No it don't. Both sides are wrong. They have some truth bit both sides are wrong. Maybe later I'll leave 2 separate post and may The Most High YHWH have the ones that need it read it and submit to his Will.
It’s the enemy who highlights color to keep us in division Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I didn't realize I was still in religion when i found out i was a Hebrew Israelite getting baptized following these doctrines. Im still a hebrew by blood but God had to deliver me from the spirit of strife, being judgemental, not to mention so focused on the flesh that I was missing the most important thing which was being lead by the Holy Spirit. All Praise to the Most High for sending Jesus and leaving us with the Holy Spirit. I had to go back and realize that it was the name Jesus whose name I called on one night when a demonic force was trying to bound my hands down. Them hands fled with the quickness when I called on Jesus. I remember the Holy spirit telling me to focus on the inner and not the outter when i was focused on head wraps and fringes. God brought me back to the foundation of the word. And it wasnt until then when i started seeing changes in my life and still is. I am more closer to God now then before. Amen and praise God 🙏 And the book of revelations say that he will have a new name when he comes back. That's stopped me from spending time worrying whether or not I was praying to the right or wrong name. These things take away the true focus which is being lead by God through the Holy spirit
@@LovelyElai Amen sister my testimony is similar when u add something to the gospels to be saved you’ve perverted the gospel. We have to continue to pray for the ones tht can be saved Paul says in 2 Corinthians 3 tht there’s a veil over their eyes. Galatians 3 its like they are under a spell of delusion. Christ is not the main focus but on their works and perfection
@EliyahuJabari coming from that to now being on the outside looking in, I can see clearer. Paul once had scales on his eyes, too, and that's how he was able to see. They seem to not understand that God can change his mind about his decisions, too. I've read 2 scriptures already so far where God himself said he repented for certain decisions he made. Reading the Bible in its entirety will show you God, not just reciting certain scriptures for debates because according to scriptures he told the deciples to teach the gospel to the gentiles because Israel wasn't tryna receive Christ they wanted to stay bound by the law
They’re rude, as one of the Christian brothers was speaking to them to make a point during 27 minutes in, the other two Hebrew isralites was talking amongst themselves and not even taking in what was being said, especially after the two Christian brothers sat their and respectfully listened to what they had to say. The fruits are definitely showing here.
They’re Manifesting sooo hard! And they think being blatantly is disrespectful regardless of what the other person said or did is ok… none of the Hebrew Israelites display the love of Jesus Christ
I agree with this. After listening to a lot of his sermons on this topic I was able to understand it better than I’ve ever understood it from anyone else.
both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans
@@michaelharris8613 it’s really not. Your skin color does not save you, Jesus does. It’s important to you. You idolize the skin color of Jesus over Him, Himself.
@@christopherthomas8542 probably to keep people at war with one another…. People don’t read the Bible and the requirements of walking with Christ. They are focused on a skin color. In the Bible we aren’t even to have an image or symbol that we worship. Exodus 20:4 but people are losing their salvation because they want to focus on something that will not matter when we are called to the father who is of no skin tone but of light.
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children
Most of these so-called Hebrews are lost and demented. I mean talk about psychotic. These camps have been around since the late 1960s; so, what have they done to benefit the black American community? Scream and yell on the corners all day, Steal welfare checks, food stamps, and credit cards from their fake wives, Or how about creating arts and crafts with fake photos of the 12 tribes?
Why are you lying, it's clear that blacks, hispanics and native americans are the target audience, no one said color, If Israelites are lying they shouldn't be allowed in heaven I believe, but why would a liar like you be allowed in heaven?
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I love how that elderly woman came and set the atmosphere straight with Holy Anger I felt her passion she cared about them HI souls. You can see it was pricking them in their hearts
She should not even be on the panel. She served no purpose in my opinion. On top of that she is not permitted to teach men and I'm glad that she did not even try.... lol She was loud and wrong with when she spoke that no one knows what color Christ was. I won't provide the scripture.... however, the Bible tells you this and is true and unchanging. If you believe in Christ, then you believe the books that describe his skin color and hair. True historic artifacts that go all the way back from Christ's day show melanated or brown-skinned drawings of people with curly hair. There are Russian museums that still hold on to historic paintings that show a "black" Christ. In Egypt, many of their true drawings depict "black" people.
@ She wasn’t teaching the context in 1 Timothy 2 is having authority over men like preaching, taking the place of a man’s job she was literally giving her opinion on a debate not giving a whole sermon to a congregation. And her point was valid just because there were paintings of a darker messiah, YOU personally were not there to witness it so even if it is true. Great! All praises The focus shouldn’t be the skin tone but what he done. Because truth be told if he was any other ethnicity would you still accept him as your Lord and Savior? I would cus it’s not about where he was born or who he came through but what he’s done for me
It's interesting that they said they were the only respectful ones ONLY because they weren't interrupting when they were actually the most disrespectful and the rudest the entire time. Also, just because you speak loud doesn't mean what you're saying is true. I urge everyone to read the Word for yourself and ask God to grace you with wisdom and understanding regarding His Word. Don't just listen to someone, read it for yourself.
Well said and exactly. Tazaryach is always that way and I hate when they bring him on these platforms. He is rude, cocky, and loud as if he has to show he’s tough.
I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.
@@titosantiago3694 tito, if you are indeed Israel then you need to humble down and examine what you are saying. Your comments sound like you are on that drug called christianity that has fooled our people into believing the many lies of this kingdom.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 KJVAAE [10] and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Says the Church full of pedophiles and homosexuals. Riiiggghhhhhtttttt ......
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They didn’t defend nothing ! I don’t know any of them personally but THEY LOST they made interpretations the GUY CAP and his brother made the most sense and PROVED IT WITH SCRIPTURE
I was apart of a Hebrew Israelite congregation for 10 years. We started out as 7th day church of God and transitioned. The new knowledge at first was beautiful but then it started become cultish. We stopped entertaining the Holy Spirit and became legalistic. We lost the ability to heal and perform miracles we became very self righteous. I do believe in many of teachings still and try not to participate in pagan holidays and keep the holidays from the scriptures. Many other things I stopped doing. Take the meat and spit out the bone. I believe we should still gather on Shabbat. Even God rested on the 7th day. It’s the one commandment that he explicitly said remember the Shabbat day to keep it holy. What’s wrong with making sure you have a day of rest and fellowship with the brethren’s
There’s nothing wrong with that Sis. We are indeed supposed to keep the Shabbat and the Feast Days of Yah and no indulge in paganism. That’s what it means to live a set apart lifestyle. We gain our salvation through Ha’Mashiach (Christ), and our lifestyle and choices is how we worship Yah and remain set apart.
But the New Testament addresses this as well. And if you read it you'd you'll be surprised what the Lord has said about that. In the end, follow CHRIST
The problem with these Israelites was their character. Their character and behavior automically omitted them and made 75% of what they said sound like blasé blasé. I do believe that the Original Jews are black, but thats only part of the battle. You Israelite brothers need to work on attaining more Godly character, if you do that- your message will be received better.
They cannot display the fruits of the Spirit without the Holy Spirit which comes by faith/repentance in Jesus who is God. They don’t read the Bible the way it’s given, they’re taught what it says and it’s a false teaching. Example Isaiah ch 9:6 literally states Jesus is the everlasting Father
I’m clapping over here! As a Christian who just left bible study, I have no problem sitting a listening to prospective that isn’t my own. They were much worse in the day! Hateful and ignorant. More so angry.
I don’t agree with the approach I grant you that but righteous people are very outspoken and vocal. Jesus was righteous he wasn’t a nice feminized man he was a righteous MERCIFUL savior. He literally yelled/scolded Pharisees and whipped them for teaching false doctrine to the children of Israel. If he was here today he would be doing that in the majority of Christian churches. Many pastors are heretical and teach false doctrine. Having faith in Jesus but disrespecting his 613 commands of old and 1000 of new is not a great way to show your love and faith for the heavenly family. Until you abide by biblical doctrine you are not faithfully loving God.
@ElPatronNetwork i agree. But we are not justified by the law but by faith through christ which means that when we say that christ is our savior, we become a new person with a new character. Christ was a very austere man for sure, but I still don't believe he would have operated the way these brothers did.
The fact that their argument never goes deeper than the skin and body when the word pierces through the division of soul and spirit down to the the thoughts and intentions of a person
both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans
@hardlyinitiated suggestion: get a timer going in order to give equal time to each guest and avoid the perception of being biased towards or against any side.
I don't like timed debates because people can just ramble and not address good points that the other person makes. I think it's much better to do it in the form of a back and forth conversation. That's why Godlogic is my favorite
Yes. The guest speakers go off subject or elaborate so eloquently that they lose the context of the hosts' questions. I thoroughly enjoy the platform of Hardly Initiated. The hosts are brave, well-spoken, and are paving the way. Thank you for sharing your platform with us.
All I see is Israelite men on this show... why do people keep associating being an Israelite with religion? A German man is a German man... an Israelite man is an Israelite man, we aint just BLACK... Israelite is a NATION of people just like Ethiopians are a nation of people. Its not a religion. We just so happened to be the ones spoken of in the Bible... This shouldnt be a discussion... let Christians and Muslims discuss their religions... if you are a black christian you are still an Israelite (a lost one) you just participate in idolatry, false doctrine, pagenism and white supremacy... a lost soul, but still an Israelite...
If your God is in a book your lost just believing that B's that out of the entire world God only coming back for one race nigga is you stupid 😂😂 we all Gods every being on this prison planet is connected to the main source they both feel like they God is in a Bible feels like they God lives in a sky 😂😂 we gotta wake tf up all of this came from the sumarian ppl who made up everything we believe in to this day every religion has stole their knowledge we gotta ditch all religions and focus on ones self just saying
Which means not all black people are Israelites. It's a doctrine of demons. More focused on bloodline than the One who gave his life so that ALL could have relationship with God.
The woman said it right “You got to know God for yourself” cause at the end of the day when you stand in Judgement it will be JUST YOU & no one else. It’s a personal relationship between you & Jesus which connects you to God
Philippians 2:12-13: "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure".
There is no private interpretation to the faith. It’s written. If you don’t believe in his laws and commandments, you lost. Solomon said, it’s the whole duty of the man to keep them.
@@starquasiaguevara596 and that is not an attribute of God. God is love. Every Hebrew Israelite that I’ve listened to do nothing but lie and talk down to others if they don’t agree and a very rude and disrespectful.
Every time the Christian brothers start talking, the Hebrew Israelites began talking to one another. Clearly not listening or giving them simple respect. So tacky.
They really wasn't saying nothing tho,...that term Christianity and trinity are from a Catholic teaching not of God. So they have not a chance to get to the the camp brothers.
Christ never preached about skin colour when he first started his ministry. The first thing he said was “REPENT! For the KINGDOM of God is near”!!! REPENT = TURN from SIN! Who has sinned? for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” - Romans 3:23 Who has sinned? ALL!!!!!!! So who needs to REPENT in order for us to get into the Kingdom? ALL OF US!!!! Why are we complicating Yeshua’s message? He was a simple guy you know. He didn’t over complicate anything!!!
You’re right but he did preach to only a specific ethnic group of people you do agree to that though and like the brother taz said in the debate why in Obadiah we see the nation of Esau being destroyed completely wether you believe Edomites are here today or not the scripture says what it says Obadiah 1:18 The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken. So do you agree with what the text so with this one scripture your whole ideology of all being saved is out the window
You judge a tree by the fruit that it bears. Anyone who refers to the Bible as “GD book” (1:49:54)lost their credibility in asserting that they are of God. For the sake of argument if this debate was too dense to follow, you need only consider the fruits of the Holy Spirit to know who carried truth. Which side showed love, joy, peace, kindness, self-control? It most certainly was not the Hebrew Israelites.
@@bakingbola your excuse is pathetic. Because they said a word, credibility is lost. Let's go back to some shit you said before that wasn't cool. Now YOU have no credibility since that's your measurement. Be smart not emotional
I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.
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Your doctrine is white supremacy based .. it’s all your masters words.
I don’t portray or focus on Jesus’ race, ethnicity, or nationality when I pray or worship because my connection with Him is about who He is (God) and what He came to do (offer Salvation). Jesus was born as a Jewish man of Middle Eastern ethnicity, fulfilling God’s promises and entering humanity to offer salvation to ALL who put their trust in Him. His nationality and ethnicity are significant in understanding God’s redemptive plan, but what matters most is His commitment of love, mission of redemption, and unity for all people. Let’s focus on His message and purpose rather than details that don’t change His invitation to everyone.
In conclusion, I’m happy that I came back to finish and witness the end of this debate. Last night was a lot, I could feel the tension and anger from the Hebrew Israelites and it was too heavy. I will continue to pray for my brothers. Ty and Ryan are so professional and I am always proud and in full support of Hardly initiated ❤
When Jeremiah told people in the Bible If they continued to sell on the Sabbath he would “ Put hands on them” you don’t think he was angry? There is nothing wrong with having anger . The Bible says we can have anger but not to sin. There are multiple verses in the Bible speaking on other nations going into captivity as Bond women and Bond men. Paul’s writings don’t negate those future prophecies . Isiah 14:1-2 will come true as per God as they are HIS words .
Don't confuse anger with zeal for Christ. Even so, I think that people forget that Christ showed anger when people disobeyed His father and He does in fact get angry! Nonetheless, you just like them are entitled to feel what you do.
25:15 Adam starts talking till 31:00 with zero interruptions. Captain Tzaryach spoke from 31:20 to 35:35 and was interrupted. The moderators gotta do better.
The man named Captain didn’t even show the Christian side the respect of listening. He was literally talking to the people in the room with him while they were talking.
YIKES! I tried to watch in full, but my patience for the emotional outbursts is thin. Dogmatic debates are rarely fruitful, especially when people only listen to respond, rather to understand.
Kudos to my fellow Christians on the panel. Such patience in the face of not just the challenge of our faith and understanding of the bible, but in the face of such disrespect and hostility by the "Hebrew Isrealites". Racism is the wrong starting point for a world view.
What do you mean racism is the wrong starting point? It's because of racism and brainwashing our people on a mass scale to hate everything about ourselves through racism is the main problem. Case in point we and defend love the religion "Christian" religion version of our oppressors.
Yet your ppl started racism. But whatever, TMH is racist too and only has expressed his love and respect for Israel, for He is the God of ISRAEL and NONE ELSE
@@UllysesGordon of course you think Christianity took the win because Christianity came from your people the Europeans, the Greeks bloodline the Catholic Church, which were Romans bloodline Romans so of course you would say that Christianity may religion is not in the Bible, sir
@@UllysesGordon I've never met a Christian that was trying to keep God's laws while staying in that dumpster fire call Christianity, that wasn't miserable. I know your life is miserable Sir, because ignorance is a curse.
No matter what the Christians believe your beloved master is going into bondage. Just as our ancestors built up their kingdom they will build up ours. All praises to The Most High GOD of Israel.
It is so carnal to argue the color of Jesus. He is prob so sad at these futile debates. The HEART of The Father has no color. We are all His creation. Our efforts should be spent on reaching every nation and tongue spreading the gospel!
@@Nickymay This comment embodied the effects of white supremacy. Sis if it's so carnal to argue the color of Christ why is he worldly renown as a white man?
The spirit of anger and pride is so prevalent on those brothers it’s so sad. You can’t be a victim for the rest of your life. Jesus didn’t die on the cross for you to hold onto the past…
2:29:51 Thanks for having me on guys, can't wait to come back again and chop it up with the brothers. I'm a Christian and music producer with a degree in Christian Studies..Always looking to represent the true Christ of the Bible!
@@jameslevitt7313 Christianity teaches that we don't have to keep the laws of God but the Bible says that we have to depart from iniquity. Iniquity is sin and sin is the breaking of God's law. The Christian brothers are lost. 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The Hebrew Israelite representatives were very disrespectful and dismissive to the Christian representatives, the people who submitted questions, and the hosts. Saying shut up, telling others they wasted their money to ask questions, or saying the people who believe not what they believe pretty much ignorant or stupid yet they believe in God. Would Jesus act like this!? NO
I'M SURPRISED THAT MY BREWS DIDN'T BRING OUT THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANITY IS CREDITED BEING CREATED BY CONSTANTINE THE SUN WORSHIPPER THAT ANYONE CAN GOOGLE THIS FACT.
@@18cheyenneraine NO MA'AM GO AND RESEARCH IT CATHOLISM WAS ALREADY IN PRACTICE I SAID CHRISTIANITY SPECIFICALLY WAS FOUNDED BY THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE.
Also, don’t get me started on the symbolism of the emblem of your “organization” with upside down triangles with regular triangles, these are clearly symbols of the occult. These brothers have been deceived and they clearly don’t have the fruits of the Holy Spirit with their burst of anger and hate for that matter. That’s the beautiful thing about The Holy Spirit, it is manifested through us, in the way we speak, in the way we act and in this case, in the way they lack humbleness and are puffed up with pride.
At one point, one of them also threw up the hook 'em horns with his hand briefly. Some old footage from the 90's from another camp showed lightning bolts in their symbolism. Followers of lucy love that one in particular. There's something fishy going on, and I personally suspect boule and prince hall masons behind at least some of these groups.
While I know they would make great points and represent Christ well, I’m not sure I would like to see them in a forum like this. So obvious that folks like the Captains on this live are committed to their ignorance and only interested in verbally abusing their opponents. “Pearls before swine” comes to mind.
As a hebrew israelite I would absolutely not do to My Caucasian brothers, what was done to me? I would not want to pass on that type of hate to other people regardless of what my people went through.
YOUR Caucasian brothers have done NOTHING to you! The slave masters mistreated their slaves. God will judge the slave masters. He will judge the slave too.
What does the Bible say? The hell what you think..... Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
We need to get Dante Fortson, Truthunedited or Gates of Huldah in these debates. I love the passion and zeal however we need to get the knowledge out in a more moderate way and I know the three I named before will deliver.
Get Dr .Ray Hagins on to make it simple and plain. He was a pastor for 30 yrs and has since came into the Truth. He is the founder of the Afrikaan Village here in Georgia
Cap complained so much about being cut off while speaking, but throughout the entire debate him and achad was laughing and snickering...interesting🤔. Also, I think ACHAD thinks if he states his points strong enough he's right😂😂😂
Yeah we did it on mute which is how you give respect we never interupted them period but we were interupted Y'all cry about any excuse... No one answered about white Jesus tho
To the Israelites your repetitive questions were answered. They said over and over they don’t believe that Jesus was white. They said over and over the behaviors you’re mentioning was wrong sinful, behavior done by professing Christians not Christianity it self.
The 5th century mosiacs show Jesus as a middle eastern looking man. However many churches portray Jesus as the local population, ie Jesus looks like an Asian in Asian churches
These religions ain’t nothing but divisiveness at the end of the day.. just understand that God lives within.. everybody praying to different idols, it’s only ONE GOD at the end of the day and that’s the Most High
I haven't even got to the start of the debate and Bandana Joe and Shades Mcgrady already can't shut up! Just geekin and goofin🙄 Broooo when are they not annoying 😩 We don't find identity in our race, our identity is in Christ!
He lied!!! The Christian brother said Isaiah 60 was the Millennial reign of Christ 2:13:45 …. (Which hasn’t happened yet) …. Then he goes to say later, because he knew he was cut, he says Isa 60 already happened??? In Ezra?? 2:23:18 Which one is it Christian Brother?!
They had the right people on there, it does not make a difference who speaks with these Commandment breakers, they will find something wrong with him, these brothers did an excellent job.
@@israel4reel787 I wasn’t discrediting them as I didn’t watch. But I do believe Yah uses Pastor Thibeaux as a “bridge” for heavily indoctrinated Christian minds. Different vessels can reach different people so let those who have ears hear…
When the Christian brothers broke down the definition of Christianity and what they are against. How is there still an argument? They said what you're against we're against, so what's the debate? 🤷♂️
The lord cutting off captains mic so we didn’t have to listen to this nonsense. God the creator of everything desires to have all his children in heaven with him! One thing I can say I respect about the Hebrew Israelites is their unity and their boldness We as western Christians have lost this boldness and unity We can barely agree on scripture. Be unified be bold
This was a good debate. The Hebrew Isrealites were wrong on their stance. They were very disrespectful. Laughing and talking to each other while the Christian Brothers were speaking. How can they say they love Jesus, when they don't even acknowledge or know the reason why He came to earth.. If a person wants to continue to follow the Mosaic law, Christ is not benefit to them. Great job Christian Brothers!!
I just watched this episode. I watched both episodes! I am so proud of both of you Tysean and Ryan for hosting these two episodes because it certainly helped to elevate Christ consciousness! God is using the both of you mightily! I cannot say enough! Keep doing the work! ❤🙏🏽
Ultimately the principles of the Israelite groups are based on regaining our lost identity and educating the American population of Hebrews(black people) on our significance to Almighty and his promises to Abraham's seed. The book of Exodus gives a glimpse of how our ancestors held on to the ways of Egypt. The 40 years in the wilderness need to come to an end. Studying and reading the Bible as if your ancestors wrote it versus reading it with the outer influences of religion(including Christianity) and doctrines gives you a more clear sight of what has been written. There is plenty of truth in the scriptures, we need to study to show ourselves approved.
1:26:59 this argument is saying that if you are born a non-black Israelite then there is no means to salvation. So then salvation is based solely on a race?? What about the cross?
@@Jenrow153 When Yahusa was sacrificed he was specifically for the 12 tribes of Israel(Matthew 15:24) That being said the other nations can be saved if they embrace the truth of who the Messiah is and what he looks like and who the true Israelites are. Because they changed the images to what they respected. That’s why Yahusa will reject them(Matthew 7:22).
I would like to see the Hebrew Israelite vs the Nation of Islam. I found it very challenging to listen to the Hebrew Israelite because they are aggressively critical, insulting and used profane language that wasn't necessary. Watching them interact while others spoke was disrespectful.
Ugh, I just hate that my Christian brothers aren’t able to be honest about the effects of the “whitewashed” version of Christianity. We are JACKED UP as a people because of identity stuff. This inaccurate image of Jesus and inaccurate/unbiblical teachings have deeply impacted the black community. We hate ourselves so much (our image, color, ect) we can’t even fathom being God’s chosen people. This is a very valuable conversation.
What debate were you watching? They said over and over again that the white washing was wrong and was not a proper representation of Christianity. They addressed this multiple times and said that was sinful behavior. 🤔
@@tisha1322right they definitely did! It just shows me that their identity is their color which is just another idol at the end of the day. I mean it’s like what you think Heaven is going to look like! Every nation & every tongue
Acts 11:26 was the first time that apostles got labeled by the Antioch as Christians. Adam was right Christianity is a world view of people who follow Christ.
It says that they were called that just like they call black people n-word. They didn’t call themselves Christians. They were also called n-word in Acts 13:1. It’s not pronounced Niger because that’s the country which is maybe 100yrs old.
I would love to know what the two none Christians think about this? but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you”
That was for the 12 tribes to follow amongst each other. What a fool if you think someone should love someone that abuses them. Then stay in your abusive relationships. Taking the scriptures out of context.
That was deep when he said the other nations will not serve a god that doesnt look like them . I remember going into church as a young boy and seeing the cross with jesus on it and thinking those people are special smh.
It's an example of the fallen condition of humans. Humans want to worship/create God in their own image, which is idolatry. We were made in the image of God not the other way around
Jesus wasn’t white when here on earth. Nor was he black. Isreal is in the Levant. We know what people of that region look like. Olive / darker skin Mediterranean looking people. Jesus would look more Palestinian/Iraqi/Iranian than anything phenotypically “black”.
1:03:21 1/3 of votes agree, wow, makes me think of Zechariah 13:8 “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein” It’s spooky when the Bible prophecy hits you hard.
remember he said they shall come to me on that day and say lord lord, but he shall say away from me ye workers of iniquity I know you not. This is for Christians
Why do you guys always choose the Israelites who don’t necessarily understand the Bible? Most platforms are looking for views by choosing racist Hebrews who twist or don’t understand the book and it makes us look bad as a whole.
"Not all are children of Abraham" is a verse from the Bible, Romans 9:7, which states that not all of Abraham's descendants are considered his children: • Romans 9:7: "And not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but 'Through Isaac shall your offspring be named'" o This verse means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. Here are some other things to consider about this verse: • Being a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob is not enough. One must also be a "descendant" of Christ. Y’all lost BHI
That is absolutely not with that versus saying it's actually saying the opposite of what Christianity teaches the promises goes from Abraham Isaac and Jacob and it's all about the seed and it says it clearly if you're not Isaac Abraham and Jacob you're not of the seed and you're not of the promise
Read down to verse 13. Paul is talking about the lineage leading to Jacob and the rejection of all other children of Abraham and Issac's other son Esau. The children of God are descendants of Jacob according to the promise. Deuteronomy 32 8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
The Hebrew Israelites we're being rude that would turn people off from listening to them. You can still stand firm without getting loud or disrespectful.
Deuteronomy 28 68...Egypt in the bible means House of Bondage. God promised that his people were going to go BACK into Egypt (Bondage) but the 2nd time by ships, with iron chains around their necks. (TRANS-ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE. 400 YEARS OF AFFLICTION AND OPPRESSION.
The crazy part is these so called Christians think that Yahusha is a happy loving caring king,That dont hate and kill...Salute to the Hebrew Israelites and to all the 12 Tribe's Of Israel.
What I'm seeing within those watching is that they're pro belief rather than pro Truth. They're not weighing what's being said void of emotions and their current status
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan how he and Tyshawn remainded in control of THEIR podcast is what I call masculinity 🙌🏾 mmm mmmm mmm they didn’t even address the little jabs just laughed them off 🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🙌🏾🤦🏾♀️😍❤️
Sirach 2:15-17 15 Those who fear the Lord do not disobey his commands; those who love him will live as he wants them to live. 16 Those who fear and love the Lord WILL TRY TO PLEASE HIM AND DEVOTE THEMSELVES TO THE LAW. 17 Those who fear the Lord are always ready to serve him. They humble themselves before him, and say,
As a young black teenager coming out of Christianity and finding out I’m a Israelite a lot of people who believe it’s racist or a false doctrine are only reacting based off emotion and not understanding what the Bible is really saying
I watched the entire debate from beginning to end and not once did those ISUPK use God's name in vain. Why are bearing false witness? Also I believe that those Israelite brothers won and annihilated those two so called Christians or rather shall I say Paulians.
God is deeper than a color. It is not about a race, a group of people, nor is it about a gender its a spiritual relationship strictly about a soul being saved by the blood of Christ .
You shall know them by their fruits! The anger, the pride, it really shows who is following the true Christ. SMH
@@cynthiahoyi3925 nothing is wrong with anger or pride , it depends on how and where it's directed
No it don't. Both sides are wrong. They have some truth bit both sides are wrong. Maybe later I'll leave 2 separate post and may The Most High YHWH have the ones that need it read it and submit to his Will.
@@olandofuller5588nah these cult leaders are wrong period
You know Christ was also angry
Luke 19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man:
@cynthiahoyi3925 so when Christ whipped the money changers out of the temple, was he showing anger and pride?
Pride comes before the fall
Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter
It’s the enemy who highlights color to keep us in division Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Yes
@@coreythomas3633 exactly
@@coreythomas3633your focused on the wrong thing. Let’s focus more on turning away from sin & living a repentant & obedient lifestyle.
I didn't realize I was still in religion when i found out i was a Hebrew Israelite getting baptized following these doctrines. Im still a hebrew by blood but God had to deliver me from the spirit of strife, being judgemental, not to mention so focused on the flesh that I was missing the most important thing which was being lead by the Holy Spirit. All Praise to the Most High for sending Jesus and leaving us with the Holy Spirit. I had to go back and realize that it was the name Jesus whose name I called on one night when a demonic force was trying to bound my hands down. Them hands fled with the quickness when I called on Jesus. I remember the Holy spirit telling me to focus on the inner and not the outter when i was focused on head wraps and fringes. God brought me back to the foundation of the word. And it wasnt until then when i started seeing changes in my life and still is. I am more closer to God now then before. Amen and praise God 🙏
And the book of revelations say that he will have a new name when he comes back. That's stopped me from spending time worrying whether or not I was praying to the right or wrong name. These things take away the true focus which is being lead by God through the Holy spirit
@@LovelyElai Amen sister my testimony is similar when u add something to the gospels to be saved you’ve perverted the gospel. We have to continue to pray for the ones tht can be saved Paul says in 2 Corinthians 3 tht there’s a veil over their eyes. Galatians 3 its like they are under a spell of delusion. Christ is not the main focus but on their works and perfection
You still believe that you are Hebrew.
@EliyahuJabari coming from that to now being on the outside looking in, I can see clearer. Paul once had scales on his eyes, too, and that's how he was able to see. They seem to not understand that God can change his mind about his decisions, too. I've read 2 scriptures already so far where God himself said he repented for certain decisions he made. Reading the Bible in its entirety will show you God, not just reciting certain scriptures for debates because according to scriptures he told the deciples to teach the gospel to the gentiles because Israel wasn't tryna receive Christ they wanted to stay bound by the law
@@user-th8qf5ij4w I am
@@LovelyElai you said a whole lot of nothing, no scripture..smh...John 14:15
They’re rude, as one of the Christian brothers was speaking to them to make a point during 27 minutes in, the other two Hebrew isralites was talking amongst themselves and not even taking in what was being said, especially after the two Christian brothers sat their and respectfully listened to what they had to say.
The fruits are definitely showing here.
Matthew 7;16-20 you can definitely tell the fruit they bear!!! It’s crazy how they acting, GOD have mercy on them.
Yes i noticed it too
They’re Manifesting sooo hard! And they think being blatantly is disrespectful regardless of what the other person said or did is ok… none of the Hebrew Israelites display the love of Jesus Christ
Extremely rude
FACTS!
STEPHEN DARBY is no longer with us but His videos bring balance, clarity and understanding to this subject. Blessings.
I agree with this. After listening to a lot of his sermons on this topic I was able to understand it better than I’ve ever understood it from anyone else.
I wish he was still here cause he wouldn’t been so good for this
Right! I still watch his teachings from time to time
Yesss
It sure does
Before I watched this debate I was a Christian after I watched this debate I’m proud to state that I’m still a Christian.
Well said
both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans
@@DorianGrissom 🤜🤛
Amen 🙌🏾
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If color is not a problem, why would they change him to white?
Who is “they”? lol if it’s not a problem why be concerned about it?
@@chief8976 thats the point , because it is important . Thats why europeans changed his image
@@michaelharris8613 exactly 💯 👏🏽
@@michaelharris8613 it’s really not. Your skin color does not save you, Jesus does. It’s important to you. You idolize the skin color of Jesus over Him, Himself.
@@christopherthomas8542 probably to keep people at war with one another…. People don’t read the Bible and the requirements of walking with Christ. They are focused on a skin color. In the Bible we aren’t even to have an image or symbol that we worship. Exodus 20:4 but people are losing their salvation because they want to focus on something that will not matter when we are called to the father who is of no skin tone but of light.
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children
I'm not part of your people, my Ancestors are Africans, Hamites.
My people have nothing to do with you.
90% of the comments are lost af…APTTMH SHALOM
Smh Most of us will be lost at the end brother unfortunately..
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Most of these so-called Hebrews are lost and demented. I mean talk about psychotic. These camps have been around since the late 1960s; so, what have they done to benefit the black American community? Scream and yell on the corners all day, Steal welfare checks, food stamps, and credit cards from their fake wives, Or how about creating arts and crafts with fake photos of the 12 tribes?
Fasho
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Willing to be separated from Jesus for eternity because you worship skin color instead of the God of human race is crazy to me
Very crazy. All we can do is pray for them.
Separated from Jesus? How?
It's crazy to you because you don't read your Bible. In Deuteronomy 32:8, God separated the sons of Adam.
Why are you lying, it's clear that blacks, hispanics and native americans are the target audience, no one said color, If Israelites are lying they shouldn't be allowed in heaven I believe, but why would a liar like you be allowed in heaven?
Praise God for the “grafting in” of anyone who seeks Him. Love your neighbor even if they’re not the same color as you!
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I do know Maria L. Clare, I also have even become successful....
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I love how that elderly woman came and set the atmosphere straight with Holy Anger I felt her passion she cared about them HI souls. You can see it was pricking them in their hearts
What's the time stamp for that? I'm not losing 3hrs of my life to these idiots 😂
She should not even be on the panel. She served no purpose in my opinion.
On top of that she is not permitted to teach men and I'm glad that she did not even try.... lol
She was loud and wrong with when she spoke that no one knows what color Christ was. I won't provide the scripture.... however, the Bible tells you this and is true and unchanging. If you believe in Christ, then you believe the books that describe his skin color and hair. True historic artifacts that go all the way back from Christ's day show melanated or brown-skinned drawings of people with curly hair. There are Russian museums that still hold on to historic paintings that show a "black" Christ.
In Egypt, many of their true drawings depict "black" people.
@ She wasn’t teaching the context in 1 Timothy 2 is having authority over men like preaching, taking the place of a man’s job she was literally giving her opinion on a debate not giving a whole sermon to a congregation. And her point was valid just because there were paintings of a darker messiah, YOU personally were not there to witness it so even if it is true. Great! All praises The focus shouldn’t be the skin tone but what he done. Because truth be told if he was any other ethnicity would you still accept him as your Lord and Savior? I would cus it’s not about where he was born or who he came through but what he’s done for me
I didn't see that
@@shaylaahava6413you’re possessed
It's interesting that they said they were the only respectful ones ONLY because they weren't interrupting when they were actually the most disrespectful and the rudest the entire time. Also, just because you speak loud doesn't mean what you're saying is true.
I urge everyone to read the Word for yourself and ask God to grace you with wisdom and understanding regarding His Word. Don't just listen to someone, read it for yourself.
Well said and exactly. Tazaryach is always that way and I hate when they bring him on these platforms. He is rude, cocky, and loud as if he has to show he’s tough.
I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.
@baquegood1ifyEverything you said about our Brothers was false, and you will pay for your Slander.
@@decora2867 but was they the 1st
@israel4reel787 lol ok unlearned one
Shouting and yelling doesn't make lies truth.
@@titosantiago3694 tito, if you are indeed Israel then you need to humble down and examine what you are saying. Your comments sound like you are on that drug called christianity that has fooled our people into believing the many lies of this kingdom.
Not even a little bit
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 KJVAAE
[10] and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Says the Church full of pedophiles and homosexuals. Riiiggghhhhhtttttt ......
@@danishiacolbert6531 what was the lie told. You Christians HATE GOD. U are remedial and sottish
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Great work Adam and BK. Thanks for defending the faith
Amen Amen
They didn’t defend nothing ! I don’t know any of them personally but THEY LOST they made interpretations the GUY CAP and his brother made the most sense and PROVED IT WITH SCRIPTURE
@@KweenJanaeyour opinion. I disagree
@@KweenJanae all that ink seeping into your brain 😂
They love the white man they different prove nun at all😂
I was apart of a Hebrew Israelite congregation for 10 years. We started out as 7th day church of God and transitioned. The new knowledge at first was beautiful but then it started become cultish. We stopped entertaining the Holy Spirit and became legalistic.
We lost the ability to heal and perform miracles we became very self righteous.
I do believe in many of teachings still and try not to participate in pagan holidays and keep the holidays from the scriptures. Many other things I stopped doing. Take the meat and spit out the bone.
I believe we should still gather on Shabbat. Even God rested on the 7th day. It’s the one commandment that he explicitly said remember the Shabbat day to keep it holy. What’s wrong with making sure you have a day of rest and fellowship with the brethren’s
There’s nothing wrong with that Sis. We are indeed supposed to keep the Shabbat and the Feast Days of Yah and no indulge in paganism. That’s what it means to live a set apart lifestyle. We gain our salvation through Ha’Mashiach (Christ), and our lifestyle and choices is how we worship Yah and remain set apart.
@ amen sister!!!
Amen🙏🏽
But the New Testament addresses this as well. And if you read it you'd you'll be surprised what the Lord has said about that. In the end, follow CHRIST
Amen
Why are the moderaters cutting them off. I’ve watched so many episodes of this podcast and I have never seen them cut anyone off. Ever
@@giovannathreet4252 lol they literally have talked the most
Religion and knowledge without conversion and deliverance of heart is dangerous!
What scriptures say that?
The problem with these Israelites was their character. Their character and behavior automically omitted them and made 75% of what they said sound like blasé blasé. I do believe that the Original Jews are black, but thats only part of the battle. You Israelite brothers need to work on attaining more Godly character, if you do that- your message will be received better.
They cannot display the fruits of the Spirit without the Holy Spirit which comes by faith/repentance in Jesus who is God. They don’t read the Bible the way it’s given, they’re taught what it says and it’s a false teaching. Example Isaiah ch 9:6 literally states Jesus is the everlasting Father
@avereysmith640 WEAK!!
I’m clapping over here!
As a Christian who just left bible study, I have no problem sitting a listening to prospective that isn’t my own.
They were much worse in the day! Hateful and ignorant. More so angry.
I don’t agree with the approach I grant you that but righteous people are very outspoken and vocal. Jesus was righteous he wasn’t a nice feminized man he was a righteous MERCIFUL savior. He literally yelled/scolded Pharisees and whipped them for teaching false doctrine to the children of Israel. If he was here today he would be doing that in the majority of Christian churches. Many pastors are heretical and teach false doctrine. Having faith in Jesus but disrespecting his 613 commands of old and 1000 of new is not a great way to show your love and faith for the heavenly family. Until you abide by biblical doctrine you are not faithfully loving God.
@ElPatronNetwork i agree. But we are not justified by the law but by faith through christ which means that when we say that christ is our savior, we become a new person with a new character. Christ was a very austere man for sure, but I still don't believe he would have operated the way these brothers did.
The fact that their argument never goes deeper than the skin and body when the word pierces through the division of soul and spirit down to the the thoughts and intentions of a person
That Part!! We using word! It’s giving my identity is my skin color instead of our identity found in Christ
Who doesn't know the words of Christ? Atheist know the words of Christ. Everyone don't know the descendants of his people
Fake. Israelites poorly base their arguments on feelings not facts 😢
both were written by the same white people. Africans were MA'AT before any of this. 42 Commandments and both stole 10 of them. James Louis beheaded 250 thousand Africans took their land and gave it to the Christian Church and they made him a saint... St. Louis murderer of Africans
@@1nkredibleHunk very well said
@hardlyinitiated suggestion: get a timer going in order to give equal time to each guest and avoid the perception of being biased towards or against any side.
very true, great suggestion
I don't like timed debates because people can just ramble and not address good points that the other person makes. I think it's much better to do it in the form of a back and forth conversation. That's why Godlogic is my favorite
Yes. The guest speakers go off subject or elaborate so eloquently that they lose the context of the hosts' questions. I thoroughly enjoy the platform of Hardly Initiated. The hosts are brave, well-spoken, and are paving the way. Thank you for sharing your platform with us.
@joanngilmore7196 Do you watch Godlogic?
Or at least put the time for length of time to let each speak uninterrupted not necessarily for time limits.
As a Christian myself you guys absolutely represented christ
@@Christians_canhavefun2 yeah....white christ.
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All I see is Israelite men on this show... why do people keep associating being an Israelite with religion? A German man is a German man... an Israelite man is an Israelite man, we aint just BLACK... Israelite is a NATION of people just like Ethiopians are a nation of people. Its not a religion. We just so happened to be the ones spoken of in the Bible... This shouldnt be a discussion... let Christians and Muslims discuss their religions... if you are a black christian you are still an Israelite (a lost one) you just participate in idolatry, false doctrine, pagenism and white supremacy... a lost soul, but still an Israelite...
Facts sister 💯💯💯🙏🏾
If your God is in a book your lost just believing that B's that out of the entire world God only coming back for one race nigga is you stupid 😂😂 we all Gods every being on this prison planet is connected to the main source they both feel like they God is in a Bible feels like they God lives in a sky 😂😂 we gotta wake tf up all of this came from the sumarian ppl who made up everything we believe in to this day every religion has stole their knowledge we gotta ditch all religions and focus on ones self just saying
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You can’t prove that
Which means not all black people are Israelites. It's a doctrine of demons. More focused on bloodline than the One who gave his life so that ALL could have relationship with God.
They are so adamant on people correctly pronouncing their names, they don’t remember anyone else’s names🤣
Not true. Shut up.
Right...BK is literally 2 letters.
The woman said it right “You got to know God for yourself” cause at the end of the day when you stand in Judgement it will be JUST YOU & no one else. It’s a personal relationship between you & Jesus which connects you to God
@@CrayDreZ What scripture says "personal relationship"?
Philippians 2:12-13: "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure".
There is no private interpretation to the faith. It’s written. If you don’t believe in his laws and commandments, you lost. Solomon said, it’s the whole duty of the man to keep them.
"Whoever goes against the gospels can catch it." I like that
@@starquasiaguevara596 ANYONE can get the smoke. Classic BK.
There's only one gospel, Isaiah 61 and Christians don't follow or preach that at all
@@starquasiaguevara596 there's only one gospel
@@starquasiaguevara596 and that is not an attribute of God. God is love. Every Hebrew Israelite that I’ve listened to do nothing but lie and talk down to others if they don’t agree and a very rude and disrespectful.
That sounded weak af coming from that big back Teletubby
I AM HOLLERING! Dude thought he was gonna intimidate Ryan and Ty! Ty called him a victim 😂😂😂😂😂
@@themiaparis u can tell they got a lot of pass trauma built up in them. It wasn’t even tht they was passionate just angry
Yea...ha...funny
Every time the Christian brothers start talking, the Hebrew Israelites began talking to one another. Clearly not listening or giving them simple respect. So tacky.
They really wasn't saying nothing tho,...that term Christianity and trinity are from a Catholic teaching not of God. So they have not a chance to get to the the camp brothers.
@@mr.renaissancemtswhere do you think Christianity came from? Christianity is just a branch off of Catholicism that’s simple knowledge
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Everything about this cult is tacky!😂
@@lilspongie44 ACTS 24 : 14
Christ never preached about skin colour when he first started his ministry. The first thing he said was “REPENT! For the KINGDOM of God is near”!!!
REPENT = TURN from SIN!
Who has sinned?
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” - Romans 3:23
Who has sinned? ALL!!!!!!!
So who needs to REPENT in order for us to get into the Kingdom?
ALL OF US!!!!
Why are we complicating Yeshua’s message? He was a simple guy you know. He didn’t over complicate anything!!!
@Crownedingloryhair_ it's not about skin color but he still only ever preached to a particular and specific ppl group
@@tzyyon exactly. Everyone who’s sinned & fallen short of the glory of God! Which is EVERYBODY!!!
@@tzyyonexactly, and those specific people are people who have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Which is EVERYBODY!
You're right! Whether or not you are an Israelite you better make Teshuvah.
You’re right but he did preach to only a specific ethnic group of people you do agree to that though and like the brother taz said in the debate why in Obadiah we see the nation of Esau being destroyed completely wether you believe Edomites are here today or not the scripture says what it says Obadiah 1:18 The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau, for the LORD has spoken. So do you agree with what the text so with this one scripture your whole ideology of all being saved is out the window
You judge a tree by the fruit that it bears. Anyone who refers to the Bible as “GD book” (1:49:54)lost their credibility in asserting that they are of God. For the sake of argument if this debate was too dense to follow, you need only consider the fruits of the Holy Spirit to know who carried truth. Which side showed love, joy, peace, kindness, self-control? It most certainly was not the Hebrew Israelites.
@@bakingbola your excuse is pathetic. Because they said a word, credibility is lost. Let's go back to some shit you said before that wasn't cool. Now YOU have no credibility since that's your measurement. Be smart not emotional
SPEAK!!
I can assure you that the doctrine of IUPK is false doctrine. I am a Hebrew and do not at all agree with this camp. It's sad that these bad apples make the set apart look bad. I wish HI had chosen Ron Dalton or William Davis Ministry in this dialogue representing the Children of Israel. Camps are so overrated.
Your doctrine is white supremacy based .. it’s all your masters words.
Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter
Nice build, all praises to Yahawashi for the love that was displayed and the scriptures that came out.
The arrogance and pride immediately speaks volumes.
Why portray him as white if skin color dont matter
I don’t portray or focus on Jesus’ race, ethnicity, or nationality when I pray or worship because my connection with Him is about who He is (God) and what He came to do (offer Salvation). Jesus was born as a Jewish man of Middle Eastern ethnicity, fulfilling God’s promises and entering humanity to offer salvation to ALL who put their trust in Him. His nationality and ethnicity are significant in understanding God’s redemptive plan, but what matters most is His commitment of love, mission of redemption, and unity for all people. Let’s focus on His message and purpose rather than details that don’t change His invitation to everyone.
@there was no "middle eastern ethnicity in Jesus day"!
Jesus us a middle eastern caucasoid man. Many blk cults try to delete the middle east ppl and their history
@@Maryamblessed you may be right ….I don’t claim to know fully because I don’t major in the minor.
In conclusion, I’m happy that I came back to finish and witness the end of this debate. Last night was a lot, I could feel the tension and anger from the Hebrew Israelites and it was too heavy. I will continue to pray for my brothers. Ty and Ryan are so professional and I am always proud and in full support of Hardly
initiated ❤
@@natashagresham Indeed 🙏🏽
Seriously cuz the first time tazariack went on his rant he would’ve been set straight cuz that one went on too long
When Jeremiah told people in the Bible If they continued to sell on the Sabbath he would “ Put hands on them” you don’t think he was angry? There is nothing wrong with having anger . The Bible says we can have anger but not to sin. There are multiple verses in the Bible speaking on other nations going into captivity as Bond women and Bond men. Paul’s writings don’t negate those future prophecies . Isiah 14:1-2 will come true as per God as they are HIS words .
Don't confuse anger with zeal for Christ.
Even so, I think that people forget that Christ showed anger when people disobeyed His father and He does in fact get angry!
Nonetheless, you just like them are entitled to feel what you do.
25:15 Adam starts talking till 31:00 with zero interruptions. Captain Tzaryach spoke from 31:20 to 35:35 and was interrupted. The moderators gotta do better.
The man named Captain didn’t even show the Christian side the respect of listening. He was literally talking to the people in the room with him while they were talking.
That’s because Hebrew Israelites are notoriously RUDE AND BELLIGERENT!
This! So RUDE! And UNCOUTH!! BOTH OF THEM!! One doesn’t even have decency to remove sun glasses , while speaking to others. Uncultured!!
@Eternity244 very disrespectful
That’s how captain is
Because it’s like hearing the same old song
YIKES! I tried to watch in full, but my patience for the emotional outbursts is thin. Dogmatic debates are rarely fruitful, especially when people only listen to respond, rather to understand.
The two Israelites are so rude! Calling names, assuming things about BK & Adam is just ridiculous.
Right! You will know them by their fruits
God said the Israelites are a people above all people!!!
Deuteronomy 7:6
You got God pager number or something?
The ISUPK brothers were just wrong and STRONG! And when their points were refuted biblically, they just ignored it
Then the Bible is wrong. They spoke none of their own words but straight out the book. Domdom....
@domdomdiddy3036
Youy absolutely Wrong
Joel 2 verse 27
Prove it Prove it
One thing about us as Israelites we use the Bible to prove our points ..book, chapter, and verse...not our feelings!
@ Big facts!
Kudos to my fellow Christians on the panel. Such patience in the face of not just the challenge of our faith and understanding of the bible, but in the face of such disrespect and hostility by the "Hebrew Isrealites". Racism is the wrong starting point for a world view.
What do you mean racism is the wrong starting point? It's because of racism and brainwashing our people on a mass scale to hate everything about ourselves through racism is the main problem. Case in point we and defend love the religion "Christian" religion version of our oppressors.
I just watched all 7 hours of this. So challenging, as a not black person, but as a Christian, I think ChristianiTEA takes the win.
Yet your ppl started racism. But whatever, TMH is racist too and only has expressed his love and respect for Israel, for He is the God of ISRAEL and NONE ELSE
@@UllysesGordon of course you think Christianity took the win because Christianity came from your people the Europeans, the Greeks bloodline the Catholic Church, which were Romans bloodline Romans so of course you would say that Christianity may religion is not in the Bible, sir
@@UllysesGordon I've never met a Christian that was trying to keep God's laws while staying in that dumpster fire call Christianity, that wasn't miserable. I know your life is miserable Sir, because ignorance is a curse.
We're saved by GRACE, not by RACE.
No matter what the Christians believe your beloved master is going into bondage. Just as our ancestors built up their kingdom they will build up ours. All praises to The Most High GOD of Israel.
Amen 🙏🏾
Facts!
It is so carnal to argue the color of Jesus. He is prob so sad at these futile debates. The HEART of The Father has no color. We are all His creation. Our efforts should be spent on reaching every nation and tongue spreading the gospel!
Shalom aleichem! What is the Good News?
Literally I’m disappointed in this episode content
This comment embodied the effects of white supremacy. Sis if it's so carnal to argue the color of Christ why is he worldly renown as a white man?
@LifinwithLiyah Why, beloved?
@@Nickymay This comment embodied the effects of white supremacy. Sis if it's so carnal to argue the color of Christ why is he worldly renown as a white man?
The spirit of anger and pride is so prevalent on those brothers it’s so sad. You can’t be a victim for the rest of your life. Jesus didn’t die on the cross for you to hold onto the past…
2:29:51 Thanks for having me on guys, can't wait to come back again and chop it up with the brothers. I'm a Christian and music producer with a degree in Christian Studies..Always looking to represent the true Christ of the Bible!
Acts 13:1-4..obviously black men😁 APTTMH
I listened to the whole debate … Big up Adam and BK … let us all pray for the lost HB brothers 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@jameslevitt7313 Luke 12:51
“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:”
@@jameslevitt7313 Christianity teaches that we don't have to keep the laws of God but the Bible says that we have to depart from iniquity. Iniquity is sin and sin is the breaking of God's law. The Christian brothers are lost.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
The Hebrew Israelite representatives were very disrespectful and dismissive to the Christian representatives, the people who submitted questions, and the hosts. Saying shut up, telling others they wasted their money to ask questions, or saying the people who believe not what they believe pretty much ignorant or stupid yet they believe in God. Would Jesus act like this!? NO
Exactly!!! They are used to dominating conversations with intimidation techniques & they stick together to feed off each other in the worse ways.
To eliminate confusion a believer of CHRIST = A Christian (a believer in Jesus CHRIST). Thank you hardly initiated for this!!
This is sad. Hermeneutical understanding is so important. These guys are so lost and proud. 😢
I'M SURPRISED THAT MY BREWS DIDN'T BRING OUT THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANITY IS CREDITED BEING CREATED BY CONSTANTINE THE SUN WORSHIPPER THAT ANYONE CAN GOOGLE THIS FACT.
@@ryandickerson4267 these guys believe in the new testament
Pretty sure that’s Catholicism, they have other pagan practices.
Constantine legalized it
@anthonytimms2336 EXACTLY 💯
@@18cheyenneraine NO MA'AM GO AND RESEARCH IT CATHOLISM WAS ALREADY IN PRACTICE I SAID CHRISTIANITY SPECIFICALLY WAS FOUNDED BY THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE.
Also, don’t get me started on the symbolism of the emblem of your “organization” with upside down triangles with regular triangles, these are clearly symbols of the occult. These brothers have been deceived and they clearly don’t have the fruits of the Holy Spirit with their burst of anger and hate for that matter. That’s the beautiful thing about The Holy Spirit, it is manifested through us, in the way we speak, in the way we act and in this case, in the way they lack humbleness and are puffed up with pride.
This! I was thinking similarly.
At one point, one of them also threw up the hook 'em horns with his hand briefly. Some old footage from the 90's from another camp showed lightning bolts in their symbolism. Followers of lucy love that one in particular.
There's something fishy going on, and I personally suspect boule and prince hall masons behind at least some of these groups.
EXACTLY!!!
Exactly. Their character and fruit say it all. They have hardened their own hearts. They truly grieve my spirit.
@@Peterpalooza facts
Y’all need to get Preston and Eric Mason on this Topic for sure💯
That’s all I kept thinking
Why? They're not going to do anything but get demolished as well
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Facts
While I know they would make great points and represent Christ well, I’m not sure I would like to see them in a forum like this. So obvious that folks like the Captains on this live are committed to their ignorance and only interested in verbally abusing their opponents. “Pearls before swine” comes to mind.
As a hebrew israelite I would absolutely not do to My Caucasian brothers, what was done to me? I would not want to pass on that type of hate to other people regardless of what my people went through.
YOUR Caucasian brothers have done NOTHING to you! The slave masters mistreated their slaves. God will judge the slave masters. He will judge the slave too.
What does the Bible say? The hell what you think.....
Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Free smoke!!!! C'mon Bk. Like that Holy Ghost boldness💪🏿
We need to get Dante Fortson, Truthunedited or Gates of Huldah in these debates. I love the passion and zeal however we need to get the knowledge out in a more moderate way and I know the three I named before will deliver.
Truth Unedited is a deeply confused man
Dr. Kenneth Howard too. He and his wife founded Great Awakening International.
@@dionnej1404yes! Dr. Kenneth Howard and Dr Vaughn Parker would both be amazing for this debate
YESSUSHHHH
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Get Dr .Ray Hagins on to make it simple and plain. He was a pastor for 30 yrs and has since came into the Truth. He is the founder of the Afrikaan Village here in Georgia
Cap complained so much about being cut off while speaking, but throughout the entire debate him and achad was laughing and snickering...interesting🤔. Also, I think ACHAD thinks if he states his points strong enough he's right😂😂😂
@Gamerseter SO You agree with Capt. No Decorum exceptionally soft men
@jamestaylor5007 NO..Wouldn't call any of these men soft. However, when it comes to being disrespectful, they were the whole time...
Agree! By their fruit, you will know them.
Yeah we did it on mute which is how you give respect we never interupted them period but we were interupted
Y'all cry about any excuse... No one answered about white Jesus tho
@tazaryach - Mute or not, it was still rude because you could be seen. Like two snickering middle school girls whispering about a new crush😂.
To the Israelites your repetitive questions were answered. They said over and over they don’t believe that Jesus was white. They said over and over the behaviors you’re mentioning was wrong sinful, behavior done by professing Christians not Christianity it self.
Yesss!! It was like a one trick pony.
The 5th century mosiacs show Jesus as a middle eastern looking man. However many churches portray Jesus as the local population, ie Jesus looks like an Asian in Asian churches
These religions ain’t nothing but divisiveness at the end of the day.. just understand that God lives within.. everybody praying to different idols, it’s only ONE GOD at the end of the day and that’s the Most High
I watched/ listened live while doing chores. This was respectfully hilarious great content 😂 👏🏿
I'm doing the same, them I found this
Hebrews are waking up! Qam Yasharalah!!!! ✊🏾
I haven't even got to the start of the debate and Bandana Joe and Shades Mcgrady already can't shut up! Just geekin and goofin🙄 Broooo when are they not annoying 😩
We don't find identity in our race, our identity is in Christ!
HALLELUJAH
He lied!!! The Christian brother said Isaiah 60 was the Millennial reign of Christ 2:13:45 …. (Which hasn’t happened yet) …. Then he goes to say later, because he knew he was cut, he says Isa 60 already happened??? In Ezra?? 2:23:18 Which one is it Christian Brother?!
Y'all need to invite Bishop Nathaniel from Israel United in Christ
Yes...this would be an awesome conversation
He's more refined in his delivery, his teachings and don't come off as a petulant child like these brothers from ISPUK
Iuic Taxonomy is listed as Islamic. Non of these guys are of YHWH.....
Lol you’d have a better intellectual discussion inviting my pet dog than any Hebrew Israelite
They don't want Brother Nathanyel on this platform. He would eat these christians up 😂
They claim they love Jesus with their lips but their hearts are far away
Pastor Omar Thibeaux would be a good guest to discuss this topic.
School of hebrews here ! He knows who the bibles speaks of but ALWAYS points to Yeshua !
They had the right people on there, it does not make a difference who speaks with these Commandment breakers, they will find something wrong with him, these brothers did an excellent job.
@@israel4reel787 I wasn’t discrediting them as I didn’t watch. But I do believe Yah uses Pastor Thibeaux as a “bridge” for heavily indoctrinated Christian minds. Different vessels can reach different people so let those who have ears hear…
I AGREE much less radical
@@shalahzamarah2738 The way you think is why we’re in Captivity in the first place, we’re at War 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾
When the Christian brothers broke down the definition of Christianity and what they are against. How is there still an argument? They said what you're against we're against, so what's the debate? 🤷♂️
I see how they keep ignoring them pagan celebrations. I haven’t seen them say nothing about that Easter and Christmas
The lord cutting off captains mic so we didn’t have to listen to this nonsense.
God the creator of everything desires to have all his children in heaven with him!
One thing I can say I respect about the Hebrew Israelites is their unity and their boldness
We as western Christians have lost this boldness and unity
We can barely agree on scripture.
Be unified be bold
😂 to the cutting the Mic part
Fr!!
@@Ph3n9om Luke 12:51
“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:”
This was a good debate. The Hebrew Isrealites were wrong on their stance. They were very disrespectful. Laughing and talking to each other while the Christian Brothers were speaking. How can they say they love Jesus, when they don't even acknowledge or know the reason why He came to earth.. If a person wants to continue to follow the Mosaic law, Christ is not benefit to them. Great job Christian Brothers!!
I just watched this episode. I watched both episodes! I am so proud of both of you Tysean and Ryan for hosting these two episodes because it certainly helped to elevate Christ consciousness! God is using the both of you mightily! I cannot say enough! Keep doing the work! ❤🙏🏽
Christianity and Christ “consciousness” are 2 very different things. We follow Christ…period! Forget all that nonsense about Christ consciousness
Ultimately the principles of the Israelite groups are based on regaining our lost identity and educating the American population of Hebrews(black people) on our significance to Almighty and his promises to Abraham's seed. The book of Exodus gives a glimpse of how our ancestors held on to the ways of Egypt. The 40 years in the wilderness need to come to an end. Studying and reading the Bible as if your ancestors wrote it versus reading it with the outer influences of religion(including Christianity) and doctrines gives you a more clear sight of what has been written. There is plenty of truth in the scriptures, we need to study to show ourselves approved.
Hello👋🏽 Great comment.😊
HalleluYah!!
No doubt who is gonna win this debate, my true brother in Christ Jesus 💕 because with Jesus as our Lord we are victorious
Christianity is based on the life and teaching of christ..Christian is a person who follows and practices the religion...
1:26:59 this argument is saying that if you are born a non-black Israelite then there is no means to salvation. So then salvation is based solely on a race?? What about the cross?
That's nowhere near what is being taught! Color has nothing to do with being an Israelite.
Yes salvation is of the Jews. Other nations will be taught righteous by Israel.
@@DTcl6dw salvation is for anyone who puts their faith in Jesus Christ
@@misslisa904 that’s what it sounds like
@@Jenrow153 When Yahusa was sacrificed he was specifically for the 12 tribes of Israel(Matthew 15:24) That being said the other nations can be saved if they embrace the truth of who the Messiah is and what he looks like and who the true Israelites are. Because they changed the images to what they respected. That’s why Yahusa will reject them(Matthew 7:22).
I would like to see the Hebrew Israelite vs the Nation of Islam. I found it very challenging to listen to the Hebrew Israelite because they are aggressively critical, insulting and used profane language that wasn't necessary. Watching them interact while others spoke was disrespectful.
Thank you very much bro Tazaryach
Ugh, I just hate that my Christian brothers aren’t able to be honest about the effects of the “whitewashed” version of Christianity. We are JACKED UP as a people because of identity stuff. This inaccurate image of Jesus and inaccurate/unbiblical teachings have deeply impacted the black community. We hate ourselves so much (our image, color, ect) we can’t even fathom being God’s chosen people.
This is a very valuable conversation.
What debate were you watching? They said over and over again that the white washing was wrong and was not a proper representation of Christianity. They addressed this multiple times and said that was sinful behavior. 🤔
@@tisha1322So ask yourself why did they do that in the first place? There is always a reason.
They always speak on it. Pastor Jerome Gay (Part 1) wrote a book about it.
@@sunnydays6237he sure did I loved his point
@@tisha1322right they definitely did! It just shows me that their identity is their color which is just another idol at the end of the day. I mean it’s like what you think Heaven is going to look like! Every nation & every tongue
The enemy has a form of deception for all that are traumatized. But praise God for true salvation for all.
@@jacinthabrice5296 Luke 12:51
“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:”
I would LOVE to participate in one of these debates
Acts 11:26 was the first time that apostles got labeled by the Antioch as Christians. Adam was right Christianity is a world view of people who follow Christ.
Exactly
@@sherrelshepard4590that we’re calling them retarded, Christian comes from the word Cretans which means retarded
They were calling them retarded, Christian comes from the word Cretin which means retarded. They called themselves the Followers of the way.
It says that they were called that just like they call black people n-word. They didn’t call themselves Christians. They were also called n-word in Acts 13:1. It’s not pronounced Niger because that’s the country which is maybe 100yrs old.
Cap said they didn’t receive the 1at century Christianity. They got what they wanted to get from it.
I would love to know what the two none Christians think about this? but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you”
So then love the Israelite brothers don’t hate them, and everyone else should too based on the scripture you gave.
Who hating on them, who on here cussing @@algreene05
They flip that scripture just like they do every scripture. They gladly say they don’t love white people. With ease.
Where is that written?!
That was for the 12 tribes to follow amongst each other. What a fool if you think someone should love someone that abuses them. Then stay in your abusive relationships. Taking the scriptures out of context.
Thanks!
That was deep when he said the other nations will not serve a god that doesnt look like them . I remember going into church as a young boy and seeing the cross with jesus on it and thinking those people are special smh.
It's an example of the fallen condition of humans. Humans want to worship/create God in their own image, which is idolatry. We were made in the image of God not the other way around
You went to the wrong church hun
Jesus wasn’t white when here on earth. Nor was he black. Isreal is in the Levant. We know what people of that region look like. Olive / darker skin Mediterranean looking people. Jesus would look more Palestinian/Iraqi/Iranian than anything phenotypically “black”.
@@much2lovely i know thats why i stopped going lol
@@JR01015Palestinians, Iranians etc do not have woolly/nappy hair, dear.
Black people and only black people have woolly/nappy hair.
So you're wrong.
1:03:21 1/3 of votes agree, wow, makes me think of Zechariah 13:8 “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein”
It’s spooky when the Bible prophecy hits you hard.
remember he said they shall come to me on that day and say lord lord, but he shall say away from me ye workers of iniquity I know you not. This is for Christians
Why do you guys always choose the Israelites who don’t necessarily understand the Bible? Most platforms are looking for views by choosing racist Hebrews who twist or don’t understand the book and it makes us look bad as a whole.
"Not all are children of Abraham" is a verse from the Bible, Romans 9:7, which states that not all of Abraham's descendants are considered his children:
• Romans 9:7: "And not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but
'Through Isaac shall your offspring be named'" o
This verse means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
Here are some other things to consider about this verse:
• Being a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob is not enough. One must also be a "descendant" of Christ.
Y’all lost BHI
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That is absolutely not with that versus saying it's actually saying the opposite of what Christianity teaches the promises goes from Abraham Isaac and Jacob and it's all about the seed and it says it clearly if you're not Isaac Abraham and Jacob you're not of the seed and you're not of the promise
Read down to verse 13. Paul is talking about the lineage leading to Jacob and the rejection of all other children of Abraham and Issac's other son Esau.
The children of God are descendants of Jacob according to the promise.
Deuteronomy 32
8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
The Hebrew Israelites we're being rude that would turn people off from listening to them. You can still stand firm without getting loud or disrespectful.
Naw …they sound like strong alpha men
Deuteronomy 28 68...Egypt in the bible means House of Bondage. God promised that his people were going to go BACK into Egypt (Bondage) but the 2nd time by ships, with iron chains around their necks. (TRANS-ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE. 400 YEARS OF AFFLICTION AND OPPRESSION.
The crazy part is these so called Christians think that Yahusha is a happy loving caring king,That dont hate and kill...Salute to the Hebrew Israelites and to all the 12 Tribe's Of Israel.
Believing in a god that was introduced to you by man is the crazy part
@nickjones1314 That's why there's a hell for none believers and people that don't follow his commandments.
They never said that they don’t believe that God is a Just God but he is loving & gracious but he is a Just God
What I'm seeing within those watching is that they're pro belief rather than pro Truth. They're not weighing what's being said void of emotions and their current status
Who's up and watching
Me lol
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So much swearing?? Doesn't correlate with Christ!
@@Chalvonia FACTS!!!
Christ didn’t speak English. So how is an English word swearing when English was never around?
@@rickhomie8322 cussing is cussing regardless of the language used to profane the name of God.
@@rickhomie8322you know that ain’t the same thing. Boy please. They were using LOTS of profanity
@rickhomie8322 Yet it was translated to English. So, no cussing! The English language is from Latin!
Those Christians brothers did a really good job distinguishing the difference between the Christianity of oppressors and the Christianity of Christ
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan how he and Tyshawn remainded in control of THEIR podcast is what I call masculinity 🙌🏾 mmm mmmm mmm they didn’t even address the little jabs just laughed them off 🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾🙌🏾🤦🏾♀️😍❤️
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@@Iamkrystamarie yea because they weak brothers no backbone. Real men set the record straight when someone is not speaking the truth
Sirach 2:15-17
15 Those who fear the Lord do not disobey his commands; those who love him will live as he wants them to live. 16 Those who fear and love the Lord WILL TRY TO PLEASE HIM AND DEVOTE THEMSELVES TO THE LAW. 17 Those who fear the Lord are always ready to serve him. They humble themselves before him, and say,
As a young black teenager coming out of Christianity and finding out I’m a Israelite a lot of people who believe it’s racist or a false doctrine are only reacting based off emotion and not understanding what the Bible is really saying
@@TD-oi8dv truth brethren
I agree
Forgive them God for using your name in vain. They’re lost. Passionate. Still lost. Save them, Jesus!
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@@clydeswafford7487 used in vain how 🤔
I watched the entire debate from beginning to end and not once did those ISUPK use God's name in vain. Why are bearing false witness?
Also I believe that those Israelite brothers won and annihilated those two so called Christians or rather shall I say Paulians.
@@anonymousprofessor8866He said GD several times
God is deeper than a color. It is not about a race, a group of people, nor is it about a gender its a spiritual relationship strictly about a soul being saved by the blood of Christ .