Btw, today this video saved me from a bad fall: I decided to conquer a hill I never tried before, I was going fast, I started to feel wobbles, I thought about a fall that's about to happen and then, SUDDENLY, in my head, I heard Ethan's voice saying "face your fears..." and so did, fall never happened and I had a lot of fun. Thank you, guys!
Whats hardest to come back from is when you go for it with full confidence and are totally in control but a crack or rock nearly kills you. Always wear a helmet
Psh! In life you have to push past your limits or else you won't experience new things if you're only limit your self! Know your limits and push pass them! Achieving great things you thought you weren't able to do!
I actually usually exceed them in order to learn. I've gotten injured two handfuls of times but I don't regret it at all because falling no made me better. If you don't get hurt at least a little bit when you are learning, you aren't learning very fast at all
You'd be surprised how much of a factor confidence can play in maintaining your stability! When people get scared, they tend to tense up. Though its good to have strong ankles to keep yourself from starting to wobbling, keeping your upper body loose and limber will help you make quick adjustments and cancel out wiggling from the road. Also, when you aren't confident of your speeds on the hill you are skating down, you will subconsciously lean back, which makes you unstable. Face your fears and stare gravity in the face!
I tried today and I hadn’t longboard in a while. I definitely get scared and I have to jump out. I also stomp my foot instead of gradually braking. I also need a helmet lol. Thanks for the tips!
The last time I thought I was going to wobble, I knew it was a confidence thing, so what I did was just concentrate on what was further down the road in the distance and I pretended that instead of going downhill, I was merely standing on my board and the world was rotating underneath me. A big thanks to the guy who did the rotating!
hella funny but same time really think about it damn I'm standing on my board while the World Turns beneath me I had a similar experience once on salvia after that I never smoked salvia again having that thought while in mid downhill tuck beginning to feel that settled tug of the speed wobble probably wouldn't be a good day glad it worked out for you though bro ✌
last time i wobbled at the end of a bomb i just screamed like AAAAAA and then it just stopped and i kept going. it didnt wobble too bad cuz the trucks are fairly tight for wheel bite of the pintail shape but it was cool getting out of that
When ever I get speed wobbles I just put my feet tight and I bend my knees a lil and just have confidence. And never panic once you are going down a hill there is no turning back. Just keep cofidence on your self.
You should also tell them that tightening the back truck more than the front helps. The front truck can be pretty darn loose if u want, as long as the back one is stable! Anyway, trying out different bushing combos is a good idea. Get dialed!
Welp a sad story me and my friend went longboarding off a mountain it was last year so when he tried to slide he went off the hill in to rocks lucky ambulance came and he had broken arm both feet but hes now sitting next to me with our longboards hanged on the wall cause from that time we bought new boards bcs those were bad luck hes so lucky to be alive
the bit about how to foot brake correctly was amazing, I've seen a lot of videos mention foot braking, but they never go into enough detail about how to do it for me to feel comfortable doing it. I'll try learning it this way now, thanks!
New to longboard and this happened to me yesterday day. Everything I have learned came from a couple books I have been reading recently. Anyways, the crash led me to this video and I’m currently recovering 😅 Can’t wait to get back on the board
Thanks guys! Your 6 slides with gloves video really gave me the confidence to do downhill (parking structures mostly). I appreciate all of the advice before I bomb mount Everest.
Something that wasn’t so talked about, and that also was so hard to lean, is now so accessible, to like all the masses, you guys, through your series of videos, on the downhill modality of skateboarding, have made it so easy and accessible for all of us, mere humans, to all over the world, not just within the us, disseminating the downhill techniques and all that good stuff that goes along with bombing hills, to all of us, you guys have made history here, and yet you guys are so humble, being so delicate to all the details, so kind, so awesome, thank you guys from loaded Boards, I have almost all of your boards and I love each one of them. thank you, may the force be with you guys...
Wow, thanks for such kind words! Many of us grew up having to figure things out the hard way: Try something, fall, get back up, try again. After years and years of road rash and trial an error, we want to help people skate safe and progress faster by teaching everything we have learned! Let us know if there is something you are interested in learning and we will do our best to cover the subject thoroughly!
usually what i do when foot breaking at high speeds is i kinda squat down, grab the nose of my board (kinda helps prevent speed wobble...kinda) and then i'll have my foot on the road... i squat as if i'm taking a dump..kind of.. also, i don't grab the very tip of the nose but like the sides at the very front, closest to the nose..if that makes sense...? of course if i'm only going like 25mph then i'll foot break the same way you show us here :D
This is good advice! We always called that style of footbraking the Euro-Footbrake, since many racers and downhill riders in the European circuit practice this technique to keep their wheels fresh and grippy for longer! The key to this technique is lowering you center of gravity by crouching/squatting as low as you can before starting the footbrake. This naturally puts you into a more stable position to remove one of your feet from the board! Thanks for sharing the tip!
Thanks! We want to make sure people are pushing their limits safely and with the necessary knowledge to tackle new challenges! Be sure to share with any of your friends who are dare devils or thrill seekers!
What I recommend if you’re starting out and wanna try a hill, is to go to the bottom and practice from there, and slowly go up. This is especially useful if you say, can get down the hill but need to turn. Once you get used to that and can get down the hill all fine and well, try other hills but don’t do the same thing. See if you have enough skill to get down that other hill and if you can’t, practice more. Also, being motivated helps. Even small things like being in a good mood, wearing nice clothes, or just feeling confident really help your experience out. Hopefully this helps any new boarders
As a beginner it definitely helps to just feel confident and be in a good mood. Dressing nicely surprised me. I make sure to dress comfortable and for the occasion.
@@ultimatejoe71617 haha yea, I feel as though it doesn’t matter what skill you’re at, if you feel nice and good it’s all that matters. going out on a board feeling negative ruins the experience and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. the best advice to give anyone ever is to just chill out, don’t feel obligated to board every day if you don’t wanna.
So I feel great while riding. But then embarrassing because I’m older and not that good. I mean I have good motor skills from decade of riding motorcycles. So I’m excited to learn. I love the spirit of skateboarding and it’s something I always wanted to try. It’s a cool community of if you fall get up and try again. And I like that.
Confidence is a big one! The first time I tried going downhill, I was anxious about hitting all the pebbles on the ground, especially since construction was recently happening. Luckily, I didn't hit one, and I fixed my wabbling too. It was a lot of fun! Thanks, guys!
Getting road-rash at 30 mph seriously fricked my knee, hip, fore-arm, and shoulder up. After crashing I didn’t ride for a year and yesterday I picked up my board with one of my old buddies and I realized how epic just cruising was. Going fast is a big part of the sport but, remember longboards are transportation and it’s not about the destination its the journey you take on your board to get there. (If your local forest preserve has paved trails and they permit skaters, it could be an epic cruising day. You can see some epic stuff)
If commited to rushing down hills and took some hard falls on my hands, don't just wear gloves, but also wrist protectors, cuz it sucks when you main hand is broken.
I am 34 and used to skate. I just got in from a near catastrophic midnight skate. I went down a decent bendy road near my home, and was like "Woo! No sweat. No need to panic. I totally avoided that construction sign in the intersection." Then, around that curve....was a bigger hill and I realized I was now barreling down it gaining speed. I literally just started longboarding today after not really skating for 16 years. My brain was like, JUMP. So I jumped off and had to do the fullest sprint I have ever done since high school... Then, my next problem... Chasing the board as fast as I could as it shot down the road along the curb. I quickly caught up, but couldn't get down to grab it so I kicked it swiftly and luckily is flipped on to its back. You don't truly know yourself until you see how you react in pure adrenaline moments. It was thrilling. But I am definitely scoping my roads out beforehand next time AND bring helmet and protective gear. I easily could have taken a hospital grade beating.
Most important thing is running the right bushings for your weight. Also cone bushings suck, barrels are much more stable. See way too many people running floppy trucks with hard bushings wondering why its so unstable at speed. 😑
I like the small tidy bits of information they give in between riding. Very helpful and will keep these tips in mind when finding a hill to bomb. Thank you
If you need to vent, we're here dude. Skateboarding can be therapeutic, and even if you cannot physically participate, the community is a bright and vibrant one and easy to engage.
LoadedNewsletter thanks, dude. It is less due to physical limitations than the ones in my head. I once hurt myself quite impressively when I was just starting out. Since then I have this fear in my head which stops me from actually taking my beautiful board and just having fun. Instead I look at it and think I should. I sometimes skate a bit with it but the angst stays in the back of my head and prevents me from enjoying it freely. But I think this is something I will get sorted out eventually, if that is what is meant to be. BTW, it is a dervish, a real beauty :-) Edit: I packed my gear so I can take it out for a stroll tomorrow!
I had a pretty gnarly crash one time and broke my arm and wrist and was scared to get on a bored for a couple of years but just recently went out got a board and started down hill again
Do what you love, man. That angst goes away after you get into it more and more. I find that getting lost in music while skating really helps me out. Edit: just saw that this was a year old comment, hope you're doing well!
@@DonWoschto Similar thing happened to me. I'd say start small, like literally bring it in the house and use walls and just get comfortable again. Then I'd bring it outside to my walkway and go up and down that. Starting small and increasing is much easier than trying to get back out there and go back to where you left off
This is one of the best videos for ALL beginner skateboarders! So many great tidbits of advice. I've gotten up about 15mph since I first watched to now 😁 (about a month)
Absolutely! What kinds of topics do you need covered? This will give us a good idea on subjects we might overlook since we have been skating downhill for so long. Some of the minor details become second nature for us and we forget to mention them!
LoadedNewsletter a video about equipment, tucking, cornering and starting coz I've seen some people push their board behind them off the start and just stuff like that. That would be awesome! Thanks. Love you guys.
I agree. Ride it out for as long as you can. I've bailed before and got hurt really bad. Riding it out has been fine for me. Get low, try to do quick, mini carves instead of trying to keep the board straight. I've found out it's much easier to control the wobble by going with it and carve it out. Forcing the board to go straight seems to make the wobble worse. My first fall from speed wobble was so bad that I've dedicated months trying to learn how to control the wobble. Literally loosened my trucks up a lot so that I can get speed wobbles from a slower speed so that the fall won't hurt as bad. Just remember to get low, touch the nose of your board if you have to, don't bail unless there are obstacles coming up.
I really liked your bit about the confidence factor. It sounds cheesy and superficial but it’s 100% real. The more you worry, the more likely it is you’re gonna kiss the pavement. I went down a really steep road on my block. I was doing great about 1/3 through, and then the wind started roaring in my face. The adrenaline wore off and I thought “I could die. If I fall off at this speed, I could legit die.” The board started wobbling underneath me and I freaked tf out lol. I made it down unscathed but I had to stop and sit for a little while because my heart was pounding. I remember watching another kid zoom down a super steep drop and then started hooting and hollering to his friends who were back at the top. He smacked into a brick wall in front of him. I felt the impact.
This helped me so much-today i was going down this hill that I've never went on before, and when I was going down I felt way too much speed and I was wobbling, I always just turn backwards to slow down the speed because usually no one or nothing is behind me, but this time I couldn't because of the speed. But I tried this stop method and it worked really well! I was gonna get hurt terribly if I tried to turn. Thanks this helped a lot!!
Me when I first started conquering hills and freaking out when going fast. Face it. Face your fears don't turn away from it chest out into the hill. Their advice came a long way.
I was just free skating once and found myself on a pretty steep hill going faster and faster on a board not set up for that AT ALL... I'm proud to say even though I got some major death wobbles and went over a little bridge at the end, I didn't die cause I didn't want to bail no matter what. It all worked out and I ended up skating it a few more times because it was so fun!
Ta Nk it’s you don’t need to learn how to go fast, just go down a steep hill. The things they teach you in the video is how to go fast without getting injured
I'm a bit late to the party, but I got a fair share of my longboarding experience from jumping and trying it out. I went down a steep hill at about 25mph. Not the most impressive compared to the amazing things you guys do, but it helped pave a path for my longboarding experience
I wish I had seen this video before I went longboarding today. I'm actually new to it but I was doing pretty good so I decided to go down a pretty large hill, and I made it but I had to use the foot break once or twice. This time I tried it again without the foot break and my trucks were really loose as I didn't know what could happen, so when I felt the wobbles I didn't know what to do and I lost control and I went flying onto my chest and it hurt like hell but atleast it taught me a lesson. 😄
Same thing happened to me 3 days ago with my new board. Got the Dusters Ocean Lovers and well, newbie here bombing a hill... What could possibly go wrong? Got caught by a housewall at about 35 kph-40kph. Big hit on my left side hip and shoulder and a bruised right hand that has left me bedridden for a week. Never had experienced wobbles before so I didn't knew how to handle them. For me, that hill is offlimits (for now) but for sure next time I will take it one step at a time (or maybe practice a lot of sliding haha).
I’ve been skateboarding for 27 years and still ride about 1000 miles per year. I just pre ordered a brake from Vibe Ride. I’m going to bomb hills I’ve been afraid to. Old County Rd. Here I come.
Surprisingly great tips! You detailed it well! I've done downhills when I was a little younger but not with downhill/longboards, just the regular skateboard(trickboard, hate this term), and all that you said - I learned naturally. While you were detailing it, I was having slomo flashbacks.😆
Lol. Wish I would have looked at this video before I went out haha. I just got my longboard in the mail today! (18 June, 2020). First thing I did is I took it out where I live and right to this long gradual downhill without tightening the trucks. Right away I started getting speed wobbles and thought I was going to die lol. For real though, I was legit scared but stayed with the board. Got home, now saw this video and tightened my trucks... after that moment haha
Where you guys live is that normal what i see in the background? Empty, didn't hear any traffic or anything. Or is also a weekend trip going to awesome spots? I'm a city kid and bridges are my mountains! I am very jealous looking at these locations, at the same time i figured it's the reason why i'm not dead yet. :)
The rule of thumb for wheel size and relation to speed goes like this: Bigger = Higher Top Speed / Slower Acceleration Smaller = Higher Acceleration / Lower Top Speed Bigger wheels take longer to get up to speed, but their larger diameter covers more distance per rotation, meaning that will go faster than smaller wheels if the hill will allow it. Smaller wheels cover less distance per rotation, so they're able to get to their top speed much faster. What you may be conflating is the quicker acceleration from the 70mm wheels compared to your old 90mm wheels. Also, since the 70mm wheels have shallower urethane depth, you might be feeling the pavement more than you did on your 90mm wheels, which gives the illusion of feeling like you are moving much faster. If you are bombing hills, we suggest using wheels around the 70mm size since they tend to top out on their roll speed after a little bit. It's safer to learn on and build confidence as you progress to larger hills or larger wheels!
Footbraking is so dangerous. Coleman sliding is the safest way to stop on a skateboard. When you foot brake, you're basically balancing on one foot. If you get wobble, if you hit a rock, if you hit a crack, and you have only one foot on your board? You're gonna eat it, hard. And maybe get seriously injured if you're going any serious speed. If you Coleman slide, you're gonna safely stop, with three points of gravity contact (front and rear wheels, and a hand down) and you can steer the board while you slide. You can also use sliding and drifting to control your speed. Nobody, nobody should be using footbraking while bombing hill if they like keeping their body intact, and staying out of a hospital. The very first thing *anybody* should do before bombing hill, is learn how to slide, and know where, on your board you are using, (and particularly the wheels you are using) the unlock threshold is for a slide. It's the safest way to stop, literally hands down. hehehe
We agree that coleman sliding is a very effective and safe method of stopping or slowing down at high speeds. The only issue is that there is a very steep learning curve to learning how to do this maneuver. Many people who attempt to learn this may be missing certain components on their boards that make it easier to coleman slide, like the lack of spacers in between the bearings, very loose or extra stiff trucks, and even a lack of grip tape. We encourage everyone who wants to bomb hills to wear a helmet and gloves and know how to do a coleman slide, but knowing how to footbrake effectively and efficiently is equally as essential. With a coleman slide, you have just as many variables to worry about when initiating this maneuver. If you hit a crack, you board will catch and send you rocketing off of it and rolling down the hill (which is the worst way to fall). If you hit water or pebbles, you can loose control and end up sliding on your back or into a mailbox or even a car. Some may even accidentally place too much weight on the wrong side of the board, causing them to fly over the top. We've also seen people try to do coleman slides and get their hand/puck caught on a road reflector or manhole or pothole and dislocate their shoulders or sprain their wrist or get their entire slide glove ripped off. With footbraking, you are able to gradually reduce your speed while moving in a straight line, rather than whipping and sliding all across the road in a sometimes unpredictable pattern. Of course, there is a learning curve to footbraking as well, but it is a much easier one to overcome and requires minimal balance and strength and board control compared to coleman sliding. Bombing hills is always dangerous and having an effective way of stopping/slowing down is incredibly important. Having the right gear and knowing different techniques in stopping is essential to live another day to keep riding.
Yo! What are you talking about? I learned how to Coleman slide in an afternoon! Like, maybe if you're learning it in a flat parking lot, but like on an actual steep hill? It's very easy to learn how to slide. If you can carve, put a cutting board on a glove, and place your hand on the ground you can slide. I mean with hard wheels, you can literally take a park board loosen the trucks up to carve with, and if you literally just carve low on a steep hill you're gonna slide. Like the unlock threshold on hard wheels is so low. I learned how to slide in an afternoon! For reals, like this is not that hard. And people have no business bombing hill until they learn how to safely stop unless they wanna get killed or loose some teeth or end up in the hospital. I mean if you're in a flat parking lot, and have super soft, side-set carving wheels? Yeah it's gonna take you forever to learn how to slide that way. Those things want to grip, that's their purpose. But with a steep hill, and rock-hard center-set wheels? You just need gloves and an afternoon. You need four things to learn how to slide (other than gloves): -A board you don't mind tearing the shit out of (and with the grippiest grip tape you can find). -A STEEP-ass hill with no cars where you can shut down for a while (and with good pavement on it), -And rock hard center-set wheels (the slide unlocks very easily). -You also want a pair of pants that can take a beating (like carhart or army surplus) Real easy. Start your carve, make sure you're squatting as low as possible (like you're surfing and trailing your hand in the water), practice putting your hand down, and kick your back foot out. When your board goes flying into the curb try again. It doesn't take long. If you need to, just sit facing downhill, and practice putting your weight on your feet and kicking out the slide with both feet back and forth, forcing the board to slide like it's part of your feet. That helps get the feel of the unlock. Hard wheels make it very easy and safe, and they should be center-sets. I mean even with soft wheels, if you've got something like Abec 11 Grippins? There's a reason why we call em Slippins, those center-sets will do their job and allow you to drift nice and easily (the best place to learn with softies is a parking garage). But really, a steep hill, loose trucks to carve, and hard center set heels are really all you need. Plus gloves of course. The two biggest mistakes people make when learning how to carve are: -No hill (or not a steep one, you really need a STEEP hill, like find yourself a paved cliff.) -And using soft instead of hard wheels.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown on how to coleman slide, Sara. For those reading this comment thread, here is a video we did that goes in depth into the little details of sliding and breaking traction: ruclips.net/video/--34ICM9rU0/видео.html Once again, we agree that coleman slides are a very effective way to slow down, especially once you've mastered how to do them in a controlled fashion. That being said, we wouldn't want to withhold any knowledge or techniques that can assist people in slowing down from great speeds. Everyone is different and some new and old skaters do not have the same control over their balance and weight distribution to learn a technique like the coleman quickly and easily as you can, let alone do it in a real world setting where they would need to loose speed to avoid injury while simultaneously avoiding traffic and obstacles. After spending time teaching new riders over the years, we've seen first hand that some are able to pick up the coleman slide very quickly, while others it takes a little longer. But even if they learned to do the coleman slide or not, we also taught them how to footbrake just to be safe. Everyone is different and having more than one way to stop is very useful when out skating the busy streets. Thanks for listing what is needed to do the slides. You have a very good point in wearing shreddable pants, shorts do no one any favors when learning to coleman. Expect the people who make the shorts, they are happy to have a future returning customer, we suppose.
So this is why I said there's a need for a STEEP hill. A very steep hill will allow someone to unlock a slide in under ten feet or so, due to the hill grade. Which will allow them to kind of "scooch" down hill practicing small slides. The reason why foot braking should not be used when bombing hill, is the speed is too great when doing something like that to effectively stop safely using foot braking. Picture this: Imagine a scenario where you're bombing hill, and you're going to eat it. It's guaranteed in this situation. Option A, is you're standing upright on one foot at 50+ mph, when your board starts to wobble and is going to fly out from under you. When you fall, you're falling like a timber tree, with the top of your torso, hitting the pavement hard, and you're going to tumble really hard, an possibly be seriously injured or even killed. Option B, is you're down low already in a 3 point contact position. You loose control of the board out from under you, but you are quickly able to bring your second hand down too so now you have two hands to help you slide along while your body comes to a stop. It won't be graceful but at least you didn't "fall" you just lost your board. You might loose some skin and tear your pants up pretty bad, but you're likely to be okay. Foot braking is for when you're cruising around the boardwalk, or going for a gentle cruise in flat areas around the neighborhood, or campus, etc. It's not for serious speed. It's not meant for that, and it cannot safely control that. While yes, it's theoretically possible for a good foot braker to stop themselves at high speed, that same skilled foot braker, if they eat it at high speeds is still going to eat it a lot harder, and more dangerously than if they were already down and lost their board doing a coleman slide, with gloved pucks already on contact with the ground. I understand what you're saying about weight distribution, but bombing hill is not a beginner skill. It shouldn't be promoted as though any newb can just pick up a board and day one start bombing hill. Really gentle hills maybe, but for serious speed, they need to know how to Coleman slide. It could save their life.
Not having safety gear, and coming into longboarding after 15 years of freestyle or reg w.e. I am a really good footbreaker. Slides have been hard to learn untill i get gloves lol
You could also use old or crappy bearings that will have more friction making it so you don’t go as fast in the first place. Also small wheels mean a lower top speed but a higher acceleration. Big wheels smaller acceleration but a higher top speed
We have seen old crappy bearings with a lot of friction heat up so much from skating down hills that they actually melted the cores of the wheels they were in. The next thing that happened was the person fell on their face. Using good bearings and learning how to slow down are essential for bombing hills.
Depending on how flexible a board is, you may be able to bring it to some high speeds and still maintain control. It is always better to ride a stiff deck when pushing speed of 30mph+, but usually any speeds within the 25mph range should be manageable if you make sure your trucks aren't too wobbly and loose! Please be sure to wear a helmet and other protective gear if you have it! Falling is a part of skateboarding, so be prepared to make contact with the pavement when you are pushing our limits!
Arbor,landyatchs,loaded,subsonic all make some good quality boards.I believe my landyachs evo is about 9 or 10 plys of maple.Its a very heavy board tho.The smaller Redhawk evo is much lighter.Its still pleanty stiff enough to handle 50+ mph.😂
He's right, I was going fast and got nervous then bailed without realizing it was a bad idea. Unfortunately, I bruised my shoulder bone and scraped my elbow severely leaving behind a permanent scar
I do agree about trying to save yourself instead of freaking out and bailing is good a lot of the time.But one thing about the bail advice and trying to save it, That’s generally how newbies hurt themselves worse, they way over correct and then end up eating shit a lot worse lol. Part of the art learning to skate is learning how to fall well lol.
I just got really bad speed wobbles going down a hill I was going past the speed limit and have really bad road rash, i wasn’t wearing a helmet I’m lucky I didn’t hit my head
speed wobs can come from your base plate being a to high degree, when freeriding I ride 50 degree pairs V2 an if i go to fast on them i get wobs even if I have tight trucks and hard bushings. so for DH I use a 43 baseplate in back and 50 in front.
This is true, but to an extent. Higher degree trucks are inherently more twitchy at high speeds, needing less input from the rider to get the board to turn drastically. However, it comes down to personal preference. Some of our riders are all about low degree trucks for downhill and freeride (Ethan rides 43 degree front and back) others like directional setups (Kalil rides 50 degree front, 35 degree back) and other people like very turny trucks with stiffer bushings (Alberto rides 50 degree front and back). Comes down to what you are used to and comfortable with, but the general rule is lower degree trucks are safer at higher speeds for people just starting out!
Great video. Been fun watching you guys and it's taught me quite a bit. Not sure I agree with the "flexi board" bit though. I bomb hills on my 48" Goddess pintail, and I find it more stable that the board I have that is specifically designed for downhill.
Many of our riders started out riding the classic pintail shapes, specifically the Goddess of Speed from Sector 9. Though this board is a bit out-dated when it comes to all the modern construction techniques and designs, it still works well for bombing hills, MAINLY because the wheelbase is so long and inherently stable. But, at certain speeds, flexy boards become too dangerous for skating big hills. It can still be done, but it takes a lot of attention and care on the rider to make sure they are staying stable. Keep you weight focused near the front truck and you should be fine, just avoid hitting any bumps or lumps in the road so you don't trigger the flex!
I alsi have a tip, if you know you will fall or are falling face first, try to land inti a roll, kind of like parcorists. I dont longboard with a helmet, and this as saved me from some head hits. It also didnt hurt that bad compared to ones where I didnt roll (also no head it)
Depending on the hill, sometimes I'll tighten my trucks until I can't tighten them anymore, and I can still take a hairpin. loose trucks are only good for tricks, and riding around to get places. If there is a massive hill on my way I will always tighten my trucks. I learned my lesson about that maybe a year ago. I was bombing this hill by my house and I forgot to tighten my trucks and I got speed wobbles at the bottom and ate shit going about 25 mph. Needless to say it was quite painful, I still have the ripped jeans from when i died on that hill, I'd say they are my Sunday best
I would like to see something like "Common mistakes...", maybe even multiple videos in that series for different styles of riding. I'm just starting out and there are not many people around to point at my mistakes, on top of that I moved to another country and not everyone in here speaks English, so, yeah, something like that will be helpful.
so when I skateboard to work I HAVE to go done this hill and I usually almost eat shit every time. I try to do foot breaking but it throws me off balance and the wobbling is very real when I get too fast. idk if its because of the wheels I have ( I put small cruiser wheels on my skateboard) or if my bearings are too loose or if its the way I'm standing. plus at the end of this hill is a small intersection so.. idk what to do. but this video did give me some good tips so I'll have to try them out!
Here are a few tips to help out: 1. Make sure you stand on your front foot and footbrake with your back foot. 2. Tighten up your back truck a little bit. About a half turn. 3. Start footbraking from a low speed and brake harder if you start speeding up. Easier to slow down this way, then bombing and then trying to footbrake. 4. Buttboard! Sit on the front of your board, just behind the front truck and footbrake with both of your feet! Hope this helps!
Hope someone can answer me, thanks in advance! I am starting longboarding, I have only skateboarded before. I would want to get downhill board, but is that also good for freeriding/cruising around the city?
I was riding down my street on a skateboard and I was using my toe to slow down and my foot slipped off my board, let's just say that I made it down the hill in a painful way
Hey guys so I'm originally a snowboarder is there anything you guys can tell me to help me get used to the transition? Btw I love your content keep it up
I found a new passion for longboarding. But when I'm done skating for the day my leg that I use to push myself is so sore and hard to move. Can u give me any advice on what shoes to use. ? I hav classic hightop Van's that I use but I feel like itsnot enough padding for comfort when ur foot slaps the concrete! Lmao.
2:00 I wish I could have watched this vid sooner I’m a self taught longboarder and I had to bale doing ~20mph one thing try to go into a roll don’t try to run off it like I did it’s not fun. (I had rocks go into the base of my palm)
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Btw, today this video saved me from a bad fall: I decided to conquer a hill I never tried before, I was going fast, I started to feel wobbles, I thought about a fall that's about to happen and then, SUDDENLY, in my head, I heard Ethan's voice saying "face your fears..." and so did, fall never happened and I had a lot of fun. Thank you, guys!
Whats hardest to come back from is when you go for it with full confidence and are totally in control but a crack or rock nearly kills you. Always wear a helmet
Stoked dude! Stay safe
When I face my fear it tends to smack me in the face a few times before it stops.
Bro had the anime main character plot
@@FumblsTheSniper its always them pebbles
Know your limits. Try to reach them, not exceed them. Especially when beginning.
Yes like anyone know there limits
Today I tried this hill that I underestimated and then speed wobbles kicked in...and now basically I'm wearing road rash 😅😅😅😂😂
Psh! In life you have to push past your limits or else you won't experience new things if you're only limit your self! Know your limits and push pass them! Achieving great things you thought you weren't able to do!
wise words, Good sir!
I actually usually exceed them in order to learn. I've gotten injured two handfuls of times but I don't regret it at all because falling no made me better. If you don't get hurt at least a little bit when you are learning, you aren't learning very fast at all
"wobbles can also come from your confidence" oh well that explains it
You'd be surprised how much of a factor confidence can play in maintaining your stability! When people get scared, they tend to tense up. Though its good to have strong ankles to keep yourself from starting to wobbling, keeping your upper body loose and limber will help you make quick adjustments and cancel out wiggling from the road.
Also, when you aren't confident of your speeds on the hill you are skating down, you will subconsciously lean back, which makes you unstable.
Face your fears and stare gravity in the face!
I learned that the hard way
I tried today and I hadn’t longboard in a while. I definitely get scared and I have to jump out. I also stomp my foot instead of gradually braking. I also need a helmet lol. Thanks for the tips!
Loaded Boards dude 100% it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. People start tripping mentally and it starts to translate physically.
It’s not as fun if you aren’t terrified on the way down :)
To get over wobbles; my technique is to focus on my hips and stomach. Takes my mind off my feet and the board naturally calms down.
That is a good tip! You're core controls a lot of your stability!
The last time I thought I was going to wobble, I knew it was a confidence thing, so what I did was just concentrate on what was further down the road in the distance and I pretended that instead of going downhill, I was merely standing on my board and the world was rotating underneath me. A big thanks to the guy who did the rotating!
hella funny but same time really think about it damn I'm standing on my board while the World Turns beneath me I had a similar experience once on salvia after that I never smoked salvia again having that thought while in mid downhill tuck beginning to feel that settled tug of the speed wobble probably wouldn't be a good day glad it worked out for you though bro ✌
last time i wobbled at the end of a bomb i just screamed like AAAAAA and then it just stopped and i kept going. it didnt wobble too bad cuz the trucks are fairly tight for wheel bite of the pintail shape but it was cool getting out of that
When ever I get speed wobbles I just put my feet tight and I bend my knees a lil and just have confidence. And never panic once you are going down a hill there is no turning back. Just keep cofidence on your self.
I love that I have a pose named after me! 5:27
Jesus Christ you are insulting and making fun of the real Jesus Christ... you should be ashamed!
Ambria-Justyne agreed.
Ambria-Justyne can't take a joke can you?
Ambria-Justyne hes not real anyway
hope its ironic, or pls go back 200 years ago. this was the time people believie in shit :-)
You should also tell them that tightening the back truck more than the front helps. The front truck can be pretty darn loose if u want, as long as the back one is stable! Anyway, trying out different bushing combos is a good idea. Get dialed!
THIS MAN IS RIGHT. Rule of Thumb: Back truck tighter/less turny than your front truck!
Did not know this. Thank you
also turn with your front foot, speed wobbles normally originate from the back truck turning too much
Are you the dude who went hyperspace and left the scene behind in *that* video
Truth
Welp a sad story me and my friend went longboarding off a mountain it was last year so when he tried to slide he went off the hill in to rocks lucky ambulance came and he had broken arm both feet but hes now sitting next to me with our longboards hanged on the wall cause from that time we bought new boards bcs those were bad luck hes so lucky to be alive
Loxyr. Oof
@MossyWater roof 🐶
the bit about how to foot brake correctly was amazing, I've seen a lot of videos mention foot braking, but they never go into enough detail about how to do it for me to feel comfortable doing it. I'll try learning it this way now, thanks!
Precisely
4:37 I got anxiety just from watching that
New to longboard and this happened to me yesterday day. Everything I have learned came from a couple books I have been reading recently. Anyways, the crash led me to this video and I’m currently recovering 😅
Can’t wait to get back on the board
Thanks guys! Your 6 slides with gloves video really gave me the confidence to do downhill (parking structures mostly). I appreciate all of the advice before I bomb mount Everest.
Mount Everest...lol.
No problem! Just be sure to bring an oxygen tank to Everest!
Something that wasn’t so talked about, and that also was so hard to lean, is now so accessible, to like all the masses, you guys, through your series of videos, on the downhill modality of skateboarding, have made it so easy and accessible for all of us, mere humans, to all over the world, not just within the us, disseminating the downhill techniques and all that good stuff that goes along with bombing hills, to all of us, you guys have made history here, and yet you guys are so humble, being so delicate to all the details, so kind, so awesome, thank you guys from loaded Boards, I have almost all of your boards and I love each one of them.
thank you, may the force be with you guys...
Wow, thanks for such kind words! Many of us grew up having to figure things out the hard way: Try something, fall, get back up, try again.
After years and years of road rash and trial an error, we want to help people skate safe and progress faster by teaching everything we have learned!
Let us know if there is something you are interested in learning and we will do our best to cover the subject thoroughly!
usually what i do when foot breaking at high speeds is i kinda squat down, grab the nose of my board (kinda helps prevent speed wobble...kinda) and then i'll have my foot on the road... i squat as if i'm taking a dump..kind of.. also, i don't grab the very tip of the nose but like the sides at the very front, closest to the nose..if that makes sense...? of course if i'm only going like 25mph then i'll foot break the same way you show us here :D
Nice tips.....LOL cool name
Thank you for sharing, it helps...kinda. lol
The pros do this in high speed on the racetrack. Its called brasilian/swiss foot break.
Olav Øye really, it has a name? 😂 that's good to know.
This is good advice! We always called that style of footbraking the Euro-Footbrake, since many racers and downhill riders in the European circuit practice this technique to keep their wheels fresh and grippy for longer!
The key to this technique is lowering you center of gravity by crouching/squatting as low as you can before starting the footbrake. This naturally puts you into a more stable position to remove one of your feet from the board!
Thanks for sharing the tip!
This is a great go to video for people trying to get into the sport, thank you, I love and respect the tails off you ambassadors!
Thanks! We want to make sure people are pushing their limits safely and with the necessary knowledge to tackle new challenges! Be sure to share with any of your friends who are dare devils or thrill seekers!
What I recommend if you’re starting out and wanna try a hill, is to go to the bottom and practice from there, and slowly go up. This is especially useful if you say, can get down the hill but need to turn. Once you get used to that and can get down the hill all fine and well, try other hills but don’t do the same thing. See if you have enough skill to get down that other hill and if you can’t, practice more. Also, being motivated helps. Even small things like being in a good mood, wearing nice clothes, or just feeling confident really help your experience out. Hopefully this helps any new boarders
As a beginner it definitely helps to just feel confident and be in a good mood. Dressing nicely surprised me. I make sure to dress comfortable and for the occasion.
@@ultimatejoe71617 haha yea, I feel as though it doesn’t matter what skill you’re at, if you feel nice and good it’s all that matters. going out on a board feeling negative ruins the experience and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. the best advice to give anyone ever is to just chill out, don’t feel obligated to board every day if you don’t wanna.
So I feel great while riding. But then embarrassing because I’m older and not that good. I mean I have good motor skills from decade of riding motorcycles. So I’m excited to learn. I love the spirit of skateboarding and it’s something I always wanted to try. It’s a cool community of if you fall get up and try again. And I like that.
Confidence is a big one! The first time I tried going downhill, I was anxious about hitting all the pebbles on the ground, especially since construction was recently happening. Luckily, I didn't hit one, and I fixed my wabbling too. It was a lot of fun! Thanks, guys!
literally 15 minutes ago i almost died on my longboard 😂
You’re not living if you don’t almost die once😂
Yo sameee
“ I wanna go fast” Ricky Bobby
There was actually invisible fire all around us that day.
Getting road-rash at 30 mph seriously fricked my knee, hip, fore-arm, and shoulder up. After crashing I didn’t ride for a year and yesterday I picked up my board with one of my old buddies and I realized how epic just cruising was. Going fast is a big part of the sport but, remember longboards are transportation and it’s not about the destination its the journey you take on your board to get there. (If your local forest preserve has paved trails and they permit skaters, it could be an epic cruising day. You can see some epic stuff)
If commited to rushing down hills and took some hard falls on my hands, don't just wear gloves, but also wrist protectors, cuz it sucks when you main hand is broken.
This is a good idea. Wrist protectors will help keep your wrists protected. It's almost as if the name ha something to do with this function
I am 34 and used to skate. I just got in from a near catastrophic midnight skate. I went down a decent bendy road near my home, and was like "Woo! No sweat. No need to panic. I totally avoided that construction sign in the intersection."
Then, around that curve....was a bigger hill and I realized I was now barreling down it gaining speed. I literally just started longboarding today after not really skating for 16 years. My brain was like, JUMP. So I jumped off and had to do the fullest sprint I have ever done since high school... Then, my next problem...
Chasing the board as fast as I could as it shot down the road along the curb. I quickly caught up, but couldn't get down to grab it so I kicked it swiftly and luckily is flipped on to its back.
You don't truly know yourself until you see how you react in pure adrenaline moments.
It was thrilling. But I am definitely scoping my roads out beforehand next time AND bring helmet and protective gear. I easily could have taken a hospital grade beating.
dude that story had me on edge haha. live to tell the tale!
These tutorial videos are exactly what we need right now.
Glad to help! Let us know if there is anything else you would like covered in the future!
I just noticed we got mooned when the poor guy wipes 🤦🏼♀️ 4:38
Image how bad that fecking hurt tho like danggg
his pecker almost flung out too at 4:42 lmao that road pantsed him good 😂😭
Most important thing is running the right bushings for your weight. Also cone bushings suck, barrels are much more stable.
See way too many people running floppy trucks with hard bushings wondering why its so unstable at speed. 😑
Barrel under cone front, same or double barrel on back.
What? Floppy Trucks...🤔
"If you feel like you're going to crash, try to save it" is great advice for the complete rookie.
I like the small tidy bits of information they give in between riding. Very helpful and will keep these tips in mind when finding a hill to bomb. Thank you
I wanted to write something rude so I wouldn't have to feel the self-hate I have for not doing the things I like. I feel so broken.
If you need to vent, we're here dude. Skateboarding can be therapeutic, and even if you cannot physically participate, the community is a bright and vibrant one and easy to engage.
LoadedNewsletter thanks, dude. It is less due to physical limitations than the ones in my head. I once hurt myself quite impressively when I was just starting out. Since then I have this fear in my head which stops me from actually taking my beautiful board and just having fun. Instead I look at it and think I should. I sometimes skate a bit with it but the angst stays in the back of my head and prevents me from enjoying it freely. But I think this is something I will get sorted out eventually, if that is what is meant to be.
BTW, it is a dervish, a real beauty :-)
Edit: I packed my gear so I can take it out for a stroll tomorrow!
I had a pretty gnarly crash one time and broke my arm and wrist and was scared to get on a bored for a couple of years but just recently went out got a board and started down hill again
Do what you love, man. That angst goes away after you get into it more and more. I find that getting lost in music while skating really helps me out.
Edit: just saw that this was a year old comment, hope you're doing well!
@@DonWoschto Similar thing happened to me. I'd say start small, like literally bring it in the house and use walls and just get comfortable again. Then I'd bring it outside to my walkway and go up and down that. Starting small and increasing is much easier than trying to get back out there and go back to where you left off
This is one of the best videos for ALL beginner skateboarders! So many great tidbits of advice. I've gotten up about 15mph since I first watched to now 😁 (about a month)
I am now charging my driveway!
SEND IT!!!! but watch for cars.
uploaded the day after i got back from my first downhill experience
FLINT same!
How did it go?! o_O
For season 4, go over the best gear. Helmets, shoes, pads, ect.
amazing video and tips for beginners. Thank you, I have been searching for a good tutorial on footbreaking.
Im loving these newer vids like these. They are really helping me up my game. Could u guys do beginner racing tips next?
Yes plz do. I do freeride and im going to compete on Mt Panorama and some tips would realy help
Absolutely! What kinds of topics do you need covered? This will give us a good idea on subjects we might overlook since we have been skating downhill for so long. Some of the minor details become second nature for us and we forget to mention them!
Got any specific topics in mind??? We will try our best to cover everything thoroughly!
LoadedNewsletter a video about equipment, tucking, cornering and starting coz I've seen some people push their board behind them off the start and just stuff like that. That would be awesome! Thanks.
Love you guys.
I agree. Ride it out for as long as you can. I've bailed before and got hurt really bad. Riding it out has been fine for me. Get low, try to do quick, mini carves instead of trying to keep the board straight. I've found out it's much easier to control the wobble by going with it and carve it out. Forcing the board to go straight seems to make the wobble worse. My first fall from speed wobble was so bad that I've dedicated months trying to learn how to control the wobble. Literally loosened my trucks up a lot so that I can get speed wobbles from a slower speed so that the fall won't hurt as bad. Just remember to get low, touch the nose of your board if you have to, don't bail unless there are obstacles coming up.
I’m good at longboarding but when I go fast I always get ahead of myself and my one lev is always way too far back and I fall 😂
I really liked your bit about the confidence factor. It sounds cheesy and superficial but it’s 100% real. The more you worry, the more likely it is you’re gonna kiss the pavement.
I went down a really steep road on my block. I was doing great about 1/3 through, and then the wind started roaring in my face. The adrenaline wore off and I thought “I could die. If I fall off at this speed, I could legit die.” The board started wobbling underneath me and I freaked tf out lol.
I made it down unscathed but I had to stop and sit for a little while because my heart was pounding.
I remember watching another kid zoom down a super steep drop and then started hooting and hollering to his friends who were back at the top. He smacked into a brick wall in front of him. I felt the impact.
This helped me so much-today i was going down this hill that I've never went on before, and when I was going down I felt way too much speed and I was wobbling, I always just turn backwards to slow down the speed because usually no one or nothing is behind me, but this time I couldn't because of the speed. But I tried this stop method and it worked really well! I was gonna get hurt terribly if I tried to turn. Thanks this helped a lot!!
Me when I first started conquering hills and freaking out when going fast. Face it. Face your fears don't turn away from it chest out into the hill. Their advice came a long way.
You guys should do a tutorial about what is the best thing to wear when riding downhill.
As in safety wise? Like padding and certain types of clothing?
Or more fashion oriented? Like we could do a walk-off like those Top Model shows!
LoadedNewsletter padding and certain types of clothing to wear when bombing down a hill.
The top model idea is also cool and funny to do though. Lol
@@LoadedBoards please do a video about safety gear and clothing.
Camilo always saving the day!
I was just free skating once and found myself on a pretty steep hill going faster and faster on a board not set up for that AT ALL... I'm proud to say even though I got some major death wobbles and went over a little bridge at the end, I didn't die cause I didn't want to bail no matter what. It all worked out and I ended up skating it a few more times because it was so fun!
I just went down a pretty big hill, on a pennyboard, nearly shit myself.
If you like looser trucks, de-wedging your back truck will help prevent speed wobbles in my experience.
^^^This man speaks truth.
You guys are the best. Funny and informative videos. Just started Long boarding and im stuck on your channel;
It's a good informative video on "SLOWING DOWN" but not "GOING FAST". The title is a little misleading.
Again, the content of it is still good!
i personally learned to go fast by knowing how to slow down safely, i would say that slowing down is one of the keys to go fast.
Ta Nk it’s you don’t need to learn how to go fast, just go down a steep hill. The things they teach you in the video is how to go fast without getting injured
I'm a bit late to the party, but I got a fair share of my longboarding experience from jumping and trying it out. I went down a steep hill at about 25mph. Not the most impressive compared to the amazing things you guys do, but it helped pave a path for my longboarding experience
What kind of helmets are you guys wearing in this video? I’m looking to get one, please lmk!!!!
Enjoyed the video 👍🏼
I had a very bad crash from speed wobble about a week ago, legit slammed my head so bad, thank god I have a bomb ass helmet
Looking forward to this summer guys. See you then
Like your black Vans
I just watched this after going downhill and almost dying
I wish I had seen this video before I went longboarding today. I'm actually new to it but I was doing pretty good so I decided to go down a pretty large hill, and I made it but I had to use the foot break once or twice. This time I tried it again without the foot break and my trucks were really loose as I didn't know what could happen, so when I felt the wobbles I didn't know what to do and I lost control and I went flying onto my chest and it hurt like hell but atleast it taught me a lesson. 😄
Same thing happened to me 3 days ago with my new board. Got the Dusters Ocean Lovers and well, newbie here bombing a hill... What could possibly go wrong? Got caught by a housewall at about 35 kph-40kph. Big hit on my left side hip and shoulder and a bruised right hand that has left me bedridden for a week. Never had experienced wobbles before so I didn't knew how to handle them. For me, that hill is offlimits (for now) but for sure next time I will take it one step at a time (or maybe practice a lot of sliding haha).
What a beautiful setting for a video! What mountains are those?
You can also use a zipper hoodie, button down or flanel and hold it open to slow you down as an air brake!
5:43 "wait he didn't even do that in the movie" *gasp* existential crisis intensifies
Ethan really likes the Marvel movies. He forever lives in shame for getting the reference wrong.
Omg yea I Jamed a rake into my stomach the other day 😵😂
I’ve been skateboarding for 27 years and still ride about 1000 miles per year. I just pre ordered a brake from Vibe Ride. I’m going to bomb hills I’ve been afraid to. Old County Rd. Here I come.
Surprisingly great tips! You detailed it well! I've done downhills when I was a little younger but not with downhill/longboards, just the regular skateboard(trickboard, hate this term), and all that you said - I learned naturally. While you were detailing it, I was having slomo flashbacks.😆
Me watching this after going down a hill not knowing how to stop so me jumping of and rolling and bashing my head
Lol. Wish I would have looked at this video before I went out haha. I just got my longboard in the mail today! (18 June, 2020). First thing I did is I took it out where I live and right to this long gradual downhill without tightening the trucks. Right away I started getting speed wobbles and thought I was going to die lol. For real though, I was legit scared but stayed with the board. Got home, now saw this video and tightened my trucks... after that moment haha
I only foot brake to slow down but I find after a certain speed it seems super sketch to do so. That's why I feel I need to learn heel /toe sliding.
Where you guys live is that normal what i see in the background? Empty, didn't hear any traffic or anything. Or is also a weekend trip going to awesome spots?
I'm a city kid and bridges are my mountains!
I am very jealous looking at these locations, at the same time i figured it's the reason why i'm not dead yet. :)
You guys give some good advice, but what about wheel size? I'm noticeably riding faster when I switched from 70 mm to 90 mm.
The rule of thumb for wheel size and relation to speed goes like this:
Bigger = Higher Top Speed / Slower Acceleration
Smaller = Higher Acceleration / Lower Top Speed
Bigger wheels take longer to get up to speed, but their larger diameter covers more distance per rotation, meaning that will go faster than smaller wheels if the hill will allow it.
Smaller wheels cover less distance per rotation, so they're able to get to their top speed much faster.
What you may be conflating is the quicker acceleration from the 70mm wheels compared to your old 90mm wheels. Also, since the 70mm wheels have shallower urethane depth, you might be feeling the pavement more than you did on your 90mm wheels, which gives the illusion of feeling like you are moving much faster.
If you are bombing hills, we suggest using wheels around the 70mm size since they tend to top out on their roll speed after a little bit. It's safer to learn on and build confidence as you progress to larger hills or larger wheels!
Footbraking is so dangerous. Coleman sliding is the safest way to stop on a skateboard. When you foot brake, you're basically balancing on one foot. If you get wobble, if you hit a rock, if you hit a crack, and you have only one foot on your board? You're gonna eat it, hard. And maybe get seriously injured if you're going any serious speed. If you Coleman slide, you're gonna safely stop, with three points of gravity contact (front and rear wheels, and a hand down) and you can steer the board while you slide. You can also use sliding and drifting to control your speed. Nobody, nobody should be using footbraking while bombing hill if they like keeping their body intact, and staying out of a hospital.
The very first thing *anybody* should do before bombing hill, is learn how to slide, and know where, on your board you are using, (and particularly the wheels you are using) the unlock threshold is for a slide. It's the safest way to stop, literally hands down. hehehe
We agree that coleman sliding is a very effective and safe method of stopping or slowing down at high speeds. The only issue is that there is a very steep learning curve to learning how to do this maneuver. Many people who attempt to learn this may be missing certain components on their boards that make it easier to coleman slide, like the lack of spacers in between the bearings, very loose or extra stiff trucks, and even a lack of grip tape.
We encourage everyone who wants to bomb hills to wear a helmet and gloves and know how to do a coleman slide, but knowing how to footbrake effectively and efficiently is equally as essential.
With a coleman slide, you have just as many variables to worry about when initiating this maneuver. If you hit a crack, you board will catch and send you rocketing off of it and rolling down the hill (which is the worst way to fall). If you hit water or pebbles, you can loose control and end up sliding on your back or into a mailbox or even a car. Some may even accidentally place too much weight on the wrong side of the board, causing them to fly over the top. We've also seen people try to do coleman slides and get their hand/puck caught on a road reflector or manhole or pothole and dislocate their shoulders or sprain their wrist or get their entire slide glove ripped off.
With footbraking, you are able to gradually reduce your speed while moving in a straight line, rather than whipping and sliding all across the road in a sometimes unpredictable pattern. Of course, there is a learning curve to footbraking as well, but it is a much easier one to overcome and requires minimal balance and strength and board control compared to coleman sliding.
Bombing hills is always dangerous and having an effective way of stopping/slowing down is incredibly important. Having the right gear and knowing different techniques in stopping is essential to live another day to keep riding.
Yo! What are you talking about? I learned how to Coleman slide in an afternoon! Like, maybe if you're learning it in a flat parking lot, but like on an actual steep hill? It's very easy to learn how to slide. If you can carve, put a cutting board on a glove, and place your hand on the ground you can slide. I mean with hard wheels, you can literally take a park board loosen the trucks up to carve with, and if you literally just carve low on a steep hill you're gonna slide. Like the unlock threshold on hard wheels is so low. I learned how to slide in an afternoon! For reals, like this is not that hard. And people have no business bombing hill until they learn how to safely stop unless they wanna get killed or loose some teeth or end up in the hospital.
I mean if you're in a flat parking lot, and have super soft, side-set carving wheels? Yeah it's gonna take you forever to learn how to slide that way. Those things want to grip, that's their purpose. But with a steep hill, and rock-hard center-set wheels? You just need gloves and an afternoon.
You need four things to learn how to slide (other than gloves):
-A board you don't mind tearing the shit out of (and with the grippiest grip tape you can find).
-A STEEP-ass hill with no cars where you can shut down for a while (and with good pavement on it),
-And rock hard center-set wheels (the slide unlocks very easily).
-You also want a pair of pants that can take a beating (like carhart or army surplus)
Real easy. Start your carve, make sure you're squatting as low as possible (like you're surfing and trailing your hand in the water), practice putting your hand down, and kick your back foot out. When your board goes flying into the curb try again. It doesn't take long. If you need to, just sit facing downhill, and practice putting your weight on your feet and kicking out the slide with both feet back and forth, forcing the board to slide like it's part of your feet. That helps get the feel of the unlock. Hard wheels make it very easy and safe, and they should be center-sets.
I mean even with soft wheels, if you've got something like Abec 11 Grippins? There's a reason why we call em Slippins, those center-sets will do their job and allow you to drift nice and easily (the best place to learn with softies is a parking garage). But really, a steep hill, loose trucks to carve, and hard center set heels are really all you need. Plus gloves of course.
The two biggest mistakes people make when learning how to carve are:
-No hill (or not a steep one, you really need a STEEP hill, like find yourself a paved cliff.)
-And using soft instead of hard wheels.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown on how to coleman slide, Sara. For those reading this comment thread, here is a video we did that goes in depth into the little details of sliding and breaking traction: ruclips.net/video/--34ICM9rU0/видео.html
Once again, we agree that coleman slides are a very effective way to slow down, especially once you've mastered how to do them in a controlled fashion.
That being said, we wouldn't want to withhold any knowledge or techniques that can assist people in slowing down from great speeds. Everyone is different and some new and old skaters do not have the same control over their balance and weight distribution to learn a technique like the coleman quickly and easily as you can, let alone do it in a real world setting where they would need to loose speed to avoid injury while simultaneously avoiding traffic and obstacles.
After spending time teaching new riders over the years, we've seen first hand that some are able to pick up the coleman slide very quickly, while others it takes a little longer. But even if they learned to do the coleman slide or not, we also taught them how to footbrake just to be safe. Everyone is different and having more than one way to stop is very useful when out skating the busy streets.
Thanks for listing what is needed to do the slides. You have a very good point in wearing shreddable pants, shorts do no one any favors when learning to coleman. Expect the people who make the shorts, they are happy to have a future returning customer, we suppose.
So this is why I said there's a need for a STEEP hill. A very steep hill will allow someone to unlock a slide in under ten feet or so, due to the hill grade. Which will allow them to kind of "scooch" down hill practicing small slides.
The reason why foot braking should not be used when bombing hill, is the speed is too great when doing something like that to effectively stop safely using foot braking.
Picture this: Imagine a scenario where you're bombing hill, and you're going to eat it. It's guaranteed in this situation.
Option A, is you're standing upright on one foot at 50+ mph, when your board starts to wobble and is going to fly out from under you. When you fall, you're falling like a timber tree, with the top of your torso, hitting the pavement hard, and you're going to tumble really hard, an possibly be seriously injured or even killed.
Option B, is you're down low already in a 3 point contact position. You loose control of the board out from under you, but you are quickly able to bring your second hand down too so now you have two hands to help you slide along while your body comes to a stop. It won't be graceful but at least you didn't "fall" you just lost your board. You might loose some skin and tear your pants up pretty bad, but you're likely to be okay.
Foot braking is for when you're cruising around the boardwalk, or going for a gentle cruise in flat areas around the neighborhood, or campus, etc. It's not for serious speed. It's not meant for that, and it cannot safely control that. While yes, it's theoretically possible for a good foot braker to stop themselves at high speed, that same skilled foot braker, if they eat it at high speeds is still going to eat it a lot harder, and more dangerously than if they were already down and lost their board doing a coleman slide, with gloved pucks already on contact with the ground.
I understand what you're saying about weight distribution, but bombing hill is not a beginner skill. It shouldn't be promoted as though any newb can just pick up a board and day one start bombing hill. Really gentle hills maybe, but for serious speed, they need to know how to Coleman slide. It could save their life.
Not having safety gear, and coming into longboarding after 15 years of freestyle or reg w.e. I am a really good footbreaker. Slides have been hard to learn untill i get gloves lol
Cant wait to get these
You could also use old or crappy bearings that will have more friction making it so you don’t go as fast in the first place. Also small wheels mean a lower top speed but a higher acceleration. Big wheels smaller acceleration but a higher top speed
We have seen old crappy bearings with a lot of friction heat up so much from skating down hills that they actually melted the cores of the wheels they were in. The next thing that happened was the person fell on their face.
Using good bearings and learning how to slow down are essential for bombing hills.
Great video. What about carving out speed wobbles? Doesn't that help?
Man, now i'm gonna freak out about my 44" being too flexible. Imma get me a stiffer board next season..
Depending on how flexible a board is, you may be able to bring it to some high speeds and still maintain control. It is always better to ride a stiff deck when pushing speed of 30mph+, but usually any speeds within the 25mph range should be manageable if you make sure your trucks aren't too wobbly and loose!
Please be sure to wear a helmet and other protective gear if you have it! Falling is a part of skateboarding, so be prepared to make contact with the pavement when you are pushing our limits!
Arbor,landyatchs,loaded,subsonic all make some good quality boards.I believe my landyachs evo is about 9 or 10 plys of maple.Its a very heavy board tho.The smaller Redhawk evo is much lighter.Its still pleanty stiff enough to handle 50+ mph.😂
@@richardkaskonas5676 kryptonics makes pretty ok boards from the 90s
Bombing is crazy.
I bombed a hill fell at 40ish miles per hour was extremely scary.
Thankfully i survived didnt hit my head.
Landed on my ribs
I just did the same thing except I hit my head now I have a concussion
About time to tighten that helmet! ⛑
He's right, I was going fast and got nervous then bailed without realizing it was a bad idea. Unfortunately, I bruised my shoulder bone and scraped my elbow severely leaving behind a permanent scar
I do agree about trying to save yourself instead of freaking out and bailing is good a lot of the time.But one thing about the bail advice and trying to save it, That’s generally how newbies hurt themselves worse, they way over correct and then end up eating shit a lot worse lol. Part of the art learning to skate is learning how to fall well lol.
I just got really bad speed wobbles going down a hill I was going past the speed limit and have really bad road rash, i wasn’t wearing a helmet I’m lucky I didn’t hit my head
You are indeed! Road rash sucks and hurts a lot, but hitting your head is no joke. Be sure to take some safety precautions next time!
speed wobs can come from your base plate being a to high degree, when freeriding I ride 50 degree pairs V2 an if i go to fast on them i get wobs even if I have tight trucks and hard bushings. so for DH I use a 43 baseplate in back and 50 in front.
This is true, but to an extent. Higher degree trucks are inherently more twitchy at high speeds, needing less input from the rider to get the board to turn drastically. However, it comes down to personal preference. Some of our riders are all about low degree trucks for downhill and freeride (Ethan rides 43 degree front and back) others like directional setups (Kalil rides 50 degree front, 35 degree back) and other people like very turny trucks with stiffer bushings (Alberto rides 50 degree front and back).
Comes down to what you are used to and comfortable with, but the general rule is lower degree trucks are safer at higher speeds for people just starting out!
thanks
Helpful thanks. Need to learn to drift now
Your vids are actually better than little girls who dont know how to ride with longboards thx for the tips 😂😂😜
Thanks! Though we aren't sure what channels you are talking about lol
@@LoadedBoards oh theres videos of girls that seem to be in elementary school riding a longboard backward and then rant about something :v 😫😂
U guys should come to South Africa and have an event here .here are some beautiful hills
Great video. Been fun watching you guys and it's taught me quite a bit. Not sure I agree with the "flexi board" bit though. I bomb hills on my 48" Goddess pintail, and I find it more stable that the board I have that is specifically designed for downhill.
Many of our riders started out riding the classic pintail shapes, specifically the Goddess of Speed from Sector 9. Though this board is a bit out-dated when it comes to all the modern construction techniques and designs, it still works well for bombing hills, MAINLY because the wheelbase is so long and inherently stable.
But, at certain speeds, flexy boards become too dangerous for skating big hills. It can still be done, but it takes a lot of attention and care on the rider to make sure they are staying stable. Keep you weight focused near the front truck and you should be fine, just avoid hitting any bumps or lumps in the road so you don't trigger the flex!
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Linc3to right!
We weren't feeling so well afterwards...
Enjoy your fall if it happens. Everyone hurts. Everyone fails. Welcome to the club. Get back up and keep cruising.
Yo that Loaded shirt is sic!!
what about the tuck and hip position? really cool vid!
Really helpful 🤙🏼
Thanks! Skate safe, but skate FAST!
Awesome video!
I alsi have a tip, if you know you will fall or are falling face first, try to land inti a roll, kind of like parcorists. I dont longboard with a helmet, and this as saved me from some head hits. It also didnt hurt that bad compared to ones where I didnt roll (also no head it)
Awesome vid 😎
Depending on the hill, sometimes I'll tighten my trucks until I can't tighten them anymore, and I can still take a hairpin. loose trucks are only good for tricks, and riding around to get places. If there is a massive hill on my way I will always tighten my trucks. I learned my lesson about that maybe a year ago. I was bombing this hill by my house and I forgot to tighten my trucks and I got speed wobbles at the bottom and ate shit going about 25 mph. Needless to say it was quite painful, I still have the ripped jeans from when i died on that hill, I'd say they are my Sunday best
Hope Loaded TV will be back for season 4 ;)
Thanks! We look forward to it! Got any suggestions of content to feature? Any questions you want answered?
I would like to see something like "Common mistakes...", maybe even multiple videos in that series for different styles of riding. I'm just starting out and there are not many people around to point at my mistakes, on top of that I moved to another country and not everyone in here speaks English, so, yeah, something like that will be helpful.
That intro it TIGHT!
so when I skateboard to work I HAVE to go done this hill and I usually almost eat shit every time. I try to do foot breaking but it throws me off balance and the wobbling is very real when I get too fast. idk if its because of the wheels I have ( I put small cruiser wheels on my skateboard) or if my bearings are too loose or if its the way I'm standing. plus at the end of this hill is a small intersection so.. idk what to do. but this video did give me some good tips so I'll have to try them out!
Here are a few tips to help out:
1. Make sure you stand on your front foot and footbrake with your back foot.
2. Tighten up your back truck a little bit. About a half turn.
3. Start footbraking from a low speed and brake harder if you start speeding up. Easier to slow down this way, then bombing and then trying to footbrake.
4. Buttboard! Sit on the front of your board, just behind the front truck and footbrake with both of your feet!
Hope this helps!
Brakeboard rat....is a board with disc brakes on it.I bought one just for places that were to sketchy to ride safe.
Super gnarly fall at 4:38
Hey, thanks for the tips 🛹
Any suggestions for shoes ?
Hope someone can answer me, thanks in advance! I am starting longboarding, I have only skateboarded before. I would want to get downhill board, but is that also good for freeriding/cruising around the city?
Also carve out of death wobble works as well
Make sure to carve very wide and slowly!
I was riding down my street on a skateboard and I was using my toe to slow down and my foot slipped off my board, let's just say that I made it down the hill in a painful way
@3:38 I can't believe I'm not the only one!
Awesome video ty 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Hey guys so I'm originally a snowboarder is there anything you guys can tell me to help me get used to the transition? Btw I love your content keep it up
I found a new passion for longboarding. But when I'm done skating for the day my leg that I use to push myself is so sore and hard to move. Can u give me any advice on what shoes to use. ? I hav classic hightop Van's that I use but I feel like itsnot enough padding for comfort when ur foot slaps the concrete! Lmao.
3:40 I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT😂
2:00 I wish I could have watched this vid sooner I’m a self taught longboarder and I had to bale doing ~20mph one thing try to go into a roll don’t try to run off it like I did it’s not fun. (I had rocks go into the base of my palm)