Beetlechase by Alfa Romeo 156 3.0 V6 Q2 - Nordschleife (2009)
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2013
- "NO", we're not suggesting the Alfa is faster, it's just driven a lot better.
Check the Nissan GTR @2.00 min. We see it once, then it's gone. Like it should be.
So the Orange GT3RS with 400+ bhp should leave the Alfa 156V6 (FWD, 240 bhp max) in it's dust.
However....
If you know you're struggling, let someone with more experience pass, even if he's driving a 1998 Alfa V6.
Don't fight to stay in front, it's not a race. You'll just look stupid trying.
It's often better to follow a better driver in a slower car, you might actually learn something about the Nordschleife?
But his "EGO" got the better of him.
Driver (Stevie) has driven many laps on the Nordschleife, in 911's, M3 CSL, 147GTA and in this video a 156 V6. He loves the 911. In this case he knows the car and track a bit better then the Porsche driver in front.
And it shows, that's why we post this.
Hope you enjoy.
Driver: Stevie (aka Wonderfulhagrid / Steve Warson)
Video recorded during a Trackday, not Touristenfahrt!!! 
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Master Yoda is still in the ALFA....
Fabio Macrì Thanks man, comment of the year!
Fantastic!!! Excellent driver!!!
Congratulations from Brazil!
Forza Alfa!!!!!
Love the sound of the legendary Alfa Romeo Busso engine!
I always come back to this video, can't get enough of the Busso V6 and the tremendous driving albeit the FWD.
Thanks man, glad you're enjoying it! And thanks for bringing me back to this good memory, it feels like a lifetime ago!
This video is the perfect example that driver matters the most .
Excellent driver !!
Congratulations !!!
Alfa Romeo is well known for the superior handling but without skills nothing happens !!!
On the other side I see a stupid vag driver that his pennis is as small as his skills !!!
Congrats to the driver once again !!!
🍀🍀🍀
And 7 years later, I’ll bring you back to it, yet again :)
Omg, that's why nice skill is worth much, much more than expensive car!
Dude, you're doing it right!
Greetings!
Something like Alfa Romeo Giulia (952) QV
Alfa complimenti: in curva più agile e veloce della Porsche , ed il suono del V 6 Busso è una sinfonia unica che nessun computer può superare o soltanto imitare.
OMG - congrats to your excellent driving skills and DOUBLE congrats for your patience and for not pushing that orange bug from the track!
Love that vid!
That jerk in that tuned Volkswagen has a lot to learn.
Exceptional skill of driving and handling for a Alfa 156 with busso! Congrats my friend
the Alfa V6 music is just... amazing
Watched till the end... really amazing driving
Porsche drive is really guy with a big “ego”
He lose
Like it.
I can't help but to compliment the driver in the Alfa, absolutely good skills and really know the best line to take for every corner. Like he said, "It's often better to follow a better driver in a slower car, you might actually learn something about the Nordschleife?" - wish I have that chance too, and hope the driver on the Porsche reads the above.......
Thanks. That's exactly what we tried to show in this video.
Man but this guy can drive - smooth as silk and working making that Alfa sing and dance
Make me miss my old alfa 156 Sports Wagon, was fun to drive.
That's the most enjoyable video I've seen on the internet in a long while.
Ok, the 2nd most. But the best one I'd show my family!
Very well driven. That Porsche driver clearly WAS trying. And he wasn't a bad driver, just had smaller balls than you. I had visions of the drivers in the old Alfa's cheering as you passed them.
The Alfa 156 V6 is fantastic but you are a great great Ring driver! Congratulations.
Great video and driving.. I took.my 164 qv and thrashed Porches and gave a BMW M5 a good race. German cars have no character.or soul.
an E30 M3 or a 325i E30 has also a character. But this cars need of course a Driver with heart and character ;-) I have had them both. But now i drive an Alfa 156 and Iam happy as well abot the suspension :-)
@vinny b già..
I love Alfa Romeo carś !!!!
for the Alfa lovers: 5:20
U noticed too?
Giulia, i believe :)
@@marijanmilinovic303 Yep, think it's a Giulia GT Junior
Great driving, you really had him in the corners. I drive a 156 from 99 and love it.
Very well driven, using all the track and the kerbs where it's possible. That Porsche driver is constantly over braking, I was half expecting you to whack him up the arse at a couple of points. 911 has a typically inexperienced driver, fast in a straight line and slow through the twisty's, but more to the point, arrogant and therefore dangerous to follow. He should have let you through at the start. Hope you punched him in the face really fucking hard back in the pits!
The part at Adenauer Forst was extremely dangerous by the Porsche, could have ended very badly tbh. what a dick with his pride...
bugattieb110ss I think he just had to break constantly way before the Alfa... That car i by nature unbalanced due to all the weight in the back of its fat ass... add to that the little expierence shown by his raceline... There you go, what we have in here it´s an unexpierenced driver with (in some ways) a hard to drive car in such a dynamic circuit like this... IN A NUTSHELL: The Alfa could´ve been seen way faster along the whole circuit if it weren´t for this mischievous little egoist person behid the 911. My personal opinion: The clocks would´ve been much better for the Alfa in a laptime than the 911 if taken separately. WHY? Because Alfa can do WAY faster curves than that 911 (Even in the context of equally good drivers, it shows...)
Clearly you haven't got a clue about circuit driving in a road car.
So the fact that you have to drive on the right side of the track and let faster people pass doesn't matter? In fact he could be fined 80€ and get a point (which can lead to the loss of his drivers licence) for what he did with his Porsche.
@leponti realy ...
This is what the humble 156 is capable of with the RIGHT driver!!!
Frigging awesome! 💪💪💪
Very good under brakes, excellent driver , closes well into corners. Nice style confidence and knows what is happening with the car.
Bravo!
Hats off to the lads driving. Good narration too.
That's incredible! The Alfa didn't broke down.
Lack of skills for Porsche driver.
What an original and funny joke!
Strange I have owned 4 Alfa’s and newer have I walked away from an Alfa
That is it, what a Alfa 156 V6 Busso can do. A cheap, beautifull Car with some small differencies: Q2 Differencial and a good Driver. THX foer charing :-)
Good driving mate. Your Alfa looks well sorted.
Alfa Romeo the joy of motoring that showed the way i still have it almost 24years old 😉👍
Nice lap!!! I Watch this video since many years and I still love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very Nice hands in an alfa!!!
Almost @9.00 you nearly take him, great driving
His go faster stripes didn't do much for him, eh?
class. top driving there young man. :)
The noise of the Busso is glorious. Shame to Marchionne for having wasted it.
Brilliant - all over that Porsche!!! Vamos Alfa!
Great driving. And a nice ride.. I absolutly just love the 156...
Please let me know if the shootout between your 156 and the Boxster S is ever gonna happen. I´ll be there cheering for the Alfa.....
Good job Alfaman , And what a sound your motor !!!
excellent chase!!! goes to show how driving skill has so much more to do than how fast the car is! Either way, Alfa for life.
What a ride! :) I love the sound of legendary V6 Busso!
wonderful driving!!
Very good driving. You must know the track very well. Your lines and placing before crests is great. And what a lovely sound this engine makes. Q2 means it has the limited slip differential, right? That would explain why the cars doesn't plow (understeer) in the corners that much. You reasoning why you use the 3.0 instead of the 3.2 makes a lot of sense. Maybe if i win in the lottery I start a project like this. I drive a 2001 1.8 156 and enjoy it (within legal limits of course ;) ) very much.
How the hell did that Alfa stick on those corners???
Et voila 10 ans passé..♪♫ Mais c'est toujours une merveilleuse éducation de conduite sportive, tout n'est pas dans la puissance de la voiture mais la connaissance de la voiture et du circuit.
Impressive driving!
Nice driver nice car!From Italy!🇮🇹 Forza Alfa! E forza made in Italy
In the corners, the Porsche have no chance :P
It's actually about the driver, rather than car. 911 GT3 is incredible even in corners.
Watch comparison 911 GT3 RS vs M3 GTS vs C63 AMG Black Series.
The Daydreamer no shit m3 is shit and AMG 2
I was cheering for you on those bends faaaaakkin great chase
keep that Alfa flag flying high
that atmospheric intake sound when throttle is on.....
Perfect driver
Está claro que el del alfa tiene tres cosas:
Unos huevos más grandes que su coche... Conoce bien el circuito... Y conduce como dios!!
Un crack felicitaciones por esas manos...
perfect driving skills!
Perfect driver in a perfect car! 🏁🍀
bel video, complimenti. Bandiera gialla per la Porsche.
It was clear that the Porsche couldn't get away from him😏
a pleasure to watch!
Great driving in the alfa! Could only fault you on a couple of corners running a touch wide, but overall you could have easily overtaken if the powers and weights were equal!
Not bad for a mid sized family saloon. :p Of course if the Porsche had a better driver he would've been gone but well done and great to watch anyway. :) Also, just read the description and yeah, he should've let the Alfa pass. I'm sure he would've had more fun trying to keep up in the corners and learn't something but as you say the "ego" got in the way.
Great video Alfa power😁😁😁
Move over poxy orange vw, holding up Alfa :( nice drive!
nice car & great Drive!
Really nice looking track
Ive driven a 911 and they really dont feel that much faster than my 3.0 GTV. Of course it does go a bit quicker on the straight. But he should have let you pass if he wasnt going as fast as you were. I wouldnt like an Alfa on my tail all the way if it was me driving the Porsche
haha
Cool coment. I am a big fan of Alfa! But to be corect, Alfa GTV 3.0(220 PS) is a bit slower than 911-996 GT3(360 PS)
Sorry, I'm a huge Alfa fan but I've driven an almost new 2005 twin turbo 3.8L 911 when they came out and those things are something else all together. You can't honestly stick up for an NA Alfa 156 (even a GTA) against those 911's. Same weight, but twice the HP.
@@doraexplora9046 I’ve driven a 996 and 997.2 Carrera, they are quicker no doubt but they won’t blow away an Alfa V6 3.0L chasing it. I had the GTV 3.0 and it’s not that slow. And it depends how hard your pushing in the Alfa. If your driving hard in the Alfa and just cruising in the Porsche it would be annoying is my point
@@doraexplora9046 Of course, if you compare 3.0/3.2 v6 alfa against 2000-2010 NA carrera 320/350 hp is one point, against turbo 420+ hp and torque is another point.
Good driving skills. I'd love to take my 1.6 to the green hell sometime too :D
Great driving skill
Cool video
beautiful
fantastic car and very nice driver
This shows that real drivers are recognized when they drive on curved roads, because on straight roads they are all good.
911 мог и пропустить...водитель классный!!!
Belle maîtrise !
Quel est le moteur dans l'Alfa ?
Nice video however, I did notice that you were trying to pass the 911 from the outside on many corners... quite brave of you :p. The 911's line wasn't wide enough, maybe that's why he had such a hard time getting away from you.
it's not about lines - it's about etiquette on the track. There are rules and IF his(her) ego would have let the Alfa through then many edgy situations would have been avoided. Many accidents on the 'ring are caused my idiots driving above their capabilities bc their EGO won't let a faster driver through..
And it's been 10 years..♪♫ But it's still a wonderful education in sport driving, it's not all about the power of the car but the knowledge of the car and the circuit.
I drive about 120K Kilometers every Year. When i feel sad about the stupid drivers on german streets and Autobahn, with big BMWs and Audis, some Porsches...Shaking my head about their little Egos. ... I come back to this Vid aynd everything is okay ;-)
Great Driver, great Car. THX for the performance and uploading!
tres belles trajectoire , manque juste un peu de puissance.... genial
Grande Alfa 👍
Great great car alfa romeo 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍!
400cv e poi non sa guidare... che incapace. Bravissimo chi guida l’Alfa
I could see it forever...
very good !
have a 156 JTD that I want to make a hybrid and I am sure that with the torque it would have I could exceed that Porsche, the budget I had to do it disappeared with the devaluation in Argentina, I am looking for those who are part of the project where great ideas will come from to market ..
Do you use injectors from 3.0 or original ones from 2.5? How about ECU, is it remapped or original.I'm interested because i have 156 with 3.0 motor from Alfa 166. Injectors are original (from CF2 2.5) but ECU is remapped.In future, i will use bigger injectors from 3.0 with original ECU, i hope this combination will perform nicely.
156 Superb...👍
Riveting!!! Thanks !!!!
Alfa is the only car.
nice! so how fast is it from 0-100km/h?
Love the Alfa , when meet the old Giulia and the 156 chase a gt3rs
Is the alfa 2.5 v6 prepared?
would like to know what is the cost of driving 2 laps of greenhell in alfa hmm,,brakes r dead i guess or how is the clutch?tell me someone plz
Both brakes and clutch life depend completely on quality and driver skill. I know many fast drivers, I know very few who can make the stuff last. Stock 330mm Brembo GTA-rubbish lasts about 1 day/20 laps omg this car, the 322mm Movit fitted to this car lasted about 100 laps for pads, about 300 laps for discs. You can see where the expensive upgrade becomes a cost-saver... Clutch never failed us, it was replaces during other repairs like Q2 install and an engine replacement after polybelt failure (which lifted the timing belt) on road. For costs: budget 50 euros per lap wear and tear, going down if more than 100 laps/year are run.
Fair play mate, fwd and over 200hp less than the 911 but one thing everyone here is missing is that it is much harder to drive a faster car, the slower cars are easier to control.
Hehehe... I don't think the Beetle is the problem (even though I'm a true Alfista)! You know EVERY corner of that track. Maaan - that's driving skills I'd love to have ;-)
Synergy, it is the man with a 3L engine. His 156 is flying and he has good driving skills ;-)
I know AR. I think I read somewhere that he tested it to around 250 HP and that brakes/setup etc easily match the 156 GTA. So we quite agree: His 156 is awesome. But... and I'm no Porsche-Expert here, this bettle looks just like the 997 GT3. Walter Röhrl completed the Nürburgring Nordschleife in 7 minutes 42 seconds with the 997 GT3. And even if it's neither Walter or a GT3, there should be quite enough power and handling to leave the 156 behind. But... Goliath seems heavy and David Wheels him in, in almost every corner. I say Again: VERY good driving skills ;-)
The GT3 is a far superior car. But track racing is an another story.
The first thing to have is race braking pads that are not road legal. Driving at Nurturing is very risky. Drivers crash their cars on oil leak around a very long track. It is better and safer to drive at Spa or Brand Hatch.
SynergyFactoryMusic Thank you for you compliment!
just clocked the Alfa at 10:44 too. guilia?
It does not need tons of horsepower to drive well. The driver of the Alfa Romeo is a god, the driver of the Porsche is a rich man with car Women trailer.Alfa Romeo cuore sportivo.
This can't be stock... what did you've done to the car?
Alfa NO 1:)
Exelent!!!!!
Was it rental car this GT3? :) I just don't get it why he didn't want to let you pass. :)
Colin McRae said, straight roads are for fast cars, but corners are for fast drivers :)
why do you use the 3.0 and not the 3.2 of GTA??
Don't know, don't care. The car has the (shorter) gearbox and thin driveshafts from the 2.5 so we're quite gentle with first gear.
Having seen this now for the 3rd or 4th time I think you don;t have enough grip. Either tires are too hard for the track and temp or not enough camber.