Disney Guy Review - The Great Mouse Detective
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Today, we're taking a look at the film that, quite possibly, saved the life of the feature animation department at the Disney Studios. It's time to look at the battle between the World's Greatest Criminal Mind and the Sherlock Holmes of the Mouse World, The Great Mouse Detective!
The Great Mouse Detective was the true beginning of the Renaissance lol.
Thank you. Somebody else who shares that sentiment. I was at a Disney trivia night a while ago, and I actually did run into somebody else who thought the same.
Chicago Critic Gerald Yes! After that disastrous The Black Cauldron that almost destroy the studio
Thank God!
I have to disagree i think the fox and the hound was but to each their own
MCU Shue fox and hound was excellent but the black cauldron was after it so it can’t really count.
Occidental Savage to me it is cause The Black Cloudron doesn’t count at all and in my mind it doesn’t exist but that’s just my opinion
I am surprised you didn't mention how Vincent Price went on the record that Ratigan was one of his favorite roles. You can tell he had so much fun playing that role. He's charm, love of being evil, and intelligence is why he's my fav Disney villain and this movie is one of my fav Disney Movies too.
Nice review, The Great Mouse Detective is SO UNDERRATED! I hardly know anyone in real life that has scene it, but Basil and Ratigan are such great characters!
Love this film since I was a kid. Vincent Price was perfect as Ratigan and in my opinion, Henry Mancini should've gotten at least an Oscar nomination for his outstanding music score.
Jerry here,
This movie makes me smile. I don't think I'm fully able to explain why, but it puts a smile on my face. It's not the most important film that Disney ever made but I come back to it as comfort food. It's kind of wonderful.
Personally I’ve always considered Basil to be the start of (and one of) the Disney Renascence movies! It’s exquisitely animated, it’s mix of 2D and CGI animation is phenomenal, it’s casting, perfect, music, glorious and story easy to follow for children, yet deep enough for older audiences! It’s a crime this is a ‘forgotten’ film more often than not when as you’ve stated in your fine video, should be held on a pedestal alongside Snow White, Beauty and the Beast and Wreck It Ralph as one of Disney’s finest works!!!
Certainly could make the argument that it kickstarted the Renaissance with how it helped the studio rebound after some lackluster efforts
@@JoeTheDisneyGuy do you know Val Benttin also took over the role of the Sultan from Aladdin, starting with the Return of Jafar?
I always love hearing the behind the scenes of these movies. Theres always something interesting about these movies. Another great video joe. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! And I agree, even well before I started this channel I always had an obsession with researching the details on how films were made. Fascinating!
Oliver and Company and then the golden decade of the 90’s is next! I can’t wait! 💛💙💜❤️💖
Almost there!
Chicago Critic Gerald Bette Midler AND Billy Joel?! I can’t handle it!
Theatre Geek Little Mermaid was released in 1989...
This film IS among Disney's most important! Where would Ariel, Belle, Simba, Aladdin be without it? Well knit story, clever period props, pioneer CGI, fab voices - *superb!*
See, I told you things would be better. I consider it one of my favorite films and an underrated gem. Basil and Ratigan are definitely the highlight. To me, I think the TRUE Renaissance era really started here and ended with “The Lion King”, as I consider the whole line of films from those points as favorites. Speaking of which, I’m definitely looking forward to the next film because, maybe I’m speaking a little biased, that one’s #5 on my list of favorite films.
The Great Mouse Detective is my favourite Disney movie; no matter how many times I watch it, it keeps it's charm and continues to entertain me. And it's not even about nostalgic value: though the commersial of the movie always interested me as a kid, I was maybe eighteen when I finally managed to actually watch this for the first time.
My favorite Disney movie, and everyone I tell thinks it's either weird or aren't even aware of it.
Honestly in my opinion. This is where the Disney Renaissance really started. The Great Mouse Detective really was kind of "A New Hope" for the Disney legacy, proving that it could still be successful. It's absolutely CRIMINAL, that this film or its characters do not get more support and love from modern Disney. Basil isn't forgotten by any means. But sadly like many films from our youth. He along with them are brushed aside for the new stuff. If ever there was a Disney character that could actually have Sequels and be deserving. it's Basil of Baker Street. He's already got a handful of books they could pull plot ideas from, not to mention the official Disney Comic books which im a little surprised you didn't mention here. Still, Great video my dude. I'm glad you have an appreciation for this movie like i do. Maybe not as much as i do haha but all the same, any good support for our famous mouse detective is good to see.
Now if only we can get Nomura to put The Great Mouse Detective in KINGDOM HEARTS... COME ON SQUARE!!!
Full Voice Actor List
Susanne Pollatschek: Olivia - Barry Ingham: Basil of Baker Street, Bartholomew - Val Bettin: Dr. Dawson - Vincent Price: Professor Ratigan - Alan Young: Flaversham (Olivia's Father) - Candy Candido: Fidget (Last Disney Role) - Eve Brenner: The Mouse Queen - Frank Welker: Toby the Dog, Felicia the Cat, Multiple Males - Melissa Manchester: Miss Kitty Mouse (The Western Bar Singer) - Diana Chesney: Mrs. Judson - Ellen Fitzhugh: The Bar Maid - Wayne Allwine: One Mouse Thug - Walker Edminston: Another Mouse Thug, Multiple Males - Tony Anselmo: A Lizard Thug - Charlie Adler: Multiple Males - Jim Cummings: Multiple Males - Tress MacNeille: Multiple Females - Mary Jo Catlett: Multiple Females
I think the animation for Great Mouse Detective was also a lot better than the animation for Oliver and Company released two years later
The GMD was one of my favorite Disney movies when I was a child and would watch it on repeat until I was able to recite the movie... verbatim! I loved it and I'm so glad to finally figure out why my beloved childhood fave did not get the attention and marketing it deserved.
I find it funny that this came out now when I watched the great mouse detective yesterday
Sounds like some good timing to me then!
Joe The Disney Guy definitely
The Great Mouse Detective is #9 on my list of favorite animated Disney movies. I watched this movie multiple times in my childhood, and today, there are still multiple parts of the movie that get into my head from time to time. I guess one reason why I like this movie is because of how Basil goes from a selfish mouse to a compassionate mouse. Sure I am troubled by how he treats Olivia in the beginning, but by the end he shows so much compassion for Olivia that I end up loving him. However, Olivia is still my favorite character for this whole movie. She stays likable for the entire story, which makes it easier to sympathize when she loses her father. Now, my very favorite sequence for this movie is the dock bar sequence, which feels so much like a western cowboy movie. But I cannot deny that I like the use of British talk as well. And because I love this movie so much, I will gladly acknowledge it as the movie that gave the new Disney animators their start in fame. (Even if I would still prefer An American Tail over The Great Mouse Detective).
In my opinion it's both underrated as a Sherlock Holmes and Disney movie, which is a shame because it's really a gem that I loved as a kid and can appreciate as an adult. One thing I know that it was made in the 80's how much they could get away with edgy material. I mean smoking in Disney movies is now banned and this movie has a lot of it. Not to mention all the alcohol, violence, and even sexuality they got in that bar scene.
One thing I like about Ratigan is that he's like the Penguin he puts on a mask of civility, but its to hide his brutal nature. Originally in the books, Ratigan was an oversized mouse who could be mistaken for a rat, but the movie changed that along with the fact he was lean. Overall, Ratigan is a character you just love to hate and it's delicious.
Ratigan as the Penguin is a pretty solid comparison actually
@@JoeTheDisneyGuy yes, especially with the fact they both wear tuxedos and top hats.
Funny, I am American born and raised, and I always knew this movie as "Basil of Baker Street" as a kid, and not "The Great Mouse Detective." And nobody even had to tell me.
I think this was because the characters just refer to Basil by such aforementioned title throughout the film. So the movie knew what it was, even if the title was changed.
July 2nd, 1986? This film is officially only 25 days older than me.
Definitely in my Top 5 Animated Canon films. Actually a solid 4 after BatB, Hunchback, and Groove.
Awesome! One of my favorite Disney movies! :D
Also the idea of making Sherlock Holmes as a dog, Miyazaki already beat them to the punch with his anime series, "Sherlock Hounds."
Honestly, I don't think that Sherlock Holmes as a dog was the most original idea for Disney anyway, so I much preferred going with Basil
I like how you've superposed the film's music with the ongoing vagaries the working teams went through. (Far from being an isolated case, but still!) The leading theme in particular is so rousing, each time.
Also, critics most often laud Vincent Price in first, for his (exquisite!) impersonation of Ratigan, but if I were to choose, I've been even more enjoying Ingham's lending of his voice to Basil. Would you happen to know in what consisted the part of his casting performance, which you've referred to, that simply made it to the movie? (And I'm asking while not having browsed though the entirety of the comments below.) Even if not, I'm glad to have learned that little anecdote with your video. Doesn't surprise me one bit!
Praise God that after the disaster with The Black Cauldron, Disney made somewhat of a comeback with this film!
This is one of my top 5 Disney animated movies ever- I love it sooo much! Wish Disney would do more with it in terms of park presence and especially in merchandising.
I think we all learned something today. If you need to reunite a fractured animation team to meet the challenge laid by new execs, rally behind a mouse! Casting Vincent Price as your villain is always the right choice. And the Sherlock mythos will support new content for generations.
Didn't think about it that way, but I suppose you're right!
@@JoeTheDisneyGuy and another thing that fake memo actually ended up becoming a jeopardy category
I know this is irrelevant to this, but similar to The Great Mouse Detective, This is just like Meet the Robinsons where it put Disney back on track during the post renaissance all because of John Lasseter. Btw, I can't wait for you to review Oliver and Company.
History does tend to repeat itself. It could be argued that we had seen something like this in the past as well with movies like Cinderella after a prolonged hiatus from feature films
I'd argue Bolt was the one that put them back on track.
How long does it most of the time take you to make these reviews? Because it is still amazing to me how informative, entertaining, interesting and engaging they all are(especally the Disney Guy Reviews)! Also how do you decide which music to have play throughout each review? Cause they seem to always fit extremely well to whatever you are talking about!
I think pride is why Ratigan uses intellect to fight Basil. It’s clear that he can best Basil in a physical fight, so it’s clear that he could just throw him off a cliff, but that’s not what he wants. He wants to be a civilized mouse and fight like one, using word and wit as his only weapons.
If he resorts to brute force, he’s admitting to Basil and Mousedom that they’re right, he’s nothing but a common sewer rat.
First time viewing your channel and now I’m hooked.
Great video, great pacing and I love the historical context before the review.
Look forward to watching more!
Came home from work and found this in my subscription box! What a way to start the weekend!
Fantastic work, Joe! I love the attention to detail you have regarding your research and down to Earth nature of your reviews. Thank you for helping to give this film more exposure. It’s really one of Disney’s most underappreciated works. Just one more film before the Renaissance period! Keep up the great work! Are you also planning to talk about Who Framed Roger Rabbit sometime in the future?
Thank you! I really appreciate it.And I will probably look at Roger Rabbit one of these days down the line. It was a Buena Vista production and also had a huge impact on the Disney studio, as well as being pretty technically fascinating for the time period
Almost getting to the Disney Renaissance!
The Great Mouse Detective is by far one of my all time favorite Disney movies.
I thought it was Peter Schneider who was angry at that retitling joke. plus it's how Young Sherlock Holmes also used CGI from ILM to create a computer animated stain-glass knight. Some of the people involved would later work for Pixar.
I'm pretty sure that (hilarious) title change memo would go on to inspire an actual broadcast game category of "Jeopardy!". Admittedly, it's been quite a few years since I last saw this, so I could be wrong about what it was for, but you can find the reference footage in the incredible Disney documentary "Waking Sleeping Beauty".
Also, YAY, YOU'RE BACK!!! Great review! XD
It did, and actually, the footage I have of the memo itself was also from Waking Sleeping Beauty, which yes, is a fantastic documentary
Great review!
I love The Great Mouse Detective!
I watched every one of your reviews in two days. Awesome work!
I was obsessed with this movie as a kid! So much so that my brothers hid the tape so I couldn’t keep watching it. I still love this movie to this day, (just hearing the score makes me so happy) and learning that it was supposed to be longer - I’m just like “😱?!” It seems so unfair right now. Oh the possibilities...
Then again if they hadn’t needed to quicken production it sounds like we wouldn’t have gotten that extremely epic battle/chase scene in the clocktower. I’ll just call it a fair exchange for now. 😁
Had the VHS back in the day, still might be my favorite Disney movie. It's the only movie you'll ever get to hear Vincent Price sing in which was one of the main selling points that got him on board to voice Ratigan.
Growing up, I've always loved mystories weather if it's the boxcar children or watching Law and Order with my mother. And this fill was one of my favourites growing up as well. Still is to this day
AWESOME! I've always love The Great Mouse Detective from my childhood, You have now Review the history of my favorite Disney movies. :-) Thank you man
Fantastic review Joe! I personally wish this movie not only had more reciniton but also a sequel cause it deserves both this movie also introduced me to Vincent Price and he was defenitly a fantasic actor for his time. Oh yeah, I didn't comment on the Black Cauldron review because you and I actually had a lot of the same points so I didn't want to sound redundent.
I love the fact that you have long absences before each episode. I find it more enjoyable to get one out of the blue one instead of having a schedule. Makes each new one more enjoyable.
Excited that you’ve finally made it here! Love the series, and I always enjoy when a new review comes out!
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying!
These Disney videos are great and very interesting!! Keep up the good work. =D
Joe the Disney guy, I will be looking forward to your review of "The Lion King".
plus, Professor Ratigan is definitely up there with Scar or Ursula.
Amazing film. This has always been my favorite Disney animated movie. As a little boy I’m sure I liked that there wasn’t a Disney princess.
Another fantastic review! Can’t wait for the next review. Hope you’re doing well
To be honest, of all the Walt Disney Animation Studios films, Great Mouse Detective is one I didn't watch very much at all for some reason and I don't know why. I literally had every movie up to Fantasia 2000, except Saludos Amigos, on VHS, and I swear I watched most of the package films way more than this one. But I'm thinking it's about time I revisit our friend Basil of Baker Street, as I've seen the movie's gained sort of a cult following in recent years. Anyways, loved the review as always! Hard to believe we're almost into the Renaissance. But before that, I'm looking forward to your review of Oliver & Company, which was always a favorite of mine as a kid, and still holds a special place in my heart today.
Certainly worth the rewatch, as I feel a lot of Disney films are as I get older. Usually pick up something new or different about them
I will continue to be patient like always and I hope you continue to enjoy making them for us and I hope things are going better for you in general too.
Excellent review as always. Highly enjoyed it. I don't actually think I've ever seen this one. Of course I'm aware of it and actually own it on digital, along with nearly every Disney animated movie ever made. I'll have to give it a watch sometime soon.
This is one of my faves in the Disney library. I consider it a true component of the Disney Renaissance.
Cool connection point here: My husband got to be the one who went to Disney studios and actually screen Castle Cagliostro for the Disney animators, as he was one of the few people in America who had a copy at the time... ^^
I love The Great Mouse Detective one of my many many top favorite childhood Disney films
This really was the start of the new Golden Age. The directors knew they could make a winner despite Eisner and Katzenberg doubting them
my favorite Disney movie!!
Now let’s see what’s next on the list?
Oliver and Company.
(Looking before said movie) Do you have any plans for the side project: Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
After that we reach the Renaissance
Not at this time for Roger Rabbit as I'm just working my way through the Disney Animated Classics, but I definitely plan on looking at it in the future!
@@JoeTheDisneyGuy Yay take ur time ^U^
Great and informative video as always!
Hey Joe, once you are done reviewing the animated canon, are you going to cover the live-action/animated hybrid films like Mary Poppins, Song of the South, Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Pete's Dragon and Who Framed Roger Rabbit? I'd love to hear your take on these films too.
I Kittery have virtually kthing abd to say about this movie. I wish they would've done more. It left me wanting more films of the real mouse detective series😭😭😭
Great video. Really intresting history behind this movie. So much could go wrong but to actually see Studio interferance that helped a movie and not cripple the company is rare, atleast what we get to hear about. This movie is great, It is sad to hear people who have not seen it but among my friends and family this is among thier favorites. I love the music, the style. Looking at it and thinking about the time it was made, you could say this went back looking as similar to Lady and the Tramp as possible giving it that high quallity look. A perfect movie to watch during a rainy or dark day. I remember thinking Olivia was a boy becuse the Scotish get up made me think she was wearing a kilt XD And I who dislike how they color her clothes pink on the covers just to try make it clear to people. Oh boy.
My last question for now is I was just wondering about if you have a guess about how many weeks or months it might be before we get to the Disney Guy Review of Oliver & Company and the Transitonal Age Recap before we move on to the Reniesance Age?
When it comes to the Disney Guy Reviews at this point in time, are you planing on going until Disney's last hand drawn animated feature The Princess and the Frog, or all the way to their most resent 3D animated feature or is that a seperate series for the future instead?
This is the best disney film ever made in my opinion mainly because it is my all time favorite
The Great Mouse Detective is my favorite Disney movie 💕❤
THANK WALT YOU'RE NOT DEAD!
I think you pretty much summed up my feelings on the movie as a well. A slightly underappreciated gem that was an important stepping stone in the history of Disney animation yet not an outright classic like the films that would follow.
On the 1992 VHS, they show a Sneak Preview of Aladdin.
I love Ratigan! So evil and over the top! Vincent price is legend! 👌
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Professor Padraic Ratigan the World's Greatest Criminal Mind played by the late great Vincent Leonard Price Jr: Ooooooohoohoo I *LOVE* it when I'm nasty!
(Ezekiel) Zeke Hamish Beckley: So do we Vince so do we.
Are you going to make a Oliver and Company review very soon?
Can you review Disney’s The Brave Little Toaster (1987)
I would be interesting if The Rescuers and The Great Mouse Detective take place in the same universe
I wonder how the animators reacted when they later on changed the name again to *The Adventures of* The Great Mouse Detective?
Can you do the Aladdin tv series, I’d like to hear your thoughts on Mozenrath
Do you watch Castle of Cagliostro?
Vincent Price as Ratigan is my favorite part of this movie.
I WAS RIGHT! EVERYTHING IS MICHAEL EISNER'S FAULT!
I remember this movie and it's on Disney plus.
It is a great movie and i give 7/10 but i like an American tail a little more. can't wait for the next disney guy review Joe keep up the good work
I do like the Black Cauldron after watching it a few times in the past, but it is no where near as good as the two books it is based on, mainly for charecters and story and I feel like even though it was a good effort by the Disney Studio, they kind missed the mark a little bit and I think it is also too dark for a Disney movie. I do wish we could see it in its original uncut form cause it probbaly would be better that way.
Do you plan on covering Pixar’s stuff as well?
Definitely. Gonna work my way through Disney Animated Classics first and then probably head over to Pixar
As a Madonna fan...i am glad they decided against getting her to do a song number for the film, or else she'd be begging for a voice credit in the film given her reputation to train wreck herself into a film.
She hasn't got a lot of acting chops that gurl 😂😅
Welcome back
A great film sadly there wasn't a sequal or even tv series.
RIP Burny mattinson
Did you ever see The Legend of the Three Caballeros
I have not yet but I keep hearing about it so I'll have to check it out one day
Joe The Disney Guy you can watch it on a website call KissCartoon
Did not that lupin the third help in a Disney Film
Haven’t seen it yet
Where’s the little boy playing Robin Hood David block
I thought this was too short of a movie felt like there was more adventure. Another one reminds me of Sherlock is Thin Man a black n white show watch it with my Ma
watching it tuesday
awesome film
As an animator, I had a big problem with this film when it came out (I was about 15). The animation isn't BAD, it's just... simple? a little shoddy? a little cheaply drawn? Not terrible, but far below the draftsmanship and animation quality one would expect from Disney. I really couldn't stomach watching it on the big screen. It holds up better today since Disney has made far worse films since then.
A Disney film that borrow from anime, disney might owe monkey punch, and lupin the third a big thanks
nice
i like it
Hi Joe. I have a few questions for you and it is fine if you can't answer them right away since I understand you are busy with a lot of stuff recently.
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