Heres my theory, the Paladin tank doesn't know how to repair gear. He's walking around with red gear all the time and thinks he replaces it in dungeons.
What's missing is certain people having the humility to recognize that just because a class is "meta", does not mean you will have guaranteed success. Sadly, this is very prevalent with FOTM classes. Great vid! :D
Souph is a counterspell that switches the polarity of magnets that the mobs wear...preventing him and that giant shield from getting sucked outta consecrate haha
Perfect storm right here-Necrotic Wake is one of the dungeons where it either goes really good or really bad at the start. Pally tank is either really squishy or a powerhouse, all depending on how you play it. And somehow, your hoodie made this all the better. Almost like Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin in Spiderman NWH
paladin can sometimes have a hard time keeping mitigation up 100% of the time and can make them feel spikey, but this guy being deleted instantly after bubble when he should had several SotR going by now is hilarious
I looked him up and he's running 13K mastery, 3k higher than needed for 100% block (need 9.4k with shaman, 10.6k w/o) with WoG and AS block procs. Doesn't change the fact that he turned his back w/o bubble up
Watching this paladin tank drop consecrate, toss his shield, and then walk past the consecrate/pack so he can get melee'd in the butt multiple times in a row is peak physical comedy. Bravo!
Reminds me of when a friend of mine died to a one shot mechanic, got brezzed and then I just heard "shit I forgot to repair" over discord. He was then with a broken shield as prot warrior mid boss fight and he still survived longer than that paladin to the 4 mobs. So maybe he had broken gear (to give him the benefit of the doubt; everyone has brain outages like that sometimes)
As a brazilian, the thing with the soothe is that he probably just hears other people saying it (friends and videos) but don't know how to actually type it. This is very common here as we end up borrowing some terms from English, specially ingame., They become popular, but people never see the actual spelling.
@@Zka77-e1f ya I know it can but this fella is just Brazilian. They make mistakes like this all the time because they only hear the word said, never typed.
I play brew, due to the spec being bad (noone plays it) I've got to #2 on the connected realm pool with barely 2800 rating :D Gonna be #1 in a few days. Feels good, definitely feels better than struggling with a FOTM reroll :D
I'm just going to assume he got boosted. I can't think of any other way he'd be double upgrading 10s and doesnt know to stand in Consecration or to start casting hammers before a pull so you can Shield of the Righteous when you get to the pack
@@chopthatpanda the turnaround on his RIO there's no way unless he's either boosted or someone else in the player's house is the slammer but isn't always the person behind the keyboard. already +12 Dawn and ++11 NW & MoTS
or he may just learning a new class and misplayed it. It's not like you've never misplayed yourself Also not sure how can you boost a tank, pretty sure no one would do it for you
This guy is def BR because he has an accent in his name and the nick of his Main is related to a famous brazillian singer/meme person. The word "soothe" sounds a bit like "souph" when you say it outloud being a native portuguese speaker. Can relate to that as a BR myself.
I’m pretty sure those mobs at the start will jump to the person farthest away from the tank unless they stand within 5 yards? Unless I’m mixing them up with the mobs from mists.
Dude getting hit in the back probly kinda looks like hes stood in the middle of the pack rather than tanking all the mobs to the front on one of the edges of the pack
Apparently he used no blessed hammer, so he went into packs without Shield of the Righteous, and just collapsed to melee. Was funny thou, i also laughed when i did this on a nw 10 with some friends sporting 587i lvl on my alt prot pala. We all laughed and my friend dK end up tanking most of the mobs with unholy spamming death strike. And fyi, the singing was scary! xD
Prot pally is squishy if not played properly, but if played well, are super OP because of the utility they provide to the group. But if you aren't maintaining your active mitigation, if you aren't sitting in your Consecrate, and you aren't using Avenger's Shield off CD (gives 30% block chance), you will die. Because they have the smallest HP pool of tanks(AFAIK), they are the most punished for unmitigated hits.
Update: He timed a 12 Dawn and has ++11 NW and ++11 Mists...how? Only 2 things I can think: 1) Two different people play this account/tanks 2) Actively boosted account Either way its painful for anyone pugging and relying on his rio
Ran a 10 COT with a guardian druid that had completed it on a 10 prior.. first mob of dungeon instantly died 2 times. Then after second boss died to first mob 2 times in a row and kept over-pulling even after he was dying. Then before 3rd boss died again and blamed healer and left .. clearly boosted
That Pala tank experience is what I'm used to seeing as a healer whenever I was unfortunate enough to queue with a paladin tank. Either they are godly and never die, or they're wet paper. There is nothing in between. Same as Monks, DHs and DKs. It seems quite rough out for tanking atm in general as any mistake get you to just an unending wipefest.
These are the people asking for m+ to be nerfed. 😂😂😂😂 I had a similar situation with a 2500 prot war 639 and went into this pack with 0 defensive. Died and went ???
Had tank do this to us in GB. He kept wiping us on red drake pack since he pulled all+corridor and instantly fell over since his gear was low and defensive uptime bad. The sad part is that it was easily in time if he pulled smaller packs, first time I've seen a deplete with three dudes doing over 1.2 m dps on overall.
Prot is "the best" because they can pump damage and have some cheese. theyre actually fairly hard to play because you need to focus on defensives alot to stay alive, as well as SoTR and 100% spellblock
@@heythereguysitsMetro One thing that isnt as obvious to some players when learning Prot Paladin is that you actually have to Blessed Hammer the Air a couple of times to generate Holy Power so you can Shield of Righteous first thing in the pack to get active mit up. Instead of spending like 4 GCDs in the pack to do it. Not that intuitive.
@@xzalean it is if you think about it, before you go into a m+10. only thing would be if he is specced in hotr, but he is clearly specced into aoe whirlwind hammertime. him not running dropping them on the way tells me that this player never actually playes this char.
2:17 I keep waiting for a consecration and I see only 1 Blessed Hammer, he's not generating any holy power. This video is best summed up as: "what the f**k is going on?"
im currently 630 frost dk and only just reached 2509 (reached this score all through pugging lol) as of a few days ago this late! this has been the absolute worst season for me!
@@heythereguysitsMetro I wish a mate of mine (frost mage) had recorded his run where he only received 100K healing which was overall!!!!! and was wined at him saying he needs to learn the dung as he kept dying alot and had to ice block and my mate linked the healing figures and was like "look at those numbers and say that to me again!!" the tank asked to see the numbers and was like "yh that is a problem" ill have to try and record and delete every key and save any juicy drama!
Had a prot pally yesterday in a 10 dawnbreaker kept getting deleted on first boss. Thought a 10 dawn would be easy just to fill me vault slots but we wiped twice on first boss to tank just being delted dude was 629 thought he would be ok, he was not ok, not ok at all.
No shield of the righteous. This is why when people say prot pally is meta it pisses me off as a prot pally main. We don’t have legitimate defensive like other tanks, what we have are gimmicks to stay alive. Looking at it, he was supposed to build up holy power for sotr and then pull the first mobs, into the ones at the bottom of the stairs then use avengers shield to grab/silence the big guy. After that use bubble while using sotr every moment you can. Being “survivable” all depends on having shield of the righteous up, it’s a passive defensive ability as it gives armor at best but doesn’t make you block or parry or anything like that, we use mastery or crit for that. Before every pull you build up sotr and try to keep it up the entire dungeon, at no point should you not have it and it’s especially stressful this xpac. I had a WA made so I could track it . The minute it falls off it’s installed death and sure the time increases if you reapply before it runs out but the armor is capped and you have to get at least two off before it’s timer goes to like 10 seconds if I remember correctly it usually 4 before you have to reapply to get more time from it. It’s stressful and bad design but people think it’s broken bcos if does a bunch of dps. A tanks job is to survive the dmg
I'm going to defend the pally in this video. Whilst yes, he popped AD maybe 3 seconds too early, you're right, it is a BDK situation. If you aren't throwing up your next major defensive during the previous major defensive, you are just going to fall over and die within a global, when the pull is that big. Not that this guy was a spitting example of what a prot paladin could/should be
Oh yeah, the whole "We need a prot pally" thing. I think it's the damage and that they can immune damage once every (3 minutes according to CDs, but the talents reduce the CD) 90seconds and that survivability is why prot pally is the tank of choice ATM. Kinda like. The damage going out on tanks is so massive, that the only tank with a true immunity to damage is good... Maths insues
The reason bad paladin tanks get deleted is due to the amount of buffs they need to get and keep active: Missing consecration buff = dead Missing Shield of the Righteous buff = dead Missing Ardent Defender or another DR during gather = probably dead Missing +10% block chance for 10s and 25% parry chance for 15s from throwing Avenger's Shield = Dead (Barricade of Faith + Strength in Adversity) Missing +30% block chance for 6s from casting Word of Glory = Danger (Faith in the Light) Lose your 5% armor buff (it disappears if you change talents at all or overwrite with weapon oil) = Danger (Right of Sanctification hero talent for Lightsmith) If a pally tank runs in to a pack of mobs while not having all these buffs active, they will be in big danger.
He didnt gather holy power before pull and it looks like he didnt use consecration. He used Wings, Divine toll, Divine shield, Ardent defender all at the same time. Kinda suprised he didnt pop kings also, Dont know if eye of tyr is still used or not. since healers omnicd isnt showing it. Havent played paladin since DF. Evoker popped his cd right at the start of the pull.
You cannot just run into a stack without holy power build up or double def cd’s up. This prot made one error after the other! First attempt was 1/2 good but he crossed over bubble and cd’s. The 2nd and 3rd time it’s no holy power and not staying in consecration. Look for holy power addon with any prot pally.
I might be wrong on this (cause I seen other youtubers make videos on the state of tanks as well as which ones are the hardest to play to easiest with Monk and Prot paladin coming in as the hardest tanks due to how unforgiving they are if you mess up defensives and what not.) I think either the prot pally is either new to tanking on that class or just being ignorant just to be ignorant but this might be a bad opinion due to me not being a tank for a long time but I've seen this type of stuff though back during pve days
Situations like this are a real mystery to me sometimes. You look at his performance here and then you look at his performance history and it just doesn't add up. I can easily say he got boosted, but does that mean he also got boosted on his main tank? Is the person playing the character in this vod not the actual owner of the character thus explaining the poor gameplay? Really, too many questions I have for cases like this lmao. That priest kicking him tho, they knew they were in for a ride and saved themselves the headache hahaha
Alright no holy power build up at the start, picks up shield and tosses judgment on the first mob leaving the other 3 with no threat, sends his shield to grab threat (generally you send the shield at the caster in 2nd pack) uses blessed hammer so now has 2 holy power, likely uses divine toll and then a SotR during this time he has no aggro on 2nd pack which is what kills the evoker. So running in gathering the pack he has no activity mitigation up, not aggro on all which is when he bubble taunts (assuming he’s specked into it) and then uses argent during bubble? Lol once they drop off he’s dead. Judging by how he gathered the pull, he’s inexperienced and had mobs behind him which deleted him. Likely saw this pull on a Yoda video and though he could do it.
Paladin is not in a weird state. It's in the same state it's been in for all of Dragonflight. You need to be in some form of active mitigation (+SotR+Conc) to live trash. This paladin needed to hit Guardian of Ancient Kings as AD fell off. They never seem to cast GoAK in the entirety of the (very short) key, in fact.
@@heythereguysitsMetro not to be overly elitist, but its really just a skill issue. You can definitely die if you aren't set up the way I described (which is essentially 3 layers of mitigation), which can make a Paladin particularly squishy right on pull if they aren't playing correctly. But its totally doable to farm holy power and drop consecrate (while taking the 4 second lingering talent) so that you're ready right when the mobs hit. Dying in the middle of a pull after your bubble drops while you have a 50% DR off CD (as well as the 20% shield item, as you mentioned) is completely unforgiveable though.
ngl, the wipe right before the healer kicks the tank is the healer’s fault for the that specific wipe Every GCD in the world and nothing was used for that pull, healer should have been actually healing it
He was doing his damage roation right it's just his heals and defence rotation that he's getting all wrong. Concencrate should've been the first thing he drops after bubble for it's passive DR. Besides prot pally is probably the easiest tank to play this season.
It's always very bad when prot paladin is the meta because this shows you how bad of a tank most people are. Tanks like warrior, druid, monk are 'most' of the time just fine passively if they don't use anything on those keylvls. Paladin actually needs to cycle through defensives and has to stay in conc all the time or you will just fall over.
He needs to keep Shield of the righteous up and stay in consecration for basic mitigation… it doesn’t feel great but it’s how you stay alive … this bro clearly doesn’t like doing these things
i mean its impossible to die on pally if u just pop avenging wrath early, and u still have bulwark,argent defender, ur 50%, ur glorious moment, ur spellwarding and ur bubble. also use ur consecrate and sotr corectly. Paladin isnt the problem here, its more the people that hear pala is s tier tank, and assume they dont need to be able to play it that for.
The average player has no idea how the game actually works, they just do whatever they're told. People see prot paly in the highest keys and assume it's because they're really tanky. I've been healing at a high level for plenty years now. Apart from maybe brewmaster monk, there is nothing squishier than a prot paly right now. Even the best players in the world need babysat with that spec, watch the streams. It's their DMG and externals.
I really can't understand how this guy got that IO given the performance shown in this video. Maybe he was letting his little brother try to tank or something? The person in tanking in this video is not capable of getting that IO (by tanking), yet they have it....
@@heythereguysitsMetro oh sweet. I didn't expect to actually get anything, but looking forward to that anyways! I completely forgot that channel even existed
@saetchs gotcha ya it's basically only for Pokemon TCG ATM but I do want to eventually do other games. I had started a pokemon game let's play too but I haven't been able to play it since the expansion launched basically.
pallies are only squishy if u don't know how to play it i can guarantee that pally didn't have sotr up at all shield of the Righteous which is a 40% physical damage reduction it should be up like 100% of the time or damn close to it explains why he dies so fast also had back to mobs yep this is pugs in a nuthsell.
Probably stuck on 11/12 with his BDK and tried a Meta class. He prob died with adds sticking in his back in combination with poor use of abilities based how he used his consecration en CD rotation..
Bars on the right are better if you are a right handed player. There are actually studies on this. Your mouse hand being in the same side as your focus leads to better reaction time. It probably doesn't actually matter in this game though.
I've been looking through MoP videos in anticipation for mists classic and I came across this video ruclips.net/video/ZoXNA_yCDmQ/видео.html . I didn't know you did holy paladin back in mists but I thought that was kind of cool to just happen across.
Hahaha wtf Metro, i thought it was a bear at the start , yah paladin tanks, they need to rotate in cd as much as blood dk, I start healing again and I have seen good numbers of tanks like this guy, probably a beginning, healer usage of barrier did not help the situation either
@@heythereguysitsMetro He only ran 10s and sometimes 11s for a while there and then in the last 2 weeks he cleared 12s all at once. Looking at his warcraft logs really makes his BDK look questionable to be doing 12s.
Heres my theory, the Paladin tank doesn't know how to repair gear. He's walking around with red gear all the time and thinks he replaces it in dungeons.
@@Emperor_Beardo lol
that hoodie looks insanely comfortable
It's nice!
@@heythereguysitsMetro Actually, the grey hoodie with the white tshirt made it look to me like you were dressed like a koala lol.
@@shadowsteppah that would be nice too probably.
Comfy life best life
I came to say this exact thing. I wanna know what hoodie this is lol. I need it in my life.
What's missing is certain people having the humility to recognize that just because a class is "meta", does not mean you will have guaranteed success. Sadly, this is very prevalent with FOTM classes. Great vid! :D
@@AnaBolaCaspao ya I have seen it sooo many times.
Souph is a counterspell that switches the polarity of magnets that the mobs wear...preventing him and that giant shield from getting sucked outta consecrate haha
@@slb159 that's gotta be it!
The Ardent Defender commit WHILE bubble's still active is gold.
@@wolfking13 haha ya that is really funny to me.
Perfect storm right here-Necrotic Wake is one of the dungeons where it either goes really good or really bad at the start. Pally tank is either really squishy or a powerhouse, all depending on how you play it. And somehow, your hoodie made this all the better. Almost like Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin in Spiderman NWH
Haha ya it really was!
He definitely is the Souph- er man of Paladins, so instead of an S on his chest its a shield.
Hahahaha
It's not a language barrier. It's a braincell barrier.
@@HimerosTeviot haha
paladin can sometimes have a hard time keeping mitigation up 100% of the time and can make them feel spikey, but this guy being deleted instantly after bubble when he should had several SotR going by now is hilarious
Ya really crazy
He has SotR going, you can see it in the interface. It's the bar on top of his HP.
I looked him up and he's running 13K mastery, 3k higher than needed for 100% block (need 9.4k with shaman, 10.6k w/o) with WoG and AS block procs.
Doesn't change the fact that he turned his back w/o bubble up
Where can a I see how much stats do I need for a demon hunter tank?? Help a brother hear 2 month old account :c@@SammyBammy813
@@SammyBammy813 Why do you bring the stats up? How is that relevant?
That thumbnail had me thinking that you got a whole wig or grey extensions it blends so well with your hair when I see it tiny lmao
@@Sean11194 oh ya, that's funny. Especially in the dark.
Watching this paladin tank drop consecrate, toss his shield, and then walk past the consecrate/pack so he can get melee'd in the butt multiple times in a row is peak physical comedy. Bravo!
its really wild to see him do that hahah
Reminds me of when a friend of mine died to a one shot mechanic, got brezzed and then I just heard "shit I forgot to repair" over discord. He was then with a broken shield as prot warrior mid boss fight and he still survived longer than that paladin to the 4 mobs. So maybe he had broken gear (to give him the benefit of the doubt; everyone has brain outages like that sometimes)
Haha that's hilarious.
As a brazilian, the thing with the soothe is that he probably just hears other people saying it (friends and videos) but don't know how to actually type it. This is very common here as we end up borrowing some terms from English, specially ingame., They become popular, but people never see the actual spelling.
@@kidren50 ya I have seen it before. Always makes me chuckle.
@heythereguysitsMetro yeah, it's hilarious specially in competitive situations like that.
Weird typos can occur from dyslexia or dysgraphia too. But these usually involve mistaking letters that are similar, like q vs p, d vs b and so on.
@@Zka77-e1f ya I know it can but this fella is just Brazilian. They make mistakes like this all the time because they only hear the word said, never typed.
0:06 how metro looks at augs
sorry lol the extended silence made chuckle. great vid as always
@@antonparas4782 haha thanks!
"The shield is bigger than his character." That's hilarious. Love your videos, man. Keep up the great work.
@@thundergodd6086 it really is haha
And that ladies and gents is the classic fotm prot pally.
100 percent.
I play brew, due to the spec being bad (noone plays it) I've got to #2 on the connected realm pool with barely 2800 rating :D Gonna be #1 in a few days. Feels good, definitely feels better than struggling with a FOTM reroll :D
I'm just going to assume he got boosted. I can't think of any other way he'd be double upgrading 10s and doesnt know to stand in Consecration or to start casting hammers before a pull so you can Shield of the Righteous when you get to the pack
Ya I don't think so sadly. Unless his main is getting boosted too
@@heythereguysitsMetro Very possible. Some of these guys will do anything to cheat
@@heythereguysitsMetro no real evidence of boosting on his raiderio page, just an average player playing an alt he doesn't know as well and misplayed
@@chopthatpanda the turnaround on his RIO there's no way unless he's either boosted or someone else in the player's house is the slammer but isn't always the person behind the keyboard. already +12 Dawn and ++11 NW & MoTS
or he may just learning a new class and misplayed it. It's not like you've never misplayed yourself
Also not sure how can you boost a tank, pretty sure no one would do it for you
This guy is def BR because he has an accent in his name and the nick of his Main is related to a famous brazillian singer/meme person. The word "soothe" sounds a bit like "souph" when you say it outloud being a native portuguese speaker. Can relate to that as a BR myself.
@@saraiva1704 that's funny. I guess it does!
I thought he was asking for soup. I would have never guessed Soothe xD
hahaha
When the Paladin bubbled at the start he lost all aggro beyond bubble taunt range lmfao.
@@onkek ya I didn't put two and two together there. That's funny.
Every healer : "Yup..." then his dps friend starts blaming you for bad heals. More common then you would think.
haha im sure
I’m pretty sure those mobs at the start will jump to the person farthest away from the tank unless they stand within 5 yards? Unless I’m mixing them up with the mobs from mists.
@@scuttlebut ya that's mists. This guy straight up doesn't have threat.
Dude getting hit in the back probly kinda looks like hes stood in the middle of the pack rather than tanking all the mobs to the front on one of the edges of the pack
@@pippinjunior ya I think so.
Loved this, can't wait for tomorrow's vid. Also the end was 😘
@@RyanMortier haha glad you enjoyed it!
Apparently he used no blessed hammer, so he went into packs without Shield of the Righteous, and just collapsed to melee. Was funny thou, i also laughed when i did this on a nw 10 with some friends sporting 587i lvl on my alt prot pala. We all laughed and my friend dK end up tanking most of the mobs with unholy spamming death strike.
And fyi, the singing was scary! xD
Haha
Every time you wear that brown hoodie with a white shirt my brain always thinks you're wearing a teddy bear costume lmao
@@Deadscheme lol
Prot pally is squishy if not played properly, but if played well, are super OP because of the utility they provide to the group. But if you aren't maintaining your active mitigation, if you aren't sitting in your Consecrate, and you aren't using Avenger's Shield off CD (gives 30% block chance), you will die. Because they have the smallest HP pool of tanks(AFAIK), they are the most punished for unmitigated hits.
and they should be, cant have that amount of utility and dmg and be tanky.
@@DaveStarfire ya that hp pool seems like a major issue.
how u get that blood jawn after respawn??
The effect on the screen? That's from being a Venthyr in shadowlands content.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Dope thanks homie!
Update: He timed a 12 Dawn and has ++11 NW and ++11 Mists...how? Only 2 things I can think:
1) Two different people play this account/tanks
2) Actively boosted account
Either way its painful for anyone pugging and relying on his rio
Did he time them as tank or DPS?
@@SammyBammy813 ya it may be a different person who knows.
Ran a 10 COT with a guardian druid that had completed it on a 10 prior.. first mob of dungeon instantly died 2 times. Then after second boss died to first mob 2 times in a row and kept over-pulling even after he was dying. Then before 3rd boss died again and blamed healer and left .. clearly boosted
I'm feeling a little sick today. Gonna call my friend who lives in town and see if she'll make me some chicken noodle souph
@@D2Mephisto rofl
looks to me like that pally had a bunch of gear in his bags to boost his il!!!!
@@elipercival7354 why's that
That Pala tank experience is what I'm used to seeing as a healer whenever I was unfortunate enough to queue with a paladin tank. Either they are godly and never die, or they're wet paper. There is nothing in between. Same as Monks, DHs and DKs. It seems quite rough out for tanking atm in general as any mistake get you to just an unending wipefest.
It's a good thing you have a teddy tank!
@@Suntaile ya sadly it's a huge risk to invite fotm at this level. Especially an alt of some one else.
Let's fcking go, we back again. Moreeeee
@@stefanossepsas7985 more coming tomorrow.
What's a good way to record?
I use Open Broadcast Software.
@@heythereguysitsMetro thanks
These are the people asking for m+ to be nerfed. 😂😂😂😂 I had a similar situation with a 2500 prot war 639 and went into this pack with 0 defensive. Died and went ???
@@RandomChicken313 ya sadly.
There's no world where that paladin should die with his 50% DR up, crazy..
Really wild stuff
Had tank do this to us in GB. He kept wiping us on red drake pack since he pulled all+corridor and instantly fell over since his gear was low and defensive uptime bad. The sad part is that it was easily in time if he pulled smaller packs, first time I've seen a deplete with three dudes doing over 1.2 m dps on overall.
Gotta record those and send them in!
Is typing MS for Mind Soothe too hard to type?
Yea
The FOTM strikes again. He's just not playing pally correctly at all.
Boosted
Seems so
That tank was about as good tanking as he is at spelling 😂
@@xalexpalex haha
yeah NW is bugged as hell! We had the NO RESET on last boss, I was healer and got EXILED xD
@@danieljurisevic ah ya that's been like that since shadowlands too. Really strange.
Prot is "the best" because they can pump damage and have some cheese. theyre actually fairly hard to play because you need to focus on defensives alot to stay alive, as well as SoTR and 100% spellblock
@@cvilla1944 sounds like it!
The 2 times he died to 4 mobs he didn't have any active mitigation on from shield of righteous, pretty sure
Ya just weird to take that long to get going.
@@heythereguysitsMetro One thing that isnt as obvious to some players when learning Prot Paladin is that you actually have to Blessed Hammer the Air a couple of times to generate Holy Power so you can Shield of Righteous first thing in the pack to get active mit up. Instead of spending like 4 GCDs in the pack to do it. Not that intuitive.
@@xzalean it is if you think about it, before you go into a m+10.
only thing would be if he is specced in hotr, but he is clearly specced into aoe whirlwind hammertime.
him not running dropping them on the way tells me that this player never actually playes this char.
2:17 I keep waiting for a consecration and I see only 1 Blessed Hammer, he's not generating any holy power.
This video is best summed up as: "what the f**k is going on?"
@@Slamdoxicalz it really is
im currently 630 frost dk and only just reached 2509 (reached this score all through pugging lol) as of a few days ago this late! this has been the absolute worst season for me!
@@T-Hazza well make sure you record the runs and send in the wild stuff!
@@heythereguysitsMetro I wish a mate of mine (frost mage) had recorded his run where he only received 100K healing which was overall!!!!! and was wined at him saying he needs to learn the dung as he kept dying alot and had to ice block and my mate linked the healing figures and was like "look at those numbers and say that to me again!!" the tank asked to see the numbers and was like "yh that is a problem" ill have to try and record and delete every key and save any juicy drama!
Had a prot pally yesterday in a 10 dawnbreaker kept getting deleted on first boss. Thought a 10 dawn would be easy just to fill me vault slots but we wiped twice on first boss to tank just being delted dude was 629 thought he would be ok, he was not ok, not ok at all.
Those are the ones you wanna record and send in!
No shield of the righteous. This is why when people say prot pally is meta it pisses me off as a prot pally main. We don’t have legitimate defensive like other tanks, what we have are gimmicks to stay alive. Looking at it, he was supposed to build up holy power for sotr and then pull the first mobs, into the ones at the bottom of the stairs then use avengers shield to grab/silence the big guy. After that use bubble while using sotr every moment you can. Being “survivable” all depends on having shield of the righteous up, it’s a passive defensive ability as it gives armor at best but doesn’t make you block or parry or anything like that, we use mastery or crit for that. Before every pull you build up sotr and try to keep it up the entire dungeon, at no point should you not have it and it’s especially stressful this xpac. I had a WA made so I could track it . The minute it falls off it’s installed death and sure the time increases if you reapply before it runs out but the armor is capped and you have to get at least two off before it’s timer goes to like 10 seconds if I remember correctly it usually 4 before you have to reapply to get more time from it. It’s stressful and bad design but people think it’s broken bcos if does a bunch of dps. A tanks job is to survive the dmg
That's wild that it's that severe.
I'm going to defend the pally in this video. Whilst yes, he popped AD maybe 3 seconds too early, you're right, it is a BDK situation. If you aren't throwing up your next major defensive during the previous major defensive, you are just going to fall over and die within a global, when the pull is that big.
Not that this guy was a spitting example of what a prot paladin could/should be
Oh yeah, the whole "We need a prot pally" thing. I think it's the damage and that they can immune damage once every (3 minutes according to CDs, but the talents reduce the CD) 90seconds and that survivability is why prot pally is the tank of choice ATM.
Kinda like. The damage going out on tanks is so massive, that the only tank with a true immunity to damage is good... Maths insues
@@ight001 ya I'm just shocked they are that squishy. Making blood look like a wall haha
paladins and most tanks feel extremly squishy,its like blocking doesnt even exist as a mecanic anymore
@@deenman23 ya really shocked tbh. For years the shield tanks were the opposite of this.
@3:10 lmfao
Haha
You can walk out of conc for 4 seconds fyi (buff lingers with talents)
I'm in tears 🤣
Haha
The reason bad paladin tanks get deleted is due to the amount of buffs they need to get and keep active:
Missing consecration buff = dead
Missing Shield of the Righteous buff = dead
Missing Ardent Defender or another DR during gather = probably dead
Missing +10% block chance for 10s and 25% parry chance for 15s from throwing Avenger's Shield = Dead (Barricade of Faith + Strength in Adversity)
Missing +30% block chance for 6s from casting Word of Glory = Danger (Faith in the Light)
Lose your 5% armor buff (it disappears if you change talents at all or overwrite with weapon oil) = Danger (Right of Sanctification hero talent for Lightsmith)
If a pally tank runs in to a pack of mobs while not having all these buffs active, they will be in big danger.
Ya seems like that must be the problem.
maybe he was boiled. A drunk tank is a fun tank.
Maybe!
you know it’s going to be a good key when your group starts with question marks and poor english
Ya that cracks me up.
He didnt gather holy power before pull and it looks like he didnt use consecration.
He used Wings, Divine toll, Divine shield, Ardent defender all at the same time. Kinda suprised he didnt pop kings also, Dont know if eye of tyr is still used or not. since healers omnicd isnt showing it.
Havent played paladin since DF.
Evoker popped his cd right at the start of the pull.
Ya
You cannot just run into a stack without holy power build up or double def cd’s up. This prot made one error after the other! First attempt was 1/2 good but he crossed over bubble and cd’s. The 2nd and 3rd time it’s no holy power and not staying in consecration. Look for holy power addon with any prot pally.
@@Deeman1963 ya his gameplay is a mess for sure.
Dev has had a treat pull issue for a LONG time, Preheat has spoken about it a lot and doesn't seem like they've fixed it
@@Frontsnorri ya well their mastery makes them burst hard I'd imagine.
This is what happens when you have a "meta" player who has never played that particular class. XD
Absolutely.
I don’t think he is using shield of the righteous which is like bone shield for pally. Has to be up or you get chunked hard
@@danoizedafunk753 ya maybe
LOL '' that mob figths the evoker,wins that 1v1'' idk why but these coments you make with a serious face always crack me up for some reason
@@deenman23 haha glad you enjoy my type of humor.
I might be wrong on this (cause I seen other youtubers make videos on the state of tanks as well as which ones are the hardest to play to easiest with Monk and Prot paladin coming in as the hardest tanks due to how unforgiving they are if you mess up defensives and what not.) I think either the prot pally is either new to tanking on that class or just being ignorant just to be ignorant but this might be a bad opinion due to me not being a tank for a long time but I've seen this type of stuff though back during pve days
Ya we have seen a lot of this with paladins too
Situations like this are a real mystery to me sometimes. You look at his performance here and then you look at his performance history and it just doesn't add up. I can easily say he got boosted, but does that mean he also got boosted on his main tank? Is the person playing the character in this vod not the actual owner of the character thus explaining the poor gameplay? Really, too many questions I have for cases like this lmao. That priest kicking him tho, they knew they were in for a ride and saved themselves the headache hahaha
Ya he can't be carried this often surely. Who knows. Might be a different person.
Bro just wanted to eat some souph and he gets uninvited, smh
@@Sebastian_Ulamog haha
Alright no holy power build up at the start, picks up shield and tosses judgment on the first mob leaving the other 3 with no threat, sends his shield to grab threat (generally you send the shield at the caster in 2nd pack) uses blessed hammer so now has 2 holy power, likely uses divine toll and then a SotR during this time he has no aggro on 2nd pack which is what kills the evoker. So running in gathering the pack he has no activity mitigation up, not aggro on all which is when he bubble taunts (assuming he’s specked into it) and then uses argent during bubble? Lol once they drop off he’s dead. Judging by how he gathered the pull, he’s inexperienced and had mobs behind him which deleted him. Likely saw this pull on a Yoda video and though he could do it.
haha ya seems so
Paladin is not in a weird state. It's in the same state it's been in for all of Dragonflight. You need to be in some form of active mitigation (+SotR+Conc) to live trash. This paladin needed to hit Guardian of Ancient Kings as AD fell off. They never seem to cast GoAK in the entirety of the (very short) key, in fact.
@@kkpratt well I mean it's weird that these guys are looking more squishy than blood dk when they have a shield. Confused by that.
@@heythereguysitsMetro not to be overly elitist, but its really just a skill issue.
You can definitely die if you aren't set up the way I described (which is essentially 3 layers of mitigation), which can make a Paladin particularly squishy right on pull if they aren't playing correctly. But its totally doable to farm holy power and drop consecrate (while taking the 4 second lingering talent) so that you're ready right when the mobs hit.
Dying in the middle of a pull after your bubble drops while you have a 50% DR off CD (as well as the 20% shield item, as you mentioned) is completely unforgiveable though.
ngl, the wipe right before the healer kicks the tank is the healer’s fault for the that specific wipe
Every GCD in the world and nothing was used for that pull, healer should have been actually healing it
Oh ya this isn't about fault obviously. It's a two minute key lol.
He was doing his damage roation right it's just his heals and defence rotation that he's getting all wrong. Concencrate should've been the first thing he drops after bubble for it's passive DR. Besides prot pally is probably the easiest tank to play this season.
Oh ya? We have seen some REALLY bad paladins haha
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah I say it's the easiest tank to play but it's super punishing when you play it wrong.
It's always very bad when prot paladin is the meta because this shows you how bad of a tank most people are. Tanks like warrior, druid, monk are 'most' of the time just fine passively if they don't use anything on those keylvls. Paladin actually needs to cycle through defensives and has to stay in conc all the time or you will just fall over.
@@Bladefish2696 ya seems really bad when played poorly.
He needs to keep Shield of the righteous up and stay in consecration for basic mitigation… it doesn’t feel great but it’s how you stay alive … this bro clearly doesn’t like doing these things
Ya I'm not sure he likes doing anything the spec wants him to do.
i mean its impossible to die on pally if u just pop avenging wrath early, and u still have bulwark,argent defender, ur 50%, ur glorious moment, ur spellwarding and ur bubble. also use ur consecrate and sotr corectly. Paladin isnt the problem here, its more the people that hear pala is s tier tank, and assume they dont need to be able to play it that for.
Ya well the fact that it can look this bad does say it's not "impossible to die." This is worst than a blood dk tbh.
The average player has no idea how the game actually works, they just do whatever they're told. People see prot paly in the highest keys and assume it's because they're really tanky. I've been healing at a high level for plenty years now. Apart from maybe brewmaster monk, there is nothing squishier than a prot paly right now. Even the best players in the world need babysat with that spec, watch the streams. It's their DMG and externals.
Ya 100 percent.
That guys Raiderio/warcraftlogs are sus... especially when it looks like he let them hit him in the back... what tank does that and can clear 12s?
Yeah, I’m fairly certain he bricked the key intentionally since I waited 4 minutes to invite him instead of instantly.
@@johnhmphoto oh ya? Idk I don't think you can die that quickly on purpose hahah
@@heythereguysitsMetro 😂😂
I really can't understand how this guy got that IO given the performance shown in this video. Maybe he was letting his little brother try to tank or something? The person in tanking in this video is not capable of getting that IO (by tanking), yet they have it....
@@EMSrob78 very possible.
Yeah he died at the beginning because they didn't give him souph
@@irullz7680 starving
"That happens in Elden Ring"? :O
Elden Ring stream when?
Stream never, but I do want to make videos when I eventually get the expansion for acegamestv!
@@heythereguysitsMetro oh sweet. I didn't expect to actually get anything, but looking forward to that anyways! I completely forgot that channel even existed
@saetchs gotcha ya it's basically only for Pokemon TCG ATM but I do want to eventually do other games. I had started a pokemon game let's play too but I haven't been able to play it since the expansion launched basically.
this prot pally has no idea what he is doing noob for real
@@ronniel904 ya
pallies are only squishy if u don't know how to play it i can guarantee that pally didn't have sotr up at all shield of the Righteous which is a 40% physical damage reduction it should be up like 100% of the time or damn close to it explains why he dies so fast also had back to mobs yep this is pugs in a nuthsell.
Ya sadly we have seen a lot of people who don't seem to know how to play it then haha
Probably stuck on 11/12 with his BDK and tried a Meta class. He prob died with adds sticking in his back in combination with poor use of abilities based how he used his consecration en CD rotation..
@@BCAmazigh one HUNDRED percent. Thinks paladin will be easy
Pure comedy xD
@@PrxmetheusFPS ya
Pure gold. Lol
@@kopitarrules yessir
I blame RUclipsrs and their tier lists, also showing this pull to people.
Well to be fair he dies to four mobs so idk who you can blame for that.
beautiful voice
Thanks
and when he bubbles he loses threat so people got killed
ya
the healer having his bars on the right is triggering me lol. pally clearly has no idea what he is doing. fotm usual stuff
He had several people tell me the same thing about bars on the right, but it’s more comfortable for me 😂
Bars on the right are better if you are a right handed player. There are actually studies on this. Your mouse hand being in the same side as your focus leads to better reaction time. It probably doesn't actually matter in this game though.
I've been looking through MoP videos in anticipation for mists classic and I came across this video ruclips.net/video/ZoXNA_yCDmQ/видео.html . I didn't know you did holy paladin back in mists but I thought that was kind of cool to just happen across.
haha ya, MoP was when I started making videos! Lots of stuff on AcegamesTV of mine from MoP. That's where I have all the Pokemon content now too.
@@heythereguysitsMetro I'm sure ill be coming across more natrually as I'm looking for more mop content haha.
Hahaha wtf Metro, i thought it was a bear at the start , yah paladin tanks, they need to rotate in cd as much as blood dk, I start healing again and I have seen good numbers of tanks like this guy, probably a beginning, healer usage of barrier did not help the situation either
Ya this is insane though. They really look squishy if they don't have stuff up. Even blood isn't that bad.
Stormrage is Ragnaros 2.0
ok THAT'S IT I am officially transferring off Stormrage. Been here since 2016, but no more. I refuse to be seen as a Ragnaros type of player LOL
@@matrix255 ya sadly it's collected a lot of that.
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lol wonder if he bought the character
@@Aegea291 doesn't look like it.
And then ppl are complaining about leavers.
@@S3Ri0usOG huh?
Complete shitposting of content. You ran into a bad player, get over yourself.
@@cro4262 you must be new here.
post your io sir?
Guy got boosted. Has really no clue how his spec plays. Sad state of the game. To many people buying boost. And then complaining that M+ is toxic
Do we think his main got boosted too then or what
@@heythereguysitsMetro He only ran 10s and sometimes 11s for a while there and then in the last 2 weeks he cleared 12s all at once. Looking at his warcraft logs really makes his BDK look questionable to be doing 12s.
@@heythereguysitsMetro maybe not his main. But deffo his pladin class that he doesnt know how to play
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