He's played like 5-6 games as a true freshmen in college football and only a few years as a high school quarterback. Couple that with learning on the job and afraid of making a mistake. Norvell doesn't exactly develop plays to let the quarterback sling it all over the place. And Norvell is not exactly patient with quarterbacks unless it was DJU. Go back a few years where he yanked Travis in the Notre Dame game for a one legged Mckenzie Milton.
Agreed 100%. He looked scared to throw it. That’s not a good combo to have. Glenn would atleast throw the ball, unfortunately to the wrong team to often but at least he would get rid of it. I think play calling was terrible also.
We see other true freshman qb’s move the ball, win games and actually be productive, that’s why we see that he’s not a great talent! Hell he’s below average @@IRatherbeTrashthanADemocrat
It’s amazing how you guys don’t even mention Trever Jackson! You brought up Sperry, a kid that hasn’t done anything for FSU yet, but no mention of a 4 star Elite 11 QB that dropped his commitment to Ole Miss to be a walk on for FSU, and has seen nothing but disrespect from the FSU talking heads. Reminds me of the disrespect y’all were giving Jordan Travis before he showed y’all why he was special!
He didn't drop ole miss, they dropped him because he lost his starting job in HS as a senior. He was a walkon for a reason. Btw he was a 4 star in only one service, 3 star in the others. If he don't like the lack of respect he can step down the road. Hell never play here. 😊
Crazy to me that Norvell was more invested in Luke and he's the one who leaves and brock stays. I would've put EVERYTHING into getting dudes for the trenches. We could have won with brock/trevor and great lineman
Luke isn't stupid. He blundered at times, but showed flashes of excellence. The fact is he knew he and Brock were going to be back ups to Castellanos and he didn't want to waste another year doing that. He wants to clap his hands when the ball is centered, not watch from the sidelines with arms folded for 60 minutes.
I’m a Gator fan but I was actually very impressed with Luke in the game against us. I thought he was going to be an excellent QB for y’all next year. He’s very athletic and can definitely run. I’m just now learning about him leaving.
If he's asking for millions of dollars after what a joke he was on the field last season, I hope he has fun riding the bench or staying in the portal. No team in their right mind would pay a turnover machine millions. Even the NFL wouldn't do that.
With the way CFB has changed, I find it very hard to believe that Luke didn't demand more money to stay and sit. He was talented but very raw and it showed. I don't blame MN on this one
Why do y'all keep saying that about Luke not fitting Gus's system? The last time Gus and MN worked together was at Tulsa where they had a 5k yard passer, 3 1k yard WRs, and a 1k yard RB all in the same season. It was their 1st year together too. They were even better in year 2 so I don't understand how y'all keep thinking that. Him and Hand coached Cam Newton and KJ Jefferson but that was without MN as HC. You have to go back to when MN, Gus, and Coach Hand last worked together and that was Tulsa.
No, it won't. When are y'all going to understand that his buyout doesn't become less than Willie's was until after the '28-'29 season? MN ain't going anywhere for 4-5 years
Heavily rely on transfer portal is a big strategic mistake. Norvell might get lucky again but might as well suffer a season like what we just had. You have to have the ability to develop and retain talents. Be honest, no faith in Norvell. Sorry.
Who says? Are you saying that because he was elevated to a 5 star or because he just went on a visit to Washington? Neither means he's flipping his commitment anytime soon 😂
@@troskeyjAnd that’s a damn shame. The young man was a 4 star Elite 11 athlete, and Mike does what he does best, and that’s not utilize or train up his QBs.
@@tboards71did you not see his regression from his Jr year of HS to his SR year? There's a reason Ole Miss dropped him and moved on. MN did him a favor by offering him a spot on the team. Walk ons education are paid for by NIL now so he's fine
With NIL and the transfer portal, this stuff isn’t rocket science. When a player sees he has value in the market, he’s going to take advantage of it and move on. It’s simple business now, no loyalty or commitment. Spending even 10 minutes talking about this is a total waste of time. 🙂
NIL needs to go the way of the do-do bird. Scholarship+ the same decent stipend to ALL players. College football is dead to me. It has become a joke that no one seems to get that it is damaging the game in a huge way.
FCS football is much better to me for the pure game of football with players who want to be at their school. NIL is the worse thing to happen to college football. And I am so tired of these kids saying they don't get paid when they get a college degree for free. Another bunch of whiny a$$ed babies who have always been told by mommy and daddy that they are so special.
He doesn't even have a shot at starting next year and the money aint right? Can u blame him🤷🏿♂️ PSA Mike hasn't developed his own qb since he's been here! Wtf is the excuses for that?? I'll wait....
Why do y'all keep saying that? The last time Gus and MN worked together was at Tulsa where they had a 5k yard passer, 3 1k yard WRs, and a 1k yard RB all in the same season. It was their 1st year together too. They were even better in year 2 so I don't understand how y'all keep thinking that. He coached Cam Newton and KJ Jefferson but that was just Gus. You have to go back to when MN, Gus, and Coach Hand last worked together and that was Tulsa.
Did y’all hear any rumors that a large sum of $$ was asked for and FSU wouldn’t go there. How can you ask for that much money when you’re 1and1 as a starter. Take a little bit as a true sophomore, have a great year and then come back and ask for a pay day. I hope he realizes that the grass isn’t always greener somewhere else. Ask Tate, Aj and chubba
@@Allstatefitness I mean, didn't Norvell make $10 million for a 2 win season? Just as an act of good faith, Norvell should've given the kid the difference they couldn't agree on out of his own pocket.
@@MichaelHiers-eb4tc I don't anymore man you can only use the excuse of THE KID IS HOLDING THE PROGRAM HOSTAGE and HE WANTED 7 FIGURES to slander and save grace so much. Has Norvell since being at FSU recruited a kid outta highschool and then get drafted yet? I maybe wrong here tho.
@@noletroll 2-10 hahaha. Canes have a winning record vs. noles plus 5 nattys. We bowling at least. 10-2 way better than 2-10. Now, go sit in the corner of your talle trailer.
@@johnshields8992 OK chances are you were not even alive when Miami won their last natty. They have been totally irrelevant this century. Yes, FSU is down this year but you guys have been down this whole century. You guys are always "back" but from where?
Fsu talking heads are hilarious 😂 you all was crying for Luke to get a shot now that he entered the portal you bash him but yet don't see no fault in mike no vell
Honest take: Kromenhoek could have been something special, but he's just as likely to be a bust like a bunch of other busts. I mean DJU is one. It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that ANYONE from a 2-10 team thinks they deserve to be paid millions of dollars. There is no reason anyone would make that up. I hope he has fun either riding the bench or not playing next year, because he is NOT ready for college football. His ratings are meaningless: the product on the field was laughable. I hope he reads this because he is not nearly as great as he thinks he is: 3rd-string QB on a 2-10 team. That's what you're worth, Luke: absolutely NOTHING.
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I know our O line was horrible but Luke had a very high sack rate and he holds on the ball way too long
He's played like 5-6 games as a true freshmen in college football and only a few years as a high school quarterback. Couple that with learning on the job and afraid of making a mistake. Norvell doesn't exactly develop plays to let the quarterback sling it all over the place. And Norvell is not exactly patient with quarterbacks unless it was DJU. Go back a few years where he yanked Travis in the Notre Dame game for a one legged Mckenzie Milton.
Agreed 100%. He looked scared to throw it. That’s not a good combo to have. Glenn would atleast throw the ball, unfortunately to the wrong team to often but at least he would get rid of it. I think play calling was terrible also.
We see other true freshman qb’s move the ball, win games and actually be productive, that’s why we see that he’s not a great talent! Hell he’s below average @@IRatherbeTrashthanADemocrat
It’s amazing how you guys don’t even mention Trever Jackson! You brought up Sperry, a kid that hasn’t done anything for FSU yet, but no mention of a 4 star Elite 11 QB that dropped his commitment to Ole Miss to be a walk on for FSU, and has seen nothing but disrespect from the FSU talking heads. Reminds me of the disrespect y’all were giving Jordan Travis before he showed y’all why he was special!
They don’t like black qbs
💯 Facts
He didn't drop ole miss, they dropped him because he lost his starting job in HS as a senior. He was a walkon for a reason. Btw he was a 4 star in only one service, 3 star in the others. If he don't like the lack of respect he can step down the road. Hell never play here. 😊
@ don’t matter who comes to FSU by the looks of it the ones that are on scholly are trash 😎
They said "scholarship QB" which Trever is not yet...no disrespect.. it's just that walk on very rarely play, let alone start
Crazy to me that Norvell was more invested in Luke and he's the one who leaves and brock stays. I would've put EVERYTHING into getting dudes for the trenches. We could have won with brock/trevor and great lineman
His parents trying to cover up now. You dont see brock leaving and he didnt start the last leg of the season
He was 23% on the fumbles last season.
1mil for 500 yards and 30 sacks see yah.
Luke isn't stupid. He blundered at times, but showed flashes of excellence. The fact is he knew he and Brock were going to be back ups to Castellanos and he didn't want to waste another year doing that. He wants to clap his hands when the ball is centered, not watch from the sidelines with arms folded for 60 minutes.
I’m a Gator fan but I was actually very impressed with Luke in the game against us. I thought he was going to be an excellent QB for y’all next year. He’s very athletic and can definitely run. I’m just now learning about him leaving.
Having said that I know how bad it sucks when a good player you’ve invested in bails on you
I wish Luke much success but guess when you transfer you still gotta compete wherever you decide to go to.
If he's asking for millions of dollars after what a joke he was on the field last season, I hope he has fun riding the bench or staying in the portal. No team in their right mind would pay a turnover machine millions. Even the NFL wouldn't do that.
Where he goes next and how much he gets, if anything will tell you what the truth was. Lukes family is denying the whole money thing.
Luke might be good one day
With the way CFB has changed, I find it very hard to believe that Luke didn't demand more money to stay and sit. He was talented but very raw and it showed. I don't blame MN on this one
This is not a tough loss.... You people are crazy
Why do y'all keep saying that about Luke not fitting Gus's system? The last time Gus and MN worked together was at Tulsa where they had a 5k yard passer, 3 1k yard WRs, and a 1k yard RB all in the same season. It was their 1st year together too. They were even better in year 2 so I don't understand how y'all keep thinking that. Him and Hand coached Cam Newton and KJ Jefferson but that was without MN as HC. You have to go back to when MN, Gus, and Coach Hand last worked together and that was Tulsa.
If Cmn doesn’t win a bunch next year it won’t matter who the qb of the future is because it’ll be a different coaching staff.
No, it won't. When are y'all going to understand that his buyout doesn't become less than Willie's was until after the '28-'29 season? MN ain't going anywhere for 4-5 years
@@brianwilkinson356if he puts in another season like this one, there's no wat FSU keeps him around. No matter what his buyout is.
I agree no one mentions Jackson I think he will be the guy behind Thomas C . And give Jackson a scholarship
Reliance on transfer portal destroying recruiting dynamic.
Heavily rely on transfer portal is a big strategic mistake. Norvell might get lucky again but might as well suffer a season like what we just had. You have to have the ability to develop and retain talents. Be honest, no faith in Norvell. Sorry.
The hell with Luke! Dude has been invested and Mike norvell relied on that and he leaves at first little sight of struggle. Fuck
Other programs start freshmen QBs
Dang, and the 26 QB bout to decommit too! This is terrible.
Who says? Are you saying that because he was elevated to a 5 star or because he just went on a visit to Washington? Neither means he's flipping his commitment anytime soon 😂
FSU can't seem to coach up athletes at any position
You sound dumb
Jordan Travis and Johnny Wilson say hello and that's just 2 off the top
Don't forget Trevor Jackson
He’s not on scholarship
@@troskeyjAnd that’s a damn shame. The young man was a 4 star Elite 11 athlete, and Mike does what he does best, and that’s not utilize or train up his QBs.
*Trever
@@tboards71did you not see his regression from his Jr year of HS to his SR year? There's a reason Ole Miss dropped him and moved on. MN did him a favor by offering him a spot on the team. Walk ons education are paid for by NIL now so he's fine
Trever Jackson !
Brother...either someone was crawling on the floor to not be seen on camera or you have a ghost. I seen both doors open but nobody was there 😮
Update...it was a cat lol
With NIL and the transfer portal, this stuff isn’t rocket science. When a player sees he has value in the market, he’s going to take advantage of it and move on. It’s simple business now, no loyalty or commitment. Spending even 10 minutes talking about this is a total waste of time. 🙂
NIL needs to go the way of the do-do bird. Scholarship+ the same decent stipend to ALL players. College football is dead to me. It has become a joke that no one seems to get that it is damaging the game in a huge way.
Did you bring up the dodo bird?
FCS football is much better to me for the pure game of football with players who want to be at their school. NIL is the worse thing to happen to college football. And I am so tired of these kids saying they don't get paid when they get a college degree for free. Another bunch of whiny a$$ed babies who have always been told by mommy and daddy that they are so special.
He doesn't even have a shot at starting next year and the money aint right? Can u blame him🤷🏿♂️ PSA Mike hasn't developed his own qb since he's been here! Wtf is the excuses for that?? I'll wait....
He does if something happens to constellanos.
Bad choices at QB recruiting. He developed jtrav sooooooo
@ JT came in under WT
@BudHenry your absolutely right !!
@brianwilkinson356 but he was on the roster before Mike got there so I'm confused
Unfortunately, Luke doesn’t fit Gus’ system. I hope he lands with a team that fits his skill set. If he does he will flourish.
Why do y'all keep saying that? The last time Gus and MN worked together was at Tulsa where they had a 5k yard passer, 3 1k yard WRs, and a 1k yard RB all in the same season. It was their 1st year together too. They were even better in year 2 so I don't understand how y'all keep thinking that. He coached Cam Newton and KJ Jefferson but that was just Gus. You have to go back to when MN, Gus, and Coach Hand last worked together and that was Tulsa.
His dad is a psycho 😂 have fun in Starkville
Did y’all hear any rumors that a large sum of $$ was asked for and FSU wouldn’t go there. How can you ask for that much money when you’re 1and1 as a starter. Take a little bit as a true sophomore, have a great year and then come back and ask for a pay day. I hope he realizes that the grass isn’t always greener somewhere else. Ask Tate, Aj and chubba
Ask anyone that has transferred from FSU actually. Who has left and thrived at their new school?
@@noletroll Yeahhh, but that is only because there has been such little talent coming in from high school recruiting since Norvell came in.
You ask for that money because without him we wouldn’t have won anything 😂 he earned it .. I feel like we’ve paid people more who were a**
@@Allstatefitness I mean, didn't Norvell make $10 million for a 2 win season? Just as an act of good faith, Norvell should've given the kid the difference they couldn't agree on out of his own pocket.
@@RaisedCane-qn3ts amen brother 😂😂😂😂😂 he could skip a few massages and meals ctfu and pay the kid
Where does the SHE comes into play. Mens game
All of these comments are irrelevant. He got screwed at FSU coaching staff
He isn't the only one.
Along with all of the fans and some fans still defend norvell
@@MichaelHiers-eb4tc I don't anymore man you can only use the excuse of THE KID IS HOLDING THE PROGRAM HOSTAGE and HE WANTED 7 FIGURES to slander and save grace so much. Has Norvell since being at FSU recruited a kid outta highschool and then get drafted yet? I maybe wrong here tho.
@garycorbett2941 the only thing norvell developed was his bank account
Luke will be a BEAST of a QB. You guys couldn't keep a pocket for more then 2 seconds
Grass is greener than 2-10.
Lil boy
How can you cheer for a team that has NEVER won the ACC? Never. 19 seasons and nothing. And wasted Ward's talent this season. Shameful
@@noletroll 21 seasons. lol. Hurrishames are coping with the Pop-Tarts Bowl. It's just as embarrassing as not making a bowl. Pop-Tarts! lol
@@noletroll 2-10 hahaha. Canes have a winning record vs. noles plus 5 nattys. We bowling at least. 10-2 way better than 2-10. Now, go sit in the corner of your talle trailer.
@@johnshields8992 OK chances are you were not even alive when Miami won their last natty. They have been totally irrelevant this century. Yes, FSU is down this year but you guys have been down this whole century. You guys are always "back" but from where?
Fsu talking heads are hilarious 😂 you all was crying for Luke to get a shot now that he entered the portal you bash him but yet don't see no fault in mike no vell
@@jayd7531 Norvell has been EXPOSED.
Fsu is a mess
Honest take: Kromenhoek could have been something special, but he's just as likely to be a bust like a bunch of other busts. I mean DJU is one. It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that ANYONE from a 2-10 team thinks they deserve to be paid millions of dollars. There is no reason anyone would make that up. I hope he has fun either riding the bench or not playing next year, because he is NOT ready for college football. His ratings are meaningless: the product on the field was laughable.
I hope he reads this because he is not nearly as great as he thinks he is: 3rd-string QB on a 2-10 team. That's what you're worth, Luke: absolutely NOTHING.
Luke is talented. FSU is going to be sorry seeing him blossom at another school.