water.
Wow the interviewer showed a implicit bias....quite prickly...interesting.
I don't know if you two speaking our so-called Christians but if you are you need to read Deuteronomy in the Bible it talks about all the hate and why it is HERE
Every example he used when explaining racisim is referring to white or European individuals, groups, and nations. I do not understand then why is he saying that all individuals are racist. Yes other groups are participants, but black, African ppl are not racist to any other nations. Pls stop that narrative. He needs to really educate his self on that specific topic. I do however agree that ppl that are racist do have a psychological disorder and serious mental issues.
African people are not racist? You must have been living under a rock.
@@dawnemile7499 Africans are not racists because racism is a system of power and.oppression
@@tfkdandsvkc That is your idea. So you believe that all Africans have no power and oppress noone?
But instead of racism, African black men do participate heavily in group hate called misogyny. This proves the point in the video about humans needing to look down on others and dehumanising those they perceive to be weaker.
@@tfkdandsvkcbut racism is hating another race, and anyone is capable of that. Like there are black people who hate lightskins or white people, and bully them verbally or physically. Africans can do it too.
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On minute 18 there is the Racist hate that can emerge from many different people. However within the society and arguably beyond the certain countries there is a power dynamic and institutional dynamic entrenced in a class system. So, when a largest and culturally (or ideologically) prevalent group enact as the 'team sport' that adds a big kick impact on Racism. Recall the minority for instance in certain countries do not control power and certainly have little defence against the power arraigned by the collective media and forces like police. An angry 'Black person' maybe fustrated or experienced reactionary behaviour does not enact such power over whole communities. It is evidence from the decades long struggle with lots of loss of life against Apartheid South African regime supported by the west when native Africans were fighting for their existance in a conflict that came upon them.
thank you for these very relevant comments. I hope you can join the new channel where the relation between race-power acting out systemically in ALL societies will be discussed.
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I dislike the word "mullticulturalism". Humans don't multiculture. We are tribal by ancestry and by instinct. I think accepting that will help us all to move forward. Another problem with us humans is that we seem to need someone we can look down on. What we do about that I am not sure, other than abandon economic Libertarianism so that the majority of people have a chance of a decent life .....
Humans have been living amongst eachother snd trading with eachother for tens of thousands of years. There would be no modern humanity if what you were saying is true.
What did Rhodes do that mitigates the terror? TERROR?
Only a white person will see the benefits. I suppose she thinks Leopold and Belgium did well in the Congo.
No one is blaming modern day people for the inhumane, atrocities and torture their ancestors inflected on others. However, they need to be honest, and mindful that why are the beneficiaries of torture…just accept it and move on.
Most of Europe wouldn’t have its wealth if they didn’t have a history of industrialised exploitation.
Therefore racism is innate in certain groups, and it’s as natural to them as breathing!
No, I am not racist and never been.
Everyone is racist unfortunately
It is taught. Everything seems to be a disorder to him.
ZENOPHOBIA IS AN EVOLUTIONARY BENEFIT TO SOCIETIES! WITHOUT IT WE GET THIS NIGHTMARE!! ZENOPHOBIA IS A GOOD THING AND FOR OUR BENEFIT !!