Loved the live the other day. Especially the bit where you admitted being a wierdo. Was doing a timing belt and water pump on my car on my front lawn while listening. As a fellow wierdo who also admits it freely I was cheering you on laughing my ass off and looking like an idiot, to all those walking past. Not that I care.
If Oscars jack man did hold his ground, was knocked out of the way and the backup jack man had to step in, Oscar’s pit would have been 8-10 seconds. That jack man saved his race. Hope Oscar gets him a great apology gift.
@SanchezS1998 he might be forced to. If (and it's a big if) Oscar can get closer to Max in points, McLaren would be stupid to not favour Piastri with strategies. The only reason why Lando is the number 1 driver is because of rankings, so if Oscar ends up higher, Lando has no bargaining power
I'm Australian, and a McLaren fan from the 90s. I hope Lando digs deep here, and this lapse into adversity makes him stronger. Seeing my local boy up is a thing, but watching Lando slide on lap 1 gives me vertigo. Let's see the summer break inject a bit of fire into his injectors
Felt pretty sorry for George, makes the call, comes good, doesn't choke and everything looks pretty glorious. Must have been a pretty crippling gut punch.
a Note about Charles' top speed: this has nothing to do with set up, he was the only driver to never have DRS down the Kemmel straight while every other driver did at some point on low fuel in the race (he had DRS on HAM in some of the first few laps on the SF straight but because the Ferrari was very slow in La Source, he couldn't get DRS coming out of it). But still goes to show how strong his performance was that he was able to defend with no DRS with a slower car!!
Watching the entirety of the LawVs livestream yesterday made my day. You need to do more of them! I would genuinely watch those over the F1 post race show PS: thank you for staying in that toasty attic for an hour uninterrupted
@@freyalove3831 I really hope it's as soon as next year because 2026 regs might shake things up too much and I haven't got a lot of faith in McLaren to still be quick then
@@robwhitmore3040 McLaren seems to get it together, 2026 is a different animal. With Piastri and Lando as a driver you have a chance your team wins. Whereas Ferrari carry with these terrible strategists, we are not going anywhere.
Insane that some people are calling George the cheater here. This is obviously on Mercedes. What do people think? George snuck into the garage in the middle of the night and started ripping chunks off his car? Lmao.
I think it's a very plausible story tbf. George is known to have a carbon craving and may have simply eaten part of his car. Then again the weight is measured including the driver so he'll have to have shed the carbon somehow.
Oscar is like a rough diamond right now, has raw speed and some insane wheel to wheel racing talent. Needs a lot of polishing though. The last few races should be a wake up call for Norris as Oscar is closing in rapidly for that P2 spot in the championship.
Oscar is pretty much equal with Max on around 114 points for the last 7 races and equal with Lewis on 80 points over the last 4 races. I think he can win the world championship this year but he will need to win 6 of the last 10 races. If McLaren doesn't continue to stuff up his pitt strategy you never know.
DSQ aside, the fact that Mercedes was even fighting for a win on a weekend where they looked nowhere in the leadup to Sunday was a genuine surprise. They might be in for a good second half. Just don't lose more wins to technical breaches...
they will keep losing as long as they let their driver orchestrate his own strategy out of nowhere they had no data whatsoever because they didn't run old setup on this track wo it was a real shot in the dark by russell
@@Appletank8 The reason that Merc's data pointed to fifth (I think third was probably more realistic tbh if he hadn't pushed the car so much), is due the lack of info on the effect of the resurfacing of part of the track. Full credit to him for throwing the dice but I believed he didn't lift and coast enough and had excessive tyre wear. My hindsight thought is that he should have let Lewis past whilst Piastri was still significantly behind and slipstreamed and used his DRS, as I said on another post "done a Songapore". Would have used less fuel too.
It's crazy that tyres are included with the weighing of the cars The cars should be weighed without anything that changes in mass throughout the race: fuel, tyres, water, seats (since they weigh different amounts based on the driver as the seat + driver needs to weigh a minimum amount)
All the strategies proposed by pirelli involved two stops. Anyone claiming this was an attempt by mercedes at sabotaging lewis in favour of george is a lunatic. George was the one to propose the one stop strategy anyways, if lewis felt his tires were healthy enough to risk a one-stopper, he should have insisted on it.
Nobody sane person believes Mercedes tried to sabotage Lewis’ race with bad strategy in favor of Russell. Only a completely delulusional boneheaded, egotistical narcissist/sycophant would believe that. So yeah Lewis and his glazers believe that.
The slow down lap excuse makes little sense when you consider that others have done the 1 stop and weren't underweight at the end. Mercedes also tried to hide the issue by leaving fuel in the tank. Why would they do that?
I feel for Checo. In the opening laps, he had power issues which I don't believe were ever fully resolved, he was also pitted a bit earlier than expected for his second stop. Given the body language of Checo and Max after the race. I think we already know that they've raced their last race together.
I'm really happy about the words you spent on Ocon's situations, the guy is ridiculously underrated and over-hated, like, the dude will never get any credit no matter how right he is and how well he performs. I personally like his ruthless and no nonsense attitude of just trying to assert himself as much as he can both on track and in a team, while remaining more than fair most of the time. He is tough as nails but contrarily to what many people says, has mostly great race-craft.
I don't think the overall hate is justifiable, however his decision making leaves something to be required of. He makes a lot of risky defensive maneuvers that have proven to be badly miscalculated time and time again and can ruin any potentially decent result he and/or his teammate could achieve. In my opinion this criticism is well deserved.
He does not remain "more than fair" most of the time. With every teammate he has had some type of unnecesary feud, coupled with some pretty dodgy race manouvers. He Is always more agressive with his teammates than he is with other drivers. As much as he has racecraft, he is a liability for every team and is chronically incapable of maximizing the team's chances at scoring points.
They did "accidently" leave 1.8 kg of extra fuel in the tank for the weighing and was subsequently drained after discovered by the stewards. They might have done the calculations wrong but they definitely knew they were underweight. I don't think they were underweight on purpose since all cars get weighted at the end.
Lewis was mad because he said that he wanted a one stop, as per the team meeting, and then Merc didn't even tell Lewis that George was taking the One stop, it should have been a choice for him because he really felt that he had tires, and he was not falling off, so it feels like a genuine thing. I don't understand the George hate but I really feel that Merc shot themselves in the foot, because they actually didn't expect George to have tires till the end. A real disconnect between the drivers and the pitwall, in my opinion.
Here’s the thing about this, their plan was always for Lewis to get P1 that’s why they pitted him, to get ahead of Leclerc. When George wanted to go one-stop, they worked out all the possibilities and thought the tires were going to fall off, but he had a shot at podium rather than p5 which is where he would have ended up. It’s George’s driving that made P1 possible and whatever they messed up to make his car 4lbs underweight.
Yeah it was basically similar to the Mclaren situation last race except Merc did it accidentally. I don't hate George but it would definitely be easy to see why Lewis would not be happy with that situation if he'd requested to do the one stop before and was the quicker driver all weekend.
@@russ99ai agree but it proves the 1 stop was better. That means Mercedes should have told russel to let Lewis by as it was a bad strategy call to put Lewis on 2 stops. Lewis was the winner of the race through his qualifying and race pace.
@@russ99ageorge driving didn't make p1 possible he should have been told to let hamilton through because hamilton was 8 tenths faster than him but as soon as he caught him he lost all the time in sector 2 because of russell's tire wake so it was not fair from the team, hamilton had to make sure piastri/leclerc/perez are kept behind the whole race, russell didn't do that if hamilton was p3 where he started then perez or leclerc would have rather gone onto one stop and made it work just like russell, hamilton made it possible for even russell to stay ahead of everyone else
It's such a shame how the last few races have gone for George. George has been a decent chunk better across this season than lewis, but the team mates point battle has swung from a 26 point advantage to a 34 point disadvantage in 3 races. All 3 factors being a mercedes issue / miscalculation.
True, he would be closer but Lewis would still hold the lead all things considered, especially if you play the what if game with Lewis DNF in Australia (yes Russell DNF but that was driver error)
Pretty much everyone (I was expecting Norris to win) anticipated that Max would blow by everyone else and get the lead by lap 20 or something, even though he never said he was in a position to do that himself
It wasn't really tragic. .. it proved to me Piastri is on the hunt, and he's the driver with the highest upside coming into racing, and racing in Asia and the Americas, he's getting the most cheers here. 🎉
6:34 the reason Leclercs Top speed was so because he was never in DRS range of anyone during the race, every time he got passed he fell a second behind
As a McLaren fan, they did still botch the strategy, and not just by not trying a 1 stop. They didn't go for any undercuts with either driver, despite going onto hards after every stop. Also, I wouldn't say that Oscar has definitely solved his tire degradation problems, because one of the strengths of the McLaren car right now seems to be how it treats the tires (in most circumstances, but maybe not all). Lando definitely needs to get his starts sorted out though, as it's starting to get embarrassing for him.
As a Max fan I am quite relieved that Mercedes did well - either George or Lewis winning is not a bad thing at all. Also, I am quite relieved that there is a bit of a break now. These weekends have been a lot of fun to follow, but almost every race has been filled with controversy since Austria. :)
Thank you for condemning the completely uncalled for attacks on George and Mercedes. I’m a Mercedes fan so I love to see both drivers do well and was initially sad Hamilton was leaving. But after these past three years I’ll be glad to see teamLH leave to Ferrari. Like you said though I do feel bad for Charles, the Tifosi vs TeamLH will be brutal. Don’t think they’ll put up with it as much as Mercedes and Russell fans have.
I’m bothered by the fact that George was not in contention for driver of the day. Guy made the right call, drove beautifully, and was holding the lead and actually won. But nope let’s give it to Hamilton instead who didn’t do anything outstanding.
I don’t think he’s gotten driver of the day since he went to Mercedes. He didn’t even get it in Brazil 2022. People just don’t like him for some reason.
I'm going to guess that people assumed that George was going to slip back into 3rd or 4th and that's why they didn't vote for him. I think Driver of the Day closes right at the conclusion of the race so it's not like people can vote after they saw the whole race.
It’s hard to put him into contention without knowing the true extent the 1.5kg played into the race result. Maybe that 1.5kg made a bigger difference than you think, Maybe it didn’t but we don’t know.
@@scotturbanski740 the voting was still open when he was leading with 5 laps to go. From P7 to P1 in a one stop and people still voted for the guy who didn’t do anything impressive.
George didn’t cheat, nor does anyone remotely reasonable thinks that. His car failed to meet the post race requirements. That’s frustrating, but he will have gotten a confidence boost and confirmation that his judgement to go for a 1 stop was correct. In the long run, that is still a win.
@@freyalove3831 Merc didn’t cheat. They just hadn’t taken a 1 stopper into account. The longer stint meant less rubber on the tires at the end of the race (times 4), so someone probably told Toto they might be on the edge, hence the long face. Also, they couldn’t pick up rubber in the in lap, as per usual. 1.5 kilograms or, for our imperial friends, a little over 3 pounds is easily picked up by driving through the marbles. Failing a weigh in doesn’t automatically mean you’ve cheated, cheating implies intend and since the 1 stopper was George’s call, Merc aren’t to blame.
Toto knew. George wasn’t cheating but watch the end of the race again. Toto knew it was coming. Also they never expected George to be on the pod but Lewis was expected which is why Lewis’s car was good and George’s wasn’t
My heart breaks for Checo it does. I love him. I worry about seeing Danny in that car and Danny having the EXACT same problems as Checo. Potentially a problem with the car? Idk?
What makes me hesitant in feeling happy for Lewis is seeing how TeamLH reacted when George got the well deserved win. George showed an absolute masterclass in tyre management. And yet LITERALLY ALL the comments on posts by Merc on insta, fb, etc. ALL of them were vile, disgusting and toxic. Everytime I get impressed by Hamilton and I start to like him for his ability and racecraft, his Fandom just absolutely ruins it for me. I mean some of the things these people were saying I wouldn't say to my enemies. And they were saying those things about lewis' teammate. That's no way to act.
It wasnt a masterclass. He simply took at gamble, stayed out and anyone could have done it since the tyres did not degrade much at all. If u take a gamble you might win or loose but its not really on merit. He did nothing the entire race other than roll the dice since he had nothing to loose. But this time it lost him everything. Its just how gambles work
As far as George and Mercedes goes, an obvious mistake but can understand how this could happen. As a club racer in the US, we roll over the scales after every race. Always a challenge to get it 100% correct so always error of the higher side by a few pounds. I find it easy to image that the one stop strategy coupled with SPA's quick exit post checkered flag (no cool down lap) played a major role. But then again, this is F1 and Mercedes should have not made such a simple and easy to avoid mistake.
So Mercedes allowed Hamilton and Russell to race when they knew Russell had almost six plus seconds on Hamilton... No Matter what you say, Hamilton was by far the best driver and faster on the conventional strategy. Russell gambled his way to first knowing it was against his teammate and he lost. So congratulations to Russell for his bold move but at the end it was LH race not his. Feel free to disagree with me!!!
Had a awesome weekend hanging out with the VCARB and Rodin boys and girls. Caught up with Liam over a few coffees and I must say he was the most positive I have seen him in a while and he has picked up some new sponsors as well. The Danny Ric side of the garage had a completely different vibe to it and this was even before a wheel was turned on track so I think decisions had been made before the weekend. No matter what happens it seems Danny Ric has a seat next year.
Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel I really do. But given his performance the past season and a half vs Yuki's performance on average..If he gets the 2nd RB seat over Yuki that will be a nearly unforgivable tragedy. RB have absolutely done Yuki dirty and I hope he finds a team willing to buy his contract out before 25. Yuki has more than at least earned a shot at driving on the main team and half a season is more than a reasonable try.
You mean Carlos officially Sainz with Williams. Then that means Logan is set to move to Indy with Prema. Wish Logan the best of luck on the 2nd half on a strong conclusion to his seaaon.
As soon as Hamilton is doing bad you hear his fans saying "aaaah they're sabotaging him on purpose!", when this happened to George it's not sabotage, they blame him for sheeting. Blows my mind how the brains of these people work. People who think that George cheated don't know how F1 works.
@sandraisaksson7853 No one talking cheating, but sneaky move from Russell knowing his teammate was winning the race. That doesn't help Mercedes as a whole!!! He shouldn't had fought Hamilton when he got to him... I feel really sorry for George but that's life. We all pay the consequences of our actions
@@qefa070 what was George's sneaky move? And you say he shouldnt have fought Hamilton? My friend, they are all competitive F1 drivers, they wont simply allow another to pass by unless the teams orders it, and the team allowed them to fight (as long as they didnt put each other at risk, which they didnt)
@@qefa070”A 1-2 doesn’t help Mercedes as a whole.” Peak DeLulu d-rider logic. Sorry softshell, he didn’t fight Hamilton. He didn’t have to; Hamilton just straight up isn’t as good as his teammate on 230km old tires.🤗
@@danieljardim5245he didn’t even fight him to begin with; he passed him while he was pitting and Hamilton didn’t know how to pass even though George put up minimal defense.
Sorry but I don't buy the pickup thing being the reason the car was underweight. Alonso also did the one stop and his car wasn't underweight. If the margins were that fine I'm pretty sure a lot of other drivers would have got DQed too
Not all cars are weighed. It is random. Usually about 20% of the field. Hamilton's car checked after Russel's underweight. Driver's weight is part of car weight. Maybe Russell was sweating too much with Hamilton on his rear diffuser.
Drivers usually lose a couple of kgs during a race. Mercedes should have allowed for all variables. They know the regs, sign a statement saying they comply that is why no appeal. They stuffed up.
@@kityhawk2000 Thanks for the correction. I was under a false impression after reading an article by an authoritative source on the internet about F1 post race scrutineering procedures. Incorrect info on the internet..who would have thought? On checking the published report from last years Austin GP. All finishing cars were weighed (17). The 3 non finishes were not. The other checks , and there were many, were more random. Easy checks were all cars while the more complicated checks less cars. The planks were measure just on 4. The podium finishes plus Charles (6th.). So thanks for putting me straight on that.
Still seems strange that they exclude some consumables, like fuel, in the final weigh in, but include others like tires. Surely the “weight reduction” of the tires does more harm than good?
George Russell drove the race of his life and got it stolen away from him. Even a day later I feel so bad for him and such a great race is completely marred and unsatisfying. Hamilton drove an excellent drive though and was one of the three drivers who all deserved the win. Both Merc drivers drove out of their mind this race. Those two and Piastri were just in a league of their own. Also, when I saw 'box, box' for Piastri, watching at home I audibly said, "Nooooo" because it really felt like the one stop could work just looking at how little deg in lap times they had to that point. Oscar had even recently just set the fastest lap of the race despite others just pitting.
I have to wonder if RB has adjusted the car to Daniel's liking as of Canada, possibly to save him from being let go, at the expense of Yuki (because he has the contract extension).
No, Daniel has actually helped Yuki. Through his experience he was able to give VCarb (according to team boss) valuable setup feedback which Yuki could not. Ironically Yuki was able to make better use of this earlier.
I think the F1 gods want to punished George Russell for Perez not performing well recently which could explain Russell all bad luck in the last 3 races.
From what I heard if George pit it was for net position 5th if he attempted the one stop it was a net position of 5th or better. I do think it was a spur of the moment thing but Merc has ALWAYS done the same strategy for both cars when going for a win. I think that is why Lewis was so upset with the team as it looked like they pulled one over on him and gave the win to George. In the end he got the win but I think after he reviews the data and if what Merc was saying was truthful he will be able to understand. Not that he will be happy but will not feel so betrayed.
Would have been hard for Piastri to get past the two Mercedes. Clean air being king, the dirty air effect and the effective DRS train would have hampered his efforts. Lewis was taking 7 tenths out of George and still couldn't get past
WHAAAAA...??? DQ for George??? Thats a real nut cruncher, he drove a BRILLIANT race. I do appreciate how in Mercedes each half of the garage gets to call it's own shots and yesterday's race was a pure example of why that is the way it should be. Poor data on Friday, nada on Saturday so now it's up to the DRIVERS to make the call. And George made the right call, I dont care what anyone says. As for McLaren, Oscar is THE new "iceman". He showed a little vulnerability last week when Lando was baiting him to catch up [as well he should] but post race adbitted he made it harder for the team than he should. Total class, this kid, I hope he sticks around F1 for a long time.
Fair enough..... but if lewis said he wanted the one stop before the race and was denied then comes Russell and suggested it during the race and got it they may have grounds for it I guess.
@@andrehoward5130 right so its either the strategist makes the call based on the data they have or they spell the whole picture of the field to Hamilton and have him pick but then people will complain that they are overwhelming him with info. I wonder when F1 will have HMD for the drivers so the radio isn't jammed up with time gaps and other peoples tires, they can just get a wide picture with a quick glance.
Not quite sure why you guys immediately call out fans for the team screwing up. Don't remember seeing this last week with Oscar and Lando fans and that was a very similar situation. Mercedes basically did what Mclaren did except they did it accidentally. That's the long and short of it. As for hating on Lewis fans or George fans or Lando fans or Oscar fans I think you are all as dumb as each other but it's pretty easy to see why any driver would not have been happy if they had been in Lewis position similar to how its easy to see why Oscar and Lando weren't happy last race.
I doubt it's a shootout, rather than an opportunity to get photos of the drivers in the cars and uniforms. It's more believable that the decision is made rather than a actual shootout for the RBR seat.
I wish you would have realised the Ocon situation before and not just follow other british media's claims. Especially about Viry-Châtillon and Enstone's responsibilities in the poor car. The garbox mount issues for example. These are mounted by the Enstone guys, not the engine suppliers. The engine, as seen as Spa for example, is not as slow as it's rumoured to. The thing it most lacks is reliability.
What happened to George was heartbreaking, he absolutely deserved that win and that's coming from a Lewis fan, George had an amazing race with a bold strategy that he made work wonders, shame what happened to him
George broke the rules. Consequences. This has happened to Lewis, Charles and other racers in the past; where were the excuses then? Let's roll with it. Thems the brakes, and there should be no whining. It's about the rules! Piastri and Ricardo are aces!
I was at this GP (my home GP and my very first one ever!) and I haven't watched the race back on TV, so my viewpoint may be skewed and/or limited. But I'm not sure the criticism of Lando w.r.t. being unable to pass Max wasn't entirely fair given Max's new engine. The most important overtaking spots at Spa are just after the two long straights/high speed sections. Of course he put himself into this position with his turn 1 mistake (and this is something he needs to address, he seems to suffer from either too much or too little adrenaline at the start). But I don't think it's too surprising that Max was able to defend against him with the new engine. What did surprise me was the McLaren pitstop strategy, which you rightly pointed out as well. They need to get a handle on this, soon, if they want to be true contenders.
To add to your point about Oscar's tyre management skills, it's time for Mclaren to be ruthless and uncompromising and as I see it, only Oscar seems to have got the memo for that! After the summer break, I see a realaxed Oscar Piastri having a surge of good form and results. I think Ricciardo is gonna take the Red Bull seat after Mexico. Perez would likely decline to drive the VCARB so Lawson will get that seat.
I'm genuinely gutted for Russell. He's shown in the past that he's pretty good at taking the strategy into his hands and making it work for him, he did that in spades at Spa and he didn't choke under the pressure when defending from Hamilton. I don't understand the people claiming George was cheating though when it was a Mercedes cock-up! It's not like George decided himself to run his car under weight while twirling a fake moustache! Is it just me too or did Toto Wolff not look particularly happy after the chequered flag? I thought he would have been a bit more animated that both his cars crossed the line 1-2, his reaction seemed a bit odd to me.
My favourite track in the season! And one of the best drives for 1st I've seen in years! How quickly that after race buzz you get turned to a bitter taste in my mouth.
George was 100% in the winners here; it's mercedes that's the loser. George had the foresight to brave the 1 stop, he drove a smart race and then managed to hold off Lewis Hamilton for over 4 laps with far fresher tires. How can he be a loser? My jaw was on the groud, it was a world-class drive. I'm truly gutted for the end result, he earned every bit of that win.
Despite obviously being devastated for George (He's one of my favourite drivers) a genuine question and pinch for thought here. Why does the FIA weigh cars with tires on? I mean that makes little, to no sense to me. Because that is not really the weight of the car when it's racing. Picking up the marbles on the cooldown lap is essentially something that the teams do to prevent from being caught 'cheating'. But that happens like every single Grand Prix and every single team is doing it. Despite this it's also bound to be inconsistent at times imo. Maybe some tires pick up fewer marbles than others for some reason. Why don't they just take off the tires and weigh the actual car?
There was definitely something else, because none of the drivers could go round and collect marbles and no one else was underweight that bad. Possible from the changes made to his car on Friday??
My thoughts: Gutted for George. I think about the Oscar and tire management actually might still be an issue because he's doing well when there's multiple stop races.
And also his surprise when he learned George pulled that one-pit stop strat tells us that Oscar admits he cannot pull it off and probably I wouldnt say McLaren was being conservative. But in the case of Norris, they could've probably considered it. I am an OP fan but thought MCL strat team couldve helped Lando witha one pit stop strat.
I am not at all a fan of George - I've often called out his whiney and nagging behaviour on the radio. Or just even his entitlement to race victories since joining Mercedes. However, this was so sad to see! We only get treated a few times a year when the driver changes the strategy on the spot and gets a victory. Your explanation of having changed parts sounds possible. But ... correct me if I'm wrong: They weighed the car after the race and then discovered there was some fuel still in there. Only after that fuel was also extracted, the car was too light. If this is true, Mercedes should be investigated for tampering with evidence. This is why parc ferme exists and why drivers aren't allowed to touch other cars. As for Perez - he needs to go. He's been a good driver, a good defender, and played an absolute critical role in some races. However, we cannot deny how bad his other races were. In 2022 he was angry at Max for not helping him at Interlagos - but that was his own fault for underperforming to the point that Hamilton got 2nd. In 2023 he even barely made 2nd place! His crashes also play a part here. He had 4 crashes this year already.
The mistake is listening to Lewis fans in the first place and not actively dismissing what they say. The second mistake is giving credence to anything Lewis says when he's not happy with the result after the race. He moans and runs his mouth at his team like he's a schoolgirl. None of what Lewis said was correct. He reminds me of Lando in a lot of ways when it comes to strategy, except Lando is honest and does not needlessly cast aspersions against his team.
What I don't understand is: If the tire wear was such that it accounted for 1.5kg of weight discrepancy (so let's assume the tires actually lost more than 1.5kg of weight assuming the team would have had a bit of a buffer to the weight limit), how did George then have the grip to keep Lewis from passing for 2-3 laps when Lewis was like 0.7 seconds a lap faster to that point? Were the hard tires just goated that day? Even if you want to say George's care was lighter the whole race (not from tire wear) the fact remains that Lewis was way faster then him, until he caught up
I think the story will be the GR garage lost track of all the changes they were making to car specification (wings/floors/bodywork etc) and an error of 1 to 2 kg crept in to the calculations. GR and LH had different set up, GR was quick in S1+3 so he could out run DRS. LH was quick in S2 but you can't overtake there.
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Loved the live the other day. Especially the bit where you admitted being a wierdo. Was doing a timing belt and water pump on my car on my front lawn while listening. As a fellow wierdo who also admits it freely I was cheering you on laughing my ass off and looking like an idiot, to all those walking past. Not that I care.
If Oscars jack man did hold his ground, was knocked out of the way and the backup jack man had to step in, Oscar’s pit would have been 8-10 seconds. That jack man saved his race. Hope Oscar gets him a great apology gift.
Apology is probably not the right word
In footy, we aussies call that a bump. Here's a concrete pill mate 😂
@@RockSolitude it’s more of a combination gift, sorry for almost running you over, thank you for standing your ground gift
You mean if he didn't hold his ground?
@@Azmania3000and that bump applies to all codes played down under
If Lando doesn't figure out how to have a good first lap, he'll lose P2 in the WDC to Oscar by COTA
If Lando loses 2nd in the WDC to Oscar, I doubt he’ll ever cede positions again.
@SanchezS1998 he might be forced to. If (and it's a big if) Oscar can get closer to Max in points, McLaren would be stupid to not favour Piastri with strategies.
The only reason why Lando is the number 1 driver is because of rankings, so if Oscar ends up higher, Lando has no bargaining power
kinda ironic that oscar is like on the other side of the spectrum when it comes to starts compared to lando
I'm Australian, and a McLaren fan from the 90s. I hope Lando digs deep here, and this lapse into adversity makes him stronger. Seeing my local boy up is a thing, but watching Lando slide on lap 1 gives me vertigo. Let's see the summer break inject a bit of fire into his injectors
@@SanchezS1998 Ceding position in Hungary won't be the reason why Lando loses 2nd.
Stroll moaning about the lack of topspeed.. while having the highest top speed.
That is criminally bad lmao. Stroll is an ass I'm not sorry
Was coming straight to the comments to see if anybody else was thinking the same thing.
Lewis has come full circle. He won the 2008 Belgian GP and was disqualified for his pass on Kimi, now he's re-interited it again
Interesting fact you got there
didn't he just get a 20s penalty? he was demoted to 3rd.
@@D4C_LoveTrain1Lewis?
He did. He finished 3rd in the end.
@@yt_Ajay_ who?
Felt pretty sorry for George, makes the call, comes good, doesn't choke and everything looks pretty glorious. Must have been a pretty crippling gut punch.
Honestly! George wasn't even in contention for the Win! Even Toto and Mercedes knew George would be compromised at the end of that race...
I don't. If he wanted to take a risk, he must be willing to accept the consequences of the gamble.
took the risk paid the price i felt sorry for hamilton too who earned it
@@kevindwelle1625 so you are basically saying Mercedes intentionally sabotaged Russell again?
toto's reaction (lack off) was a telltale he knew something was wrong.
a Note about Charles' top speed: this has nothing to do with set up, he was the only driver to never have DRS down the Kemmel straight while every other driver did at some point on low fuel in the race (he had DRS on HAM in some of the first few laps on the SF straight but because the Ferrari was very slow in La Source, he couldn't get DRS coming out of it). But still goes to show how strong his performance was that he was able to defend with no DRS with a slower car!!
Watching the entirety of the LawVs livestream yesterday made my day. You need to do more of them! I would genuinely watch those over the F1 post race show
PS: thank you for staying in that toasty attic for an hour uninterrupted
My boy Oscar gonna be an ABSOLUTE MENACE on the second half of the season
Oscar is going to be a WDC soon, my dear. Mark my words.
@@freyalove3831I just wrote down your comment in a notebook and marked it.
@@daarom3472 I wish we could save our replies in RUclips.
@@freyalove3831 I really hope it's as soon as next year because 2026 regs might shake things up too much and I haven't got a lot of faith in McLaren to still be quick then
@@robwhitmore3040 McLaren seems to get it together, 2026 is a different animal. With Piastri and Lando as a driver you have a chance your team wins. Whereas Ferrari carry with these terrible strategists, we are not going anywhere.
Insane that some people are calling George the cheater here. This is obviously on Mercedes. What do people think? George snuck into the garage in the middle of the night and started ripping chunks off his car? Lmao.
It’s Delulu fans. What do you expect? For them to touch grass? 🤣
Legit though I promise they sent George death threats before he was DQ’d. #Blessed
I think it's a very plausible story tbf. George is known to have a carbon craving and may have simply eaten part of his car. Then again the weight is measured including the driver so he'll have to have shed the carbon somehow.
@@bniceuk8207 Alright, then by that logic, Lewis cheated in Austin 2023. Idiot.
He's in on the plot
Oscar is like a rough diamond right now, has raw speed and some insane wheel to wheel racing talent. Needs a lot of polishing though. The last few races should be a wake up call for Norris as Oscar is closing in rapidly for that P2 spot in the championship.
Can see young Oscar's confidence growing in every race now, he's gonna be a weapon in 2025
Piastri is gonna make norris look like an amateur soon.
Oscar is pretty much equal with Max on around 114 points for the last 7 races and equal with Lewis on 80 points over the last 4 races. I think he can win the world championship this year but he will need to win 6 of the last 10 races. If McLaren doesn't continue to stuff up his pitt strategy you never know.
Oscar is a cold headed and has the right stuff to be a WDC. I have seen this way before racing F1.
The overtake on Charles was "Oscar in a nutshell!". What a driver.
4:10 Oscar has cracked the F1 tyre code.
No one is safe.
@@LawVSyou are in a simulation
DSQ aside, the fact that Mercedes was even fighting for a win on a weekend where they looked nowhere in the leadup to Sunday was a genuine surprise.
They might be in for a good second half. Just don't lose more wins to technical breaches...
they will keep losing as long as they let their driver orchestrate his own strategy out of nowhere they had no data whatsoever because they didn't run old setup on this track wo it was a real shot in the dark by russell
@@RehanX44 Merc'n own data said that Russel was going to get 5th at best, so why not try something wacky?
@@Appletank8 The reason that Merc's data pointed to fifth (I think third was probably more realistic tbh if he hadn't pushed the car so much), is due the lack of info on the effect of the resurfacing of part of the track. Full credit to him for throwing the dice but I believed he didn't lift and coast enough and had excessive tyre wear. My hindsight thought is that he should have let Lewis past whilst Piastri was still significantly behind and slipstreamed and used his DRS, as I said on another post "done a Songapore". Would have used less fuel too.
Merc never really show their hand in FP anyway
Piastri is getting too powerful. The Jack Man only felt 10% of his power and was nearly blown off his feet
It's crazy that tyres are included with the weighing of the cars
The cars should be weighed without anything that changes in mass throughout the race: fuel, tyres, water, seats (since they weigh different amounts based on the driver as the seat + driver needs to weigh a minimum amount)
All the strategies proposed by pirelli involved two stops. Anyone claiming this was an attempt by mercedes at sabotaging lewis in favour of george is a lunatic. George was the one to propose the one stop strategy anyways, if lewis felt his tires were healthy enough to risk a one-stopper, he should have insisted on it.
no one was claiming that, its only in his head
@@x340xTeamLH was
@@rawallen9715 yeah but TeamLH are lizard people
Nobody sane person believes Mercedes tried to sabotage Lewis’ race with bad strategy in favor of Russell. Only a completely delulusional boneheaded, egotistical narcissist/sycophant would believe that. So yeah Lewis and his glazers believe that.
He did insist on it. He told his team multiple times his tires were fine.
In 1 day we get: Russel win and DSQ, Law livestream, 74.6K subscribers, Law Video and CARLOS TO WILLIAMS?!?!
Holy heck I hadn’t heard that yet. Thanks!!
and soon Logan to Mercedes
The slow down lap excuse makes little sense when you consider that others have done the 1 stop and weren't underweight at the end. Mercedes also tried to hide the issue by leaving fuel in the tank. Why would they do that?
They're sneaky Krauts. Nothing ever changes. Lol
I feel for Checo. In the opening laps, he had power issues which I don't believe were ever fully resolved, he was also pitted a bit earlier than expected for his second stop.
Given the body language of Checo and Max after the race. I think we already know that they've raced their last race together.
I'm really happy about the words you spent on Ocon's situations, the guy is ridiculously underrated and over-hated, like, the dude will never get any credit no matter how right he is and how well he performs.
I personally like his ruthless and no nonsense attitude of just trying to assert himself as much as he can both on track and in a team, while remaining more than fair most of the time.
He is tough as nails but contrarily to what many people says, has mostly great race-craft.
I don't think the overall hate is justifiable, however his decision making leaves something to be required of. He makes a lot of risky defensive maneuvers that have proven to be badly miscalculated time and time again and can ruin any potentially decent result he and/or his teammate could achieve. In my opinion this criticism is well deserved.
He does not remain "more than fair" most of the time. With every teammate he has had some type of unnecesary feud, coupled with some pretty dodgy race manouvers. He Is always more agressive with his teammates than he is with other drivers. As much as he has racecraft, he is a liability for every team and is chronically incapable of maximizing the team's chances at scoring points.
Ocon rocks! I'm excited to see him at Haas.
Oscar Piastri is OP!!
He’s the most exciting driver on the grid right now!!
Lando fans, come back in 12 months and tell me that Lando is McLaren's number one driver.
Saw the notification, instantly clicked. This weekend was too spicy
It seems weird that the tyres are included in the weight in a way
This right here. The FIA should put their own specific measurement tires on the cars when they’re weighed.
They did "accidently" leave 1.8 kg of extra fuel in the tank for the weighing and was subsequently drained after discovered by the stewards. They might have done the calculations wrong but they definitely knew they were underweight. I don't think they were underweight on purpose since all cars get weighted at the end.
Lewis was mad because he said that he wanted a one stop, as per the team meeting, and then Merc didn't even tell Lewis that George was taking the One stop, it should have been a choice for him because he really felt that he had tires, and he was not falling off, so it feels like a genuine thing.
I don't understand the George hate but I really feel that Merc shot themselves in the foot, because they actually didn't expect George to have tires till the end.
A real disconnect between the drivers and the pitwall, in my opinion.
Here’s the thing about this, their plan was always for Lewis to get P1 that’s why they pitted him, to get ahead of Leclerc. When George wanted to go one-stop, they worked out all the possibilities and thought the tires were going to fall off, but he had a shot at podium rather than p5 which is where he would have ended up. It’s George’s driving that made P1 possible and whatever they messed up to make his car 4lbs underweight.
Yeah it was basically similar to the Mclaren situation last race except Merc did it accidentally. I don't hate George but it would definitely be easy to see why Lewis would not be happy with that situation if he'd requested to do the one stop before and was the quicker driver all weekend.
@@russ99ai agree but it proves the 1 stop was better. That means Mercedes should have told russel to let Lewis by as it was a bad strategy call to put Lewis on 2 stops. Lewis was the winner of the race through his qualifying and race pace.
@@russ99ageorge driving didn't make p1 possible he should have been told to let hamilton through because hamilton was 8 tenths faster than him but as soon as he caught him he lost all the time in sector 2 because of russell's tire wake so it was not fair from the team, hamilton had to make sure piastri/leclerc/perez are kept behind the whole race, russell didn't do that if hamilton was p3 where he started then perez or leclerc would have rather gone onto one stop and made it work just like russell, hamilton made it possible for even russell to stay ahead of everyone else
@@russ99ahe was leading he ce prioritised as the lead driver
It's such a shame how the last few races have gone for George. George has been a decent chunk better across this season than lewis, but the team mates point battle has swung from a 26 point advantage to a 34 point disadvantage in 3 races. All 3 factors being a mercedes issue / miscalculation.
He has been very unlucky
@@Anna-gm6zyAustria exists
@@j.s3300 yes?
True, he would be closer but Lewis would still hold the lead all things considered, especially if you play the what if game with Lewis DNF in Australia (yes Russell DNF but that was driver error)
@@Jay-nk6dm an Alonso driver error however. Not a Russell one.
Russell said to stewards "Weigh a minute" 🤣
A minute of silence for George
I'd call this a win for Max. Pole with almost 0.6 gap. Ended up in 4th in front of his direct rival Lando despite a 10 place grid penalty....🤷♂️
Pretty much everyone (I was expecting Norris to win) anticipated that Max would blow by everyone else and get the lead by lap 20 or something, even though he never said he was in a position to do that himself
It wasn't really tragic. .. it proved to me Piastri is on the hunt, and he's the driver with the highest upside coming into racing, and racing in Asia and the Americas, he's getting the most cheers here. 🎉
6:34 the reason Leclercs Top speed was so because he was never in DRS range of anyone during the race, every time he got passed he fell a second behind
Leclerc didn't put a fight with Hamilton, let Hamilton pass by it like nothing. Leclerc is not made to drive in F1.
As a McLaren fan, they did still botch the strategy, and not just by not trying a 1 stop. They didn't go for any undercuts with either driver, despite going onto hards after every stop.
Also, I wouldn't say that Oscar has definitely solved his tire degradation problems, because one of the strengths of the McLaren car right now seems to be how it treats the tires (in most circumstances, but maybe not all).
Lando definitely needs to get his starts sorted out though, as it's starting to get embarrassing for him.
I feel like I live in your attic and you just come up to passionately talk about F1 every so often 😂 I loved the livestream yesterday too!
Charles low top speed was mostly due to him not getting DRS in the Kimmel straight at any time during the race!
As a Max fan I am quite relieved that Mercedes did well - either George or Lewis winning is not a bad thing at all. Also, I am quite relieved that there is a bit of a break now. These weekends have been a lot of fun to follow, but almost every race has been filled with controversy since Austria. :)
Thank you for condemning the completely uncalled for attacks on George and Mercedes. I’m a Mercedes fan so I love to see both drivers do well and was initially sad Hamilton was leaving. But after these past three years I’ll be glad to see teamLH leave to Ferrari. Like you said though I do feel bad for Charles, the Tifosi vs TeamLH will be brutal. Don’t think they’ll put up with it as much as Mercedes and Russell fans have.
I’m bothered by the fact that George was not in contention for driver of the day.
Guy made the right call, drove beautifully, and was holding the lead and actually won.
But nope let’s give it to Hamilton instead who didn’t do anything outstanding.
I don’t think he’s gotten driver of the day since he went to Mercedes. He didn’t even get it in Brazil 2022. People just don’t like him for some reason.
I'm going to guess that people assumed that George was going to slip back into 3rd or 4th and that's why they didn't vote for him. I think Driver of the Day closes right at the conclusion of the race so it's not like people can vote after they saw the whole race.
It’s hard to put him into contention without knowing the true extent the 1.5kg played into the race result.
Maybe that 1.5kg made a bigger difference than you think, Maybe it didn’t but we don’t know.
@@scotturbanski740 the voting was still open when he was leading with 5 laps to go.
From P7 to P1 in a one stop and people still voted for the guy who didn’t do anything impressive.
@@salim_abid_ bruh the voting is during the race not after 😂😂
George didn’t cheat, nor does anyone remotely reasonable thinks that. His car failed to meet the post race requirements. That’s frustrating, but he will have gotten a confidence boost and confirmation that his judgement to go for a 1 stop was correct. In the long run, that is still a win.
Not George. But Mercedes cheated.Even Toto knew something is up ( he was not smiling as usual when two Mercedes cars in the podium)
@@freyalove3831 Merc didn’t cheat. They just hadn’t taken a 1 stopper into account. The longer stint meant less rubber on the tires at the end of the race (times 4), so someone probably told Toto they might be on the edge, hence the long face. Also, they couldn’t pick up rubber in the in lap, as per usual. 1.5 kilograms or, for our imperial friends, a little over 3 pounds is easily picked up by driving through the marbles.
Failing a weigh in doesn’t automatically mean you’ve cheated, cheating implies intend and since the 1 stopper was George’s call, Merc aren’t to blame.
Toto knew. George wasn’t cheating but watch the end of the race again. Toto knew it was coming. Also they never expected George to be on the pod but Lewis was expected which is why Lewis’s car was good and George’s wasn’t
My heart breaks for Checo it does. I love him. I worry about seeing Danny in that car and Danny having the EXACT same problems as Checo. Potentially a problem with the car? Idk?
What makes me hesitant in feeling happy for Lewis is seeing how TeamLH reacted when George got the well deserved win. George showed an absolute masterclass in tyre management. And yet LITERALLY ALL the comments on posts by Merc on insta, fb, etc. ALL of them were vile, disgusting and toxic. Everytime I get impressed by Hamilton and I start to like him for his ability and racecraft, his Fandom just absolutely ruins it for me. I mean some of the things these people were saying I wouldn't say to my enemies. And they were saying those things about lewis' teammate. That's no way to act.
TeamLH will not be able to cope when Ferrari strategy happens next year.
His fandom is like that because he is like that. He is a toxic activist and surprise surprise he attracts toxic activist fans.
TeamLH gives me an aneurysm.
And I'm a Mercedes fan.
It wasnt a masterclass. He simply took at gamble, stayed out and anyone could have done it since the tyres did not degrade much at all. If u take a gamble you might win or loose but its not really on merit. He did nothing the entire race other than roll the dice since he had nothing to loose. But this time it lost him everything. Its just how gambles work
Yea but you liking someone shouldn't be determined by the reaction of others.......
As far as George and Mercedes goes, an obvious mistake but can understand how this could happen. As a club racer in the US, we roll over the scales after every race. Always a challenge to get it 100% correct so always error of the higher side by a few pounds. I find it easy to image that the one stop strategy coupled with SPA's quick exit post checkered flag (no cool down lap) played a major role. But then again, this is F1 and Mercedes should have not made such a simple and easy to avoid mistake.
The mistake was they didn't plan on one stop.
But I agree with you @LawVS, Piastri IS A FUTURE GOAT🐐
very impressive seeing Piastri improve race after race. He really is showing why Mclaren snapped him up.
George wasn't a loser, Mercedes was
Seeing that speed trap graph and remembering Lance screaming about the bad straight line speed...
So Mercedes allowed Hamilton and Russell to race when they knew Russell had almost six plus seconds on Hamilton...
No Matter what you say, Hamilton was by far the best driver and faster on the conventional strategy.
Russell gambled his way to first knowing it was against his teammate and he lost.
So congratulations to Russell for his bold move but at the end it was LH race not his.
Feel free to disagree with me!!!
Had a awesome weekend hanging out with the VCARB and Rodin boys and girls. Caught up with Liam over a few coffees and I must say he was the most positive I have seen him in a while and he has picked up some new sponsors as well. The Danny Ric side of the garage had a completely different vibe to it and this was even before a wheel was turned on track so I think decisions had been made before the weekend. No matter what happens it seems Danny Ric has a seat next year.
Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel I really do. But given his performance the past season and a half vs Yuki's performance on average..If he gets the 2nd RB seat over Yuki that will be a nearly unforgivable tragedy. RB have absolutely done Yuki dirty and I hope he finds a team willing to buy his contract out before 25. Yuki has more than at least earned a shot at driving on the main team and half a season is more than a reasonable try.
This is the earliest i have been to one of your uploads haha
Sainz officially signs with Williams
You mean Carlos officially Sainz with Williams.
Then that means Logan is set to move to Indy with Prema. Wish Logan the best of luck on the 2nd half on a strong conclusion to his seaaon.
Carlos Sainz just announced he is joining Williams from 2025 onwards
Max saying he may not win another race this year, sounds like Hamilton complaining about his tires.
Perez to Audi would be a great marketing drive.
As soon as Hamilton is doing bad you hear his fans saying "aaaah they're sabotaging him on purpose!", when this happened to George it's not sabotage, they blame him for sheeting. Blows my mind how the brains of these people work. People who think that George cheated don't know how F1 works.
Thats TeamLH cult, they are quite lunatic. In their heads, if GR does better, there is no other option but sabotage against LH.
@sandraisaksson7853 No one talking cheating, but sneaky move from Russell knowing his teammate was winning the race.
That doesn't help Mercedes as a whole!!!
He shouldn't had fought Hamilton when he got to him...
I feel really sorry for George but that's life. We all pay the consequences of our actions
@@qefa070 what was George's sneaky move?
And you say he shouldnt have fought Hamilton? My friend, they are all competitive F1 drivers, they wont simply allow another to pass by unless the teams orders it, and the team allowed them to fight (as long as they didnt put each other at risk, which they didnt)
@@qefa070”A 1-2 doesn’t help Mercedes as a whole.”
Peak DeLulu d-rider logic. Sorry softshell, he didn’t fight Hamilton. He didn’t have to; Hamilton just straight up isn’t as good as his teammate on 230km old tires.🤗
@@danieljardim5245he didn’t even fight him to begin with; he passed him while he was pitting and Hamilton didn’t know how to pass even though George put up minimal defense.
tbf i do think this years red bull is very similar to the brawn gp - dominant at the start then fades away
Why are people talking about Russell's 1-Stop strategy - Russell got DISQUALIFIED; so talking about him is irrelevant.
Was waiting allllll morning for this
Sorry but I don't buy the pickup thing being the reason the car was underweight. Alonso also did the one stop and his car wasn't underweight. If the margins were that fine I'm pretty sure a lot of other drivers would have got DQed too
Not all cars are weighed. It is random. Usually about 20% of the field. Hamilton's car checked after Russel's underweight. Driver's weight is part of car weight. Maybe Russell was sweating too much with Hamilton on his rear diffuser.
Drivers usually lose a couple of kgs during a race. Mercedes should have allowed for all variables. They know the regs, sign a statement saying they comply that is why no appeal. They stuffed up.
@@AJames-jr8kw actually that's where you are wrong. ALL CARS are weighed after a race, same as all drivers are weighed.
@@kityhawk2000 Thanks for the correction. I was under a false impression after reading an article by an authoritative source on the internet about F1 post race scrutineering procedures. Incorrect info on the internet..who would have thought? On checking the published report from last years Austin GP. All finishing cars were weighed (17). The 3 non finishes were not. The other checks , and there were many, were more random. Easy checks were all cars while the more complicated checks less cars. The planks were measure just on 4. The podium finishes plus Charles (6th.).
So thanks for putting me straight on that.
Still seems strange that they exclude some consumables, like fuel, in the final weigh in, but include others like tires. Surely the “weight reduction” of the tires does more harm than good?
George Russell drove the race of his life and got it stolen away from him. Even a day later I feel so bad for him and such a great race is completely marred and unsatisfying. Hamilton drove an excellent drive though and was one of the three drivers who all deserved the win. Both Merc drivers drove out of their mind this race. Those two and Piastri were just in a league of their own. Also, when I saw 'box, box' for Piastri, watching at home I audibly said, "Nooooo" because it really felt like the one stop could work just looking at how little deg in lap times they had to that point. Oscar had even recently just set the fastest lap of the race despite others just pitting.
I have to wonder if RB has adjusted the car to Daniel's liking as of Canada, possibly to save him from being let go, at the expense of Yuki (because he has the contract extension).
No, Daniel has actually helped Yuki. Through his experience he was able to give VCarb (according to team boss) valuable setup feedback which Yuki could not. Ironically Yuki was able to make better use of this earlier.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
I think the F1 gods want to punished George Russell for Perez not performing well recently which could explain Russell all bad luck in the last 3 races.
From what I heard if George pit it was for net position 5th if he attempted the one stop it was a net position of 5th or better. I do think it was a spur of the moment thing but Merc has ALWAYS done the same strategy for both cars when going for a win. I think that is why Lewis was so upset with the team as it looked like they pulled one over on him and gave the win to George. In the end he got the win but I think after he reviews the data and if what Merc was saying was truthful he will be able to understand. Not that he will be happy but will not feel so betrayed.
Bro, Verstappen should be in the Winners, he went from p11 to p4
Stroll complaining about speed on the straights when he went fastest through the speed trap 💀
Would have been hard for Piastri to get past the two Mercedes. Clean air being king, the dirty air effect and the effective DRS train would have hampered his efforts. Lewis was taking 7 tenths out of George and still couldn't get past
WHAAAAA...??? DQ for George??? Thats a real nut cruncher, he drove a BRILLIANT race. I do appreciate how in Mercedes each half of the garage gets to call it's own shots and yesterday's race was a pure example of why that is the way it should be. Poor data on Friday, nada on Saturday so now it's up to the DRIVERS to make the call. And George made the right call, I dont care what anyone says. As for McLaren, Oscar is THE new "iceman". He showed a little vulnerability last week when Lando was baiting him to catch up [as well he should] but post race adbitted he made it harder for the team than he should. Total class, this kid, I hope he sticks around F1 for a long time.
dont know why some Lewis fans act like Jos for Max, slightest thing that doesn't go their way and its sabotage and unfair.
Fair enough..... but if lewis said he wanted the one stop before the race and was denied then comes Russell and suggested it during the race and got it they may have grounds for it I guess.
@@andrehoward5130 right so its either the strategist makes the call based on the data they have or they spell the whole picture of the field to Hamilton and have him pick but then people will complain that they are overwhelming him with info. I wonder when F1 will have HMD for the drivers so the radio isn't jammed up with time gaps and other peoples tires, they can just get a wide picture with a quick glance.
@@Cecil97 yea can only hope.
Not quite sure why you guys immediately call out fans for the team screwing up. Don't remember seeing this last week with Oscar and Lando fans and that was a very similar situation. Mercedes basically did what Mclaren did except they did it accidentally. That's the long and short of it. As for hating on Lewis fans or George fans or Lando fans or Oscar fans I think you are all as dumb as each other but it's pretty easy to see why any driver would not have been happy if they had been in Lewis position similar to how its easy to see why Oscar and Lando weren't happy last race.
Sainz to Williams😭
not Stroll complaining about top speed and getting the highest top speed
Leclerc was so slow because he’s the only one who never had drs the whole race
If yuki gets snubbed for the RB seat I will never always view them as a joke
I doubt it's a shootout, rather than an opportunity to get photos of the drivers in the cars and uniforms. It's more believable that the decision is made rather than a actual shootout for the RBR seat.
I wish you would have realised the Ocon situation before and not just follow other british media's claims. Especially about Viry-Châtillon and Enstone's responsibilities in the poor car. The garbox mount issues for example. These are mounted by the Enstone guys, not the engine suppliers. The engine, as seen as Spa for example, is not as slow as it's rumoured to. The thing it most lacks is reliability.
What happened to George was heartbreaking, he absolutely deserved that win and that's coming from a Lewis fan, George had an amazing race with a bold strategy that he made work wonders, shame what happened to him
What is with Mclaren drivers overshooting their pits??
Two captivating races with bittersweet finishes back to back… we are so back!
George broke the rules. Consequences. This has happened to Lewis, Charles and other racers in the past; where were the excuses then? Let's roll with it. Thems the brakes, and there should be no whining. It's about the rules! Piastri and Ricardo are aces!
I hope Lando gets some time to grieve and recoup and come back and smash a 1-2 for McLaren at the Dutch GP
I was at this GP (my home GP and my very first one ever!) and I haven't watched the race back on TV, so my viewpoint may be skewed and/or limited. But I'm not sure the criticism of Lando w.r.t. being unable to pass Max wasn't entirely fair given Max's new engine. The most important overtaking spots at Spa are just after the two long straights/high speed sections. Of course he put himself into this position with his turn 1 mistake (and this is something he needs to address, he seems to suffer from either too much or too little adrenaline at the start). But I don't think it's too surprising that Max was able to defend against him with the new engine. What did surprise me was the McLaren pitstop strategy, which you rightly pointed out as well. They need to get a handle on this, soon, if they want to be true contenders.
To add to your point about Oscar's tyre management skills, it's time for Mclaren to be ruthless and uncompromising and as I see it, only Oscar seems to have got the memo for that! After the summer break, I see a realaxed Oscar Piastri having a surge of good form and results. I think Ricciardo is gonna take the Red Bull seat after Mexico. Perez would likely decline to drive the VCARB so Lawson will get that seat.
I'm genuinely gutted for Russell. He's shown in the past that he's pretty good at taking the strategy into his hands and making it work for him, he did that in spades at Spa and he didn't choke under the pressure when defending from Hamilton. I don't understand the people claiming George was cheating though when it was a Mercedes cock-up! It's not like George decided himself to run his car under weight while twirling a fake moustache!
Is it just me too or did Toto Wolff not look particularly happy after the chequered flag? I thought he would have been a bit more animated that both his cars crossed the line 1-2, his reaction seemed a bit odd to me.
My favourite track in the season! And one of the best drives for 1st I've seen in years! How quickly that after race buzz you get turned to a bitter taste in my mouth.
George was 100% in the winners here; it's mercedes that's the loser. George had the foresight to brave the 1 stop, he drove a smart race and then managed to hold off Lewis Hamilton for over 4 laps with far fresher tires. How can he be a loser? My jaw was on the groud, it was a world-class drive. I'm truly gutted for the end result, he earned every bit of that win.
Despite obviously being devastated for George (He's one of my favourite drivers) a genuine question and pinch for thought here.
Why does the FIA weigh cars with tires on? I mean that makes little, to no sense to me. Because that is not really the weight of the car when it's racing. Picking up the marbles on the cooldown lap is essentially something that the teams do to prevent from being caught 'cheating'. But that happens like every single Grand Prix and every single team is doing it. Despite this it's also bound to be inconsistent at times imo. Maybe some tires pick up fewer marbles than others for some reason. Why don't they just take off the tires and weigh the actual car?
Man, play the pit strategy, run a nearly perfect race, only to get DQ'd, thats brutal!
From Winner to Loser in a matter of hours, you got to feel for Russell
There was definitely something else, because none of the drivers could go round and collect marbles and no one else was underweight that bad. Possible from the changes made to his car on Friday??
I felt so bad for George waking up to see he was disqualified but it did help Ocon get 9th
In the losers column: The race itself.
EDIT: Checo's last race....That aged well.
I follow F1, but as a casual viewer and recent races have increased my interest. What does the ground force era refer to?
My thoughts:
Gutted for George. I think about the Oscar and tire management actually might still be an issue because he's doing well when there's multiple stop races.
And also his surprise when he learned George pulled that one-pit stop strat tells us that Oscar admits he cannot pull it off and probably I wouldnt say McLaren was being conservative. But in the case of Norris, they could've probably considered it. I am an OP fan but thought MCL strat team couldve helped Lando witha one pit stop strat.
I am not at all a fan of George - I've often called out his whiney and nagging behaviour on the radio. Or just even his entitlement to race victories since joining Mercedes. However, this was so sad to see! We only get treated a few times a year when the driver changes the strategy on the spot and gets a victory.
Your explanation of having changed parts sounds possible.
But ... correct me if I'm wrong: They weighed the car after the race and then discovered there was some fuel still in there. Only after that fuel was also extracted, the car was too light. If this is true, Mercedes should be investigated for tampering with evidence. This is why parc ferme exists and why drivers aren't allowed to touch other cars.
As for Perez - he needs to go. He's been a good driver, a good defender, and played an absolute critical role in some races. However, we cannot deny how bad his other races were. In 2022 he was angry at Max for not helping him at Interlagos - but that was his own fault for underperforming to the point that Hamilton got 2nd. In 2023 he even barely made 2nd place! His crashes also play a part here. He had 4 crashes this year already.
The mistake is listening to Lewis fans in the first place and not actively dismissing what they say. The second mistake is giving credence to anything Lewis says when he's not happy with the result after the race. He moans and runs his mouth at his team like he's a schoolgirl. None of what Lewis said was correct. He reminds me of Lando in a lot of ways when it comes to strategy, except Lando is honest and does not needlessly cast aspersions against his team.
1.5kg sure must have helped reduce tire wear more than folks think
What I don't understand is: If the tire wear was such that it accounted for 1.5kg of weight discrepancy (so let's assume the tires actually lost more than 1.5kg of weight assuming the team would have had a bit of a buffer to the weight limit), how did George then have the grip to keep Lewis from passing for 2-3 laps when Lewis was like 0.7 seconds a lap faster to that point? Were the hard tires just goated that day? Even if you want to say George's care was lighter the whole race (not from tire wear) the fact remains that Lewis was way faster then him, until he caught up
I think the story will be the GR garage lost track of all the changes they were making to car specification (wings/floors/bodywork etc) and an error of 1 to 2 kg crept in to the calculations. GR and LH had different set up, GR was quick in S1+3 so he could out run DRS. LH was quick in S2 but you can't overtake there.
Lewis lost a win a Spa due to a penalty, he inherited this one from a DQ. Balances out in the world of Karma…
Great drives by both George & Lewis.
Considering all the penalties that you can get over pit crew safety, I'm surprised that there is no penalty for what Oscar did.