Flight Sim 2020, Instruments on iPads - a low cost solution
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- This video outlines a low cost FS 2020 setup using external iPads to display instruments and other data.
*Apologies - the Glass App didn't make it into the final edit. You should be able to get an idea of that though from the other Apps I presented. **
My equipment and app costs:
3 used iPad Mini 2012 editions = $120 CAD (approx. £77 / $92 USD)
Multiple iPad apps as shown = Circa $60 CAD (approx. £40 / $48 USD)
Software resources to build a similar setup:
Server software - fsuipc.com/
FS2020 software & iPad apps - www.remoteflight.net/
My iPad information:
iPad 1 & 2 (left and middle) are model number "MD528LL/A" running IOS 9.3.5
iPad 3 (right) is model number "MD534LL/A" running IOS 9.3.6. Other than a slightly higher hotfix version, the only difference with this iPad is it's the 3G version that supports an external SIM card. The external SIM isn't required, I only have this version as the second hand store only had this one in stock.
Other generic information I mentioned briefly:
Little Nav Map - albar965.github.io/littlenavm...
ThrustMaster T.16000M - www.thrustmaster.com/products...
Video Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:05 - General overview
0:43 - iPad overview
1:23 - iPad app hands on
1:34 - iPad & FS 2020 flight demo
2:25 - Everything you need
5:25 - iPad app configuration
6:52 - Another flight demo
7:06 - Close out and happy flying! 
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Thanks for this. Picked up the bundle of apps on my iPad for $30 after downloading the free test app and confirming everything worked.
This saved me from buying one of the physical pieces..for now!
This is an amazing explanation of how to really enhance my FS setup easily and on the cheap! Thank you!
I Absolutely appreciate you posting this video. Thank you for sharing your FS passion with us!
Thanks! Great to hear the video was useful :-)
Just set up the cockpit guages on my ipad and it works a treat many thanks!!
Tx George, splendid advice. After viewing your video i went for the IpadMini 1 on dutch Marktplaats. Now proud owner of 3 of them ipads, for ca € 30 each, and the remote flight bundle installed. And after the vid of Mark Susak also on youtube I plan to build me a portable cockpit, incl 2 saitek panels (switch and ap). Tx very much ! grtz Jeff, The Netherlands
Thanks Jeff, great to hear my video was beneficial :-) Happy Flying!
Thanks you just saved me a shed load of money!! And it works beautifully 👍🏼
Awesome! Great to hear! :-)
Thank you for this video!!!!!! Very easy to install and set up. Works perfectly. Guys you need to do this!!!! AWESOME 💯👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks! Glad the video was helpful! :-)
Thanks for the video, George. I'm going to give it a try. When I fly the Caribou or the Beechcraft Model 18, it is pretty hard to take my view down to the instruments so this could really solve the issue.
Have fun!
You can also use something like Spacedesk to turn your tablet into another monitor over LAN and I think it's either Left Alt + Left Mouse or Left Ctrl + Left Mouse button to pull (some) of the gauges/MFDs to the tablet monitor. It doesn't have any touch screen interactivity and is a bit more limited than here, but it's an alternative.
Yes this is another approach. The reason I chose the iPads is because I like a blend of real life/arcade when playing. I'm able to fly with an exterior view of the plane this way and still have access to instruments without having to switch temporarily to an in plane view to see them. To the best of my knowledge, if a second monitor is used the active view is either interior or exterior, but not both.
His solution is much better, since it costs no resources from your pc running the sim ✌🏻
@@wackydude75 That's right. And the graphic quality of his solution is better. My setup is like his, but i have one ipad and one android pad.
how can i do this with a Android tab? how can i find the apps?
Yeah, i use Spacedesk for two monitors, 3 ipads ,two tablets and a 8 inch phone, really simple to just drag panels and position
Thanks for this George. I bought this software when I had FSX and had forgotten about it, assuming it would not work in MSFS 2020. However, the good news is that it is now compatible with the new sim, and I didn't have to buy it again!
It looks brilliant on the retina screen of my ipad and works well with no lag. Many thanks for reminding me about this great software!
Awesome! Great to hear! 🙂
So how is the compatibility exactly? Asking because in the app store it shows the app itself has not been updated in 7 years...
Thanks, awesome tip!!
Does touch input work for these controls? I'm guessing that would make it much more like a real cockpit experience. And also it looks like you have some level of selection about which gauges to display? How flexible is it? For the radio can you actually set which frequency via iPad input?
Yes the touch input works. I can rotate the VOR navigation dials and configure the radio all directly from the iPads. Selection wise, it's possible to add/remove instruments - the only downside is I cannot have less than 6 displayed on each ipad. I did buy the in-app "all gauges pack one" and in total I have 14 different instruments to choose from. Some of the instruments are functionally the same, for example, there are two "turn & slip" indicators to choose from that have different graphics. Others are multi-purpose, for example, there is an air speed indicator with slip indicator built it.
Thanks but also, can you switch the Cessna instruments with something like a320 instruments
hi Giorgio, is there the possibility of putting the various instruments on another monitor of the PC?, I have 3 connected with the Asus RTX 3060 card thanks for the reply..... if yes, can you tell me how to do it?
Is there a way to do this with the Xbox x please?
Thanks for your sharing. Do you know is there any MCDU app on IOS or Android?
I’m not sure about that. I’ve only tested the apps in the video.
Hi George. Thanks for the video. Very informative indeed. I'm new to all this. My question might be too obvious or too basic. Anyhow, here it comes... The MSFS pop out instrument panels do not include the knobs. My question is, do the knobs on the ipad app work? I want to be able to control the G1000 pfd+mfd independently. Hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance.
What if I have a MS Surface Pro 3?
Uhhh.... any reason why your AI is turning the opposite direction?
Sensacional.
Nice one George, cheers. I'm also looking into using my tablets like this, though I have a mixture of Apple and Android.
As for the dual rotary knobs with centre push button function, how are you adjusting these? I know there's at least one company that advertises these (knobster) on their own (i.e. real, physical dial) and who's software connects to FS. You can also build your own using various breadboards, and here, you can easily extend to have many of these dials and various switches etc (of course, building them into a suitable housing). Alternatively, you can purchase external instrument panels e.g. Logitech.
I've mostly found myself adjusting the radios within the sim and then I use the iPad as a visual reminder to show which frequency I'm tuned into. I've experimented with a Arduino, Mobiflight and dual rotary knobs too, however I observed approx. 1 second lag between rotary turns and the iPad updating. I'm currently experimenting with an LCD connected to an Arduino and using that to display the frequencies instead which is lag free. I'll likely pull together a new video on that soon.
1:45 Holy crap, look at that framerate!
I sped the flying portion of the video up for the demonstration :)
Are the remote flight apps android friendly. Ive tried to find them but i cant find them.
I'm not sure about Android, I've only looked in the Apple store.
Do you need the PC software for the iPad screen things to work. Cause I play on Xbox but want this
It only works on the PC
Can I use multi ipad for my c172 sim using airmanager? If yes how to do so?
I'm not sure about that, I've only tested the solution in the video.
Thanks sir ,do you have to connect WiFi direct on the iPad in order to function?
Yes, the iPads and PC need to be on the same wireless network for it to work.
How do you connest all these Ipad to the laptop ? Thankyou
The iPads should be on the same network subnet (eg. 192.168.1.XX) as your PC. In my case, my iPads were connecting over wireless to my home router and my PC was cabled into my router. For most home routers, the IP addresses will be auto assigned to each device and the only network configuration you may need to do on your PC would be to create some firewall rules to allow inbound access to the server port.
Can you use ipad 1st generation for such displays ?
I haven’t tested on that, however it did work for me on an original iPad mini using IOS 9.
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The stands for your laptop and iPads... Where are they from please?
They're both from Amazon. The laptop stand was purchased from Amazon UK www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JCPQ11W/ and the iPad stands were purchased from Amazon Canada www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XDK5H2S/
Thanks for the info
great, how to link the ipad with the simulator which is on a pc
They should be on the same network. Firewall rules may need to be configured on your PC to allow inbound connections to the server port.
Can you add info about PC?
My laptop is a "Lenovo Legion 5 AMD Ryzen 7 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Nvidia RTX 3070 15.6" 165Hz Gaming Laptop". I upgraded the RAM to 32GB and replaced the 512GB SSD with two 1TB SSDs. I'm a big fan of the Lenovo's as some of the parts are field replaceable and the hardware information sheets are publicly available.
My laptop is no longer for sale new, however you can see the full out of the box factory specification here: www.box.co.uk/82JU002YUK-Lenovo-Legion-5-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-512_3557998.html
Aye!
Is it possible to do that on XBOX?
This only works for the PC edition.
Go VR it can't be beaten .
Remote flight only supports up to iOS 14 😢
No...
This software will not install on iPad less than ios 4 Ipad mini 1 and 2 only update to ios 2.01
but why fly 3rd person?
It provides a blend between a real life and arcade experience
I wonder does this work with Xbox MSFS
This is for the PC only
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