Tim Ross vs Princella The Queenmaker DEBATE Marriage, Family & Monogamy
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This interview needed more listening to understand and not to respond on both sides. Every time Tim spoke she softened up because he was not trying to prove her wrong. He was trying to understand. He showed her that men can also be empathetic. I feel that he left a positive impression on her. This is how you bring people to the kingdom.
Maybe
Listening to understand is a huge first step for having compassion for the marginalized. "Compassion" meaning empathy + justice/ problem solving
More men need to submit to God and actually start acting godly for women. Every church I went to was filled with more women and the the “godly “ man I was married to treated me and the children as servants to him. I divorced him after 17 miserable years and will never marry again.
@pats8219 the head of the church probably preferred you leave your husband and serve him instead.
🤡. We are not following Jesus ya are delusional. You guys don’t even understand Christ Consciousness, has nothing to do with a male but the original CHRISTOS DNA of the original ascended human which most of you are not, and can’t reach, and at this rate will never reach unless Mother Nature sets you straight or deals with you as needed, you don’t even have the capacity to understand higher knowledge. He did have more empathy then the vast majority of males she encounters and could actually listen to some of her message but none the less a male is a male and all ya did is prove her right on everything men are inacabable of love and understanding love, because real love is just not part of your beingness. Men can’t even see what’s unfolding and that all this is much bigger than Princella and coming straight from the divine mother because she is done with how the feminine has been treated on this planet for thousands of years no one knows true feminine exaltation because it has not been allowed to exist for a longgg time due to mass persecution. The male is unwilling to face his shadow and karma and looks for all kinds of excuses to coddle is fragile ego.
You guys are the real anti-Christ going against the divine order even early Christians understood archons and that Christianity is based off of astrology and esoteric teachings. You guys pale in comparison to early Christians and if you actually studied some history you would know this and that Christianity is also based off of pagan lore and that Jesus’s story is a REPEATED archetype, same exact archetype as in pagan lore, it’s MYTHOLOGY because existence CANNOT be conveyed through language, it’s an EXPERIENCE, that is irrefutable facts. The real knowledge is the Her-metic philosophy. The divine feminine is rising and you can’t stop what’s coming. The original God is the GODDESS who came lone before fallen patriarchal religions which were created for planetary domination and Transhumanism. The divine mother is who gives you life and nourishes you, even your Y chromosome is a degenerate X chromosome. Women created men. Women came first and a males whole existence is trying to be like a woman because she is the source. When ya are ready to humble yourselves perhaps you can evolve.
Shout out to the Pastor for being receptive, open, non-judgmental, and unbothered!
In what world is crying over her story unbothered? He would have showed no emotion at all of that were the case.
He is amazing and renewed my belief in men of “God”
I look at life realistically as well
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Unbothered was not why they brought him. That woman talked a lot, yet I barely heard Tim's message. Her version of the truth was overpowering
Tim Ross is brilliant!
"Love covers a multitude of sin." Tim chose to love and defend the Queens humanity.
He also made his theology and beliefs very clear without weaponizing them against her, to win the argument
Today Tim Ross taught me a very important message about Love.
What we see with Tim Ross in this video is God's love demonstrated .
Amen!
He actually proved her right that men are incapable of love in-spite of him showing some empathy, ya can't see it, but all men do is prove her right on everything, all this panel did is try to protect their access to women, it was all ego, no self reflection, Tim even admitted afterwards that his wife asked for divorce after 20 years of marriage if he had true integrity, he would have said something live while she was speaking on the divorce rates and how men expect women to sacrifice themselves for their lower nature. Its insane...
Yes indeed. He was not trying to win. He was trying to reconcile their different views from different perspectives as much as possible. I give the HI props for bringing her on.
If you are a true believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you can not go along with this young lady,it sounds good,but to God this is like the serpent in Adam and Eve,so you all want more children to not have a stable home,God made man,then he put man to sleep and took a rib and m are woman for him,God said it is not for this man to be alone,she is his helpmate,help mate, young woman is being use to go against the WORD OF GOD.
@@beatricewilliams7143I'm not supporting or going along with her..
Her problem is she denounced God and now demons have free rein over her life to work havoc and chaos.
And you right ...the demon 😈 completed the mission..separate her from MAN
A woman who can't even define what a NUCLEAR FAMILY is 😅
@franciszico828 she made it up 😂🤣🤣😅😆😆😆😁😁😄😄😀
@franciszico828 she invented that type of disfun̈ctional family 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀😃😄😁😆😅 she promoting and advertising for SECTION 8 GOVERNMENT HOUSING PROGRAM
😂 😂 😂....and people on here thinking she cooking. These women becoming professional delusionistssss
I’ve only watched 42 mins of this so far and I love how pastor Tim, regardless of him not agreeing with her, stays composed and respectful. We can’t argue anyone to heaven, we can’t shame someone to repentance. The fruits of the spirit definitely come out of him here.
I agree but want to add that All the men on this podcast showed great restraint with this conversation because it was a tough one. Princella was not being as gracious she came off as male bashing but they gave her time to explain herself
@@keelhe893that pretty much what she does😔🫤😟
Ryan was so frustrated as was I. Some of her statistics 📈 need fact checking. I wish her complete healing and restoration!!!
Absolutely 🙏🏾❤️
I totally agree. I cringed a little bit watching this! Because her philosophy of this is from a science perspective, and we all know who created science! So to speak from this standpoint is her opinion on how she feel men and women should operate with raising families, scientifically, etc….. but I bow out gracefully, and may god work through her and show her something different…. 😊
2:30:51 ⬅️ the moment Tim humanized himself to her experiences and shows compassion when nobody else in this interview would. This is why we dwell!!!! Thank you Holy Spirit 🥲🩷
Yes. I'm not Christian but willing to give the book a look through Pastor Tim.
Yaaassss Sis!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@jayfab4689 That''s awesome Sis. I hope you find the true message of Love .
Pastor Tim is the Most mature Pastor that’s ever come on this show hands down. He is a true representation of Christ. Men of God take notes! Straight humility and strength at the same time! Pastor was skilled in his ability to pinpoint the similarities in the message and still was able to see her value despite not agreeing with some points she made . He ate the meat and threw away the bones sort of speak. The essence of Spiritual maturity Pastor Tim has demonstrated. As a woman with Christian values Princella has helped me understand the nature of men and women as a whole. She is able to explain things in a very logical, practical and scientific sense. Its often too easy just to use scripture to answer someones questions. You’re really skilled when you can help someone understand scriptures without having to even quote it.
He's a simp
@@erock9594you’re proving Princellas point
Exactly 💯 Sis
I like that does somebody wanna tell me who's supposed to fix all these broken ass? Black women that follow princella and her broken black ass. As you see, the men are well on their way to fixing themselves in writing the ship. But she has said absolutely nothing about the women. The state of mind they're state of mind. Are they working on themselves? Are they getting therapy? Are they losing weight? She said absolutely nothing about the broken black women dead that all these great Willie Justin. Newly fixed men are supposed to deal with or maybe I heard that wrong
I agree but the men will never agree because of their agenda to still have access to sex WITH women so their male nature is going to always want to preserve their desires that’s why they don’t do religion well. They have failed collectively for thousands of years or else we wouldn’t be STILL having the same issues & worst.
They are proving her point that they don’t listen to women. 😂😂 she is on point!!! 💯
I learned that I need to love my wife and daughter even more! I learned that my wife may be putting up with things in my marriage and regardless of that woman's conclusion, she opened my eyes to what I must do. Awesome conversation.
I pray for you're wife's sanity and I pray she learns to love herself enough to know you're her burden and she can get rid if you if she had a stronger mind
@@foxylady6901😂😂😂😂 lost
And this is the beautiful part of family. Bravo my brother
@@foxylady6901 the cool thing is, she does love herself enough to know that she can walk at any point and completely doesn’t want to because that is her choice. Not everyone in a marriage is miserable.
Im glad you took the lessons from Princella to better yourself as a father and a husband instead of getting in your feelings. Good on you and I wish you the best for you and your family. May your daughter and wife benefit from your care and hardwork becoming a better person.
Omg!! When Pastor Tim had the revelation, I wanted to jump out my seat! I absolutely LOVED the way The Word & what she was saying came together bc it kept connecting for me too but I couldn’t put my finger on it & then boom! Pastor Tim hit the nail. She is certainly closer to the Kingdom than what she even knows.. Love this…
Lol bu saying the nuclear family doesn’t exist. People really don’t know the Bible at all
There is no kingdom to reach, atleast not for women
She just gotta believe in Christ Jesus and the holy spirit. BUT she thinks the bible is just a book that men wrote.
@@indiawood19she believes in a higher power (i.e GOD) but she doesn't believe in Jesus.
she doesn't subscribe to a male god. she doesn't believe in a nuclear family bc it's not natural. marriage is man made. nuclear family is man made. religion is man made.
the proof is in the pudding. most marriages end in divorce. . proof it's not natural to stay with one person who is the opposite sex.
man destroy humanity. you see it through the bible
man treat woman like property or mistreat them.. you see it in marriages and long term relationships
the list goes on and on. her references are science based; tangible proof... which i believe we need bc we're living on earth. ppl need something to answer "why" we are here. what's the purpose of us being here. etc
The revelation didn’t for me!! He’s right what she’s trying to do will never work without God.
Tim Ross was amazing in this interview. He demonstrated the love and compassion of Jesus Christ the ENTIRE TIME. And still pointed everything back to Jesus while ministering to Princella.
That was so beautiful to see
Where was this compassion from Jesus as indigenous men and black men failed to protect their women and children. Y’all tripping as if history doesn’t show y’all Jesus likes colonizer more by proof they invoked him and was handed the world on a platter. Either Jesus is not real or blakc and indigenous men are just failures at protecting anything
I appreciate you supporting him. I’m a woman btw. Positive male support is honored by women who believe in integrity and honor.
I have researched all she has said I overstand everything & stand with her to every word she spoke to the very end Love you Queen & I'll see u in the new earth that we are slowly shifting into.❤
2:32:30 The fact that Tim acknowledged Princella’s experiences verses Ryan’s statement of “we don’t want to hear about all of your past blah blah blah”, even after asking her, once again proves the points she’s made throughout the show up to this point.
Bingo
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Yup! They were VERY dismissive... and she spoke about emotional intelligence... where was it?
This. I hated the way they treated their “guest”. They were literally proving her point.
Ryan is an example of the deficiency males have that she is talking about.
This was more challenging for the podcasters than Tim. I have more respect for Tim because he demonstrated a lot of divine masculinity.
Yes!!!!
Divine Masculinity indeed🙌🏾
YESSSSS
Yessssssss
lol he just has a higher IQ than the other two.
Wow!! This woman is brilliant. I see all the nice comments about Pastor Tim and all he did was listen and try to understand which really shouldn't be such a huge feat. Just goes to show we expect men to listen and respond the way the hosts did, we do not expect them to respond like Pastor Tim, unfortunately. The fact that this woman is sharing and teaching this content for free! It's quite remarkable, she should be giving TED talks to people who are happy to listen and receive such elevated teachings.
💯💯💯!!!
Don’t try to diminish what Tim Ross did to just listen and try to understand
@@babyslm11I agree..it was a lot of defensive energy which is why often they claimed she didn't answer the question but she did ..Like she said . Truth hurts!
Shattered women gives broken advices... a woman taking princella advices is like drinking water from a broken glass cup ur going to cut or swallow glasses
Her warped sense of reality will collapse the structure of this planet and it would bring serious destruction the likes that one can not imagine.
I'm so happy I saw later versions of this podcast before this one to see how much these hosts have grown because they were passive-aggressive, demeaning, and flat out rude. He gets so excited when talking to Tim you could sense the bias every time she opens her mouth. This just makes her point of view all the more valid.
I agree. I did not agree with the way they expected her to simplify her answers without giving context, when I've never seen them do that to men they have on the show.
I’m glad I’m watching this later to watch it 2x speed. To their defense, Tyshawn said he disagrees with most of her content in the beginning. They set the stage for this to be a hostile interview in my opinion.
I found it interesting that she said men listen for 30 seconds and then check out but none of her answers were concise nor straightforward. But I did appreciate hearing her perspective.
As a Christian woman I feel like the one big message I got out of this is women need to know their wholeness, understand their value; nurture their creativity and love (learn to) themselves wholly. I also like the point that women need to understand men and what it means to be in a marriage before committing their lives in that ministry. I also feel both guests agree that men need to submit to God (Higher Power) and work on themselves while seeking guidance from fellow men (women can’t do this for men)….i found this discussion/debate very interesting, thank you.
Spot on
Agree! It's called chew the meat and throw out the bones. But unenlightened people are unable to do that. Which is unfortunate. They throw out the entire meal. But there was a WHOLE LOT OF MEAT IN HERE!
I liked ur comment. My question is do u agree that not only men, but women too need to work on themselves to develop (and submit to God)?
@@10ille99factoids!!
@@fishbowl8496 yes I agree that both men and women need to work on themselves….there is always room to learn and grow for everyone. As a Christian I also agree and believe both men and women need to submit to God / Higher Power and I believe God does not have a gender. God is Spirit and we can never understand God because God’s Being supersedes our human understanding.
Here's something intriguing from my time serving as a Christian counselor: in almost every married couple I counseled, men would often express dissatisfaction with the frequency of sex and share frustrations about their partners' complaints. On the other hand, women frequently mentioned emotional distress and high levels of stress within their relationships and surroundings. Princella is addressing some uncomfortable truths that many may shy away from. It's essential that we listen because she's touching on something significant, and this observation is based on a substantial number of Christian couples grappling with marital issues. While some may attempt to reconcile biology with scripture, I've personally encountered numerous instances of cheating pastors and church members, and lots of family dysfunction, which lends credence to her argument.
You hit the nail on the head.
Princess are your Male/Female family cohesiveness statements based on the psychological problems that results from human men not mice? Family, male/ female, Divisiveness definitely causes Black Family Dysfunction & Black Male Demise! The male masculinity functions are to direct, protect, & provide that educates, motivates, & demonstrates Black family unification! Female nurturing, supporting, Creativity ,motivating, & stimulating the emotional educational growth! Separation brings about annihilation! The simplicity of male/female compatibility is unification! Female reproduction can’t exist without male sperm introduction! Your vitriolic verbiage of male condemnation coincides with the white powerful systemic separation resulting in Black Family annihilation! I agree that non marital Black Female statistics have increased due to inherited female indoctrination & commonly expressed from ignorance “ I DON’T Need A Man” thus promotes homosexuality! Women also adorn themselves for male acceptance witch can be intentional larcenous looking for financial, physical, & emotional satisfaction!RESPECTFUL BIBLICAL Foundational TRUTHS That REFUTES FALSE FEMALE EMOTIONAL Feelings that FORGES satanic Separation from Pernicious Philosophers that you promote! Male/Female Relationship Education is VITAL for Relationship Cohesiveness! Princess please project the emotional equalization of Female separation that can promote egregious evils of jealousy, hostility, envious inferiority when compared to each other, & bitch brutality Is persistently prevalent! R Kipling’s poem The Female of The Species! Jezebel & the wicked women of the Bible are also written for our avoidance of evil behaviors! God is the AUTHORITY on promoting Unification of Male/ Female Relationships!
Sounds like sex addicts and women who need to grow up?💀 Most folks don’t comprehend and stick to scripture, we go our own way and pleasures are EZ to become addicted to while emotions are EZ to get manipulated by…
The fact that you are a Christian male counselor saying this speaks volumes. It is cool to hear your pov. I am saying this as a Christian woman.
So, as a “Christian counsellor” your endorsing the break up of the nucleus family and the fact that men are incapable of functioning accordingly in a relationship? I guess this is why they say seek WISE COUNSEL” 😏
1. From observing Princella, her life experiences sent her on a quest to scientifically understand a man's behavior. She has synthesized what she's learned and created the platform she has today and has chosen to deliver advice to women based on scientific evidence. Her message will go over most people's heads because the average human reads at a 7th-8th grade level.
2. The Hardly Initiated team failed to do what the Pastor did, which is listen with an inclusive lens. Their stance from the beginning was to dismantle the ideologies she's studied. Science vs spirituality are hard to exist in this conversation. They also cut her off after asking her to share her personal experiences. Asking her to shorten her thoughts. Make it simple. Men want women to communicate simply. Women are more verbose. Hence, the podcasters not genuinely listening to understand vs respond like the pastor did. Cutting her off also communicated you could care less about her past hurts which is definitely not the Biblical way and hopefully you two will take the time to apologize for this. She deserves an apology for that segment specifically.
3. Pastor Tim seemed to be very genuine in his responses and showed great care to be inclusive and not divisive. He sought to find similarities and not harp in the differences in thought and belief. That is a very rare trait and is to be commended. Had he not been on this panel this evening, no progress would've been made and Princella's entire messaging would've been dismissed. His emotional intelligence is high. He seeks to understand. He knows a woman needs more words than a man. He seems to be the 1% man all women are desiring and hope to find. May he infect the 99% to follow his leadership on how to treat women.
Exactly 💯
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She's just saying dumb stuff that any person with a decent amount of intelligence can easy pick apart. You're lost you thing
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Ryan and Tysean were hell bent on telling her she was wrong when if they sat and reflected she wasn't. Their own male guests who may be good husbands NOW, have all said that - in the early years of their marriage and relationships they put their wives through a lot. That they were cheaters, they were immature, they were broke and had to be supported, etc. I've listened to most of their male guests - and all have put women through "trauma".
Ryan and Tysean have also admittedly put women through trauma. I remember a guest (I think it was the female virgin from the show last week), asking Tysean why he was criticizing women about having a lot of bodies (sexual partners) while he himself has contributed to a number of women's body count. He got defensive and didn't want to address it in an objective way. He admitted he was wrong but didn't want to focus on his wrongness.... only the woman's. Child even the male virgin they bring on is toxic as hell.... talking about "shorty" this and "shorty" that.
Princella is very articulate, she expresses her self so well❤. This conversation was dope!
I'm a 49 Year old Black male...and when i say Princella has really really made me think about some things....She really made me take a deep look at my past behaviors/relationships...
Good🫶🏽
I’m so glad someone can understand. Even though it sounds different from what we KNOW the things she’s saying is happening DAILY within male and female relationships.
You 50 years old and princella, 38, make you check yourself on these topics really? That make me question your upbringing big homie?
I came to the realisation years ago watching westerners that there are many children in the adult population. I don't mean to sound insulting but I just have to say it as it is. Many of you, males and females included, are horny teenagers in adult bodies. Truth be told, you guys need Jesus in your lives.
This is what appears to be affecting the black culture.
When men rise to the ocassion and begin to really, REALLY take accountability for their actions, there'll be change.
It'll be tough holding the mirror to your own face. It'll be tough to admit your insecurities and vulnerabilities to yourself talk more others. But if you can take that first step, the rest would begin to fall in place.
It takes a grown man to admit his shortcomings and his growth. Well said @Beastmode4ever.
This was an amazing interview. I learned so much from both sides, and as a Christian woman I believe a-lot of what Princella says because like a lot of women I too have lived it repeatedly. Men don't hold other Men accountable. I suggest having Men on the show who admit that they treat women this way, lie, cheat, steal, rape, manipulate, use abuse and the list goes on. I have never seen a man say I did these things to a woman and this is WHY, now we can have a conversation!
Most men will never admit to doing these things to women.
The host on the panel know what she says is true! They've admitted to it on Pastor Jamal's interview. Men give each other daps for cheating + Princella will be condemned for exposing the man code. Steve Harvey was called a simp for exposing men to women.
My ex admitted it AFTER our divorce. He praised me for leaving because he wasn't ever going to file or change on his own.
Recently, I came across a video on RUclips featuring a Pastor who shared a story about cheating on his wife with a man. He referred to it as a testimony, but I couldn't help but think about how the situation could have continued if he hadn't been caught. It's concerning how many individuals refuse to admit their actions until they're caught red-handed, and even then, some continue to hide the truth. This behavior is truly sinister.
Similar stories involving Bishops and Pastors, such as Bishop Eddie Long, are disheartening. The apparent betrayal must have shattered the trust their wives had in them. I personally choose not to entrust my life to man, as it's too great a risk.
BOYS will never admit it. But once the boy grows into what a real man is he has no choice but to admit it and also hold all of his male friends accountable as well. That’s where we break this cycle. Accountability among all males.
Man listen....2 hours in and I can say HANDS DOWN this is the best full circle conversation anybody has had with Princella. Pastor Ross is patient and that makes all the difference.
As a listener this takes a lot of patience and if something rubs you wrong, it's ok...don't click off....because so much of this is pin point accurate and necessary to reset a lot of mens' outlook.
Really, over 1 hour in. I could not understand much of what that lady was explaining ... And i am a woman. For the part i understood, she was much talking of a place of hurt. I could not agree with her opinions on men and women.
She lost me when she said that women do not need men.
That is misleading.
@@freshdesign2026 Try and actively listen to the whole podcast. It was enlightening and all parties were wonderfully polite and considerate. Princella does have some poignant insights we all can learn from. In a lot of ways, she is the voice of millions of suffering women. I really encourage you to listen. I know 3 hrs is long! I did chores while listening.
I really appreciate your willingness to Really listen. We are in critical times!
This is how Kings in Africa has lived for years, women and children lived alone
@@walterjohnson7455yep. It’s how all black people lived before colonialism. She has studied it. It’s in the books
Thanks
The maturity level difference between the hosts and the pastor is MASSIVE. Its HUGE.
He's talking to a woman with psychological issues.
Too many times they show their childishness, it’s annoying
Especially Tyshaun @@LaurenFunderburg
Because the Pastor's foundation & mindset is God centered.
Exactly! They are not mature to be having this convo. They validated her world view. Both her and the pastor were unbothered. She's the "anti - Christ though". Praying for her to meet Jesus🙏🏽
Powerful Conversation. What Princella is saying exists here in Tanzania! In some communities Husbands and Wives live peaceably in separately households usually on the same compound. The women have support of other women in the community to raise the children and boys and girls are reared separately for future life roles. Funny enough this is all Biblical and the Bible's culture is African. (only 30 min in to this video)
Also... what she's talking about men being together to establish a natural pecking order is essentially a "brotherhood" or "rights of passage"
Am sorry Sarah but you can not conclude that something is working based on few villages in Tanzania when Tanzania itself has not proven to be the most thriving country. May I ask what do you mean biblical culture is African? How many countries have you visited to conclude that Africa is the blueprint for biblical customs ? How did African become acquainted with the Bible?
I am African myself and the continent is faced with so many challenges because of the same culture and customs we think are superior to other cultures. Not having both parents in the household does not serve the family certainly does not improve the children’s development.
@@lonagwegwe…before colonialism Kenyan culture, most Bantu culture was as Princella described. The wife and husband slept in different structures within a compound. The children were raised in said compound. For the record, the oldest bible with all 88 books is the Ethiopian bible. Bantu and Niger-Congo cultures are all mostly Old Testament. Look it up.
@@lonagwegwe I am not sure why you are asking her all of these questions. What did she say specifically that you are essentially disagreeing with. Let's start there.
@@AscendinSoul and is Kenya the most prosperous nation? What did that segregation do positively for the family structure?
I'ma need her on the Basement w/o these two hosts cause I think Pastor Tim gets her WAY more than they do
Their brain is not developed.
He's married and in a seemingly healthy relationship. These type of men have more balance and understanding of feminine energy than most bachelor's.
Yep they thought the pastor was gonna come and tear her down like they tried to do
Yes
Yes they proved every point she was making. And she still got the point out even with them making it difficult.
Folks, really focus on how Tim communicated with Princella. He used humility and compassion to control the atmosphere which allowed her to lower her guards enough for him to plant a seed that I believe will be the cause of her changing her belief in men. She’ll find a great guy that God will use to help change her narrative. Tim, AWESOME approach my brotha 🙏🏾🙏🏾
For me one of the major points she landed on and emphasized is this: Men are the problem and men are the answer. Men are the problem and answer to sexual and physical abuse; men are the problem and answer to fatherlessness; men are the problem and answer to sex trafficking. Men must mentor and disciple men to become better men. Apart from that the proliferation of misogynistic, manipulative, and materialistic men will continue to grow. If more pastor focused on helping men get whole, we could make a dent in the problem. If we get the man right, then we will get the marriage, family and community right. How many pastors are up for the challenge?
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Amen agreed
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Amennnnnnn! This! And you're a pastor??? Wow. I appreciate you for this VERY enlightened conclusion
#FewAreCalled
You're wrong and lacking intelligence
What I find most interesting is that this same podcast had Minister Yada on 2 weeks ago. He said a lot of negative things about male behavior and they agreed with him. Seems to me that they don’t like when women highlight negative male behavior. They’re called a misandrist and the gaslighting starts (who hurt you?!). But men can speak the truth about male behavior and it’s accepted.
And Yads is a documented scammer😂😂😂😂 but since he’s a man, they’ll listen to him. Pathetic😵💫
That’s where we have a problem. That’s what she is trying to tell us. Prince Ella 🤷🏾♀️
I say this all the time. They’ll listen to “Big Bro” although we’re saying the exact same thing 🙄
I said the exact same thing when they played the clip and said she was coming on the show, after the abuse show. I was like she is saying THE EXACT SAME THINGS men say including them. So what exactly is the issue. The issue is she is telling women to decenter men.
But that goes to her point…men must follow men.
They say about 85% of black women have faced some kind of abuse in the household as children. Most of it being SA. Pretending this is not a huge issue and just anecdotal is invalidating and disrespectful. She has very valid points on why women need to separate and find divinity outside of a male centered society. Anyone telling women otherwise has something to gain.
True
You F'ing dumbazz MOST of that abuse is from the MOM and her new BF or the step dad.. WOMEN DESTROY families while men protect them. G*T*FunkOH with your bull.
this is a bs stat
But over 80% of black kids are raised in single mothers households. So make it make sense??
@@brandonwilliams1851-- right!!! It's BLACK MOTHERS who are DESTROYING children. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can do the math. When dad is in the home (whether married or single custodial father) kids do well overall. When a mom takes over the lead and is the "protector" it all goes to hell. We need to STOP WORSHIPPING these house slaves who kicked dad out for gov't cheese. 97% of of the time when the mom says "dad left us" she ABUSED the feminist courts to push him out.
Respectfully, I’ve listened to Princella for a while. The issue I have with her is she never says, “Some Men” or “Some women” not all men are bad dudes or incapable of loving a woman wholeheartedly. I am a father of 3 and I’ve been with my lady coming up on 12 years. We’re a God fearing couple. We communicate. We work well together. Are there ups and downs absolutely but that’s with life. Also, her “books” are modeled after books written by Men. 41 Shades of Men(which I read) is 48 Laws by Robert Greene same exact format. Most of her ideologies come from men. With all due respect she’s a great salesperson. She made a comment about car salesmen being vague. If you listen to her closely the way she communicates is vague. She still hasn’t given an answer of the right type man or woman. And she over-talks which is why men zone out. If we ask a direct question why not a direct answer. She goes into biology and gives a 5 minute monologue to still not answer.
Agree! Not all are the same!!! She was giving scientific explanations , I'm a woman and stunned out myself!
Thank you Pastor Tim for maintaining a posture of control, empathy, curiosity, and firmness. I pray this conversation open our eyes to pursue purpose and be solution minded. Love and light everyone!
I think he didn’t want to go down the angry woman route. She is wrong in so many ways, because anytime anyone goes against God word is in danger of hell , fire and brimstone
Yes, he did very well. I thought he was going to get emotional. Princella is for people who understands esoteric and the occult. He broke it down well for those who need the basics of what she tried to say 😅
Express her beliefs and facts but ARE THESE FACTS ACTUALLY TRUE? You come off as agreeing with her cus she a woman and you are a woman, could that be a true statement?
He had to, or the women in his church would leave.
@@geraldos9094 that part
Ryan and Ty were listening from the filters of their belief system (social programming) so they weren't getting her but Tim, God bless Tim. He was listening and hearing without being judgemental. He was asking the right questions and had the appropriate responses to engage a healthy discourse.
Tim Ross is a GEM!
That's right and they are hurt by what she saying
Thanks so much Tim for acknowledging her pain that she went through instead of just dismissing it! That was powerful in itself.
Yeah, Ryan basically told her to "shut up, don't nobody wanna hear about how badly you've been treated by males." How does any woman listen to this guy?
But then he turned right back to how Jesus is the example that defies her points…. I don’t think that was done truly in altruism
2:31:12 cringe
@@CuriosityKilldBoredmit showed empathy and respect. You don’t have to agree with everything someone says. It was made very clear that the foundation of their ideals come from a completely different place.
@@lizb1061explain?
Sis is ahead of her time. Thats all. much respect.
Damn. This debate should have been held without the hosts. Idk how they missed the mark on this. Salute to Tim & P. Y’all opened my eyes to many things.
They missed the mark because deep down, they know that they are the very men that she was talking about.
This seems like a closeted manosphere channel...so I'm not surprised
@@teresam5199 when I tell you I was just saying this to myself…literally took the words out my mouth.
@@synthtv5976she did have to call the one guy out on liking you ger women because they're more Naive
@soundsaboutright--- That's exactly why they go for the younger, inexperienced woman.
The way the Host kept proving her point about Men needing leadership. Some people don’t want change cause it works in their best interest.
Exactly girl 🎉
Works w/ white privilege too😤
It's their show... not hers. She flopped her mouth during most of the video. Yall hyenas so damn divisive
I find this comment ironic, when it's her that needs male platforms to push her message.
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The first step people miss or get misconstrued is, she NEVER said we can’t coexist or partner up with each other. She is saying once the men govern themselves, the men will be their best selves to THEN be able to have a healthy community. Women should NOT try to save them
I sure we hear that part and in a lot of ways support it. Where you get lost is the no marriage, never live together, only co partner and if the female has a boy at the age of 6 or 7 give you child to the man. That's a tough pill to swallow.
@@TamikaMichelle Again, take your own bias out of it and think bigger picture. What points is she making that we don’t already perpetuate??? Aren’t we preaching to take marriage very serious, then there are men and women stepping outside of their union already practicing the polygamy. Let’s just cut the middle man (marriage). You have an idea of equal partnership in the home, is that true for the MAJORITY of people in the world or do you see it one sided? Then, aren’t we saying boys need to be with their father’s, so 0-6 or 7 he’s able to embody his mother’s qualities mainly and then formative years, mainly his father. She made it a fact to state that doesn’t mean an absentee parent, it just means boys can’t learn everything from a woman, he needs male influence majority. How many in our community are screaming that right now? Marriage can ONLY be successful with two whole people (refer to my original comment). So I would say dig a little deeper on the conclusions.
@@TamikaMichellehard pill to swallow but needs to be done. Male children should be with their fathers as long as they are not toxic to them. Women can not raise sons alone.
@@erinoshun9331. If only their fathers will take them.. if only.. if only… 😅😴
@gailainsley6939 exactly bc the comment said, "give your male child to the man." No, that his child too.
Sis seems to just hate men.
Flesh and Blood did not reveal this to you. Only deep discernment can tell she is a broken Soul 💔
Francis is everywhere there is a hate /disapproval comment about Princella.like I believe there is not greater hate like a Christian love.
Yeah she jaded and unforgiving the pain is present
The nuclear family has NOHING TO DO WITH A MALE NOT MNOWING HOW TO COOK OR MAINAIM HOUSEHOLD…. Bruh shud be doing all ha alone before adopting a future wife or concubine kno your life fk all this dumb shit we all we go we can learn
@@kemistree007 Since she is everywhere spreading lies then isn't it right to make sure more people are not deluded by her tales of lies? 😀
I have never heard of this young lady but will support her in purchasing 1 of her products/books. She brought a different perspective and was able to back it up statistically. Everything she said about the biology and psychology between men and women, heterosexual relationships and long-term marriage between a man and woman is true but I've never heard it explained like this.
Also, she stood her own against the 3 guys which is commendable! She's definitely into empowering the woman which I fully support. Life is too short to be unhappy...live and let live.
Same! I had to go search her. They are listening with patriarchal ears. Pastor speaking biblically & she’s speaking biologically; which biology can’t be disputed.
Yesss 🎉❤❤
@@latricenarcisse5426 I make this comment with no prejudice but as someone who is an african and someone who believes in separatism;
Here's the problem with westerners when they have this conversations, they view the whole system through the eyes of the west and only the west, to the point that when they make appeals to biological statuses they sound like someone grasping on straws.
I would say she was right in most of her points, but when it came to solutions it is always the typical western woman's pill "Men are evil, women are innocent and victims", it's the same playbook with the sexual revolution - make men the enemy and do whatever to cause the absolute separation from men.
Her other solution is community, which would involve who?
In african and non western nations communalism or an aspect of community participation is prevalent and this is usually called an Extended Family. Which ironically has male a very significant male participation. There will always be a strong and noticeable male presence. Except she is looking for a womanist utopia.
The problems she listed out are character flaws that vary from person to person and can be feasibly solved, like a obese person hitting the gym.
Anti-nuclear family don't stop the woman from being part of the workforce, do the typical 9-5, come back home and clean up.
@@eberejosiah5078Why are males r@pists, ped0s, mass_ sh00ters, & family annihilat0rs? Why do males k*ll pregnant women at such a high rate? Why can't males be trusted in daycare centers or morgues? Why do males fill pris0ns? Y'all are the ones who are f00ling yourselves.
Why can't you take this perspective to YOUR community and save it ❓🧐
If Pastor Tim wasn’t on this panel, I probably would’ve not gotten to the end of this episode. This was a lot to digest and I appreciate the panel for the message for those to receive..
Same
Agreed!
Agree
1:48:25 I love how Ryan completely dismisses the statistic as if HE is a woman…
Any woman, especially women who have been married, automatically understand that the statistic is true and WHY it’s true. Marriage was such a miserable, traumatizing experience for them that they never wish to repeat it. Ever. Some women will date after divorce, but they refuse to marry. There’s a reason for that and it has nothing to do with the previous failure. It has everything to do with the TRAUMA. But of course, just like Princella said, he refuses to listen. Women understand and already know it to be true.
He dismissed it due to it not being in observable reality. Look at society now and imagine it goes on for 1500 more yrs. We will revert back to animals without structure.
This is why nobody should date and definitly not get married before you heal from your own wounds. Broken ppl will always connect to broken ppl.
@@chrysanthemums4963 It is impossible to heal from trauma created by a system of philosophies that end up hurting other people. If the system still exists you will be hurt again. The only way to “heal” is to destroy the system that creates pain.
Right and men don't have equal gripes like women thinking home making is more valuable than their grueling day job, dead bedrooms, cheating and trying to get them to raise a kid that isn't theirs (which is prevalent and only can only be caused by women btw). Maybe you're just playing the victim and this chick makes you feel better about it
These hosts are too ignorant to understand her message.
Tim was planting seeds throughout this whole discussion not only from what he was saying but also through his actions and genuine compassion and appreciation that he was expressing for Pricilla’s appearance on the show as well
I think there is a big lesson in grace/humility that we can all learn when interacting w/ people w/ opposing views to our own💯
YES! It takes a lot of patience to sit through a conversation like this. I loved how Pastor Tim pointed out that she’s literally speaking the same language with the same outcome, the only thing missing from her plan is Jesus.
@@Mila_C no. Her message is for women. Jesus is meant to lead men.
@@Mira-gu6we I don’t really see your point. But if you just disagree, I understand.
@@Mila_Cloved how respectful you are!
@@MahoganyGlaze Thankyou ❤️🙂
Tims Silence is golden and such an example of being Holy Spirit led I love the way he listened and didnt interrupt her
Yes 😊
I see why it took 3 almost 4 hours for this interview, pastor Tim Ross is the only one who actually made a effort to put his own views on pause to really see where she was coming from.
And we saw the repair and healing the other hosts need to embrace. They got some of it but their impatience got the better part of them and ignored the path that could have been even more resolution for some of their women listeners. This is the podcast that I only listen to based on who their guest is. We all live and learn and hopefully remember the lessons we were on course to learn.
*Yes, this should have been accomplished in an hour. Because I missed so much of it, I'm going to have to take a few minutes here and few minutes there over a few days to re-watch it; I feel that it was very interesting, even if I didn't hear it all the first time. I would have tracked this interview better if Princella and her background/values/tenets would have been introduced up front; that happened an hour or so into this interview.*
@@Eva_mazie and THAT is how we will ever come to solutions to complex situations. Gotta listen to each other no matter the point of view
princella too, the hosts were unprofessional
I don’t think she’s instilling fear in women. I think she’s instilling awareness.
I'm so grateful that Tim was there to listen and advocate for Princellas message because today men don't listen and some of the original cast members are confused because their ego felt attacked.
that part ALL FACTS
All facts
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FACTS!!
Exactly why we keep having war and genocide
Why do we keep saying her message is rooted in fear?? All she saying is the system is broken and it benefits men and is not safe for women. The cognitive dissonance is loud from the hosts. Her solutions were clear: men need to learn self governance without women. Women need to become whole and tap into their true identity outside of man’s validation. Her point has been proven over and over. Kudos to Priscilla.
They are literally trying to scare women away from the message by calling it fear-based. Twisted manipulation
How is humanity going to go on if men and women are separated. This is dumb. Women benefit from the things men do . I benefit from things men do
At the same time there's so many broken homes it's already happening
Her message pretty much sounds to be very much rooted in fear...hate n resentment
@@martelldozier3898
You worship men that’s why you’re going to continue to be dogged out.
If you like it we love it. Eve too wanted the man over her and then he blamed her for doing it.
The Men know exactly what she’s saying. The Bible clearly said the man knew but she was DECEIVED.
Wake up sister! Wake up!
I LOVED pastor Tim’s approach to this. Too many men wanted to sweep what she was saying aside. Which is ironic because that is exactly the problem and men don’t see it. But look at someone who actually listens, not just with his ears but with the spirit. Not everything she’s saying is wrong, in fact 80% of the experiences she is detailing is right and MANY women will agree (married or not). Will men listen? That’s the question.
Not according to Priscilla. Are the women listening. That’s who she’s talking to.
Hopefully brothers are ready to go to the altar, confess and humble themselves before God and ask God to teach them. Then and only then will they be ready to be there for us.
She is contradicting herself.. and throwing high level vocabulary into it . For example she talking about submission and thriving but insists that partnership can happen . I honestly can they Tim Ross was more mature than I would have been in this debate. Lol
@@michaelharris5857You still don't get it
She's way more evolved and educated then any of the men on that panel. Wake up guys! She's spitting some real talk!
It’s my first time hearing this woman and she is brilliant. I can’t help but think how useful she would be for the Kingdom of God. I’ll be praying for her.
She serves the QUEENDOM.
@@joyhappy3461 period. 💅
Horrible events can push you to purpose but they also effect your perception. I hate that she went through this, and it absolutely affects her views and message even though she keeps saying it does not. She definitely has a great speaking voice.
I collect data for my day job for the last 8 years. It’s useful but it’s always important to look at what is behind the data.
Unfortunately your kingdom constantly uses and abuses which negates any true service because you abuse ppl especially women.
You must be dumb as 🔥
Pastor Tim was the perfect person to sit down and have this conversation with her. He is a brilliant communicator. I respect the opinion of everyone in the conversation and I truly believe that collectively truth is somewhere in between. This woman’s intelligence and knowledge is on another level lol it had to listen oh so very closely. Great episode….
Agree with this!
Agree
Yeah the truth lies with Princella. Her message is not the norm. And it will go over y’all’s heads!
There is no such thing as "collective truth". If truth is really true, then it never changes nor does it "lie" in between.
Be well and be at peace.
Very good show! A lot of truth from a Woman's prospective I was married for 35yrs, what she said about marriage was true. 4 years divorced now and no regrets about leaving the best decision for me self love ❤
Kudos to you. Staying married in misery is not a flex and is against nature. When you are no longer compatible, you should be able to move on with your life. All the is “til death do us part no matter what” is some patriarchal bs pushed by religion mainly.
She sounds like people who’ve been to prison, read some books, and get some half-knowledge, and think they know what they’re talking about. “Allow me to pontificate, per se…”. When you go back and forth with a fool… This is foolish and contrary to God’s Word and will. Period.
Sophomore = Wise Fool
@@LisaSimmons-mn2sr None of those things apply to her. A fool is a silly or stupid person; a person who lacks judgment or sense. And the judgment you made about her was way off. So who's the fool?
@@LouLouLion Lol. As I said, the Bible says don’t argue with a fool, sooo…..✌️
Thanks!
She totally broke it down…. The problem is people in ego defense (males and male-identified females) and cognitive dissonance.
Correct. You can tell people want to react. Somethings can’t be summed up in two sentences
My mother and sisters
The hosts reaction is strikingly similar to when you talk with some White people about WS/ racism.
Broke what down..She’s sleeping with women,She’s a whole lesbian… You’re as delusional, hateful, resentful and bitter.
Go sleep with women and leave men alone
Yess they know if all women think like her it’s game over so they gotta keep defending with not all men every single time
Pastor Tim THANK YOU for acknowledging what she is saying! She is stating some experiences that women endure daily but are rarely heard AND blamed for how a man has treated them by men who do NOT have romantic relationships with men and by men who are the perpetrators of these experiences. 😢😭
They blamed Eve in the Garden and then blamed God. But a truly repented man will take the blame and acknowledge it’s him and him alone.
David did this when he sinned with Bathsheba in the Bible. He asked God to cleanse him. 1st John 1-10. Confession, helps one be cleansed.
Be blessed!
I loved how Tim Ross handled her with care and compassion. He never judged or argued with her. I listened intently.
Tim Ross is a Simp. He never challenged her.
@@LBFufuEatachallenge facts ?! Y’all think everything is a competition or a sport Lol
@ there were so many holes in her argument.
I can’t list them because comments are deleted
@@Muacharm when she actually gets challenged, she gets real triggered and starts hurling insults.
She’s a fraud,
how can women still listen to her after B Taylor?
@@LBFufuEatayou can’t list them because you can’t list them because you don’t have any idea what she said. 😂
I hope the creators of this show rewatch this themselves and see how many times they missed the answer to their questions. And trying to gaslight her by cutting her off and asking her to basically “cut to the chase” was in fact the most annoying thing to watch happen, over and over and over.
I'm glad this is being said... as it happens often.
Yeah they dropped the ball on this kne
You are so right. Like Tim had to translate lol. There were only truly 2 intelligent people here and them 2 stooges weren't it
@kaijai006 facts
Yes, I sense the hatred and impatience pouring out of them. But she conducted herself with elegance. ❤
At first I didn’t know if I could deal with the back and forth of this episode but I love that everyone in time became more open to exchanging healthy dialogue. Tim was the light in the room and eased the tension by way of being a true witness and expressing the decorum of an emotionally mature person. Great episode, everyone.
Amen. It was hard for me too. Glad I continued to listen as well. She is hurting and needs healing. And I clearly see that God is using her life to send a message of of the importance of men to and be better. And I also believe this is her cry for the man to be better and do better. Her work may very well do that. I pray people will see thru the message she is providing to what God is really doing.
People ask her experience to place judgment and to dismiss her message. Then to be gaslighting her is disgusting.
Right ..I wish she would stop giving them coupons to discount her message. But she decides how best to do what she's doing.
Sometimes, people ask questions because they need context. You should want to know how a person arrives at any conclusion. It helps in getting a good understanding. A good understanding gives you space to have sympathy and empathy!
Why is it so hard for these guys to comprehend what she is saying??. Omg they are making me so aggravated
This conversation was painful to watch. These men were not listening at all. No empathy and basically no introspection or chivalry. Everytime they heard what they didn't like, they were rude.
Even cutting her off... SHE'S THE GUEST. They don't even know how misogynistic they are by telling her she is "talking too much". The AUDACITY. Y'all invited her on and made a fool of her. The hosts were really immature.
Y'all literally asked her about her past, then told her y'all don't want to hear it... How rude.
Tim was the only man that should have been talking. He's measured, mature and kind. Even when they disagree, he never gaslit or cut her off. He listened. He handled her with care. And was actually heart broken about her experiences.
The other men... All they had to say was "... Well, that's not all men.." or "... We don't want to hear about your pain."
Also, peep how it took Tim, a man, to express empathy for these men to be empathetic.
They are misogynistic and don't even see it.
If this chat is reflective of Believers, I am ashamed. I am embarrassed and *appalled*. The chat was SO nasty just like the world they say is evil. I can't see the difference.
Heartless. And a POOR representation of Christ. This is why folks don't like Christians. Jesus cared. Jesus took his time to listen and show care and empathy. Y'all are just mean.
THIS is why Princella says what she says. These two are a PRIME example of what she's talking about.
That part!!
That’s why for the first time since I started watching the lives. ? I couldn’t finishing this ☝🏾. I was very disappointed 😔. Am still struggling inside my mind right now . Lord help me 🙏🏾
Even called her evil at the end. I sat through the entire podcast and was glued to how well learned she is. She completely understands the Universal Laws of the Earth and this Fabricated World is a antagonist to the those natural laws, therein, we have all these problems. To me, she kept it simple and told the Truth to those who recognize the Truth.
I agree 💯 Spot on....every word‼️
I disagree they were listening. They are very patient. I don't understand why the nuclear family isn't natural. What evidence does she have? Where are her sources?
Great episode, the scientific reasoning about men was astonishing, thought provoking and enlightening. Thank you Prescilla your courage, research and your ability to maintain your composure was admirable. Thank you Pastor Tim for protecting her and giving her a safe space. I would love to see you two work together in the future.
As a married man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Everyone isn’t cut out for marriage regardless of gender. It takes an exceptional person to get married and remain successfully married. The marriage and divorce rate numbers are accurate and it takes a special person to indefinitely pair-bond with another person. I pray for the best outcome for everyone. Honestly, there are some great people out there, but they are not great for marriage. God bless 🙏🏾
I totally agree some of the greatest people in the Bible died single
Agreed.
Very interesting perspective, UpdatedView. Would love to hear more detail about what kind of person it takes to remain successfully married.
I am not cut out for a lot of things, but that does not mean that I will not get the tools necessary to be better at it
That's not bad news because it helps some of us make a conscious decision vs. white picket fence thinking .
Princella is brilliant!!! Thank you so much for this enlightening conversation. Everything she says hits home and makes sense.❤ The pastor’s epiphany about Jesus is also brilliant. 🙏 My mother says the same thing; “men need religion for guidance.”
Facts!!
I appreciated this, and after hearing her insight I don’t think it makes her bitter it makes her aware. She’s 1000% right about men draining your multitude resources… she’s also right that we shouldn’t have to be helping these men as much as we do. We are not their mothers… she dropped a lot of gems!! I love men, but after being used before myself I will never get used again. I’m currently pouring into myself and similar to what she said my life has improved exponentially. Y’all pay attention to what this woman is saying!!!
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Men protect and provide like a father , and men could easily say we are not women's father , where would that get us?
She's for thr broken
@@Itslewieo plenty of u are raping pillaging and whoring. Repeated disrespect and enslaving the feminine. Times up.
@@Itslewieomen create the problem then claim they are the solution. Who are the men protecting women from? Men. So men are the problem (insecurity) and they are the solution (security).
Thank you, Pastor, for understanding her story, because most of us have gone through what the Queen has gone through!
Facts
No, most of us did not. Just too many. Plus a woman has no business going out drinking with a man especially one you hardly know.
@@HopeRichards-t2d
Boo no one is talking about drinking, we talking about the programing of what women have gone through due to unnatural orders of patriarchy that males have used against mother nature to cause chaos and distractions against women and children. You are in your denial
So rather than praising the woman who made the points. You praise the man.😮😮
U are delusional to believe in her nonsense
My stepmom has been married to my dad for 25 years, one day we were having a conversation and she told me if I want to stay single for rest of my life, it’s ok. That hunted me for years! Since I’ve started listening to Princella , I understand why she made that statement.
I'm so sorry to hear that listening to her was what made you understand that statement from your stepmom. Did you ask her about why? Maybe she was coming from the Biblical perspective that it is okay to be single and stay that way and not from the rhetoric she so gladly stands on? Marriage is indeed not for everyone, but her ideas and using her wordsmithing to make it sound good is so wrong. Why do I say that? lYou can not quote polls and studies and present them as FACT! Those who created them wouldn't even do that.
@@willwashington1884You are on every comment trying to gaslight women and their experiences as if they need you to narrate what they have gone through… You are proving her point about men not being able to listen and being dismissive as hell. This is our reality, GET OVER IT! Or be left behind!!!
Wow!! Respect
@willwashington1884 Mr. Not so intellectual, statistics and large studies are the best way to gain factual information about a population as long as it comes from a reliable, credible and ethical source. 🤨
@@willwashington1884 Marriage is unnatural! People keep saying marriage is not everyone! Marriage is not for anyone period! Who said being single includes not be married!
This lady created her own system just to cope.
You see how the hosts gave Tim the respect to feel and get through his point without having any questions or needing any clarity or told him to hurry up and get through it and give them a simple yes or no. It shows you how differently the message hits for “180” men who understands the conditions men who have not submitted to the creators will for men. She is absolutely right and I pray that God changes these men’s hearts to see her message clearly and they submit to the creator to change their heart posture.
The only way we can change things as men is be great and be the 1% of men she’s talking about. EXACTLY, many are called few are chosen and that’s biblical.
Let’s be real here… she takes 30 mins to answer 1 question. There are two people on this panel that need to even speak their point for both sides. In order to run this show, Tim also needed more time to talk. She took long point blank period, so much so that she spoke the majority of the time #facts.
Because when asked a question. She gives a 10 minute answer… She said it herself that men are analytical, so we don’t need 20 analogies to get her point. Granted what she says makes sense.. a lot of sense. But getting to the point faster would is cool
@keturahmorris5075 exactly it was so hard to listen
@@RodneyFxy’all have short attention spans like goldfish. Many concepts take a good 10 minutes to explain or more. There are no 10 minute classes. And analogies are part of analyzing things.
As a married woman listening to this, I don’t feel that her message is to get rid of men but how to function with them. Women have been feed this image of men being the knight and shining armor which isn’t true. If we know what to expect, we know how to move. Also I think the conversation would have been better with just her and the pastor.
I agree
Absolutely
SHOUT OUT TO US MARRIED WOMEN WHO SEEN AND HEARD THE TRUTH!!
I agree
She admittedly said she advocates that women don't deal with men and move on their own. And we know she's only talking about black men. Men have ALSO been fed an image of women which isn't true. But that isn't as important i'm sure and probably think men should just figure it out. Truth is, we wouldn't be here if we weren't already here. Men have evolved way past primal instincts to help move forward society. She's only to cause division. Admittedly.
I'm a Christian. To be perfectly honest...after praying for a husband and praying for a husband and begging God for a husband...He finally said to me loud and clear (after I asked Him if He was punishing me for something or if something was wrong with me) that He hadn't given me a husband because He was protecting me.
I dont think anyone knows just how POWERFUL your comment is🙏🏾
Protecting you from...?? If you've never had a husband how can you know you need protection FROM one??
@@BasedTruth look around you, having a husband is not a flex for alot of women. It is a flex for me cause my hubby serves me, and I serve him. 20 years happily married I have a rare man. When my husband agrees with a lot of what the Queen says and the way he shows his love for me and my family, I know I have a man that has elevated beyond his natural male nature and I thank God everyday. The things my hubby does I know a lot of men would never do. He adds to my happiness and I am very thankful for him in my life. With that said, not all men are deserving of a woman period, and some women need to know that being alone is perfectly okay. Men need women more than women need men. 😌
Wow! So profound!
@@sg5720You've got a 1%r. ❤
I’m late but wow great interview. Her message flew right over these men heads.
Thank you for schooling us Princella, your knowledge goes beyond what we have been taught, sending you love from france 🫶🏾🫶🏾 🙏🏾
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Princella will answer the question , but the guys can’t comprehend the build up.
Men are too impatient in general that’s why
Absolutely
@Teexytee777 she said herself that after 30 sec men can't hear or understand. Tim Ross in contrast is VERY intentional on being present which is a more feminine characteristic.
Also why they’re incapable of foreplay…most men really do move like it’s all about them.
Women love lies. Time will tell who is lying and who is real.
I'm actually shocked at how negative the chat and hosts were. Why invite someone on if you're not going to try and listen?
I appreciate Pastor Tim for actually listening and being open and showing compassion even when he didn't agree.
What interview did you watch?
@@Ava44322 Right?!🤣 they let her talk for over an hour without even arguing against the 72 different points she made.
@@SerpentineWisdomthey legit think we should just sit there and listen with no pushback. It's wild how entitled they are.
Wow, this is hard to watch! She has not answered one question! She going all around them! Help her Lord! You did a wonderful job Tim! As a woman I wouldn’t be able to sit there and listen to that! Wow!
People dismissed everything that Princella said about men and the world, because she shared her past traumas. Her message is for women who no longer want to be delusional about men and the world around us. If you want to be delusional, then of course that comes with denial. Also, don't dismiss her intelligence as just "brokenness". That's pretty messed up. She brings stats, psychology, biology, and philosophy into her theories and what she says is based on her intelligence and not brokenness. I hate when people do this to women. "You're speaking out of hurt" as a way to dismiss them. NO. She's not broken, she's brilliant!
Exactly. Males responses is why I deal with them with a 10 ft pole between us
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Absolutely brilliant!🙌🏾 I salute 🫡 her!🗣️
Gentlemen, I really believe that our sister is on a great path to something different and wonderful and that if we support her it can bring changes to our community. I really appreciate this discussion today let's we give our sister her flowers 💐
YOUR sister...speak for urself sir/madame.
Agree
She is so right!! I was married for 16years; with him for about 20 and I was traumatized. A part of me wants marriage again; I love commitment to the right person but there is a strong part of me that says NEVER!
And ladies have your career, business-your own money when married. He didn’t want the divorce. If I didn’t have my own resources it would have been very hard to leave.
Those of you that have not married-hear to listen…seek understanding, know yourself, choose wisely. Gain all the wisdom you can before deciding to make one of the biggest decisions of your life.
Your experience right?
Are you a lesbian now?
Never ignore red flags, and stop focusing on the pinch of goodness he showed you. You can almost guarantee your time won't be wasted.
@@robirod7421 excuse me….?
Dear lady, 99.99 percent men are DETRIMENTAL to women.
Men drain life force energy from women. This is why married women age faster.
I took "hurt people really do hurt other people" from this conversation. I am a woman who knows her true self and purpose, and I really want to thank Tim Ross for being so gentle during this debate or conversation. He is a true man of God, and it shows. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light! 🙏🏽❤️
This has been one of the most thought provoking interview i've ever watched. As a woman and a believer of Jesus Christ i really did appreciate princella's views because alot of what she said is true and women really need to be free in her purpose, which is something i've always said which some see it as a threat from both men and women. I'm so grateful fr Pastor Tim Ross, he's impacting so many lives as a true disciple. I must say i do believe in marriage but if a man can't pull up the right way or bring a balance, i'll go right back to my father the way i am.😅 RESPECTFULLY!
He knows men. He wants the truth so he is able to do what he does best, minister truthfully to men.
All these men retreats waste time. Now he knows Jesus true purpose and he can turn men from demonic to Christ like.
She said that the true God is the divine feminine . . .darkness and light cannot be mixed I'm not sure how any Christian can support her messaginf
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Straight facts, we are tired giving and not receiving what we need as women!
@Judah_1983 she is also a lesbian, so if that is your preference, then go ahead ...
I'm listening now. I'm so surprised she's on the platform. Thx Hardly Iniitiated for bringing such a necessary and inclusive conversation. We have to not gloss over real issues. Princella is saying out loud what women say behind closed doors. Many of todays men are pushing out what they have heard and seen while even growing up in single parent homes. Let's find solutions. Being fully mature adults prior to having children is one step.
Woo Chile that was the best comvo...just finished getting thru the full vid. The pastor has an empathetic ear. The point Tysean and Ryan are glossing over is the power of the male ego is inherently more DANGEROUS than a woman in her lower ego. Do women cheat, rape , murder? Absolutely 💯 But it's not on the same level or scope. Women taking chances =gambling with our LIVES. I'm a believer and know there's great men out there. I'm getting to know one now. But in my over 40 yrs of living, I can't name over 4 great men. That's sad since I'm extroverted and meet hundreds and sometimes thousands of people each yr. I wouldn't trust hardly any man unsupervised with my daughter. That's a problem and it's not pessimistic. When I travel overseas I actually feel much safer.
She also brings out just how much men need their fathers and a man in their life. We need the men in the boys lives. Great men. Unfortunately so many churches have failed our men and exploited the women.
But God is doing what God does. He’s going to save us ALL BY HIMSELF.
Praise God! He’s doing it.
Be blessed!
Why are males r@pists? Why do males k*ll pregnant women? Why are males p3dophiles? Why do males fill pris0ns? Why are males the most vi0lent people in society? Why can't males be trusted in daycare centers or morgues? The males behavior SHOWS us what the reality is. Globally, their vi0lence is causing women to change their behavior. Women have to do what's best for their safety, freedom, and happiness. The male is NOT a factor once women see they are the greatest thre@t to our ulitmate happiness & freedom.
The solution for women is to decenter a man, build yourself up inwardly then outwardly and focus on your divine purpose. God should be the center of your life, not a male.
I am God-fearing, bible-believing born again woman of God. I am rooted (in God) strongly enough to not be swayed by doctrine that is not biblical. This being said, Princella raised some hard truths about how women are treated. The best thing the two hosting gentleman could have done here, was listen - take this before God and ask HIM what needs to change in them - so women don't get to the point where they reject men as part of their community or to the point they prefer to rather have relations with other women. Ryan Catchings was so offended - he responded from an emotional defensive place - where he could have acknowledged his part of the wrong - and gracefully referred her back to the what the Word of God says, is true. If we stop listening and don't feel there is room for improvement in our actions, we stop growing. Else these platforms loose its true intension. May God continue to minister into all these presenters' lives.
Them two men CANNOT keep up, u must listen and HEAR everything she is saying. But most ppl cannot keep up and follow and critically think and separate their urge to “defend” bc they feel as though she is attacking men. There is no such thing as the truth being an attack. A fact is a fact and an opinion is an opinion. She is speaking on FACTS and DATA and BIOLOGY
You explained this perfectly.
Pastor Ross, thank you for listening and actually hearing not only Princella but every woman's heart.
I am so greatfull for this conversation and on this platform. I do hear what Princella is saying on multiple fronts. I am a woman who is navigating what she is talking about and I hear her on a heart level. Both Ryan and Tysean have made great strides but still have a ways to go with their ability to actively listen, empathize , checking that ego and male privelege. Tim did an outstanding job of active listening, listening to understand instead of to just respond and I stand 10 toes down as a follower of Christ. I do agree she is close to the Kingdom of God. I pray the Holy spirit gives her a new heart and puts a new spirit in her.I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. This was a great conversation thanks for giving her the space to speak. #ezekiel36:26#dweller #bside#hardlyinitiated
She's close to the kingdom of God? She's going to the hot place 🔥 for sure. Keep lying to yourself
HalleluYah to Abba Yahuah for HIS Unfathomable Love, Grace, Mercy & undeserved Longsufferring for us through Yahusha our Ha'Mashiach the One we've know as Jesus Christ!!!❤👑❤️
Ezekiel 36:26 is 1 of my favorite scriptures. Through HIS Infinite Unusual Wisdom Abba gave & told us how to pray(talk) to HIM toward the end of that chapter when He said He's waiting to hear our request(ask) to for the Good things He said He Will do in the previous verses!! HalleluYah!!!
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I feel she is on a journey of understanding and once she see GOD as female and male she will move to the next level.
I’m listening too and I understand why they are trying to get it in the way they are. They are trying to listen but as a woman I’m trying to understand as well. 😂
To say the a man is incapable of love is completely false. But I’m listening to everything to make sure I get what she is saying, but my head is starting to hurt. Because this is true about some men but definitely not all.
Ryan and Tysean showed way too much ego. They internalized much of what she said and it proves her words to be right. Even though she didn't need help.
Wow, this is hard to watch! She has not answered one question! She going all around them! Help her Lord! You did a wonderful job Tim! As a woman I wouldn’t be able to sit there and listen to that! Wow! And why didn’t y’all let Tim talk? The hosts dominated the conversation!
Y’all are proving her point 1000%. I don’t like the behavior of the 2 host because they are showing their frustration at listening to “A WOMEN” making her point again. I like the way Tim is responding because he is “listening” and trying to understand women. If you listen she is actually trying to help men but some of y’all will never be mentally capable of understanding.
@@Helenalaurino exactly!
@@Helenalaurino thank youuu!!!!!!!
Yup they behaved like jabronis. They proved her point and why so many women are giving men the side eye now. Smh. Princella's pov needs some nuisance but she isn't wrong for the most part..
When I hear her name. I knew she was
Women or woman. Women is plural, woman is singular
I love how pastor Tim listens. He doesn’t mind keeping quiet for 5+ min in a conversation, I know I would be extremely challenged😅
I’m truly learning so much here🔥
Same! Especially because when it comes time for me to speak, I’d forget all the points I’d want to respond to 🥴😂
@@EsiriE yes! I’d have to have a little notepad to remember my points that come up lol
definitely! @@juneelle370
@@EsiriE🤣I was thinking the same. I would definitely need a notepad
I have so much to take away from this message as a Black man, Father of 5 daughters and 1 son. I completely understand the assignment here. Thank you to the Sister and the Pastor. I would like to see these 2 come together and do more work as a team. I honestly believe we all can learn how to effectively build a bridge between men and women. Definitely going to listen again. I was blown away by this high level conversation! ❤
Aren't men already reproducing offspring with multiple women they aren't cohabitating with? Aren't the end results of babies born to single mothers, without fathers in the home bringing about a deterioration or breakdown of the family structure???🤔😔🫤😟
As she pointed out there’s truth to every lie but what we yet to see is men living in their own environment raising and governing the boys while the women thrive in a environment specifically designed for us while we raise our daughters them coming together as whole individuals
Then Coming together as whole individuals with our own plans and purposes and choosing to work with each other as partners
I respect that you said this! I said this same thing and it’s honestly refreshing to see a man say this without being offended and speaking from that space
You got it, sir. Be the 0,01% of men ❤💪🏾🙏🏾
It took 2 1/2 hours to discover that she's hurt
I'm glad I didn't click off when I wanted too. Now I feel sorry for her 😢
It’s crazy how the majority of women get what she’s saying easily but men always have a hard time understanding and listening thoroughly. She’s giving the whole run down on how things operate but men want quick simple answers due to their short attention spans. We just want men to understand what we’re saying 😅simple. That may never work so it probably is best we have separate spaces and build from there.
Literally mind blowing how much they cannot keep. And I applaud Princella for being able to sit here and explain basic concepts to these males over and over again.
Real men know this is delusional to say the least, example she said train the man and teach the woman, the female is born whole and the male is not, stupidity, the woman is an extension of the man. I could break this shit down to the point my 4 year old to understand...
Why do y'all think these men are unaliving women for wanting a divorce? BECAUSE THEY GOTTA HAVE CONTROL!!
Because most women aren't truly capable of hurting men.
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Actually it’s because men know she and the government will take all their money and resources and men not going for it
That’s very rare
Like there aren't woman serial unalivers that marry men for the wealth then get them gone it's rare its not the Norm
@@ultradevon04 it’s called femicide, look it up in places like South Africa, Kenya, a lot of cases of it in America.
The condescension is palpable from them, but in reality, they don't comprehend what she is explaining.
Exactly!
My thoughts exactly
They’re way too passionate in their own opinion. They almost look bothered as well 🤭 They’re listening to reply instead of taking in what she’s saying. Tim looks calm. You see a surge of excitement in him when he see’s a parallel between the word of God & her beliefs.
I never had the pleasure of being an eyewitness of Jesus and the woman at the well, but Brother Tim you were a modern day example of what that conversation must’ve looked like.
I just watched this ENTIRE video, on 11/22/24, and was about to click it off 5 minutes into it, BUT I couldn’t. Tim Ross thanks for showing us Jeremiah 31:3 in real time with Miss Princella. Believers today need COMPASSION with broken, hurting and wounded people. That’s the take away for me. I’m praying for you Sis.