This was fascinating, and brought to me a new-found respect for Islam. Appreciation and acceptance of diversity is the only antidote to fundamentalism. Proud that this is also the cornerstone of Dharmic traditions
Nupur sharma incident should have woken up all Hindus but alas when we hear these kind of soft spoken, ‘classy’ conversations we choose to close our eyes again and again..right from 1920’s
The problem is in your diagnosis. 1. Hinduism firstly is not a religion, but a category that includes many diverse practices which were not necessarily harmonious to one another. Eg. Sudelaimadan has no connection to Krishna. 2. The superior high culture or Brahminism, created a religious cultural practice of exclusion of others, thus precluding it's growth. Without inclusion or brotherhood Hinduism tries to grow with contradictory tendencies. It is convenient to blame the Christian and Muslim without understanding your own society. 3. Christianity and Islam create a common identity that transcends caste, which is almost impossible in Hinduism.
@@ben-dr3wfmany immigrants are unaware of US laws. Federal laws prohibit discrimination based on a person’s national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex and family status. Laws prohibiting national origin discrimination make it illegal to discriminate because of a person’s😅 birthplace, ancestry, culture or language. Why I am repeating the federal laws? I as a brahmin felt offended when someone passes disparaging remarks against me and my ancestry.
@@chander3338 There is no disparaging remarks in my comment. It is a fact that graded inequality was/is practiced in Indian society legitimised by Brahmin theology. Ambedkar's scholarship would suffice to demonstrate it. 🙏
With due respect to Dr. Andani, I want to correct his explanation about Hajj. Historically many Ismaili Imams and his family members performed Hajj including first Imam Ali. Begum Umm e Habibah wife of 48th Ismaili Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan 3rd performed Hajj 3 times. Every year many Nizari Ismailis from South Asia, Central Asia, USA, middle East perform Umrah and Hajj every year.
Very few Ismaili imams did Hajj. No Imam after the 5th imam has gone on Hajj. The Hajj to Mecca isn’t mandatory. What takes priority is the visitation of the Imam of the time.
Saw Dr. Andani on Capturing Christianity and really like the way he nuances and communicates Islam. I'm kinda disappointed in his representation of the Qur'an, though. There are multiple Arabic Qur'ans (e.g. Hafs vs Warsh) that do have different words that can change the meaning (e.g. many a prophet fought vs many a prophet was killed). Definitely not just one Qur'an now and it doesn't seem to have ever been that way, according to both Islamic tradition and secular scholarship. Anyway, great interview! I love learning more about Islam, especially the more rare forms. Would love to see an interview on the Syriac Christian influence on the Qur'an. I find some of these ideas fascinating. Thanks again!
If all Hadiths eventually come from the same source ie the prophet of Islam, how come we end up with so many differences ? Ex. Shias pray 3 times a day not 5 and don’t need to wash their feet in ablution but simply wipe the top of their socks. So which practice did the prophet follow and teach ?
@jj-yi1ne For something as important as prayer, one would have expected specific instructions and not left for individuals to interpret or even invent more convenient ways that suit them. There are no specific instructions about the ways the prophet prayed. If anything this shows us that the so-called last message to humanity is vague in many areas; often with dire results. Take the Khelafa for example, followers of different sects of Islam are still killing each other about something that was never settled because the prophet’s lack of clarity in that matter.
In Quran the word Namaz for prayer is not used. The word for ritual prayer is Salat. In Meccan time the Prophet performed Salat 2 times. In Medina 3 times which later on increased to 4 or 5 times. In my opinion 5 times Salat was not performed regularly in Prophet's life time but was established in the time of 2nd Caliph Umar along with 20 Nafils of Taraveeh in Ramadhan.
Interesting that it’s believed that Mohammad received the Quran but it is his cousin Ali who becomes the first inspired imam and who becomes endowed with the ultimate knowledge of interpretation and wait for it he can then pass that divine inspiration to his sons mmmmm!? No wonder Shias have more adoration to Ali and just give lip service to Mohammad.
Baby__ it's your mis conception ___ all shia communities highly revere the prophet Muhammad,PBUH they think that He is the best example of Divine Wisdom He should extend Divine Mercy to through His Ideal character, otherwise we were unable to understand how God is "Rahman", Prophet showed us his mercy to us, made our hearts humble, we love to sit in humility, it is become possible Our beloved Prophet, He turned Barbarian Arabs into civilized Nation we don't like be pretentious Muslims, mostly We Ismaili believe that Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the transcendent Divinely inspired light (Noor), will remain untill last day... We Don't treat him like a Normal person, you cannot attain Spiritual enlightenment while simulating outer texture, we will have to understand the spirit of our Holy prophet, His mercy, His benevolence, His kindness, His centrality, His Divine Authority, His complete universality, to bring peace on our earth, He was sent down not only for muslim community, His mercy is open to all human communities, therefore it's very compulsory to strengthen our hearts with True recognition Of Rasull'llah,
@@randombeats5485 (Baby?!?) Nice redaction about the prophet but let’s be honest here for a minute. Shias worship Ali and his sons, Hassan and Hussain. They call their place of prayer Hussainya in honour of Hussain. Ali’s wife Fatema is the most elevated women that ever lived, even higher than the Virgin Mary …. Mohammad is that half cousin of Ali a messenger that received the Quran but had no wisdom to decipher its content. Taqeya is what Shias are very good at, they rarely say openly what they really believe internally.
@@jma7600 what you mean by worship? Let me understand your conception of worship? Why are you obsessed with, that how Shias are worshipping Ali? I think, you have been indoctrinated to believe that Shias Worship Ali? First I love to be open here in discussion, be frank what you want to prove? Have you ever read the Quran sharif, Quran discourages rumoring against people without confirmation__
@@randombeats5485 Worship revere adore ... simply said Ali said that he was the Messiah, the Christ, the beginning and the end, the light,...etc. Ali took on the persona of Jesus that is worshipped by Christians. A real imposter ( if he really existed)
Islam claims that Mecca or more specifically the Kaaba is the most important site on earth, the house of Allah, yet Mohammad and his followers used the Jewish kebla Jerusalem for the direction of prayer for twelve years inside the so called revelation. It didn’t seam to bother Mohammad or his god at all.
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This was fascinating, and brought to me a new-found respect for Islam. Appreciation and acceptance of diversity is the only antidote to fundamentalism. Proud that this is also the cornerstone of Dharmic traditions
See the actions on roads instead of brainwashing concepts. Lol.. Hindus will be the first to fall for these rhetorics.
Nupur sharma incident should have woken up all Hindus but alas when we hear these kind of soft spoken, ‘classy’ conversations we choose to close our eyes again and again..right from 1920’s
The problem is in your diagnosis.
1. Hinduism firstly is not a religion, but a category that includes many diverse practices which were not necessarily harmonious to one another. Eg. Sudelaimadan has no connection to Krishna.
2. The superior high culture or Brahminism, created a religious cultural practice of exclusion of others, thus precluding it's growth.
Without inclusion or brotherhood Hinduism tries to grow with contradictory tendencies. It is convenient to blame the Christian and Muslim without understanding your own society.
3. Christianity and Islam create a common identity that transcends caste, which is almost impossible in Hinduism.
@@ben-dr3wfmany immigrants are unaware of US laws. Federal laws prohibit discrimination based on a person’s national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex and family status. Laws prohibiting national origin discrimination make it illegal to discriminate because of a person’s😅 birthplace, ancestry, culture or language. Why I am repeating the federal laws? I as a brahmin felt offended when someone passes disparaging remarks against me and my ancestry.
@@chander3338 There is no disparaging remarks in my comment. It is a fact that graded inequality was/is practiced in Indian society legitimised by Brahmin theology. Ambedkar's scholarship would suffice to demonstrate it. 🙏
Remarkable conversation from both sides 🙏
"I was more interested in comparative studies of Islam and Hinduism than in accounting". Whoa, sounds like myself! 😉😀
It was such a refreshing conversation.
Thanks to both of you.
Great explanation and great work. Thank Dr Andani
With due respect to Dr. Andani, I want to correct his explanation about Hajj. Historically many Ismaili Imams and his family members performed Hajj including first Imam Ali. Begum Umm e Habibah wife of 48th Ismaili Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan 3rd performed Hajj 3 times. Every year many Nizari Ismailis from South Asia, Central Asia, USA, middle East perform Umrah and Hajj every year.
Very few Ismaili imams did Hajj. No Imam after the 5th imam has gone on Hajj. The Hajj to Mecca isn’t mandatory. What takes priority is the visitation of the Imam of the time.
She goes to hajj because she was a twelver shia..
That was very enlightening actually. Thank you
Saw Dr. Andani on Capturing Christianity and really like the way he nuances and communicates Islam. I'm kinda disappointed in his representation of the Qur'an, though. There are multiple Arabic Qur'ans (e.g. Hafs vs Warsh) that do have different words that can change the meaning (e.g. many a prophet fought vs many a prophet was killed). Definitely not just one Qur'an now and it doesn't seem to have ever been that way, according to both Islamic tradition and secular scholarship.
Anyway, great interview! I love learning more about Islam, especially the more rare forms. Would love to see an interview on the Syriac Christian influence on the Qur'an. I find some of these ideas fascinating.
Thanks again!
Revisit what I said - there is about 3% differences in words among the ten Quranic readings. But it’s the same text.
@KhalilAndani Hi Dr.Andani, i hope every thing is going well on your end :)
@@KhalilAndani sir I have some questions please,
If all Hadiths eventually come from the same source ie the prophet of Islam, how come we end up with so many differences ? Ex. Shias pray 3 times a day not 5 and don’t need to wash their feet in ablution but simply wipe the top of their socks. So which practice did the prophet follow and teach ?
Hadiths are not reliable they were not collected until three months hundred years later
@jj-yi1ne
For something as important as prayer, one would have expected specific instructions and not left for individuals to interpret or even invent more convenient ways that suit them. There are no specific instructions about the ways the prophet prayed. If anything this shows us that the so-called last message to humanity is vague in many areas; often with dire results. Take the Khelafa for example, followers of different sects of Islam are still killing each other about something that was never settled because the prophet’s lack of clarity in that matter.
Did I hear you right that meeting the current imam takes priority to pilgrimage to the holiest place on earth Mecca ? Wow
In Quran the word Namaz for prayer is not used. The word for ritual prayer is Salat. In Meccan time the Prophet performed Salat 2 times. In Medina 3 times which later on increased to 4 or 5 times. In my opinion 5 times Salat was not performed regularly in Prophet's life time but was established in the time of 2nd Caliph Umar along with 20 Nafils of Taraveeh in Ramadhan.
I think the mistake here is believing who has 'the authority' to make these changes in practices
Interesting that it’s believed that Mohammad received the Quran but it is his cousin Ali who becomes the first inspired imam and who becomes endowed with the ultimate knowledge of interpretation and wait for it he can then pass that divine inspiration to his sons mmmmm!? No wonder Shias have more adoration to Ali and just give lip service to Mohammad.
Baby__ it's your mis conception ___ all shia communities highly revere the prophet Muhammad,PBUH they think that He is the best example of Divine Wisdom He should extend Divine Mercy to through His Ideal character, otherwise we were unable to understand how God is "Rahman", Prophet showed us his mercy to us, made our hearts humble, we love to sit in humility, it is become possible Our beloved Prophet, He turned Barbarian Arabs into civilized Nation we don't like be pretentious Muslims, mostly We Ismaili believe that Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the transcendent Divinely inspired light (Noor), will remain untill last day...
We Don't treat him like a Normal person, you cannot attain Spiritual enlightenment while simulating outer texture, we will have to understand the spirit of our Holy prophet, His mercy, His benevolence, His kindness, His centrality, His Divine Authority, His complete universality, to bring peace on our earth,
He was sent down not only for muslim community, His mercy is open to all human communities, therefore it's very compulsory to strengthen our hearts with True recognition Of Rasull'llah,
@@randombeats5485
(Baby?!?)
Nice redaction about the prophet but let’s be honest here for a minute. Shias worship Ali and his sons, Hassan and Hussain. They call their place of prayer Hussainya in honour of Hussain. Ali’s wife Fatema is the most elevated women that ever lived, even higher than the Virgin Mary …. Mohammad is that half cousin of Ali a messenger that received the Quran but had no wisdom to decipher its content. Taqeya is what Shias are very good at, they rarely say openly what they really believe internally.
@@jma7600 what you mean by worship? Let me understand your conception of worship? Why are you obsessed with, that how Shias are worshipping Ali?
I think, you have been indoctrinated to believe that Shias Worship Ali? First I love to be open here in discussion, be frank what you want to prove? Have you ever read the Quran sharif, Quran discourages rumoring against people without confirmation__
@@randombeats5485
Worship revere adore ... simply said Ali said that he was the Messiah, the Christ, the beginning and the end, the light,...etc. Ali took on the persona of Jesus that is worshipped by Christians. A real imposter ( if he really existed)
@@jma7600 it's spiritual concept of light, I couldn't make you understand here
respectfully a lot of misrepresentation. and there is no division in Islam we are all Muslim
Respectfully but alot of ignorance in your comment.
Islam claims that Mecca or more specifically the Kaaba is the most important site on earth, the house of Allah, yet Mohammad and his followers used the Jewish kebla Jerusalem for the direction of prayer for twelve years inside the so called revelation. It didn’t seam to bother Mohammad or his god at all.
This guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Maybe you have no clue about Islam.
@@tamimferdausi8445 ok then I'm ready to learn tell what is Islam...