People have ZERO idea how easy it was to cheat back then. They actually ALLOWED these "pros" to bring their own peripherals to tournaments. Meaning, all you have to do is store your cheat in either your keyboard, mouse, or headphones, start up the game, hit the inject buttons and have your private cheat ready for you in a tournament. Used for split-second info logging into where enemies are and humanized aimbot. The rest of it is skill but their cheats give them an edge obviously.
Not only did this guy cheat with aimbot and ESP injected on tournament PCs from either his mouse or keyboard, but he also literally admitted to taking adderall before tournaments matches. This dude cheated in every way possible and people STILL somehow give him the benefit of the doubt. At this point, Shroud could pull up a cheat menu on stream and people would still be in denial.
glad someone's brining this stuff to light - honestly always thought Shroud was suspect. Him and his buddy Justin had been talking for years about how hard it is it catch a cheater that knows what they're doing. Probably because they'd been doing it for years.
shroud has so many afterlocks it's nuts. always will be one of the biggest cheaters who got away with it. so shameful how much money he's made. i think he's legit on valorant now though he's trash compared to his cs days
I like that you don’t «confirm» anything, and explain how you’re just skeptic. That’s great. But I would really like to see you look at someone with great aim, and who 100% you know isn’t cheating, and see if you find these anomalies there too. You need something to compare it to.
I agree, he seems like he knows what he's talking about but at the same time, these could all just be coincidences from very specific clips that can also happen to legit players. I'll only believe that all these pros are cheating when I see a side by side comparison from another pro he knows isn't cheating and he shows the anomalies not occuring. There still are some really sus clips out there from pros though.
@@godmage2585 Cant have too many coincidences. Old school legit players have none fishy clips, and this so called NA godlike players have tons of fishy clips: tenz, shroud, subroza, etc.
@@FlippedFaith Yeah, I have since changed my opinion from the time of that comment after watching a video of a cheat developer going in-game and showing solid proof that shox/flusha and others are cheating. I do believe there are a lot of pro cs players out there that cheat/are currently cheating.
Public cheats can cost hundreds of dollars a month. Imagine how much private cheats can cost. Why do you think is paying for them? Maybe the streamers making millions a year?
Really soon the fanboys are going to jump in and hate on you. In my opinion Shroud is one of the biggest problems of the gaming community, because many people really believe "He is just gifted"
Its so easy to fool people. I play mobile games mostly and i know some players who cheat and have 4+ million subscribers. I never used cheat on any game but seeing things like these makes me wonder if i should cheat too.....but then again if i get success by cheating i dont think i will be satisfied cuz for me i think there will always be some guilt that im fooling people.
The guy is blatantly cheating in almost every game he plays on his stream aswell. There's dozens of 20+ minute videos of him cheating. I really don't understand how he still has sponsorship contracts.
you know something thats called fanatic fanbase? they are calling him human aimbot XD there is no way people can have robotic aims, we are humans we have flaws are body structure have flaws but nah. shroud locks and kids call him human aimbot
@@crowzreal dunno man, I think playing video games for tens of thousands of hours on the same sensitivity for a decade could give you a robot like accuracy, no? You know how they say it takes 10,000 hours to master a skill? He's played way more than that.
@@alfairsoft For sure. Why wouldn't a multi-millionaire such as Shroud spend tens and tens of thousands on one or several professional private cheat developers? Can't believe people defend the guy so hard.
@@skunkpiss EVERYONE WITH 1000 + HOURS IN THE GAME KNOWS THAT HE ISNT CHEATING THE ONLY THING I SAW IN THIS VIDEO ARE PREFIRING ANGLES HIM COULDNT DECIDING WHO TO SHOOT AND HIS HIGH SENS WHAT YOU GUYS CALL AN AIMLOCK INFO LOCK FIRST INFO LOCK DOESNt EXCIST
He made a career out of being an online fps player/streamer who toggles every 2 kills (and was always trash on LAN), that kid Symfuhny who plays warzone did the same shit. Pretty much toggles sometimes makes an impossible kill, says he is not cheating that he is legit even if he started playing shooters like 2 days ago, and people believe it. Nobody is legit no more, it seems selling yourself to make money will always be more important.
@@clipsuu2998 he was 100% cheating like there is no doubt about it. But he gaslight everyone confronting him about it: "you're a noob, delusional, I'm laughing at you". Imagine you are being called out for cheating. Would you react by menacing the person calling you out? All those star players were cheaters, and they left exactly at the time they reinforced the anti cheat measures. Coincidently. Like all those clips.
@@MrFlejon While i have no opinion about shroud cheating as i am not entirely convinced, i will however give my two cents on his retirement timing. Shroud retired in 2017 (officially 2018) after having several personally lackluster lan events (despite having good results overall), what makes this interesting is that his declining results and overall retirement coincided with larger events hardening their lan anticheat protocols (past midway through 2017) where they started not only forcing players to use pre approved peripherals (i.e admins will check said devices and keep them locked away when they are not playing which has been a thing since 2014 after the whole kQly drama) but also playing STRICTLY on offline servers with no internet whatsoever. These changes coincided with several new RCE exploits being found where you could literally inject cheats via the steam workshop and workshop maps (one of these was found a decade ago and plugged, but several more have surfaced since then and some of which still work today)... you see SEVERAL notable players at this time suddenly not playing as well anymore when said changes were in effect, and ever since there have been dramatic changes to overall play styles as a whole. You can take the whole 2020 spectating scandal into consideration as well, as teams were willingly and knowingly cheating for months/years had no regrets doing so until they were actually caught. Further more.. shrouds return to valorant in 2022 coincided (i.e 4-5 months before his sudden return to pro play) with a specific DMA vendor releasing their new firmware that is till this day still undetectable... this might be nothing, but i find the timing extremely strange as the vast majority of DMA vendors had to that point been detected within a couple of months and the rest within a day or two. This would have no bearing on his lan play in valorant, but again the timing is odd.
he has one of the lowest sensitivities and still wiggles onto targets in any fps game and you can see that his arm is only moving slightly. a lot of pubg clips and blackout clips from back in the day are so obv
I remember seeing that one vid of him locking on instantly to a speedhacker in PUBG in ways that just weren't humanley possible and knew right then that he wasn't legit.
The absolute *lack* of people coming over here and trying to debunk this a week later- compared to all other comments- is so telling of selective attention. Children, in other words, don't wanna face the truth.
@@StHappyfaces you dude are so stupid the only thing i saw in this video are prefires his high sens and him couldnt decing who to shoot please stop spreading lies and misinformation around
its true，just like BODYbuilding, all pro player use drugs, to keep them pro. and this will make more and people y attention to the industry chain， and pay for it
is anyone who believes this stuff actually good at cs? i guarantee any part of the video can be explained by simple cs logic that anyone with even a couple hundred hours in the game would understand.
is anyone who doesn't believe this stuff actually not cheating? i guarantee every part of the video can be explained by simple hacks that anyone who isn't hacking themselves would understand.
Even if we set aside the clips, this guy was so mediocre at LANs that it boggles my mind how he is regarded as some god at fps. He ticks all the boxes and his whole persona is build around been insanely accurate and if proven to cheat I can see fat lawsuits for fraud and in ideal world jail time. Bad thing is this is so hard to prove and any company that would go for it would face insane backlash from all sides that is more hassle than worth.
by company i guess you mean game developers or sponsors. they know its happening and they let it happen. if the streamers are popular the game is making money - theyre making money. behind the scenes its always about money.
@@kamn1 Yes. More in line of Microsoft/Mixer or Amazon/Twitch. But it would be so hard to prove and in the end not that profitable for them- monetary and image wise.
He was xantares of NA, online god but bottom at lan. I find it hard to believe that someone's skill level would drop so drastically when playing at tournament. At least when you have already played on few and have some experience.
@@gale7682 The difference peekers advantage makes is very understated in online games; at pro-level LAN, you're dealing with people with equal to similar aiming skills and equal reflexes, you can't just run out and pull reddit clips all day, considering that was all shroud knew how to do, it was no wonder he became passive after getting shut down a few times, and barely made any impact on LAN games.
1:35 is wrong : the mouse/crosshair isn't "teleporting", this is a freeze of the demo -> the enemy is freezing too... Also you shown that Valve said disabling the interpolation could result in jittery views sometimes. Maybe that's the reason?
Sure, but cheats also have the ability to corrupt demos, fake lag, etc. Like @Gale said, he's still locking onto the target then immediately pulling off after the glitch. He's still controlling the recoil of the gun on the lock, then when he pulls away you see the recoil decay on the right side of the screen (view_recoil_tracking_1)
@@THEc0ncept I don't see any lock considering he's off the target before the freeze, then when the freeze ends he's leaving the target's head but we haven't been able to see if the crosshair stayed on the head and for how long. I know about hacks faking lag but I've never heard of hacks corrupting demos, especially by freezing the server. That does not mean it's impossible but I would like to see a proof. About 5:22 I don't really see any reason why he would aim at Tarik through the wall on purpose, except maybe because he's changing position but he's not doing bhop... Weird. However you said he locks on Tarik as soon as Tarik is no longer dormant. This is wrong, Tarik was already moving and never stopped.
I really dont know what is there even suspicious dude ask me anything i will explain Okay for fuck sake i watched the video and as i can see you are all shitty ass SILVERS BELIVING THIS GUY RIGHT HERE EVERYSINGLE THING ASK ME ANYTHING I WILL EXPLAIN THE CLIPS THERES IS NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HELLO???? ASK ME ANYTHING I WILL EXPLAIN THE CLIPS
Its no secret Shrouds cheating, or was cheating. While I will admit I'm not sold on these clips in particular, I've seen blatant clips of him cheating before this video. Either way, good job, I applaud you for trying to shed some light on the pro scene, Its got to be rough dealing with the naysayers.
@@Nelex5000 when you don't look into the facts of everything and blindly accept everything and of course he uses macros like a no recoil macro got the evidence as well so I'll send it to you if you would like
@@Nelex5000 ruclips.net/video/lCwX4B2apkc/видео.html yup I'm delusional even though the evidence is right here and the man literally cheats and you 12 year olds accept it but it's alright though words of advice think before you speak and look up the facts before you spout out nonsense child ;)
@@regriefing1807 no he’s not cheating and if you say the second clip was blatant your shit at cs go.... first sees the kid in front and shoots realizes that he has time know because he is behind the car checks his left behind smoke to see if there is anyone there... someone is there and he kills them then looks for the guy behind car again but the guy above kills him
I proof since jears he is cheating. He is the biggest hacker of all time. Fans from shroud dont will see that. His hacks a 100% visible but all thinking its unhuman reaction..
Because this video is about Shroud, I'll add something more here. THE c0ncept. You are doing super important job. As a father, I find this whole phenomenon of cheating and no one getting caught very harmful to our youth. It teaches unethical behaviour without consequences at very young age. Couple years ago I was playing MM with some random teens. According to their voice they were 12-14 years old. We were losing and this other teen asked openly his friend to turn aimbot on. I asked them why they were cheating. Of course I was answered "for winning" and "shut the fuck up". Without parting with this kind of behaviour models, at some point these individuals end up being real life cheaters, criminals or corrupted officials. In regular sports, we don't have this kind of problem. Decisions of playing fair or not are made at much more mature age. At least I can't imagine anyone selling steroids to 13 year old. Hard work and training are rewarded and results of cheating are publicly discussed. Of course there was cheating in 1.6 and other online games when I was teenager. It was different, no money or fame involved. It was somewhat practical pranking. Something comparable to throwing firecrackers to your neighbours doorstep. Cheats were free and you got caught easily. Today it's different. Lot of money involved. Lot of these kids glorifying these false idols cheat seriously to become ones. Media and e-sports industry is definitely helping them. I live in Finland and we have a great example going on here at the moment. This 18 years old player Jamppi is suing Valve over VAC ban. Well good luck with that. He's banned from Valve events because they find his other years ago VAC banned account. Guy of course explains that account was bought for his friend. Yeah, maybe Santa Claus played with it. Alarming thing here is that public opinion and media here support his claims and considers ban unfair because guy was so young at the time. What the fuck! Even guys father helps him with lawsuit. As a guys father, I would have spanked him instead :) I really hope and believe that at some point, some ex-pro discloses this shit and gives our youth proper guidance.
As it is with every community that exists most people only see worst parts since cheaters stay mainly hidden from the rest of the community,most of us don't cheat to win mm, we cheat to have fun most of us are coding there own cheats or altleast tried it at some point in time, the true cheaters mainly hvh(hack vs hack) in non-prime or in community servers, i started cheating out of frustration that valve isn't doing anything about it, after 4 years i have coded a few cheats learned a lot about reverse engineering and how pc work (low level), CSGO is such a cheating ground because you don't have to bypass the anti-cheat to make advanced cheats, there are countless guides, reverse engineering is super easy due to valve posting source SDK's online (even tho they are diffrent, and now with cstrike15 you basicly have the source code), tldr. CSGO is great to learn gamehacking, most people that are cheating in front of general public are script kiddies that have nothing to do with most cheaters
It would be good work, if he would actually stop lying and misleading about many of these occurrances. And stop conveniently ignoring any valid criticism and spouting weird conspiracy-nut bullshit about masks and the corona virus etc. Wouldn't be surprised if he is a flatearther as well and blames the jews for everything since everything he posts and writes has this same run-of-the-mill conspiracy nut flair to it. Also don't forget he still has his video up, where he accuses a random reddituser of using lan level cheats after he downloaded some of his esea demos, which has insanely average gameplay in them. I can literally go in to my own demos and find countless examples of "infolocking", edgelocking", "aftershakes" etc. Curious thing is tho, i dont cheat. Very weird. Maybe TheC0ncept should rename himself to TheLiar. Sounds more true as well. Because he doesn't have a concept of reality, thats for sure. @GeneralOfTheOne You literally take a SINGLE experience in your matchmaking history and stretch it out to fit ur skewed worldview. You advocate domestic violence. You literally sound like any old generation, whining about how everything was better in the past and the youth of today is corrupted and beyond saving, because of some incredibly cherrypicked examples, that aren't even remotely true. I have familiarized myself with the topic of pros cheating, ive talked to cheatdevelopers and let them explain to me many of the mechanics of how cheat works, ive seen uncountable amounts of "suspect clips" and videos. And 99.9% of them are trash, people in it dont know what they are talking about and are basically just explaining how they dont know anything. And theConcept is one of them. Best example is how he is using r_drawothermodels 2 to show when an enemy gets networked. LMAO. That is wrong on such a basic level (modelrendering IN A DEMO has literally nothing to do with when clients recieve information about enemies whereabouts) its painful to watch how people take it seriously.
@@lr0nY just search for project cocaine, if so much money is on the table why would no one pay extra to have the edge whistle the concept isn't the best and some of the things he points out are demo bugs since lossless compresion to demos was added not so long ago,concept is making educated guesses, also remember that foresaken was using a free cheat, A FREE CHEAT, if he was able to cheat with a detected cheat, what's the odds of other people cheating with custom made cheats just search around. If the possibilites are here what's the problem I have almost 1k hours on my main on cheats i coded in a month, just imagine what people coding cheats for 3/4 years can do
@@bartekburmistrz8679 I have seen Ko1ns uploads of project cocaine when they happened, nothing new there. And you seem to think that i assume the proscene to be 100% legit, which is not true. But im also not a conspiracy nut making up my own evidence and lying to the (mostly retarded) community of people who think all of the pros are cheating, whatever they call themselves. I guess /r/vacsucks is a name for them. I am aware of all these things you tell me. But im also of the opinion that many of the things these communities make up is just straight up wrong and clearly retarded. "infolocks" for example are fucking useless when u have a million more stealthy ways of gaining information on enemies whereabouts. Sound ESP, stealthy UI elements (netgraph, fps counters)even crowdcheating. "Infolocks" happen in legit ways ALL the time, and the vacsucks "community" latches onto those, since after that u only need ur good old trusty confirmation bias to "prove" that anyone is cheating.
no one will agree to these being hacks or cheats but deep down we all know every greatness comes with a bit of cheats... no one is so skilled or has such amazing gamesense that he can exactly pin point the location of the player behind a solid object... its sad to say the least
I don’t think these are convincing, but I do think Shroud uses aimbots. I wish I could find the clip, but he had a lock on a player where the player jumped by accident and his crosshair was perfectly locked on to the player’s head during the jump. It was on mirage, I’ll never forget it. It was the moment I realized he was cheating. Sad stuff.
His entire twitch saw it too and blew up with “VAC”. It was the most blatant lock I ever saw. He quickly looked at the chat and then never acknowledged it. He was default A site shooting a guy jungle... I’ll never forget it.
Not sponsored. He make a shitton of money, way more than any CSGO pro's. He can afford the best cheats in the world for an amount which is relatively similar to the a normal guy paying his monthly internet fee.
Maybe he cheated on the pro CSGO scene but probably not on stream, there is no reason for that and multigame hacks do not exist. You clearly have no idea about how hacks are made to say stuff like that. The best proof that he is good and probably never cheating on stream is the fact he often plays games only him have access to due to partnerships so hacks can't exist yet, and he's always very good on these new games too. Or when he installs a new game while streaming due to the chat who wants him to play it.
Damien Engemann i know much more than you think. Cheating providers developing the whole cheat engine concept so you can use it on a lot of games with the same game engine.
@@Quatuux How long do you think it would take an experienced private cheat developer to decompile a new game & find the offsets..? I'm guessing not long since a few scrubs had an aimbot for Valorant shortly after the beta released - www.reddit.com/r/VACsucks/comments/fwwwhi/for_those_already_praising_valorant_anticheat/ Private cheats can cost $15k-$20k initially, plus a monthly fee, plus a % of any prize money & social media income. If I was shroud's cheat developer, I would have cheats for as many games as possible...because I'm making money off of people watching him play like a god in a new game. PUBG for example...that's how shroud got a big as he did.
Can u watch demo of some legit Player? I really want to know that this things like that isnt showing in legit Player demos it Will be nice contrast and comparison for some of us
@@THEc0ncept i have some idea they are a lot of youtubers that have like 8,9 k in the cs go and they are really good at the game Maybe Just Maybe you can finde some u know clips etc and compere to the guy like shroud or other pros :)
if pros cheat on lan, im not calling anyone out but, if they do cheat like that, i can only imagine average faceit game where is only new accounts who rip money from legit premium players and faceit doing nothing, big companies like faceit cheating face off with unregulated service.
In faceit it's normal to evade a clear hacker by not joining the game and taking a ban. Happens quite often but many times somebody else will announce and take a ban so you don't have to. There's probably more subtle hackers as well but at least they don't completely ruin your game with some 100% hs 5 kdr bullshit that the most obvious do. While faceit has some extra anti-cheat measures it's still far from perfect. If you want to see yourself then go play at 4am when it's usually the worst time to play.
I answered your other comment on "How Accurate is GOTV???" - I don't have a Niko video, I have some clips of him in a few different videos though. Which clip are you talking about?
Funny thing is that i called him out on live stream when he was playing pubg and i was instantly banned from chat. I watched a clip where i jumped out of a window and on his way down locked onto a guys head with a 357 magnum and 1 shots the player dead. He has been cheating for a long time now but too many stupid people defend him and call him a goat. Even the doc called him out on it
has this guy been banned yet? the cbble scene alone is a big big laugh and yes i played pro scene at the early stage of go. does he ever show his mouse movements ? i already know, no. the cbbl scene alone with the random on body flicks for no reason made me laugh so hard, this cs scene has become a mere joke that hacking trash like this is able to compete more than 1 game LOL
You could tell Shroud was cheating just through psychology alone. Every time he had an even remotely sus clip he'd always react in his face and say something or chuckle to distract from how sus it was. He had cheater behavior before even taking into account how many ridiculous clips he has.
not sure what mm rank you are but none of these scream blatant cheating. I've played a lot of csgo competitively both in matchmaking and faceit, and all I really see in these clips is good crosshair placement and prefires. You can't make these assumptions that shroud has more info than he lets on without looking into anything else, i.e. info from teammates and the fact that in half of these clips he's prefiring corners he already knows enemies have peeked him from. That aside, I have created csgo cheats - both for hvh and legit hacking (tho i obv don't cheat on my main, mostly in hvh servers). I'm sure an extremely expensive LAN cheat would cast a ray towards a player's hull once they are no longer dormant to check for visibility before locking onto them. You can even see the momentum in his mouse movement as he clearly overshoots - and to be fair he does play on a fairly high sens, around about ~1200eDPI or thereabout, whereas the average pro is anywhere from 400-900eDPI. If that was a smooth aimlock, there would be no momentum or inertia at all in his movement - it would move onto the player's hull and stick onto it. edit: it's also funny that you call him out for an aimlock in one of the clips where he's clearly tracking around the wall. I'm pretty sure a multipoint aimbot wouldn't lock onto the lowest pixel of a player's feet (where it's guaranteed to miss) through multiple unpenetrable walls. You can clearly see his crosshair is still snapped to the wall. The clip where he slightly wallbangs that AWP player through the box is also completely legit lol. Past that box is an extremely common spot for a player to sit. Shroud already has the info where the player is because of them jumping and firing a shot (through the smoke mind you, why haven't you exposed him yet?) at his teammate. In that situation I wouldn't sit around, I'd prefire the exact same spot he did. All in all, pretty pathetic seeing a low level player calling out a pro for cheating lol.
@@rewer7817 29:46 - looks like an acceptable distance to spot small movements. Absolutely no context to the clip anyway (it's in 720p and has fucking awful bitrate for a start), and the player easily could have been looting or jiggling beforehand. By the time shroud was about to scope in their head would have been easily visible. Looks like a distance I'd be able to spot an enemy easily too besides. 46:55 is funny because it's a doctored clip anyway. If you can show me the original VOD maybe I'd believe it :) - but the enemy's animation state changes quite dramatically when you compare it to the supposed 'aimlock' - looks like the guy cut a few frames out expecting nobody to see any difference. Funny that people are doctoring clips to try and """prove""" a pro is cheating, get over yourselves lol. not everyone better than you is a hacker
@@StHappyfaces only said one obviously doctored clip where the entire vod including the cam randomly freezes until the crosshair is on an enemy's head was - but sure twist my words. won't bother replying anymore, keep crying gold nova noobs
sounds like a good business plan.. help a twitch streamer get big by helping him be "good" and then get a cut from his stream subs and donation..i saw another video 1 year old how he snap onto a target that was behind a wall and shot..
@@kingeling silver SHUT THE FUCK UP HE PROBABLY DOESNT EVEN WATCH SHROUD JUST LIKE ME I DONT WATCH HIM AND ONLY THING I SAW ARE PREFIRES HIM COULSNT DECIDING WHO TO SHOT ETC NOONE OF WHAT I SAW ARE CHEATS fucking noob
Ognjen Pesic I’ve cheated in cs for 3 years and none of what this guy is saying is true lmao. And wtf is an edge lock. I’ve use the best cheats Available for raging and legit cheating and this guy is clueless
Some scrubs had an aimbot within a few hours of Valorant beta being launched. How long do you think it takes for an experienced, private cheat developer (or team of developers) to decompile a new game and find the offsets...?
THE c0ncept idk man I’m not a shroud fan but I find it very hard to believe that he has had cheats for every single game for the past however long he has been playing games competitively. I think that he plays these games so much that lucky stuff like this is bound to happen eventually. If he was using cheats these clips would be nonstop when in 99% of his games he is really good but not hitting crazy shots like this.
What convinced me is watching him play halo. A dogsht easy ass game. And he sucks at it. He doesnt do all this crazy mouse movement when he plays that game. Hes just trash at arena fps.
hahaha jep, fl0m used it on day 1 on shroud's stream in CS2 beta edit: clips.twitch.tv/FairWimpyOxSuperVinlin-2SzL6cUmx2xBJ7kS - 1st lock on the 12th second onto a guy on A that will come CT-base afterwards. 2nd lock on the 28th second on the same guy. And it's also the way he and shroud reacts to it that makes it obvious that every pro cheats.
Obvio que estavam de cheat, mas sei porque você tá aqui, porque eles amassaram os seus idolos, que deixa te falar, também já usaram cheat, ESPECIALMENTE O FALLEN.
If my Patrons ask me to. Yes, in my opinion they're cheating...everyone's cheating. The entire scene is riddled with private cheats. You can't compete against aimbots, you have to be perfect
Valve doesn't want people to know that almost the entire cs go scene is cheating. This would mean a huge amount of money lost and the destruction of a fanbase. How would the cs go community react if s1mple were baned? They won't make it public and are not triying to stop this. If they really wanted to fight against cheats, they would have stoped it long time ago.
You know that these bot matches wont get into overwatch? So you have to cheat in actual valve matchmaking to get banned. You kinda played yourself there buddy.
they don't have to shroud admitted he knows what high level hacks cost and he was right. he also said we all are using them.... but of course he said it in a way that he could laugh off as a joke. we all know there is truth in jest/
the first problem is occurence , you clip only games you need to take proof , the second prob is who are you to make accusation when you don't know pro principe
I didnt see anything sus here? Ive pulled off more sus things.. does that mean im cheating? no lmao. And before someone calls me a shroud fanboy, no i dont watch shroud but ive watched these "shroud is hacking" videos and like 90% of those videos is nothing suspicious at all whilst those other 10% that does look sus is nothing more than just that. Sus things do happen when you play, dont act like you've never randomly one tapped someone through smoke or a wall. And whats with this "edge locking" ? 5:03 he didnt lock onto any edge at all?
This is crazy XD. You only got 6 min of clips out of thousands of hours of him playing games. This isnt any "evidence" at all. None of these "infolocks" are useful to shroud in any way. There is no logic here
@@THEc0ncept a few games is still a couple of hours of gameplay while 6 minutes of repeating a couple "infolocks" isnt much if he was really cheating. this small amount of info or "aimlock" would not help shroud enough to get to where he is now. he even dies in some clips while "locking" on people
Everything is situational based..multiple things can happen in one game, & in some games barely anything will happen. There's more than what I showed, these clips are the more sketchy moments. Also, cheats don't keep you from dying...especially when the other people are cheating too
@@THEc0ncept so why would he cheat if it doesnt help him? You're making no sense. If barely anything happens it's because pros are legit and you are just witch hinting for no reason as you can not fathom the fact that pros are just really good at video games without use of external software. Muscle memory is scientific and once you spend all those hours training mouse movement to your aim an aimlock will mess it up.
@@Evan-xs8ts "how can he be cheating if he dies?" classic. can't believe you even responded to him, but i'll bite, too. "aimlock will mess (my thousands of hours playing and training) up." yes, it does. you can see in the last clip, after killing the first guy, rather than holding the angle, he looks at a "random" part of the wall. he doesn't show the full clip, but shroud then forces the aimbot off the target, which sends his mouse far left and up making his aimbot look even more obvious, which gets him killed. a legit player would just hold the angle or get behind cover to reload/reset, or maybe check CT if they had more info.
next video in recommended : linus tech tips "does higher fps make you a better gamer". In it you see shroud with superhuman reaction and skills on a setup that is not his. So i doubt now...
@@THEc0ncept they werent his pc's, and i doubt that he would download them while he wasnt paying attention, then also turn them off when others play on the same pc minutes later.
Yea this guy just needs content. Its obvious in his videos he doesnt have any real evidence. If he had some sort of credible information to share then this video wouldn't only have 4k views since it would be getting shared around... but no one is sharing it for obvious reasons lmfao
@@CherryZ there are definitely cheaters in the pro scene. don't be a fool. i'm not sure every single one of them are cheating but there are definitely cheaters. so many have been caught and there is no real interest in catching them. every time one of them gets outed it damages the business. they don't want to find out.
Shroud aka clown streamer is the Lance Armstrong of gaming world. So many proof seeing him cheating but he and his fanboy denies it and people defending him. What a looser, people who defends him is also looser. F*CK YOU PEOPLE !!
When noob makes video... lol Explain me how he could be cheating while decade and not being caught any time in every games he plays He is just good (and believe me, there are tons of better players) Even myself when I watch my own match on cs go I have the feeling that i am hacking.
1. 2013- 2016 hacking, when you could cheat for low amount of money, bcs there was not a good AC anywhere (faceit AC was created in 2016 - 2017) 2. For e.g schneider (fcking major winner xD) was using private version of polish famous cheat back then called Organner Framework, which cost was arround 60$ a month: watch?v=aeAMyljvsAQ 3. So shroud in 2013 - 2014 was using simmilar cost cheat that schneider was using ( and was winning major with it LUL). Bcs he was using it, somebody noticed him and thought he is good ( LUL), so he was contracted by some NA organizations, then was standing in complexity, then got a fulltime contract in Cloud9. 4. He was 19 -20 at that time and probably never was earning money before, so his first fulltime job was actually playing counterstrike for some NA organizations. 5. He got his first money and he had to start thinking about how can he still manage to cheat online or even offline. 6. 2016 year was crucial for CS:GO, faceit AC apperead and a lot of "good players" got banned instantly. Not sure but ESEA was working on their AC as well. 7. So shroud had to think about buying cheats, or hiring his private cheat coder, to be sure that he can cheat at these platforms or even at lan. 8. Average salary for playing cs in NA was good enough, for him to be able to do that. 9. 2017, shroud is moved to bench in Cloud9 and started streaming for Cloud 9, cheating on stream in CS:GO got him a lot of viewers, he didn't expect that for sure. 10. After organization saw his succes, they quickly recontracted him as streamer ( he had a contract for another 1 year in Cloud9, so they organization did that bcs they saw a money potentiall in shroud, even if they got like 20% of his stream earning that was still huge a lot of money) 11. Shroud seeing how much money he is earning from stream, he decides to keep cheating on stream, mostly CS:Go back then. Later on he is thinking about playing other games, but he has some problem that he is thinking about. "What if i play other shooter game without cheats and people will notice im bad and will think i was cheating in CS:GO?" 12. Shroud decides to hire a private cheat coder, just for himself. Shroud is so unsure if he can trust him, that he is paying him 50% of his earnings, just to be sure he won't expose him and that he can trust him. 13. Shroud coder ( let's name him Jerry), started his work with private PUBG cheats, the first game that Shroud was commited after CS:GO. 14. Shroud is starting to play PUBG with Jerry cheats, everyone on his stream are so hyped for his AMAZING SKILL. Everything is going well. 15. 2018, shroud contract with Cloud 9 ended. 16. Shroud is trying to find sponsors just for him self and he's done it. 17. Shroud is keep streaming and streaming, cheating in PUBG like a devil, finally he is earning 3 times more money then he was earning by streaming in Cloud9. 18. He is making contract with Jerry, that Jerry will get 40% of his earning for the next 10 years, if he provides shroud with private cheats for every game that shorud wants. 19. Forgot to mention, that Jerry must be really god at coding, he can't be an average IT student with 0 expirience, he must be one of the best coders that exist on this planet. 20. Years are passing, shroud is still cheating in every game he plays, thanks to Jerrys cheats. He knows Jerry won't expose / betray him, coz of the contract he made with him. 21. Who would batray the guy, that pays you 150.000$ ( at least) a month? THE END HAPPY END.
It's not defamation if you can provide facts. It's not that he is saying that shroud MIGHT be cheating, he even can explain in detail what is going on and that's a fact. Defamation my ass.
People have ZERO idea how easy it was to cheat back then. They actually ALLOWED these "pros" to bring their own peripherals to tournaments. Meaning, all you have to do is store your cheat in either your keyboard, mouse, or headphones, start up the game, hit the inject buttons and have your private cheat ready for you in a tournament. Used for split-second info logging into where enemies are and humanized aimbot. The rest of it is skill but their cheats give them an edge obviously.
CS lan events with massive prizes today still allow everyone to bring their own mouse and keyboards.
Looking at IEM cologne today...
This shroud guy is one of the most blatant ones. Should be banned from the internet.
This game is filled with cheaters to its core.
Its completely unplayable from that.
Not only did this guy cheat with aimbot and ESP injected on tournament PCs from either his mouse or keyboard, but he also literally admitted to taking adderall before tournaments matches. This dude cheated in every way possible and people STILL somehow give him the benefit of the doubt. At this point, Shroud could pull up a cheat menu on stream and people would still be in denial.
he takes adderall everyday look at his body lol
glad someone's brining this stuff to light - honestly always thought Shroud was suspect.
Him and his buddy Justin had been talking for years about how hard it is it catch a cheater that knows what they're doing.
Probably because they'd been doing it for years.
shroud has so many afterlocks it's nuts. always will be one of the biggest cheaters who got away with it. so shameful how much money he's made. i think he's legit on valorant now though he's trash compared to his cs days
I like that you don’t «confirm» anything, and explain how you’re just skeptic. That’s great. But I would really like to see you look at someone with great aim, and who 100% you know isn’t cheating, and see if you find these anomalies there too. You need something to compare it to.
I agree, he seems like he knows what he's talking about but at the same time, these could all just be coincidences from very specific clips that can also happen to legit players. I'll only believe that all these pros are cheating when I see a side by side comparison from another pro he knows isn't cheating and he shows the anomalies not occuring. There still are some really sus clips out there from pros though.
@@godmage2585 Cant have too many coincidences. Old school legit players have none fishy clips, and this so called NA godlike players have tons of fishy clips: tenz, shroud, subroza, etc.
@@FlippedFaith Yeah, I have since changed my opinion from the time of that comment after watching a video of a cheat developer going in-game and showing solid proof that shox/flusha and others are cheating. I do believe there are a lot of pro cs players out there that cheat/are currently cheating.
Public cheats can cost hundreds of dollars a month. Imagine how much private cheats can cost. Why do you think is paying for them? Maybe the streamers making millions a year?
Theyre freemasons (illuminati) so,, yeah theres that.
@@mongol33tthey are in video games industry too?
@@Demiurgesecret they?
Really soon the fanboys are going to jump in and hate on you. In my opinion Shroud is one of the biggest problems of the gaming community, because many people really believe "He is just gifted"
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I meannnnn he kinda is
I mean if you have an iq lower than room temperature like him and you and other people beliving this
Anyone with brains know he's hacking. He's been hacking for so long he probably thinks it's ok and it's skill he has. Delusional
@@muumuumu...
this guy is like the biggest cheater of all time. Across multiple games and still so famous.
Its so easy to fool people. I play mobile games mostly and i know some players who cheat and have 4+ million subscribers. I never used cheat on any game but seeing things like these makes me wonder if i should cheat too.....but then again if i get success by cheating i dont think i will be satisfied cuz for me i think there will always be some guilt that im fooling people.
@@akshay9602 exactly, I don't understand how these people can live with it.
it all boils down to how real you are with yourself. nothing else matters.
I consider him famous in the same way a high profile criminal is. I actively dont purchase any products that sponsor him.
The guy is blatantly cheating in almost every game he plays on his stream aswell. There's dozens of 20+ minute videos of him cheating. I really don't understand how he still has sponsorship contracts.
you know something thats called fanatic fanbase? they are calling him human aimbot XD there is no way people can have robotic aims, we are humans we have flaws are body structure have flaws but nah. shroud locks and kids call him human aimbot
@@crowzreal Also called being denial
@@crowzreal dunno man, I think playing video games for tens of thousands of hours on the same sensitivity for a decade could give you a robot like accuracy, no?
You know how they say it takes 10,000 hours to master a skill? He's played way more than that.
@@katto1937 It's not his real aim, watch his recent tournaments on which he doesn't have his own setup and you will see how painfully average he is ^^
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i also suspect shroud to be cheating in other games. he cheated in pubg and cod black ops 4
100% shroud has been cheating since his pro days before cloud 9
@@alfairsoft For sure. Why wouldn't a multi-millionaire such as Shroud spend tens and tens of thousands on one or several professional private cheat developers? Can't believe people defend the guy so hard.
@@skunkpiss your stupidity is actually amazing
@@skunkpiss EVERYONE WITH 1000 + HOURS IN THE GAME KNOWS THAT HE ISNT CHEATING THE ONLY THING I SAW IN THIS VIDEO ARE PREFIRING ANGLES HIM COULDNT DECIDING WHO TO SHOOT AND HIS HIGH SENS WHAT YOU GUYS CALL AN AIMLOCK INFO LOCK FIRST INFO LOCK DOESNt EXCIST
@@ognjenpesic7008 Right.....High sensitvity...next you'll say he just has a good gaming chair...
shroud is one of the most blatant cheaters there ever was. and he was outed for cheating in PubG. so there's that.
he was outed from pubg for riding a freaking flying car. lol! get your facts straight.
He made a career out of being an online fps player/streamer who toggles every 2 kills (and was always trash on LAN), that kid Symfuhny who plays warzone did the same shit. Pretty much toggles sometimes makes an impossible kill, says he is not cheating that he is legit even if he started playing shooters like 2 days ago, and people believe it. Nobody is legit no more, it seems selling yourself to make money will always be more important.
@@sofarsogod shroud isn’t cheating you’re just mad symfuhny has been playing forever lol
@@clipsuu2998 he was 100% cheating like there is no doubt about it.
But he gaslight everyone confronting him about it: "you're a noob, delusional, I'm laughing at you".
Imagine you are being called out for cheating. Would you react by menacing the person calling you out?
All those star players were cheaters, and they left exactly at the time they reinforced the anti cheat measures. Coincidently. Like all those clips.
@@MrFlejon While i have no opinion about shroud cheating as i am not entirely convinced, i will however give my two cents on his retirement timing.
Shroud retired in 2017 (officially 2018) after having several personally lackluster lan events (despite having good results overall), what makes this interesting is that his declining results and overall retirement coincided with larger events hardening their lan anticheat protocols (past midway through 2017) where they started not only forcing players to use pre approved peripherals (i.e admins will check said devices and keep them locked away when they are not playing which has been a thing since 2014 after the whole kQly drama) but also playing STRICTLY on offline servers with no internet whatsoever.
These changes coincided with several new RCE exploits being found where you could literally inject cheats via the steam workshop and workshop maps (one of these was found a decade ago and plugged, but several more have surfaced since then and some of which still work today)... you see SEVERAL notable players at this time suddenly not playing as well anymore when said changes were in effect, and ever since there have been dramatic changes to overall play styles as a whole.
You can take the whole 2020 spectating scandal into consideration as well, as teams were willingly and knowingly cheating for months/years had no regrets doing so until they were actually caught.
Further more.. shrouds return to valorant in 2022 coincided (i.e 4-5 months before his sudden return to pro play) with a specific DMA vendor releasing their new firmware that is till this day still undetectable... this might be nothing, but i find the timing extremely strange as the vast majority of DMA vendors had to that point been detected within a couple of months and the rest within a day or two.
This would have no bearing on his lan play in valorant, but again the timing is odd.
Been waiting this for a while.
Same, hadn't seen something so comical in a while
he has one of the lowest sensitivities and still wiggles onto targets in any fps game and you can see that his arm is only moving slightly. a lot of pubg clips and blackout clips from back in the day are so obv
His sens is not low man
His sens was high asf? lol
lol his sens is actually higher than average
Valorant too bro!
To be fair, I play very low sens and my aim is still shaky af
I remember seeing that one vid of him locking on instantly to a speedhacker in PUBG in ways that just weren't humanley possible and knew right then that he wasn't legit.
Bro it's just his expensive chair/s
The absolute *lack* of people coming over here and trying to debunk this a week later- compared to all other comments- is so telling of selective attention. Children, in other words, don't wanna face the truth.
@@StHappyfaces ahhahahaha omfg i am actually for the first time i have been in this coments laughing
@@StHappyfaces you dude are so stupid the only thing i saw in this video are prefires his high sens and him couldnt decing who to shoot please stop spreading lies and misinformation around
@@StHappyfaces everyone with 1000+ hours and knowledge of the game knows he isnt cheating
its true，just like BODYbuilding, all pro player use drugs, to keep them pro. and this will make more and people y attention to the industry chain， and pay for it
is anyone who believes this stuff actually good at cs? i guarantee any part of the video can be explained by simple cs logic that anyone with even a couple hundred hours in the game would understand.
i am LEM and I know there is a huge problem in the pro scene.
I was S ESEA, I've played with shroud and n0thing and stew... I can guarantee you that they cheat, or at least used to...
is anyone who doesn't believe this stuff actually not cheating? i guarantee every part of the video can be explained by simple hacks that anyone who isn't hacking themselves would understand.
@@FinalStooge pics or didnt happen
Thank you
Very analytical and informative video! Love that you were unbiased in going over the info. Please keep it up!
great video and great clips!
Thanks Luis!
Good vid once again. The second clip is just blatant one time after the other. when are the next ones coming out? :)
My patrons will vote in about a week for the next public video
Do you really think shroud cheat? Do you know how much he have to risk? He doesn't cheat lmao
@@illusion6129 Do you really think olympic champions
dope? Do you know how much they have to risk? They don't dope lmao
@@rewer7817 ruclips.net/video/u1qf9TlFTl4/видео.html Shut your mouth, kid.
Even if we set aside the clips, this guy was so mediocre at LANs that it boggles my mind how he is regarded as some god at fps. He ticks all the boxes and his whole persona is build around been insanely accurate and if proven to cheat I can see fat lawsuits for fraud and in ideal world jail time. Bad thing is this is so hard to prove and any company that would go for it would face insane backlash from all sides that is more hassle than worth.
by company i guess you mean game developers or sponsors. they know its happening and they let it happen. if the streamers are popular the game is making money - theyre making money. behind the scenes its always about money.
If you watch his CODMW Launch Event Tournament for example, you will see how painfully average he is when he doesn't have his own computer.
@@kamn1 Yes. More in line of Microsoft/Mixer or Amazon/Twitch. But it would be so hard to prove and in the end not that profitable for them- monetary and image wise.
He was xantares of NA, online god but bottom at lan. I find it hard to believe that someone's skill level would drop so drastically when playing at tournament. At least when you have already played on few and have some experience.
@@gale7682 The difference peekers advantage makes is very understated in online games; at pro-level LAN, you're dealing with people with equal to similar aiming skills and equal reflexes, you can't just run out and pull reddit clips all day, considering that was all shroud knew how to do, it was no wonder he became passive after getting shut down a few times, and barely made any impact on LAN games.
1:35 is wrong : the mouse/crosshair isn't "teleporting", this is a freeze of the demo -> the enemy is freezing too...
Also you shown that Valve said disabling the interpolation could result in jittery views sometimes. Maybe that's the reason?
It still kinda sketchy as he locks almost perfectly trough a wall and he knows that he can't shoot trough forklift.
Sure, but cheats also have the ability to corrupt demos, fake lag, etc. Like @Gale said, he's still locking onto the target then immediately pulling off after the glitch. He's still controlling the recoil of the gun on the lock, then when he pulls away you see the recoil decay on the right side of the screen (view_recoil_tracking_1)
"The things you said are actually the opposite - I'm right and you're wrong."
Cool story - He's still cheating.
@@THEc0ncept Have you ever played CSGO?
@@THEc0ncept I don't see any lock considering he's off the target before the freeze, then when the freeze ends he's leaving the target's head but we haven't been able to see if the crosshair stayed on the head and for how long.
I know about hacks faking lag but I've never heard of hacks corrupting demos, especially by freezing the server. That does not mean it's impossible but I would like to see a proof.
About 5:22 I don't really see any reason why he would aim at Tarik through the wall on purpose, except maybe because he's changing position but he's not doing bhop... Weird. However you said he locks on Tarik as soon as Tarik is no longer dormant. This is wrong, Tarik was already moving and never stopped.
At 1:08 when he gets a minor flashbang,you can I’m pretty sure see him lock onto the enemy through the wall.
this is sad, how easly pro scene can cheat, fps games have no future
There are cheaters in every competitive game ever invented get over it
@@stopcryingalready clash royale 😎
yeah naughty shroud aimboting baby i mean i dont get why is this guy not caught and whos running this scam but i bet they making lot of money
Dude when are you coming back
Stellar work as ever man, keep 'em at it.
I really dont know what is there even suspicious dude ask me anything i will explain
Okay for fuck sake i watched the video and as i can see you are all shitty ass SILVERS BELIVING THIS GUY RIGHT HERE EVERYSINGLE THING ASK ME ANYTHING I WILL EXPLAIN THE CLIPS THERES IS NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HELLO????
ASK ME ANYTHING I WILL EXPLAIN THE CLIPS
@@ognjenpesic7008 1vs1 me if im silver lol...
Thanks for the work you do
how do we 'cancel' shroud for his obvious cheating?
Its no secret Shrouds cheating, or was cheating. While I will admit I'm not sold on these clips in particular, I've seen blatant clips of him cheating before this video. Either way, good job, I applaud you for trying to shed some light on the pro scene, Its got to be rough dealing with the naysayers.
this is why yall bronzes and slivers
This.
@@Nelex5000 when you don't look into the facts of everything and blindly accept everything and of course he uses macros like a no recoil macro got the evidence as well so I'll send it to you if you would like
@@regriefing1807 nah im not delusional.
I'll give you an advice, take your schizo pills 🤡
@@Nelex5000 ruclips.net/video/lCwX4B2apkc/видео.html yup I'm delusional even though the evidence is right here and the man literally cheats and you 12 year olds accept it but it's alright though words of advice think before you speak and look up the facts before you spout out nonsense child ;)
@@regriefing1807 no he’s not cheating and if you say the second clip was blatant your shit at cs go.... first sees the kid in front and shoots realizes that he has time know because he is behind the car checks his left behind smoke to see if there is anyone there... someone is there and he kills them then looks for the guy behind car again but the guy above kills him
Love reading these comments although they surely aren't real :DD
True 😅
I also think that but when i read them i lose my braincells
Shroud AimLock Anomalies!
I proof since jears he is cheating. He is the biggest hacker of all time. Fans from shroud dont will see that. His hacks a 100% visible but all thinking its unhuman reaction..
So many streamers are cheaters it's just not shroud
Because this video is about Shroud, I'll add something more here.
THE c0ncept. You are doing super important job. As a father, I find this whole phenomenon of cheating and no one getting caught very harmful to our youth. It teaches unethical behaviour without consequences at very young age.
Couple years ago I was playing MM with some random teens. According to their voice they were 12-14 years old. We were losing and this other teen asked openly his friend to turn aimbot on. I asked them why they were cheating. Of course I was answered "for winning" and "shut the fuck up". Without parting with this kind of behaviour models, at some point these individuals end up being real life cheaters, criminals or corrupted officials.
In regular sports, we don't have this kind of problem. Decisions of playing fair or not are made at much more mature age. At least I can't imagine anyone selling steroids to 13 year old. Hard work and training are rewarded and results of cheating are publicly discussed.
Of course there was cheating in 1.6 and other online games when I was teenager. It was different, no money or fame involved. It was somewhat practical pranking. Something comparable to throwing firecrackers to your neighbours doorstep. Cheats were free and you got caught easily. Today it's different. Lot of money involved. Lot of these kids glorifying these false idols cheat seriously to become ones. Media and e-sports industry is definitely helping them.
I live in Finland and we have a great example going on here at the moment. This 18 years old player Jamppi is suing Valve over VAC ban. Well good luck with that. He's banned from Valve events because they find his other years ago VAC banned account. Guy of course explains that account was bought for his friend. Yeah, maybe Santa Claus played with it. Alarming thing here is that public opinion and media here support his claims and considers ban unfair because guy was so young at the time. What the fuck! Even guys father helps him with lawsuit. As a guys father, I would have spanked him instead :)
I really hope and believe that at some point, some ex-pro discloses this shit and gives our youth proper guidance.
i love you :)
As it is with every community that exists most people only see worst parts since cheaters stay mainly hidden from the rest of the community,most of us don't cheat to win mm, we cheat to have fun most of us are coding there own cheats or altleast tried it at some point in time, the true cheaters mainly hvh(hack vs hack) in non-prime or in community servers, i started cheating out of frustration that valve isn't doing anything about it, after 4 years i have coded a few cheats learned a lot about reverse engineering and how pc work (low level), CSGO is such a cheating ground because you don't have to bypass the anti-cheat to make advanced cheats, there are countless guides, reverse engineering is super easy due to valve posting source SDK's online (even tho they are diffrent, and now with cstrike15 you basicly have the source code), tldr. CSGO is great to learn gamehacking, most people that are cheating in front of general public are script kiddies that have nothing to do with most cheaters
It would be good work, if he would actually stop lying and misleading about many of these occurrances. And stop conveniently ignoring any valid criticism and spouting weird conspiracy-nut bullshit about masks and the corona virus etc. Wouldn't be surprised if he is a flatearther as well and blames the jews for everything since everything he posts and writes has this same run-of-the-mill conspiracy nut flair to it. Also don't forget he still has his video up, where he accuses a random reddituser of using lan level cheats after he downloaded some of his esea demos, which has insanely average gameplay in them. I can literally go in to my own demos and find countless examples of "infolocking", edgelocking", "aftershakes" etc. Curious thing is tho, i dont cheat. Very weird. Maybe TheC0ncept should rename himself to TheLiar. Sounds more true as well. Because he doesn't have a concept of reality, thats for sure.
@GeneralOfTheOne
You literally take a SINGLE experience in your matchmaking history and stretch it out to fit ur skewed worldview. You advocate domestic violence. You literally sound like any old generation, whining about how everything was better in the past and the youth of today is corrupted and beyond saving, because of some incredibly cherrypicked examples, that aren't even remotely true.
I have familiarized myself with the topic of pros cheating, ive talked to cheatdevelopers and let them explain to me many of the mechanics of how cheat works, ive seen uncountable amounts of "suspect clips" and videos. And 99.9% of them are trash, people in it dont know what they are talking about and are basically just explaining how they dont know anything.
And theConcept is one of them. Best example is how he is using r_drawothermodels 2 to show when an enemy gets networked. LMAO. That is wrong on such a basic level (modelrendering IN A DEMO has literally nothing to do with when clients recieve information about enemies whereabouts) its painful to watch how people take it seriously.
@@lr0nY just search for project cocaine, if so much money is on the table why would no one pay extra to have the edge whistle the concept isn't the best and some of the things he points out are demo bugs since lossless compresion to demos was added not so long ago,concept is making educated guesses, also remember that foresaken was using a free cheat, A FREE CHEAT, if he was able to cheat with a detected cheat, what's the odds of other people cheating with custom made cheats just search around. If the possibilites are here what's the problem I have almost 1k hours on my main on cheats i coded in a month, just imagine what people coding cheats for 3/4 years can do
@@bartekburmistrz8679 I have seen Ko1ns uploads of project cocaine when they happened, nothing new there. And you seem to think that i assume the proscene to be 100% legit, which is not true. But im also not a conspiracy nut making up my own evidence and lying to the (mostly retarded) community of people who think all of the pros are cheating, whatever they call themselves. I guess /r/vacsucks is a name for them. I am aware of all these things you tell me. But im also of the opinion that many of the things these communities make up is just straight up wrong and clearly retarded.
"infolocks" for example are fucking useless when u have a million more stealthy ways of gaining information on enemies whereabouts. Sound ESP, stealthy UI elements (netgraph, fps counters)even crowdcheating. "Infolocks" happen in legit ways ALL the time, and the vacsucks "community" latches onto those, since after that u only need ur good old trusty confirmation bias to "prove" that anyone is cheating.
idk man sometimes his cheat looks like free public cheat xD
It's easy then to get vac ban in a middle of the game
@@angel3245 obviously not. nobody gets ban anymore. every game i play has at least 6 cheaters
no one will agree to these being hacks or cheats but deep down we all know every greatness comes with a bit of cheats... no one is so skilled or has such amazing gamesense that he can exactly pin point the location of the player behind a solid object... its sad to say the least
I don’t think these are convincing, but I do think Shroud uses aimbots. I wish I could find the clip, but he had a lock on a player where the player jumped by accident and his crosshair was perfectly locked on to the player’s head during the jump. It was on mirage, I’ll never forget it. It was the moment I realized he was cheating. Sad stuff.
His entire twitch saw it too and blew up with “VAC”. It was the most blatant lock I ever saw. He quickly looked at the chat and then never acknowledged it. He was default A site shooting a guy jungle... I’ll never forget it.
i think i remember a clip too where he had hand cam and u can hear a button press and aim snap and no hand movement. sad shit man sad stuff
Why are you using sped up clips ? Wtf
He have game multicheat or he is sponsored by cheating provider, because actions like these on the video are repeated really often...
Not sponsored. He make a shitton of money, way more than any CSGO pro's. He can afford the best cheats in the world for an amount which is relatively similar to the a normal guy paying his monthly internet fee.
@@maragossep3492 it's the biggest joke that you think Shroud is cheating you are as delusional as anti-vaxxers
Maybe he cheated on the pro CSGO scene but probably not on stream, there is no reason for that and multigame hacks do not exist. You clearly have no idea about how hacks are made to say stuff like that.
The best proof that he is good and probably never cheating on stream is the fact he often plays games only him have access to due to partnerships so hacks can't exist yet, and he's always very good on these new games too. Or when he installs a new game while streaming due to the chat who wants him to play it.
Damien Engemann i know much more than you think. Cheating providers developing the whole cheat engine concept so you can use it on a lot of games with the same game engine.
@@Quatuux How long do you think it would take an experienced private cheat developer to decompile a new game & find the offsets..? I'm guessing not long since a few scrubs had an aimbot for Valorant shortly after the beta released - www.reddit.com/r/VACsucks/comments/fwwwhi/for_those_already_praising_valorant_anticheat/
Private cheats can cost $15k-$20k initially, plus a monthly fee, plus a % of any prize money & social media income. If I was shroud's cheat developer, I would have cheats for as many games as possible...because I'm making money off of people watching him play like a god in a new game. PUBG for example...that's how shroud got a big as he did.
Can u watch demo of some legit Player? I really want to know that this things like that isnt showing in legit Player demos it Will be nice contrast and comparison for some of us
Unfortunately, anyone that I use to compare will be dismissed for not being a pro, not having 10k hours, etc...
@@THEc0ncept i have some idea they are a lot of youtubers that have like 8,9 k in the cs go and they are really good at the game Maybe Just Maybe you can finde some u know clips etc and compere to the guy like shroud or other pros :)
@@THEc0ncept How about Guardian? So far I have not seen single sketchy clip of him.
@@Monsicek or sheoud would work as he is not cheating either :)
@@alanrashid4333 ye nice logic pros cheat youtuber dont
if pros cheat on lan, im not calling anyone out but, if they do cheat like that, i can only imagine average faceit game where is only new accounts who rip money from legit premium players and faceit doing nothing, big companies like faceit cheating face off with unregulated service.
In faceit it's normal to evade a clear hacker by not joining the game and taking a ban. Happens quite often but many times somebody else will announce and take a ban so you don't have to. There's probably more subtle hackers as well but at least they don't completely ruin your game with some 100% hs 5 kdr bullshit that the most obvious do. While faceit has some extra anti-cheat measures it's still far from perfect. If you want to see yourself then go play at 4am when it's usually the worst time to play.
they dont cheat on lan
He never had a reaction to a nice shot he made and now I know why
because youre braindead
@@SomeoneJr exactly
Where did your niko anomalies video go??? The clip on cache?
I see you liked my comment... but I mean.. didn't you have one??? I swear I saw something hilariously blatant from him. maybe i'm wrong?
@@cuylshepherdton7437 probably got threatened with legal action
I answered your other comment on "How Accurate is GOTV???" - I don't have a Niko video, I have some clips of him in a few different videos though. Which clip are you talking about?
@@THEc0ncept one where he locks onto people through smoke coming out of B site on Cache. Or did I dream that?
Are people just disliking without watching the video? How can you just disagree with this?
thank you very much for the good content! keep up the good work
is it shrud or shrod ?
This clown name is Shfraud
Haters incoming
Wtf are you saying lol
Not for the hate plz dont hate me but
ruclips.net/video/bekkHeBgsQU/видео.html
Funny thing is that i called him out on live stream when he was playing pubg and i was instantly banned from chat.
I watched a clip where i jumped out of a window and on his way down locked onto a guys head with a 357 magnum and 1 shots the player dead. He has been cheating for a long time now but too many stupid people defend him and call him a goat. Even the doc called him out on it
room temp iq detected
If your room temp is the winter in sebiria then it gets close
fanboy detected, shroud is blatant as fuck.. get your eyes checked
@@muumuumu xD
Real sus, great explanation
2:14 you see as he locked straight to that crack? we call that crack locking
Commenting for support
has this guy been banned yet? the cbble scene alone is a big big laugh and yes i played pro scene at the early stage of go. does he ever show his mouse movements ? i already know, no. the cbbl scene alone with the random on body flicks for no reason made me laugh so hard, this cs scene has become a mere joke that hacking trash like this is able to compete more than 1 game LOL
You could tell Shroud was cheating just through psychology alone. Every time he had an even remotely sus clip he'd always react in his face and say something or chuckle to distract from how sus it was. He had cheater behavior before even taking into account how many ridiculous clips he has.
..of course he is cheating its so obvs. he dont have that skill like legit players
@A Ramadan Show us.
guilty!
Smoked him. 👏👏👏
not sure what mm rank you are but none of these scream blatant cheating. I've played a lot of csgo competitively both in matchmaking and faceit, and all I really see in these clips is good crosshair placement and prefires. You can't make these assumptions that shroud has more info than he lets on without looking into anything else, i.e. info from teammates and the fact that in half of these clips he's prefiring corners he already knows enemies have peeked him from.
That aside, I have created csgo cheats - both for hvh and legit hacking (tho i obv don't cheat on my main, mostly in hvh servers). I'm sure an extremely expensive LAN cheat would cast a ray towards a player's hull once they are no longer dormant to check for visibility before locking onto them. You can even see the momentum in his mouse movement as he clearly overshoots - and to be fair he does play on a fairly high sens, around about ~1200eDPI or thereabout, whereas the average pro is anywhere from 400-900eDPI. If that was a smooth aimlock, there would be no momentum or inertia at all in his movement - it would move onto the player's hull and stick onto it.
edit: it's also funny that you call him out for an aimlock in one of the clips where he's clearly tracking around the wall. I'm pretty sure a multipoint aimbot wouldn't lock onto the lowest pixel of a player's feet (where it's guaranteed to miss) through multiple unpenetrable walls. You can clearly see his crosshair is still snapped to the wall.
The clip where he slightly wallbangs that AWP player through the box is also completely legit lol. Past that box is an extremely common spot for a player to sit. Shroud already has the info where the player is because of them jumping and firing a shot (through the smoke mind you, why haven't you exposed him yet?) at his teammate. In that situation I wouldn't sit around, I'd prefire the exact same spot he did.
All in all, pretty pathetic seeing a low level player calling out a pro for cheating lol.
I almost lost faith in the cs community. Thank you for not being a dumbass
Dude, your just pour water.
ruclips.net/video/3LheYfeC7Ug/видео.html
Try to explain 29:46 and 46:55.
@@rewer7817 29:46 - looks like an acceptable distance to spot small movements. Absolutely no context to the clip anyway (it's in 720p and has fucking awful bitrate for a start), and the player easily could have been looting or jiggling beforehand. By the time shroud was about to scope in their head would have been easily visible. Looks like a distance I'd be able to spot an enemy easily too besides.
46:55 is funny because it's a doctored clip anyway. If you can show me the original VOD maybe I'd believe it :) - but the enemy's animation state changes quite dramatically when you compare it to the supposed 'aimlock' - looks like the guy cut a few frames out expecting nobody to see any difference.
Funny that people are doctoring clips to try and """prove""" a pro is cheating, get over yourselves lol. not everyone better than you is a hacker
@@henryso4 Funny that any clip that even seems mildly sus is suddenly "doctored".
@@StHappyfaces only said one obviously doctored clip where the entire vod including the cam randomly freezes until the crosshair is on an enemy's head was - but sure twist my words.
won't bother replying anymore, keep crying gold nova noobs
that aimbot is so smooooth
almost like its not one
@@warrior6807 except it is lol
Clearly people who have no idea what good aim looks like calling out shroud, someone who doesn't even have some of the best aim in the world
"shroud has aimbot!" - first clip, he dies...
you can see his aimbot edgelock. that's not human.
@@handledright sure...
@THE c0ncept look into Jimster480, he is friends with shroud in real life and his private coder.
How do you know this?
@@THEc0ncept they grew up together/school friends, but be warned im sure they have counter attack measures.
I’m gonna go into discord servers and spam this video everywhere so everyone knows about your work
again shroud?It means shroud is cheater!
Yea shroud has 99999 dollars cheats that can bypass faceit anticheat and esea anticheat
sounds like a good business plan.. help a twitch streamer get big by helping him be "good" and then get a cut from his stream subs and donation..i saw another video 1 year old how he snap onto a target that was behind a wall and shot..
just watch shroud miss awp shot after awp shot on dust 2 double doors in linus tech tips video.
except he was missing shots on low fps 60hz, just the fps difference alone could make it easier to hit those shots
He didn't use cheats in Linus video. Sad even with cheats the other cheaters killed him, and he got kicked out csgo lol.
How bored are you?
@A Ramadan bruh stfu silver
@Double Slayer 😂
Pepelajuandeag 1 fanboy
@@kingeling silver SHUT THE FUCK UP HE PROBABLY DOESNT EVEN WATCH SHROUD JUST LIKE ME I DONT WATCH HIM AND ONLY THING I SAW ARE PREFIRES HIM COULSNT DECIDING WHO TO SHOT ETC NOONE OF WHAT I SAW ARE CHEATS fucking noob
Actually i am shroud fan but no more than u.U r amazing videos making!!!!!!!!!
hes not cheating stop listening to lies and misinformation
@@warrior6807 silvers dude silvers......
@@ognjenpesic7008 yep
@@warrior6807 report for spam and misleading xd
Ognjen Pesic I’ve cheated in cs for 3 years and none of what this guy is saying is true lmao. And wtf is an edge lock. I’ve use the best cheats Available for raging and legit cheating and this guy is clueless
Somehow these cheats work in every game on day one
Some scrubs had an aimbot within a few hours of Valorant beta being launched. How long do you think it takes for an experienced, private cheat developer (or team of developers) to decompile a new game and find the offsets...?
THE c0ncept idk man I’m not a shroud fan but I find it very hard to believe that he has had cheats for every single game for the past however long he has been playing games competitively. I think that he plays these games so much that lucky stuff like this is bound to happen eventually. If he was using cheats these clips would be nonstop when in 99% of his games he is really good but not hitting crazy shots like this.
What convinced me is watching him play halo. A dogsht easy ass game. And he sucks at it. He doesnt do all this crazy mouse movement when he plays that game. Hes just trash at arena fps.
@@john7968 He is a freaking millionair, he doesnt use cheats for normal plebs, he is buying it at bulk, one solution for all.
hahaha jep, fl0m used it on day 1 on shroud's stream in CS2 beta
edit: clips.twitch.tv/FairWimpyOxSuperVinlin-2SzL6cUmx2xBJ7kS - 1st lock on the 12th second onto a guy on A that will come CT-base afterwards. 2nd lock on the 28th second on the same guy. And it's also the way he and shroud reacts to it that makes it obvious that every pro cheats.
At this point everyone will one day give up and start cheating as well... This is fucking shroud for fuck sake...
I wanted you to analyze the latest Chaos EC matches, mainly Chaos vs MIBR
Obvio que estavam de cheat, mas sei porque você tá aqui, porque eles amassaram os seus idolos, que deixa te falar, também já usaram cheat, ESPECIALMENTE O FALLEN.
Are u going to do a vid about chaos?
If my Patrons ask me to. Yes, in my opinion they're cheating...everyone's cheating. The entire scene is riddled with private cheats. You can't compete against aimbots, you have to be perfect
@@THEc0ncept yeah everyone that's better than you is cheating. Check your own shoes they smell like dogshit.
@@THEc0ncept obnoxious and ignorant. Biggest clickbait channel ever.
You dont know anything, in some od the clips he was just preaiming and u said its lock
Can you check LEAF from CHAOS?
If my Patrons add him to the List, then yes
i do this at bot matches with friends, overwatch banned. pros use, no effect. nice.
Valve doesn't want people to know that almost the entire cs go scene is cheating. This would mean a huge amount of money lost and the destruction of a fanbase. How would the cs go community react if s1mple were baned? They won't make it public and are not triying to stop this. If they really wanted to fight against cheats, they would have stoped it long time ago.
You know that these bot matches wont get into overwatch? So you have to cheat in actual valve matchmaking to get banned. You kinda played yourself there buddy.
people agreeing with these videos are bots.
@@sweeeeeeezy dismissing all of it is also kinda stupid. The truth lies somewhere in between.
nah fam.
Well shroud is already out of cs go esport, i was excepting video of choas vs mibr =-/
Shroud blind fans would never believe this anyway..
they don't have to shroud admitted he knows what high level hacks cost and he was right. he also said we all are using them.... but of course he said it in a way that he could laugh off as a joke. we all know there is truth in jest/
the first problem is occurence , you clip only games you need to take proof , the second prob is who are you to make accusation when you don't know pro principe
NO DOUBT
i just watch these because I'm bored and think they're funny to watch
lol ppl are so dumb
I didnt see anything sus here? Ive pulled off more sus things.. does that mean im cheating? no lmao. And before someone calls me a shroud fanboy, no i dont watch shroud but ive watched these "shroud is hacking" videos and like 90% of those videos is nothing suspicious at all whilst those other 10% that does look sus is nothing more than just that. Sus things do happen when you play, dont act like you've never randomly one tapped someone through smoke or a wall.
And whats with this "edge locking" ? 5:03 he didnt lock onto any edge at all?
What rank are you
Silver mate silvers thinking HeY i Am ThE BeST oThErS aRe CHEATERS
It's rank 20 years cs. If you don't know him you didn't really play cs comp.
This is crazy XD. You only got 6 min of clips out of thousands of hours of him playing games. This isnt any "evidence" at all. None of these "infolocks" are useful to shroud in any way. There is no logic here
You think I watched thousands of hours of him playing...? These clips are from a few random games
@@THEc0ncept a few games is still a couple of hours of gameplay while 6 minutes of repeating a couple "infolocks" isnt much if he was really cheating. this small amount of info or "aimlock" would not help shroud enough to get to where he is now. he even dies in some clips while "locking" on people
Everything is situational based..multiple things can happen in one game, & in some games barely anything will happen. There's more than what I showed, these clips are the more sketchy moments. Also, cheats don't keep you from dying...especially when the other people are cheating too
@@THEc0ncept so why would he cheat if it doesnt help him? You're making no sense. If barely anything happens it's because pros are legit and you are just witch hinting for no reason as you can not fathom the fact that pros are just really good at video games without use of external software. Muscle memory is scientific and once you spend all those hours training mouse movement to your aim an aimlock will mess it up.
@@Evan-xs8ts "how can he be cheating if he dies?" classic. can't believe you even responded to him, but i'll bite, too.
"aimlock will mess (my thousands of hours playing and training) up." yes, it does. you can see in the last clip, after killing the first guy, rather than holding the angle, he looks at a "random" part of the wall. he doesn't show the full clip, but shroud then forces the aimbot off the target, which sends his mouse far left and up making his aimbot look even more obvious, which gets him killed. a legit player would just hold the angle or get behind cover to reload/reset, or maybe check CT if they had more info.
next video in recommended : linus tech tips "does higher fps make you a better gamer". In it you see shroud with superhuman reaction and skills on a setup that is not his. So i doubt now...
If the PCs were connected to the internet, it doesn't matter
@@THEc0ncept they werent his pc's, and i doubt that he would download them while he wasnt paying attention, then also turn them off when others play on the same pc minutes later.
5:19 you see whenever he locked on to that pixel? we call that pixel locking
I feel like he knows they are not cheating but content is content
Yea this guy just needs content. Its obvious in his videos he doesnt have any real evidence. If he had some sort of credible information to share then this video wouldn't only have 4k views since it would be getting shared around... but no one is sharing it for obvious reasons lmfao
@@CherryZ there are definitely cheaters in the pro scene. don't be a fool. i'm not sure every single one of them are cheating but there are definitely cheaters. so many have been caught and there is no real interest in catching them. every time one of them gets outed it damages the business. they don't want to find out.
Shroud aka clown streamer is the Lance Armstrong of gaming world. So many proof seeing him cheating but he and his fanboy denies it and people defending him. What a looser, people who defends him is also looser. F*CK YOU PEOPLE !!
So shroud must have this developer on payroll cosidering he plays tons of fps games and is amazing at all of them
obviously, he can afford it easily even if it was 50k a month...
Analyze Chaos team full aim lock’s
Thats bullshit 😂
These are the same people who believe the earth is flat
When noob makes video... lol
Explain me how he could be cheating while decade and not being caught any time in every games he plays
He is just good (and believe me, there are tons of better players)
Even myself when I watch my own match on cs go I have the feeling that i am hacking.
1. 2013- 2016 hacking, when you could cheat for low amount of money, bcs there was not a good AC anywhere (faceit AC was created in 2016 - 2017)
2. For e.g schneider (fcking major winner xD) was using private version of polish famous cheat back then called Organner Framework, which cost was arround 60$ a month: watch?v=aeAMyljvsAQ
3. So shroud in 2013 - 2014 was using simmilar cost cheat that schneider was using ( and was winning major with it LUL). Bcs he was using it, somebody noticed him and thought he is good ( LUL), so he was contracted by some NA organizations, then was standing in complexity, then got a fulltime contract in Cloud9.
4. He was 19 -20 at that time and probably never was earning money before, so his first fulltime job was actually playing counterstrike for some NA organizations.
5. He got his first money and he had to start thinking about how can he still manage to cheat online or even offline.
6. 2016 year was crucial for CS:GO, faceit AC apperead and a lot of "good players" got banned instantly. Not sure but ESEA was working on their AC as well.
7. So shroud had to think about buying cheats, or hiring his private cheat coder, to be sure that he can cheat at these platforms or even at lan.
8. Average salary for playing cs in NA was good enough, for him to be able to do that.
9. 2017, shroud is moved to bench in Cloud9 and started streaming for Cloud 9, cheating on stream in CS:GO got him a lot of viewers, he didn't expect that for sure.
10. After organization saw his succes, they quickly recontracted him as streamer ( he had a contract for another 1 year in Cloud9, so they organization did that bcs they saw a money potentiall in shroud, even if they got like 20% of his stream earning that was still huge a lot of money)
11. Shroud seeing how much money he is earning from stream, he decides to keep cheating on stream, mostly CS:Go back then. Later on he is thinking about playing other games, but he has some problem that he is thinking about.
"What if i play other shooter game without cheats and people will notice im bad and will think i was cheating in CS:GO?"
12. Shroud decides to hire a private cheat coder, just for himself. Shroud is so unsure if he can trust him, that he is paying him 50% of his earnings, just to be sure he won't expose him and that he can trust him.
13. Shroud coder ( let's name him Jerry), started his work with private PUBG cheats, the first game that Shroud was commited after CS:GO.
14. Shroud is starting to play PUBG with Jerry cheats, everyone on his stream are so hyped for his AMAZING SKILL. Everything is going well.
15. 2018, shroud contract with Cloud 9 ended.
16. Shroud is trying to find sponsors just for him self and he's done it.
17. Shroud is keep streaming and streaming, cheating in PUBG like a devil, finally he is earning 3 times more money then he was earning by streaming in Cloud9.
18. He is making contract with Jerry, that Jerry will get 40% of his earning for the next 10 years, if he provides shroud with private cheats for every game that shorud wants.
19. Forgot to mention, that Jerry must be really god at coding, he can't be an average IT student with 0 expirience, he must be one of the best coders that exist on this planet.
20. Years are passing, shroud is still cheating in every game he plays, thanks to Jerrys cheats. He knows Jerry won't expose / betray him, coz of the contract he made with him.
21. Who would batray the guy, that pays you 150.000$ ( at least) a month?
THE END
HAPPY END.
@@IlIlllllIIIIIlllIllIllIllI Damn dude is that really true? How do you know?
@@IlIlllllIIIIIlllIllIllIllI i hope you meant this as a joke, or a bedtime story or something, cuz its about as realistic as such
Can you do iitztimmy?
This is calling pro cheating !
Shroud is soo good he got nerds thinking he aimbots lmao jokes on you . Stop wasting your own time and learn how to get better at the games you want
You know this is defamation right?
It's not defamation if you can provide facts. It's not that he is saying that shroud MIGHT be cheating, he even can explain in detail what is going on and that's a fact. Defamation my ass.
Guys... Really...
Fanboy triggered
This is such a joke lmao